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Resetting the Nervous System With a Breath and a Hard No

House of Deeprelax
House of Deeprelax
Jul 7, 2024
9 min read
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A live session built around resetting the nervous system opens on a morning that has already gone sideways. Eliane Bernhard, one of the founders of the Dutch meditation company House of Deeprelax, is sitting in front of a camera, preparing to guide viewers through a breathing exercise and a release of tension, while her own day has been pulled apart by a toddler in a developmental leap, a computer that will not cooperate and a launch date that has slipped. The stream was published in July 2024 under the title "Het nieuwe House of Deeprelax," and it is more revealing than a product demo. It shows a teacher who knows the practice from the inside, admits that she struggles with it too, and uses that struggle as the actual lesson. What follows is an account of the breathing and release practice she guides, the boundary-setting she talks about in the Q&A, and the origin story of the platform that grew out of her own search for relief.

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What does a live nervous-system session look like when nothing goes to plan?

The stream starts with a host and a guest trading small talk about chaos. Eliane describes a morning of unpredictable behavior from her young daughter, a mind full of "chaos," and an earlier plan to play music for the exercise that failed on a technical glitch. The launch itself had been pencilled in for the 7th of the 7th, a date she had liked for its numerology, but it ended up going live on the 15th. None of this is hidden from the audience, and that is the first thing worth noticing. A relaxation practice is usually presented as a calm room you enter. Here it is presented as a room you walk into while the door is still rattling.

That honesty matters because it sets up the question the rest of the stream keeps circling: what does relaxation look like for someone who has a full life, not a retreat schedule? Eliane said as much herself when she told the host that she used to think of people who run businesses and raise children as sitting "comfortably in a lovely bubble," and then admitted, with some amusement, that as a mother she now knows that is never really relaxing.

How does a breath-and-release practice actually work?

The core of the session is simple to describe and harder to do well. Listeners are asked to settle, to breathe in a rhythm they can count, and to let the exhale carry the weight of the body downward. Then the instruction moves into tension and release. Eliane invites the body to tense in specific places, holds the tension for a moment, and then lets it go with a full, deliberate letting-down. The language on the platform's own description calls this ontlading, a word that means discharge, and the idea is that the nervous system often holds stress as stored physical effort that never gets a clear signal to stop.

The intention she sets is also worth taking seriously. Rather than asking the listener to achieve a state, she frames the session as an invitation to notice what is already there and to release what is no longer needed. In the transcript she reminds people that they do not have to do anything, that they can stay with what comes up, and that a body which feels odd or restless during the exercise is not failing it. For a practice that is often sold as a quick fix, this is a notable choice. It treats the reset as something that happens gradually across many sessions, not as a single button.

There is a useful parallel here for anyone who has tried breath work on their own. The breath is the lever; the release is the point. Most people rush the exhale or hold their breath without noticing, and a guided session creates the time and the counting that make it visible. The tension-and-release cycle does something similar with the body: it makes the difference between tight and loose tangible, which is often the first step toward letting go of effort you did not know you were carrying.

Why is learning to say no part of nervous-system work?

The most striking moment in the stream comes not in the exercise but in the conversation before it. Eliane describes how her relationship to invitations has changed since becoming a mother. Before her daughter, she says, she went along with almost everything, and it was easier. Now she has learned to decline, and she says that doing so has given her a great deal of strength. Her reasoning is specific: a platform with a large reach and many participants makes every collaboration tempting, but she found it powerful to say that a request is simply not convenient right now and that she will not sit there in fear about it, because she knows it will be fine.

"Yes, but it's just really not convenient right now, and I'm not going to sit there in fear, because I know for sure it will be fine." (Eliane Bernhard, live session, 3:20, translated from the Dutch auto-generated transcript)

This is a more useful idea than it first appears. A great deal of chronic stress is not caused by a single event but by a steady pattern of agreeing to things you cannot hold, and then bracing for the consequences. Setting a boundary interrupts that pattern. It also changes the body's relationship to the future: the anxiety of "what will happen if I say no" is often larger than the event itself. Eliane's point is that learning to decline is itself a form of the reset the session is teaching, because it removes a constant source of effort that the nervous system would otherwise keep tracking.

How did a Yoga Nidra platform become a mental wellbeing toolbox?

The stream also explains how the company got here, and the arc is more interesting than a typical app origin story. Eliane describes House of Deeprelax as having started as a Yoga Nidra platform. That was its identity for a long time, and it had grown into a well-known meditation app used by many people before the team began to move well beyond that starting point. The new version, which the live stream was promoting, is described as an almost completely new app with a few familiar touches, offering nearly 100 sessions and meditations along with interactive guides, programmes and home retreats.

The stated mission is to help each person build a personal Mental Wellbeing Toolbox. The launch description lists the kinds of needs the toolbox is meant to meet: a way to relax well during a busy day, a short mini-holiday inside a hectic schedule, methods for letting go of blockages and long-term stress, a transformative breathing session, walking meditations for clearing the mind, and a deeper Yoga Nidra practice aimed at better sleep. The framing is practical rather than doctrinal. The idea is that different states call for different tools, and that a person is better served by a set of options they can reach for than by a single method they must follow.

During the launch the company also opened the app for a few days so that new users could try everything for free. That is a common marketing tactic, but in this context it fits the logic of the stream: the best way to know whether a tool works is to use it, and the session the audience had just experienced was itself a sample of the product's approach.

Why does Eliane Bernhard's own history matter to the practice?

Viewers who did not know Bernhard were given a short origin story. She said that she is one of the founders of House of Deeprelax and that the company grew out of her own quest for relief. Around the age of 17 she was already dealing with diagnoses such as an anxiety disorder, and the search for ways to heal herself without relying only on conventional routes became the thread that eventually produced the platform. She noted that a company which now has a meaningful impact on many lives coming from that kind of personal struggle is something she likes to tell, and she referred to a longer podcast conversation where she goes into the story in more detail.

That origin matters for how the practice should be read. Eliane is not presenting herself as a detached authority who has solved stress. She describes herself as a person who has needed these tools for a long time, who still finds the work hard in the middle of a busy morning, and who has built a business around the things that helped her. In the same stream she describes the discomfort of hearing from people who want to know where she is, and she admits that she could not always be present for them while she was caught up in other work. That candour is part of what makes the reset credible: it treats the nervous system not as a machine to be fixed but as something shaped by a whole life.

What should a viewer take from the session?

A reader who has never watched the stream can still take three things from it. The first is that a reset begins with a physical, countable act: a breath with a longer exhale, a tension that is held and then released. The second is that the practice cannot be separated from the boundaries of the rest of your day, because the stress you are trying to release is often generated by commitments you cannot keep. The third is that the most useful teachers in this field may be the ones who admit they are still learning. Eliane's morning was chaotic, her toddler was in a developmental leap, and her launch slipped by a week. She still guided a room of strangers through a full release. That is the most persuasive thing the video shows.

Where to go from here

If the stream has you curious, the most useful next step is to try the exercise yourself, slowly, with the same attention you would give a piece of music you were learning. Notice where you hold tension, let it go deliberately, and pay attention to the exhale. Then look at your calendar and ask which invitation you could decline this week without drama. For a deeper listen, the full livestream is worth watching in its entirety, especially the Q&A, where Eliane takes questions from viewers and talks about the parts of the practice that are hard to explain in a single session. For listeners who want the origin story in fuller detail, the podcast conversation she refers to is the place to go next.

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[0:14] Yes. Yes. Yes. Uh, I think I'm there. I

[0:22] , uh, yes, I just need to get some sort

[0:24] of confirmation. It's actually been a

[0:28] very crazy morning ever since early

[0:31] this morning, uh, when my sweet

[0:32] Josephine, as is supposed to happen,

[0:34] just acted a little differently than

[0:37] usual again. Every morning is different

[0:39] . But I had thought: "Oh, then she'll

[0:41] just play nicely and she can crawl." So

[0:43] , it's going well. I'll just do the

[0:46] newsletter and then we're off. Well, it

[0:50] went well in itself, but uh, she did

[0:52] need some attention. So that was a kind

[0:55] of chaos in my head. Then I thought: "

[0:58] Oh right, nice, live with Eliane now."

[1:00] Well, and really assuming a bit too

[1:02] much that it would all work out, I

[1:04] thought: "Oh right, I'll just put on

[1:06] some nice music for the exercise in a

[1:08] moment." And well, a kind of error.

[1:11] Well, computer problems. We all know

[1:13] the feeling. Then I thought for a

[1:15] moment, well, we're just a little late,

[1:17] because somewhere I thought, you know,

[1:19] I always like thinking in numbers: "Oh,

[1:21] would we really go live exactly on the

[1:23] 7th of the 7th?" Well, it ended up

[1:25] being the 15th, but uh, we're here. Uh,

[1:27] and I'm here. "Brabant quarter of an

[1:29] hour," says Femke. Okay then. I think

[1:31] that's really nice to hear. Uh, just

[1:34] plug Eliane in for a moment and I say:

[1:36] "How nice, Eliane, long time no see and

[1:39] nice that you're here." Yes. No, indeed

[1:43] . It is always this kind of morning

[1:45] again. Because I had exactly the same

[1:47] thing with uh, with that little girl of

[1:49] mine.

[1:50] So she's still not sleeping now either.

[1:52] It just goes to show that you...I was,

[1:54] uh, at a silence retreat a few weeks

[1:56] ago and among other things the quote,

[1:58] uh, if you wanna make God really love,

[2:01] tell him your plans in life. Uh, that

[2:04] kept coming back. Well, and I thought

[2:06] that was, uh, beautiful in these

[2:07] situations too. It's funny, too.

[2:11] Yes, we are here. And I, I said that to

[2:14] you while, in the meantime, I was very,

[2:15] uh, almost panicking about all sorts of

[2:17] things here. And I, I had to, I had to

[2:19] think about meditation in which I had

[2:21] that too, and you say: "I recognize

[2:23] that." Then you are actually busy,

[2:25] aren't you—in your case, with an

[2:27] amazing app that we are going to talk

[2:29] about in a moment—to give people,

[2:30] well, uh, relaxation.

[2:31] Relaxation. Exactly.

[2:33] And then, yes,

[2:34] and then behind the scenes you yourself

[2:36] are completely, completely.

[2:37] Yes, that really is. Yes. Yes,

[2:39] we are just human beings, aren't we?

[2:41] All of us.

[2:42] Yes. No, but it feels like such a

[2:43] paradox, but it is definitely something

[2:45] else whether you are aware of it and

[2:47] whether you

[2:48] can switch back to it being okay

[2:50] afterwards. And if it really was okay,

[2:52] if it hadn't worked out to get online,

[2:54] that you can also think, then it will

[2:55] be fine again.

[2:56] Yes. Yes,

[2:57] but we are here.

[2:58] We are here. Well, and I have to be

[3:00] honest, your name has been mentioned

[3:02] often. I, I just dropped meditation. I

[3:04] had design 2024 and people really did

[3:06] start sending me messages asking where

[3:09] is Eliana? And I did ask you all those

[3:12] times, but I also thought it was

[3:14] beautiful in a way

[3:15] and maybe I can take you along a bit in

[3:17] the process

[3:18] in the category of setting boundaries

[3:20] and saying no. Something that is

[3:22] difficult.

[3:22] Exactly.

[3:23] Um, did you actually do that?

[3:25] Yes. And there, uh, I think that helps

[3:28] a lot when you actually have a child.

[3:30] Before that, uh, I went along with

[3:31] everything and it was all a bit easier.

[3:33] And now, as you just described your

[3:35] morning, uh, that is still very

[3:37] unpredictable here too. So Luna is in a

[3:39] developmental leap again now, leap

[3:41] eight I believe. Yes. So she's suddenly

[3:43] going to act very differently too. Um,

[3:45] but I do notice that it can indeed give

[3:47] you a lot of strength if you dare to

[3:49] say no. Because yes, it is of course a

[3:52] unique opportunity, with your reach and

[3:54] with all the people participating, to,

[3:57] uh, say yes and join in. Um, but then I

[4:00] also found it very powerful indeed to

[4:01] think: "Yes, but it's just really not

[4:03] convenient right now and I'm not going

[4:05] to sit there in fear, because I know

[4:06] for sure it will be fine." Well, and

[4:08] now we're sitting here again,

[4:09] yes,

[4:10] with our own live session. So that's

[4:12] playing out really well too. Fantastic.

[4:14] And and and

[4:15] maybe that is just very private, but

[4:17] what were you busy with then? Because

[4:19] for me—and I understand that the

[4:21] grass is always greener on the other

[4:23] side of the hill. I think: "Oh, that

[4:25] Eliane lives abroad over there. She's

[4:28] sitting comfortably in a lovely bubble

[4:30] all day meditating a bit. Holding your

[4:33] little baby in her arms." Well no,

[4:35] right. Of course, by now I know better

[4:38] than anyone that, well, as everyone

[4:40] watching who is a father or mother

[4:42] knows, that is of course never really

[4:44] relaxing. But um no.

[4:46] Yes. How, what were you all doing

[4:48] lately? Yes, especially

[4:50] What was I doing? Well, so mainly busy

[4:52] with, well, what we are going to talk

[4:54] about now, building a uh, a revamped

[4:55] app. Actually, a completely new app.

[4:57] But uh, some little things will still

[4:59] look a bit like the old one. Most of it

[5:00] is really completely brand new. Um, and

[5:02] indeed, people very often have the

[5:04] impression—I happened to be thinking

[5:06] about this just before this session—

[5:07] of "oh, those are lying uh, especially

[5:09] that we are a bit behind schedule with

[5:11] the app." Um, that we were just lying

[5:12] by the pool all day and I thought: "You

[5:14] know what, let's do? Just launch a

[5:16] month later."

[5:17] Um, no, I'm actually a full-time

[5:19] entrepreneur and a mother and and

[5:22] um, but I think that's really nice too.

[5:24] Especially now that I've become a

[5:26] mother as well, because I always found

[5:27] it difficult to empathize with how busy

[5:29] you actually are as a parent? Um, that

[5:33] uh, yeah, that I actually feel now that

[5:35] I can tailor the offering even better,

[5:37] our sessions to people who are uh, just

[5:40] really busy.

[5:42] Yeah. Um, and that is actually quite a

[5:44] challenge to be able to empathize with

[5:46] that every now and then. So uh, but I

[5:48] do hope to lie by the pool a bit more

[5:50] after the launch. Yeah,

[5:53] that hasn't happened all that much yet.

[5:55] No. Oh, that's good to hear. Or rather,

[5:58] well, it's not good to hear, but funny

[6:00] how just when you just talk to someone

[6:02] for a bit and hear it, that it's just

[6:03] very different from the one to that uh,

[6:05] exactly. Well,

[6:06] and I say that too. often, because more

[6:08] and more people are moving to Spain

[6:10] here. Uh, and we probably all know that

[6:11] from the program*Ik vertrek*(I'm

[6:12] Leaving). It's not a case of

[6:14] you just taking yourself along.

[6:15] Yes. Yes.

[6:16] And that laptop and the company. So, uh

[6:18] , but anyway, it does help. Of course,

[6:21] the weather is always nice here, and

[6:22] that does make you at least a bit more

[6:24] energetic and happier

[6:25] for the people, because I'm just really

[6:27] going and we're going, uh, well, the

[6:29] questions can be asked, but let's just

[6:31] go back to basics for a moment first,

[6:32] because there are of course also people

[6:34] who don't know you at all. Uh,

[6:36] and you, well, I got to

[6:39] experience part of your journey, uh, on

[6:42] Slit.

[6:43] Yes. After you, after you were down

[6:45] here at the table, uh, for the first,

[6:47] for the first, koekeru conversation.

[6:49] Well, let me just phrase the question

[6:51] very openly. Who is Eliane?

[6:53] That is indeed a very open question. Um

[6:56] , yes, at the moment is indeed, uh,

[6:58] well, one of the founders of House

[7:00] Deplex. So I think people might mainly

[7:03] know me from that. And if they don't

[7:06] know What that is, that is uh yeah,

[7:08] until recently that was actually mainly

[7:10] a uh a uh we started out as a Yoga

[7:11] Nidra platform.

[7:13] Now we’ve actually been much more

[7:15] than that for quite a while. So we

[7:16] really have a very well-known

[7:18] meditation app that is used a lot. Um

[7:21] and well, now of course moving on to

[7:23] even more uh in that. And yes, my story

[7:27] in that is actually that uh it is very

[7:29] ...That is always very nice to tell:

[7:31] that a company that is now successful,

[7:33] that makes a huge impact on so many

[7:35] lives, that actually comes from my own

[7:37] uh yeah, quest that we talked a lot

[7:39] about in that podcast. About my uh, you

[7:43] know, that at my well, what would it be

[7:45] , about 17, I was already dealing with

[7:47] diagnoses like anxiety disorder and...

[7:49] yes,

[7:50] uh chronic pain. As almost always, you

[7:53] know, that viewers or listeners might

[7:55] forget that uh sometimes, but I find it

[7:57] fascinating how

[7:58] people actually become experts in

[8:00] something. Yes. because they themselves

[8:03] uh have problems with it. I mean, I

[8:04] think I think Kasper from I think de

[8:06] Meulen is great—I hope everyone

[8:08] thinks so too. I think he's a really,

[8:09] really good example because it's just a

[8:11] kind of relaxedness itself with his

[8:13] handpan and breathing exercises, and

[8:15] that just comes from a very, well,

[8:17] neurotic...well,

[8:19] I happened to read an article about him

[8:21] recently, because I have a...I was in

[8:23] his breadwork sessions, they are really

[8:25] good too. Yeah. And...then I indeed

[8:26] read that story that I thought: "Oh,

[8:28] it's so beautiful to see that there is

[8:30] indeed...oh, with everyone there is a

[8:31] completely different story...uh...

[8:32] behind it than just strength.""That is

[8:34] really, naturally, literally, and

[8:36] that is the power. And I also always

[8:38] say, I think I’d rather be coached by

[8:40] someone with lived experience, and

[8:41] certainly people like me—like Kasper

[8:43] —who have really been working on this

[8:45] for a very long time,

[8:48] than someone who just reads from books

[8:49] —with all due respect, but I do think

[8:51] that really makes a difference. And I

[8:54] think that is also the power of our

[8:55] sessions. That actually my journey—

[8:58] which, well, stopped with the doctors

[9:00] when I was 25. And from there, I

[9:02] actually, uh, um, yeah, went down this

[9:05] path of how I can heal myself without,

[9:07] uh, help from doctors, because that,

[9:09] well, that option apparently wasn't

[9:11] there. Um, and that worked. And I hope

[9:15] that you, uh, I think people hear that

[9:17] in the sessions too, right? So it’s

[9:19] really not from the perspective of how

[9:21] we can offer as many meditations and

[9:22] sessions as possible,

[9:24] but how we can offer those sessions

[9:25] with which people

[9:27] can really, well, make big changes for

[9:29] themselves as well.

[9:31] Yeah. And if you say healed, and I get

[9:33] it, uh, but then then I’m going to

[9:34] say a bit that is Whenever people talk

[9:36] about a quest, I don't think there’s

[9:38] a kind of moment when it’s finished.

[9:41] No, absolutely not. Like you, let's say

[9:45] , well, you dove into it yourself and

[9:47] found tools that you...well, indeed,

[9:49] initially with just yoga nidra, but

[9:51] that was...that was the opening for you

[9:54] , uh, to do it daily, or at least when

[9:56] you feel the need for it, but in any

[9:58] case, uh, to keep maintaining that.

[10:01] Because it is, yes, that's why I

[10:02] understand what you mean, but being

[10:04] cured feels a bit like bam, done. It

[10:06] isn't, and the funny thing is, there

[10:08] was nothing to cure anyway. Um, because

[10:10] it is precisely, you know, that is

[10:11] especially with that chronic pain. Um,

[10:13] with pain complaints, a lot of people

[10:15] have fibromyalgia in the Netherlands

[10:17] and all over the world. And that is

[10:19] just the tip of the iceberg of all the

[10:21] chronic conditions out there. Hm

[10:23] hm.

[10:24] Uh, the moment you find out what is

[10:25] behind it, that is already enough. So

[10:28] is it cured? Well, certainly not. It is

[10:31] actually healing and in that, uh, so

[10:33] that is also a kind of cliché answer,

[10:35] but that is because you see from which

[10:37] behavior chronic issues arise.

[10:40] Yes.

[10:41] Um and can make a huge difference in

[10:42] that. So yes, I wish that for everyone.

[10:44] Yes, it is funny. There is today and

[10:46] suddenly I feel that quite a lot is

[10:48] coming together. I already had that a

[10:50] bit when I was typing the email this

[10:51] morning in between tasks. Uh, is there

[10:54] a uh, well, for me a controversial guy.

[10:57] Well, he has been mentioned often. Uh,

[10:59] and then people didn't really agree

[11:00] with it. It is the man behind this

[11:02] banger or he has another banger. I

[11:05] am very curious now.

[11:06] Dik Swaap. We are our bride.

[11:08] Yes, I actually considered it a

[11:09] compliment that I woven that 'we' into

[11:11] the email and that he thought right

[11:12] below that, uh, I thought:" Wow, that

[11:14] is really beautiful. ""

[11:15] Yes, it is beautiful. And I, uh, well,

[11:17] recommend people definitely listen to

[11:19] that conversation. But I do think it

[11:21] aligns very well with,

[11:23] well, what I remember from the first

[11:25] conversation I had with you. Um, that

[11:29] did come up in another conversation

[11:31] later on, but you were very good to me

[11:33] at explaining the different states

[11:35] where our, well, our brains are, our

[11:37] nervous system actually, right?

[11:40] Yes.

[11:40] Um, and well, Dik Zwaap for those who

[11:43] don't know him, he is a neurologist. So

[11:45] he is very down-to-earth and not

[11:47] spiritual at all. I didn't know what

[11:49] was happening to me, because I was at

[11:50] his work and I saw a sort of big Buddha

[11:52] statue. I thought: 'What is this all of

[11:54] a sudden?' ""

[11:55] But that, well, okay, we talked about

[11:57] that. Uh,

[11:58] exactly.

[11:59] But it is, it comes together nicely and

[12:01] it is of course always nice and that is

[12:03] why I also like to broadcast this

[12:05] conversation, uh, well. Um, because yes

[12:08] , science is of course also, uh,

[12:10] important.

[12:11] Very important too.

[12:13] Good to know for the mind, too. And

[12:14] there is always, well, I don't have to

[12:16] explain that this year, and the people

[12:17] watching this certainly don't. Yes, I

[12:19] feel like there is always something

[12:20] more. And he just has this attitude of,

[12:22] yeah, as long as it isn't proven, it

[12:23] doesn't exist. But if you...

[12:24] That is his attitude. Yes, exactly. But

[12:27] anyway, he does it,

[12:28] so it is nice to let those two worlds

[12:30] come together a bit today. Because I

[12:32] absolutely believe in...I'm going to...

[12:33] uh, I think it is fantastic to indeed

[12:35] read scientific matters about the brain

[12:37] and about the nervous system and about

[12:39] how everything works. And I think that

[12:42] is also a must, especially as a

[12:43] provider like us with such a large

[12:45] reach,

[12:46] that you also know the scientific story

[12:48] behind it. Definitely.

[12:50] Um, and I just know From my own

[12:51] experience, it indeed goes much further

[12:54] than science. And that could also be

[12:56] because science simply isn't yet, uh,

[12:58] because this area is also new to

[13:00] science, so who knows where we'll be in

[13:02] 20 years. But anyway, even Yogaidra,

[13:05] the form of meditation we offer the

[13:07] most,

[13:07] uh, more and more scientific research

[13:09] is being done into that too. And what

[13:12] you said, those brain states, that is

[13:14] really something we can just uh

[13:15] substantiate and say out loud. Believe,

[13:18] that is, because I'm going to uh lead a

[13:20] Yogaidra session later on. So for the

[13:22] fans watching, uh, another completely

[13:25] new one.

[13:26] And then you do indeed go through those

[13:28] brain states. And you can explain that

[13:31] very scientifically, that because of

[13:33] that you enter all sorts of states of,

[13:35] uh, well, as you already said, also

[13:36] influenced by your nervous system, but

[13:39] you actually just end up in a, yes, in

[13:41] all sorts of special brain states.

[13:43] Yes. And that is really, uh, well, once

[13:46] you feel that and therefore also, yes,

[13:48] just like breathing and also through

[13:50] breathing, have control over it,

[13:53] uh, well, then you can

[13:55] uh Well,

[13:56] putting it out there for yourself.

[13:57] Exactly. Exactly.

[13:59] Absolutely. So that’s how it is, so

[14:01] both the scientific, uh, the analytical

[14:03] people today and the less so, they are

[14:05] all, uh,

[14:06] can all participate. I’ll just put

[14:08] the app number on screen for a moment.

[14:09] Questions can be asked, but I am

[14:11] especially curious about something we

[14:12] are going to see this coming week that

[14:14] you have really been working on for a

[14:15] long time. Because, well, you know, you

[14:17] started House of Deep Relax out of your

[14:20] own passion. Uh, that first with a few

[14:22] videos on YouTube, later with an app

[14:24] that really became a huge community.

[14:27] And then you went ahead again—that is

[14:29] why I said so—I got to be a part of

[14:31] that. Because in our conversation,

[14:34] actually, uh, to yes, you were just

[14:37] very honest about just, uh, mental

[14:39] health issues.

[14:41] Yes.

[14:42] And exactly.

[14:43] Uh, well, uh, super beautiful. We even

[14:46] filmed a series about it, but you

[14:47] mainly with House of Relax.

[14:49] Yes.

[14:50] I decided to, yes, show that side much

[14:53] more as well and support people in that

[14:55] .

[14:56] Which I also find difficult at the same

[14:58] time because it is difficult, but I am

[14:59] curious how you see that. Because that

[15:01] is also well can be very personal. How,

[15:03] how do you approach that? And I am

[15:06] especially curious what can we see or

[15:08] experience of that in the new app?

[15:11] Yes. No. Yes, a very good question. Um,

[15:14] so indeed for people, just as a matter

[15:17] of perception, if you don't uh uh know

[15:19] us or use or

[15:21] is that we so indeed so actually was

[15:23] naturally that with me always

[15:24] underneath. But it is very beautiful to

[15:26] be able to bring it out in a certain

[15:28] form, isn't it, with yoga. You just

[15:30] need very few words, because everyone

[15:32] feels what kind of power it has within

[15:34] itself, what it does. Um, but we also

[15:39] notice of course, yes, we had back then

[15:41] in that series, you can imagine that

[15:43] they were already a few years ago, it

[15:45] is bizarre where that time uh goes but

[15:47] um, I think of, yes, after the summer,

[15:49] 2 years ago, um, is that you naturally

[15:51] see that indeed the majority of people

[15:54] in a certain way, whether it is via the

[15:56] left or the right, feel: hey, I do have

[15:58] a mental challenge, and then that alone

[16:00] can be in the form of: I sleep bad,

[16:02] because I had rushed. Um, I uh, or in a

[16:08] burnout, but that can go even further

[16:10] into anxiety disorders or all kinds of

[16:12] disorders. And what you say about that

[16:14] indeed, that is very personal for

[16:16] everyone. So they see that it is really

[16:18] necessary, especially for people to be

[16:20] able to work on that independently at

[16:21] home. That has always been my thing too

[16:24] , if you look at my past 15 years in

[16:26] which I have been increasingly occupied

[16:28] with this. Um, for me, it was the only

[16:31] solution to be able to do it

[16:32] independently at home every day.

[16:34] Yes.

[16:35] Uh, because going to a therapist

[16:36] occasionally uh, that didn't make much

[16:38] difference, and an occasional session

[16:40] here and there. Um, I didn't have a

[16:42] whole lot to spend at that time either.

[16:44] Um, and from that experience, I know

[16:46] how important it is to be independent,

[16:48] to also feel like, hey, I can do this

[16:50] myself too. And now, of course,

[16:51] ultimately, but that too uh, therapy or

[16:53] back then. Ultimately, you naturally

[16:55] always have to do everything yourself.

[16:56] So

[16:57] exactly.

[16:58] Yes. And how wonderful that you then uh

[17:01] , will soon have a very uh, broad range

[17:03] of options for indeed everyone's own

[17:04] challenge. And again, it is not the

[17:09] case that because we focus on mental

[17:10] health, that it is about things like an

[17:12] anxiety disorder—which I have dealt

[17:14] with myself—or very heavy things. It

[17:17] is really for anyone

[17:19] who notices: "Hey, that Red Race, that

[17:22] overheated world...

[17:23] um, I'm struggling with that and I'm

[17:25] looking for ways to deal with it.""So

[17:28] that could mean you literally want to

[17:30] fix something, or that you just want to

[17:32] enjoy every day, or perhaps sleep

[17:33] better. Well, with the previous app,

[17:36] you naturally came here, because the

[17:38] session selection was already at nearly

[17:40] 100 sessions. The only tricky thing was

[17:42] that, uh, the more sessions were added,

[17:44] the more unclear it actually became. At

[17:46] a certain point, it became a nice,

[17:48] clear-cut situation—there is, of

[17:49] course, a

[17:49] precise explanation for everything. So

[17:51] there is something behind everything—

[17:52] but at a certain point, well,

[17:53] especially for new people, that became

[17:55] difficult. So with the current app, uh,

[17:57] there is a lot behind it. But one of

[18:00] the things I'm really happy with is

[18:01] that we have a sort of uh guide section

[18:03] and an audio guide section where we—

[18:05] you know, yeah, right—can put

[18:06] hundreds of guides in there. Those are

[18:10] basically a sort of mini-programs where

[18:12] you—well, per challenge, per theme,

[18:13] you know—call it poor sleep, burnout,

[18:15] or if you want to learn to meditate, or

[18:17] if you're going to start gardening. So,

[18:20] all ways to work on your mental health.

[18:23] In those, we create mini-programs, and

[18:25] then you are also guided by those

[18:26] sessions that are there." 100%suitable

[18:29] for his

[18:30] uh taken along.

[18:31] But it’s not that broad for a moment

[18:32] without getting carried away, because

[18:34] you say now and you say yes yes it

[18:35] is right now at this moment we are

[18:36] launching four guides. So four new

[18:38] themes. Well, surrounding that there

[18:40] are of course more included.

[18:41] Uh but we do go that far.

[18:43] And that is until the end is that going

[18:45] to be that you start mindful cooking or

[18:47] I don't know what. Uh

[18:48] exactly. Yes,

[18:50] so people can also uh submit their own

[18:52] themes uh once a quarter uh and then we

[18:54] are going to do things with that, but

[18:56] things like indeed uh gardening,

[18:57] vegetable gardens, uhm mindful walking,

[18:59] well, you name it. Uh as I said, so

[19:03] they are lighthearted themes, but we

[19:05] also tackle

[19:06] the heavy themes so that we hope that,

[19:08] for example, in 12 months, really

[19:10] everyone uhm yes no okay

[19:12] can come to us.

[19:14] So so now I'm starting a bit so apart

[19:16] from well of course just the sessions

[19:18] and the uh the guided meditations you

[19:20] also have so really guides mini-guides

[19:23] that take you into a certain theme.

[19:25] Okay, nice.

[19:26] Yes. Well, and we put all the courses

[19:28] we offer on the app. So you can watch

[19:30] video soon too. So basically, soon

[19:32] you’ll literally have

[19:33] that feel-good therapy for yourself

[19:35] right in your pocket. Um, with which

[19:39] hopefully most people—because

[19:41] exceptions aside, um yes—have their

[19:43] own tools and just work independently

[19:45] at home and not be dependent on.

[19:48] No, no, no. I’m looking forward to

[19:50] the session. We’re really going to do

[19:52] that um right now. Um let’s see, but

[19:54] first a few messages.

[19:55] Patricia is texting right vulnerability

[19:57] , or rather, I say because she says it

[19:59] with a capital letter, Eliane’s right

[20:01] vulnerability ensures that I keep

[20:03] trusting and that I especially don’t

[20:05] have to think that it will ever be over

[20:06] . It is part of you and you learn to

[20:08] deal with it and then you can go very

[20:10] far.

[20:10] Well, what is yes it isn’t really

[20:12] what a beautiful. Yes, and beautiful to

[20:14] indeed add to that that we were of

[20:16] course talking about it in the

[20:17] beginning um the the my life is in your

[20:19] life it is still full of challenges.

[20:22] Um and I sometimes have you then that

[20:24] little voice in my head comes up saying

[20:26] oh Yeah, but you shouldn't show that,

[20:27] because otherwise people will think, "

[20:29] Why would I use that app if you still

[20:31] have stress in your life too?"

[20:33] But I actually hope to show that

[20:35] despite that, you know, life remains

[20:38] stressful, especially as time goes on.

[20:40] Yeah. Um, that you just get better at

[20:42] dealing with it.

[20:44] Because I don't believe that we all

[20:46] have to sit enlightened on a mountain

[20:47] and that that is my task too.

[20:49] No,

[20:51] but it is my task to live it and to

[20:53] show, "Hey, I'm just a human being too,

[20:55] " and I hope

[20:57] that with this, you are just a bit more

[20:59] resilient against this overstressed

[21:00] world.

[21:01] Yeah. Just a bit, well, to be able to

[21:03] pick yourself up faster, or at least

[21:04] when you're lying on the ground, to

[21:06] know this will be okay, you know. Uh,

[21:07] exactly that too. Yeah. And then I

[21:10] think it's actually nice to have an

[21:11] example, uh, of someone who was

[21:13] always messing around with a bad

[21:14] example and saying, "

[21:15] No, no, no, no."

[21:17] And it's getting better and better, so

[21:19] yeah. No, but I think so too, you know.

[21:21] Uh, yeah, that applies to me. It's the

[21:24] same with keratin,

[21:24] where I also think, yeah, you know, if

[21:27] I, uh, yeah, well, it's clear.

[21:30] Never trust the people you follow who

[21:32] seem like they, uh, will never have a

[21:34] relapse or a stressful moment again.

[21:36] That's just not realistic. No, and of

[21:38] course, social media has a whole kind

[21:40] of cracked...But anyway,

[21:41] uh, Simone, uh...Oh, this is pretty, uh

[21:44] , intense. Simone, wishing you strength

[21:47] already. Uh, hello Eliaan, I have the

[21:49] app. Very satisfied customer. Next week

[21:51] I'm starting a course of treatment to

[21:53] undergo chemo and immunotherapy.

[21:55] Which healing meditation do you

[21:57] recommend?

[21:59] Wow. Yes, and that is also special to

[22:01] hear. It's also nice to pick up on that

[22:03] again, that we, uh...that comes up far

[22:05] too little right now, but we, uh,

[22:07] support the Stiek Ziek Gelukkig

[22:09] foundation, uh, of Ruud and Wolde, who

[22:11] passed away a few years ago.

[22:12] And that is also exactly why we, uh...

[22:14] we are going to put that foundation

[22:16] bigger on the map again. That is

[22:18] basically guidance for people who are

[22:19] indeed entering a course of

[22:21] chemotherapy. or immunotherapy or, uh,

[22:23] radiation to support them mentally,

[22:26] both before, during, and after. Um, so

[22:29] that’s what we’re going to do at

[22:31] the Anthony van Lebenhoek Hospital. So,

[22:33] uh, yeah, very nice. So, yes, sessions

[22:35] that can help with that. Uh, Simone,

[22:38] otherwise it might be nice if you could

[22:40] just send us a uh message via the

[22:41] Instagram after this, because there are

[22:43] a whole lot of them.

[22:44] Yes, so

[22:46] then uh, I can share those. And on the

[22:48] new app, you can also start searching

[22:49] for things like self-healing capacity

[22:51] later on.

[22:51] So keep that in mind for everyone

[22:53] watching as well.

[22:54] Yes. Um, those are a number of sessions

[22:56] that can provide extra support, right?

[22:58] So it really doesn't take away any

[23:00] treatment at all. But

[23:01] no, exactly.

[23:03] I certainly believe in the

[23:04] collaboration, that it can reinforce

[23:06] each other. And fortunately, the

[23:08] hospitals see that positively now too.

[23:11] Yes, I have to say definitely, because

[23:14] even uh, our old boss Dik Swaap, uh, he

[23:16] ,

[23:17] yes, he is now a bit, yes, a bit older.

[23:20] He is uh, almost 80. Uh, and yes, in

[23:23] that respect, it is also nice because

[23:25] we also talked about your uh

[23:27] antidepressant use.

[23:30] And he is a doctor, of course, so he is

[23:32] a big proponent of medication. We were

[23:34] going to talk about that for a bit.

[23:36] But

[23:37] I found it, well, sort of reassuring

[23:39] that he, too, saw the uh dangers of

[23:42] that. Well, exactly.

[23:45] And um, well, he mentioned that all

[23:47] those other things had a placebo effect

[23:49] , but he did believe in the placebo

[23:51] effect. So, uh, yeah.

[23:54] Yeah.

[23:54] Yeah, exactly. So, somewhere, with all

[23:57] sorts of detours, we are almost on the

[23:59] same level. Only that is, of course,

[24:01] yeah. And it is also a huge generation

[24:02] gap. So that is just already very brave

[24:04] that he, uh,

[24:05] no,

[24:05] well, that he went for a conversation

[24:07] with Kukaru too.

[24:08] I thought so too. No, I thought so too.

[24:10] I myself was, let me state this, I am

[24:11] personally really not satisfied with

[24:13] the conversation at all. I wasn't

[24:15] sitting comfortably in it and, well,

[24:16] anyway, it happened. I almost had a

[24:18] moment, because let me be honest then,

[24:20] if you just mentioned a sort of honesty

[24:22] .

[24:23] I really thought I'm going to call him

[24:25] and say that, say that that the

[24:26] recording failed, uh, and then see if

[24:28] he wants to make a new appointment. And

[24:30] then I thought: "Yeah, but I really

[24:32] can't do that, and that's just not the

[24:34] way it is.

[24:34] I sincerely hope that there will be

[24:36] some kind of second time someday.""Well

[24:38] , a second.

[24:39] Yes, maybe he sees that himself too.

[24:41] But this is also very relatable, and

[24:43] sometimes it just is what it is.

[24:44] Yeah.

[24:45] Uh, and to show that you too...Yes,

[24:46] that you too, after all these years,

[24:48] are still not perfect. But that's never

[24:49] going to happen either.

[24:50] No, fortunately that's never going to

[24:52] happen. That's nice. Well, many thanks

[24:54] from uh uh Simone who asked the

[24:55] question about that therapy. I'll do

[24:57] two more questions and then I really

[24:59] want to go to uh the session. Yeah.

[25:00] Yeah.

[25:01] Uh Janine says:" A fan of Kekro and

[25:02] Eliana for years, do you have any tips

[25:04] on how to get my 16-year-old son on

[25:06] board with this? "" Unfortunately, he

[25:07] finds all of this super vague and he

[25:09] doesn't want to spend time relaxing to

[25:11] deal with his anxieties and chronic

[25:12] stomach pain.

[25:13] Oh dear. Yeah, so 16 years old too,

[25:15] right? Yeah.

[25:16] Yeah. Um, good news too. It won't all

[25:18] be finished next month, of course,

[25:20] because we're already Hallelujah for us

[25:22] that mail. I just emailed our members

[25:25] too about it feels a bit like the

[25:27] millennium eh moment passing tomorrow.

[25:31] Oh my god. So that's already for us,

[25:33] right. If that all goes well then I can

[25:35] lie by the pool for a bit.

[25:36] That will be necessary too. maybe even

[25:38] on a ventilator. Um, but eh that's also

[25:42] high on the list eh for teenagers, for

[25:44] children eh of course. Yeah, so

[25:47] you still have to do it yourself though

[25:49] , but that is eh well okay,

[25:50] you have to do it yourself, but I can

[25:52] imagine that it that it well eh yeah,

[25:54] no, you can imagine at 16 you shouldn't

[25:56] have come to me with this either, I

[25:58] think.

[25:58] I don't know. Yeah, that was just still

[26:00] there. "Not really.

[26:01] Uh, this one is actually quite specific

[26:03] . Uh, a bit less intense. Uh, at least

[26:06] yeah, that's just what I'm saying now,

[26:07] but uh still, uh, because I have my leg

[26:09] in the cast right now, I'm struggling

[26:11] more with the mental side. I'm having

[26:13] trouble accepting it and letting go of

[26:15] being able to do little and asking for

[26:16] help.

[26:17] Uh, well anyway, actually the tip

[26:19] question is whether there's something

[26:21] like a

[26:22] session for this, so to speak, in the

[26:24] House of Deep Relax app.

[26:26] Good one. Uh, well, I think about

[26:28] what's going on in this case, and I

[26:30] think for anyone who has ever had uh

[26:32] physical setbacks, it is very

[26:34] recognizable to me, at least. Uh, you

[26:36] know, that you can't do something again

[26:38] and that you can't keep up with the

[26:39] rest and there's so much to do and you

[26:41] have to ask for help and you're a

[26:43] burden and well, you name it.

[26:44] Uh, and that is actually that, uh, that

[26:46] negative voice in our head. Suppose you

[26:48] could switch that off, yeah, then

[26:50] you're still lying there with your leg

[26:51] in a cast. Uh, then you still have to

[26:53] ask for help, but then you're judging

[26:55] yourself for it. not on. So I would

[26:57] just say, very practically right now,

[26:59] uh, go do the session, uh, magic. And

[27:03] that is a session where you very

[27:04] consciously keep stepping out of that

[27:06] voice and also very consciously reflect

[27:08] on that. But there are others too, yes,

[27:11] maybe it would be nice to send a, uh,

[27:13] DM later as well.

[27:14] Yes, okay. Can we? I'm totally excited,

[27:17] and so am I as a, uh, House of Deep

[27:19] Relax member. So curious about what's

[27:21] new in the app. Had a subscription for

[27:22] a few years already. And Nadine also

[27:24] says:" I'm so curious about the new app

[27:26] . "Um, Sabine doesn't know it. Can you

[27:28] download the app on the laptop too?

[27:30] Wasn't that actually the case, right?

[27:33] It is possible. You can, let's say, via

[27:35] the website, uh, so then they just have

[27:37] to send us an email. Um, but it's not a

[27:39] new app then, of course. No, so unless

[27:42] you do it on your iPad, right, on your

[27:44] tablet. We also just have Android or,

[27:46] uh, phone, of course, but yeah,

[27:48] an app is convenient. And, uh, well,

[27:50] an app is...Yes, that is better.

[27:52] Yes. And Marian says just a moment, and

[27:54] she's right about that and we all agree

[27:56] , including Dik Swaap. A placebo effect

[27:57] is still an effect, after all. It's

[27:59] just a word; it's about the result. And

[28:01] I am absolutely exact about that.

[28:02] Well, that is, uh, that is, that is,

[28:04] that is, that is, that I have recovered

[28:06] under, among other things, uh. Exactly.

[28:08] So, uh, now I have a quick housekeeping

[28:10] question for you. First, uh, a

[28:12] breathing session and then yoga nidra,

[28:14] to,

[28:14] yes, exactly. Yes. Yes. Okay.

[28:18] Uh,

[28:18] before everything goes completely wrong

[28:20] later.

[28:20] No, exactly. No, no, we are going, we

[28:22] are going to sit nicely, uh, I think

[28:24] I'm going to uh sit comfortably on my

[28:26] cushion. Or, uh, is it uh, lie down? Uh

[28:29] , it's okay to lie down. Yes, I was

[28:31] just thinking that too, but I think

[28:33] let's just, uh, because I obviously

[28:34] have a shorter breathing session and a

[28:36] shorter Nina, sort of together.

[28:38] So I think it's just nice if you're

[28:39] already lying down.

[28:40] Uh, then we'll just go straight through

[28:42] . But I’ll just give you a little

[28:44] hint: we’re moving on to yoga now,

[28:45] Nina,

[28:46] and then you can put on some quieter

[28:48] music.

[28:48] Perfect. Perfect.

[28:50] Go enjoy that. So this is the sneak

[28:52] preview holder, because I forgot to

[28:54] mention that. Uh, subscription holders

[28:56] are aware and they just get emails. And

[28:58] tomorrow is the day, at least if

[29:00] you’re watching this live, sometime

[29:01] this week. So, let’s

[29:03] just relax.

[29:04] Yeah. Monday. Yeah.

[29:06] Uh, but if you’re watching right now

[29:07] and you’re thinking:" Oh, maybe

[29:09] you’ve tried it before in the past or

[29:11] are completely...is this completely new

[29:12] to you? "Exactly.

[29:14] This is what I think is really awesome.

[29:16] Uh, that people who see it, the cool

[29:19] kids through the House of Deep Relax,

[29:21] through Elian to be specific, um, get

[29:23] to just go into the app without paying

[29:25] a subscription. Because you’re

[29:27] hosting an open house.

[29:29] Exactly. We’re having an open house.

[29:31] Uh, that sounds like it always reminds

[29:32] me of an open house, uh, when you went

[29:34] to a course to take a look, and high

[29:36] school feels a bit like an open house

[29:37] too.

[29:38] Yeah. Uh, so we have a few...I expect

[29:40] starting Thursday, but I'm not allowed

[29:42] to make any firm statements anymore.

[29:44] First, survive tomorrow. Uh, and then

[29:46] starting Thursday we have, uh, or at

[29:48] least we have a few days at the end of

[29:50] the week, an open house. So then you

[29:52] can try everything completely for free.

[29:54] And it's not like you're tied to

[29:55] anything afterwards either.

[29:56] Exactly. Then you can try everything,

[29:58] but it's not like there's

[30:00] a catch beforehand. Sure, I'm going to

[30:04] send you an uh offer, but you don't

[30:06] have to use it. To do

[30:07] so, click the link in the description,

[30:09] leave your email address, and you'll be

[30:11] notified. I'm suddenly thinking, maybe

[30:13] it was your team that

[30:14] tried to sabotage this stream because

[30:16] it's just too early.

[30:17] Exactly. It is actually still too early

[30:19] , actually. Next week would have been

[30:21] perfect, but again,

[30:23] tell God your plans and uh will love.

[30:26] So open house, we can talk about that

[30:27] later, but right now we're mainly just

[30:29] going to relax. I put on the music and

[30:31] take it away. Yes. Well, I would say,

[30:35] um, stay and watch for just a moment.

[30:37] I'm going to uh explain the technique.

[30:40] So we're going to start with a short,

[30:42] powerful warm-up session to uh bring

[30:44] the focus back and to prepare your

[30:45] nervous system for very deep relaxation

[30:47] afterwards. Um, we're going to work in

[30:52] uh, actually, a kind of connected

[30:53] breathing. I always find this a bit

[30:56] nicer than the really powerful

[30:58] connected breathing. So in a moment,

[31:01] we're going to uh breathe in through

[31:02] the nose and out through the mouth in a

[31:04] few phases. Um, so maybe it's nice to

[31:07] see what we're doing for a moment. Uh,

[31:10] so that when you lie down in a moment,

[31:12] you can close your eyes and just follow

[31:14] my uh, yes, instructions. Um, we're

[31:17] going to breathe in two rounds. So

[31:20] basically, it's uh over before you know

[31:22] it, but with a lot of effect. Um, I'll

[31:25] just grab my stopwatch in the meantime,

[31:27] so I can keep an eye on how long we're

[31:29] taking with this. So, we're going to

[31:32] breathe as follows. In a moment, lying

[31:34] down, you breathe in through your nose.

[31:36] But we don't do that all at once. We

[31:39] actually breathe into our belly, into

[31:41] our chest, so to speak. And then, if

[31:43] you can manage it, up to your head and

[31:45] then you breathe out all at once. So

[31:47] you should actually visualize it as

[31:49] making a very big circle starting from

[31:51] your belly and then breathing out all

[31:52] at once again. So, a very big circle.

[31:55] Breathe, breathe, breathe, and out. So

[31:57] just follow along. So you breathe in,

[32:00] in three phases, and then you breathe

[32:02] out all at once. So then you are

[32:06] actually back at your feet, so to speak

[32:08] . Then you breathe into your belly

[32:09] again with your nose or mouth closed.

[32:13] Breathe out through your mouth. So this

[32:16] is basically the sequence. And if the

[32:18] breathing takes too long for you, if

[32:20] you get into trouble, then you can

[32:21] always exhale sooner. So stick to your

[32:23] own rhythm. But of course, I will give

[32:26] the instruction based on that whole

[32:28] breathing and then exhaling. So very

[32:30] much from your belly, your chest, your

[32:34] head. So as if you were a kind of

[32:35] balloon. And then you exhale completely

[32:37] . Yes. Alright. Well, I hope that is

[32:39] clear, and if not, no worries. Just

[32:41] join in and, uh, it can't really go

[32:43] wrong. Come lie down comfortably, uh,

[32:46] in a spot that feels good. And then, if

[32:53] you are already lying down, for now

[32:55] until the end of the session—so after

[32:57] this we will finish in a relaxed nidra

[32:59] meditation—you may remain lying with

[33:01] your eyes closed. When you are lying

[33:07] down, consciously feel your feet, your

[33:12] hands for a moment. For your breathing.

[33:26] And if you have the idea that my

[33:28] breathing is going in all directions,

[33:30] my mind is going in all directions, no

[33:32] worries. That is why we are doing this

[33:34] now, to get you out of that for a

[33:35] moment. And more into focus, more into

[33:39] relaxation, and more into your body.

[33:50] When you are ready, we will start

[33:52] immediately, so you don't have to think

[33:54] about it too much. We will start with

[33:57] the first round. We will do that for a

[33:59] few minutes; I will indicate when you

[34:01] may take a break. So just breathe

[34:03] calmly along with me. So you close your

[34:05] mouth, you breathe in and out. Breathe

[34:11] in, belly, chest, head and out. Belly,

[34:16] chest, head and out. Belly, chest, head

[34:20] and out. Deep in and out. Deep in and

[34:28] out. Come on, don't overthink it. You

[34:31] might start to feel tingling, or feel a

[34:32] lot of pressure somewhere. That is all

[34:35] part of it, because you are taking in a

[34:36] lot of oxygen right now. And your

[34:38] system is reacting to that. But that is

[34:40] perfectly okay. As long as you breathe

[34:44] in through your nose and out through

[34:46] your mouth, nothing can go wrong. So

[34:48] breathe in and out. Deep in and out.

[34:55] Breathe in your belly, chest, head and

[34:57] out. Belly, your chest, your head and

[35:00] out. Belly, chest, head and out.

[35:04] You’ve already been going for a

[35:06] minute. We’re adding another two. So

[35:07] come on. In, in, in and out. In, in, in

[35:13] and out. And out. Just see if you can

[35:21] breathe in a little deeper each time.

[35:22] You are probably feeling lightheaded

[35:24] now. If it really doesn't feel right,

[35:26] you can of course always stop or take

[35:28] over your own pace. That is all fine.

[35:31] Maybe you already feel that you

[35:32] actually want to relax. Just push

[35:34] through that for a little while longer.

[35:35] So keep breathing. Even if it feels

[35:37] like," I would prefer to just fall

[35:39] completely asleep right now. "Come on.

[35:44] Just one more minute right away and

[35:46] then we'll start counting down. Come on

[35:48] . In, in, and out. In, in, and out.

[35:53] Going really well. Come on. Really

[35:55] doing great. You're going to have five

[35:57] more of these for the whole Sunday.

[36:00] Another day. Come on. In, in, and out.

[36:05] In, in, and out. A little bit deeper

[36:09] each time. So 1%deeper every time if

[36:11] you manage it. Small steps. No need for

[36:14] big leaps. In, in, in, and release.

[36:18] Breathe all the way to your brain. Make

[36:20] space everywhere and let go. Come on.

[36:23] And release. Start counting down almost

[36:27] to the short break. Alright, we're

[36:36] going to wind down. So we'll do another

[36:38] 10. Eight, so six, so five, so really

[36:53] almost four. Come on, three. A little

[36:58] bit deeper each time. 2 1. Breathe out.

[37:05] Breathe in as deeply as possible. Then

[37:08] breathe out one more time, then in one

[37:10] more time and hold it first. So you

[37:14] don't breathe out anymore. Hold it.

[37:17] Maybe it feels nice to tense your body

[37:19] as if you really need to pee, but you

[37:21] have to hold it all in. Even further

[37:23] than that. Hold, hold, hold, hold, hold

[37:26] . And breathe out. And lie still for

[37:39] just a moment. I feel your sensations,

[37:45] tingles. Do you want to start analyzing

[37:51] your mind? Try to stay with the feeling

[37:56] . So what is flowing through you right

[37:58] now? Alri, to avoid thinking about it

[38:05] too long, we'll go straight on to that

[38:07] second round. And that is also the very

[38:10] last one before we enter the yoga nida.

[38:13] Timer on start again and we begin

[38:15] quietly. So you breathe into your belly

[38:17] , into your chest, towards your head,

[38:19] and completely empty and empty. So you

[38:25] can keep your eyes closed and focus

[38:27] solely on that breath. So in, in and

[38:31] out. In in and out. And a little deeper

[38:36] each time, okay? So then the last round

[38:38] . See if you can bring yourself to that

[38:41] 100%. Your 100%. That is different from

[38:44] anyone else's. That is okay. In, in, in

[38:48] and out. And maybe you only reach your

[38:50] chest. That is totally okay. Come on.

[38:52] You are already doing this. How cool

[38:54] that you are just lying here doing this

[38:56] on Sunday morning. Come on. In, in and

[38:59] out. Come on. You might even make a

[39:05] sound on your exhale. Everything out.

[39:10] All the from this week. Maybe even

[39:12] much longer. Come on. Soon it will be

[39:15] time for softness. Now it is time to go

[39:17] all out. Come in, in, and maybe you are

[39:24] completely overwhelmed by the emotions.

[39:26] Give in to that then, or just keep

[39:28] breathing. Come on. So as if you can

[39:35] breathe in further than your head. So

[39:37] from your belly, chest, head out. Belly

[39:41] , chest, head and out. Come on. We are

[39:46] already past the halfway point. This is

[39:48] a piece of cake. Come on, just keep

[39:50] going. Lightheaded. Tingling. It will

[39:56] probably all get worse. But try to

[39:58] breathe through it. Try to relax into

[40:01] it, knowing that it is part of the

[40:03] process, but that you always have a

[40:05] limit below which you are allowed to

[40:06] stay. Step out of your comfort zone.

[40:13] That is where happiness is ultimately

[40:15] to be found. Where the solutions lie

[40:18] that you might not have found yet. Come

[40:20] on. In, in, and out. In, in, out. Just

[40:31] a little while longer and then we’ll

[40:32] start counting down. So come on. Can

[40:34] you go a little deeper? Can you go a

[40:36] little further? Ah. Oh, this is going

[40:38] to give you so much relief. Soon.

[40:39] That’s what you do it all for.

[40:41] Alright. 109 left. 8. Last one. Six. 5.

[40:56] Four left. Come on. 3. 2 last ones. One

[41:06] . And then we’ll go very deep again.

[41:11] Completely empty. And then go in at

[41:14] your very, very, very deepest depth.

[41:17] And clench everything tight at the

[41:19] bottom of your body again, as if you

[41:20] really need to go to the toilet, but

[41:22] you really have to hold it in, because

[41:23] you really can't yet. And focus. And

[41:27] don't think too much. I can't do this.

[41:30] It’s taking too long. Stay in your

[41:33] body. We can do so much more there than

[41:37] we think. And breathe all the way out.

[41:54] Very well done. Gently return to that

[41:58] relaxed lying position if you weren't

[42:00] already. And then we will move on to

[42:08] the Yogaidra meditation. We are just

[42:11] going straight through. Gently, though,

[42:14] to music. Just see if you can still

[42:21] stay in your body. Feel your feet. Feel

[42:33] your hands everywhere—those

[42:41] sensations, that oxygen, all those

[42:43] tingles that you might be feeling

[42:45] inside your body right now. And focus

[42:52] on that. Blend your focus into your

[43:00] breathing. Is it a bit deeper for you?

[43:08] Is it easier now to breathe in from

[43:10] your belly, and to take all the time

[43:15] you need to breathe out again? See if

[43:24] you can especially lengthen the

[43:25] exhalation. Very gently. It can be very

[43:41] nice to bring yourself, as it were,

[43:47] into your mind right now to a place

[43:51] that for you represents safety,

[43:53] relaxation in a beautiful summer spot

[44:00] somewhere in nature, a memory. And you

[44:09] may also stay where you are right now,

[44:11] at this moment. And what makes this

[44:23] place so magical is that there are no

[44:25] obligations here, no expectations, no

[44:30] goals, no demands, in which you are

[44:36] completely in the here and now. Just

[44:43] see if that allows you to exhale a

[44:45] little deeper again. You don't have to

[45:00] imagine an endless, wonderful summer

[45:02] vacation lying ahead of you, where you

[45:04] only have to train and do whatever

[45:06] brings you the most pleasure or

[45:07] relaxation. And in that place, you may

[45:20] make your breathing a little more

[45:21] conscious again. You may start counting

[45:27] down with your breath in the following

[45:29] way: Count 15. I breathe in. 15 breathe

[45:40] out. 14. I breathe in. 14. I breathe

[45:51] out. And count back calmly in that way,

[45:57] right into your head. Sink deeper and

[46:19] deeper into just the breath. Then

[46:44] gently let go of the count and continue

[46:46] breathing in a relaxed manner. And with

[46:52] every exhale, sink deeper and deeper

[46:57] into relaxation, into surrender, into

[47:02] the here and now. And if you were

[47:16] allowed to make one decision for

[47:18] yourself today, something that is

[47:20] decided and executed immediately, what

[47:21] would that be? The first thing that

[47:25] comes to mind is right. For example:" I

[47:29] am completely relaxed. I set my

[47:32] boundaries effortlessly. I am healthy

[47:36] and fit. What is your most important

[47:39] decision today? What comes to mind

[47:42] first? That is your intention for this

[47:52] session. So be sure to repeat that

[47:55] three times in your head and feel that

[47:57] it is already so. A peace within that

[48:11] by returning all your attention to your

[48:13] body. Because of your calm breathing.

[48:23] You move your attention fully back to

[48:25] your feet for a moment, but as if you

[48:32] are diving right into them. Sensations,

[48:37] tingling. Now gradually feel how every

[48:48] part of your body becomes very heavy.

[48:54] So you let go of control more and more.

[48:59] And gravity takes everything from you.

[49:03] The earth carries you completely. Your

[49:10] feet are very heavy. As heavy as lead.

[49:18] Your legs and your pelvis sink heavy as

[49:25] stone. Your belly, chest, and shoulders

[49:33] sink deeper, your arms and your hands

[49:43] as if they are almost buried under the

[49:45] sand. Your head stinking bare. Just let

[50:02] your whole body rest on the heavy side.

[50:10] Let the earth carry you. Everything

[50:12] loose. Don't have to do anything

[50:20] yourself anymore. Completely heavy. And

[50:48] then you notice that your body is

[50:50] actually slowly detaching itself from

[50:51] that gravity of the earth. Very light

[50:57] and empty. Your feet completely light

[51:06] and empty. Your legs and your pelvis

[51:14] letting them go completely. Your belly,

[51:20] chest, shoulders. As light as a feather

[51:26] , floating in the air. Arms and hands,

[51:36] and you hardly feel them anymore.

[51:42] Everything consists of energy. Your

[51:49] whole body feels light and empty now,

[51:55] as if it could float in the air. Or

[52:01] becoming one with all the little clouds

[52:03] in the sky. Completely free. Dissolving

[52:14] completely into this. Feeling that you

[52:20] only exist. Energy, love, dissolving

[52:34] your entire body. With that disappears

[52:46] the 'musts', the roles, the obligation,

[53:00] just energy. What if you only have to

[53:11] be? And that is more than enough. I

[53:59] always say, of course you can stay

[54:00] lying here forever. And maybe it also

[54:08] feels good to quietly feel your whole

[54:10] body again, your breathing. To start

[54:19] moving a little more quietly. Just

[54:25] stretching out completely on this

[54:27] Sunday morning. Maybe just lying

[54:35] slightly on your back. Taking your

[54:37] knees into your chest for a moment, eh.

[54:39] Focusing your chest in your hands. And

[54:47] then, uh yes, you can stay lying here,

[54:49] but you can also go again Come sit down

[54:51] comfortably if you, uh, if it feels

[54:53] right. And welcome back to earth. Yes,

[55:05] welcome back to earth. Yes. Oh oh. What

[55:11] a, what a, what a gift this is. It

[55:14] feels so good to be back, doesn't it?

[55:16] My goodness, my goodness, my goodness.

[55:18] Yes. And and well, fantastic what words

[55:22] you choose for that. And how you also

[55:25] use handy tricks like holding pee and

[55:27] stuff that I suddenly, uh, that I, uh,

[55:30] oh, uh, yes, that it, what, uh, yes,

[55:33] how do you say that? Making it visual.

[55:35] Practical. Yes, exactly. And uh,

[55:38] practical, that is the word exactly. I

[55:40] do believe in that.

[55:41] Yes, I know that. But that is really...

[55:43] And then like that at the end, really

[55:45] just for a moment, and I’ll be honest

[55:47] , there are increasingly often moments

[55:49] when I get to taste of that, well,

[55:51] I’ll just say, you are good enough.

[55:53] Yes.

[55:53] Ooh, it, or at least it, is good as it

[55:56] is. Well, it’s kind of the same.

[55:58] It is good as it is. I think that is

[55:59] especially, uh, also when you just saw

[56:01] that lady with her legs in a cast.

[56:03] Yes.

[56:04] Uh, we always want to have our heads

[56:06] somewhere else. And whether you have

[56:08] your legs in a cast or are just walking

[56:10] around completely, uh, fit.

[56:11] Yes,

[56:13] that is really humanity's great

[56:15] challenge to, uh, just be happy here

[56:17] right now. Then then yes, then the

[56:20] earth will be saved quickly too. But

[56:21] anyway, we can work on that.

[56:23] Nice. Yes. Uh, we are really going to,

[56:26] uh, wrap up quickly, because we are

[56:28] almost at an hour already, but I, but I

[56:30] do like it when people share a bit more

[56:32] . Super nice, thank you, says Emmy. How

[56:34] nice, thank you all, says Marij.

[56:36] Always so much resistance before the

[56:37] breathing session, but afterwards it

[56:38] feels so good and powerful. Yes, I

[56:40] thought that was beautiful too, you

[56:41] just pushed a little bit anyway and

[56:42] that then

[56:43] maybe for the people who our app, uh,

[56:44] that it was again like, oh yes, because

[56:45] this was of course a very short one,

[56:47] like, sometimes we just have to taste

[56:48] that again. It is very recognizable, of

[56:50] course.

[56:50] Yes, thanks for the session. Finally a

[56:52] truly relaxed feeling again. Thank you

[56:54] sweetheart. Very nice,

[56:56] grateful. Little suns, little

[56:58] emotion icons with hands together and

[57:01] stars and thumbs up and hearts.

[57:03] How lovely, really. Yes. Well, this was

[57:08] indeed a bit but and thank you all for

[57:10] staying uh despite the delay.

[57:12] Yes, apologies for that indeed, but

[57:14] because of that I needed this session

[57:16] more than ever, I have to say. So that

[57:18] was great.

[57:20] Um and well, thank you so much Eliane

[57:22] for this, namely uh the open house,

[57:24] because that is really great.

[57:27] Exactly. Sign up everyone.

[57:29] Yes, sign up everyone via the link. Uh

[57:31] it’s free, it’s just leaving your

[57:33] email address and then uh well,

[57:35] you’re going to experience this week

[57:37] how it is

[57:39] you get an invitation if tomorrow if

[57:40] tomorrow everything still exists, if we

[57:42] haven’t moved to another dimension,

[57:44] then uh then you get an invitation with

[57:46] a definitive date.

[57:47] Yes. Yes. And that is well, that is uh

[57:50] uh yes, believe me, this was perhaps

[57:52] already I can see from many reactions

[57:54] very intense. Um

[57:55] exactly.

[57:56] Oh, it was 111.

[57:57] But you can totally be there.

[57:59] Yes. Yes. Yes. 111. Nice.

[58:02] But Good, right? Thanks. Well, off I go

[58:05] then, uh,

[58:05] and uh, I'll see you all somewhere next

[58:07] week, uh, at the open house, so I'll

[58:09] just let you know how that all goes.

[58:11] Yeah.

[58:12] And enjoy your Sunday, and you with

[58:14] your little one.

[58:15] You too. It'll work out.

[58:16] Thanks. Bye. Have a

[58:18] nice day. Hi.

[58:20] Thanks. Bye.

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House of Deeprelax is a Dutch-language relaxation app offering a daily portion of calm, with Yoga Nidra, breathwork, walking meditations and shaking sessions for people in the Neth…

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In this live session, a nervous system reset is a guided practice that combines slow, counted breathing with a cycle of tensing and releasing the body. The idea is that stress often lives as stored physical effort, and a deliberate release gives the body a clear signal to let it go. Eliane Bernhard frames it as something that builds over repeated practice rather than a single quick fix.
Ontlading is a Dutch word meaning discharge, and it is used in the description of this live session to name the release part of the practice. The listener tenses certain areas of the body, holds briefly, and then lets go with a full exhale. The purpose is to notice the difference between tension and relaxation.
Eliane Bernhard, who describes herself as a full-time entrepreneur and mother, says that sessions built for very busy people are the goal of the new app. The app's launch description lists short mini-holidays for hectic days, walking meditations, and breathing sessions alongside longer Yoga Nidra practices. In the stream she also argues that learning to say no to commitments is part of reducing chronic stress.
The stream describes House of Deeprelax as having started as a Yoga Nidra platform, a guided practice of deep rest. Over time it grew into a larger meditation and mental wellbeing app. The new version promoted in the livestream offers nearly 100 sessions and meditations, along with interactive guides, programmes and home retreats.
In the live session she explains that after becoming a mother she found strength in saying no to invitations that were not convenient, rather than going along with everything out of fear. She says the fear of what will happen after a no is often bigger than the event itself. Letting go of that constant bracing is, in her view, part of the same reset the breathing exercise is meant to create.
Yes, because the stream shows the practice being taught in real time, including a full breath-and-release exercise and a Q&A in which viewers ask questions. You can follow the guided instructions without the app and see how the practice feels before deciding whether to explore further. The video also gives a candid origin story from a founder who describes her own anxiety history.

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