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[0:00] what if you considered right now not
[0:03] wanting to change who you are and how
[0:06] you are no striving to
[0:11] change for me that question is just a
[0:15] melter it's almost like confusing too
[0:17] because we're in this constant push to
[0:21] get
[0:25] [Music]
[0:27] [Applause]
[0:29] better
[0:31] [Music]
[0:39] welcome back everyone to the school of
[0:40] greatness podcast very excited about our
[0:42] guest Danielle aort is in the house good
[0:45] to see you my love how are you doing I'm
[0:46] so great awesome I'm excited for you
[0:48] because you've got a new book out it's
[0:50] called White Hot truth make sure you
[0:53] guys go get this right now it's a game
[0:54] Cher it's going to inspire you it's
[0:56] going to give you a lot of wisdom and
[0:58] Clarity and one of the things I want to
[1:00] talk about that I loved actually is it
[1:02] gives you Clarity but there's also a
[1:05] whole page on here called the paradoxal
[1:08] of wisdom is that what it's called yes
[1:10] the Paradox of wi wisdom of paradoxal
[1:12] right and you talk about how truth and
[1:15] wisdom usually holds opposite points of
[1:18] views yes and so it'll give you Clarity
[1:21] but it's also some confusion right to
[1:23] life because you have these 14 different
[1:26] points uh which I love you know which
[1:29] kind of made me laugh you say like
[1:31] forgive but don't forget trust but do
[1:32] the work get real and be idealistic so
[1:36] these different you know paradoxal
[1:38] truths of wisdom why is this so why
[1:41] can't it just be one way oh it's never
[1:44] one way it's always and both you know
[1:48] wholeness is like inclusive and I think
[1:52] I mean this is just what I found to be
[1:53] true for myself and like the people who
[1:57] I consider Real Deal teachers there's
[2:00] always some
[2:02] contradiction they know you know wisdom
[2:04] knows that there's a time and a place
[2:06] for everything there's a time to be you
[2:08] know a purist and devotional and there's
[2:11] times to let loose and there are times
[2:16] you know wholeness is about being really
[2:19] you know deeply
[2:20] self-respect and centered within
[2:23] yourself and you know having excellent
[2:26] boundaries and then getting off your ass
[2:29] and being of service and feeling
[2:31] connected to everybody yeah yeah whole
[2:34] life is both mhm and it's also messy
[2:38] sometimes so messy so messy so
[2:42] uncertain um never a straight line never
[2:47] black and
[2:48] white um it's never you never change for
[2:51] one reason it's never one in it's never
[2:53] one
[2:54] Instagram right that gets you to change
[2:56] it's like a series of things that
[2:59] creates a Tipping Point Point M yeah
[3:01] it's complex is there a Tipping Point in
[3:03] your life recently uh Tipping Point in
[3:05] my
[3:10] life I
[3:14] feel like it's been this
[3:17] melting yeah this slow burning you know
[3:21] fire and for me things never come in an
[3:25] explosive way like it's never I never
[3:27] feel like ah I had the Breakthrough an
[3:29] aha moment not the AHA it's just a slow
[3:33] grind to figuring it out sometimes it's
[3:37] about feeling just worn the [ __ ] down
[3:39] and that's when the Revelation comes and
[3:43] like just so exhausted you're like okay
[3:45] something has to
[3:46] shift yeah or I get it I'm I'm I'm
[3:49] giving up I'm letting it
[3:51] go uh I'm not a fan of the word
[3:54] surrender but I'm just going to just
[3:57] going to be and allow yeah yes so no
[4:00] lightning bolts for me I used to really
[4:02] want lightning bolts like I used to
[4:04] think it would be so great to have a
[4:05] near death experience you know something
[4:08] that like wouldn't leave me disfigured
[4:09] or super traumatized but just like I
[4:11] wanted yeah I wanted to see the light
[4:14] and have one of those like
[4:16] transcendental things that would be like
[4:19] really transformative and I could maybe
[4:21] get a great book out of it you know and
[4:24] my life is just much more normal and I'm
[4:28] like really okay with with it yeah yeah
[4:31] yeah okay well what's the biggest lesson
[4:33] youve learned in writing this book um CU
[4:35] it's a journey writing a book obviously
[4:38] I'll tell you yes the biggest lesson in
[4:41] writing this book was about being more
[4:43] self-referencing I mean really the the
[4:45] heart of this is about being your own
[4:47] Guru and after I was finished the book I
[4:52] realized that I was still pretty
[4:54] addicted to getting outside input like
[4:58] it was one more psychic reading it was
[5:00] another intuitive something it was like
[5:02] well maybe I need a more specific
[5:04] business coach for this specific issue
[5:07] just like one more Psychotherapy session
[5:10] you know one more yoga session more
[5:13] Retreat yeah and so I have gone on an
[5:18] input fast and it feels like really
[5:20] confessional like I feel like I'm in an
[5:22] a meaning saying you know I'm
[5:25] Danielle and I haven't had a psychic
[5:28] reading for eight months
[5:31] [Music]
[5:33] and yeah
[5:36] just much fewer like spiritual
[5:40] paraphernalia in my life no I'm just not
[5:43] referring to those tools as much it's
[5:45] about me
[5:47] and you know what it's 5050 if you
[5:51] listen to everybody else your chances of
[5:53] playing it off still 50/50 if you listen
[5:57] to yourself still 50/50 but listening to
[6:00] yourself oh God you save a lot of money
[6:03] it's much more efficient and you really
[6:06] build that muscle you know intuition is
[6:08] a muscle and so much in the self-help
[6:10] space is like you know listen to that
[6:12] small inner voice
[6:14] and there's so much noise coming in
[6:18] people can't hear that small inner voice
[6:20] let alone trusting it let alone acting
[6:23] on it so you need to just stop with the
[6:28] input and create some space face and
[6:32] then you can hear
[6:34] yourself and sometimes it'll be right
[6:37] and sometimes it'll lead you somewhere
[6:40] else that you'll think is wrong but
[6:41] that'll turn out right afterwards when
[6:43] you zoom back and look at the whole
[6:45] situation but
[6:48] uh yeah input fasting it's good for you
[6:52] I mean how do you think people should
[6:54] create a structure for themselves to
[6:56] have that space because we're so
[6:59] attached to the phones and you know
[7:01] being with in the digital information
[7:02] world what do you recommend mhm
[7:05] mhm uh to create that space yeah um less
[7:10] seeking of external input as I just said
[7:14] I think you have to have some kind of
[7:15] practice of Stillness in your life yeah
[7:18] and I know everybody would like to avoid
[7:21] it I know we would like to take
[7:22] shortcuts I mean look the first thing I
[7:24] do in the morning when I roll over in
[7:26] bed is I check my phone and then I
[7:28] meditate so I'm not saying like yeah
[7:32] right so I wanted I just want to see who
[7:34] loves
[7:35] me how many people liked meem did I get
[7:38] affirmation for my value on the planet
[7:40] right um and then I tune in so whatever
[7:44] it is for you if it's like if it's your
[7:46] morning run if it's your time on the
[7:48] elliptical if it's 4 minutes if you're
[7:51] really going to give her and sit for you
[7:53] know 20 minutes to an hour like you must
[7:56] have that it's like you know we clean
[7:58] our bodies we clean our system you know
[8:01] that light that you encounter when
[8:03] you're in a meditative state that is a
[8:05] cleaning of the mind and it needs to
[8:08] happen so that you don't get the fog the
[8:13] confusion I mean I think the most basic
[8:16] level so many people can relate to just
[8:19] waking up in the morning and not knowing
[8:22] exactly what the priorities are mhm so
[8:24] many people do that right it's that
[8:27] fogginess and this can go W for years
[8:31] decades for people decades and then they
[8:33] wake up and say what's my purpose what
[8:35] am I doing all this for yeah what's the
[8:37] reason it adds up and you you're on
[8:39] Prozac you're in the wrong job smoking
[8:42] drinking you're in the wrong
[8:43] relationship you don't feel the way you
[8:45] want to feel so regular Stillness I
[8:49] think there's a difference between
[8:50] meditation and contemplation and
[8:54] prayer ideally you're using all of them
[8:56] I meant meditation is
[9:00] it's formulaic you're sitting there's
[9:03] there it has process it's an actual
[9:06] process and you find the way of
[9:08] meditating that works for you
[9:10] contemplation is just like you're
[9:13] actually actively thinking you are in
[9:15] you're very much in your mind thinking
[9:18] through things you are being considerate
[9:20] about what's happening in your life and
[9:22] then prayer is it's a
[9:25] conversation you know and prayer can be
[9:29] for lot of us is just making the request
[9:32] over and over again for me I'm much
[9:35] happier when prayer is about
[9:37] gratitude and I really want to meet my
[9:39] maker
[9:41] halfway uh yeah but those
[9:46] things that's a reason everybody's been
[9:48] talking about it for 2,000 years right
[9:50] Stillness needs to happen it's true now
[9:52] you say the uh the best self-help is
[9:56] self-compassion yeah why is that booah
[9:59] that's that's it that's the whole
[10:03] point my journey has been one of
[10:07] exhaustion and
[10:09] burnout and you seem pretty good right
[10:11] now I'm so good right now I'm so
[10:13] liberated now I am I am I am rested and
[10:18] filled up with a lot of
[10:21] gratitude and there was always lots of
[10:24] gratitude but I'm not striving anymore
[10:27] in the way that I used to strive you
[10:29] mean you just be constantly working and
[10:30] grinding type of thing yeah there was
[10:32] always the career
[10:34] grind and you know be seen hit the list
[10:38] get the followers I mean you know like
[10:39] we're in the same space um but
[10:42] underneath that there was this spiritual
[10:46] striving so you know I grew up
[10:49] Catholic and it's all about press
[10:52] impressing God it's all it is all about
[10:55] the points right and getting access
[10:58] you're in or you're out if you're good
[11:00] or you're bad and I mean that's a very
[11:03] black and white way of putting it but
[11:05] that's not that far off right
[11:09] and I
[11:11] thought I let that go I thought I let
[11:14] that striving go I I I mean I thought I
[11:16] was Freer than I really was but I've
[11:19] really just replaced that dictatorial
[11:23] God with another kind of God who looked
[11:26] really great in black yoga stretchy P
[11:28] pants sure I went to burning man you
[11:32] know it like it's much more Progressive
[11:33] and sexually liberated but I was still
[11:36] really just trying to get these Cosmic
[11:38] brownie points as you know am I am I
[11:41] good enough am I enlightened enough am I
[11:44] are my thoughts clean enough am I have I
[11:46] done enough
[11:48] cleansing and it's exhausting and
[11:51] expensive and you know I was looking at
[11:53] my day planner it's like there you know
[11:57] I there's a channeling appointment and
[11:58] there's a yoga treat and I got to go get
[12:00] my [ __ ] protein powder we're over
[12:03] obsessed with protein and then there's a
[12:05] therapy session and then maybe you know
[12:08] and what if what if I just let
[12:11] go just for a moment what if I even just
[12:14] considered letting go we'll just ask
[12:16] everybody listening right now what if
[12:18] where do I look what if you considered
[12:21] right now not wanting to change who you
[12:24] are and how you are no striving to
[12:28] change
[12:31] for me that question is just a melter
[12:35] it's almost like confusing too because
[12:37] we're in this constant push to get
[12:41] better mhm and when I started to let
[12:43] that go because that does not happen in
[12:45] a lightning bolt because that is so
[12:47] deeply ingrained because I'm actually
[12:49] living a really normal life yeah
[12:54] um there was more
[12:57] spaciousness and I became much more
[13:01] friendly with myself when you let go of
[13:04] striving when I let go of the striving
[13:06] but is that striving to achieve or
[13:08] striving to become a better human being
[13:11] both both I'm not broken MH I'm not
[13:16] flawed I'm
[13:18] not um I don't need to be fixed I need
[13:22] to be celebrated I need to be honored I
[13:26] deserve to be loved and that has to
[13:28] start with me
[13:30] and so all of those moments where I'm
[13:32] just like you should have said something
[13:35] different you should have worked longer
[13:37] you should have worked harder you should
[13:38] have been more loving you should this is
[13:40] a big one es this is a big one
[13:43] especially for women you should be over
[13:45] it by now I mean those are really harsh
[13:48] things that we would never say to our
[13:51] best friend you sit with your friend
[13:54] again and again and again and you listen
[13:56] to them go on about the chump when
[13:57] you're like I think you need to dump the
[13:59] gy but you listen and so you know the
[14:02] medicine really happens when we feel
[14:05] like we're at our worst when we are
[14:07] our Biggest Loser selves and you
[14:13] say you trying your best of course
[14:16] you're in pain of
[14:18] course you're still hurt of course and
[14:23] then there's some
[14:26] space some solutions start coming in
[14:29] yeah you stand up a little straighter
[14:31] you have just succeeded at being that
[14:34] loving person that you've been going to
[14:35] all those damn workshops about cuz you
[14:38] loved yourself when you thought you were
[14:40] a loser mhm yeah and it makes you so
[14:44] much
[14:44] more that self-compassion makes you so
[14:47] much
[14:48] more flexible and compassionate for what
[14:51] other people are going through and you
[14:54] become
[14:56] less of a Preacher I mean I became less
[14:59] less of a motivational speaker just like
[15:02] listen I this is what I've been throughh
[15:05] everybody's where they're
[15:09] at you are
[15:11] pre-qualified just because you showed up
[15:14] yeah
[15:16] H do you feel like you uh
[15:19] um talking about growth do you feel like
[15:23] we should be consistently trying to grow
[15:25] or just stay where we're at oh I don't
[15:28] think that we should stay where we're at
[15:31] I mean the desire is still there to I
[15:35] mean I'm a Seeker I am hungry I want the
[15:38] answers I am driven to what are the
[15:41] answers you're looking for oh I want to
[15:43] know how creation happens I want to know
[15:46] how colors are made in the universe I
[15:48] want to know our relationship to you
[15:51] know other species on this planet into
[15:54] other dimensions I want to know what our
[15:56] true nature is I want to know where Joy
[15:58] comes from from I Want to Know What Love
[16:00] really is like what is the science of
[16:03] love what's the esoteric
[16:05] explanation
[16:07] why why is the planet a mess I want to
[16:12] know where hope comes from you know
[16:14] where does Hope meet being realistic I
[16:18] want to know if there's such a thing as
[16:19] Destiny I don't think there is um I want
[16:23] to know the difference between hope and
[16:25] optimism I want to know where ideas come
[16:27] from are the ideas coming from within me
[16:30] you know are things pre pre-ordained can
[16:33] we really tell the future like clearly I
[16:36] have some questions you know and and I
[16:40] have to be of service I just um I'm in a
[16:45] lot of Agony about where the world is at
[16:49] I struggle a lot with
[16:52] staying hopeful mhm um some days I just
[16:57] think the [ __ ] is going to go down
[17:01] and we are all going down with it what
[17:03] do you think is the main cause of
[17:08] that I think there's an ignorance
[17:13] about our true
[17:15] power I think that all darkness comes
[17:18] from not facing your soul I
[17:22] think when you are not
[17:24] facing Your Soul Your Truth your full
[17:28] potential IAL your God
[17:31] nature Illusions start to
[17:34] happen and you feel
[17:37] disconnected and when you are
[17:38] disconnected you can very quickly turn
[17:40] into an [ __ ] MH you don't recycle you
[17:44] don't include other people you judge you
[17:47] judge it is the seed of racism and
[17:50] bigotry and
[17:52] misogyny that's what I think the problem
[17:54] is it is uh the deepest darkest kind of
[17:58] disc connection from our light from our
[18:02] Beauty
[18:06] and yeah being connected to use you know
[18:09] your word being connected with your
[18:13] greatness it makes you really fierce in
[18:15] some ways it's that drive to serve and
[18:19] it also makes you very
[18:21] soft and I'm really starting to get
[18:26] that growth is a softening H yeah not a
[18:31] hardening
[18:34] nope I'm curious I was going to go down
[18:36] a different path
[18:37] there I know where you're going um let's
[18:41] talk about beliefs because you said you
[18:43] grew up Catholic and you grew up with
[18:45] certain beliefs I'm assuming right with
[18:47] religion from parents from friends yeah
[18:50] uh and I'm assuming that you have
[18:52] certain beliefs now that are different
[18:53] from your first 20 years of life right
[18:55] oh yeah yeah yeah now why and how do we
[19:00] choose our beliefs and how often is it
[19:03] okay to change them well you can change
[19:05] your beliefs daily it might drive you
[19:06] crazy but like it's up to you this is a
[19:08] democracy right um I think we choose
[19:12] certain beliefs and this this is a
[19:14] really fantastic question because of
[19:18] comfort I think that's the driving
[19:20] reason we want to know that if we are
[19:23] good we will be rewarded MH we want to
[19:27] believe that all of this is going to pay
[19:29] off
[19:31] and we all have
[19:34] different limits on on the pay off right
[19:37] like some of us believe that if we are
[19:39] good today it will pay off tomorrow if
[19:43] we are good in this lifetime we will get
[19:46] the rewards in the afterlife you know
[19:48] some of us believe if we do what we feel
[19:51] is right our version of goodness
[19:55] today it'll pay off some time in the
[19:57] grand scheme of things the reward might
[20:01] not come in this
[20:02] lifetime uh but yeah I think it's all
[20:06] about
[20:10] Comfort how often do you change yours
[20:13] well it depends on the belief right it's
[20:15] a it's a slow it's a slow game I mean
[20:18] I'm in this for the long game I'm in
[20:20] this for many
[20:23] lifetimes um I think big cultural change
[20:27] takes Generations yeah
[20:29] and it actually makes me so much more
[20:31] effective as an activist as someone with
[20:34] a lot of opinions that I share publicly
[20:38] to to to see it that way I used to be in
[20:42] such a rush and it actually creates this
[20:44] kind of zealousness and this anxiety and
[20:47] you really feel like you're never
[20:49] getting ahead and the irony for me at
[20:51] least with just having this bigger
[20:53] perspective is I can see progress more
[20:56] now I'm so much more patient and
[21:00] loving and oh my God my opinions are
[21:04] sharper than ever I am
[21:06] more I just I have more things to say
[21:10] and I want to be really persistent and
[21:13] loud about it
[21:15] really yeah it's time I mean we we used
[21:19] to think it's time I'm telling you now
[21:21] it is really time to stand up on your
[21:24] stage whatever your stage is your stage
[21:26] might be your kitchen table and voicing
[21:29] your opinions with your
[21:31] family nowadays everybody is a
[21:33] broadcaster we are we are the media
[21:38] and you know if you're going to be as
[21:41] great and powerful as we all are
[21:44] aspiring to be with all of our self-help
[21:47] it really starts with putting your
[21:48] beliefs out there
[21:50] publicly yeah no more hiding it's
[21:54] powerful yeah
[21:56] yeah what about forgiveness
[21:59] how do you forgive when you see so many
[22:01] things that you don't enjoy or
[22:03] appreciate or think are wrong in the
[22:04] world yeah when you say the world's a
[22:06] mess how do you forgive certain things
[22:09] people
[22:12] experiences and how often do you
[22:14] forgive I think there might be some
[22:18] things that some of us come across in a
[22:21] lifetime that are unforgivable really
[22:24] yeah and it doesn't mean you won't
[22:26] forgive them eventually in the next
[22:28] Dimension or the next life MH it might
[22:31] be your lesson your karma your Dharma to
[22:35] just hold on to that
[22:37] so some of us just need to be o okay
[22:40] with that I do believe that forgiveness
[22:44] is like the heightened way I feel like
[22:48] it is the aspiration it is forgiveness
[22:49] is the goal
[22:53] and the first step to forgiving is to
[22:57] admit that you don't want to forgive I
[22:59] mean who wants to forgive I read that in
[23:01] here right like you get screwed over and
[23:04] you're frustrated you're pissed yeah
[23:06] because you want to be right of course
[23:08] you want to be right well the ego gets
[23:10] in the way and I also think there is
[23:12] this really healthy Clarity of like this
[23:15] is right and this is wrong this is
[23:17] morality and this is immorality this is
[23:19] how I want to be treated in my life and
[23:21] this is how you treated me and it's not
[23:24] on like there is some like
[23:26] self-certainty about that
[23:28] right
[23:30] um but yeah you know what this goes back
[23:33] to the self-compassion as self-help just
[23:36] admit I don't want to
[23:37] forgive I'm going to just just let me be
[23:40] the douche for a minute right right and
[23:43] then Inc comes that softening and then
[23:45] the next you know so-called step is to
[23:48] just have the desire to
[23:51] forgive and you don't have to plan it
[23:53] out you don't need to think well you
[23:56] know if I forgive them I have to
[23:59] reinvite them to my wedding right you
[24:00] don't have to you don't have to not
[24:02] necessar you don't have to be doing
[24:04] lunch just have the desire it will work
[24:07] its way through you you will write a new
[24:10] story with that
[24:12] person and my experience has
[24:16] been you know we relate to people on a
[24:18] personality
[24:20] level you have your persona and you know
[24:24] you wear a soul named
[24:25] Lewis and you got your stuff you know
[24:30] and you may or may not change so I have
[24:33] to relate to you in that way so I may
[24:36] put up very clear boundaries with you
[24:38] because stuff meaning like stuff that
[24:39] you may not appreciate or stuff that's
[24:40] messy like say you know you done me
[24:42] wrong forgiving doesn't mean I need to
[24:45] give you a chance to like do me right so
[24:47] to speak um but I can forgive your soul
[24:51] and I can do the multi-dimensional work
[24:55] to be like we're all
[24:57] learning
[24:59] I totally get that on some level I am
[25:02] one we're all in this together and I'll
[25:05] work from that place but on the dayto
[25:08] day we're just going to we're going to
[25:11] part ways right right right yeah and you
[25:14] know what's the difference between
[25:16] judgment and discernment you have a
[25:18] great little quote that I read in the
[25:20] end about this but once you feel done
[25:24] wrong by someone how do you not go to
[25:26] place of judgment yeah on that person
[25:29] and say this is who that person is or
[25:31] talking bad about that person you
[25:32] because I've done that in the past where
[25:34] I like someone did me wrong and I'm just
[25:35] like badmouthing them right because I'm
[25:38] just pissed and I catch myself and I'm
[25:40] like all right is this doing me any good
[25:42] it's just hurting me more by talking
[25:44] negative about someone else so how do
[25:46] you go from a place of not being
[25:47] frustrated or judgmental on someone or
[25:51] situation and just being more Discerning
[25:52] and letting it
[25:54] go well I have two answers to that I
[25:57] mean one one point is
[26:00] that I think you bring up a really good
[26:03] part there about is Judgment hurting you
[26:06] is you talking [ __ ] about other people
[26:09] self-destructive I think it feels good
[26:10] in the moment but then at the end of the
[26:12] day I think it's h well it's like a hit
[26:14] right yeah H it's like good heavy
[26:16] nicotine smoke person yeah of course we
[26:20] we all do that and I think that piercing
[26:24] judgment that [ __ ] talk is damaging
[26:27] actually that's really hard not to do uh
[26:30] but if you keep it up it turns into it's
[26:32] poison for yourself and you know you
[26:34] know what's right and wrong and is
[26:37] better to keep it clean but you need to
[26:38] have your moments you know and your Your
[26:40] Inner Circle uh you mean you need to be
[26:43] able to share with your close friends is
[26:44] what you're saying share with your close
[26:45] let it out if you need to yeah yeah uh
[26:49] judgment is a
[26:51] [ __ ] judgment is
[26:54] narrow-minded it's
[26:56] poisonous it's a judgment is a very
[26:59] small
[27:00] thinker uh judgment is ruled by
[27:04] fear um judgment is hyper
[27:08] protective it's very survival
[27:11] based it's uh it's like hanging out at
[27:15] this Neanderthal level
[27:18] discernment is a higher
[27:21] perspective it really kind of sits at
[27:23] the center and it can see right and
[27:24] wrong it's got a 360 degree view
[27:28] it's much more
[27:30] flexible um it's rooted in service it
[27:34] wants Justice it wants to restore order
[27:37] for the right reasons right
[27:40] and you've got to be Discerning if
[27:44] you're really going to tap your power
[27:46] you've got to be Discerning if you're
[27:48] really going to be a creative with a
[27:51] Capital C you need to know the
[27:53] difference between ethical and unethical
[27:56] between what feels good good and what
[27:59] feels offensive to you and you know
[28:02] there's been some times where I've
[28:04] gotten some push back for sharing my
[28:07] opinions and it's that new age chick
[28:10] push back and I get it because I am a
[28:13] new age chick but it's like that's a
[28:17] little judgmental Danielle and um you
[28:20] know especially if you are a female
[28:23] speaking out against another female's
[28:26] Behavior which I very rarely do but
[28:29] there are times to do that to say this
[28:32] is not moving anybody forward especially
[28:35] feminism right and yeah I get that well
[28:39] that's not being very spiritual well
[28:41] actually it's not very spiritual of you
[28:42] to tell me I'm not being very spiritual
[28:44] there's lots of judgment here um but you
[28:47] need to voice what is right and what is
[28:50] wrong for you and that is how you create
[28:54] change we cannot move forward if we say
[28:57] this is broken mhm yeah we need to yeah
[29:01] spot it how important is it to
[29:04] understand one's ego when it comes to
[29:05] spiritual growth oh you know the
[29:08] ego I love my ego yeah I I mean of
[29:13] course I do right because that's what
[29:14] the ego does the ego loves itself yeah
[29:17] that was a double ont um the ego is so
[29:21] misunderstood I mean it's I put it in
[29:22] the category of the word
[29:26] love forgive it's just
[29:29] really
[29:31] complicated you have to have an ego to
[29:33] move through the world you you do it is
[29:36] a in some cases it's a really healthy
[29:40] defense
[29:41] mechanism the ego is so related to
[29:45] persona it's like you have a brand that
[29:48] is you know closely part of your spirit
[29:50] like you're on target right I have
[29:52] become the so-called brand which still
[29:55] kind of makes me laugh but that's ego
[29:58] and that's part of being effective in a
[30:00] world I in the world I need to package
[30:03] myself in a way that feels true for me
[30:06] so that I can find my tribe essentially
[30:10] and be of service share your message and
[30:12] get it out there yeah um but ego is like
[30:15] sugar just a little bit goes a long way
[30:19] I think we could operate on the 8020 RO
[30:23] with the ego 20% Persona
[30:26] 80% truth and
[30:29] Essence and when we get carried away we
[30:33] get with the ego further and further
[30:35] away from our truth in our soul more
[30:39] narcissistic more self you know
[30:41] unhealthy version of self centered
[30:44] really
[30:45] disconnected yeah is there anywhere you
[30:47] feel disconnected anywhere that I feel
[30:51] disconnected there's some people I feel
[30:54] disconnected from sometimes like I just
[30:56] did I just instead of speaking
[30:59] gig and I have a what I do is I walk the
[31:03] room before my gig and of course I can't
[31:08] be Incognito I come out and people are
[31:10] just like oh hi what are you doing out
[31:13] from behind stage I'm just like I just
[31:15] want to be with my people and I I
[31:19] recently did a gig and I walked down I
[31:20] was
[31:21] like mostly dudes MH 30
[31:25] something business
[31:28] they want to know how to rock their
[31:29] Facebook following and I'm just like
[31:32] [ __ ] I don't know how this is going to
[31:35] go because I'm going to be up there
[31:38] talking about facing your soul and what
[31:42] conscious business really is and I don't
[31:44] care if you're going public do not give
[31:47] a [ __ ] anymore I care what you are doing
[31:50] for the
[31:51] public and I had to Pivot pretty
[31:55] quick and I knew that I was not going to
[31:59] hit it with the majority of that
[32:02] audience but I knew I was going to hit
[32:04] it really deep with some people in the
[32:07] audience and my my calling in that
[32:12] moment like
[32:13] my Mo my what I had to rise to was to be
[32:19] myself
[32:22] anyway and I don't know that I did it I
[32:25] gave myself a B I mean apparently I was
[32:26] like an a
[32:28] in that gig but I felt pretty
[32:31] disconnected from from that group and
[32:34] I'm just never [ __ ] again you know
[32:36] I'm only going to speak to the
[32:38] choir the that get it the ones that get
[32:40] it and I have that struggle I mean that
[32:42] is a very specific professional struggle
[32:45] for me do I train the trainers teach the
[32:47] teachers do I just like hang with the
[32:49] tribe man you know um or do I push
[32:52] myself and my current answer is um I go
[32:57] where the resonance is MH go where the
[32:59] resonance is because if I'm standing on
[33:02] stage or writing or whatever it is and
[33:05] I'm trying to convert you no listen it's
[33:08] highly inefficient thing to do with my
[33:10] energy and I don't feel liberated and I
[33:12] don't feel super turned on I yeah I want
[33:16] to
[33:17] be I want to be where the light is the
[33:20] light that I recognize yeah how can
[33:23] someone create a wellness support system
[33:25] oh well you got to text your girlfriend
[33:27] obsessively every
[33:29] day girls already do that here yeah yeah
[33:32] it's a religion you know I see Jen's
[33:34] phone just constantly texting her
[33:35] girlfriends yeah we I actually can't
[33:37] speak publicly about it but yeah
[33:40] okay
[33:41] um it's a mix of things so you know my
[33:44] observation in being in the wellness
[33:47] space is that we get on this path
[33:50] of
[33:53] Purity and cleansing you talk about
[33:56] cleansing a lot oh it's like cleansing
[33:58] and it's like I'm only going to see my
[33:59] natural path and I'm going to meditate
[34:02] on you know where the stuck energy is in
[34:06] my body and all those things need to
[34:08] happen I mean all of that you know
[34:12] Eastern basically the Eastern holistic
[34:14] approach needs to infiltrate the Western
[34:17] dysfunctional
[34:18] approach
[34:20] but those of us who have been on that
[34:23] you know quote unquote holistic path we
[34:25] need to lighten up on the way to
[34:28] Enlightenment with this because you know
[34:30] I've been like coughing up along with a
[34:32] friend she's like you need to get to a
[34:34] doctor you need antibiotics and I was
[34:37] like oh I was just like going to bring
[34:39] down more light and take some
[34:41] mechona and I think you know everybody's
[34:46] everybody's sorry everybody's body
[34:49] is a complex system you are more complex
[34:54] than any software Hardware program and
[34:57] you need a
[35:00] multi-dimensional multi-prong approach
[35:03] to your healing yeah so you might need a
[35:06] shaman and you might need
[35:08] chemotherapy and you may need green
[35:11] juice and every once in a
[35:12] while you know you maybe you got to do
[35:16] some
[35:16] iasa you have to piece it together
[35:19] yourself without judgment as to what
[35:23] works for you and let's just put all
[35:26] that
[35:29] wholeness in a
[35:30] bubble and I also want to say you know
[35:32] we are a culture who is addicted to
[35:37] anti-depressants and prescriptions that
[35:39] come from people who don't really know
[35:41] us who don't take the time to test us
[35:43] properly ask us about our personal
[35:47] emotional
[35:48] histories um I mean there's so much
[35:50] addiction and blindness happening in the
[35:52] wellness
[35:53] space so and there's not one pill you
[35:56] know fits all no there
[35:59] isn't there isn't one spiritual
[36:02] prescription there isn't one medical
[36:04] prescription you have to kind of quilt
[36:06] together your program
[36:08] and it takes more time it takes more
[36:12] patience it takes more courage to do
[36:16] that because you don't just have your
[36:18] 15minute appointment you got to do your
[36:21] research
[36:23] yeah what do you want people to know
[36:25] about white hot truth
[36:28] uh and why should they get it white hot
[36:30] truth and why should get besides the
[36:31] fact that I love input uh and who's it
[36:35] for
[36:37] specifically that's a good question it's
[36:39] for anybody who identifies as being a
[36:42] Seeker it's for anybody
[36:46] who listens to all of our inspirational
[36:50] motivational podcast because they want
[36:52] to be better it's for anybody who ever
[36:54] wanted to escape their Church whatever
[36:58] that church is it's for anybody who
[37:03] is in the selfhelp space and still
[37:06] feeling like it's not quite right for
[37:10] them like there's this question around
[37:12] boundaries it's for anybody who is
[37:15] tired of a point system around going to
[37:19] yoga um it's for anybody who thinks
[37:22] their goals might be just a little bit
[37:24] [ __ ] up right
[37:26] now yeah and what do I want people to
[37:29] know about
[37:31] it
[37:35] uh it really comes from the heart this
[37:39] is my I could tell
[37:41] fiercest most tender offering to date
[37:46] it's very powerful yeah yeah I could
[37:47] tell reading it you know what I could
[37:49] tell what you know there's some stuff if
[37:51] I'm just being honest here since this is
[37:53] the white hot truth there's some stuff
[37:56] from the past when I read
[37:58] and I'm sure with me as well but some
[38:00] stuff that you've written in the past
[38:01] but I felt like sometimes it felt forced
[38:03] to me it didn't feel fully who you were
[38:07] it felt like what you said a little
[38:08] preachy sometimes M and this feels the
[38:10] most authentic I've ever seen the type
[38:13] of work you've done it feels like yes I
[38:15] was like yes yes yes and that's all you
[38:17] I can feel it so that's what I really
[38:19] love about it it feels like something
[38:21] you don't want to put down it's very
[38:23] powerful thank you as opposed to like uh
[38:25] she preachy or she this or oh well I'm
[38:27] still just as preachy yeah but it's
[38:29] authentic I think you know in the past
[38:32] there was this anger and this
[38:36] pointedness and this kind
[38:38] of you know that edge yes I really
[38:42] wanted you to [ __ ] hear what I had to
[38:44] say yes you still want be able to hear
[38:46] but just a softer Edge yeah now I like
[38:48] I'm just not as
[38:50] attached and there's not a right and
[38:52] wrong yeah and that is from a place of
[38:57] self-respect and you know deeper
[39:01] self-love I'm also I'm divorced now and
[39:05] I was in a long-term relationship where
[39:07] there was that constant push and pull
[39:10] and that really affected my creative
[39:12] output I mean when you're in when you're
[39:14] swimming
[39:15] in um when you're swimming in Conflict
[39:19] whether it's romantic or professional or
[39:22] creative it will seep into your whole
[39:25] life and so part of my path of
[39:27] Liberation was like cleaning all of that
[39:29] up really reclaiming my body my
[39:33] sensibilities my
[39:35] beliefs
[39:37] and it's good it's whole yeah it is it's
[39:40] a great book yeah
[39:42] um few questions I want to ask you left
[39:45] if you had an unlimited amount of money
[39:49] yeah just given to you that you could
[39:50] use to solve One Challenge in the world
[39:53] and you wouldn't have any money left but
[39:54] it would solve that challenge yeah or
[39:57] issue or concern
[39:59] or cancer what would you want to solve I
[40:03] love questions like these yeah because
[40:05] this is an impossible question love it
[40:08] uh one one and it was solved
[40:14] forever I don't know if it would solve
[40:16] anything forever but I would like this
[40:18] to go on forever it would have to do
[40:21] with mindfulness and
[40:22] children I think if you can teach kids
[40:25] to be self-reflective to know that they
[40:28] have control or a lot of control over
[40:31] their nervous system if you can teach
[40:33] them about their innate power and mental
[40:36] Clarity and
[40:38] Beauty boom you have connectivity you
[40:42] were then then you know what you you
[40:43] grow
[40:44] environmentalists you grow activists you
[40:47] grow loving beings Progressive humans
[40:51] who are taking all
[40:53] solutions um all problems into their
[40:56] their own hands I think that's good and
[40:57] there's I see more and more videos
[40:59] online of like classrooms doing this and
[41:01] like detention doing meditation and I'm
[41:04] like that's powerful yeah were you in
[41:06] detention a lot when you were a kid just
[41:08] a few times not too many times I cheated
[41:10] all the time but I never got caught yeah
[41:13] I would cheat on like quizzes and tests
[41:14] and homework because that was the only
[41:16] way I could get through school yeah
[41:18] because it just I couldn't figure it out
[41:20] yeah so it's like my survive mechanism
[41:22] survival mechanism yeah but I only got
[41:23] caught like a couple times and I went to
[41:26] yeah like detention once or twice and I
[41:28] I remember having Saturday detention
[41:30] which is the worst the worst oh yeah you
[41:33] have to be in school essentially all day
[41:35] Saturday yeah it's the worst feeling
[41:37] ever and you just sit in a room with
[41:39] like 30 other kids who are in detention
[41:40] as well for like Saturday detention or
[41:42] something no good you sit around do
[41:44] nothing there's just someone watching
[41:45] you and you just have to like work on
[41:46] homework or something but you can't
[41:48] speak you can't you just sit at your
[41:49] desk for eight hours misery MH I never
[41:52] wanted to get do that again so um I
[41:55] learned how to cheat efficient ly yeah
[41:58] without getting caught or otherwise I
[42:00] would just get an F if I knew I was
[42:01] getting caught so unfortunately that's
[42:03] how I had to deal with it but um well I
[42:07] like that answer it's a good answer I
[42:08] think it's
[42:09] powerful if you had to I don't know if I
[42:12] asked you this last time you were on I
[42:13] think two years ago before we had this
[42:15] whole setup and before we had
[42:17] advancement Swanky paneling right yeah
[42:19] so if you had
[42:21] to get a tattoo on your forehead for
[42:25] life I already have a lot of tattoos
[42:27] that I wish I didn't have really yeah
[42:29] what's the one that you're glad you do
[42:30] have oh well I'm down I'm down with my
[42:34] arm tattoos are Co so the butterfly the
[42:38] story here is that it's not about
[42:41] metamorphosis it that I read that in
[42:46] Native Indian American
[42:50] practice the Warriors would paint the
[42:52] butterfly on their Shield because they
[42:55] thought that to come out in a world
[42:57] where you did know what was on the other
[42:58] side was the most courageous act wow so
[43:00] I was like that's hot and then my circle
[43:04] which I just love artistically CU a
[43:06] circle is very hard to tattoo like I
[43:08] went to Bob and and Bob was like so how
[43:11] many people said they wouldn't do this
[43:13] tattoo and I was like um I just called
[43:15] you yeah right and it's a reference it's
[43:19] a Buddhist reference to that you know
[43:21] everything is empty but everything is
[43:24] form at the same time and then it's also
[43:27] my reference which is
[43:30] like I'm
[43:32] open but I have boundaries but you're
[43:34] closed [ __ ] it's like the wisdom
[43:36] of paradox right that's right I'm whole
[43:39] but I'm empty I'm open but I'm closed I
[43:41] am love and I have standards right
[43:44] exactly I like that um okay well if if
[43:47] you had to put a tattoo on your forehead
[43:49] that was reverse so every time you
[43:51] looked in the mirror only you could see
[43:54] it I was going to say you got this but
[43:57] no
[43:58] um
[44:02] uh this is there well listen my design
[44:04] sensibility is very strong so I would
[44:07] just have a beautiful Bindy dot right
[44:10] there and oh it has to say something
[44:12] sorry I'm really I'm not following the
[44:14] directions phrase or word
[44:19] um you are here you are here there you
[44:23] go okay um
[44:28] I don't know if I asked you this last
[44:29] time this is called the three truths
[44:31] okay I got a lot of truths so I can give
[44:33] you well you got the truth bombs yeah so
[44:35] this is the three truths you've written
[44:37] many truths every day there's truth
[44:40] bombs on your Instagram your website
[44:42] right the white hot truth you know
[44:45] everything about you is truth and this
[44:47] is the final day for you many years from
[44:49] now as long as you want to live you live
[44:51] as long as you want to I'm going for 111
[44:53] by the way I like it it's a good number
[44:55] yep you create cre everything you want
[44:57] yeah every dream comes true everything
[45:00] you've ever wanted for yourself for the
[45:02] world and then it's the last day and for
[45:05] whatever reason every book and video and
[45:08] thing you've put out there truth bomb
[45:09] has been erased for whatever reason it's
[45:12] gone I'm okay with that I don't need to
[45:13] leave a legacy exactly but you do have a
[45:16] piece of paper and a pen and you get to
[45:18] write three final truths this is all the
[45:21] world remembers you bu are these three
[45:23] things kind of your three truths your
[45:24] lessons of Life whatever you want say
[45:27] yeah what would you write down I loved
[45:30] you yeah I
[45:33] loved that's it one truth no it's I I
[45:38] loved loved you okay yeah I showed up
[45:42] with my heart yeah there you go I like
[45:45] that I want to acknowledge you for a
[45:47] moment Danielle you're great at
[45:49] acknowledging thank you people need to
[45:51] meet Lewis just so you can get the
[45:53] acknowledgement
[45:54] moment yeah well I want to acknowledge
[45:57] you
[45:58] for your growth and your service to so
[46:02] many people I think it takes a lot of
[46:03] courage to speak your mind and your
[46:06] truth because you do get attacked from
[46:09] time to time and it comes up with
[46:10] different frustrations from time to time
[46:12] from people so you putting your voice
[46:15] out there for women especially but for
[46:18] men as well is such a profound thing to
[46:20] show them what's possible for their
[46:22] lives so I'm very grateful for your
[46:24] Truth for your courage for your love to
[46:26] the world and for your constant growth
[46:28] to create products like white hot truth
[46:33] so thank you for all you do yes do my
[46:35] best brother yes yes um make sure you
[46:38] guys get the book White Hot
[46:41] truth Clarity for keeping it real on
[46:43] your spiritual path from one Seeker to
[46:45] another by Daniel aort it's amazing I
[46:48] recommend it it's beautiful it'll keep
[46:51] you inspired it'll give you a lot of
[46:52] great insights and tips um where can
[46:55] where can we connect with you online oh
[46:57] darling you know I'm everywhere
[46:58] Instagram right now is the Center of My
[47:00] Universe why is it for everyone for me
[47:02] too I'm really loving it because a
[47:03] Picture Tells C thousand words thousand
[47:07] yeah okay so Danielle laort on Instagram
[47:10] yeah and Danielle Le port.com
[47:12] and we're doing this beautiful book club
[47:15] I've just started talking about it this
[47:17] week and like you don't need the book
[47:19] it's just this Global conversation about
[47:21] what matters to you and it's based on
[47:25] every chapter you we're going to talk
[47:27] about forgiveness and boundaries versus
[47:30] barriers and your tribe and yeah I just
[47:33] want people to get together and have
[47:35] great great conversations about
[47:38] meaningfulness that's cool yeah very
[47:40] cool I've asked you your definition of
[47:42] greatness before so this is going to be
[47:45] a different question and this will be
[47:47] the final question thank you yes I like
[47:49] God don't ask me about greatness again
[47:52] so this will be your final question um
[47:55] imagine that this microphone is
[47:57] connected to 8 billion people in the
[47:59] world right now I think there's 8
[48:01] billion people right how many people are
[48:02] well yeah Lads of last night is 7.5
[48:05] billion really yeah okay 7.5 billion
[48:08] plus all the newborn babies and there's
[48:11] headsets connected to the babies in the
[48:12] bellies everywhere your point is
[48:15] everybody's going to hear this every
[48:17] listening right now yes okay right now
[48:19] they're listening and you have 60
[48:21] seconds or less to share a message to
[48:25] the world mhm and they will all hear it
[48:28] no pressure thanks no pressure what
[48:30] would you
[48:31] say daniel.com
[48:34] um PL yes check it out
[48:41] now I would
[48:46] say truth light
[48:51] Faith
[48:53] love
[48:55] joy
[48:56] that's it you just need the ideas you
[48:59] don't need the answers you can't fit it
[49:03] into a sentence with a
[49:06] period yeah just from my heart to 7.5
[49:10] billion
[49:13] people just that energy yeah awesome
[49:17] Danielle thank you so much appreciate it
[49:19] thank you you're amazing
[49:25] always