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Why Awareness Isn't a State to Reach in Meditation

Bentinho Massaro
Bentinho Massaro
Aug 20, 2010
8 min read
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There is a peace, Bentinho Massaro insists, that is already present inside every experience. It does not wait at the end of a practice or sit behind a door marked silence. In this 14-minute video, which reads less like a lecture than a sustained act of pointing, he takes aim at what he calls a myth at the center of spiritual seeking: the belief that awareness is a special state you must train yourself into through quiet, equanimity, or the right kind of stillness. His case is that awareness is not an experience at all. It is the knowing in which every experience appears, including the seeking itself, and so chasing it as a destination only rebuilds the split it promised to heal.

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Why do seekers keep chasing a state of peace?

Picture a meditator on a cushion at dawn, eyes half closed, checking the quality of the quiet the way a guitarist checks a tuning. Is the mind settled enough yet? Is this the silence? Is this the awakening? That scene is the one Massaro keeps returning to, because it describes the trap so precisely. The practice is built on the assumption that peace is something to produce, and that the producing will eventually deliver the real thing.

Massaro names the mistake directly. "We identify awareness with a state of mind with an experience," he says in the video (at 0:57). Once awareness is filed under "experience," it becomes one more item in the catalogue, and the seeker starts grading items. A deep silence feels like progress. A restless mind feels like failure. Both are treated as evidence about how far away the goal still is.

The argument is not that silence is bad. He is careful to say the opposite about its beauty. The point is that however beautiful a silence is, it is still an appearance. "However beautiful the state of silence might be, it's just another experience," he says (at 1:20). The follow-up question is the one that does the real work: what is it that is experiencing the silence? And can that "what" itself be experienced like an object?

He also suggests that this is a matter of acceptance rather than analysis. "We can't intellectually map awareness," he says (at 1:46). "It's unmappable. It's indefinable. It's graspable. It's simply here." You cannot think your way to a map of the thing doing the thinking. Trying to do so keeps the seeker busy with concepts while the thing being sought has never been absent.

What does it mean that awareness is already here?

The most concrete move in the video is a set of small, ordinary observations. What is noticing that your hand is moving right now? Something already knows you are sitting there, knows where the webcam is, knows the trees are nice. "I don't have to think about it," he says (around 3:24). That unforced knowing is what he calls natural presence, and he argues it is present in every experience without exception.

This is where the teaching becomes uncomfortable for people who have built a practice around getting the mind right. If awareness is the same whether you feel silent or whether you feel depressed, then the feeling is not the thing that matters. "You can wake up totally depressed, totally anxious," Massaro says (at 4:09). "But if you relax the need to change that, then there's a peace that becomes self-evident, because it's the peace that's noticing the depression."

He is careful to explain that this is not an instruction to feel better about the depression. It is a shift in what you take yourself to be. Most of us, he says, quietly believe that an experience belongs to us: "We claim every experience." Silence gets claimed as a treasure, and then awareness gets isolated as a special possession that must be guarded. In his telling, the claiming is the thing that cuts awareness off from the life it is already part of.

Isn't witnessing the answer to all of this?

This is the most personal passage in the video, and it is worth slowing down for. Massaro describes years of serious yoga and meditation practice, during which he got stuck in what he calls a witnessing state. "I was isolating awareness and it didn't feel right," he says (around 7:19). He could not get past it, or so he thought, and he assumed he had to get past that as well.

The witnessing, in his account, told him the same thing again: it was just another experience. This is the subtle trap of the watcher. Standing back and observing your thoughts can feel like arriving at the root of things, but the observer has now become an object of pursuit, a higher state to hold onto. Massaro's correction is to stop treating awareness as the view from a particular place and see that nothing has ever happened outside of it.

"Has anything ever existed outside of your awareness of it? Can you say that it exists outside of your awareness of?" — Bentinho Massaro, in the video (at 8:40)

He presses the question across the full range of human experience. He lists heaven, hell, bliss, ecstasy, depression, anxiety, and "no matter if you're a total wreck." Whatever the experience, he asks what it was known by. The answer he offers is the same each time: awareness is the sole source and the knower of every experience, and it is not separate from what it knows.

How can awareness be present in deep sleep?

The sharpest argument in the video concerns the experience of being unaware. People who go into deep sleep or a dark absorbed state, and then come back, often say they were not there. Massaro turns this claim around. "How do you know you weren't there?" he asks (around 9:04). "How could you be brought back if there wasn't awareness to bring you back?" If nothing were knowing in deep sleep, nothing could wake you. Someone could shake you and nothing would happen.

The logic is simple and, for many listeners, quietly disorienting. The fact of waking up is evidence that something was present through the absence. Awareness, as he uses the word, is not conscious attention in the intellectual sense. It is "this natural underlying always ever-present source of experience." The sleep, the silence, the anxiety, and the ecstasy all sit inside that source, and their coming and going is itself the evidence it is there.

What does it mean to stop trying to create a state?

If awareness is always already here, then the practical question shifts. The problem is not that you have not reached it. The problem is the energy spent reaching. Massaro's instruction is to relax the tendency to seek and to notice what is doing the seeking. "Just relax the tendency to get to a state," he says, "instead notice what's experiencing everything constantly" (around 11:26). The more you notice that you are always here, the less the struggle is your struggle.

He is honest that the old habits do not vanish. "I too have tendencies like oh I need to get somewhere," he says. "I'm not spiritual enough," or "I have too much ego." His point is that these thoughts do not disqualify anyone. "Awareness doesn't care," he says, and the noticing does not need to wait for the thoughts to stop.

The language he uses for life itself is unusually warm. "Life is really beautiful. It takes perfect care of itself," he says (around 10:25). He describes an intelligence in life that brings things together even when it does not look that way, and he frames the whole process as life confirming awareness, which is already happening in the act of listening. The reframing is significant for seekers who have treated their own ordinary days as obstacles. In his description, nothing is missing that needs to be added.

He ends by pointing toward what is most overlooked. "You are already what's seeing," he says (around 13:08). "You are already that presence, that natural knowing in which all experience arises." Even the taking of a break, he notes, is seen by the same knowing. There is no moment when awareness leaves to let you have a rest.

Where to go from here

The video is short, and it does not ask for a new technique. It asks for a change in attention, which is harder to schedule and easier to forget. A few threads from the teaching are worth carrying into a day:

  • When you sit to meditate, notice the impulse to get the mind to a particular quality, and watch what that impulse does to your sense of progress.
  • Ask the question Massaro keeps asking: what is the experience being known by? Look for the knowing rather than the content.
  • Notice when you have claimed a feeling as your own, such as a peaceful silence or a heavy depression, and see whether the knowing of it changes.
  • When a guru's instruction or a spiritual ideal makes you feel you are not enough, check whether that thought is itself an appearance within the same awareness.

Massaro's larger claim is that the search for awareness has been looking in the wrong direction. The thing you are trying to become is already the thing that notices you trying. That can sound like a letdown to a seeker who wants a dramatic arrival. It can also be a relief, because the work is no longer to build a state you do not have. The work is to see clearly what has been present all along.

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[0:03] There's an incredible peace

[0:09] that's right there in the midst of every

[0:11] experience.

[0:17] It's not depending on any state of

[0:19] silence or

[0:22] it's not depending on anything quite

[0:24] frankly. And there is this myth in in in

[0:28] the especially in the spiritual seeking

[0:32] world so to speak that we have to become

[0:35] something right. We have to train

[0:37] ourselves

[0:40] to reach a state of mind of peace of

[0:43] equinimity of

[0:46] silence. Silence is a big one. It's a

[0:48] big understanding. It's a big uh

[0:52] misunderstanding for most

[0:57] Because this really is the myth that we

[0:58] keep chasing after these

[1:01] experiences that's supposed to be the

[1:04] real thing or awareness. We identify

[1:07] awareness with a state of mind with an

[1:10] experience.

[1:11] So however beautiful

[1:14] the state of silence might be,

[1:20] it's just another experience.

[1:23] And what is it that's experiencing?

[1:26] And can that be experienced?

[1:44] So it's of an immense importance that we

[1:46] actually start to understand

[1:49] uh or start to accept really because we

[1:52] can't understand it by thinking about

[1:54] it. We can't intellectually map

[1:56] awareness. It's unmappable. It's

[1:59] indefinable. It's graspable. It's simply

[2:02] here as that which fuels this

[2:04] experience. It fuels every perception as

[2:08] a perception within itself.

[2:15] And the myth is

[2:17] that it's depending on a state of

[2:19] silence.

[2:22] So we do all these practices to quiet

[2:25] our mind to become silent.

[2:31] And awareness is constantly here. It's

[2:34] seeing the silence equally as it is

[2:36] seeing the disturbance.

[2:38] There's no difference to awareness.

[2:55] So when we just

[2:59] relax the need to try to find something,

[3:02] to try to understand something, to try

[3:03] to reach some state of silence or some

[3:06] state of awareness,

[3:11] What happens when we relax that

[3:12] tendency, that seeking?

[3:17] What's noticing the seeking? What's

[3:20] noticing that my hand is moving right

[3:22] now? I don't have to think about this.

[3:24] Something is already knowing that I'm

[3:26] sitting here. Something knows that the

[3:28] webcam is over there. Something knows

[3:30] that there are nice trees over here.

[3:35] I don't have to think about it.

[3:38] something knows that I'm here without

[3:40] thinking about it. And this natural

[3:43] presence,

[3:46] this natural cognizance

[3:48] is the case in any experience.

[3:51] So whether you experience silence or

[3:53] whether you're experiencing experiencing

[3:56] depression, it doesn't matter to

[3:57] awareness.

[4:01] Peace is right there

[4:04] as the depression. It's amazing.

[4:09] You can wake up totally

[4:13] totally depressed, totally anxious.

[4:18] But if you relax the need to change

[4:21] that,

[4:22] then there's

[4:24] a piece that becomes self-evident

[4:26] because it's the piece that's noticing

[4:29] the depression.

[4:31] And we believe and that's just a belief

[4:35] that the depression

[4:37] is an experience in and of itself that

[4:39] we are having. It's our experience. We

[4:42] claim every experience.

[4:45] So when there's a silence, we claim it

[4:47] and then we're isolating awareness again

[4:49] because we think ah awareness is this

[4:51] beautiful feeling of silence. I'm so

[4:54] peaceful right now. Right here. Go away.

[4:57] Don't disturb me. I'm in my silence.

[5:00] awareness

[5:05] once again. It doesn't care.

[5:09] It's looking right now. It's hearing.

[5:13] It's not It's not the sound, but it's

[5:15] hearing the sound. It's the openness in

[5:17] which all perceptions arise, in which

[5:19] all

[5:22] seeing arise, in which all the hearing

[5:25] arises, and also in which all depression

[5:28] arises.

[5:34] and to be rested

[5:36] to be grounded to be

[5:41] not even that because the grounding if I

[5:43] say ground yourself or rest then it

[5:46] becomes another practice

[5:50] in what's already seeing.

[5:53] So,

[5:58] so even to say that we have to abide as

[6:02] the self or to abide as awareness, it

[6:05] can be useful to some degree, you know,

[6:08] to getting used to it. And uh

[6:13] but basically why we're recognizing

[6:15] awareness is to see to realize to make

[6:19] this

[6:21] kind of this shift to intercept our

[6:23] seeking by seeing clearly that whatever

[6:27] we do regardless of how it feels

[6:30] regardless of our state of mind

[6:33] is never going to be anything other than

[6:35] awareness.

[6:39] That awareness is always here. It's

[6:41] always here. Always.

[6:46] Every experience is known because

[6:48] awareness is is the knower of it. But

[6:51] it's also

[6:54] it's not separate from the experience.

[7:01] I remember for my practices when I was

[7:04] really into yoga meditation

[7:08] for a couple of years I think I was

[7:10] really really stuck in this

[7:15] this witnessing state you know

[7:19] just I was isolating awareness

[7:23] and it didn't feel right but I couldn't

[7:25] get past it or so I thought I thought I

[7:28] had to get past that too.

[7:31] But the witnessing said

[7:34] it's just another experience once again.

[7:51] Ask yourself, has anything that I have

[7:54] ever experienced

[7:56] not happened within awareness?

[8:00] Has there ever been anything, any state

[8:02] of mind, any experience whatsoever? No

[8:04] matter how special, no matter how many

[8:06] gurus were around you holding their

[8:08] hands on your head, no matter how many

[8:10] demons or angels you visited,

[8:20] no matter if you've been to hell, to

[8:22] heaven, to bliss, to ecstasy, or to

[8:25] depression and anxiety, no matter if

[8:28] you're a total wreck, I don't care if

[8:30] you're a murderer, if you're a killer,

[8:32] whatever is the experience that you're

[8:34] having,

[8:34] Has anything ever existed outside of

[8:38] your awareness of it? Can you say that

[8:40] it exists outside of your awareness of?

[8:46] What has been the sole cause, the sole

[8:48] root of your every single experience

[8:51] without exception? Including your

[8:54] experience of being not aware, of being

[8:57] unaware. the experience of of sleep for

[9:00] example deep sleep or

[9:04] you know some people go in the trench

[9:06] and then they supposedly come back out

[9:09] of the state and then they say oh I

[9:11] wasn't here

[9:15] I wasn't here well how do you know you

[9:18] wasn't there how could you be brought

[9:21] back if there wasn't awareness to bring

[9:24] you back.

[9:30] How can you ever wake up if there's no

[9:31] awareness in deep sleep?

[9:35] You couldn't wake up. What would wake

[9:37] you? You wouldn't know because you're

[9:39] not aware. Nothing. Somebody could shake

[9:41] you. Nothing would happen. But awareness

[9:44] is always present. And it's not

[9:47] awareness as in our conscious attention

[9:49] per se as we're used to it. It's not the

[9:51] intellectual consciousness.

[9:55] It's just this natural

[9:57] underlying always everpresent

[10:02] source of experience. It's the source of

[10:04] experience

[10:06] and we can't deny that it's here because

[10:08] every experience

[10:10] is evidence of that.

[10:25] So the whole trick here, the whole game

[10:27] that we're playing to get to this state

[10:29] or to get to awareness

[10:32] more so than anything else,

[10:40] it's about life confirming itself. It's

[10:43] about life confirming awareness.

[10:46] And it's doing it already. It's doing it

[10:48] right now through this video. There's

[10:50] nothing that you have to do about it.

[10:56] Life is really beautiful. It takes

[10:57] perfect care of itself. You know,

[11:00] everything comes together beautifully.

[11:02] Even when it doesn't seem to be that

[11:04] way, there's an intelligence. There's

[11:10] there's a natural surface. There's a

[11:12] self benefit in life inherent in life.

[11:16] And uh

[11:20] you know just just relax your tendency

[11:22] to get to a state

[11:24] instead

[11:26] notice what's experiencing everything

[11:28] constantly

[11:30] and the more you will notice it that you

[11:32] are always here.

[11:37] The more the struggle will no longer be

[11:41] your struggle. It might still appear. I

[11:44] too have tendencies like oh I need to

[11:46] get somewhere I need to reach this state

[11:48] or I'm not spiritual enough or

[11:52] you know I have too too much ego is

[11:55] still present

[11:57] but it doesn't matter it all doesn't

[11:59] matter awareness doesn't care and just

[12:02] to notice this that it's always present

[12:05] that it is the sole cause source and

[12:09] perceiver of

[12:12] whatever experience is experienced

[12:18] There's nothing beyond it. You see,

[12:20] because everything that that is

[12:23] experienced as beyond awareness, where

[12:26] does it occur? What sees it?

[12:29] You know, there's there's no state to

[12:31] get to. There's no self-realization to

[12:33] get to. It's here all along. It's very

[12:36] human almost. You could say

[12:40] it's very ordinary. It's

[12:44] It's life itself. It's just here, you

[12:46] see. And it's always here regardless

[12:48] what appears.

[12:52] So give it a rest. Give it relax the

[12:55] tendency to seek

[12:59] and just notice these tendencies, you

[13:01] know.

[13:02] Just notice whenever you think ah this

[13:04] guru once said I have to do this or I

[13:07] have to be non-existent or I have to be

[13:08] a non-doer.

[13:11] It's not true. You are already what

[13:14] seeing. You are already

[13:18] that presence, that natural knowing in

[13:22] which all experience arises in and as

[13:25] which all experience arises.

[13:30] When we chill out, when we take a break

[13:33] from our

[13:37] and even the taking a break is seen

[13:39] already, right? So we recognize really

[13:41] what's what's seeing everything and I

[13:43] mean everything already.

[13:46] It's always already present. You can't

[13:49] get behind it. You can't reach it. It's

[13:51] always already here. And this becomes

[13:53] self-evident. It's all about it becoming

[13:56] obvious to itself

[13:58] through this video is one mean

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Frequently Asked Questions

Bentinho Massaro argues no. In this video he says awareness is not an experience but the knowing in which every experience appears, so it cannot be produced like a state of silence. He suggests that trying to reach it as a destination keeps the seeker identified with experiences.
He says that however beautiful a silence feels, it is still something that appears and is known. The question he poses is what is experiencing the silence, and whether that can itself be experienced as an object. He treats silence as an appearance rather than the real thing.
Massaro describes getting stuck in a witnessing state during years of yoga and meditation, where he isolated awareness as an observer. He says the witnessing told him it was just another experience, because the observer becomes another object to hold onto. The correction is to see that nothing has ever happened outside awareness.
Massaro asks how you could be woken from deep sleep if nothing were present to be brought back. Since waking is itself evidence that something knew the absence, he argues awareness is the underlying source present even when attention is absent. It is not the same as intellectual consciousness.
It means noticing the impulse to reach a state and seeing that noticing is already aware, rather than acting on the impulse. Massaro says the struggle lessens as you notice you are always here, and that the tendency to seek does not need to stop before you can notice it.
Massaro says depression and anxiety do not change awareness. He describes peace being present as the depression itself, because what notices the depression is not depressed. He says the practice is to relax the need to change the feeling, not to force a better state.

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