Transcript
[0:05] Ajahn Brahm: Okay, I did notice there's a
few people with sore throats who've got coughing,
[0:09] so to make it nice and peaceful during the
talk can we all cough in unison at the beginning
[0:16] [laughter] and have it all done away. So communal
coughing first of all please.
[0:21] [many coughs and laughter]
[0:24] Thank you.
[0:26] [more laughter]
[0:28] Okay now be quiet. And of course there is
no way to control these things so if you have
[0:34] to cough just make peace with the coughing
and let it happen. But the title of this evening's
[0:42] talk is going to be on dealing with your emotions.
Somebody asked me, a couple of people asked
[0:50] me for subjects to talk about this evening
and I wanted to focus on the big subject of
[0:59] your emotions and how we deal with them, especially
in Buddhism. Because this will cover a couple
[1:05] of requests which people have given for the
Friday night talk. And you may notice that
[1:12] quite often when I give these talks on a Friday
evening I don't really spend too much time
[1:17] talking about the theory of Buddhism and the
intellectual part which is just really the
[1:22] realm of thought. Of course that's part of
Buddhism and you can read about that in books
[1:28] and sometimes I do go into those more intellectual
and ephemeral parts of philosophy of Buddhist
[1:36] life. But what's more important I've found
in practice is this emotional world and how
[1:42] to deal with life as we face it in our modern
age. And especially how we deal with emotions
[1:48] which have a huge effect upon on our physical
and mental wellbeing. And those emotions range
[1:59] from despair to raw anger to inspiration to
love to compassion and all those emotions
[2:07] are a very important part of our life. And
sometimes the theories and intellectual abstractions,
[2:15] sometimes they don't address the reality of
our emotional world.
[2:21] And I want to talk about that this evening
- how we deal you know with those emotions
[2:25] - how we identify them and make sense out
of them and learn to move forward with those
[2:34] emotions, because I do and also the Buddha
identified a distinction between emotions,
[2:42] there are some things which we do call the
negative emotions which are problematical,
[2:47] there are things such like you know grief,
being angry, being afraid, wanting revenge,
[2:55] having a broken heart.
Whatever else those negative emotions are
[3:00] we realise they do impinge upon our happiness
and our success in life, they do hold us back
[3:07] from progress. So those are the negative emotions
and there is many more you can include in
[3:14] that category. There is also what we call
the positive emotions, things like inspiration,
[3:22] things like compassion. And one of the great
positive emotions which too many people often
[3:28] forget about is a positive emotion of peace.
And I put that in the realm of emotions because
[3:36] that's something that's solid which empowers
and motivates you; I'll be talking about that
[3:42] towards the end of the talk - usually we have
to start with negative emotions first of all.
[3:49] And of course I have to deal with that a lot,
people usually come and ring me up, or come
[3:53] and send me emails or come and talk about
their negative emotions. Very rarely do they
[3:58] come up and say, "Ajahn Brahm, I'm so happy!
I'm having a wonderful time! Everything is
[4:03] going well in my life! I'm just having so
much joy!"
[4:06] [laughter]
[4:07] They say nooo..I've just broken up with my
boyfriend, ah just my husband has run away
[4:16] with my best friend, I just got the sack from
work, I've got cancer, someone has died, that's
[4:23] what, the stock market has gone down or the
Eagles have lost, or whatever it is. People
[4:29] they're always complaining about the negative
part of their life - so that's what you have
[4:34] to deal with first of all. And even sometimes
in my monastery people actually ring me up
[4:41] for counselling - we call that Dial-a-Monk
service [laughter].
[4:46] But you get so busy sometimes, I made this
suggestion to have one of these answering
[4:56] machine services - you know like you get in
these government - like press 1 for something.
[5:04] Because it has happened that sometimes people
sometimes their dog has died or someone says
[5:08] can you do some chanting for me over the phone.
Can you do some Buddhist prayers, they ask
[5:13] for. I've done that sometimes, in the middle
of the night, to the opposite side of the
[5:17] world - their dog is sick so I've done the
chanting over the phone.. sometimes I'm too
[5:25] compassionate. [laughter]. But.. so I've decided
actually to actually, uh, so if you want..we
[5:37] can record these chants and have them on the
recorder so if you want a prayer you can just
[5:41] press number 1. [laughter]. Why not, that's
very easy. And then if you want to speak to
[5:50] Ajahn Brahm you haven't got a prayer so press
number 1 anyway. So that way I get rid of
[5:59] everybody and have a nice easy time.
[6:00] But you have to deal with people, and that's
only a joke. You have to deal with..it's much
[6:07] nicer to be accessible to people, even though
you're tired, I'd rather be accessible then
[6:12] be sort-of somehow separated from the people
who support you, and feed you, and clothe
[6:17] you, and look after you and your friends.
So even though it's a lot of work I enjoy
[6:21] doing it. But when you're dealing with people's
emotions, sometimes you have to let people
[6:28] understand, number one, that those emotions
are real, they have a place in life, but also
[6:33] where they come from. Because it's great when
you have an emotion in your heart, to find
[6:39] out why is that there, where did it originate
from. Because it's great when you track it
[6:45] back, you can see how emotions arise, how
they build up. I don't know how many of you
[6:50] have been to movies, but you can actually
see that the trick of the movie is to start
[6:56] with the music. You know the different musics
that get your emotions going and just how
[7:01] even the lighting starts to change. If you
want to get people afraid, you turn the lights
[7:06] down.. and the music is very very soft.. apumbabambumbum
bumbumbum.. And it gets people, because actually
[7:16] your heart beats. When you get excited you
heart beat goes at that level. And if the
[7:21] music or whatever else. the beat gets that,
it actually encourages your heart beat to
[7:25] sort-of get very very very strong. And you
can even use your speech to say that..something..is..coming.....and
[7:34] make people afraaaaaid.. But you can see how
emotions can be generated, just in movies
[7:43] especially by the music by the way that speech
is actually said, and also by the lighting.
[7:51] One of the first times when I saw this, how
people can play your emotions is actually
[7:55] when we started our nun's monastery down in
Gingegannup because that was before Sister
[8:00] Vayama was here, and we were looking for a
nice piece of land, we found this nice piece
[8:04] of land over in Reen Road but it was on auction.
And so I went there for the auction, with
[8:11] - I don't know if he's here this evening - Eddy
Fernando was our bidder. But when the auctioneer
[8:19] started the auction he was very calm, saying
about this beautiful block of land, wonderful
[8:28] place for retreat, lovely forests and the
river and then he started mentioning the figures..
[8:36] And he said, I think this is worth so much,
I think we should start for at least a million
[8:43] dollars. And straight away I thought, "oh
no". And then he bids for one million, and
[8:49] of course no one bid, any bids for five hundred
thousand, four hundred, three hundred.. Let's
[8:55] start two-fifty. Someone put their hand up
- two-fifty. And that's when he started - two-fifty
[9:02] two-fifty, we've got two-seventy-five, two-seventy-five,
two-seventy-five, anyone two-seventy-five!
[9:04] We've got two-seventy-five!! Three-hundred,
three-hundred, wawawawawawa..!! [laughter].
[9:06] And even I was a monk, even I started getting
excited. [laughter].
[9:13] And you can see just how they do this, just
the way they speak, they suddenly raise their
[9:19] voice and started speaking very quickly, and
you do get excited. And how emotions can be
[9:24] generated, when you see how those emotions
can be generated, you can actually sometimes
[9:30] be in power over other people's emotions.
Just by acting slowly, and by speaking softly
[9:40] you can calm people down. One of the first
times I saw this and it was very impressive
[9:47] was the former abbot and Spiritual Director
of the Buddhist Society of Western Australia
[9:54] Ajahn Jagaro. I was with him when he was a
monk just learning his trade in Thailand.
[9:59] Because we do learn a trade - this is a training
which we go through. And we were having our
[10:06] morning meal when a Thai lady ran into our
dining hall. She ran in, and she's obviously
[10:14] very upset, because they don't usually do
this - interfering in a monk's meal. And she
[10:21] was saying something in Thai, and I actually
caught it after a while, she said "Suchin
[10:26] is dead! Suchin is dead! She shot herself!
She's committed suicide!".
[10:31] And I got really quite excited too because
I knew that lady, she had cancer, we've been
[10:36] going to see her, talking to her, counselling
her. She was a close disciple of the monastery.
[10:43] And that morning she had shot herself, and
this was her best friend who found her body.
[10:50] She came in to the monastery just straight
away, completely distraught having found her
[10:56] best friend committed suicide. You can understand
what she felt like. And I understood that,
[11:05] and I looked to Ajahn Jagaro who was the head
monk at that time to see what he would do.
[11:11] He understood what she'd said and he put his
head down and carried on eating. And this
[11:18] lady - "She shot herself! She killed herself!"
- and the monk just carried on eating as if
[11:25] nothing had happened. And after about one
or two minutes she stopped moving her arms
[11:32] up and down, she stopped shouting, and at
that point Ajahn Jagaro put down his spoon,
[11:39] put aside his bowl, and said "what happened?"
I thought it was a beautiful piece of psychological
[11:46] calming a person's emotions down. Because
he was not responding with anxiety to her
[11:54] great distress, he was just calming her down
just by his actions and by his softness, she
[12:03] too calmed down in the space of one or two
minutes. It was the most brilliant counselling
[12:09] I'd seen for years. He was giving her a sense
of perspective about what had happened. So
[12:20] by having someone who was calm, was not being
agitated, she could calm down too and see
[12:26] the bigger picture. Which is what happens
sometimes, when we see this is my boyfriend
[12:31] that's left me, this is my child that's died,
this is my job which someone else has taken,
[12:37] these are my shares which have just all disappeared,
it's my team the Dockers have lost - I'm being
[12:43] fair because I've mentioned the Eagles first
now I'm mentioning the Dockers.
[12:49] Sometimes that we when lose perspective we
can actually get emotionally distraught and
[12:54] that was a very beautiful way that he dealt
with that by calming her down to see a bigger
[12:59] picture. Not negating her feelings but acknowledging
them, but calming them down. Because you see
[13:11] just how these emotions can get built up,
what actually builds them up and how they're
[13:15] created. I just was at a funeral service this
afternoon - and I enjoy taking funerals because
[13:25] at a funeral service you do have a group of
people who are emotionally raw. They've just
[13:33] lost a close member of their family or their
friend and it's, I've seen many many times
[13:41] just how grief can be created or how that
feeling of grief can be calmed down to get
[13:48] a different emotion coming up. I can actually
see that I remember even when my own father
[13:54] died that obviously I knew my mother so well
but when my father died she knew he was going
[14:02] to die, you know he came very close many times,
when he actually did die she was at ease,
[14:08] at peace with it. It was only when a cousin
came in to the house and opened up her arms
[14:18] to my mother and said, "oh you poor thing",
and of course that meant the floodgates of
[14:24] my mother's tears started coming. And I knew
that if that cousin hadn't said that stupid
[14:30] thing my mother would be much more at peace
with the death of her husband and my father.
[14:37] It was as if that there was a social trigger
there, that you've lost your husband that
[14:43] you must cry, and that was pressed by this
cousin when, before that happened she did
[14:48] not need to go on that path of grief. And
I've seen so often that our social conditioning
[14:55] creates these emotions. And one of the things
which I love doing if you're teaching at a
[15:02] funeral is to actually give people other triggers.
Trigger not to actually generate these emotions
[15:11] in the same old ways, but look at them in
a different way. To give different triggers
[15:17] to different emotions.
[15:18] And let's look at another sort-of emotion,
the emotion of anger. Where does that anger
[15:24] come from? You know the old story, that someone
calls you a pig, I don't know if anyone's
[15:31] called you a pig today, but now I'm going
to call you a pig. And what happens when somebody
[15:38] calls you a pig? You think - "they have no
right to call me a pig! Who does he think
[15:45] he is to call me a pig!? I am not a pig! He
shouldn't call me a pig." And every time you
[15:53] remember that I've called you a pig, you allow
me to call you a pig one more time. Every
[16:00] time you remember that I'm calling you a pig
again. Why do we do such things? Why can't
[16:07] we just say "he called me a pig" and then
forget about it. Instead of allowing us to
[16:14] trigger that emotion of anger, ill-will whatever
else it is. The anger that comes up in you,
[16:24] you actually you allow it to happen. There
is no reason for it at all, you don't have
[16:29] to follow that path. If you trace anger back,
where did you get angry from, you can actually
[16:35] see a series of irritations which you dwell
upon, you think about, and you create the
[16:41] fire. Anger is like a blaze, like a forest
fire, but all forest fires they start just
[16:48] with a small spark. And even that small spark
it starts just with a small little fire in
[16:54] the twigs or in the leaves. If you catch it
quickly it's just so easy to put out.
[17:00] But a lot of times we don't notice it that
easily, until it gets so big, so big it's
[17:08] a forest fire. Living in the bush, and having
experienced major bushfires, I know just how
[17:14] difficult they are to put out once they are
fully alight. It's much better to catch them
[17:19] earlier. If you can catch these negative emotions
earlier, through you mindfulness, through
[17:25] your awareness, through your mental training,
it's not that hard to actually to transcend
[17:35] emotions such as anger, or fear, or grief.
If we really want to, we can train ourselves.
[17:44] And it's not like a training of willpower,
it's always a training of wisdom power, to
[17:50] see where these things come from, to see their
cause, how they're built up and catch them
[17:56] earlier. Even some of the people who have
panic attacks, who get very afraid in certain
[18:03] situations, sometimes you think the panic
or the fear just comes up almost immediately,
[18:11] but it doesn't, there are signs there.. And
trouble is that sometimes we're so busy that
[18:18] we're not really aware what's going on in
our body or in our mind because we're taken
[18:22] up with the needs of the moment. We don't
actually notice how these emotions are getting
[18:28] built up in us, and how they're being reinforced
by unskillful thought patterns.
[18:36] Even like depression, another negative emotion,
we create that. And again through some unskillful
[18:45] thinking, not being mindful, not actually
understanding where these things come from
[18:50] we build up the negativity, minute by minute,
day by day, until in gets so strong and then
[18:57] we notice it like the huge fire. So what are
the ways of understanding these emotions,
[19:04] especially the negative emotions, is actually
to trace back where they come from. If you're
[19:10] angry, if you're afraid, ask why.
[19:15] Over in Thailand, the Thais are just so so
afraid of ghosts. And there was amazing, that
[19:25] sometimes like the one thing they were most
afraid of was actually being with a newly
[19:30] dead body. And being a Westerner I wasn't
afraid of that at all. I remember once when
[19:38] I think it was Ajahn Chah's brother that died
and was being cremated, I told one of the
[19:44] monks - I'm just going to go and do some meditation
by the corpse. He said "what?!" I said "I'm
[19:49] going to do some meditation by the..". He
said "have a cup of coffee". I thought - that's
[19:54] really nice. And I couldn't understand why
they were giving me all this coffee. And the
[19:59] reason way they were so impressed that anybody
could sit in meditation next to a newly dead
[20:05] corpse, because they were just so afraid of
that. So once I found that out, I always went
[20:12] to say I'm going to sit by a corpse, and they
brought all this nice coffee. [laughter].
[20:15] A bit of a scam because I wasn't afraid. Maybe
it was because at University I was part of
[20:22] the Psychic Research Society and one of the
things we found out was that never ever once
[20:27] in a hundred years of ghost hunting in UK
has a ghost ever harmed anybody. So armed
[20:33] with that information I had my research - so
why be afraid? They can't harm me at all.
[20:38] And that way I wasn't conditioned through
fear. But the Thai people, and there's a few
[20:45] Thai people here, [laughter], they have grown
up with ghost movies.
[20:52] Ever since they were small they saw these
ghosts, huge, like heads with entrails following
[20:59] behind, and they would do terrible things
to people. And because of that, just even
[21:04] the mention of a ghost.. I remember this story
- this poor little novice staying in our monastery
[21:10] in Thailand. Because it was a cremation monastery
that day was the moon day when we would meditate
[21:16] all night...that poor little novice, we did
a funeral that day, and were supposed to meditate
[21:21] all night... in the hall. Now usually, little
novices, they are only about 11-12 years of
[21:28] age, there is no way they would stay up all
night, they would sneak off in the middle
[21:32] of their night back to their house. We knew
they did this, it was breaking the rules,
[21:35] but they were only small little monks, so
we didn't mind. And we've go to be kind..
[21:41] Not this day. This night, that little novice,
he would not leave the hall. [Laughter]. Because
[21:49] he was just so afraid of the ghost. See even
the [Laughter]. Those dogs must have been
[21:59] reborn in Thailand. Last night. [Laughter].
Great special effects.
[22:07] Now these, here they go again. [Laughter].
Shut up, dogs! [Laughter].
[22:18] There, they're going now. Now these ghosts,
or rather this little novice, the poor little
[22:29] novice, stuck in that hall, you know 10 o'clock,
11 o'clock, 12 o'clock, too scared to go out.
[22:35] When it got to about 2 o'clock in the morning
he just couldn't hold his urine any longer.
[22:41] He had to go to the toilet. And the trouble
is the toilet was about 20 meters outside
[22:48] the hall. [Some laughter]. In the darkness.
So this poor little, you can imagine what
[22:53] he felt like, he had the pain in his bladder
against the fear of that ghost getting him.
[22:58] So he made a run for it - desperation. He
ran and he got to the toilet, locked the door.
[23:05] He'd only been in that toilet for about a
few minutes when he heard the steps. [Laughter].
[23:12] And it came right to the toilet cubicle he
was in and started scratching. Can you get
[23:21] a scratch..? [Scratches tissue box]. I tried
to get some special effects.. for the tape
[23:32] [Laughter]. A scratch at the door..and this
poor little novice didn't come out of that
[23:37] toilet cubicle for about 3 hours. [Laughter].
And when he came out he was telling us - the
[23:45] ghost came to get him! The ghost! And he heard
it, he heard it scratching. Another monk saw
[23:50] that ghost.. You know what it was? It was
a civet cat. Like a possum. Those of you who've
[23:57] been to Asia know they've got squat toilets.
The toilets are actually on the floor, and
[24:03] that little possum, civet cat, every evening
he would go into that toilet cubicle to get
[24:08] some water to drink from the toilet bowl.
That was his drinking place. And so that evening
[24:15] all that happened was this little possum walked
to that toilet and was scratching the door
[24:21] - "please let me in, I'm thirsty". [Laughter].
[24:24] But that little novice [laughs], he was a
ghost coming to get me! And you can actually
[24:30] see how because of wrong thinking, and because
there was a funeral that day, thinking all
[24:37] day, thinking all evening, and what was just
a little jungle cat, just coming for a drink,
[24:43] he thought it was a ghost and he was in that
toilet for about 3 or 4 hours - poor little
[24:48] novice. Now what about you? What do you get
afraid of? And are you any more intelligent
[24:56] than a small little novice. Why is it that
these emotions they catch us. And why is it?
[25:05] Because we don't see them coming, we encourage
them too much. Every time we think negatively,
[25:13] "oh, the ghost is going to come to us" or
we think negatively "I'm going to lose my
[25:19] job" or we think negatively "I'm going to
get that cancer. I'm going to get it. I know
[25:22] I'm going to get it. Now I'm fine but I am."
When you think negatively like that you're
[25:27] building up the emotions, the emotions you
get are built up by many many moments of unskillful
[25:34] attitudes and thoughts.
[25:38] But now we have them. So once you know where
they come from you know they're actually created.
[25:45] At least if you know that you create them,
you actually bring them together, even like
[25:50] grief.. Why do you have to have grief when
somebody dies? Why can't we just celebrate
[26:00] that fact that we've known these people for
such a long time. What a wonderful time we
[26:05] had together. Now we just let them go. You
never cry for the person who's died, you always
[26:14] cry for yourself. At your loss - nothing to
do with them..
[26:20] So when we understand that we can do something
about these things it gives us a possibility
[26:26] to actually to transcend those negative emotions.
Because when you think about it, reflect upon
[26:33] it, what good does grief do? It doesn't help
the person who's dead. It doesn't help yourself.
[26:41] It's not what the dead person really wants
from you - they don't want you to be unhappy
[26:44] and to cry all those hours and days. If someone
really loved you and you loved them, they
[26:51] want you to be happy, to live your life in
as much fullness and joy as you possibly can.
[26:58] If you really revere their memory surely that's
what you should do. Not to grieve for them
[27:04] but to be happy for them. For you to be happy,
for them.
[27:14] So when we can change our attitudes that way,
when we can actually do something about our
[27:19] grief, or like our anger - what good does
anger do? Every time you get angry at your
[27:25] partner they don't do what you want them to
do, they don't get better - they usually get
[27:32] worse! So why get angry and shout at them
for? It just doesn't solve the problem and
[27:37] doesn't actually fulfill its promises. And
just was it in January, when I was going off
[27:46] to Indonesia to give a series of talks I got
to Perth airport and found that the Garuda
[27:53] flight was cancelled. It was actually delayed
by about 18 hours. And I was a monk so I just
[28:03] went up to the counter and said, "Oh is it
delayed? When is it going to leave? 18 hours.
[28:06] Okay, thank you very much," and I sort-of
called the monastery and got a lift back to
[28:12] the monastery. But the people behind me they
were thumping the counter - "You can't do
[28:17] this to us! I've got all of these arrangements
and plans!" I had arrangements and plans as
[28:22] well - thousands of people were waiting to
listen to my talks. But I couldn't do anything
[28:26] about it. And you know all that anger and
all that thumping and all that shouting..
[28:31] it didn't make the plane leave earlier. It
didn't do anything good at all except making
[28:38] people upset. Themselves upset, and other
people upset. So really what is the use of
[28:44] anger? You can intimidate somebody for a short
time but they will always want revenge. They
[28:52] won't respect you. And if you're a boss they'll
only do what you want, they'll only do what
[28:59] you want for the time being, only because
you're there. They won't do what you've asked
[29:05] them out of respect. Just out of fear. And
that's no way to have any sort of relationship
[29:11] or any sort of business. Really anger doesn't
make any sense to me.
[29:18] So anger and fear and grief and depression
these are negative emotions. So first of all
[29:28] when these happen what should we do about
them?
[29:32] There's something in Buddhism called the second
factor of the eightfold path. The eightfold
[29:39] path is a way to happiness to enlightenment
and the second factor is one of my favourite
[29:45] factors of that path. It's called right intention
or right attitude. And I love that because
[29:53] it is an attitude which we have to everything
we deal with in life. Whether it's the physical
[29:59] world or the emotional world. The path to
enlightenment hinges on our attitude to things.
[30:06] So if you have depression or anger or grief,
what should one's reaction be? And the three
[30:15] parts of right attitude in Buddhism - second
factor of the eightfold path - is letting
[30:21] go, kindness and gentleness. The three factors.
The letting go one is the hardest one for
[30:28] people to understand because they don't know
what they're supposed to let go off. It's
[30:32] not letting go of the grief, it's letting
go of the person that doesn't want the grief.
[30:38] It's letting go of the controlling. Because
sometimes when people have grief, disappointment,
[30:46] broken heart, anger, fear, when we try and
do letting go we think letting go means destroying
[30:55] those emotions. That's disrespect to those
emotions. Instead, we let go of that person
[31:02] inside who's trying to do something about
this, the controller, the one who says "I
[31:07] don't want these emotions, I have to get rid
of them". That's the thing we have to let
[31:13] go of. The control-freak. So if you have those
emotions inside of you and you try to suppress
[31:20] them, get rid of them, destroy them, of course
what happens - they get worse.
[31:27] If you're fed up and you say "I shouldn't
be fed up", that's what we call being fed
[31:32] up about being fed up. [laughter]. We have
something called suffering - the word for
[31:37] suffering in Buddhism is dukkha. We call such
things double-dukkha. It's like I'm angry
[31:44] - "I shouldn't be angry! I'm a monk!". You're
getting angry at being angry. You're depressed,
[31:50] and I'm fed up with being.., I don't want
to be depressed anymore! You're being depressed
[31:53] about being depressed! Or you're afraid of
fear. Those are called double-dukkha. Double-suffering.
[32:02] And of course from double-suffering we go
into the next stage of treble-suffering. [laughter].
[32:06] I'm angry about being angry about being angry.
I'm so sad about being sad about being grieving.
[32:16] Now this is actually what people do. They
actually build it up by their reactions of
[32:21] trying to get rid of things, controlling things.
The first part of the Buddhist reaction, the
[32:28] wise reaction, is just accept this is your
reality. Let it go, let it be if you like.
[32:36] So stop messing around with these emotions
in this moment, stop adding negativity to
[32:43] the emotions you're experiencing right now.
If someone is grieving for the loss of a child,
[32:50] or they're disappointed because a relationship
they cherished is no longer viable, or if
[32:57] they're afraid - be honest to that fear. It's
just part of life. It's just your reality
[33:07] at this moment, don't take it personally,
as an affront to your arrogant idea of who
[33:13] you think you are. When you accept it, you
start to undermine it. It's a wonderful thing
[33:21] to know that when you're at peace with fear,
fear dissipates. When you're not angry at
[33:29] anger, the anger just loses its power source,
it just dissipates. When you're just at peace
[33:39] or accept the grief, the grief doesn't last
very long. It's when we try and control these
[33:45] things and get rid of them that we're actually
feeding them.
[33:50] So we let go of this controller. We're kind
to our emotions, even our negative emotions.
[33:57] So when you have, you know a negative emotion,
you're disappointed, you're fed up, look at
[34:04] those emotions like beings in this world,
be compassionate to the beings which exist
[34:10] in your mental landscape. And we should never
be cruel, we should be gentle to ourselves
[34:16] and allow these things to be.. Because too
often we do violence to our emotional world,
[34:25] and because we do violence to our emotional
world, it's against the gentleness of this
[34:30] second factor of the eightfold path. Because
we do violence to that world - "I shouldn't
[34:34] be afraid! I shouldn't be grieving! I shouldn't
be angry!" you can see that that makes more
[34:41] negative emotions for your future. Basically
we call this the Law of Kamma. The emotions
[34:48] you have now have been generated by what you've
done in the past. But they're there - you
[34:55] can't undo the past. You're stuck with this,
the results of your past kamma. I don't mean
[35:01] past life - I mean what you've been doing
today, it's created this moment you're feeling
[35:05] now. But now what are we going to do about
this. It's the kamma we do in the moment which
[35:12] is most important and if we face this moment,
maybe a moment of grief, it may be a moment
[35:18] of fear, it may be a moment of sadness, a
moment of anger, we can face this moment and
[35:27] say "This is a result of past kamma, what
am I doing about this now? I'm going to make
[35:33] good kamma with this feeling. I'm going to
let go of trying to control it. I'm going
[35:39] to be kind to it. I'm going to be gentle with
it. I'm going to respect it. Allowing it like
[35:45] every other being in this universe to be - they
have a reason to be here. I'm going to allow
[35:51] them to be and accept them and be at peace
with them."
[35:56] When you can make peace and be kind to the
emotions you're experiencing in the moment,
[36:00] a wonderful thing happens - the emotional
pain loses its sting, and the tightness of
[36:10] that emotional knot starts to unravel. Whether
it's a broken heart, or whether it's grief
[36:17] over the loss of a child, when you really
let it be, we call it healing. We call it
[36:24] sort-of fixing up the problem. We call it
moving on. We call it just growth out of that
[36:32] sort-of dark part of the heart.
[36:36] Things change. But when you fight those emotions,
when you think they shouldn't be there, when
[36:42] you're not kind to them, when you try and
get involved with it, you always mess up.
[36:49] So this is actually using this Law of Kamma,
these things are because of the past, what
[36:54] am I doing about it now? And that way you
can actually take these negative emotions
[37:00] and they start to disappear. They don't last
all that long.
[37:04] There's a story - a wonderful story - in my
book and the reason I mentioned it this afternoon
[37:10] at the funeral, the reason I mentioned it
because I got a letter from United States
[37:15] last week and somebody had listened to the
talks on the internet, they read my book "Opening
[37:20] the Door of Your Heart", and there's a story
in there about the emperor's ring, "this too
[37:25] will pass", that story, if you haven't heard
it before, it's a powerful story, about an
[37:32] emperor, a young man who took over the kingdom
when he wasn't really mature enough to know
[37:38] how to lead. And so whenever things were going
well in his kingdom he'd always have celebrations
[37:45] and parties. And because he was spending too
much resources and too much time celebrating,
[37:52] and not actually doing the running of the
kingdom, the good times never lasted all that
[37:57] long. And when the terrible times, the bad
times, bad economy, unrest, social disorder,
[38:04] whenever there was trouble in his kingdom
he'd get so upset and depressed he'd stay
[38:09] in his room and sulk and cry, which meant
he wasn't working during the difficult times.
[38:17] And the ministers they realised that their
leader, their king, their emperor, wasn't
[38:23] really working properly, and that's the reason
why there were too many bad times and not
[38:27] enough prosperous times. You can't just tell
these people what to do. Even these ministers
[38:34] in the Howard Government, they can't tell
John Howard what to do. They've got to be
[38:38] sneaky, they've got to be wise, and so what
these ministers did, instead of telling their
[38:43] emperor what to do, they just went to a goldsmith,
asked for him to make a ring, the only difference
[38:52] between that ring and ordinary rings was what
was engraved on the outside, which was the
[38:58] words "this too will pass".
And they gave that ring with the engraved
[39:03] words "this too will pass" to the emperor,
told him to wear it on all occasions, that's
[39:07] all, and the emperor did. Whenever there were
bad times he would look upon the ring, "this
[39:14] too will pass", he knew by nature he didn't
have to force those negative emotions and
[39:21] those bad times out of his kingdom, he knew
they would pass naturally. And because he
[39:28] knew the bad times would pass, it gave him
what's called hope, and when there's hope
[39:34] we can work, where it's hopeless we think
the grief is going to last forever, the broken
[39:40] heart was always going to be there, you'll
never find another partner ever in life.
[39:45] Or you'll never find that money again on the
stock market, or whatever it is your chance
[39:50] to win the cup is gone forever. When you think
it's forever that just makes life hopeless
[39:58] and you don't work. You don't make kamma anymore.
But when actually you have hope, there's always
[40:06] something you can do. It gives you that motivation
to work even in difficult times of your life.
[40:12] And actually the reason I'm saying this was
because the photograph someone sent me was
[40:20] actually from the graduation ceremony of Virginia
Tech university, recently, and I think you
[40:27] all know what happened at Virginia Tech in
April, I was in London at that time. I think
[40:32] it was 39 young men and women were shot down
by that murderer? You know, while they were
[40:39] on campus. And at the graduation ceremony
one of the graduates, you know the funny hats
[40:44] they wear, they're called mortarboards, with
the flat top, on the top of his mortarboard
[40:49] he'd actually painted the words "this too
will pass", in memoriam of the pain that had
[40:56] happened in that university in the biggest
serial killer murder in United States history.
[41:05] That's why he said "I don't know whether this
guy's read your book or what", by he's obviously
[41:10] got the message. And it is a powerful message
because it gives you hope, it allows you to
[41:15] let these things pass away.
So "this too will pass". The other part of
[41:20] that story, which is very valuable to consider,
is that that emperor wore that ring not just
[41:28] in difficult times but also in the happy times
as well. Because it's in the prosperous, happy,
[41:35] good times that we should always remember,
"this too will pass". Because he knew that
[41:42] the happy prosperous times were also fragile,
he had a few celebrations but not many, because
[41:51] he knew he had to work hard to make sure those
prosperous happy good times lasted as long
[41:58] as they possibly can. And they did. He became
a very successful and well-loved emperor because
[42:06] the bad times were very short and the happy
long times were longer than anybody could
[42:13] ever remember.
And of course you know who that emperor really
[42:17] is - it's you. And your empire is your life,
your body, your family, your environment.
[42:26] When we have these negative emotions what
we're actually saying, we're sulking, we're
[42:31] forgetting, "this too will pass". But also
when you have the positive emotions, when
[42:36] you have happiness and joy and inspiration,
please never take them for granted. They also
[42:43] need to be guarded, and cherished and nurtured,
otherwise they go too quickly. So when we
[42:53] have our positive emotions, when things are
going well, be careful, don't get heedless
[43:00] and think "Oh my life is going well now, I'm
healthy therefore I don't need to exercise
[43:05] anymore, I have a wonderful relationship now
so I don't need to put effort into caring
[43:11] for my partner, I have a wonderful Buddhist
Society now, so I don't need to put donations
[43:16] in the donations box anymore [laughter]".
[43:19] You've got to keep caring, otherwise the whole
thing sort-of falls apart! "I'm happy, therefore
[43:31] I don't need to put effort into my happiness
anymore." Be careful there because all these
[43:38] positive emotions, they're fragile, you know
where they're caused from. If you have the
[43:43] happy emotions well done, if you feel well,
you're happy, you have these beautiful inspirations
[43:49] of kindness and generosity, now how does that
feel? The positive emotions are great. They
[43:57] need to be cultivated. Where do they come
from? Just like the negative emotions, when
[44:03] you're happy, where does it come from? You
can actually see the positive thoughts get
[44:10] more and more and more, like in the movies,
when they have a romance. In a romance movie,
[44:17] it's years seen I've seen these movies, but
I'm sure they haven't changed, they don't
[44:21] fall in love at the very beginning and get
married. That happens at the very end of the
[44:26] movie. It all builds up to this. So the whole
movie is building up to the suggestion that
[44:32] these two people are going to meet and be
happy and all their problems are going to
[44:35] be solved. And that thought is been on your
mind again and again and again for about an
[44:40] hour, an hour and a half, so when they do
meet, "oh at last they've met!", you get emotional,
[44:45] you start crying, "oh isn't it wonderful",
because that emotion has been built over the
[44:50] whole course of the movie. And once you understand
where these positive emotions come from, you
[44:57] can actually start building them up inside
of you.
[45:02] One of the things which I teach my monks,
teach nuns, teach yourself as well - negative
[45:09] emotions they come basically from what we
call the fault-finding mind. You always see
[45:14] what's wrong in other people, you see what's
wrong in yourself, what's wrong in the monks,
[45:17] what's wrong in the Buddhist Society, what's
wrong in the government, what's wrong in the
[45:21] whole world! And that gives a lot of negative
emotions. Why don't we look at the other side
[45:28] - not the fault-finding mind, but what we
call the gratitude mind. When we see the beautiful
[45:36] in our Buddhist Society, you see the beauty
in your partner, you see the beauty in yourself,
[45:46] you see the beauty in our wonderful Prime
Minister Mr Howard [laughter]. What are you
[45:52] laughing for, you cynical group? [laughter].
You can see the beauty in these things! And
[45:59] jee, I mean I wouldn't like to be a Prime
Minister. Would you? It's a very difficult
[46:05] job. So when you start to see the positive
parts in these people, you're actually generating
[46:13] the positive emotions such as respect. How
many people actually have respect for their
[46:23] parents, for their partners, for the people
in authority? Why do we disrespect our systems?
[46:30] Because we've been cultivating those fault-finding
negative thoughts in our media, in our newspapers,
[46:38] in our conversations. No wonder we have a
lack of disrespect. You know if you ask people
[46:45] in other countries they look at Australia
- "This is a beautiful land. It's pretty well
[46:50] governed. It could be better but could certainly
be a lot worse!" So why don't we have respect
[46:57] for our institutions, why are we so negative?
You know if we're so negative with our institutions,
[47:04] we get very negative towards our partners.
Why is it that in our modern life people have
[47:11] such a hard time finding a life partner, keeping
them, sticking with them? Because they always
[47:18] find fault with each other. And why do people
always have lack of self-esteem, getting depression,
[47:25] because they start finding fault with themselves
as well. I'm not good enough. They're not
[47:32] good enough. Life's not good enough. Be careful
because that path leads to big depression.
[47:37] We're actually building up those negative
emotions and instead we can build up the positive
[47:43] emotions. We deliberately look for something
in our partner we can respect and love and
[47:50] care for. We deliberately look in something
in ourselves which we can love and care, respect.
[47:58] We deliberately look for something in life
which we care about, we love and got passion
[48:05] for. And that way, by focusing on that, we're
building up, generating, the positive emotions
[48:13] of life. And when you start to learn how you
can generate those positive emotions, the
[48:19] path becomes clear just how you can have a
sort of control of this emotional world of
[48:25] yours. You're not just like a rudderless ship,
always going through these storms and these
[48:31] calms of the ocean of your emotions, but you
can actually have some guidance there, you
[48:37] can generate beautiful emotions. That's basically
just what our whole path of Buddhism is. Letting
[48:46] go of the negative emotions and generating
the positive ones. Compassion is a positive
[48:51] emotion. It's not just something you talk
about, and just throw that word out "compassion".
[48:56] Yeah, we all know we should be compassionate.
And I'm sure at the Dalai Lama's talk everyone's
[49:01] saying "yeah we should all be compassionate".
But then afterwards when somebody cut in front
[49:07] of them in the traffic jam - "You stupid..!
You shouldn't do this!". We have to actually
[49:13] act compassionately, be compassionate, generate
this positive emotion. This is actually how
[49:18] we do this, you know, through our mindfulness,
and our care and our understanding of life,
[49:25] we realise that whatever we're faced with
in life, that's result of old kamma, what's
[49:32] the kamma we're doing now? By generating this
beautiful allowing this moment to be, respecting
[49:38] this moment, but being kind to it, being gentle,
we are actually developing these positive
[49:46] wonderful emotions, of respect, of gratitude,
allowing things to be, compassion, even inspiration.
[49:56] What a beautiful emotion inspiration is.
When somebody says something or does something
[50:04] and it just raises your heart and gives you
happiness for hours sometimes days sometimes
[50:08] years. These are the emotions we should be
developing. Imagine if we were a nation, a
[50:16] world, which ran more on inspiration rather
than its opposite, desperation. Inspiration,
[50:26] it uplifts us and gives us energy, because
the positive emotions empower you to do something
[50:32] really worthwhile in this world. The negative
emotions - anger, fear, depression, grief,
[50:39] what does that do - that immobilises you.
Anger sometimes gives you some energy, but
[50:46] it usually just wears you out after a while.
You can't do anything in this world - you
[50:52] can't do things. The positive emotions give
you power, and open the path to achievement,
[50:59] achieving something really worthwhile in this
world. Things like love, compassion, they're
[51:05] not something which is your birthright. You
develop these, you train for these things.
[51:11] Just like an Olympic athlete, you train and
train and train, by guarding your mind, changing
[51:18] the outlook, making good kamma, mental kamma,
with whatever you have to deal with in life.
[51:23] Allow it to be. Be kind, be gentle. When you
create this beautiful kindness and gentleness,
[51:33] this wisdom this compassion grows and grows
in you. This is not just in your life.
[51:43] Even in that book which I wrote, "Mindfulness,
Bliss and Beyond", I made an important point
[51:47] even in meditation. Successful meditators
are those who have an understanding of their
[51:54] emotional world, because even the path of
meditation is an emotional path. Very early
[52:00] on you have to suspend your intellectual thinking
and feel your way through the path of peace.
[52:10] To allow that peace to develop into the amazing
emotions which sometimes you get in deep meditation.
[52:16] There's so much joy and happiness, and why
does that come from? Because you're grateful
[52:20] just to be in this moment, no fault-finding,
so gentle to every breath, to every mind-moment
[52:29] - so accepting. And that builds up. The most
powerful emotion which I know, the inspiration
[52:39] of peace in deep meditation, and that has
moved me to tears. I've cried many times as
[52:46] a monk. But not out of grief, or out of anger,
or out of frustration. Just cried out of pure
[52:56] inspiration, beauty, joy, delight, either
in seeing amazing inspiring feats of others
[53:03] or just seeing the beauty and peace in your
own heart. This is actually what happens and
[53:10] why I've often said that it's the females
in general do better in deep meditation. Simply
[53:19] because they have more familiarity, in general
I'm saying, because there are many exceptions
[53:25] - and you're probably one of them [laughter].
[53:30] But I've noticed that because you do need
that emotional sensitivity to be able to allow
[53:35] these positive emotions to grow, to be able
to develop them in the first place. Deep meditation
[53:41] is a powerful emotional state. It's not a
blanking out. It's not an intellectual state.
[53:48] It's what you feel - deeply. The whole point
of mindfulness is being deeper where you already
[53:56] are - feeling it, being it. Not with thought,
with this mindfulness which can accept the
[54:05] power of a still mind. Those forces get very
very strong. I'd say the highest emotion I've
[54:12] ever felt are the emotions in deep meditation.
So still but incredibly powerful. They move
[54:21] you to become monk, they move you to stay
as a monk, they move you to teach, they empower
[54:27] you. So these are the very highest emotions.
So in Buddhism we're not saying you should
[54:35] be this emotionless zombie, like a robot,
because that's what sometimes people think.
[54:41] They think when you meditate you can't get
any rise out of you, you're not supposed to
[54:47] tell jokes, or laugh at jokes, you're supposed
to be like this automaton who doesn't feel
[54:53] because you're supposed to have no craving,
no emotions, no attachment, you're never unhappy,
[54:59] you're never happy, you're sometimes in this
middle just like.. If that was the case I
[55:04] would never be a monk. We start the path with
the corners of our mouth turned downwards,
[55:15] in the middle part of the path the corners
of our mouth are horizontal, as the path develops
[55:22] those corners go higher and higher and higher
[laughs]. It's great seeing these enlightened
[55:31] masters in places like Thailand - and they're
the happiest people who would really laugh.
[55:40] That told me something, that the goal of this
is not being emotionally dead. The goal of
[55:48] this path is having those negative emotions
transcended and replaced by this beautiful
[55:53] inspiring peaceful kind compassionate empathetic
emotions. Caused by letting go of control.
[56:05] Caused by kindness. Caused by the great gentleness
of respect to every moment.
[56:15] That way whatever's happening to you in your
life, the negative emotions, make peace with
[56:20] them, they're going to pass, they're part
of things. You might not know it at the time
[56:24] but I call them growing pains. Your heart
is growing when it's crying, when it's hurt
[56:35] - it's part of things, so allow it to be.
Be with it and you'll find out why it was
[56:42] there for you, what it's teaching was. When
somebody dies it tells you the value of life.
[56:50] When you break up with someone you love it
tells you how valuable relationships are.
[56:57] When you get disappointed it tells you just
how your expectations were far far too unreal.
[57:05] When somebody dies, it shows that your time
here is not that long, so I must make better
[57:11] use of it. All of these so-called negative
experiences they're all teachers, so we should
[57:18] never reject them. Allow them to come intro
our heart. Make good kamma with the bad kamma
[57:26] you're experiencing now. That way we grow
and those positive emotions become stronger
[57:32] and stronger inside of us. We become beacons
to the world, people who don't get afraid,
[57:39] don't get angry, who don't have grief. But
have lots of kindness, lots of joy, huge amounts
[57:49] of peace. Positive emotions grow at the expense
of the negative ones. They grow and grow and
[57:58] grow. This is actually the path. What a wonderful
thing it is to cherish and nurture these beautiful
[58:08] positive emotions of life. Understand where
they come from, nurture them, grow them, the
[58:14] negative ones become less and less a part
of your repertoire. You don't get angry, you
[58:22] get very kind. You don't get depressed, you
just get wonderfully inspired. You don't get
[58:29] so fault-finding, you'd be grateful in the
smallest of things, even in... I shouldn't
[58:35] say that, I was going to say a small John
Howard. The smallest of things.. [laughter].
[58:40] I shouldn't give him a hard time, he's not
a bad guy. And that way we can have a happier
[58:47] life and we can understand the role of emotions
in life, how to deal with them, how embrace
[58:54] them, how to generate the positive ones and
have a happy time. So may you all have a happy
[59:01] time by developing the positive emotions,
understanding the negative ones, and understanding
[59:05] how this all works. So that's the talk for
this evening, thank you very much for listening.
[59:09] Audience: Sadhu, Sadhu, Sadhu
[59:11] Ajahn Brahm: Okay as usual, are there any
questions or comments about the talk this
[59:17] evening on emotions?
[59:19] Yeah, okay.
[59:20] Man 1: ...[difficult to hear] (if we point
one finger at someone, three point back at
[59:26] us)...
[59:27] Ajahn Brahm: Yeah, you're talking about that
one. That's the old story. See three, you
[59:32] don't know what the thumb is doing, but one's
pointed that way.
[59:35] Man 1: [difficult to hear]
[59:39] Ajahn Brahm: Yes that's right, so if you criticise
somebody else.. This was actually a saying
[59:46] of the Emperor Ashoka. Who was a Buddhist,
was it it 200 years before the birth of...about
[59:54] 22 hundred years ago or something. And he
wrote in stone, we know what he said because
[59:59] those stone monuments are still there. Usually
in museums now, some are in their original
[1:00:04] place. He said this wonderful thing that anybody
who criticises another person's religion thereby
[1:00:13] criticises his own faith. That's a wonderful
thing to say 22 hundred years ago, what a
[1:00:19] beautiful way of tolerance. You criticise
somebody else's religion, then you're showing
[1:00:25] that your own faith is not really up to scratch.
It's not just religion - if you criticise
[1:00:30] somebody else then you're showing your own
understanding of life is lacking. How can
[1:00:40] you criticise others? How much do you know
about them, why they did that? How many times
[1:00:46] have you been criticised - unfairly? So why
do you go criticising others? Give them the
[1:00:49] benefit of the doubt. And you have a happy
life. And there's much doubt to give people
[1:01:04] the benefit of.. [laughter] Okay thank you
for that Eddy.
[1:01:11] We've got a question there, and then over
there, yes
[1:01:14] Man 2 [hard to hear]: Your Holiness, I was
intrigued by your labelling of grief as a
[1:01:16] negative emotion. The way I see it negative
emotions are destructive. Now when my mother
[1:01:23] died and I had grief, it wasn't a negative
emotion. Out of my grief came hope and inspiration,
[1:01:35] determination and respect and all those things
you talked about. And when a loved one dies
[1:01:53] and we have grief, I think, I put it to you
that we have grief because we have a connection,
[1:02:07] it's the spirit connection within us - it's
that God part in us that connects with the
[1:02:10] God part of that other person. So therefore
it's the passing of the spirit. That when
[1:02:13] we have grief over death it's about the passing
of that spirit which we accept. So I put it
[1:02:20] to you that grief is not a negative emotion
but it's intrinsic in the emotion of love
[1:02:53] because out of love comes joy and peace and
patience and kindness, gentleness, prayerfulness,
[1:02:57] goodness and understanding and self-control.
Now, in close, if you made a comment I'd appreciate
[1:03:03] it.
[1:03:04] But I've noticed that you've mentioned John
Howard, now I respect John Howard because
[1:03:05] firstly as a father, he's been a great father,
I'm a father, and secondly he's been a magnificent
[1:03:06] leader to this nation for a long period of
time, so I think we should respect him for
[1:03:07] who he is.
[1:03:08] Ajahn Brahm: I agree with you with respect
yes. Okay, it's a long question there and
[1:03:09] usually I try to repeat this for the tape
but that was too long a question to repeat
[1:03:13] it for and wouldn't actually catch it but
the first thing, I'm just going to do this
[1:03:17] in brief. The main question was about - is
grief intrinsic to love? And I certainly thought
[1:03:26] that way when I was very young, but I know
that I never had grief when my father died
[1:03:32] but I loved him very dearly. I couldn't understand
why that was, and only later on when I went
[1:03:38] to Buddhist countries and spent nine years
in the north-east of Thailand which unlike
[1:03:45] Sri Lanka had not been, I would say influenced
by "Western" civilisation. The West had never
[1:03:52] got to Thailand, or rather they never had
colonised it. And so it was, what I could
[1:03:57] actually possibly call a pure Buddhist culture
there. And in the nine years I was there I
[1:04:02] never saw grief.
[1:04:05] And this was living in a village very close
to those people, we were part of the family,
[1:04:12] and many times I saw people die. The funerals
were held in our monastery. I never saw tears.
[1:04:19] It wasn't part of their repertoire. That proved
to me was that grief is not intrinsic in the
[1:04:27] human condition. There was a culture which
didn't have it. And it wasn't just the funerals.
[1:04:33] You'd see them afterwards, the next day, weeks,
months, they were part of your family, the
[1:04:38] extended family of a monastery embedded in
a couple of villages in the north-east of
[1:04:44] Thailand. And those people loved each other,
but there is a another type of love, which
[1:04:52] is a love which will let go.. Which will let
a person go into a death. So grief is, and
[1:05:03] we're not saying that grief is wrong or bad.
We're saying that it's a negative emotion
[1:05:09] because it does, and I've seen it many times,
actually stop a person's growth for weeks,
[1:05:18] for years. You're disabled for the time that
you're grieving, until there usually comes
[1:05:28] a time when you transcend that, you go through
it, past it. And the quicker that happens,
[1:05:33] the better.. I would say.
And certainly if you look in the Buddhist
[1:05:40] texts the grief was never encouraged by the
Buddha. He would always actually say that
[1:05:49] the wise person is beyond that grief, could
understand the nature of life and death, and
[1:05:55] in that understanding could let that nature
be. And never fight battles which you can't
[1:06:05] win. There's a famous Buddhist story, it's
in the Dhammapada, I'll just go on with this,
[1:06:11] it's a man who cried for the moon. A man who
lost his only son, and would go to the cremation
[1:06:18] ground every evening to cry and cry and cry,
and his family let him cry for a while. But
[1:06:25] when he was crying overmuch they wanted to
find some way of overcoming his grief which
[1:06:33] was going on far too long, ruining his health
and his business as I've seen happen. They
[1:06:40] hired an actor and the actor went to the cremation
ground also, and the actor was crying more
[1:06:48] than the father who'd lost his son. When they
met together, these two men crying their eyes
[1:06:53] out, the actor crying more, the actor asked,
"what are you crying for?" He said, "I've
[1:06:59] lost my son. He's dead..". "What are you crying
for," said the father to the actor. "I'm crying
[1:07:06] for the moon". "What do you mean, crying for
the moon?" "It's my birthday last week, and
[1:07:12] my father asked me - what do you want? And
I said I want the moon please. And my father
[1:07:16] wouldn't get it for me, and I'm so upset..
I'm crying for the moon." And the father said,
[1:07:22] "You're stupid. You're crazy! Why are you
crying for? No-one can give you the moon!"
[1:07:29] "You call me crazy," said the actor, "You're
crying for your dead son. At least you can
[1:07:34] see the moon! Where is your dead son?" [laughter].
[1:07:42] And at that, this is a story, an old story,
in the Buddhist texts, at that, the man realised
[1:07:51] what he was doing, he was crying for something
you can never get. Grieving for something
[1:07:57] which you can't change. And that was enough
for him to stop his grief, go back to work,
[1:08:04] and move on with his life. The story of the
man who cried for the moon, in the Dhammapada.
[1:08:14] But as for John Howard, yeah we respect him,
but we crack jokes about him. People crack
[1:08:16] jokes about everybody in Australia. It's our
nation. You crack jokes about me, maybe not
[1:08:21] in public but I'm sure you do when you go
home. [Laughter]
[1:08:28] Okay so thank you. Do you mind if we don't
ask your question Derrick, because we've gone
[1:08:33] over time. So maybe can we.. sorry, no announcements,
so the announcement is - there is no announcements
[1:08:40] tonight! [Laughter]. So if you've got any
other questions or you'd like to discuss that
[1:08:45] matter with me afterwards sir, please come
up after the talk is finished.