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[0:13] Welcome
[0:15] to Satsang.
[0:20] It's so beautiful to be
[0:25] together with all of you.
[0:29] This is a time of diving deep together
[0:34] into that sacred
[0:38] sacred truth.
[0:40] Who are we?
[0:43] When we meditate,
[0:46] we meditate on co hum, so hum.
[0:51] Who am I?
[0:54] I am that.
[0:56] Who am I?
[0:57] I am that.
[0:59] But,
[1:01] in life, it's so easy to forget.
[1:04] You know, we we
[1:06] we know it in theory.
[1:09] But, as we move through our day, our
[1:11] jobs, our relationships, our to-do
[1:13] lists, we forget.
[1:15] And so, Satsang is a time of
[1:18] coming together with What are the
[1:21] What are the blocks? What are the
[1:23] moments
[1:25] in life
[1:27] that make us forget?
[1:29] And how can we use them
[1:32] to remember instead?
[1:34] So,
[1:37] starting as we always do with a
[1:41] question that comes in advance from our
[1:43] family joining us from
[1:46] across the world online.
[1:50] People send in questions on the website
[1:53] or email or
[1:55] social media or however it however they
[1:58] do it all, lots of different ways.
[2:01] And then we'll open it up after we take
[2:03] one of these in advance, we'll open it
[2:06] to
[2:07] any questions that any of you have.
[2:10] There's a microphone right here and
[2:13] as I always emphasize,
[2:15] don't be shy.
[2:17] If you're sitting here, you're sitting
[2:18] here for a reason.
[2:20] And if you're sitting here with a
[2:22] question,
[2:23] you're sitting here with a question
[2:26] for a reason.
[2:28] So,
[2:30] don't miss the opportunity and don't
[2:33] deprive others.
[2:35] Cuz all of us, the threads of our karmic
[2:37] journeys are interlinked.
[2:40] And if I'm sitting next to somebody
[2:41] who's got a question who's not answering
[2:43] it,
[2:44] well, my karmic journey might have been
[2:47] interwoven because I was meant
[2:52] to hear that question, to get an answer
[2:54] based on what this person was asking.
[2:58] So, it's not just depriving ourselves,
[3:00] but it's actually depriving
[3:02] others as well. So,
[3:12] I don't believe in God.
[3:15] How can I believe in God?
[3:22] I always choose the challenging ones.
[3:26] So,
[3:27] it's a great question.
[3:30] I'll begin by saying Pujya Swamiji
[3:33] always says,
[3:35] "Don't worry if you don't believe in God
[3:38] because God believes in you."
[3:41] So,
[3:43] if you are one of those, "I don't
[3:46] believe in God, but I wish I did. I wish
[3:49] I could. How can I start?"
[3:53] First of all, realize, don't worry,
[3:56] because even if you don't believe in
[3:58] God, God believes in you.
[4:01] But then, how do we start?
[4:04] How can I start believing? So, I'll tell
[4:06] you my personal
[4:08] personal experience with this.
[4:12] Because typically there's
[4:14] two ways into the divine.
[4:17] One is the the normal way, the standard
[4:20] way, the religious spiritual way that
[4:23] says, "I believe.
[4:27] I've been taught to believe. It's part
[4:29] of my system of belief.
[4:32] Or because I've actually had an
[4:34] experience.
[4:37] An experience of the divine."
[4:39] That's how most people end up believing.
[4:45] But it doesn't have to be only that.
[4:49] And I was someone, for example, who
[4:52] didn't believe. I was not raised in a
[4:55] religious family. I was not raised in a
[4:57] spiritual family. I was not raised with
[5:00] anybody who talked about God in any way
[5:03] other than just sort of fear.
[5:08] I certainly hadn't had any experiences
[5:10] of God that I was aware of, that I would
[5:13] have called experiences of God.
[5:17] Now, of course, I can look back and
[5:18] realize everything is an experience of
[5:21] God. But at the time, if you had said to
[5:24] me, "Have you experienced God?"
[5:28] I would have said, "No. I mean, like,
[5:29] what what even would that be like?"
[5:32] But here's how I came into it. Now,
[5:36] at that time, pre-India,
[5:39] cuz when I came to India, I was handed
[5:41] an experience.
[5:43] And the experience transformed me.
[5:45] But before that,
[5:47] I had come to a place in my life where
[5:50] I believed very deeply
[5:54] that there was what I used to call a
[5:57] capital P plan.
[6:00] And therefore, there must be a capital P
[6:04] planner.
[6:06] I wouldn't have necessarily called the
[6:08] planner God.
[6:11] But I didn't have any other name for it.
[6:13] And I wasn't very worried about the
[6:14] names.
[6:16] But I was most definitely not an
[6:19] atheist. I definitely believed. But I
[6:23] came to believe not through the
[6:25] religious or spiritual side.
[6:27] I came to believe through the scientific
[6:29] side.
[6:31] I was a scientist.
[6:33] And I had spent enough time
[6:37] in biology labs, in chemistry labs, in
[6:40] physics labs
[6:43] to know
[6:45] that even in a perfect school situation
[6:49] where you're given a list of like, "Put
[6:51] this in your crucible and that in your
[6:53] crucible and turn on your Bunsen
[6:55] burner."
[6:57] that the vast majority of time
[7:01] nothing happened.
[7:02] Like you're going back over the list.
[7:03] Something was supposed to happen. It
[7:05] didn't happen.
[7:08] Sometimes we'd get
[7:11] a little bit of smoke.
[7:13] Or maybe you'd get a bad smell.
[7:15] Or maybe you'd get a certain type of
[7:17] like colored smoke.
[7:21] But you never got life.
[7:24] We never created life
[7:29] in a crucible or a Petri dish.
[7:33] And what I started to realize as a
[7:36] scientist,
[7:38] as you start to think about the things
[7:42] that we're told,
[7:45] I
[7:46] Well, I certainly believe that evolution
[7:49] happens mostly the way that we're
[7:51] taught.
[7:54] We get better and better and better with
[7:56] time, better adapted,
[7:59] better equipped.
[8:05] But how did it start?
[8:07] I never believed in the randomness of it
[8:10] all. Because my feeling was if sitting
[8:12] in a science lab
[8:14] with full written instructions of what
[8:17] to do,
[8:18] with all of the different materials that
[8:20] you needed hand-picked and given to you
[8:22] in the lab,
[8:24] Bunsen burner on site, beaker on site,
[8:27] crucible on site, all the elements on
[8:29] site,
[8:34] and not even just our, you know,
[8:35] university labs, you think about the
[8:37] best science labs in the world,
[8:42] nobody can create life.
[8:45] The best they could do was they managed
[8:48] to make a few Xerox copies a few times.
[8:52] There were moments of cloning,
[8:54] right?
[8:55] We could we could Xerox something we
[8:58] had, basically.
[9:00] But to date,
[9:04] thousands of years into science
[9:06] research, hundreds of years into what
[9:09] you would call modern scientific
[9:11] research,
[9:12] no one has yet to create
[9:16] even a mosquito
[9:19] in a crucible or a Petri dish.
[9:22] Or a leaf, a leaf that can do
[9:24] photosynthesis,
[9:26] that's actually living.
[9:29] We can't create life.
[9:31] And so the idea to me that
[9:35] somehow
[9:36] randomly elements just randomly hitting
[9:40] each other
[9:41] had made something
[9:44] that in hundreds of years of modern
[9:46] science with telescopes and microscopes
[9:50] we couldn't reproduce?
[9:53] Didn't make sense to me as a scientist.
[9:55] And so when you say, "How do I believe
[9:58] in God?" Well, if you're asking this
[10:00] question, chances are
[10:03] you're not coming from a place of deep
[10:05] religious grounding
[10:08] or you'd already believe.
[10:10] You're not coming from a place of
[10:12] personal experience
[10:14] or you'd already believe.
[10:16] And so ask yourself on a purely logical
[10:20] standpoint,
[10:23] does the argument
[10:25] does the theory
[10:28] of all of this, the perfection
[10:31] of caterpillars knowing how to weave a
[10:34] cocoon, how to come out as a butterfly,
[10:36] how to fly
[10:39] random?
[10:41] Random? It just happened?
[10:45] Seeds
[10:46] sprouting,
[10:47] becoming trees
[10:49] the apple seed knowing that it's
[10:51] supposed to give apples, the orange seed
[10:53] knowing it's supposed to give oranges
[10:55] not apples.
[10:57] And never a mistake, not one.
[11:01] You never see by accident oranges coming
[11:03] out of an apple seed.
[11:06] You never see by accident a dog walking
[11:10] out of a chicken's egg.
[11:13] Somehow
[11:15] it all works perfectly.
[11:18] And so ask yourself,
[11:21] does the logical scientist in me believe
[11:27] that this all happened randomly?
[11:30] And for me as a scientist, the answer
[11:32] was always no. So,
[11:35] if you can't use
[11:38] religious experience or spiritual
[11:40] experience to believe, no problem. Go in
[11:43] with science.
[11:45] Last piece that I would say is,
[11:49] if you're really looking to believe,
[11:52] the very best way
[11:54] is to have an experience.
[11:56] Because then, no matter what anybody
[11:58] says,
[12:00] no matter what doesn't make sense or
[12:03] holds up under
[12:06] great,
[12:08] you know, cynicism or skepticism or
[12:13] doesn't matter.
[12:14] Cuz if you've had an experience,
[12:18] I mean, if anybody tried to convince any
[12:21] of us that love was simply a figment of
[12:24] our imaginations,
[12:27] it wouldn't really impact us because
[12:29] because we've all experienced love at
[12:31] some point in our life, whether for a
[12:32] parent,
[12:34] a child, a pet, a sibling, a loved one,
[12:37] a best friend.
[12:40] We've all at some point experienced
[12:42] love.
[12:43] And so, if someone says to you, "Ah, it
[12:45] doesn't exist. It's just a fake
[12:47] construct." You say, "Oh, yeah, you can
[12:49] believe whatever you want, but I've
[12:50] experienced it. Like, I know it exists."
[12:56] So, the best thing you can do is put
[12:59] yourself in situations
[13:03] in which you're open
[13:05] to the experience
[13:08] of being in the presence of the divine.
[13:11] Cuz then, you don't need to use your
[13:13] logical mind to believe it.
[13:16] Cuz then, you know it.
[13:20] Yeah, great question. Other questions?
[13:24] Any question that anyone has.
[13:31] Yeah, come, please.
[13:38] Namaste.
[13:40] >> Uh we are coming from Tamil Nadu.
[13:41] >> Okay, wonderful.
[13:42] >> Okay. Actually, last 3 years we are
[13:44] coming here.
[13:46] And
[13:47] uh we are having awesome in
[13:49] uh
[13:49] in
[13:50] Tamil Nadu also. We are doing
[13:52] meditation.
[13:53] But last 3 years what we are facing is
[13:56] so much of heat
[13:57] we are not able to meditate at all.
[13:59] But here when you when we come because
[14:01] of the Ganga and this cold environment,
[14:04] we are able to meditate.
[14:06] Uh so as I said last 3 years we are
[14:08] having high temperatures over there.
[14:11] Uh we are not able to even our body
[14:13] conditions also not
[14:15] like because stable due to the over
[14:18] temperature. We are not able to do any
[14:19] practice at all.
[14:20] >> Yeah.
[14:21] >> So in such a
[14:23] place, how do we retain these
[14:25] conditions?
[14:26] >> Great question. Great question.
[14:30] So it's too hot to meditate
[14:34] in Tamil Nadu where he is.
[14:39] There's two different pieces to this
[14:41] answer.
[14:43] Number one is the piece of
[14:47] whatever situation we are in,
[14:51] we should be able to meditate.
[14:53] That's the ideal. That's what it was
[14:55] given to us for.
[14:58] Meditation was not handed to us as do
[15:02] this
[15:05] on the days that it feels comfortable
[15:07] to.
[15:08] Do this when things are going well. Do
[15:11] this when you've had a good night's
[15:12] sleep. Do this when you are already in
[15:15] kind of a calm mood. Do this when you're
[15:17] not sweating too much.
[15:20] It was handed to us as a way
[15:24] of dealing with
[15:27] the fire,
[15:28] the heat
[15:30] inside of us
[15:33] and outside of us.
[15:37] But it's absolutely more challenging.
[15:39] It's one of the reasons, you know,
[15:42] Shri B.K.S. Iyengarji, the founder of
[15:45] Iyengar system of yoga,
[15:50] people used to say he's so focused
[15:54] only on the physical body.
[15:57] Why the body? Why such a an emphasis on
[16:00] the body?
[16:02] And his point was brilliant.
[16:05] He said, "Because if you sit to meditate
[16:09] and your back hurts,
[16:11] or your knees hurt,
[16:14] or your hips hurt, or you can't even sit
[16:18] because your legs won't even cross,
[16:22] you can't meditate.
[16:24] If you're so overcome with pain,
[16:28] you're not going to be able to meditate.
[16:30] So, let me help you create a body that
[16:35] is able to sit still long enough
[16:40] that you can meditate."
[16:42] So, we know that
[16:47] illness, pain,
[16:50] discomfort
[16:52] in the body and in the mind
[16:58] absolutely is a huge obstacle to
[17:00] meditation.
[17:02] And
[17:04] we have to meditate anyway.
[17:06] Because the point of meditation is that
[17:09] no matter what is going on in our bodies
[17:12] or in our minds,
[17:15] that we're able to access that,
[17:18] which isn't our body. Because that's
[17:21] what meditation shows us
[17:23] is who are you
[17:26] that isn't the body?
[17:28] That isn't your size or your shape or
[17:30] your color or your gender or your race
[17:33] or your religion.
[17:36] But that also isn't your temperature.
[17:39] And that isn't the sweat pouring down
[17:41] your back.
[17:44] Who are you
[17:47] that isn't
[17:49] the aching knees
[17:52] or the upset stomach
[17:55] or the grief over the loss of a loved
[17:57] one.
[17:59] Who are you who wasn't just fired from
[18:04] your job,
[18:06] left by a loved one.
[18:09] Cuz that's what meditation is for.
[18:12] Is it enables us to peel back the roles,
[18:17] peel back the attachment to the body.
[18:21] And whether it's the body in terms of my
[18:23] job, my relationships, my finances, my
[18:26] success,
[18:28] or whether it's the body literally like
[18:30] I am sweating,
[18:32] or I am in pain.
[18:35] Either way,
[18:36] meditation is meant to show us that,
[18:40] which is not the body.
[18:43] So, meditate anyway.
[18:45] And I'll give you actually also a
[18:47] personal personal story. So,
[18:50] in this very hall
[18:52] at 5:00 in the morning,
[18:55] we have the very traditional morning
[18:59] universal prayers.
[19:01] They used to be mandatory. When I first
[19:04] came here 30 years ago, the morning
[19:05] prayers were mandatory.
[19:08] Women this side, men this side.
[19:11] 30 minutes of
[19:13] a mix of Hindi and Sanskrit prayers and
[19:17] chants. And then 30 minutes of a
[19:20] discourse
[19:22] in Hindi.
[19:24] I didn't speak a word of Hindi, not a
[19:25] word. Namaste. I mean, I could Then a
[19:28] couple weeks later I learned dhanyavad.
[19:30] But like that was the beginning and the
[19:31] end of my Hindi.
[19:34] And I had no experience whatsoever
[19:39] in sitting on the ground.
[19:43] It's not something that in America we
[19:45] ever did.
[19:47] I didn't have a body that was used to
[19:49] it.
[19:50] And so I'd come and I'd sit.
[19:52] And what I discovered was, I mean, I was
[19:56] already a hatha yoga student, so I had
[19:58] some flexibility. I had done martial
[20:00] arts earlier in my life.
[20:02] And I found that I could sit
[20:05] 20, 25, 30 minutes or so, depending on
[20:08] the day,
[20:09] before I needed to change the cross of
[20:12] my legs, before they started aching too
[20:14] much.
[20:20] Typically,
[20:22] I could just easily, you know, just
[20:24] change the cross of your legs in the
[20:25] middle.
[20:26] However,
[20:27] sometimes,
[20:29] frequently in fact, it was so packed
[20:33] that there would be literally another
[20:34] woman like here.
[20:38] I kid you not.
[20:39] And in order to change the cross of my
[20:42] legs, I would essentially be like
[20:45] sticking my feet even momentarily
[20:48] into her rear end, not so polite.
[20:51] So, I couldn't do it.
[20:57] And in the beginning,
[21:00] it ached a lot.
[21:02] Hip would burn, knee would ache,
[21:04] everything hurt.
[21:07] And what I would try to do
[21:09] is ignore it.
[21:11] I'm not thinking about you. I'm not
[21:13] thinking about you. I'm not thinking
[21:14] about
[21:16] And as anybody who's ever tried to
[21:18] ignore anything knows, all that does is
[21:21] make it worse.
[21:25] And some at some point, I don't know
[21:28] how, but I got this divine
[21:32] message revelation download
[21:36] that said, "Instead of turning away from
[21:40] it,
[21:42] turn toward it."
[21:51] Instead of turning away from it,
[21:54] turn toward it.
[21:57] Instead of trying not to think about it,
[22:00] let that become your meditation.
[22:04] And so what I started doing was I
[22:06] started
[22:08] kind of playing with it.
[22:11] And I would go straight into the pain.
[22:15] And I would say things like,
[22:18] "Is this all you got?
[22:21] Can't you get any hotter than that?
[22:24] Oh, come on. Show me your best. Like,
[22:26] what do you got in there?
[22:28] You're burning, but I'm still here.
[22:32] You're aching, but I'm still here.
[22:35] I see you that ache, but I'm still here.
[22:39] And I would I would start
[22:43] kind of taunting it, playing with it.
[22:46] And what I discovered was something very
[22:48] interesting.
[22:50] It went away.
[22:53] It got less. When I turned away from it,
[22:55] it got more. I turned toward it,
[22:59] it got less.
[23:02] And so what I would say is when it's
[23:04] really hot
[23:07] and you find yourself just melting
[23:13] and you sit to meditate
[23:15] let the heat be the meditation. Dive
[23:18] into it, no problem.
[23:20] Pretend it's a Ganga.
[23:24] A warm Ganga washing over you.
[23:27] Oh Ganga, I feel you flowing down my
[23:29] shins.
[23:32] Oh Ganga, I feel you flowing down my
[23:34] spine.
[23:37] Oh Ganga
[23:39] feel you with me, right?
[23:41] Oh, I'm sitting in a pool of Ganga.
[23:47] Go into it. Don't turn away from it.
[23:50] What we resist, they say what you resist
[23:53] persists.
[23:55] The more you turn away, the
[23:58] stronger it gets.
[24:00] It's hot, okay.
[24:02] It's hot.
[24:03] You know, they we've got these wonderful
[24:05] stories of the Tibetan monks who sit in
[24:07] the snow
[24:10] up in the mountains, in the snow
[24:13] with wet towels on their bare backs and
[24:17] generate enough heat
[24:20] to dry the towels on their backs in the
[24:22] snow.
[24:27] It's the advanced phase.
[24:30] But I'm not asking you to cool the room.
[24:33] Just asking you to be able to be present
[24:36] in the heat.
[24:39] And if the meditation is om heat
[24:43] om heat, om gardez-moi or however you
[24:46] say it in Tamil. Om ga
[24:48] Okay.
[24:50] So it is.
[24:52] But don't let anything take you away
[24:54] from it. And then lastly
[24:58] this is happening
[24:59] because of climate change. And so, while
[25:02] meditation
[25:04] teaches us to be present with what is
[25:07] without trying to change it,
[25:09] when we stand up from our meditation, we
[25:12] realize we have a problem here.
[25:15] Our cities are running out of water.
[25:19] Sea levels are rising.
[25:21] Temperatures are increasing.
[25:23] People are getting sick and dying.
[25:28] What to do?
[25:30] Plant more trees.
[25:33] Use fewer fossil fuels.
[25:36] Start living a much more eco-friendly,
[25:39] eco-conscious life.
[25:42] Do seva for organizations that are
[25:45] protecting the environment.
[25:47] Just because our meditation teaches us
[25:50] to be present,
[25:52] doesn't mean that we stop acting.
[25:55] We just don't act while we're meditating
[25:56] in that moment.
[25:58] But as we rise from it,
[26:01] then we have to fix fix the situation.
[26:03] Today it's in Tamil Nadu, tomorrow it's
[26:05] going to be
[26:06] in Himachal Pradesh.
[26:10] It's not more than a few years before we
[26:12] have the same problem right up here in
[26:13] the mountains.
[26:16] So, we have to actually fix it.
[26:20] But as we're working to fix it, not let
[26:23] it steal our meditation.
[26:27] Yeah, great question.
[26:30] Other questions?
[26:39] Ah, yes. Come.
[26:41] Is sound good with you, brother?
[26:46] >> Hello.
[26:48] Um my question yesterday was in
[26:51] connection to the animals and the fire
[26:55] and the passion of
[26:57] the individual. Um and the question is
[27:00] pertaining to Dharma and what are the
[27:02] universal little hints that point us to
[27:06] the Dharma or um basically what is what
[27:10] is that?
[27:11] Great.
[27:12] So, Dharma.
[27:20] Dharma is translated in English in so
[27:23] many ways and none of them actually
[27:28] encompasses it. So, I'm going to I'm
[27:30] going to throw a bunch of words at you.
[27:34] And the definition of Dharma is going to
[27:36] be
[27:38] a a
[27:39] merging and melding and constellation of
[27:43] all of these words, not any of them
[27:45] individually.
[27:48] Highest purpose.
[27:51] Deepest truth.
[27:53] Right path.
[27:57] Duty and responsibility.
[28:00] Core essence.
[28:03] If you take all of those and you put
[28:06] them together,
[28:09] you start to begin to understand what
[28:11] Dharma is. So, it's who we are
[28:16] and it's what we're supposed to do.
[28:19] It's
[28:21] the universal umbrella of what you would
[28:24] consider righteousness,
[28:28] a moral life, an ethical life, a yogic
[28:31] life.
[28:32] And on the individual level,
[28:37] it's the rose becoming a rose, it's the
[28:39] jasmine becoming a jasmine, it's the
[28:41] apple seed becoming an apple tree.
[28:44] It's all of that.
[28:47] Global level, individual level,
[28:50] core essence level, action level.
[28:54] All of them weave into the definition of
[28:57] dharma.
[29:01] We think about it sometimes as purpose,
[29:04] but purpose is only a piece of it cuz
[29:07] purpose is the what to do.
[29:10] Whereas dharma is also the who I am.
[29:14] And like purpose, though,
[29:17] our dharma can change throughout our
[29:19] lives. So, for example,
[29:23] in Indian tradition,
[29:25] we speak about four phases of life or
[29:28] four ashrams of life
[29:31] or four dharmas of life.
[29:33] First phase,
[29:35] brahmacharya ashram.
[29:38] Brahmacharya dharma.
[29:41] Your student years.
[29:44] During which your dharma is to study.
[29:48] Study, study, study.
[29:52] In school, in books,
[29:54] and in life.
[29:56] This swadhyaya,
[29:59] self-study.
[30:01] So, it's not just book knowledge. It's
[30:02] knowledge of the self. Who am I?
[30:05] It's why traditionally
[30:08] kids were sent not just to school, but
[30:11] they were sent to live with the guru.
[30:14] To get an education of books, but also
[30:17] an education of self.
[30:20] Then we have the grihastha ashram phase
[30:23] or grihastha dharma.
[30:26] It's your householder phase of life.
[30:28] Your dharma
[30:30] is to be married, have kids, have a job,
[30:33] make money, donate some of that money to
[30:36] worthwhile causes, help the community,
[30:40] be an active, engaged,
[30:43] >> [snorts]
[30:43] >> positive
[30:45] member of your family,
[30:47] member of your extended family, member
[30:49] of your community.
[30:53] Then we have vanaprastha ashram or
[30:56] vanaprastha dharma.
[30:58] It's kind of retirement age.
[31:02] Kids are grown if you had them.
[31:05] They don't need you to be packing
[31:06] lunches or changing diapers.
[31:10] Money's been made.
[31:12] Food's been put on the table. Things
[31:14] have been taken care of. There's a bit
[31:16] of a nest egg.
[31:20] These are not the days to be putting in,
[31:22] you know, 100-hour work weeks.
[31:25] These are the days to start slowly,
[31:28] slowly looking at how to get more and
[31:31] more
[31:34] withdrawn from it
[31:35] so that you can dive more deeply within
[31:37] the self.
[31:39] And then the final phase, the sannyasa
[31:41] ashram phase,
[31:43] the landing phase of life, as Pujya
[31:45] Swamiji says.
[31:47] You never know. You never know when it's
[31:49] going to end. So, you want to You want
[31:50] to end it in a way in which you don't
[31:53] have your fingers gripped on something
[31:55] here,
[31:57] and that you're really clear with who is
[32:00] the I
[32:02] who's going on the next phase of the
[32:04] journey, cuz the body's not going.
[32:06] The skills, the abilities, the bank
[32:08] account, not going.
[32:10] House isn't going. Car isn't going.
[32:12] Who's the I who goes on the next phase
[32:15] of the body I mean, the next phase of
[32:17] the journey
[32:18] when the body's been burned.
[32:21] But,
[32:25] in addition to that,
[32:27] in addition to all of that,
[32:28] we also have another way of thinking
[32:30] about it. We talk about the purusharths,
[32:33] the four goals of life,
[32:35] the right goals of life,
[32:37] Dharma.
[32:39] Arth, Dharma we've defined, Arth. Arth
[32:43] means wealth basically.
[32:46] Prosperity, it's the stuff you get.
[32:48] Absolutely no problem, have it. However
[32:50] much
[32:51] you are meant to have.
[32:53] Let it come so that you can then share,
[32:56] so that you can do your Dharma.
[33:00] Kama
[33:02] the pleasures of life, the enjoyment of
[33:06] life.
[33:07] Moksha,
[33:09] liberation, awakening.
[33:11] These are the goals.
[33:13] At every phase, certainly at certain
[33:15] phases we're more inclined towards
[33:18] certain goals, but ultimately throughout
[33:20] our life
[33:22] these four goals
[33:24] should be in operation. So, I'm giving
[33:26] you a lot of different pieces so that
[33:29] you understand how big the concept of
[33:32] Dharma is.
[33:36] To me, the most critical important part
[33:39] of it, specifically in the way that
[33:41] you've asked about it in terms of
[33:45] animals are being hurt, people are being
[33:47] hurt, climate change, this, that
[33:50] is summed up
[33:53] in what I call the yes and
[33:59] school of spirituality.
[34:02] Yes and.
[34:04] And
[34:05] it's not my school. I mean, it's
[34:07] certainly the one that I live in, learn
[34:10] from, teach from, but I didn't create
[34:13] it.
[34:15] I gave it the cute name, but I didn't
[34:17] create it. It goes as far back
[34:21] as Bhagwan Krishna in the Bhagavad Gita
[34:25] who tells Arjuna in perhaps my most
[34:28] favorite
[34:30] simple, simple, simple teaching.
[34:34] Mamman is smart, you the acharya.
[34:37] Remember me,
[34:39] fight the war.
[34:40] Yes, and yes, it's all God. Remember me.
[34:45] Krishna is telling Arjun.
[34:47] Arjun's the warrior. He's afraid.
[34:50] He doesn't want to fight. He's standing
[34:52] in the middle of a battlefield and he
[34:54] says, "I'm
[34:56] I'm shaking.
[34:58] Today we would call it a panic attack.
[35:01] Literally, physiologically, he had a
[35:03] panic attack.
[35:06] He was sweating, his heart rate was up,
[35:08] he had goosebumps.
[35:10] He literally said, "The hair is standing
[35:12] up on my arms."
[35:19] And in response to his panic attack and
[35:22] his inclination,
[35:25] as anyone who's ever had a panic attack
[35:27] knows,
[35:29] is to say, "Forget it. Whatever I was
[35:31] doing that created this experience in
[35:33] me, forget it. It's not worth it.
[35:38] I'm going to go off and meditate in the
[35:40] cave."
[35:44] And Krishna,
[35:45] the divine,
[35:48] says,
[35:50] "Not so fast.
[35:53] You're going to stand right here.
[35:57] And you're going to do your dharma
[36:01] to fight this war."
[36:03] And we get 700 verses of the Bhagavad
[36:06] Gita
[36:08] that to me really are summed up
[36:13] in the Mamman is smart, you the acharya.
[36:16] Remember me. It means all of these
[36:19] hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of
[36:21] verses that we're given about what is
[36:23] the divine,
[36:24] the nature of the soul, the nature of
[36:27] infinite reality.
[36:29] The nature of consciousness.
[36:32] The nature of the divine.
[36:35] The nature of the perfection of the
[36:37] divine.
[36:40] Remember me.
[36:42] And
[36:44] So yes, it's all God. Aham Brahma Asmi.
[36:48] Tat Tvam Asi. I am Brahman. Thou art
[36:51] that. There is nothing but God. And
[36:55] pick up those arrows and bow.
[36:59] Aim. Fire.
[37:02] Yes, and
[37:04] remember me.
[37:06] It's all the divine.
[37:08] And
[37:11] do your duty.
[37:13] Fulfill your dharma.
[37:18] On the the one level, doesn't matter.
[37:22] Arjuna says, "I could die.
[37:25] I could kill them."
[37:28] Krishna gives
[37:30] full beautiful chapter pretty much.
[37:33] Chapter two of the Bhagavad Gita, why
[37:35] you are not the one who's going to die
[37:37] ever.
[37:40] You are not the one who is born. You are
[37:42] not the one who dies. You are that.
[37:45] Cannot be burned by fire. Cannot be wet
[37:48] by water.
[37:49] Cannot be cut with knives. Cannot be
[37:51] dried by the wind.
[37:57] And you're going to kill them? Like
[37:59] really?
[38:00] Who died and left you God?
[38:03] Who died and left you in charge of who
[38:05] lives and who dies?
[38:09] Where'd that delusion come from?
[38:12] I mean really, it's this very hard core
[38:14] like and exactly who do you think you
[38:17] are who gets to decide who lives and who
[38:19] dies?
[38:21] Get out of the illusion.
[38:23] Get out of the delusion.
[38:24] You are at best an instrument in my
[38:28] hands. Nimit.
[38:30] Be an instrument.
[38:33] Yes, and it's all God, it's all perfect.
[38:38] It's all unchanging, it's eternal, it's
[38:41] infinite. You are inseparable from the
[38:44] ocean.
[38:46] You are the ocean.
[38:48] And
[38:50] in this wave form that you have taken at
[38:53] this moment.
[38:56] Your duty, your dharma
[38:58] is to fight this war.
[39:01] Not half-heartedly.
[39:03] Not haphazardly.
[39:06] Not
[39:07] indifferently.
[39:10] But fully and completely to the very
[39:13] best of everything you've got,
[39:15] selflessly.
[39:19] And he gives these beautiful, beautiful,
[39:22] I mean, on and on about
[39:25] how one not only should fight a battle,
[39:27] but how to live.
[39:29] The compassion, the friendliness, the
[39:32] forgiveness, the equanimity. I mean, he
[39:35] really gives us lists
[39:39] of how to do this wave thing.
[39:43] And
[39:45] remember it's all an illusion, you're
[39:46] actually ocean.
[39:51] And
[39:55] get up and fight.
[39:57] And so it's this beautiful way. So
[40:00] that's That to me is where dharma lies.
[40:04] Is in the awareness of the true essence.
[40:08] Because otherwise I'm the doer.
[40:10] Otherwise, like, "Hey, did you notice
[40:12] I'm the I'm the one doing everything.
[40:15] Where's my gold star? Where's my
[40:17] appreciation? Why am I the one who has
[40:19] to do everything? It's not fair.
[40:22] His seva is more fun than my seva. It's
[40:25] not fair.
[40:27] Why is she getting credit for work I
[40:29] did? It's not fair.
[40:32] Right? You see, otherwise it it just
[40:33] pollutes our minds and our lives.
[40:39] So, we remember.
[40:42] Doing is happening
[40:43] through me.
[40:45] With my full surrender,
[40:48] full sincerity,
[40:50] but I am not the doer.
[40:52] I am the one through whom doing is
[40:55] happening. And when I'm in alignment,
[40:58] grounded, anchored, surrendered, then
[41:01] the doing that is happening through me
[41:04] is my dharma.
[41:08] Does that make sense?
[41:09] >> Yes.
[41:09] >> Good.
[41:09] >> Thank you.
[41:10] >> Yes, of course.
[41:12] Yes.
[41:32] >> Pranam.
[41:34] Uh so, for whatever you said towards the
[41:37] end, I am very keen to know if someone
[41:39] else's non-mindfulness
[41:41] is considered your own karmic fruit.
[41:44] Because for all the injustice going on
[41:47] in the world with whosoever uh any
[41:49] innocent, is it their karmic mindfulness
[41:52] to bear or is it that the person is not
[41:55] being mindful?
[41:57] >> Great.
[42:01] Yes.
[42:05] Yes.
[42:08] Yes, it is the person not being mindful.
[42:12] Or skillful.
[42:14] Or present.
[42:15] or that they don't have in their karmic
[42:17] toolbox that which is required in the
[42:20] moment.
[42:22] Maybe patience is required.
[42:25] Maybe loyalty is required.
[42:28] Maybe compassion is required.
[42:31] Maybe tenderness is required.
[42:34] Maybe justice is required.
[42:36] But maybe their toolbox doesn't have any
[42:38] of those things.
[42:40] Maybe all they've got is anger,
[42:43] fear,
[42:45] violence, impatience,
[42:48] hatred of self and others.
[42:51] So whether it's their lack of
[42:53] mindfulness,
[42:55] whether it's their lack of skillfulness,
[42:58] whether it's their empty toolbox,
[43:02] they are the ones
[43:05] bringing that pain, that harm,
[43:09] that lack of skillfulness
[43:12] that
[43:12] has ripple impacts of suffering
[43:15] into that moment.
[43:17] And yes, it is your karmic package
[43:24] that has made your karmic thread
[43:27] interweave with their karmic thread
[43:30] into a tapestry
[43:34] of lessons for you, karmic experiences
[43:38] for you that teach you,
[43:41] that help you grow,
[43:43] that make you go deeper and deeper.
[43:47] But it isn't
[43:48] reward or punishment.
[43:51] And it is not meant to make us be
[43:55] complacent
[43:57] or lazy.
[43:59] So
[44:01] right here, right now, in this moment,
[44:06] you are in a situation
[44:10] that your karmic package has created
[44:15] based on all of your past actions
[44:18] all of the fruits of those actions
[44:22] that which is most conducive for you
[44:26] to take your next step closer to the
[44:28] divine
[44:30] intersecting
[44:32] with the karmic threads of all these
[44:34] other people
[44:36] those you walked in here knowing those
[44:38] you walked in not knowing
[44:40] the questions that came before yours
[44:41] your question for them
[44:44] intersecting
[44:45] karmic threads.
[44:48] However
[44:51] that awareness and that truth
[44:55] brings us to and explains
[44:59] this very moment.
[45:03] And let's assume that you come in here
[45:05] and you sit down
[45:07] cuz this is the karmic fruit
[45:09] and it turns out that where you're
[45:12] sitting
[45:14] there's a leak
[45:16] and it's raining
[45:19] and water is dripping on your head from
[45:21] the leak above
[45:24] or there's a person sitting next to you
[45:26] who's fallen asleep and is snoring
[45:29] really loudly
[45:31] and you can't hear anything that's going
[45:33] on cuz the guy next sitting next to you
[45:35] is snoring so loudly
[45:37] or you're sitting next to a kid who
[45:39] keeps
[45:40] you know, poking you in the stomach
[45:42] every time you try to close your eyes
[45:44] and meditate and they're just you know,
[45:46] poking you all over the place.
[45:50] Just because
[45:52] it is your karmic journey that has
[45:55] brought you here
[45:57] doesn't mean
[45:59] that you shouldn't get up and change
[46:01] seats.
[46:08] Did you land up here and in that seat
[46:11] because of intersecting karmic threads?
[46:14] Absolutely.
[46:16] Is it somebody else's lack of
[46:19] mindfulness, lack of skillfulness that's
[46:22] causing them to snore or poke you?
[46:25] That may be just a lack of maturity.
[46:29] Lack of good contracting makes the leaf
[46:32] the the roof leak.
[46:34] Yes and yes.
[46:37] But you also have free will.
[46:40] And that free will is what you use to
[46:42] create the next moment
[46:44] and the next moment.
[46:47] And just because you are sitting next to
[46:49] someone
[46:51] who's troubling you in this moment
[46:54] or under a leaky roof
[46:57] doesn't mean you have to stay put.
[46:59] Change seats.
[47:02] Whip out your umbrella.
[47:07] Tell the kids' mother to make them stop
[47:09] poking you. Whatever you need to do.
[47:10] Wake up the guy who's snoring.
[47:13] There's nothing in our scriptures that
[47:15] says thou shalt be complacent.
[47:21] I think
[47:22] thou shalt just accept and tolerate all
[47:26] forms of harm and abuse without ever
[47:28] trying to do anything.
[47:31] I think says that. The Bhagavad Gita's a
[47:33] the
[47:34] treatise given on a battlefield to a
[47:36] warrior. Stand up. Fight.
[47:39] Those guys are going against dharma.
[47:44] Fix it.
[47:48] And whether it's climate change
[47:51] whether it's somebody harming you or
[47:54] harming others
[47:57] we can't always change it. I was talking
[47:59] last night.
[48:01] There's so much we cannot change.
[48:05] But it doesn't mean that we give up the
[48:06] idea of changing anything.
[48:10] We change what we can.
[48:15] Without hating those who have made the
[48:17] situation the way it is.
[48:20] Cuz as I was saying last night that
[48:21] hatred is a very fast burning fuel and
[48:24] then you're over or you're finished and
[48:27] you have no more energy left
[48:29] to bring the changes that you need to
[48:31] bring.
[48:32] To do the work you need to do.
[48:40] So we realize we're here in this moment
[48:42] from the
[48:43] karma
[48:45] of the past, the karmic fruits of the
[48:47] past.
[48:48] And then we say, "Okay, right here,
[48:49] right now.
[48:52] How can I use my dharma,
[48:55] my free will,
[48:58] my shakti, my buddhi,
[49:02] my power, my intelligence
[49:07] to create a better tomorrow,
[49:10] a better next week,
[49:12] a better next month?
[49:16] Cuz that's what we're called to do.
[49:18] That's the end of the yes and. Yes, it's
[49:20] all the divine. Yes, it's all God and
[49:24] stand up and fight this way.
[49:30] Yes, beautiful.
[49:32] So we're going to
[49:34] we're going to bring satsang to an end
[49:37] for this evening.
[49:39] But the questions that we didn't have a
[49:40] chance to take, we will
[49:43] start with tomorrow morning and
[49:45] tomorrow. I see one was there and one
[49:47] was there. We'll start with your
[49:50] questions tomorrow and if
[49:52] by chance you can't be here tomorrow
[49:56] you can give your questions in in
[49:58] writing give them to our save
[50:02] box in the back where you can put them
[50:06] and we'll take them then they'll end up
[50:07] on this
[50:08] wonderful piece of paper that we always
[50:10] start with
[50:12] and
[50:13] we'll keep taking them.
[50:16] And so
[50:18] so much love to all of you.
[50:20] We do live stream this as mentioned for
[50:24] our
[50:25] sisters and brothers who can't be here
[50:26] personally which means when you leave
[50:31] stay connected.
[50:34] Send in whatever question arises for
[50:36] you. Our our goal is not just
[50:40] a one-off situation.
[50:43] The goal is the building of community.
[50:45] That's Sangha.
[50:47] So that you know
[50:49] there's always a place a physical place
[50:52] to come
[50:53] and when you can't come physically
[50:56] that online
[50:59] through all of these the actual positive
[51:01] side of technology and social media all
[51:04] the different channels and ways
[51:07] that you can stay connected. So
[51:11] have a beautiful beautiful night
[51:14] and I look so forward to seeing
[51:17] hopefully most of you tomorrow.