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[0:14] Yes. Yes. Yes. Uh, I think I'm there. I
[0:22] , uh, yes, I just need to get some sort
[0:24] of confirmation. It's actually been a
[0:28] very crazy morning ever since early
[0:31] this morning, uh, when my sweet
[0:32] Josephine, as is supposed to happen,
[0:34] just acted a little differently than
[0:37] usual again. Every morning is different
[0:39] . But I had thought: "Oh, then she'll
[0:41] just play nicely and she can crawl." So
[0:43] , it's going well. I'll just do the
[0:46] newsletter and then we're off. Well, it
[0:50] went well in itself, but uh, she did
[0:52] need some attention. So that was a kind
[0:55] of chaos in my head. Then I thought: "
[0:58] Oh right, nice, live with Eliane now."
[1:00] Well, and really assuming a bit too
[1:02] much that it would all work out, I
[1:04] thought: "Oh right, I'll just put on
[1:06] some nice music for the exercise in a
[1:08] moment." And well, a kind of error.
[1:11] Well, computer problems. We all know
[1:13] the feeling. Then I thought for a
[1:15] moment, well, we're just a little late,
[1:17] because somewhere I thought, you know,
[1:19] I always like thinking in numbers: "Oh,
[1:21] would we really go live exactly on the
[1:23] 7th of the 7th?" Well, it ended up
[1:25] being the 15th, but uh, we're here. Uh,
[1:27] and I'm here. "Brabant quarter of an
[1:29] hour," says Femke. Okay then. I think
[1:31] that's really nice to hear. Uh, just
[1:34] plug Eliane in for a moment and I say:
[1:36] "How nice, Eliane, long time no see and
[1:39] nice that you're here." Yes. No, indeed
[1:43] . It is always this kind of morning
[1:45] again. Because I had exactly the same
[1:47] thing with uh, with that little girl of
[1:49] mine.
[1:50] So she's still not sleeping now either.
[1:52] It just goes to show that you...I was,
[1:54] uh, at a silence retreat a few weeks
[1:56] ago and among other things the quote,
[1:58] uh, if you wanna make God really love,
[2:01] tell him your plans in life. Uh, that
[2:04] kept coming back. Well, and I thought
[2:06] that was, uh, beautiful in these
[2:07] situations too. It's funny, too.
[2:11] Yes, we are here. And I, I said that to
[2:14] you while, in the meantime, I was very,
[2:15] uh, almost panicking about all sorts of
[2:17] things here. And I, I had to, I had to
[2:19] think about meditation in which I had
[2:21] that too, and you say: "I recognize
[2:23] that." Then you are actually busy,
[2:25] aren't you—in your case, with an
[2:27] amazing app that we are going to talk
[2:29] about in a moment—to give people,
[2:30] well, uh, relaxation.
[2:31] Relaxation. Exactly.
[2:33] And then, yes,
[2:34] and then behind the scenes you yourself
[2:36] are completely, completely.
[2:37] Yes, that really is. Yes. Yes,
[2:39] we are just human beings, aren't we?
[2:41] All of us.
[2:42] Yes. No, but it feels like such a
[2:43] paradox, but it is definitely something
[2:45] else whether you are aware of it and
[2:47] whether you
[2:48] can switch back to it being okay
[2:50] afterwards. And if it really was okay,
[2:52] if it hadn't worked out to get online,
[2:54] that you can also think, then it will
[2:55] be fine again.
[2:56] Yes. Yes,
[2:57] but we are here.
[2:58] We are here. Well, and I have to be
[3:00] honest, your name has been mentioned
[3:02] often. I, I just dropped meditation. I
[3:04] had design 2024 and people really did
[3:06] start sending me messages asking where
[3:09] is Eliana? And I did ask you all those
[3:12] times, but I also thought it was
[3:14] beautiful in a way
[3:15] and maybe I can take you along a bit in
[3:17] the process
[3:18] in the category of setting boundaries
[3:20] and saying no. Something that is
[3:22] difficult.
[3:22] Exactly.
[3:23] Um, did you actually do that?
[3:25] Yes. And there, uh, I think that helps
[3:28] a lot when you actually have a child.
[3:30] Before that, uh, I went along with
[3:31] everything and it was all a bit easier.
[3:33] And now, as you just described your
[3:35] morning, uh, that is still very
[3:37] unpredictable here too. So Luna is in a
[3:39] developmental leap again now, leap
[3:41] eight I believe. Yes. So she's suddenly
[3:43] going to act very differently too. Um,
[3:45] but I do notice that it can indeed give
[3:47] you a lot of strength if you dare to
[3:49] say no. Because yes, it is of course a
[3:52] unique opportunity, with your reach and
[3:54] with all the people participating, to,
[3:57] uh, say yes and join in. Um, but then I
[4:00] also found it very powerful indeed to
[4:01] think: "Yes, but it's just really not
[4:03] convenient right now and I'm not going
[4:05] to sit there in fear, because I know
[4:06] for sure it will be fine." Well, and
[4:08] now we're sitting here again,
[4:09] yes,
[4:10] with our own live session. So that's
[4:12] playing out really well too. Fantastic.
[4:14] And and and
[4:15] maybe that is just very private, but
[4:17] what were you busy with then? Because
[4:19] for me—and I understand that the
[4:21] grass is always greener on the other
[4:23] side of the hill. I think: "Oh, that
[4:25] Eliane lives abroad over there. She's
[4:28] sitting comfortably in a lovely bubble
[4:30] all day meditating a bit. Holding your
[4:33] little baby in her arms." Well no,
[4:35] right. Of course, by now I know better
[4:38] than anyone that, well, as everyone
[4:40] watching who is a father or mother
[4:42] knows, that is of course never really
[4:44] relaxing. But um no.
[4:46] Yes. How, what were you all doing
[4:48] lately? Yes, especially
[4:50] What was I doing? Well, so mainly busy
[4:52] with, well, what we are going to talk
[4:54] about now, building a uh, a revamped
[4:55] app. Actually, a completely new app.
[4:57] But uh, some little things will still
[4:59] look a bit like the old one. Most of it
[5:00] is really completely brand new. Um, and
[5:02] indeed, people very often have the
[5:04] impression—I happened to be thinking
[5:06] about this just before this session—
[5:07] of "oh, those are lying uh, especially
[5:09] that we are a bit behind schedule with
[5:11] the app." Um, that we were just lying
[5:12] by the pool all day and I thought: "You
[5:14] know what, let's do? Just launch a
[5:16] month later."
[5:17] Um, no, I'm actually a full-time
[5:19] entrepreneur and a mother and and
[5:22] um, but I think that's really nice too.
[5:24] Especially now that I've become a
[5:26] mother as well, because I always found
[5:27] it difficult to empathize with how busy
[5:29] you actually are as a parent? Um, that
[5:33] uh, yeah, that I actually feel now that
[5:35] I can tailor the offering even better,
[5:37] our sessions to people who are uh, just
[5:40] really busy.
[5:42] Yeah. Um, and that is actually quite a
[5:44] challenge to be able to empathize with
[5:46] that every now and then. So uh, but I
[5:48] do hope to lie by the pool a bit more
[5:50] after the launch. Yeah,
[5:53] that hasn't happened all that much yet.
[5:55] No. Oh, that's good to hear. Or rather,
[5:58] well, it's not good to hear, but funny
[6:00] how just when you just talk to someone
[6:02] for a bit and hear it, that it's just
[6:03] very different from the one to that uh,
[6:05] exactly. Well,
[6:06] and I say that too. often, because more
[6:08] and more people are moving to Spain
[6:10] here. Uh, and we probably all know that
[6:11] from the program*Ik vertrek*(I'm
[6:12] Leaving). It's not a case of
[6:14] you just taking yourself along.
[6:15] Yes. Yes.
[6:16] And that laptop and the company. So, uh
[6:18] , but anyway, it does help. Of course,
[6:21] the weather is always nice here, and
[6:22] that does make you at least a bit more
[6:24] energetic and happier
[6:25] for the people, because I'm just really
[6:27] going and we're going, uh, well, the
[6:29] questions can be asked, but let's just
[6:31] go back to basics for a moment first,
[6:32] because there are of course also people
[6:34] who don't know you at all. Uh,
[6:36] and you, well, I got to
[6:39] experience part of your journey, uh, on
[6:42] Slit.
[6:43] Yes. After you, after you were down
[6:45] here at the table, uh, for the first,
[6:47] for the first, koekeru conversation.
[6:49] Well, let me just phrase the question
[6:51] very openly. Who is Eliane?
[6:53] That is indeed a very open question. Um
[6:56] , yes, at the moment is indeed, uh,
[6:58] well, one of the founders of House
[7:00] Deplex. So I think people might mainly
[7:03] know me from that. And if they don't
[7:06] know What that is, that is uh yeah,
[7:08] until recently that was actually mainly
[7:10] a uh a uh we started out as a Yoga
[7:11] Nidra platform.
[7:13] Now we’ve actually been much more
[7:15] than that for quite a while. So we
[7:16] really have a very well-known
[7:18] meditation app that is used a lot. Um
[7:21] and well, now of course moving on to
[7:23] even more uh in that. And yes, my story
[7:27] in that is actually that uh it is very
[7:29] ...That is always very nice to tell:
[7:31] that a company that is now successful,
[7:33] that makes a huge impact on so many
[7:35] lives, that actually comes from my own
[7:37] uh yeah, quest that we talked a lot
[7:39] about in that podcast. About my uh, you
[7:43] know, that at my well, what would it be
[7:45] , about 17, I was already dealing with
[7:47] diagnoses like anxiety disorder and...
[7:49] yes,
[7:50] uh chronic pain. As almost always, you
[7:53] know, that viewers or listeners might
[7:55] forget that uh sometimes, but I find it
[7:57] fascinating how
[7:58] people actually become experts in
[8:00] something. Yes. because they themselves
[8:03] uh have problems with it. I mean, I
[8:04] think I think Kasper from I think de
[8:06] Meulen is great—I hope everyone
[8:08] thinks so too. I think he's a really,
[8:09] really good example because it's just a
[8:11] kind of relaxedness itself with his
[8:13] handpan and breathing exercises, and
[8:15] that just comes from a very, well,
[8:17] neurotic...well,
[8:19] I happened to read an article about him
[8:21] recently, because I have a...I was in
[8:23] his breadwork sessions, they are really
[8:25] good too. Yeah. And...then I indeed
[8:26] read that story that I thought: "Oh,
[8:28] it's so beautiful to see that there is
[8:30] indeed...oh, with everyone there is a
[8:31] completely different story...uh...
[8:32] behind it than just strength.""That is
[8:34] really, naturally, literally, and
[8:36] that is the power. And I also always
[8:38] say, I think I’d rather be coached by
[8:40] someone with lived experience, and
[8:41] certainly people like me—like Kasper
[8:43] —who have really been working on this
[8:45] for a very long time,
[8:48] than someone who just reads from books
[8:49] —with all due respect, but I do think
[8:51] that really makes a difference. And I
[8:54] think that is also the power of our
[8:55] sessions. That actually my journey—
[8:58] which, well, stopped with the doctors
[9:00] when I was 25. And from there, I
[9:02] actually, uh, um, yeah, went down this
[9:05] path of how I can heal myself without,
[9:07] uh, help from doctors, because that,
[9:09] well, that option apparently wasn't
[9:11] there. Um, and that worked. And I hope
[9:15] that you, uh, I think people hear that
[9:17] in the sessions too, right? So it’s
[9:19] really not from the perspective of how
[9:21] we can offer as many meditations and
[9:22] sessions as possible,
[9:24] but how we can offer those sessions
[9:25] with which people
[9:27] can really, well, make big changes for
[9:29] themselves as well.
[9:31] Yeah. And if you say healed, and I get
[9:33] it, uh, but then then I’m going to
[9:34] say a bit that is Whenever people talk
[9:36] about a quest, I don't think there’s
[9:38] a kind of moment when it’s finished.
[9:41] No, absolutely not. Like you, let's say
[9:45] , well, you dove into it yourself and
[9:47] found tools that you...well, indeed,
[9:49] initially with just yoga nidra, but
[9:51] that was...that was the opening for you
[9:54] , uh, to do it daily, or at least when
[9:56] you feel the need for it, but in any
[9:58] case, uh, to keep maintaining that.
[10:01] Because it is, yes, that's why I
[10:02] understand what you mean, but being
[10:04] cured feels a bit like bam, done. It
[10:06] isn't, and the funny thing is, there
[10:08] was nothing to cure anyway. Um, because
[10:10] it is precisely, you know, that is
[10:11] especially with that chronic pain. Um,
[10:13] with pain complaints, a lot of people
[10:15] have fibromyalgia in the Netherlands
[10:17] and all over the world. And that is
[10:19] just the tip of the iceberg of all the
[10:21] chronic conditions out there. Hm
[10:23] hm.
[10:24] Uh, the moment you find out what is
[10:25] behind it, that is already enough. So
[10:28] is it cured? Well, certainly not. It is
[10:31] actually healing and in that, uh, so
[10:33] that is also a kind of cliché answer,
[10:35] but that is because you see from which
[10:37] behavior chronic issues arise.
[10:40] Yes.
[10:41] Um and can make a huge difference in
[10:42] that. So yes, I wish that for everyone.
[10:44] Yes, it is funny. There is today and
[10:46] suddenly I feel that quite a lot is
[10:48] coming together. I already had that a
[10:50] bit when I was typing the email this
[10:51] morning in between tasks. Uh, is there
[10:54] a uh, well, for me a controversial guy.
[10:57] Well, he has been mentioned often. Uh,
[10:59] and then people didn't really agree
[11:00] with it. It is the man behind this
[11:02] banger or he has another banger. I
[11:05] am very curious now.
[11:06] Dik Swaap. We are our bride.
[11:08] Yes, I actually considered it a
[11:09] compliment that I woven that 'we' into
[11:11] the email and that he thought right
[11:12] below that, uh, I thought:" Wow, that
[11:14] is really beautiful. ""
[11:15] Yes, it is beautiful. And I, uh, well,
[11:17] recommend people definitely listen to
[11:19] that conversation. But I do think it
[11:21] aligns very well with,
[11:23] well, what I remember from the first
[11:25] conversation I had with you. Um, that
[11:29] did come up in another conversation
[11:31] later on, but you were very good to me
[11:33] at explaining the different states
[11:35] where our, well, our brains are, our
[11:37] nervous system actually, right?
[11:40] Yes.
[11:40] Um, and well, Dik Zwaap for those who
[11:43] don't know him, he is a neurologist. So
[11:45] he is very down-to-earth and not
[11:47] spiritual at all. I didn't know what
[11:49] was happening to me, because I was at
[11:50] his work and I saw a sort of big Buddha
[11:52] statue. I thought: 'What is this all of
[11:54] a sudden?' ""
[11:55] But that, well, okay, we talked about
[11:57] that. Uh,
[11:58] exactly.
[11:59] But it is, it comes together nicely and
[12:01] it is of course always nice and that is
[12:03] why I also like to broadcast this
[12:05] conversation, uh, well. Um, because yes
[12:08] , science is of course also, uh,
[12:10] important.
[12:11] Very important too.
[12:13] Good to know for the mind, too. And
[12:14] there is always, well, I don't have to
[12:16] explain that this year, and the people
[12:17] watching this certainly don't. Yes, I
[12:19] feel like there is always something
[12:20] more. And he just has this attitude of,
[12:22] yeah, as long as it isn't proven, it
[12:23] doesn't exist. But if you...
[12:24] That is his attitude. Yes, exactly. But
[12:27] anyway, he does it,
[12:28] so it is nice to let those two worlds
[12:30] come together a bit today. Because I
[12:32] absolutely believe in...I'm going to...
[12:33] uh, I think it is fantastic to indeed
[12:35] read scientific matters about the brain
[12:37] and about the nervous system and about
[12:39] how everything works. And I think that
[12:42] is also a must, especially as a
[12:43] provider like us with such a large
[12:45] reach,
[12:46] that you also know the scientific story
[12:48] behind it. Definitely.
[12:50] Um, and I just know From my own
[12:51] experience, it indeed goes much further
[12:54] than science. And that could also be
[12:56] because science simply isn't yet, uh,
[12:58] because this area is also new to
[13:00] science, so who knows where we'll be in
[13:02] 20 years. But anyway, even Yogaidra,
[13:05] the form of meditation we offer the
[13:07] most,
[13:07] uh, more and more scientific research
[13:09] is being done into that too. And what
[13:12] you said, those brain states, that is
[13:14] really something we can just uh
[13:15] substantiate and say out loud. Believe,
[13:18] that is, because I'm going to uh lead a
[13:20] Yogaidra session later on. So for the
[13:22] fans watching, uh, another completely
[13:25] new one.
[13:26] And then you do indeed go through those
[13:28] brain states. And you can explain that
[13:31] very scientifically, that because of
[13:33] that you enter all sorts of states of,
[13:35] uh, well, as you already said, also
[13:36] influenced by your nervous system, but
[13:39] you actually just end up in a, yes, in
[13:41] all sorts of special brain states.
[13:43] Yes. And that is really, uh, well, once
[13:46] you feel that and therefore also, yes,
[13:48] just like breathing and also through
[13:50] breathing, have control over it,
[13:53] uh, well, then you can
[13:55] uh Well,
[13:56] putting it out there for yourself.
[13:57] Exactly. Exactly.
[13:59] Absolutely. So that’s how it is, so
[14:01] both the scientific, uh, the analytical
[14:03] people today and the less so, they are
[14:05] all, uh,
[14:06] can all participate. I’ll just put
[14:08] the app number on screen for a moment.
[14:09] Questions can be asked, but I am
[14:11] especially curious about something we
[14:12] are going to see this coming week that
[14:14] you have really been working on for a
[14:15] long time. Because, well, you know, you
[14:17] started House of Deep Relax out of your
[14:20] own passion. Uh, that first with a few
[14:22] videos on YouTube, later with an app
[14:24] that really became a huge community.
[14:27] And then you went ahead again—that is
[14:29] why I said so—I got to be a part of
[14:31] that. Because in our conversation,
[14:34] actually, uh, to yes, you were just
[14:37] very honest about just, uh, mental
[14:39] health issues.
[14:41] Yes.
[14:42] And exactly.
[14:43] Uh, well, uh, super beautiful. We even
[14:46] filmed a series about it, but you
[14:47] mainly with House of Relax.
[14:49] Yes.
[14:50] I decided to, yes, show that side much
[14:53] more as well and support people in that
[14:55] .
[14:56] Which I also find difficult at the same
[14:58] time because it is difficult, but I am
[14:59] curious how you see that. Because that
[15:01] is also well can be very personal. How,
[15:03] how do you approach that? And I am
[15:06] especially curious what can we see or
[15:08] experience of that in the new app?
[15:11] Yes. No. Yes, a very good question. Um,
[15:14] so indeed for people, just as a matter
[15:17] of perception, if you don't uh uh know
[15:19] us or use or
[15:21] is that we so indeed so actually was
[15:23] naturally that with me always
[15:24] underneath. But it is very beautiful to
[15:26] be able to bring it out in a certain
[15:28] form, isn't it, with yoga. You just
[15:30] need very few words, because everyone
[15:32] feels what kind of power it has within
[15:34] itself, what it does. Um, but we also
[15:39] notice of course, yes, we had back then
[15:41] in that series, you can imagine that
[15:43] they were already a few years ago, it
[15:45] is bizarre where that time uh goes but
[15:47] um, I think of, yes, after the summer,
[15:49] 2 years ago, um, is that you naturally
[15:51] see that indeed the majority of people
[15:54] in a certain way, whether it is via the
[15:56] left or the right, feel: hey, I do have
[15:58] a mental challenge, and then that alone
[16:00] can be in the form of: I sleep bad,
[16:02] because I had rushed. Um, I uh, or in a
[16:08] burnout, but that can go even further
[16:10] into anxiety disorders or all kinds of
[16:12] disorders. And what you say about that
[16:14] indeed, that is very personal for
[16:16] everyone. So they see that it is really
[16:18] necessary, especially for people to be
[16:20] able to work on that independently at
[16:21] home. That has always been my thing too
[16:24] , if you look at my past 15 years in
[16:26] which I have been increasingly occupied
[16:28] with this. Um, for me, it was the only
[16:31] solution to be able to do it
[16:32] independently at home every day.
[16:34] Yes.
[16:35] Uh, because going to a therapist
[16:36] occasionally uh, that didn't make much
[16:38] difference, and an occasional session
[16:40] here and there. Um, I didn't have a
[16:42] whole lot to spend at that time either.
[16:44] Um, and from that experience, I know
[16:46] how important it is to be independent,
[16:48] to also feel like, hey, I can do this
[16:50] myself too. And now, of course,
[16:51] ultimately, but that too uh, therapy or
[16:53] back then. Ultimately, you naturally
[16:55] always have to do everything yourself.
[16:56] So
[16:57] exactly.
[16:58] Yes. And how wonderful that you then uh
[17:01] , will soon have a very uh, broad range
[17:03] of options for indeed everyone's own
[17:04] challenge. And again, it is not the
[17:09] case that because we focus on mental
[17:10] health, that it is about things like an
[17:12] anxiety disorder—which I have dealt
[17:14] with myself—or very heavy things. It
[17:17] is really for anyone
[17:19] who notices: "Hey, that Red Race, that
[17:22] overheated world...
[17:23] um, I'm struggling with that and I'm
[17:25] looking for ways to deal with it.""So
[17:28] that could mean you literally want to
[17:30] fix something, or that you just want to
[17:32] enjoy every day, or perhaps sleep
[17:33] better. Well, with the previous app,
[17:36] you naturally came here, because the
[17:38] session selection was already at nearly
[17:40] 100 sessions. The only tricky thing was
[17:42] that, uh, the more sessions were added,
[17:44] the more unclear it actually became. At
[17:46] a certain point, it became a nice,
[17:48] clear-cut situation—there is, of
[17:49] course, a
[17:49] precise explanation for everything. So
[17:51] there is something behind everything—
[17:52] but at a certain point, well,
[17:53] especially for new people, that became
[17:55] difficult. So with the current app, uh,
[17:57] there is a lot behind it. But one of
[18:00] the things I'm really happy with is
[18:01] that we have a sort of uh guide section
[18:03] and an audio guide section where we—
[18:05] you know, yeah, right—can put
[18:06] hundreds of guides in there. Those are
[18:10] basically a sort of mini-programs where
[18:12] you—well, per challenge, per theme,
[18:13] you know—call it poor sleep, burnout,
[18:15] or if you want to learn to meditate, or
[18:17] if you're going to start gardening. So,
[18:20] all ways to work on your mental health.
[18:23] In those, we create mini-programs, and
[18:25] then you are also guided by those
[18:26] sessions that are there." 100%suitable
[18:29] for his
[18:30] uh taken along.
[18:31] But it’s not that broad for a moment
[18:32] without getting carried away, because
[18:34] you say now and you say yes yes it
[18:35] is right now at this moment we are
[18:36] launching four guides. So four new
[18:38] themes. Well, surrounding that there
[18:40] are of course more included.
[18:41] Uh but we do go that far.
[18:43] And that is until the end is that going
[18:45] to be that you start mindful cooking or
[18:47] I don't know what. Uh
[18:48] exactly. Yes,
[18:50] so people can also uh submit their own
[18:52] themes uh once a quarter uh and then we
[18:54] are going to do things with that, but
[18:56] things like indeed uh gardening,
[18:57] vegetable gardens, uhm mindful walking,
[18:59] well, you name it. Uh as I said, so
[19:03] they are lighthearted themes, but we
[19:05] also tackle
[19:06] the heavy themes so that we hope that,
[19:08] for example, in 12 months, really
[19:10] everyone uhm yes no okay
[19:12] can come to us.
[19:14] So so now I'm starting a bit so apart
[19:16] from well of course just the sessions
[19:18] and the uh the guided meditations you
[19:20] also have so really guides mini-guides
[19:23] that take you into a certain theme.
[19:25] Okay, nice.
[19:26] Yes. Well, and we put all the courses
[19:28] we offer on the app. So you can watch
[19:30] video soon too. So basically, soon
[19:32] you’ll literally have
[19:33] that feel-good therapy for yourself
[19:35] right in your pocket. Um, with which
[19:39] hopefully most people—because
[19:41] exceptions aside, um yes—have their
[19:43] own tools and just work independently
[19:45] at home and not be dependent on.
[19:48] No, no, no. I’m looking forward to
[19:50] the session. We’re really going to do
[19:52] that um right now. Um let’s see, but
[19:54] first a few messages.
[19:55] Patricia is texting right vulnerability
[19:57] , or rather, I say because she says it
[19:59] with a capital letter, Eliane’s right
[20:01] vulnerability ensures that I keep
[20:03] trusting and that I especially don’t
[20:05] have to think that it will ever be over
[20:06] . It is part of you and you learn to
[20:08] deal with it and then you can go very
[20:10] far.
[20:10] Well, what is yes it isn’t really
[20:12] what a beautiful. Yes, and beautiful to
[20:14] indeed add to that that we were of
[20:16] course talking about it in the
[20:17] beginning um the the my life is in your
[20:19] life it is still full of challenges.
[20:22] Um and I sometimes have you then that
[20:24] little voice in my head comes up saying
[20:26] oh Yeah, but you shouldn't show that,
[20:27] because otherwise people will think, "
[20:29] Why would I use that app if you still
[20:31] have stress in your life too?"
[20:33] But I actually hope to show that
[20:35] despite that, you know, life remains
[20:38] stressful, especially as time goes on.
[20:40] Yeah. Um, that you just get better at
[20:42] dealing with it.
[20:44] Because I don't believe that we all
[20:46] have to sit enlightened on a mountain
[20:47] and that that is my task too.
[20:49] No,
[20:51] but it is my task to live it and to
[20:53] show, "Hey, I'm just a human being too,
[20:55] " and I hope
[20:57] that with this, you are just a bit more
[20:59] resilient against this overstressed
[21:00] world.
[21:01] Yeah. Just a bit, well, to be able to
[21:03] pick yourself up faster, or at least
[21:04] when you're lying on the ground, to
[21:06] know this will be okay, you know. Uh,
[21:07] exactly that too. Yeah. And then I
[21:10] think it's actually nice to have an
[21:11] example, uh, of someone who was
[21:13] always messing around with a bad
[21:14] example and saying, "
[21:15] No, no, no, no."
[21:17] And it's getting better and better, so
[21:19] yeah. No, but I think so too, you know.
[21:21] Uh, yeah, that applies to me. It's the
[21:24] same with keratin,
[21:24] where I also think, yeah, you know, if
[21:27] I, uh, yeah, well, it's clear.
[21:30] Never trust the people you follow who
[21:32] seem like they, uh, will never have a
[21:34] relapse or a stressful moment again.
[21:36] That's just not realistic. No, and of
[21:38] course, social media has a whole kind
[21:40] of cracked...But anyway,
[21:41] uh, Simone, uh...Oh, this is pretty, uh
[21:44] , intense. Simone, wishing you strength
[21:47] already. Uh, hello Eliaan, I have the
[21:49] app. Very satisfied customer. Next week
[21:51] I'm starting a course of treatment to
[21:53] undergo chemo and immunotherapy.
[21:55] Which healing meditation do you
[21:57] recommend?
[21:59] Wow. Yes, and that is also special to
[22:01] hear. It's also nice to pick up on that
[22:03] again, that we, uh...that comes up far
[22:05] too little right now, but we, uh,
[22:07] support the Stiek Ziek Gelukkig
[22:09] foundation, uh, of Ruud and Wolde, who
[22:11] passed away a few years ago.
[22:12] And that is also exactly why we, uh...
[22:14] we are going to put that foundation
[22:16] bigger on the map again. That is
[22:18] basically guidance for people who are
[22:19] indeed entering a course of
[22:21] chemotherapy. or immunotherapy or, uh,
[22:23] radiation to support them mentally,
[22:26] both before, during, and after. Um, so
[22:29] that’s what we’re going to do at
[22:31] the Anthony van Lebenhoek Hospital. So,
[22:33] uh, yeah, very nice. So, yes, sessions
[22:35] that can help with that. Uh, Simone,
[22:38] otherwise it might be nice if you could
[22:40] just send us a uh message via the
[22:41] Instagram after this, because there are
[22:43] a whole lot of them.
[22:44] Yes, so
[22:46] then uh, I can share those. And on the
[22:48] new app, you can also start searching
[22:49] for things like self-healing capacity
[22:51] later on.
[22:51] So keep that in mind for everyone
[22:53] watching as well.
[22:54] Yes. Um, those are a number of sessions
[22:56] that can provide extra support, right?
[22:58] So it really doesn't take away any
[23:00] treatment at all. But
[23:01] no, exactly.
[23:03] I certainly believe in the
[23:04] collaboration, that it can reinforce
[23:06] each other. And fortunately, the
[23:08] hospitals see that positively now too.
[23:11] Yes, I have to say definitely, because
[23:14] even uh, our old boss Dik Swaap, uh, he
[23:16] ,
[23:17] yes, he is now a bit, yes, a bit older.
[23:20] He is uh, almost 80. Uh, and yes, in
[23:23] that respect, it is also nice because
[23:25] we also talked about your uh
[23:27] antidepressant use.
[23:30] And he is a doctor, of course, so he is
[23:32] a big proponent of medication. We were
[23:34] going to talk about that for a bit.
[23:36] But
[23:37] I found it, well, sort of reassuring
[23:39] that he, too, saw the uh dangers of
[23:42] that. Well, exactly.
[23:45] And um, well, he mentioned that all
[23:47] those other things had a placebo effect
[23:49] , but he did believe in the placebo
[23:51] effect. So, uh, yeah.
[23:54] Yeah.
[23:54] Yeah, exactly. So, somewhere, with all
[23:57] sorts of detours, we are almost on the
[23:59] same level. Only that is, of course,
[24:01] yeah. And it is also a huge generation
[24:02] gap. So that is just already very brave
[24:04] that he, uh,
[24:05] no,
[24:05] well, that he went for a conversation
[24:07] with Kukaru too.
[24:08] I thought so too. No, I thought so too.
[24:10] I myself was, let me state this, I am
[24:11] personally really not satisfied with
[24:13] the conversation at all. I wasn't
[24:15] sitting comfortably in it and, well,
[24:16] anyway, it happened. I almost had a
[24:18] moment, because let me be honest then,
[24:20] if you just mentioned a sort of honesty
[24:22] .
[24:23] I really thought I'm going to call him
[24:25] and say that, say that that the
[24:26] recording failed, uh, and then see if
[24:28] he wants to make a new appointment. And
[24:30] then I thought: "Yeah, but I really
[24:32] can't do that, and that's just not the
[24:34] way it is.
[24:34] I sincerely hope that there will be
[24:36] some kind of second time someday.""Well
[24:38] , a second.
[24:39] Yes, maybe he sees that himself too.
[24:41] But this is also very relatable, and
[24:43] sometimes it just is what it is.
[24:44] Yeah.
[24:45] Uh, and to show that you too...Yes,
[24:46] that you too, after all these years,
[24:48] are still not perfect. But that's never
[24:49] going to happen either.
[24:50] No, fortunately that's never going to
[24:52] happen. That's nice. Well, many thanks
[24:54] from uh uh Simone who asked the
[24:55] question about that therapy. I'll do
[24:57] two more questions and then I really
[24:59] want to go to uh the session. Yeah.
[25:00] Yeah.
[25:01] Uh Janine says:" A fan of Kekro and
[25:02] Eliana for years, do you have any tips
[25:04] on how to get my 16-year-old son on
[25:06] board with this? "" Unfortunately, he
[25:07] finds all of this super vague and he
[25:09] doesn't want to spend time relaxing to
[25:11] deal with his anxieties and chronic
[25:12] stomach pain.
[25:13] Oh dear. Yeah, so 16 years old too,
[25:15] right? Yeah.
[25:16] Yeah. Um, good news too. It won't all
[25:18] be finished next month, of course,
[25:20] because we're already Hallelujah for us
[25:22] that mail. I just emailed our members
[25:25] too about it feels a bit like the
[25:27] millennium eh moment passing tomorrow.
[25:31] Oh my god. So that's already for us,
[25:33] right. If that all goes well then I can
[25:35] lie by the pool for a bit.
[25:36] That will be necessary too. maybe even
[25:38] on a ventilator. Um, but eh that's also
[25:42] high on the list eh for teenagers, for
[25:44] children eh of course. Yeah, so
[25:47] you still have to do it yourself though
[25:49] , but that is eh well okay,
[25:50] you have to do it yourself, but I can
[25:52] imagine that it that it well eh yeah,
[25:54] no, you can imagine at 16 you shouldn't
[25:56] have come to me with this either, I
[25:58] think.
[25:58] I don't know. Yeah, that was just still
[26:00] there. "Not really.
[26:01] Uh, this one is actually quite specific
[26:03] . Uh, a bit less intense. Uh, at least
[26:06] yeah, that's just what I'm saying now,
[26:07] but uh still, uh, because I have my leg
[26:09] in the cast right now, I'm struggling
[26:11] more with the mental side. I'm having
[26:13] trouble accepting it and letting go of
[26:15] being able to do little and asking for
[26:16] help.
[26:17] Uh, well anyway, actually the tip
[26:19] question is whether there's something
[26:21] like a
[26:22] session for this, so to speak, in the
[26:24] House of Deep Relax app.
[26:26] Good one. Uh, well, I think about
[26:28] what's going on in this case, and I
[26:30] think for anyone who has ever had uh
[26:32] physical setbacks, it is very
[26:34] recognizable to me, at least. Uh, you
[26:36] know, that you can't do something again
[26:38] and that you can't keep up with the
[26:39] rest and there's so much to do and you
[26:41] have to ask for help and you're a
[26:43] burden and well, you name it.
[26:44] Uh, and that is actually that, uh, that
[26:46] negative voice in our head. Suppose you
[26:48] could switch that off, yeah, then
[26:50] you're still lying there with your leg
[26:51] in a cast. Uh, then you still have to
[26:53] ask for help, but then you're judging
[26:55] yourself for it. not on. So I would
[26:57] just say, very practically right now,
[26:59] uh, go do the session, uh, magic. And
[27:03] that is a session where you very
[27:04] consciously keep stepping out of that
[27:06] voice and also very consciously reflect
[27:08] on that. But there are others too, yes,
[27:11] maybe it would be nice to send a, uh,
[27:13] DM later as well.
[27:14] Yes, okay. Can we? I'm totally excited,
[27:17] and so am I as a, uh, House of Deep
[27:19] Relax member. So curious about what's
[27:21] new in the app. Had a subscription for
[27:22] a few years already. And Nadine also
[27:24] says:" I'm so curious about the new app
[27:26] . "Um, Sabine doesn't know it. Can you
[27:28] download the app on the laptop too?
[27:30] Wasn't that actually the case, right?
[27:33] It is possible. You can, let's say, via
[27:35] the website, uh, so then they just have
[27:37] to send us an email. Um, but it's not a
[27:39] new app then, of course. No, so unless
[27:42] you do it on your iPad, right, on your
[27:44] tablet. We also just have Android or,
[27:46] uh, phone, of course, but yeah,
[27:48] an app is convenient. And, uh, well,
[27:50] an app is...Yes, that is better.
[27:52] Yes. And Marian says just a moment, and
[27:54] she's right about that and we all agree
[27:56] , including Dik Swaap. A placebo effect
[27:57] is still an effect, after all. It's
[27:59] just a word; it's about the result. And
[28:01] I am absolutely exact about that.
[28:02] Well, that is, uh, that is, that is,
[28:04] that is, that is, that I have recovered
[28:06] under, among other things, uh. Exactly.
[28:08] So, uh, now I have a quick housekeeping
[28:10] question for you. First, uh, a
[28:12] breathing session and then yoga nidra,
[28:14] to,
[28:14] yes, exactly. Yes. Yes. Okay.
[28:18] Uh,
[28:18] before everything goes completely wrong
[28:20] later.
[28:20] No, exactly. No, no, we are going, we
[28:22] are going to sit nicely, uh, I think
[28:24] I'm going to uh sit comfortably on my
[28:26] cushion. Or, uh, is it uh, lie down? Uh
[28:29] , it's okay to lie down. Yes, I was
[28:31] just thinking that too, but I think
[28:33] let's just, uh, because I obviously
[28:34] have a shorter breathing session and a
[28:36] shorter Nina, sort of together.
[28:38] So I think it's just nice if you're
[28:39] already lying down.
[28:40] Uh, then we'll just go straight through
[28:42] . But I’ll just give you a little
[28:44] hint: we’re moving on to yoga now,
[28:45] Nina,
[28:46] and then you can put on some quieter
[28:48] music.
[28:48] Perfect. Perfect.
[28:50] Go enjoy that. So this is the sneak
[28:52] preview holder, because I forgot to
[28:54] mention that. Uh, subscription holders
[28:56] are aware and they just get emails. And
[28:58] tomorrow is the day, at least if
[29:00] you’re watching this live, sometime
[29:01] this week. So, let’s
[29:03] just relax.
[29:04] Yeah. Monday. Yeah.
[29:06] Uh, but if you’re watching right now
[29:07] and you’re thinking:" Oh, maybe
[29:09] you’ve tried it before in the past or
[29:11] are completely...is this completely new
[29:12] to you? "Exactly.
[29:14] This is what I think is really awesome.
[29:16] Uh, that people who see it, the cool
[29:19] kids through the House of Deep Relax,
[29:21] through Elian to be specific, um, get
[29:23] to just go into the app without paying
[29:25] a subscription. Because you’re
[29:27] hosting an open house.
[29:29] Exactly. We’re having an open house.
[29:31] Uh, that sounds like it always reminds
[29:32] me of an open house, uh, when you went
[29:34] to a course to take a look, and high
[29:36] school feels a bit like an open house
[29:37] too.
[29:38] Yeah. Uh, so we have a few...I expect
[29:40] starting Thursday, but I'm not allowed
[29:42] to make any firm statements anymore.
[29:44] First, survive tomorrow. Uh, and then
[29:46] starting Thursday we have, uh, or at
[29:48] least we have a few days at the end of
[29:50] the week, an open house. So then you
[29:52] can try everything completely for free.
[29:54] And it's not like you're tied to
[29:55] anything afterwards either.
[29:56] Exactly. Then you can try everything,
[29:58] but it's not like there's
[30:00] a catch beforehand. Sure, I'm going to
[30:04] send you an uh offer, but you don't
[30:06] have to use it. To do
[30:07] so, click the link in the description,
[30:09] leave your email address, and you'll be
[30:11] notified. I'm suddenly thinking, maybe
[30:13] it was your team that
[30:14] tried to sabotage this stream because
[30:16] it's just too early.
[30:17] Exactly. It is actually still too early
[30:19] , actually. Next week would have been
[30:21] perfect, but again,
[30:23] tell God your plans and uh will love.
[30:26] So open house, we can talk about that
[30:27] later, but right now we're mainly just
[30:29] going to relax. I put on the music and
[30:31] take it away. Yes. Well, I would say,
[30:35] um, stay and watch for just a moment.
[30:37] I'm going to uh explain the technique.
[30:40] So we're going to start with a short,
[30:42] powerful warm-up session to uh bring
[30:44] the focus back and to prepare your
[30:45] nervous system for very deep relaxation
[30:47] afterwards. Um, we're going to work in
[30:52] uh, actually, a kind of connected
[30:53] breathing. I always find this a bit
[30:56] nicer than the really powerful
[30:58] connected breathing. So in a moment,
[31:01] we're going to uh breathe in through
[31:02] the nose and out through the mouth in a
[31:04] few phases. Um, so maybe it's nice to
[31:07] see what we're doing for a moment. Uh,
[31:10] so that when you lie down in a moment,
[31:12] you can close your eyes and just follow
[31:14] my uh, yes, instructions. Um, we're
[31:17] going to breathe in two rounds. So
[31:20] basically, it's uh over before you know
[31:22] it, but with a lot of effect. Um, I'll
[31:25] just grab my stopwatch in the meantime,
[31:27] so I can keep an eye on how long we're
[31:29] taking with this. So, we're going to
[31:32] breathe as follows. In a moment, lying
[31:34] down, you breathe in through your nose.
[31:36] But we don't do that all at once. We
[31:39] actually breathe into our belly, into
[31:41] our chest, so to speak. And then, if
[31:43] you can manage it, up to your head and
[31:45] then you breathe out all at once. So
[31:47] you should actually visualize it as
[31:49] making a very big circle starting from
[31:51] your belly and then breathing out all
[31:52] at once again. So, a very big circle.
[31:55] Breathe, breathe, breathe, and out. So
[31:57] just follow along. So you breathe in,
[32:00] in three phases, and then you breathe
[32:02] out all at once. So then you are
[32:06] actually back at your feet, so to speak
[32:08] . Then you breathe into your belly
[32:09] again with your nose or mouth closed.
[32:13] Breathe out through your mouth. So this
[32:16] is basically the sequence. And if the
[32:18] breathing takes too long for you, if
[32:20] you get into trouble, then you can
[32:21] always exhale sooner. So stick to your
[32:23] own rhythm. But of course, I will give
[32:26] the instruction based on that whole
[32:28] breathing and then exhaling. So very
[32:30] much from your belly, your chest, your
[32:34] head. So as if you were a kind of
[32:35] balloon. And then you exhale completely
[32:37] . Yes. Alright. Well, I hope that is
[32:39] clear, and if not, no worries. Just
[32:41] join in and, uh, it can't really go
[32:43] wrong. Come lie down comfortably, uh,
[32:46] in a spot that feels good. And then, if
[32:53] you are already lying down, for now
[32:55] until the end of the session—so after
[32:57] this we will finish in a relaxed nidra
[32:59] meditation—you may remain lying with
[33:01] your eyes closed. When you are lying
[33:07] down, consciously feel your feet, your
[33:12] hands for a moment. For your breathing.
[33:26] And if you have the idea that my
[33:28] breathing is going in all directions,
[33:30] my mind is going in all directions, no
[33:32] worries. That is why we are doing this
[33:34] now, to get you out of that for a
[33:35] moment. And more into focus, more into
[33:39] relaxation, and more into your body.
[33:50] When you are ready, we will start
[33:52] immediately, so you don't have to think
[33:54] about it too much. We will start with
[33:57] the first round. We will do that for a
[33:59] few minutes; I will indicate when you
[34:01] may take a break. So just breathe
[34:03] calmly along with me. So you close your
[34:05] mouth, you breathe in and out. Breathe
[34:11] in, belly, chest, head and out. Belly,
[34:16] chest, head and out. Belly, chest, head
[34:20] and out. Deep in and out. Deep in and
[34:28] out. Come on, don't overthink it. You
[34:31] might start to feel tingling, or feel a
[34:32] lot of pressure somewhere. That is all
[34:35] part of it, because you are taking in a
[34:36] lot of oxygen right now. And your
[34:38] system is reacting to that. But that is
[34:40] perfectly okay. As long as you breathe
[34:44] in through your nose and out through
[34:46] your mouth, nothing can go wrong. So
[34:48] breathe in and out. Deep in and out.
[34:55] Breathe in your belly, chest, head and
[34:57] out. Belly, your chest, your head and
[35:00] out. Belly, chest, head and out.
[35:04] You’ve already been going for a
[35:06] minute. We’re adding another two. So
[35:07] come on. In, in, in and out. In, in, in
[35:13] and out. And out. Just see if you can
[35:21] breathe in a little deeper each time.
[35:22] You are probably feeling lightheaded
[35:24] now. If it really doesn't feel right,
[35:26] you can of course always stop or take
[35:28] over your own pace. That is all fine.
[35:31] Maybe you already feel that you
[35:32] actually want to relax. Just push
[35:34] through that for a little while longer.
[35:35] So keep breathing. Even if it feels
[35:37] like," I would prefer to just fall
[35:39] completely asleep right now. "Come on.
[35:44] Just one more minute right away and
[35:46] then we'll start counting down. Come on
[35:48] . In, in, and out. In, in, and out.
[35:53] Going really well. Come on. Really
[35:55] doing great. You're going to have five
[35:57] more of these for the whole Sunday.
[36:00] Another day. Come on. In, in, and out.
[36:05] In, in, and out. A little bit deeper
[36:09] each time. So 1%deeper every time if
[36:11] you manage it. Small steps. No need for
[36:14] big leaps. In, in, in, and release.
[36:18] Breathe all the way to your brain. Make
[36:20] space everywhere and let go. Come on.
[36:23] And release. Start counting down almost
[36:27] to the short break. Alright, we're
[36:36] going to wind down. So we'll do another
[36:38] 10. Eight, so six, so five, so really
[36:53] almost four. Come on, three. A little
[36:58] bit deeper each time. 2 1. Breathe out.
[37:05] Breathe in as deeply as possible. Then
[37:08] breathe out one more time, then in one
[37:10] more time and hold it first. So you
[37:14] don't breathe out anymore. Hold it.
[37:17] Maybe it feels nice to tense your body
[37:19] as if you really need to pee, but you
[37:21] have to hold it all in. Even further
[37:23] than that. Hold, hold, hold, hold, hold
[37:26] . And breathe out. And lie still for
[37:39] just a moment. I feel your sensations,
[37:45] tingles. Do you want to start analyzing
[37:51] your mind? Try to stay with the feeling
[37:56] . So what is flowing through you right
[37:58] now? Alri, to avoid thinking about it
[38:05] too long, we'll go straight on to that
[38:07] second round. And that is also the very
[38:10] last one before we enter the yoga nida.
[38:13] Timer on start again and we begin
[38:15] quietly. So you breathe into your belly
[38:17] , into your chest, towards your head,
[38:19] and completely empty and empty. So you
[38:25] can keep your eyes closed and focus
[38:27] solely on that breath. So in, in and
[38:31] out. In in and out. And a little deeper
[38:36] each time, okay? So then the last round
[38:38] . See if you can bring yourself to that
[38:41] 100%. Your 100%. That is different from
[38:44] anyone else's. That is okay. In, in, in
[38:48] and out. And maybe you only reach your
[38:50] chest. That is totally okay. Come on.
[38:52] You are already doing this. How cool
[38:54] that you are just lying here doing this
[38:56] on Sunday morning. Come on. In, in and
[38:59] out. Come on. You might even make a
[39:05] sound on your exhale. Everything out.
[39:10] All the from this week. Maybe even
[39:12] much longer. Come on. Soon it will be
[39:15] time for softness. Now it is time to go
[39:17] all out. Come in, in, and maybe you are
[39:24] completely overwhelmed by the emotions.
[39:26] Give in to that then, or just keep
[39:28] breathing. Come on. So as if you can
[39:35] breathe in further than your head. So
[39:37] from your belly, chest, head out. Belly
[39:41] , chest, head and out. Come on. We are
[39:46] already past the halfway point. This is
[39:48] a piece of cake. Come on, just keep
[39:50] going. Lightheaded. Tingling. It will
[39:56] probably all get worse. But try to
[39:58] breathe through it. Try to relax into
[40:01] it, knowing that it is part of the
[40:03] process, but that you always have a
[40:05] limit below which you are allowed to
[40:06] stay. Step out of your comfort zone.
[40:13] That is where happiness is ultimately
[40:15] to be found. Where the solutions lie
[40:18] that you might not have found yet. Come
[40:20] on. In, in, and out. In, in, out. Just
[40:31] a little while longer and then we’ll
[40:32] start counting down. So come on. Can
[40:34] you go a little deeper? Can you go a
[40:36] little further? Ah. Oh, this is going
[40:38] to give you so much relief. Soon.
[40:39] That’s what you do it all for.
[40:41] Alright. 109 left. 8. Last one. Six. 5.
[40:56] Four left. Come on. 3. 2 last ones. One
[41:06] . And then we’ll go very deep again.
[41:11] Completely empty. And then go in at
[41:14] your very, very, very deepest depth.
[41:17] And clench everything tight at the
[41:19] bottom of your body again, as if you
[41:20] really need to go to the toilet, but
[41:22] you really have to hold it in, because
[41:23] you really can't yet. And focus. And
[41:27] don't think too much. I can't do this.
[41:30] It’s taking too long. Stay in your
[41:33] body. We can do so much more there than
[41:37] we think. And breathe all the way out.
[41:54] Very well done. Gently return to that
[41:58] relaxed lying position if you weren't
[42:00] already. And then we will move on to
[42:08] the Yogaidra meditation. We are just
[42:11] going straight through. Gently, though,
[42:14] to music. Just see if you can still
[42:21] stay in your body. Feel your feet. Feel
[42:33] your hands everywhere—those
[42:41] sensations, that oxygen, all those
[42:43] tingles that you might be feeling
[42:45] inside your body right now. And focus
[42:52] on that. Blend your focus into your
[43:00] breathing. Is it a bit deeper for you?
[43:08] Is it easier now to breathe in from
[43:10] your belly, and to take all the time
[43:15] you need to breathe out again? See if
[43:24] you can especially lengthen the
[43:25] exhalation. Very gently. It can be very
[43:41] nice to bring yourself, as it were,
[43:47] into your mind right now to a place
[43:51] that for you represents safety,
[43:53] relaxation in a beautiful summer spot
[44:00] somewhere in nature, a memory. And you
[44:09] may also stay where you are right now,
[44:11] at this moment. And what makes this
[44:23] place so magical is that there are no
[44:25] obligations here, no expectations, no
[44:30] goals, no demands, in which you are
[44:36] completely in the here and now. Just
[44:43] see if that allows you to exhale a
[44:45] little deeper again. You don't have to
[45:00] imagine an endless, wonderful summer
[45:02] vacation lying ahead of you, where you
[45:04] only have to train and do whatever
[45:06] brings you the most pleasure or
[45:07] relaxation. And in that place, you may
[45:20] make your breathing a little more
[45:21] conscious again. You may start counting
[45:27] down with your breath in the following
[45:29] way: Count 15. I breathe in. 15 breathe
[45:40] out. 14. I breathe in. 14. I breathe
[45:51] out. And count back calmly in that way,
[45:57] right into your head. Sink deeper and
[46:19] deeper into just the breath. Then
[46:44] gently let go of the count and continue
[46:46] breathing in a relaxed manner. And with
[46:52] every exhale, sink deeper and deeper
[46:57] into relaxation, into surrender, into
[47:02] the here and now. And if you were
[47:16] allowed to make one decision for
[47:18] yourself today, something that is
[47:20] decided and executed immediately, what
[47:21] would that be? The first thing that
[47:25] comes to mind is right. For example:" I
[47:29] am completely relaxed. I set my
[47:32] boundaries effortlessly. I am healthy
[47:36] and fit. What is your most important
[47:39] decision today? What comes to mind
[47:42] first? That is your intention for this
[47:52] session. So be sure to repeat that
[47:55] three times in your head and feel that
[47:57] it is already so. A peace within that
[48:11] by returning all your attention to your
[48:13] body. Because of your calm breathing.
[48:23] You move your attention fully back to
[48:25] your feet for a moment, but as if you
[48:32] are diving right into them. Sensations,
[48:37] tingling. Now gradually feel how every
[48:48] part of your body becomes very heavy.
[48:54] So you let go of control more and more.
[48:59] And gravity takes everything from you.
[49:03] The earth carries you completely. Your
[49:10] feet are very heavy. As heavy as lead.
[49:18] Your legs and your pelvis sink heavy as
[49:25] stone. Your belly, chest, and shoulders
[49:33] sink deeper, your arms and your hands
[49:43] as if they are almost buried under the
[49:45] sand. Your head stinking bare. Just let
[50:02] your whole body rest on the heavy side.
[50:10] Let the earth carry you. Everything
[50:12] loose. Don't have to do anything
[50:20] yourself anymore. Completely heavy. And
[50:48] then you notice that your body is
[50:50] actually slowly detaching itself from
[50:51] that gravity of the earth. Very light
[50:57] and empty. Your feet completely light
[51:06] and empty. Your legs and your pelvis
[51:14] letting them go completely. Your belly,
[51:20] chest, shoulders. As light as a feather
[51:26] , floating in the air. Arms and hands,
[51:36] and you hardly feel them anymore.
[51:42] Everything consists of energy. Your
[51:49] whole body feels light and empty now,
[51:55] as if it could float in the air. Or
[52:01] becoming one with all the little clouds
[52:03] in the sky. Completely free. Dissolving
[52:14] completely into this. Feeling that you
[52:20] only exist. Energy, love, dissolving
[52:34] your entire body. With that disappears
[52:46] the 'musts', the roles, the obligation,
[53:00] just energy. What if you only have to
[53:11] be? And that is more than enough. I
[53:59] always say, of course you can stay
[54:00] lying here forever. And maybe it also
[54:08] feels good to quietly feel your whole
[54:10] body again, your breathing. To start
[54:19] moving a little more quietly. Just
[54:25] stretching out completely on this
[54:27] Sunday morning. Maybe just lying
[54:35] slightly on your back. Taking your
[54:37] knees into your chest for a moment, eh.
[54:39] Focusing your chest in your hands. And
[54:47] then, uh yes, you can stay lying here,
[54:49] but you can also go again Come sit down
[54:51] comfortably if you, uh, if it feels
[54:53] right. And welcome back to earth. Yes,
[55:05] welcome back to earth. Yes. Oh oh. What
[55:11] a, what a, what a gift this is. It
[55:14] feels so good to be back, doesn't it?
[55:16] My goodness, my goodness, my goodness.
[55:18] Yes. And and well, fantastic what words
[55:22] you choose for that. And how you also
[55:25] use handy tricks like holding pee and
[55:27] stuff that I suddenly, uh, that I, uh,
[55:30] oh, uh, yes, that it, what, uh, yes,
[55:33] how do you say that? Making it visual.
[55:35] Practical. Yes, exactly. And uh,
[55:38] practical, that is the word exactly. I
[55:40] do believe in that.
[55:41] Yes, I know that. But that is really...
[55:43] And then like that at the end, really
[55:45] just for a moment, and I’ll be honest
[55:47] , there are increasingly often moments
[55:49] when I get to taste of that, well,
[55:51] I’ll just say, you are good enough.
[55:53] Yes.
[55:53] Ooh, it, or at least it, is good as it
[55:56] is. Well, it’s kind of the same.
[55:58] It is good as it is. I think that is
[55:59] especially, uh, also when you just saw
[56:01] that lady with her legs in a cast.
[56:03] Yes.
[56:04] Uh, we always want to have our heads
[56:06] somewhere else. And whether you have
[56:08] your legs in a cast or are just walking
[56:10] around completely, uh, fit.
[56:11] Yes,
[56:13] that is really humanity's great
[56:15] challenge to, uh, just be happy here
[56:17] right now. Then then yes, then the
[56:20] earth will be saved quickly too. But
[56:21] anyway, we can work on that.
[56:23] Nice. Yes. Uh, we are really going to,
[56:26] uh, wrap up quickly, because we are
[56:28] almost at an hour already, but I, but I
[56:30] do like it when people share a bit more
[56:32] . Super nice, thank you, says Emmy. How
[56:34] nice, thank you all, says Marij.
[56:36] Always so much resistance before the
[56:37] breathing session, but afterwards it
[56:38] feels so good and powerful. Yes, I
[56:40] thought that was beautiful too, you
[56:41] just pushed a little bit anyway and
[56:42] that then
[56:43] maybe for the people who our app, uh,
[56:44] that it was again like, oh yes, because
[56:45] this was of course a very short one,
[56:47] like, sometimes we just have to taste
[56:48] that again. It is very recognizable, of
[56:50] course.
[56:50] Yes, thanks for the session. Finally a
[56:52] truly relaxed feeling again. Thank you
[56:54] sweetheart. Very nice,
[56:56] grateful. Little suns, little
[56:58] emotion icons with hands together and
[57:01] stars and thumbs up and hearts.
[57:03] How lovely, really. Yes. Well, this was
[57:08] indeed a bit but and thank you all for
[57:10] staying uh despite the delay.
[57:12] Yes, apologies for that indeed, but
[57:14] because of that I needed this session
[57:16] more than ever, I have to say. So that
[57:18] was great.
[57:20] Um and well, thank you so much Eliane
[57:22] for this, namely uh the open house,
[57:24] because that is really great.
[57:27] Exactly. Sign up everyone.
[57:29] Yes, sign up everyone via the link. Uh
[57:31] it’s free, it’s just leaving your
[57:33] email address and then uh well,
[57:35] you’re going to experience this week
[57:37] how it is
[57:39] you get an invitation if tomorrow if
[57:40] tomorrow everything still exists, if we
[57:42] haven’t moved to another dimension,
[57:44] then uh then you get an invitation with
[57:46] a definitive date.
[57:47] Yes. Yes. And that is well, that is uh
[57:50] uh yes, believe me, this was perhaps
[57:52] already I can see from many reactions
[57:54] very intense. Um
[57:55] exactly.
[57:56] Oh, it was 111.
[57:57] But you can totally be there.
[57:59] Yes. Yes. Yes. 111. Nice.
[58:02] But Good, right? Thanks. Well, off I go
[58:05] then, uh,
[58:05] and uh, I'll see you all somewhere next
[58:07] week, uh, at the open house, so I'll
[58:09] just let you know how that all goes.
[58:11] Yeah.
[58:12] And enjoy your Sunday, and you with
[58:14] your little one.
[58:15] You too. It'll work out.
[58:16] Thanks. Bye. Have a
[58:18] nice day. Hi.
[58:20] Thanks. Bye.