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Inspiration

Seven Habits for Greater Happiness in Your Later Years

Arthur Brooks
Arthur Brooks
Sep 15, 2025
11 min read

Contrary to cultural assumptions that aging means declining happiness, longitudinal research from the Harvard Study of Adult Development shows that well-being follows a U-shaped curve—declining modestly from the early 20s through the early 50s, then rebounding to levels often higher than youth. This rebound depends not on luck but on deliberate "investments" made earlier in life. The seven habits that drive later-life happiness are: managing four destructive behaviors (smoking, excessive drinking, substance abuse, and inactivity); regular physical exercise; developing emotional regulation skills; cultivating a learning mindset; nurturing close relationships; practicing a philosophical life; and strategic generosity. Unlike the fleeting satisfaction of external achievements, these habits compound over decades, creating what behavioral scientist Arthur Brooks calls "compounding interest in the business of happiness."

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Why the U-Shaped Happiness Curve Surprises So Many People

When asked to imagine their lives at 38 versus their current age of 28, roughly 90% of young adults predict they will be happier ten years into the future. This optimism is rooted in a plausible narrative: they will have achieved the things they're working for—the job, the promotion, the family, the success. Yet research reveals a counterintuitive pattern. Instead of climbing steadily upward, average happiness declines year-over-year from the early 20s through the early 50s. This is not cause for alarm; it reflects a fundamental trade-off in how people allocate their psychological resources.

Happiness, according to Brooks's framework, comprises three "macronutrients": enjoyment, satisfaction, and meaning. Enjoyment is a short-term happiness play—the pleasure of the moment. Satisfaction comes from accomplishment and activity. Meaning is the long-term play—understanding the why of your existence. In your 30s and 40s, while raising children, managing mortgages, and navigating demanding careers, life may feel less immediately enjoyable. You're tired, stressed, and overwhelmed by logistics. But you are depositing massive amounts of meaning into the bank. The apparent decline in happiness reflects a conscious (though often unconscious) trade: sacrificing present enjoyment for future meaning and satisfaction. This is not a bug in human development; it is a feature.

What Happens After Your Early 50s?

The trajectory reverses. After the early 50s, people who have made smart investments begin to see happiness rebound—and it often exceeds the levels they experienced in youth. This rebound is not automatic. It depends entirely on whether you have built the right habits and relationships over the preceding decades. The happiness curve you experience in your 60s, 70s, and beyond is not predetermined by biology or circumstance; it is shaped by the specific investments you made when you were 28, 38, and 48.

This is why Brooks frames these habits as "investments" rather than rules or suggestions. You are not simply improving your present well-being; you are programming your future. The compounding effect is profound. A habit adopted at 35 will have paid dividends for 30+ years by the time you reach 65. Conversely, ignoring these habits means forgoing those dividends precisely when you most need them.

The Four Destructive Habits to Eliminate First

The research on later-life happiness begins with a clear finding: four behaviors are strongly linked to unhappiness and, in particular, to shorter lifespans and lower well-being in old age. They are smoking, excessive drinking, substance abuse, and physical inactivity. Brooks notes that many people already know these behaviors are harmful—the evidence against smoking, for instance, has been public for decades. Yet knowledge alone does not drive change.

The key insight is that eliminating these four habits is foundational. You cannot build a happiness portfolio if these are eating away at it from the inside. Brooks emphasizes that this is not about perfectionism or shame; it is about recognizing that these four behaviors are the most reliable predictors of future unhappiness. If you are a smoker, a heavy drinker, or sedentary, addressing these first will unlock your capacity to benefit from the remaining six investments.

One observation Brooks shares is that people often find themselves in cycles where they identify a goal—weight loss, quitting smoking, cutting back on alcohol—and then feel shame when they lapse. He reframes this: these are not moral failures. They are data. Each lapse is a learning experience, a signal about what conditions led you to the unwanted behavior, and an opportunity to adjust your approach.

Exercise as a Non-Negotiable Investment

Exercise appears consistently across happiness research as one of the most reliable levers for improving well-being. What matters is not intensity or athleticism, but consistency and engagement. Brooks mentions the example of undertaking a multi-hundred-kilometer pilgrimage as a form of sustained physical activity, but he is clear that the mechanism is not about extreme feats. Instead, the goal is to be an active person—someone who moves regularly, who has physical practices woven into the fabric of life.

The research shows that exercise delivers benefits beyond the obvious cardiovascular gains. Regular physical activity correlates with improved mood, better sleep, increased energy, and a sense of agency—the feeling that you have some control over your body and your life. This sense of agency itself becomes part of your well-being toolkit. As you age, the ability to move, to feel strong, and to maintain physical independence becomes increasingly tied to life satisfaction and meaning.

Learning as a Lifelong Practice, Not a Phase

One of the seven habits that most strongly predicts happiness in old age is the capacity and willingness to learn. This is not about formal education or credentials. It is about maintaining a learning orientation to life—an openness to new ideas, to questioning assumptions, to exploring unfamiliar domains.

Brooks emphasizes that learning is protective against despair. When you are learning, you are engaging with novelty; you are changing your mind; you are encountering perspectives different from your own. This keeps the mind supple and combats the tendency toward rigidity that can set in with age. The person who stops reading, stops questioning, and stops exploring tends to experience a contraction of happiness. The person who picks up new subjects, reads widely, and engages with ideas different from their own maintains a sense of growth and possibility.

This habit is particularly important in midlife and beyond, when external markers of progress—promotion, financial gain—often plateau. Learning becomes a way of marking progress that is entirely within your control. You can always decide to read a new book, take a class, or explore a question that intrigues you.

Emotional Regulation: The Skill That Compounds

One of the most overlooked but powerful investments is the development of emotional regulation—the ability to experience difficult emotions without being destroyed by them. Brooks notes that emotions like sadness and anger are not problems to be eliminated; they are information. Your sadness is telling you something. Your anger is a signal. The skill is learning to sit with these emotions, to extract their information, and to choose your response.

This skill was particularly adaptive for humans 250,000 years ago, when the ability to stay calm under threat or to process grief without collapsing had direct survival value. Today, that same capacity—to metabolize setbacks, losses, and disappointments—is one of the strongest predictors of happiness in later life. People who have developed this skill enter their 60s, 70s, and 80s with a psychological resilience that those without it lack.

Brooks also mentions that people sometimes confuse trying to eliminate sadness with trying to eliminate the situations that cause sadness. These are different. You cannot always control whether your job ends, whether someone dies, whether your health declines. But you can control how you relate to those realities. The habit of emotional regulation is the capacity to face hard things without fragmenting.

Love and Close Connection as the Strongest Predictor

Across the Harvard Study of Adult Development and decades of happiness research, one finding emerges repeatedly: love—in the sense of deep, reliable human connection—is the single strongest predictor of happiness in old age. Not social activity in general. Not having many friends or a large network. Rather, having one or a few truly close relationships in which you are known, valued, and loved.

This finding contradicts the contemporary cultural emphasis on accumulating followers, connections, and social acquaintances. Brooks highlights that one deeply intimate connection can matter more for your later-life well-being than many casual relationships. This is why marriage dissolution—and in particular, the habits that lead to it—deserves attention. Among the couples studied, certain patterns predicted divorce. One habit in particular stands out as strongly linked to marriage failure, though Brooks does not isolate it here; instead, he emphasizes the need to protect and deepen the relationships that matter most.

The implication is clear: investing in your relationships now—showing up, working through conflict, deepening intimacy—is one of the highest-return investments you can make. A 70-year-old with one person who loves them deeply and knows them fully will report higher happiness than a 70-year-old with a large but shallow social network.

Living a Philosophical Life

The sixth habit involves cultivating what Brooks calls a "philosophical life"—an intentional engagement with questions of meaning, purpose, and how to live. This is not academic philosophy, though it may include reading philosophy. Rather, it is the habit of asking: What do I believe? Why do I believe it? How do I want to live? What matters most to me?

Brooks notes that you cannot have a philosophical life if you are not engaged with people and ideas beyond yourself. Isolation and philosophical depth are incompatible. A philosophical life is constructed through dialogue, reflection, and the constant updating of your understanding of what matters. This is why learning—the fifth habit—and philosophical living are complementary. As you learn new things, you refine your philosophy. As you clarify your philosophy, you learn more effectively.

One practical expression of this is writing down or articulating your own "rules"—the principles by which you want to live. These rules become anchors. When you face a choice, you can return to them and ask: Is this consistent with how I've decided to live? This practice becomes increasingly valuable with age, when the sheer accumulation of choices and commitments can otherwise lead to a sense of drift.

Generosity and Strategic Giving

The seventh and final habit is generosity—but not the indiscriminate kind. Brooks emphasizes "strategic" generosity: giving in ways that align with your values, that create meaning for you, and that reflect your philosophy of life. This might be mentoring younger people, volunteering, donating to causes you believe in, or simply giving your time and attention to people you love.

Generosity compounds happiness for two reasons. First, it creates meaning—you are part of something larger than yourself. Second, it produces what psychologists call "prosocial reward"—the brain literally rewards you when you act in service to others. Over decades, a habit of strategic generosity builds a sense that your life has mattered, that you have contributed, that your existence has had positive consequences for others. This sense of legacy and impact is a central source of later-life satisfaction.

The Compounding Effect Over Decades

What ties all seven habits together is their compounding nature. A single act of generosity, one difficult emotion managed well, one new book read—these are small. But accumulated over 30 years, they reshape your character, your relationships, and your brain. The person who has, year after year, read widely, managed their emotions skillfully, exercised regularly, deepened their closest relationships, and acted generously will arrive at 70 with a completely different psychology and social world than the person who neglected these habits.

This is why Brooks calls people who must work harder on these habits "elite happiness athletes." If happiness does not come naturally to you, if you are not blessed with a sunny temperament or favorable circumstances, you have the advantage of clarity: you know you must practice. And practice, over decades, builds mastery. The result is not luck but earned well-being.

Where to Go From Here

The immediate question after learning about these seven habits is not "How do I do all of them perfectly?" but rather "Which one am I neglecting most?" Start there. If you smoke, quit. If you are sedentary, begin moving. If your closest relationships are frayed, start repairing them. If you have stopped learning, pick up a book on a topic you've always wondered about. If you have lost sight of why your life matters, spend an afternoon writing down your values and rules.

The Harvard Study of Adult Development did not measure happiness only at the end of life; it tracked it continuously across decades. This means the payoff from these habits begins immediately. You do not have to wait until you are 70 to feel better. As you eliminate destructive behaviors, start exercising, deepen a relationship, or learn something new, your well-being shifts within weeks and months. The long-term payoff is higher, but the immediate return is real.

The research is clear: your later years do not have to be a decline. They can be some of the happiest of your life—but only if you begin, today, to invest in the habits that will compound into that happiness.

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[0:00] Let's ask the basic question. When

[0:02] people get older, do they naturally get

[0:05] happier or not? As a matter of fact,

[0:07] it's not readily apparent. When I ask my

[0:10] students, "What does it seem like to you

[0:12] to be 58 versus 28? I don't want that. I

[0:16] don't want that." And I say, "Why?" And

[0:17] they can't quite say why, except that it

[0:19] doesn't sound fun to be middle-aged or

[0:21] old. Well, it really depends on your

[0:24] quality of life, doesn't it? Do people

[0:26] all experience life with the same level

[0:27] of enjoyment, satisfaction, and meaning?

[0:29] Nope. They have different tendencies and

[0:32] that means some people aka me and some

[0:35] of you have to work harder on our habits

[0:36] and that's a blessing. You and I are

[0:39] held to a higher standard and that's

[0:41] what has to make us elite happiness

[0:43] athletes.

[0:45] [Music]

[0:50] Hi friends, welcome to office hours. I'm

[0:53] Arthur Brooks. I'm a behavioral

[0:55] scientist dedicated to lifting people up

[0:57] and bringing them together in bonds of

[1:00] happiness and love using science and

[1:02] ideas. I teach at Harvard University

[1:05] where I teach classes on the science of

[1:07] happiness. That's what I write about in

[1:08] the Atlantic. Every Thursday morning I

[1:11] have a column uh called How to Build a

[1:13] Life. It's your column for the science

[1:15] of happiness with new ideas every single

[1:18] week. My new book is right here, The

[1:20] Happiness Files, is 33 essays that are a

[1:22] lot like this show on how you can be

[1:25] happier at work and happier in your

[1:26] life. And they're ideas that you can

[1:29] bring to other people as well. What do I

[1:31] want? I want you to live a happier life

[1:33] based on science. And I want you to

[1:35] become a teacher of this material with

[1:37] me. That's why I've created this show.

[1:40] That's why I do my work. And that's why

[1:41] I'm so grateful to you for spending the

[1:43] next 45 minutes with me looking at

[1:45] science in the public interest. science

[1:47] that you can use to lift yourself and

[1:50] other people up. Now, please let me know

[1:53] what's on your mind. Leave comments

[1:55] wherever you're viewing or listening to

[1:57] this show. Um, make sure that you note

[2:00] the email address if you want to send an

[2:02] email directly to me and my team. That's

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[2:06] And while you're at it, please like and

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[2:11] on the happiness science that we're

[2:13] trying to bring to the rest of the world

[2:14] as well. This is one of the ways that we

[2:16] can spread these ideas and and by the

[2:18] way, while you're at it, please uh send

[2:20] a link to the show to uh one and a half

[2:22] million of your closest friends. Now,

[2:25] I've been looking at the comments and

[2:26] and I know it's on your mind and it's

[2:28] kind of what's on my mind as well.

[2:29] Here's a question that I've gotten over

[2:31] the past few weeks of this show that I

[2:33] want to look at today. Namely, what can

[2:36] you do for that matter, what can I do to

[2:39] give us the best chance of getting

[2:41] happier as we get older? A lot of people

[2:44] are concerned about this. My students at

[2:46] the university are on average 28 years

[2:48] old. They're master's degree students.

[2:50] They're not kids, but they're pretty

[2:52] young. They're in their mid20s and and

[2:54] they're thinking about the future

[2:57] sometimes with a little bit of dread,

[2:59] actually. Why? Because getting older

[3:01] doesn't sound like fun. In our culture,

[3:03] we tend to valorize and almost worship

[3:05] youth as if this should be the happiest

[3:08] time of your life. And yet, it doesn't

[3:10] feel that way a lot of the time. Still,

[3:12] when I ask my students, "What does it

[3:14] seem like to you to be 58 versus 28, 78

[3:18] versus 28? I don't want that. I don't

[3:21] want that." And I say, "Why?" And they

[3:23] can't quite say why, except that it

[3:24] doesn't sound fun to be middle-aged or

[3:26] old. Well, it really depends on your

[3:29] quality of life, doesn't it? And your

[3:31] quality of life depends on a lot on your

[3:33] on your investments right now. That's

[3:35] what I want to talk about. My subject

[3:38] today is the seven investments that you

[3:40] can make today that are going to pay off

[3:43] now

[3:44] pretty pretty well and a lot later. And

[3:47] this is actually what we find based on

[3:49] longitudinal data and the best science

[3:51] available. This is based on studies not

[3:54] suppositions. So these aren't just old

[3:57] kind of hackne ideas. These are the

[3:59] things that are actually showing up in

[4:00] the research that's been undertaken over

[4:02] the past 90 years or so. These are the

[4:05] seven habits that lead to greater

[4:07] happiness as you walk through the voyage

[4:10] of your life. So let's get started. Now

[4:13] to begin with, let's ask the basic

[4:15] question. When people get older, do they

[4:19] naturally get happier or not? Most

[4:22] people don't know. And the truth is when

[4:24] I started studying the science of

[4:25] happiness, I didn't know either. As a

[4:27] matter of fact, it's not readily

[4:29] apparent. When I ask my students, you

[4:31] know, who are, as I mentioned, 28 years

[4:33] old on average, do you think you're

[4:35] going to be happier or unhappier in 10

[4:38] years? Say 38. I say, imagine yourself

[4:41] when you're 38. They're like, ah, it's

[4:42] so old. And I'm like, just wait. And

[4:46] then I ask them to vote, happier or

[4:48] unhappier. 90% think they're going to be

[4:50] happier. The others are maybe a little

[4:53] cynical. They hope to be happier, but

[4:54] 90% is a lot. And then I ask them why

[4:57] and they give me a very plausible

[4:59] explanation. They say, for example, the

[5:02] things that I want, I'm going to get.

[5:03] And and it's true. I know because I've

[5:06] been teaching for a long time. If you're

[5:09] working hard and you're a stver and

[5:11] you're ambitious and you're killing it,

[5:13] you're going to get what you work for.

[5:15] So be careful what you wish for, as they

[5:17] as they used to say. And it's true

[5:20] because wrong dreams, bad outcome. But

[5:22] you know, you want the job and the

[5:24] promotion and the success and the family

[5:26] and all those things, you're probably

[5:27] going to get it. And that's why most

[5:29] people think that at 38 they're going to

[5:31] be happier than at 28. Then I say, "How

[5:33] about 48?" And most people say happier

[5:36] still cuz more of same. Then I start

[5:39] progressing through the decades and they

[5:40] get less and less enthusiastic. Why?

[5:43] Because it's murkier. Also because it

[5:44] just sounds like there's more problems.

[5:46] You get older, right? Well, not

[5:48] necessarily. It turns out there's a way

[5:50] that you can program these later years

[5:53] based on the smart things that you're

[5:55] doing now that will benefit you right

[5:57] now as well, but have a really great

[5:59] long-term payoff. They have a

[6:01] compounding interest in the business of

[6:03] happiness. And specifically, there's

[6:05] seven things that I'm going to talk

[6:07] about. Now, back to this whole arc of

[6:09] happiness. People think that their

[6:12] happiness is going to go up and up and

[6:13] up and kind of max out at some point and

[6:15] then come back down again. That's

[6:16] actually wrong. The average person tends

[6:20] to actually decline in net net

[6:23] year-to-year happiness from their early

[6:25] 20s until their early 50s. Now, don't

[6:27] panic. This is not a bad thing. Let me

[6:30] explain why that happens. Happiness, for

[6:32] any of you who've been following my

[6:33] research over the years, you know that

[6:35] happiness has three macronutrients,

[6:37] three fundamental elements, components.

[6:40] They are enjoyment, satisfaction, and

[6:43] meaning. Those are the three big parts

[6:45] of your life. You need to enjoy your

[6:47] life. You need to take satisfaction in

[6:48] your accomplishments and activities and

[6:50] you need to know the why of your

[6:51] existence. Those are the three projects.

[6:53] The pursuit of happiness and the

[6:55] American Declaration of Independence. If

[6:57] good old Tom Thomas Jefferson were a

[6:59] happiness scientist, he'd talk about the

[7:00] pursuit of enjoyment, satisfaction, and

[7:02] meaning. That's really what the pursuit

[7:05] is all about. Now, when I see happiness

[7:09] for the average adult declining, it's

[7:11] actually not it's not a it's not a scary

[7:14] or alarming thing at all. What this is

[7:16] is that people enjoy their lives a

[7:20] little bit less than they used to, but

[7:21] they're putting more meaning in the

[7:23] bank. It means that you're trading one

[7:25] macronutrient of happiness for another.

[7:27] Enjoyment is a short-term happiness

[7:29] play. Meaning is a long-term happiness

[7:32] play. When you're in your 30s and you're

[7:34] you're raising your kids and it's it's a

[7:36] pain and you're worrying about your

[7:37] mortgage and your job's crazy and you've

[7:39] got to commute, it's not that enjoyable

[7:41] a lot of the time, but it's very

[7:43] meaningful. And what that means is that

[7:45] you're sacrificing some of your

[7:46] enjoyment now for a bunch of meaning

[7:48] later. And that meaning really starts to

[7:51] come home to roost in your in your 50s.

[7:53] What we see is a massive escalation in

[7:55] average happiness for people from early

[7:57] 50s until about 70. So this is a good

[8:00] time. I'm 61 years old and trust me,

[8:02] it's it's actually it's pretty

[8:04] extraordinary. I I wouldn't have known

[8:05] it when I was 31 and 41, but 61's way

[8:09] better for a lot of the things that I

[8:11] did right. and I'm not paying that much

[8:13] for things I did wrong. And we're going

[8:14] to talk about that more in a minute. So,

[8:16] so this is the thing to to console you

[8:19] if you find that enjoyment is really

[8:20] really tricky. You're making these

[8:22] happiness investments and that those

[8:24] happiness investments in terms of

[8:25] meaning are really going to pay off a

[8:26] little bit later. So, almost everybody

[8:28] gets happier between their early 50s and

[8:31] and about 70 years old. That's what the

[8:33] data say. And then the population kind

[8:35] of breaks up into two groups. That's the

[8:37] point in which about half the population

[8:39] keeps getting happier and half the

[8:41] population starts back down again. Half

[8:43] and half. And and it's pretty pronounced

[8:46] what we actually see. You see this group

[8:48] of old people that's really happy and

[8:50] you see a group of old people that's

[8:52] really unhappy. You don't see kind of

[8:54] neutral people in that zone. So, I'm

[8:56] just going to take a wild stab at which

[8:58] group you want to be in. The goal is to

[9:01] be above your natural happiness

[9:02] trajectory all the way through and then

[9:04] get into that upper branch of the

[9:06] happiness curve after 70. What can you

[9:09] do today? Now, a lot of people are like,

[9:12] "Have good luck?" But that's not good

[9:14] enough for you, is it? You don't want to

[9:16] be on that lower branch. You want to

[9:18] avoid that. You want to get on that

[9:19] upper branch. My job today is to tell

[9:22] you the seven ways to get on the upper

[9:24] branch and to avoid the lower branch.

[9:26] And we know how to do it. Now, I'm going

[9:28] to tell you about some data that that

[9:30] show us why we know that. And these are

[9:32] data that I I I mentioned in the very

[9:35] first episode of this podcast. This is

[9:37] called the Harvard Study of Adult

[9:38] Development. This is a study that was

[9:40] started in the late 1930s. I mentioned

[9:42] it quite briefly in that episode. I'm

[9:44] really going to dig into it today

[9:45] because this is the gold standard for

[9:47] longitudinal data. This is the best data

[9:50] available that that track people over

[9:52] the lifetime and interview them every

[9:53] year, year on year on year. Why? Because

[9:55] that's a crystal ball. These are data

[9:57] that start when people are teenagers and

[10:00] ask them how they're living, what

[10:01] they're doing, and then years, decades

[10:04] later, it shows whether they're happy

[10:06] and healthy, and then it compares those

[10:09] early behaviors with those later

[10:11] outcomes. This is great. This is exactly

[10:13] what we want. There's not very much data

[10:14] like this in the world because, you

[10:16] know, this is a huge investment, a

[10:18] 90-year data analysis. You know, the

[10:20] people who are starting the starting the

[10:21] study and funding the study, they're all

[10:23] going to be dead. So, why would we do

[10:25] that? And when the answer is is good for

[10:27] humanity and fortunately some people

[10:28] did. This study started among sophomores

[10:31] at Harvard College. That's the

[10:33] undergraduate division of Harvard

[10:34] University in 1938 and 1939. Now you're

[10:37] thinking to yourself, well that's not a

[10:38] very representative sample. It's almost

[10:40] all white. It's it was all men in those

[10:43] days and it was people of you know above

[10:45] average means. So that doesn't really

[10:47] tell us anything. Well, don't worry

[10:49] because that sample was then later uh

[10:51] meshed up with another sample of people

[10:53] born in the same time frame who didn't

[10:55] go to college at all and so they were

[10:57] largely working-class background and

[10:59] then the study started to include the

[11:01] spouses and partners of these people and

[11:02] then it started to include the kids and

[11:04] now it's representative demographically

[11:07] is pretty good of the American

[11:08] population above and below average

[11:10] income um racially in terms of gender

[11:13] all this stuff. It actually kind of

[11:14] looks like America and it goes to the

[11:17] present, the late30s until the present.

[11:20] Now, there's some people in the samples

[11:22] that that didn't make it all the way

[11:23] through. John F. Kennedy was in the

[11:24] original sample because he was a

[11:26] sophomore at Harvard in 1938 or 1939.

[11:29] The sample that was from from from

[11:31] working-class people in Boston that was

[11:33] matched up to these people. It actually

[11:35] included the Boston strangler of all

[11:37] people who obviously didn't also make it

[11:39] to the end of the sample, but but most

[11:41] did. and and and they died over the

[11:43] course of the sample. There's there's

[11:44] there's a handful that are still alive,

[11:47] believe it or not, that have made it all

[11:48] the way through, but a lot of their

[11:50] spouses are still in and their kids are

[11:51] still in. The whole point is we get to

[11:53] track people over the course of their

[11:54] lives. It's super exciting and it's

[11:56] actually quite amazing what we're able

[11:58] to see. This is a crystal ball. What did

[12:00] people do when they were young that led

[12:02] to good outcomes and bad outcomes when

[12:03] they were old? Now, here's kind of how

[12:05] it works. You want to look at two

[12:08] quadrants of people when they're old. We

[12:10] call them happy well and and and that

[12:13] means that they're both happy about

[12:15] their lives and and we measure this in

[12:18] all the ways that happiness scientists

[12:19] do it. We say compare yourself to all of

[12:21] the people etc etc. We do it in a way

[12:24] that's that's psychometrically robust

[12:26] and and reliable and also well in terms

[12:29] of their physical health. So they're

[12:30] happy and healthy. The other group in

[12:32] the other extreme are people who are sad

[12:35] sick. The sad sick are low in happiness

[12:38] and and they're high in sickness. Now,

[12:39] of course, you could have the off

[12:40] quadrants here. You could be people who

[12:42] are happy and sick, and you could have

[12:43] people are sad and well, but there

[12:45] aren't very many people in those

[12:46] quadrants. Why? Because there's a hu by

[12:48] the time you're old, there's a huge

[12:50] correlation between being happy and

[12:52] living to be old relatively healthfully.

[12:55] Again, I've known people even in my own

[12:57] family that were pretty happy and pretty

[12:59] old, but not very healthy. But this is

[13:01] not the normal state of affairs. And

[13:02] besides, I know what you want. You want

[13:04] to avoid being sad and sick, and you

[13:06] want to be happy and well. Let's look at

[13:08] those two quadrants and that's what the

[13:09] research typically does. What are the

[13:12] practices of the people in these two

[13:13] groups? That's what I want to talk about

[13:16] now. Now, to begin with, there's a whole

[13:18] bunch of stuff you can't control that's

[13:19] going to put you in one of these two

[13:20] quadrants. So, and this is a big beef I

[13:23] have with a lot of the happiness

[13:24] science. A lot of the happiness science

[13:26] will be like, "Hey, you want to be

[13:27] happy? Be Danish." It's like, "Good.

[13:30] Thanks. Thanks. That's great. Make sure

[13:32] you've been already in a happy marriage

[13:34] for 40 years." Like, thanks. Great.

[13:36] Thanks. you got any news I can use? And

[13:38] that's where a lot of these kinds of

[13:40] data start. So, for example, in this

[13:43] Harvard study of adult development,

[13:46] wait, let me back up for a quick second.

[13:47] Let me let me give a little shout out to

[13:49] the people who run it. This there have

[13:50] only been three directors in the past 90

[13:54] years of the study. That's unbelievable.

[13:56] In academia, it's just completely

[13:58] unheard of. The guy who runs it right

[14:00] now is Robert Waldinger. He's a

[14:02] psychiatrist at the Harvard Medical

[14:04] School. He's also a psychoanalyst

[14:05] practicing has a clinical practice in

[14:07] patients and he's a Zen Buddhist priest.

[14:10] This is a really interesting guy. He

[14:12] guest lectures for me in my stud in my

[14:13] in my classes at Harvard. I've

[14:15] interviewed him in different contexts.

[14:17] He's a great scholar and an unbelievable

[14:20] author. His last book was called The

[14:22] Good Life, which was a big bestseller.

[14:24] He's just a lovely guy. He's a wonderful

[14:26] guy. Before him was another psychiatrist

[14:29] at Harvard Medical School named George

[14:30] Valiant, who also ran it for more than

[14:32] 30 years. So these guys are just

[14:35] visionary and they have this, you know,

[14:37] they have this just complete longevity

[14:39] in the way that they're in their own

[14:40] lives. They they're, you know, they're

[14:42] not kids either, but that they're

[14:43] running the study in such a wonderful

[14:45] way. They're an example of the kind of

[14:46] life that we want to lead and they're

[14:47] leading the study. Terrific stuff. Okay.

[14:50] Now, let's talk a little bit about the

[14:52] about the the things you can't control

[14:54] that are in the study. Number one is

[14:56] have a happy childhood. Well, thanks.

[14:59] Did you have a happy childhood? It's

[15:01] great. Great for you. bully for you as

[15:03] they say in Britain. But uh but you

[15:04] can't control that. Second is having

[15:06] long lived ancestors. Um yeah, I mean

[15:09] it's like I I remember thinking that

[15:11] seeing that and going yeah my dad died

[15:12] at 66, my mom uh died at 73. In today's

[15:16] world this this is not good longevity

[15:19] and and that's not great. The point is

[15:23] that we need to look at the things we

[15:24] can control, not the things we can't

[15:26] control. This is a really important

[15:28] thing to keep in mind across all the

[15:29] happiness science. I'm going to talk

[15:31] about this a little bit later, probably

[15:33] today, maybe in a later episode, that a

[15:36] lot of the happiness is actually that we

[15:38] that we enjoy. Our mood balance is

[15:40] actually genetic.

[15:42] But we can't fret about that. What we

[15:44] need to is look at the part that isn't

[15:46] genetic and manage our genetics better,

[15:49] right? By having good habits. This is so

[15:51] critically important. And let me make

[15:53] the case right now about how you can

[15:55] manage your own genetics, good or bad.

[15:57] Um, a lot of the the twin studies where

[16:01] twin identical twins are separated at

[16:03] birth and and and adopted into separate

[16:05] families. There's a bunch of these

[16:07] studies because that happened a lot

[16:08] between the mid1 1930s and mid1 1960s.

[16:10] This was not a social science experiment

[16:12] by diabolical scholars at Harvard

[16:14] University. I promise I promise you it

[16:17] just happened. And and then when they

[16:18] were reunited as adults and given

[16:20] personality tests, they found that a lot

[16:22] of stuff was genetic. A lot of things

[16:23] about their personalities, but a lot of

[16:24] things about their behaviors as well.

[16:26] For example, about half of your tendency

[16:28] toward alcohol abuse is genetic. But if

[16:30] you came to me and said, "H, mom and dad

[16:32] were drunks. All four of my grandparents

[16:35] drank drank too much. I'm doomed." I'd

[16:37] say, "Ah, you missed the step." Because

[16:39] I have a way to turn that genetic

[16:40] proclivity toward alcoholism to zero

[16:42] right now. What is it? What is it?

[16:44] What's the new technique? Don't drink.

[16:46] That's the technique. If you have it in

[16:48] your family and you don't do it, you're

[16:50] not going to become an alcoholic. And

[16:51] what that says is if you know your

[16:54] genetic tendency, you can pay more

[16:56] attention to your habits and you win.

[16:59] It's very important thing to understand

[17:01] and that's what what I'm really

[17:02] emphasizing here. Don't worry about the

[17:05] uncontrollable stuff. Only worry about

[17:07] the controllable things. And there's a

[17:08] bunch of controllable things. That's the

[17:10] point of this episode is the seven

[17:12] things that you can actually control

[17:13] that will make you happier now, happier

[17:15] later, and happiest when you're old.

[17:18] Okay? This stuff is gold for me and for

[17:20] you. So let's get started. What are the

[17:22] controllable habits? Number one, well

[17:25] actually talk about number one, two,

[17:26] three, and four because the first four

[17:29] are a lot about your physical health.

[17:31] Now a note on physical health. I do a

[17:33] lot of stuff on wellness because

[17:35] wellness and happiness are intimately

[17:37] intertwined. I'm going to do uh uh

[17:39] future episodes on diet, on exercise, on

[17:43] sleep, all this stuff. I'm really into

[17:45] it. I'm a absolute gym rat myself

[17:48] because I know this is super important

[17:50] for mood balance. And I'm going to talk

[17:52] about what the science says about that

[17:54] in the coming weeks. But for the

[17:56] meantime, I want you to remember that

[17:58] there's a reason I mentioned before that

[18:00] happy and well go together because when

[18:02] you're well, you are happier. Working on

[18:05] your health is super important for your

[18:07] happiness. Working on your happiness is

[18:09] super important for your health. So to

[18:11] get in the happy well category, this is

[18:13] not one or the other. This is both.

[18:15] starts with the four things you need to

[18:16] be thinking about with respect to your

[18:18] longevity and with respect to your basic

[18:20] health. They are smoking, drinking,

[18:23] diet, and exercise. Okay, I know, I

[18:25] know, I know. But let's start with the

[18:27] most obvious of all. Don't smoke. Don't

[18:30] smoke. Don't put smoke in your lungs.

[18:32] I'm mostly talking about cigarettes, but

[18:34] I'm also talking about other things that

[18:35] you might smoke. They're bad for your

[18:38] lungs, and that's bad for your health. I

[18:39] mean, it's it's it's kind of obvious at

[18:41] this point. Um, I remember I was a

[18:43] smoker in my 20s. I was a professional

[18:45] musician for a long time. Most musicians

[18:47] smoked in those days. Furthermore, I was

[18:49] playing in a in a symphony orchestra in

[18:51] Barcelona, Spain. And man, this the the

[18:53] the musicians lounge and the breaks and

[18:56] rehearsals, it was like it was

[18:57] completely full of smoke. Everybody was

[18:59] smoking all the time. And that was in

[19:01] the like late 1980s, which for most of

[19:04] you watching this episode, that's like

[19:06] were dinosaurs roaming the earth?

[19:09] No, but as a matter of fact, that that

[19:11] that was a long time ago, but we already

[19:12] knew that smoking was bad and and and I

[19:15] knew it. I knew it. Um and and I finally

[19:18] quit only because I set the bed on fire

[19:21] and um I was engaged and at the time and

[19:23] and I realized that it was one thing to

[19:26] kill myself with a stupid habit. It was

[19:27] something else to kill my wife to be

[19:30] with the stupid habit. So, I actually

[19:31] quit. But it was hard. It was a really

[19:33] hard thing to do. uh smoking is horrible

[19:36] for you obviously, but let me give you

[19:38] one statistic. You have a if you're a

[19:41] lifelong smoker of cigarettes, you have

[19:43] a 70% chance, seven and 10 chance of

[19:46] dying of a smoking related illness. And

[19:48] smoking related illnesses are horrible

[19:51] for your quality of life. They're

[19:52] painful and awful and they're avoidable,

[19:56] which means that you have a lot of

[19:57] unhappiness if you're dying of a smoking

[19:59] related illness. They will lower it will

[20:01] ru lower your quality of life. Stop

[20:03] smoking. That's number one. And that and

[20:05] again, I'm not trying to preach to you.

[20:07] I'm just telling you what the data say

[20:09] that people are are almost always in the

[20:12] sad sick category of the Harvard study

[20:15] of adult development over these decades

[20:17] if they're smokers. Second is

[20:19] substances. Now, this was in the early

[20:22] years of the study and and for until

[20:24] relatively recently really about

[20:25] drinking alcohol. Alcohol has has had a

[20:28] kind of metamorphosis in the public

[20:30] consciousness. It's pretty interesting

[20:32] for those of us who are in the wellness

[20:33] and and and happiness space that that

[20:35] young people drink less than their

[20:37] elders did. Many of you, if you're in

[20:40] your 20s and 30s, you drink less than

[20:42] your parents did. And part of that is

[20:44] because thinking has really changed. I

[20:46] mean, there's a time for people my age

[20:47] um where we all believe that one or two

[20:49] glasses of red wine a night was really

[20:51] good for you. And and that's not what

[20:52] the latest data say. I'm not saying

[20:54] don't drink at all. I'm I'm saying be

[20:56] conscious of what you're actually doing

[20:58] and and and basically pay attention to

[21:01] your habits. One of the things that we

[21:02] find that the study clearly finds is

[21:04] that euphoric substances in general and

[21:07] it's mostly alcohol in this sample that

[21:10] that they're neurotoxic, but they're

[21:13] also a relationship as you get more and

[21:15] more involved with them, especially if

[21:17] you become addicted. There's nothing for

[21:19] your happiness that's going to get

[21:20] better if you have a substance abuse

[21:23] problem. If you have a dependency on any

[21:25] euphoric substance, it's horrible for

[21:27] your happiness. As a matter of fact,

[21:28] that's the number one predictor of

[21:30] dissolution of marriage, your marriage

[21:32] will fall apart. Generally speaking, if

[21:34] you're an addict and you're rolling the

[21:36] dice if you have any of this in your

[21:38] family or you have any tendency in that

[21:40] you have noticed in yourself. So, here's

[21:42] what it comes down to. If you want to

[21:44] get happier as you get older as opposed

[21:45] to unhappier as you get older. If you

[21:48] want your last decades of life to be

[21:49] your best decades of life, but you just

[21:51] want a progression of happiness, which

[21:53] you deserve, by the way, you need just

[21:56] be extremely assiduous

[21:59] about the way that you look at your own

[22:01] substance use. Now, people make all

[22:03] kinds of different decisions in their

[22:04] lives. I'm not judging anything. There

[22:07] have been times when I haven't driven

[22:08] the safest car. I've also had near-death

[22:11] experiences. I had somebody hit me in my

[22:13] Alfa Romeo last year at 65 miles an hour

[22:15] on the freeway and that was a really

[22:17] really scary couple of seconds in there.

[22:19] Car performed well, total the car, ended

[22:22] up off the road and and and I went home

[22:24] and and and Esther said, um, you need a

[22:27] bigger car. But in much the same way,

[22:29] you can have an experience that that

[22:32] reminds you of what you're trying to do

[22:34] with your life with respect to any other

[22:36] decision that you make, including

[22:37] including substances. So, so interrogate

[22:40] your use of alcohol and other and other

[22:43] substances in your life. That's what

[22:45] this would say. And here's a couple of

[22:48] rules you might consider. If you have

[22:50] any substance abuse in your family or

[22:52] you have any doubts in your own life,

[22:55] stop. Just stop. You're never going to

[22:58] look back on your life and say, "You

[22:59] know what? I wish I'd gotten drunk

[23:01] more." I I don't know anybody who's ever

[23:03] said that. And there will be a lot of

[23:06] regret potentially if you don't. So if

[23:08] you wonder, kick it out. Number three is

[23:13] is diet and and maintaining a a basic

[23:16] healthy body weight. And and there's a

[23:18] lot of debate about, you know, what's

[23:20] healthy and what's not healthy, what's

[23:22] too much, what's too little. There's a

[23:24] lot of lead eating disorder literature

[23:26] um on the internet in the health and

[23:27] wellness space that I inhabit. You know,

[23:29] I see a lot of people that have a um

[23:32] really unhealthy behaviors with respect

[23:34] to body dysmorphia. They're comparing

[23:36] themselves to people that have

[23:38] dangerously low levels of body fat, for

[23:40] example. I mean, what a weird problem

[23:42] that we should actually have in our

[23:44] society where they're kind of we're on

[23:46] the extreme so much on these types of

[23:48] things. Here's kind of what it comes

[23:49] down to. The happiest, healthiest people

[23:51] in old age are not extreme in what they

[23:54] do. And they maintain a basic healthy

[23:57] body weight without yo-yo diets. They're

[24:01] not kind of going up and down and up and

[24:02] down and up and down. I've written about

[24:03] this myself. You know, people who gain a

[24:06] lot of weight and then they lose a lot

[24:07] of weight quickly. You find if you go on

[24:09] a very, very strong diet, especially a

[24:11] very restrictive diet, you have about a

[24:12] 30% chance of winding up with an eating

[24:15] disorder. And there's a psychological

[24:17] reason for this, which is this. We love

[24:19] progress as human beings. We love

[24:21] progress. Progress is the best. And and

[24:24] the result of of the reward for making

[24:27] progress in a diet is seeing the scale

[24:29] go down a little bit. You're willing to

[24:31] forego all kinds of food that you like.

[24:33] To see that scale go down. It's just so

[24:35] satisfying. But there's a problem. When

[24:37] you hit your goal, you hit your weight

[24:39] goal. You know what your you know what

[24:41] your reward is? You never get to eat

[24:43] what you like ever again for the rest of

[24:45] your life. Congratulations. Enjoy.

[24:47] Right? I mean that's the reason that

[24:48] these things are they often the diets so

[24:51] often fail. They have something like a

[24:52] 95% failure rate but but also people who

[24:55] achieve this often keep going and that's

[24:57] what turns into an eating disorder. So

[24:59] the whole point is and what the study

[25:01] really shows is people who are pretty

[25:02] relaxed about this but eat in a healthy

[25:05] way and they eat healthier as they get

[25:07] older without going up and down and up

[25:09] and down and up and down. So this is

[25:10] really the goal on this one is learning

[25:13] how to eat in a way that's intuitive and

[25:16] extremely healthy etc. And that's the

[25:18] goal to be a healthy person, not to look

[25:21] a certain way on the internet. Okay? Uh

[25:25] and and and again, I'm not preaching to

[25:26] just young people. There a lot of lot of

[25:28] people my age that really struggle with

[25:30] this a lot. Number four is exercise. And

[25:33] that's just what it comes down to. It's

[25:34] interesting because what the what the

[25:36] researchers say for this one to get

[25:37] happy and well when you're old is

[25:39] prioritizing movement. Now, my friend

[25:41] Dan Butner, I talked about him in the

[25:42] first episode of the show. He did the

[25:44] blue zones and what he found is all the

[25:46] places where people that live to be over

[25:48] a hundred is also the places where

[25:50] people tend to be really happy when

[25:51] they're older kind of like this study

[25:53] they're always walking around just

[25:55] walking around all the time he's in

[25:56] Sardinia and Okinawa Lom Linda

[25:59] California and they're all like you know

[26:01] walking walking walking they're walking

[26:02] every place they're walking with each

[26:03] other and that's really kind of the

[26:05] thing walking ambulation is the human

[26:08] exercise of happiness is what it comes

[26:09] down to um almost every major religion

[26:12] has pilgrimages I've walked the commino

[26:14] to Santiago, which is this, you know,

[26:16] several hundred kilometer pilgrim.

[26:18] Sorry, for you Americans, that's that's

[26:20] miles across northern Spain with my

[26:23] beloved. I've done it twice. I've done

[26:25] just the last eight days twice. I I try

[26:28] to do the 33-day, 800 kilometer walk and

[26:31] and Esther's like, "No, no, enjoy it.

[26:33] Send me a postcard." Uh so so she's

[26:36] agreed. She's signed up for the the

[26:38] 8-day versions. But this extraordinary

[26:40] it's wonderful. And we try to take a

[26:42] kind of a prayerful walk every night

[26:43] after dinner. And part of it is because

[26:45] we've seen this research. Walk, walk,

[26:46] walk, walk. You're going to be a happier

[26:48] person is what it comes down to. But

[26:50] part of it is also that this is

[26:51] something that's deeply tied in to to to

[26:55] meditation. Most serious religious

[26:58] traditions have something that's called

[27:00] walking meditation. And and you can do

[27:02] this and at the same time you get

[27:04] happier and you get healthier, but this

[27:06] is also ergonomically completely sound.

[27:08] it. You're not likely to get hurt. Most

[27:11] people can do it. Now, on top of that,

[27:13] all other kinds of exercise are great.

[27:14] I've written columns and I'll I'll make

[27:16] sure we post to the to the uh the notes.

[27:20] Exercise that that lowers your stress.

[27:22] Yoga and flexibility really good for

[27:24] that. For example, um that that raise

[27:27] raises your sense of self-esteem. And

[27:30] and again, I'm not a big self-esteem

[27:31] guy, but there are times when you need

[27:32] to feel better about yourself. And

[27:34] resistance training is absolutely great

[27:36] for that. Weightlifting is fantastic for

[27:37] that. for lowering levels of sadness and

[27:40] anxiety. Zone two cardio fantastic for

[27:42] that. So just be I mean just be an

[27:44] active person. Don't be a maniac about

[27:46] it. Don't be completely dogmatic about

[27:48] it. There are times in my life where

[27:50] because I'm such a gym rat. I mean I'm

[27:52] in the gym 60 minutes a day and I've

[27:53] done that almost seven days a week for

[27:55] decades where I can be like a little bit

[27:57] too freaked out about it when I'm

[27:59] missing it because of travel ordinarily

[28:01] is the case. But be an active person.

[28:04] Prioritize movement. That's habit four.

[28:07] Okay. Okay, so those are the big four

[28:08] that we're talking about with respect to

[28:11] your body and your mind. But the last

[28:13] three are are a little less intuitive.

[28:15] Five, six, and seven. Habit number five

[28:18] is practicing active coping and getting

[28:22] good at your coping mechanism. Here's

[28:25] the deal. Life's hard. Hey, news flash.

[28:28] Arthur Brooks told me life is hard.

[28:30] You're going to have negative

[28:31] experiences regularly. That's what life

[28:35] entails. That's that's life on planet

[28:37] Earth. You're going to have regular

[28:39] negative emotions. Now, a lot of people

[28:41] are taught that when they're having

[28:42] negative emotions, something's wrong

[28:44] that there's something there's a

[28:45] pathology. They're broken in some way.

[28:48] That's craziness. That's if you're not

[28:50] sad and anxious a lot, then you really

[28:52] need therapy. And the reason you have

[28:55] negative emotions is your li the lyic

[28:57] system of your brain the consolar tissue

[28:59] that was formed between 2 and 40 million

[29:00] years ago. It was created so that it

[29:04] would react to outside circumstances and

[29:06] you would react in the right way. You'd

[29:08] make decisions in the correct way on the

[29:10] basis of a stimuli that your brain is

[29:12] experiencing. When you're having

[29:13] negative emotions, it means that you

[29:15] have perceived a threat, which is an

[29:17] indication there's something you should

[29:18] avoid. That's what negative emotions are

[29:20] all about. You're going to have them all

[29:22] the time. 16% of the average person's

[29:25] day is spent in predominantly ne

[29:27] negative emotion. Now, you know, for

[29:30] people like me who are really high in

[29:32] both positive and negative uh affect,

[29:34] that's a future episode of this show to

[29:36] figure out what your affect profile,

[29:38] your emotional profile is. I promise

[29:40] you're going to take a test to do that

[29:41] if you keep watching the show. For me,

[29:43] it's more than 16%. But that's natural.

[29:46] That's normal. The key thing is you got

[29:49] to have a way not to eliminate it. Don't

[29:51] try to eliminate your sadness. Try to

[29:53] manage your sadness and learn from your

[29:55] sadness. That's the trick. And you need

[29:58] your way to do it. You need to get

[30:00] really good at it. Happy old people all

[30:03] have their technique. There's super

[30:06] secret way to do it. It turns out they

[30:07] all fall in a certain set of of of

[30:11] categories. Again, coming up in the in

[30:13] the in the in the weeks to the weeks

[30:15] ahead, you're going to get those

[30:16] techniques. You're going to get a whole

[30:18] bunch of different techniques for to do

[30:19] something called metaccognition, which

[30:22] is moving your emotional experiences

[30:24] from the lyic system into your

[30:25] prefrontal cortex into your executive

[30:27] centers where you can manage your

[30:29] emotions and they don't manage you. But

[30:31] you got to be good at one of those

[30:32] things. Some people get really really

[30:34] good at therapy. Believe it or not, if

[30:36] you're going to have if you're going to

[30:37] be have find therapy effective in your

[30:40] life, you need to be good at it. You

[30:42] need to have a lot of skill as a

[30:43] patient. And many people are. Other

[30:45] people are really good at meditation.

[30:47] Some people are excellent at prayer. But

[30:49] here's the deal. Be serious about your

[30:52] technique. Journaling, do it a lot. Get

[30:54] really good at it. The happy well people

[30:57] all have their thing. So stay tuned in

[31:01] the coming weeks so I can tell you what

[31:02] the suite of things are that you can get

[31:04] good at where you can manage your life's

[31:07] travails and turn them from a lot of

[31:10] suffering and sadness into sources of

[31:12] learning and growth. That's coming.

[31:14] Okay. Number six, learning. Happy well

[31:18] people are learners. Learning is it's a

[31:20] beautiful thing. Um pos I just talked

[31:23] about negative emotions. Positive

[31:24] emotions include interest. Interest is a

[31:28] positive basic emotion. We love to

[31:31] learn. Your ancestors passed on their

[31:32] genes because they learned a lot and got

[31:35] better at life. Now maybe 250,000 years

[31:38] ago the learning was not I mean

[31:39] obviously it was not reading books.

[31:41] 250,000 years ago, it was figuring out

[31:43] the watering hole that has had a lot of

[31:45] gazels around it or or where the berries

[31:48] were on the bush out there someplace so

[31:50] they could get food, forage and pass on

[31:53] their genes, survive the winter um and

[31:56] you were born some, you know, hundred

[31:58] generations later. Fine. The point is

[32:02] that they had to be rewarded for that

[32:03] neurocognitively.

[32:05] The evolutionary psychology is very

[32:07] clear that if you if something is good

[32:09] for the fitness of your genes, if

[32:12] something's going to help you pass on

[32:13] your genes, it has to get you have to

[32:15] have an incentive to do it. A and one of

[32:17] the ways that we have an incentive to

[32:19] learn is that it gives you intense

[32:21] positive emotion for doing so. That's

[32:23] why in point of fact, interest itself is

[32:26] a basic positive emotion. We love to

[32:28] learn. It gives us this joy to learn. So

[32:32] what does that mean? That means that

[32:33] you're going to be happy and well if

[32:34] you're a habitual learner. The people in

[32:36] the sad sick category, they tend to be

[32:38] people who stopped learning in in in

[32:41] early adulthood. Really stop learning.

[32:43] They don't read books. They don't learn

[32:45] new stuff. They're set in their ways.

[32:47] They don't you know what they don't do?

[32:49] They don't interrogate their own

[32:52] beliefs. You know, one of the best ways

[32:54] to keep learning is to take an inventory

[32:56] of all the things that you believe and

[32:57] say, "Is that true?" And you know, maybe

[33:00] go away from time to time, you know, for

[33:02] half a day or something or go for a nice

[33:04] long walk and make a list of all of your

[33:06] beliefs. Say, do I still think that?

[33:08] What do the data say? Also, interrogate

[33:11] your unbeliefs. A lot of what we do and

[33:13] how we define ourselves is in terms of

[33:16] the way of the things that we don't

[33:17] believe. I, you know, I don't I never

[33:19] vote for any politicians. I vote against

[33:21] politicians or, you know, my parents had

[33:23] this belief growing up and and and I

[33:26] walked away from I don't believe that

[33:27] anymore. interrogate your unbelief. This

[33:30] is a learning experience about the

[33:32] serious business of you and it'll it'll

[33:34] give you an incentive to to go look for

[33:37] big new things. It's so awesome. You're

[33:39] going to love it. As a matter of fact,

[33:40] be a lifelong learner. Now, the easiest

[33:42] way to do that is always be reading a

[33:45] book. There's always a book that you're

[33:46] reading. I'm always working on

[33:48] something. Now, a lot of it is because

[33:50] this is what I do for a living and and I

[33:52] I'm I'm I'm about ideas and so I always

[33:56] need to learn new things, but the stuff

[33:57] is blowing my mind constantly. And it's

[34:00] a really good idea to to read outside

[34:02] your silo. If you read If you like to

[34:04] read novels, also read biographies. If

[34:06] you like to read biographies, also read

[34:08] science. If you like to read science,

[34:11] read more fiction. That kind of thing.

[34:13] But learning, learning, learning by

[34:14] reading, reading, reading is a good way

[34:16] to do it. Now, if you're not a reading

[34:18] learner, which some people aren't, a lot

[34:19] of people who have been diagnosed with

[34:21] children with ADHD, they learn a lot

[34:23] more by hearing and watching, but then

[34:25] use technology for exactly that. Don't

[34:28] use technology to to to fritter away

[34:30] your time. That's a dumb use of your

[34:32] time. Always be using your time, your

[34:35] free time to be learning propulsively.

[34:37] And that means make a list of the things

[34:39] that you want to learn and then start

[34:40] marching through it. The most

[34:42] astonishing thing about YouTube, for

[34:44] example, is that you type something in

[34:46] that you want to learn about, you're

[34:47] going to get a serious scholar on that

[34:49] if you look for it. You can also get a

[34:51] charlatan,

[34:52] but be a, you know, be discerning in the

[34:55] people that you're actually watching.

[34:56] And it's it's it's actually incredible

[34:59] how much easier it is to learn in the

[35:00] past. But that has to be a priority in

[35:02] your life if you want to get older and

[35:04] happier at the same time. Okay, that's

[35:08] one through six. Now, the biggie. I've

[35:10] saved the best for last. Number seven.

[35:12] This is the one, folks. This is the one

[35:14] that you really want.

[35:16] Love.

[35:18] You probably knew I was going to say

[35:19] that if you followed my work. Um, and

[35:21] and the reason is this. The guy who ran

[35:24] the study before Bob Walding or the

[35:26] Harvard study of adult development that

[35:28] all of this is based on is George

[35:30] Valiant. George Valiant ran the study

[35:32] and he actually wrote an article. It's

[35:33] going into the show notes. It's a an

[35:36] article in the American Journal of

[35:37] Psychiatry that was published in 2001

[35:39] called Successful Aging. And that's

[35:42] where these seven habits were enumerated

[35:44] was in that article. So go read the

[35:46] original article. It's it's a great

[35:47] read. You're you you'll really enjoy it.

[35:49] George Valiant was asked after he wrote

[35:51] that article in a couple of best-selling

[35:53] books about getting happier as you get

[35:54] older. Just sum up all of it, you know,

[35:57] give me a couple of words that I can

[35:58] remember. What's the bumper sticker for

[36:00] the Harvard study of adult development?

[36:02] He said, and I quote, "Happiness is

[36:04] love. Full stop." I mean, it's not

[36:07] happiness is quitting smoking, full

[36:09] stop. That's important. That's one of

[36:11] the seven habits. But the biggie is

[36:12] habit seven, which is love

[36:14] relationships. You're not going to be in

[36:17] the happy well category, friends, if you

[36:20] don't have serious, real love

[36:22] relationships. And you're not going to

[36:24] get them mysteriously for the first time

[36:26] in your life when you're 90. It's not

[36:29] going to happen. You need to make that

[36:31] investment starting today. Now, I know

[36:33] what you're asking. What kind? Love is a

[36:36] very blunt word in English. We don't

[36:40] have a good language for love. The

[36:41] Greeks talk about love. And the Greeks

[36:44] really had a great vocabulary for love.

[36:46] As a matter of fact, I mean, the two

[36:48] languages that I live my life and my

[36:50] home life in are English and Spanish.

[36:51] English has love. Spanish is amar and

[36:55] and those are two different verbs for

[36:56] it, which is a little bit better. But

[36:59] Greek has seven seven different words

[37:02] for love. I mean you think of you think

[37:04] of aeros which is romantic love. You

[37:07] think of filia which is friendship. You

[37:10] think of agape which is divine love for

[37:13] God. But there's four more. The whole

[37:15] point is that it can be kind of

[37:17] dissected and split apart in different

[37:19] ways and and the whole point is having

[37:21] this magnificent portfolio of love in

[37:26] your life. The more that you have the

[37:27] better off you're going to be. Now,

[37:28] there's especially two kinds of

[37:30] relationships that are characteristic of

[37:32] being happy and old. Um, happy and well

[37:34] when you're old, I should say. You don't

[37:37] need both. You need one. Both is great,

[37:39] but you need one. Number one is a

[37:43] stable, long-term happy marriage. Okay?

[37:47] Or stable, long-term happy friendships.

[37:51] Okay? So, you can be you can have a

[37:53] series of unfortunate romances and wind

[37:56] up single when you're old and still be

[37:58] just as happy and be in that quadrant,

[38:00] but you have to have super deep

[38:01] friendships. Or you can actually not

[38:05] have as many close friends as you should

[38:07] and would like to, but have a very very

[38:09] good marriage. But you got to have one

[38:10] or the other. And it's even better if

[38:11] you've got both obviously. I mean, it's

[38:13] multiplicative is the whole point. But

[38:14] my whole point is not to tell you that

[38:17] if marriage doesn't work out for you

[38:18] that you can't be happy. No, friendships

[38:21] are great, too, but you need one of

[38:22] these two things. Now, I'll talk in

[38:25] future episodes because this is a whole

[38:27] thing. And one of the major areas that I

[38:29] study is the success of romantic

[38:31] relationships. How to how to fall in

[38:33] love and stay in love. That's the most

[38:35] popular unit of my MBA class at Harvard

[38:38] is literally called falling in love and

[38:40] staying in love. That deserves its whole

[38:42] episode u multiple episodes, seasons on

[38:46] that because it's super interesting and

[38:48] super cool and super fun. the whole

[38:49] thing. Let me say just to say a minute

[38:51] on friendship and I'll do episodes on

[38:53] friendship in the future as well. The

[38:55] problem that a lot of people have who've

[38:58] had really good lives on paper but wind

[38:59] up sad and sick is that they have

[39:02] friends but they're deal friends. You

[39:05] know, friendships of transaction,

[39:07] friendships of convenience. And there's

[39:09] nothing wrong with friendships of

[39:11] convenience. These are the people at

[39:12] work who they don't know what your kids'

[39:14] names are, but but you know, they like

[39:16] you as soon as their work finishes. So

[39:19] does the friendship is the problem. What

[39:21] you need is less deal and more real in

[39:23] your friendships. Real friends love you.

[39:26] Real friends are not useful. They're

[39:29] they're useless. They're cosmically

[39:31] beautifully useless. Not worthless.

[39:34] They're useless in this that there's

[39:36] that in in Greek you'd say they don't

[39:38] have a tilos. They're atelic. They don't

[39:41] have this the kind of worldly purpose to

[39:44] them. And I've got a few friends like

[39:45] this that I just love and and it

[39:47] wouldn't matter what I do for a living.

[39:49] You know, they don't need me for

[39:51] something in their jobs and I don't need

[39:53] them for something in my job. We just

[39:54] love each other and we're going to text

[39:56] each other. I have a friend who texts me

[39:59] he's not my religion and he texts me

[40:02] holy verses from his own religion which

[40:04] just I love. It's beautiful. I learn and

[40:06] it's wonderful and and and I value that

[40:09] so much and I'm so grateful for it. But

[40:11] that's the characteristic of those of

[40:13] that people in the in the healthy well

[40:15] who are basing that love on friendship.

[40:17] That's what they have in common. Okay.

[40:18] Now, why do I tell you this? You got to

[40:20] start that now. Real friendships don't

[40:22] start like in the nick of time. You're

[40:24] not on your deathbed and form a real

[40:26] friendship and say see you and check

[40:28] out. It takes a lot of work actually. It

[40:31] takes commitment. It takes it takes uh

[40:34] investment. So that's what it comes down

[40:36] to. Happiness is love. Love is

[40:38] happiness. Full stop.

[40:40] That's really what we're talking about

[40:42] on how you can get happier as you get

[40:44] older. Okay, let me sum up here. And I

[40:46] know you've seen the captions so far.

[40:48] Habit number one, don't smoke. Hab habit

[40:52] number two, careful with substances.

[40:55] Habit number three is is proper diet.

[40:59] Habit number four, prioritize movement.

[41:03] Happy uh happiness habit number five,

[41:06] practice coping.

[41:08] Have your coping practice, you might

[41:09] say. Number six, keep learning. Number

[41:13] seven, happiness is love. That's what it

[41:16] comes down to. That's your big seven. Do

[41:18] those things, you're not going to be

[41:20] unhappy. Now, there's one thing I would

[41:21] add to it that he didn't study very much

[41:23] in this in in these data, which is your

[41:26] spiritual life. And and part of the

[41:28] reason that's not in the list, that's

[41:30] not number eight, is because that wasn't

[41:31] a priority of this research, but it is a

[41:33] priority of my research. So, I'm going

[41:36] to come back to that. That's my number

[41:38] eight is prioritize a spiritual or

[41:41] philosophical life if you're not

[41:43] religious. What does that mean? Future

[41:46] episode, but prioritize that as well.

[41:48] So, we'll add that as my as Arthur's

[41:50] number eight to these top seven. We

[41:52] don't have much time left, but we do

[41:54] have time for some questions because the

[41:55] questions are phenomenal. The questions

[41:57] are so great. So, I want to take three.

[41:59] I want to take three. Now, this first

[42:01] one is from Lelay Maruela. Um, and Lei

[42:05] wrote in on Spotify. Thanks. Thanks, Le,

[42:07] for writing in. How does uh what makes

[42:11] people happy vary as people get older?

[42:13] It's a good question for this. In other

[42:14] words, is what makes you happy when

[42:16] you're 25 the same thing it makes you

[42:18] happy when you're 55? Uh the answer is

[42:20] yes and no. The yeses are all pretty

[42:23] obvious. You want love when you're 25.

[42:25] You want love when you're 55, but you

[42:27] want love from different people at 25

[42:28] than at 55. For and when you're 25, you

[42:31] want your mom's love probably. When

[42:32] you're 55, it's very likely that mom's

[42:34] not around. And so that's there's going

[42:35] to be a changing of the guard by the

[42:37] time you're 55. I hope mom is still

[42:40] around, but by the time I was 55, my

[42:41] parents were long gone. Um, so there's

[42:44] some of that. There's just the natural

[42:45] things that happen with age. But love is

[42:48] going to be something that you need.

[42:49] Something else that's actually kind of

[42:51] different, by the way, is that you'll be

[42:53] on average better self-managing

[42:56] emotionally at 55 than you are at 25.

[42:57] You just are. And here's a really

[42:59] interesting thing. As you get older, you

[43:02] will find that you have the same

[43:03] negative and basic and positive emotions

[43:06] as when you were a young adult. And

[43:08] that's because the lyic system is the

[43:09] same. It doesn't change. And emotions

[43:11] are not there to give you a nice or

[43:12] crummy day. Emotions are there to give

[43:14] you a signal that something as a threat

[43:17] or an opportunity has crossed your

[43:18] horizon. So, you should avoid it or you

[43:20] should approach it. That's all emotions

[43:22] are. Are the strategic warning or alert

[43:25] system for you. But here's the thing

[43:27] that does change. You learn as you get

[43:30] older that emotions don't last. When

[43:32] you're 25 and somebody breaks up with

[43:33] you, you're like, I'm going to be sad

[43:34] forever. Or you think when you're 25

[43:37] often, if I get that job, I'm going to

[43:40] be so happy forever. And the answer is

[43:42] no, you're not in both cases because

[43:44] emotions can't last. They can't last

[43:46] because homeostatically, which means you

[43:49] have to go back into your equilibrium.

[43:51] You have to be ready for the next

[43:52] emotions because emotions keep you alive

[43:54] and surviving. They're supposed to give

[43:56] you information about what's going on

[43:58] right now, not what happened 10 years

[44:00] ago. I mean, sometimes you get a sweet

[44:02] or bitter memory, but that's kind of it.

[44:04] What you figure out as you get older

[44:06] that emotions don't last, even though

[44:08] mother nature tells you that they're

[44:10] going to so that you'll react

[44:12] appropriately. This is one of mother

[44:13] nature's tricks. Mother nature says,

[44:15] "You're going to be sad forever, so you

[44:17] better avoid that circumstance." Or,

[44:19] "You're going to love it forever if you

[44:20] get that gazelle. You're going to be so

[44:22] happy forever." She's lying to you so

[44:24] that you'll stay in the hunt, but you're

[44:26] not. And when you're my age or 20 years

[44:29] older than me, you've got that figured

[44:31] out. And so, somebody cuts you off in

[44:33] traffic and flips you the bird or

[44:35] something, it bums you out when you're

[44:37] my age for like a minute because the

[44:41] next thought that crosses your mind when

[44:43] you're my age is, you know, that's not

[44:45] going to bother me in an hour. So, I'm

[44:47] going to get a head start on not caring

[44:49] right now. Now the reason I say that Lei

[44:52] is that you can use that information

[44:54] now. You can move that into your

[44:55] prefrontal cortex and manage your

[44:58] emotions by understanding something that

[45:00] took me decades to actually figure out

[45:02] through experience. So that's one of the

[45:04] ways that happiness changes over time as

[45:05] well. The other thing I'll mention is

[45:08] that the enjoyment part of happiness

[45:09] remember happiness is enjoyment

[45:11] satisfaction and meaning that the

[45:13] enjoyment part changes because your

[45:15] sophistication about the things about

[45:16] which you get enjoyment changes. You

[45:19] know, if you like to have a glass of

[45:20] wine when you're 25, it's probably not

[45:22] the same wine you're going to like when

[45:24] you're 45 and have a little bit more

[45:26] experience with wine and a little bit

[45:28] more and a little bit more money. You're

[45:31] going to like you're going to say, "Oh,

[45:32] that stuff was rot gut." And you're not

[45:34] going to like it. Now, again, go back to

[45:37] uh habit number two from the seven

[45:38] habits. At 45, you might have cut out

[45:41] all the wine at that point, which is not

[45:43] bad for your happiness, quite frankly,

[45:44] but you get my point, right? you tend to

[45:47] have a higher sophistication in music as

[45:50] you get older just because you've

[45:51] listened to more music and your

[45:52] education changes. That's kind of how

[45:54] happiness changes. Great question.

[45:57] Question number two, this is from Nick

[45:59] Dagghastino, also from from Spotify.

[46:01] Thanks Nick for your question. Is

[46:02] happiness relative? Do happy people all

[46:05] experience life with the same level of

[46:07] enjoyment or does it vary? And the

[46:09] answer is, yeah, there's a lot of

[46:12] difference between people. And that gets

[46:13] back to the genetics I talked about

[46:15] earlier in this episode. 50% of your

[46:18] baseline mood, this is how you feel when

[46:20] you first kind of wake up in the morning

[46:21] most days, um, it's genetic. And we know

[46:24] that from the identical twins where they

[46:26] they rate their happiness. And and you

[46:28] find that 50% of how you mostly wake up

[46:31] and what you go back to, um, after, you

[46:33] know, being moved in and out of your

[46:35] baseline by varying circumstances across

[46:38] the day. that that's a genetic thing. I

[46:40] mean, your your mom or dad or whatever

[46:42] account for it a lot. I've mentioned it

[46:44] before in this in this show. Um, that's

[46:47] actually my problem. You know, I have

[46:48] kind of I come from very gloomy stock

[46:51] and so I got to work harder on on my

[46:54] habits because I need to manage my

[46:55] genetics. Exactly what I talked about in

[46:57] the case of substance abuse earlier in

[46:59] the episode. So, do people all

[47:01] experience life with the same level of

[47:03] enjoyment, satisfaction, and meaning?

[47:04] Nope. They have different tendencies.

[47:07] And that means some people aka me and

[47:10] some of you have to work harder on our

[47:12] habits. And that's a blessing. You and I

[47:14] are held to a higher standard. And

[47:16] that's what has to make us elite

[47:18] happiness athletes. That's what has to

[47:21] make us good at this better habits. And

[47:24] when people admire you for doing that,

[47:26] then they're going to copy these habits

[47:28] and they're going to get happier. And

[47:29] that's your apostlate. That's your

[47:31] mission. Congratulations. It's harder

[47:33] for you and that means you're going to

[47:34] do better at it. Okay. Number three is

[47:36] from Stephanie Baines. She she wrote in

[47:38] to office hours atarththurbrooks.com.

[47:40] Here's the email address. There's the

[47:42] email address right in. Thanks,

[47:44] Stephanie.

[47:45] She says, uh, I recent Oh, this is a

[47:48] good one. And I got to read the

[47:49] question. It's going to take a second. I

[47:51] accepted a new position just recently.

[47:53] I'll be commuting a long distance every

[47:54] day. Stephanie's going to have a two

[47:56] plus hour eachway

[47:59] commute. That's a lot of commuting

[48:02] daily. daily.

[48:04] Uh, moving is not an option. I've done

[48:07] this commute before and I'm hoping to

[48:08] figure out how to increase happiness on

[48:10] this commute. I remember you saying,

[48:13] she's followed my work for a while. You

[48:15] can't decrease unhappiness by increasing

[48:17] happiness. The is the only answer really

[48:20] just removing the commute? Do I turn

[48:22] down the job? Okay, great question. Um,

[48:25] commutes are brutal. And the reason I

[48:27] know this is from a study that I'll put

[48:29] in the show notes. This is from uh Conan

[48:31] and Krueger. uh from 2004 2005 in the

[48:36] the

[48:38] memory serves the proceedings of the

[48:39] National Academy of Sciences journal uh

[48:41] it's going in the show notes if I got

[48:42] that wrong and what they found was that

[48:44] commuting was one of the the the the

[48:46] things that people do every day that

[48:48] brings the most negative a effect so

[48:50] living close to work won't bring you

[48:52] happiness but living far away from work

[48:54] generally speaking will bring you more

[48:55] unhappiness and so that Stephanie I know

[48:57] that this is a great job and that this

[48:59] great job you know you're going to earn

[49:00] your success and serve others going be

[49:02] great. It's going to raise your

[49:03] happiness. It's going to raise your

[49:04] happiness. But the commute's going to

[49:06] raise your unhappiness

[49:08] unless you manage the negative a effect

[49:11] that that brings very very proposively.

[49:14] Okay. What this has to be going forward

[49:18] is not you know unfortunately I have two

[49:20] hours each way. It has to be I get two

[49:23] hours each way to do very specific

[49:26] things that I want to do with my life.

[49:29] That's what it has to come down to.

[49:31] Those two hours are work hours in the

[49:33] business of Stephaness. Okay, that's

[49:36] really important. And here's what I

[49:38] recommend. And here's this is based on

[49:39] the research and also my experience. I

[49:42] would recommend doing three things in

[49:44] your commute. And that means your

[49:45] commute time is precious time. Don't

[49:48] don't fritter it away. Don't listen to,

[49:51] you know, a podcast you're not

[49:52] interested in. Listen to this podcast.

[49:54] No, but do don't don't waste it

[49:57] listening to dumb, you know, drive time

[49:59] radio, which is mostly stupid ads. Don't

[50:02] do it. Here's number one. Number one is

[50:05] contemplation, meditation or prayer. And

[50:08] again, not the kind of contemplation

[50:09] that you know, single point meditation

[50:11] that puts you into a trance and then

[50:13] that's dangerous for traffic, but you

[50:15] get the point. Something that actually

[50:17] puts you into a meditative space that is

[50:19] your thing. For me, I pray the rosary,

[50:21] which is an ancient Catholic uh

[50:23] meditation. When I have to do something

[50:24] that entails a long drive, and there

[50:26] have been times when I have, you know, a

[50:28] half an hour commute or something, the

[50:29] first 20 minutes are my rosary. So, I

[50:31] use that time, which is really, really

[50:33] beneficial, something that is me and

[50:35] that I want to do. Really important to

[50:37] me. So, find your contemplative

[50:39] tradition that starts your commute.

[50:41] Okay. Morning, evening, maybe both.

[50:44] Second, calls. I mean, this is the great

[50:47] thing. I mean, the hands-free technology

[50:48] that we got now is just so good. And

[50:50] there's a lot of research that shows

[50:52] that that really in a lot of ways that

[50:54] calling is better for your communication

[50:56] than than even Zoom for lots of

[50:58] different reasons. I won't go maybe I'll

[51:00] go into it in a future episode, but but

[51:01] suffice it to say that that hands-free

[51:03] technology, calling, talking to somebody

[51:05] when you're in the phone, uh when you're

[51:06] in the car, can be very actually quite

[51:08] intimate, but you got to program those

[51:10] things. Number one is there's going to

[51:11] be some calls for work usually on the

[51:13] way home and on the way in. That's your

[51:15] real friends. program it so that you're

[51:18] doing it at the same time as somebody

[51:19] else and you're on a schedule so it's

[51:21] not serendipitous. You're not going

[51:22] through your entire book and hoping

[51:24] somebody's in. So make sure that you've

[51:26] got a good, you know, half hour slot on

[51:28] most days. This is a great way to deepen

[51:32] your real friendships because you're

[51:33] programming your commuting time to do

[51:35] just that. Me and my buddy Frank, we

[51:37] talk when we're on we're in the car a

[51:39] lot. It's great. And you know, he lives

[51:40] in Atlanta and and I don't live in

[51:42] Atlanta, but we talk to each other a lot

[51:45] because that's when we're actually using

[51:46] our time. And number three is learning,

[51:48] learning, learning, learning. That's the

[51:50] biggest part of it is going to be books

[51:52] and podcasts on the things that you

[51:53] really care about. Books is great

[51:55] because you can make a list of the books

[51:56] that you want to read. You Spotify is

[51:58] fantastic for this. Spotify has a huge

[52:01] library of books that you have access to

[52:03] and just start walking through it. Man,

[52:05] you're going to get through so many

[52:06] books that you've always wanted to read.

[52:08] Some of them are hard, you know, to when

[52:11] you're not looking at the words on the

[52:12] page and when a when when the when the

[52:14] guy or woman reading the book goes too

[52:16] fast. I get it. But there are lots of

[52:18] things, not just novels, things that you

[52:20] can actually uh read. Many people say,

[52:23] "You read me your book on my commute.

[52:26] It's so gratifying when people tell me

[52:27] that or podcasts, you know, things that

[52:28] are really nutritious and and positive

[52:30] for you." I hope, Stephanie, that office

[52:33] hours becomes part of your commute. If

[52:34] you do those three things and you

[52:36] program those hours, you're going to

[52:38] look forward to your commute. You're

[52:39] going to get smarter, more informed, and

[52:40] happier as a result of it. And that's

[52:43] what's going to reduce the unhappiness

[52:45] part of it, maybe even to zero.

[52:48] Okay, friends, that's all we got time

[52:50] for today. I hope you've enjoyed office

[52:52] hours listening and watching as much as

[52:54] I've enjoyed doing this. Um, this gives

[52:57] me so much energy. Um, please let me

[52:59] know uh what questions you have, what

[53:01] feedback you have, what comments you

[53:03] have. Like, subscribe, help us with the

[53:06] algorithms, but just as much, criticize,

[53:08] comment, do it on the platforms that

[53:10] you're listening on or send your

[53:12] comments into office hours.com.

[53:15] And I look forward to hearing what's on

[53:17] your mind. And I'm really looking

[53:18] forward in the future weeks telling you

[53:20] what's on mine. Thanks very much, and

[53:21] I'll see you next week.

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