Transcript
[0:22] I first want to say thank you to you and
[0:25] the SA.
[0:26] >> Yeah. for creating this man-made
[0:30] paradise on earth.
[0:31] >> Mhm. Why?
[0:34] Why we would do?
[0:37] >> For for me it's because it gives me a
[0:41] lot of hope that mankind
[0:45] can bring with heart, soul and body and
[0:48] mind
[0:50] >> this kind of creation when it has the
[0:53] right energy in it. It reminds me
[0:54] somebody once said um
[1:01] what is the future for mankind to Papa G
[1:05] and he says mankind must become kind man
[1:11] >> what is kind man
[1:14] this is not male female this got nothing
[1:16] to do with gender
[1:19] how what is kind.
[1:24] You use a word because it triggered
[1:25] little something. You know
[1:29] that gives the humankind
[1:32] a maybe a taste that there is something
[1:35] possible. Keep going in the direction.
[1:38] Keep coming in this direction. Let's see
[1:40] how far you must come
[1:44] because there is a point where you could
[1:47] not have been in a conversation like
[1:49] this. Now you are able your being can
[1:52] bear the seeming challenge of being in
[1:55] an environment like that where we're
[1:57] looking. Some people not ready for that.
[2:00] Is it bad luck? No, they're just not
[2:02] ready for that. Now is your turn. Now
[2:04] see what we can do to look.
[2:10] So my question is I can see it all. I'm
[2:18] aware of a lot
[2:22] body, mind,
[2:24] light, thoughts, uh
[2:26] >> yeah,
[2:26] >> whatever pain uh stress right now.
[2:31] >> Is it a particular skill you have or
[2:32] it's just generally everybody can do?
[2:35] >> You're aware. Did you train for this
[2:38] awareness?
[2:39] to be aware when you're sick or feeling
[2:41] cold or sometimes. Did we go to school
[2:43] to learn that? No. It's inherent in the
[2:47] consciousness that you are.
[2:49] Nobody to teach you when you're hungry
[2:52] or when you're satisfied
[2:54] like that. So something is already there
[2:57] working like that and it has a lot more
[2:59] to offer as much as you want. as inside
[3:04] yourself you're growing
[3:07] not just to attain the fruits the
[3:09] phenomenal fruits of the earth
[3:11] consciousness but for something even
[3:13] deeper than that now you don't mind of
[3:16] course in the meantime enjoy earth
[3:18] consciousness also enjoy earth identity
[3:22] a certain point we're not declaring war
[3:25] on any state but something else is
[3:28] happening a deeper sense a deeper quest
[3:31] or refinement and naturally is maturing
[3:34] in you.
[3:36] And now you're not just talking about
[3:38] things, not just talking about to make
[3:40] more money or these things can happen.
[3:42] We're not against or not. No, but this
[3:45] is different. What you want now? Your
[3:48] life has brought you to this point. What
[3:50] are you uh what is the urge in you?
[3:53] >> I'm always aware of something.
[3:56] >> Mhm.
[3:57] I want to be aware of
[4:02] yeah well awareness or just bring me
[4:06] beyond the point of person and name that
[4:09] is one.
[4:09] >> So everything that appears in the
[4:11] consciousness becomes like an object of
[4:14] perception. Everything that comes comes
[4:16] plays goes
[4:18] like this. No, the the relative to what
[4:21] is coming and going, the perceiving
[4:24] power which is the consciousness itself
[4:26] is not coming and going.
[4:29] It it is there to say okay uh here it
[4:32] comes. Okay, there it goes. Here it
[4:34] comes. What is happening to itself in
[4:36] this?
[4:40] What can it say of itself?
[4:43] Everything you can say this thing come
[4:45] this goes. A year or two this was
[4:48] desired. Now it's here. Now it's
[4:50] nothing. Now everything nothing seemed
[4:53] to stick like a writing on water for a
[4:57] moment and then you cannot read. Nothing
[4:59] sticks to it.
[5:02] This this consciousness it's like that
[5:03] or not.
[5:05] Even memory you can say well memory is
[5:07] part of the consciousness. Yeah memory
[5:09] is also a function in the consciousness
[5:12] but memory also can fade and go go. Is
[5:15] and consciousness recognizes the memory
[5:18] now also is fading and going.
[5:21] Is consciousness itself suffering it?
[5:25] >> No.
[5:26] >> No. No. Why not?
[5:32] Because it's not
[5:35] it has no interest. It is it's not
[5:41] impacted.
[5:42] >> Yes.
[5:45] Is it does it have some interest in
[5:47] something
[5:49] that whatever it is it creates the
[5:52] possibility the potential for anything
[5:54] to keep appearing through the mind and
[5:57] in form everything is coming
[5:59] >> I would say harmony
[6:00] >> harmony harmony
[6:04] is harmony something that consciousness
[6:06] must reach or is it inherent in
[6:08] consciousness harmony
[6:10] >> inherent
[6:10] >> inherent
[6:14] So if you are already in harmony, you
[6:16] would not be seeking harmony.
[6:19] You would only be seeking harmony if you
[6:21] experience disharmony. And disharmony
[6:23] can only come when consciousness takes
[6:25] the shape of something personal.
[6:29] Can you can you feel this this thing?
[6:31] When you become personal then you feel
[6:33] oh this one has got this I want this and
[6:35] then then this can happen and that play
[6:38] of the person the person's world desires
[6:40] memories and everything is like
[6:42] happening in the what I call the theater
[6:44] of consciousness it's coming and it is
[6:47] being perceived and it seems at two
[6:50] levels of perceiving one is the that the
[6:52] person itself is trying to measure its
[6:55] own game okay but that also is perceived
[7:02] Now sometimes the sense of the person
[7:05] the person is actually a mode and aspect
[7:07] of consciousness also
[7:10] but it has a strong identity that's been
[7:14] developed maybe over many lifetimes of
[7:16] believing I am the body. It believes I I
[7:19] am if you want to see me if you you see
[7:22] this I'm in it.
[7:24] >> This is my house live here. Okay.
[7:30] But the body doesn't know you. If your
[7:33] name is George, the body doesn't know
[7:34] I'm George.
[7:37] So if we're sitting here and somehow
[7:40] some strange gas she could come in the
[7:42] room invisible stuff and then you
[7:45] everybody breathe and then this gas
[7:47] makes everybody forget who they are
[7:51] and so they don't know who's which body
[7:53] is their body.
[7:57] So can you imagine that the bodies will
[7:58] be going hey me you go together does the
[8:02] body know this even to say whoa whoa
[8:04] look no we are together
[8:07] no the body doesn't know know it name is
[8:11] John or Jennifer and it doesn't know
[8:13] that it's the instrument that the
[8:15] consciousness will use for some purpose
[8:18] and while the consciousness has the
[8:20] tendency to have a strong projection as
[8:23] an individual self or as as a person
[8:25] that must gets acted on something that's
[8:28] in the whole theater of God that the
[8:31] consciousness which is singular will
[8:33] somehow
[8:35] individuate and each one you may call a
[8:38] soul and each soul will have its own
[8:39] unique journey. God must have done this
[8:41] thing but every journey eventually must
[8:46] come back to where it came from. It's
[8:48] come home again and this is how it feels
[8:51] to me.
[8:55] Just in these couple last days I
[8:57] realized how hard I've been on the
[9:00] person trying to reach my real self.
[9:03] >> Ah
[9:04] >> and
[9:04] >> you cannot reach your real self through
[9:07] the person.
[9:10] >> You cannot reach it through the person.
[9:12] >> The the it seems as though the person is
[9:15] like an eclipse, you know. So there's
[9:18] you. We don't know who that is yet. No.
[9:20] Then there's sort of the person mind
[9:23] stuff. No. And then there seems to be
[9:26] like if I get through this, I'll get to
[9:28] that. Like an eclipse. The sun is over
[9:30] there. Moon has come. You're here like
[9:33] this. But it's not an eclipse that way.
[9:35] It's like an eclipse this way.
[9:43] You're not trying to go there. You're
[9:44] not trying to go through the person. You
[9:46] see, you're observing and the sense of
[9:49] the person is coming and it's catching
[9:52] igniting and like a reflex your
[9:54] attention
[9:56] has been happening over so long the
[9:58] habit of going to into the personal mode
[10:02] and then after a while you realize no no
[10:04] no this not what I want and then you
[10:07] want to get back to as it were like
[10:10] getting back but these are not physical
[10:13] divisions not physical distance you
[10:16] It's uh how are you going to get back?
[10:19] You see, but actually what you are never
[10:22] left.
[10:24] It can't go. It's everywhere.
[10:27] This consciousness fills everything. But
[10:30] it appears to have gone simply because
[10:32] something came. The I feeling, the Y
[10:36] feeling, the world feeling come and
[10:38] something gets as though it's got
[10:40] hypnotized into this thing for a bit.
[10:44] When you catch hold of it like that then
[10:47] doesn't matter if all billions of things
[10:49] can come it will not make difference
[10:54] you can go to any town or something and
[10:59] there's what's happening you can say
[11:01] uncountable things are happening but
[11:04] maybe nothing's happening to you why not
[11:08] no interest you see
[11:11] actually I would say we are naturally
[11:13] detached from 99.9% of things
[11:17] you can walk through anything go not
[11:20] detach it go and do your way
[11:24] but as soon as the attachment come like
[11:27] this again something becomes uh a bit
[11:31] noisy not perception because you're
[11:35] walking through the field you can
[11:36] perceive everything perceive there
[11:38] attachment is different attachment
[11:40] becomes very personal
[11:43] And it's the personal sense that seems
[11:46] to cover doesn't hide the self over
[11:50] there. It kind of gets hypnotized into
[11:53] the thing and you forget yourself.
[11:57] >> I don't know if it's useful to you to
[11:58] hear that thing. It's not that you have
[12:00] to get this out the way to get over
[12:02] there. No, you have to see that this is
[12:05] only phenomenal. You don't lose your
[12:08] center for you this. And while you're
[12:11] seeing it, you still the the the the
[12:13] capacity to witness is there. Even the
[12:16] capacity nothing now to witness that is
[12:19] also can say no there's no need to
[12:20] witness anything. Now the function of
[12:22] witnessing what is that which is here
[12:25] that is untouched
[12:28] untouched.
[12:30] What is it? What is its flavor?
[12:35] Today is very good day. I'm very happy
[12:37] we're having what is it then? Do you
[12:40] have to be in contact with an object of
[12:43] perception to derive some quality of joy
[12:46] or pleasure?
[12:49] >> No.
[12:49] >> What is it where there's only
[12:51] consciousness onto itself?
[12:56] Boredom.
[12:59] >> I'm asking is it boredom?
[13:02] Uh
[13:07] does it mean that the world should be
[13:09] just out of the way so I can be just all
[13:12] of myself?
[13:14] >> No.
[13:14] >> Or ah thank you.
[13:19] So whether it's one thing or a thousand
[13:22] things or it's a particular thing which
[13:26] has a strong reading for your sense of
[13:28] person that's going to get magnified and
[13:31] attention is going to go there and even
[13:33] if attention goes to a something and
[13:36] creates a sense of some anxiety inside
[13:38] you it's only a momentary thing. the the
[13:41] the sense of now a sense of anxiousness
[13:44] is there is not a description of the
[13:47] sear
[13:50] >> no I understand
[13:52] >> anxiety sense of anxiety so this is why
[13:55] many people are also of faith and so on
[13:58] they're in in lots of external troubles
[14:00] are there but somehow they and they may
[14:03] for a bit like this but they can still
[14:05] say praise the lord
[14:08] why they say or thank Thank you. Thank
[14:11] you.
[14:14] They can still say okay thank you Jesus.
[14:17] Thank you father
[14:21] whoever they want to
[14:25] because they know this is fleeting
[14:27] things. I used to just something go and
[14:30] attention is gone and when attention is
[14:32] gone it's like I have gone but now you
[14:35] see attention even the movement of
[14:38] attention is watched from something
[14:40] deeper
[14:44] and it's not watched with fiery interest
[14:50] because the watcher is not personal. The
[14:52] watching is not personal. Can you
[14:54] verify?
[14:56] They're just a quality of is but the the
[15:00] personal experiencer is hot
[15:04] >> passionate.
[15:06] >> It needs it needs the the addiction
[15:10] to fulfill its projection. So this is
[15:14] going to create some stuff and an
[15:16] addiction is is seem an addiction. But
[15:20] even now if the person is addicted to
[15:22] something and you see the person also is
[15:25] just a shape of consciousness called I
[15:28] also watched from the from this space.
[15:31] Can you try it and see?
[15:34] Can we try something like um you don't
[15:38] have to tell anybody but something that
[15:40] really gets under your skin.
[15:45] Maybe a person, maybe a thing, maybe
[15:47] something that just triggers uh the
[15:50] emotions and there you feel like you
[15:51] know oh no
[15:54] and watch that just you know induce it.
[15:56] Can you induce?
[15:59] We can actually we can we are doing it
[16:01] all the time. you just try and do now
[16:04] but from this place that I'm speaking
[16:06] now
[16:08] it it's not going to be so easy now
[16:10] actually
[16:12] but can you do just call up something
[16:14] that perhaps you're living in this hope
[16:17] of I don't want to encounter that person
[16:20] or thing or thought but you yourself
[16:25] invited for a moment but stay like in
[16:27] the place that you are looking from
[16:30] and don't get emotionally involved
[16:32] involved and even if emotions come, it's
[16:35] still only an object of perception.
[16:40] Whatever come goes.
[16:43] This is not a 21st century phenomenon.
[16:46] Whatever come goes.
[16:48] It's not a choice it goes.
[16:52] But choice can be how much attention you
[16:54] want to give and how much juice you want
[16:56] to put into it. You may think, "Oh, I
[17:00] didn't feel I had control over that." I
[17:01] said well now you do
[17:08] look from this look from and as this
[17:10] space is it personal or impersonal?
[17:17] Should your contact with life necess
[17:22] necessitate
[17:23] personal
[17:25] contact?
[17:29] Do you know some people are great
[17:32] mothers and grandmothers and
[17:34] grandfathers and inside them there's
[17:37] tremendous love but it's also this
[17:39] beautiful detachment
[17:42] and so there's a power there beautiful
[17:47] and love is a different quality.
[17:53] They can experience emotional love also,
[17:57] but they know love doesn't have to be
[17:59] only emotional.
[18:01] It's much deeper,
[18:03] much wider.
[18:06] Just like the prayer you make for one
[18:09] person, you could pray for the whole
[18:11] world with the same prayer.
[18:15] But we're stingy. No, no, not for them.
[18:17] No, not this one.
[18:22] But your consciousness is universal.
[18:26] It's not even limited by earth.
[18:30] You should be happy when I tell you
[18:32] this.
[18:45] Look, some of us you know you see an an
[18:48] animal or dog injured you compassion go
[18:50] there
[18:53] cat maybe not why why same same they
[18:57] feel like you
[19:00] these are the the tendency towards
[19:03] subjective functioning through the uh
[19:06] personalized consciousness
[19:09] I don't want to train you for this
[19:11] because automatically if you focus your
[19:13] consciousness will just set free to be
[19:16] as broad as it naturally is.
[19:21] You don't have to eat special food for
[19:24] that.
[19:30] So what what ring you want to put around
[19:33] yourself now
[19:35] what boundary you know because remember
[19:38] that the feeling might be if my circle
[19:41] is tight then my being is more intense
[19:44] but I say no no the you set be set free
[19:48] you don't have any boundary who told you
[19:51] maybe just for um
[19:55] for getting on in life you have to
[19:56] pretend um this bound boundary but
[19:58] inside you are nobody's bound you very
[20:01] godlike thing
[20:07] what shape you must honor so strong
[20:11] what is the shape of consciousness what
[20:13] is the size of consciousness
[20:20] so I'm hinting at the
[20:23] god level consciousness in you because
[20:25] it is there it's natural
[20:29] I'm not saying call yourself God not in
[20:31] this kind of way but in another moment
[20:33] why not it's it's not it's not equal
[20:36] with is one with
[20:42] is there a problem living somewhere in
[20:44] you that feels like hey yeah everything
[20:47] is good but keep this a bit secret
[20:49] because no no we don't want to go there
[20:53] bring it in and take a
[21:00] You're not defined by the size of your
[21:03] body, the shape or wherever. Nothing is
[21:05] like this. For consciousness doesn't
[21:07] obey those
[21:09] earth rules,
[21:12] but don't you don't have to go talking
[21:14] about this. You find it.
[21:19] So, should we carry on what we were
[21:20] trying on? How far have we reached? I
[21:23] it's been a relief when you said
[21:28] uh
[21:30] when when when you are it then there's
[21:33] no boundaries then it just
[21:36] >> flows by itself.
[21:37] >> Yes.
[21:38] >> Did you just believe that or could you
[21:40] see or could you can you see this? I
[21:42] >> I could feel it in my body as belief.
[21:45] >> Yes.
[21:47] >> I could feel it in my body as belief.
[21:49] >> Yes. Yes.
[21:53] From the side of the truth, how long
[21:55] will it last?
[22:01] >> It's a silly question.
[22:03] Uh
[22:06] >> consciousness doesn't obey time, earth
[22:08] time.
[22:09] >> Yeah.
[22:09] >> Or those limits of mind.
[22:13] But the reflex, the culture is that
[22:15] somehow these things will come. And it's
[22:18] okay that they come. When they come, you
[22:20] use them to to strengthen your
[22:22] discernment to clarify. This exercise is
[22:25] very good.
[22:27] Don't run. No, no, no. Don't want to.
[22:29] No, no. Look, look.
[22:38] So, should we finish off what we want to
[22:40] say now? What we what we have to
[22:43] >> uh Yes.
[22:45] Uh,
[22:48] I'm still
[22:50] I still see I'm searching.
[22:53] >> Mhm.
[22:54] >> Uh,
[22:55] >> you just remembered that. No.
[22:56] >> Yeah.
[22:57] >> Yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Okay.
[23:03] >> I have to finish here something. So,
[23:07] you were fine. Fine. Oh.
[23:15] >> Yeah. So, I had to search some problems
[23:18] to finish off
[23:20] >> when when
[23:22] what is the time frame to deal with
[23:24] them? Uh
[23:29] >> there's a time frame that the world will
[23:31] say you have to do this and that may so
[23:33] but when do you in your heart to deal
[23:34] with them
[23:37] or meet them from you do you you who are
[23:41] you do you have a problem
[23:44] your essence being does it have a
[23:46] problem with anything? No,
[23:49] >> no, no.
[23:51] Somewhere in here, you're going to find
[23:53] a balance with that. There's some things
[23:55] you still have to address, but you're
[23:57] going to address it with much, much
[23:58] greater. The whole the whole of
[24:01] consciousness is with you to do it.
[24:07] And if you feel I can't do this, you
[24:09] something feel no, it's okay. Maybe it's
[24:10] just fine. Just leave that for now. You
[24:13] don't have to be no, I'm going to I'm
[24:14] going to
[24:18] And the thing is going ouch out ouch no
[24:23] you have a marvelous uh power with you.
[24:28] It's called your intuition.
[24:31] Your intuition give you a sense a sense
[24:34] of you know if you are one who have to
[24:37] plan your tracks you will have
[24:39] difficulty.
[24:42] Yeah, you're going to in this world uh
[24:46] move with the wind.
[24:52] You'll know what that you'll come to
[24:54] know what that mean. Don't be too mental
[24:56] about it. But there's there's a
[24:59] there's a poetry about you.
[25:05] Nobody you live it. You live this
[25:08] poetry.
[25:10] You don't have to write it down on
[25:11] paper.
[25:14] God is the poetry in you.
[25:19] The grace of God, the light of God, the
[25:22] light of the life
[25:26] is the source of your being.
[25:31] Don't think, oh, this is too much for
[25:33] me.
[25:42] I'm not trying to orient you towards
[25:44] pride. It's not pride. Pride is a lot of
[25:47] pride.
[25:52] But appreciate yourself.
[25:59] Just realize I have to do nothing.
[26:04] And yet things get done.
[26:06] >> And yet things get done.
[26:11] >> Take off big pressure off yourself.
[26:14] It may seem very irresponsible
[26:17] thing that he said.
[26:23] And yet your work needs to happen will
[26:27] happen. Wind assisted actually more
[26:30] you'll find it in your heart not just in
[26:32] the mind. You see more and more.
[26:41] >> You feel embarrassed to be so happy.
[26:46] >> No.
[26:49] >> No.
[26:52] >> Very good.
[26:53] >> Thank you.
[26:55] >> Thanks to you.
[26:56] >> Thank you.
[26:57] >> Very good.