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[5:12] >> Well, hi there. Jonathan Foust here. I
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[6:06] All right.
[6:07] So, here's a topic I think
[6:10] maybe you can relate.
[6:12] The whole idea that
[6:16] you're not qualified to show up in life.
[6:19] The impostor syndrome.
[6:21] It affects all of us in different ways.
[6:23] Just a sense of not being enough, being
[6:26] kind of limited by that negativity bias,
[6:28] the self-talk that holds you back. How
[6:30] do you transform it?
[6:33] There's a somewhat
[6:36] simple but not easy solution.
[6:38] And this talk dives into that. I found
[6:41] it to be super super helpful in my life,
[6:43] and I hope you might find it helpful,
[6:44] too. So,
[6:45] the antidote to impostor syndrome. I
[6:48] hope you enjoy the following talk.
[6:53] I must have been around 8 or 9 years old
[6:56] when when the Peace Corps was founded.
[6:59] And in my Quaker meeting where I was
[7:01] raised,
[7:04] one of the early volunteers came to our
[7:07] Quaker meeting. He was a member of our
[7:08] meeting, and he gave a presentation
[7:10] about the service he did and I believe
[7:13] it was in East Africa.
[7:16] There was something um about his not
[7:19] only
[7:20] >> [cough and clears throat]
[7:21] >> Excuse me. His presentation,
[7:24] uh but how he was received by uh by the
[7:27] Quaker meeting. It was kind of the
[7:28] equivalent of someone coming back from
[7:30] the war, you know. Looked really cool,
[7:33] looked really noble what he was doing.
[7:35] Also looked like it was uh had a lot of
[7:38] growth and uh
[7:40] and I I thought to myself, I'm going to
[7:42] do that.
[7:44] Not only from from the 9-year-old sense
[7:47] of like being the returning hero,
[7:51] but also the fact that it was
[7:54] doing good in the world.
[7:57] So, I kind of filed that away and when I
[7:59] was in college,
[8:01] um while I was working on my degree, I
[8:04] was also co-managing about a thousand
[8:07] acre farm and managing the livestock
[8:11] operation. It was going to be about 500
[8:13] hogs.
[8:15] Can't believe now that I was a
[8:18] livestock manager, but
[8:20] at one point I noticed there was a Peace
[8:22] Corps recruiter at the college and I
[8:24] thought, well, let me check in and I
[8:26] said, uh listen, I'm going to have my
[8:28] master's in a year.
[8:30] Uh what kind of possibilities might
[8:32] there be for me next year?
[8:34] And the guy said, you know, we're pretty
[8:36] full up on teachers.
[8:38] Is there anything else that you've done?
[8:41] I said, well, I
[8:42] you know, I'm managing this 500 hog
[8:46] operation. He said, oh my gosh. Well,
[8:49] wow, we could really use that.
[8:51] Um I thought, well, that's interesting.
[8:53] So, kind of filed that away and I after
[8:56] I got my degree, I taught for a a year
[8:58] in New Mexico in a high school.
[9:01] And um
[9:03] when there was a downsizing and it was
[9:05] clear that last hired, first fired, um I
[9:09] went back and I went to the uh
[9:11] recruitment office in Albuquerque.
[9:14] And I went and I said, hey, um I have
[9:16] this experience as a livestock manager
[9:18] and
[9:19] the guy said, well,
[9:21] um we're kind of full up on that. Have
[9:23] you done anything else? I said, well, I
[9:25] have my master's and you know, degree in
[9:27] English and he goes, oh, wow, that's
[9:29] what we need.
[9:30] And he said, could you teach phonetics?
[9:33] Um I said,
[9:35] sure.
[9:38] So, I got a position at the
[9:42] the University of Niamey in Niamey,
[9:44] Niger and at the Ecole des Lettres
[9:46] uh teaching phonetics.
[9:49] Now, when I said I could teach
[9:51] phonetics,
[9:53] I was being rather hopeful uh that I
[9:55] could that I could teach phonetics.
[9:57] I took a course in the history of
[9:59] English language and I learned how to
[10:01] spell my name in the phonetic alphabet,
[10:03] but that was pretty much it.
[10:06] And when I got in country, um it was
[10:09] revealed to me that not only would I be
[10:11] teaching uh phonetics in the university,
[10:14] I would be teaching graduate level
[10:16] phonetics
[10:17] with much older students. These are
[10:19] students um or teachers who've been
[10:22] teaching
[10:23] uh for years and every couple years they
[10:25] get to come back and do more study. So,
[10:28] many of my students were going to be
[10:29] much older than me. Um
[10:32] most of them spoke at least five
[10:34] languages and had a a very sophisticated
[10:37] uh approach to language.
[10:41] I was
[10:43] stepping into something called imposter
[10:45] syndrome. And that is the topic of of
[10:48] this exploration. What is the antidote
[10:51] to imposter syndrome?
[10:54] I was in over my head.
[10:57] In one of the classes, one of the
[10:59] students said, "Mr. Faust, could you
[11:02] explain the difference between a voiced
[11:04] and unvoiced interdental fricative?"
[11:08] To which I said, "That is an excellent
[11:10] question,
[11:12] but I don't want to get ahead of where
[11:13] we are in the class.
[11:15] So, uh
[11:16] we will cover that in due time."
[11:19] I would go back to my office. I would
[11:20] look up what the heck an unvoiced
[11:22] interdental fricative was
[11:24] >> [laughter]
[11:24] >> and then be able to present it.
[11:29] By the way, a voiced and unvoiced
[11:31] interdental fricative is the difference
[11:33] between
[11:34] the
[11:35] and thing.
[11:37] So, your your tongue interdental and the
[11:40] fricative part.
[11:43] I shared this story before and someone
[11:46] commented, um what a stunning story of
[11:49] white male privilege.
[11:51] To which I have to say,
[11:53] absolutely.
[11:54] It was just assumed I could do it.
[11:57] And I said yes, and there I was thrust
[12:00] in over my head. But nonetheless, there
[12:02] I was totally over my head.
[12:05] And I have to say, I really learned
[12:09] about phonetics and how to teach
[12:10] phonetics.
[12:11] Uh because I had to.
[12:14] But what I would like to talk about
[12:17] is
[12:19] when it comes to this feeling of
[12:21] imposter syndrome, that is to say where
[12:23] you are
[12:25] where you don't feel qualified
[12:28] for whatever position you're in,
[12:30] whatever wherever you are.
[12:32] First, I'd like to talk about the power
[12:34] of being onto yourself. Like once you're
[12:36] aware of it, things begin to shift.
[12:40] Second thing I'd like to talk about is
[12:42] what it means to think outside the box
[12:44] of your of your fear and your doubt.
[12:48] The third part of that is that shift
[12:51] from
[12:52] being lost in your own personal
[12:54] hallucination to getting on board with
[12:56] reality.
[12:58] And fourth,
[12:59] I'd like to talk about what it means to
[13:01] live from authenticity.
[13:06] In ancient Greek plays,
[13:09] when they put on a play, they wore
[13:11] masks.
[13:13] And the masks were made of linen or or
[13:15] sometimes in terracotta. They kind of
[13:17] had exaggerated expressions. Uh some
[13:20] masks were like half the face, some were
[13:22] three-quarters, some were a helmet, some
[13:24] were full face.
[13:26] But it allowed the actors to play
[13:28] multiple characters.
[13:30] So they would put on the mask and become
[13:32] that persona.
[13:35] And I find that to be just a really
[13:37] wonderful metaphor.
[13:39] Because we wear different masks all the
[13:41] time.
[13:43] You're a son or a daughter, a a father
[13:45] or a mother, a a sibling, a provider, a
[13:48] creator, a spiritual warrior.
[13:52] And what happens is
[13:55] with all the different masks that you
[13:57] wear,
[13:59] sometimes we get attached to the mask
[14:02] and we forget the persona. We we we we
[14:06] we forget who we are behind the persona,
[14:08] I mean to say.
[14:11] So, can you think of a time when you
[14:13] were attached to what you were
[14:15] presenting to the world, to your mask,
[14:17] and and maybe extended out a little bit
[14:20] further over your skis than it was
[14:22] comfortable?
[14:26] And what I find is with imposter
[14:28] syndrome, we tend to think of like
[14:30] imposter syndrome is bad, but I really
[14:33] feel there's this balance of of reaching
[14:36] and challenging ourselves,
[14:38] and then overreaching and the insecurity
[14:40] that comes with that.
[14:44] We take on some mask, for in this case I
[14:47] was taking on the mask of
[14:49] being a phonetics professor,
[14:52] but I wasn't so sure I was up for it.
[14:59] Imposter syndrome is quite common.
[15:02] And as um
[15:04] the teacher Werner Erhard said, "5
[15:06] billion people thinking they're unique
[15:10] is not unique."
[15:12] One of the first antidotes to posture
[15:15] imposter syndrome is to recognize it.
[15:18] It is such a common phenomena
[15:21] where we doubt our accomplishments
[15:24] and we fear that we're going to be
[15:26] exposed as a fraud.
[15:29] As soon as we begin to acknowledge our
[15:31] feelings of self-doubt
[15:34] and as soon as we begin to understand
[15:35] that a lot of successful people
[15:37] experience
[15:39] imposter syndrome either at some point
[15:40] in their lives or even currently
[15:43] something begins to shift.
[15:45] Because mindfulness is all about
[15:48] self-awareness
[15:50] and recognizing patterns.
[15:54] The classic patterns we talk about are
[15:56] referred to as the the five hindrances
[15:59] or the five obscurations.
[16:03] That is when your mind is filled with
[16:04] aversion.
[16:06] When you are caught in
[16:08] anger, judgment, blame, ill will
[16:11] it's impossible to be fully present in
[16:14] the moment.
[16:16] The second is craving. It's the wanting
[16:18] mind.
[16:19] When you are fantasizing, planning
[16:24] again, impossible to be present.
[16:27] The third has to do with the worried
[16:29] mind, the restless mind, the
[16:31] hyper-vigilant mind. It just can't
[16:32] settle because it's scanning
[16:34] for danger, scanning for what's next.
[16:39] The fourth is sloth and torpor. It's the
[16:41] the numbing out. It's the kind of the
[16:42] heaviness.
[16:44] It's the the sort of spiraling down into
[16:47] depression quality of mind.
[16:51] So, aversion, craving, restlessness
[16:54] that's almost too much energy and the
[16:56] other sloth and torpor not enough energy
[16:59] leave us with the fifth
[17:02] of these mind states, which is doubt.
[17:07] So, imposter syndrome is not so unique.
[17:11] But if we don't look closely at how we
[17:14] live or how we don't live
[17:17] then we're just
[17:19] as Thoreau said, doomed to live lives of
[17:22] quiet desperation.
[17:25] Yeah, you were trapped inside the box of
[17:28] of the mind.
[17:32] And the question becomes, how do you get
[17:34] outside the box?
[17:36] How do you move from this sense of the
[17:39] attached to the to the false persona,
[17:41] attached to the mask
[17:43] to a sense of of real authenticity?
[17:51] Whenever you take on anything new, we're
[17:53] just plagued with doubt.
[17:56] Over time, we kind of mature into it.
[17:58] I'd like to talk a little bit about
[18:00] that.
[18:01] An example of a of a young umpire and an
[18:04] old umpire in baseball.
[18:08] The young umpire is asked, "Well, tell
[18:10] me what a strike is."
[18:13] And the young umpire says, "Well, it's
[18:15] when the ball is kind of between the
[18:16] knees and the chest and from the from
[18:19] the shoulders from one shoulder to
[18:21] another."
[18:23] The old umpire, when he's asked
[18:27] "What's a strike?" he says,
[18:30] "It's a strike
[18:31] when I say it's a strike."
[18:34] You can sense the difference there.
[18:36] One needs to justify themselves and one
[18:39] has just arrived.
[18:46] When you find yourself with any sense of
[18:49] imposter syndrome, or we can even
[18:51] translate this into into
[18:54] caught in the ignorance of doubt,
[18:57] it's very helpful to turn and
[18:59] investigate
[19:01] and to see the patterns.
[19:05] If you find yourself at times caught in
[19:08] perfectionism,
[19:10] a feeling like what you're doing just
[19:12] isn't enough and a little bit more is
[19:14] going to put it over the top.
[19:16] That may be a sign.
[19:19] A sense of the mind catastrophizing.
[19:21] Once they find out who I am, it's all
[19:23] over.
[19:25] Setting unrealistic standards, comparing
[19:28] yourself to someone who's been around
[19:30] for a long time.
[19:33] If you find your mind focusing on what's
[19:35] not working
[19:36] and discounting positive feedback,
[19:40] those are signs of
[19:43] being caught
[19:44] in paralyzing doubt.
[19:48] If you find yourself procrastinating
[19:50] because you're not wanting to take
[19:52] risks,
[19:53] you're not wanting to be exposed,
[19:56] that's a pretty good sign.
[20:00] We live most of our lives
[20:04] conforming,
[20:06] driven by the need to fit in.
[20:10] And at some point in our lives,
[20:13] a question begins to emerge.
[20:15] And that question is something like
[20:17] this.
[20:19] Whose life am I living anyway?
[20:23] Am I just living the programming set in
[20:26] place by my parents and by my culture?
[20:31] How much am I driven by by fear?
[20:34] The fear of failure,
[20:36] the fear of loss,
[20:38] the fear of shame.
[20:41] How much of my life is driven by the
[20:43] need to be
[20:46] successful, by the need to win, by the
[20:48] need for praise?
[20:52] Those questions are really powerful
[20:54] because what they start to do is they
[20:56] begin to deconstruct
[20:58] all of that conditioning.
[21:01] And they begin to point the way,
[21:04] and only point the way cuz there's a lot
[21:06] of work to do there.
[21:08] To learn what it means to be authentic,
[21:11] what it means to be true to yourself.
[21:16] The poet Dana Falls offers these words
[21:20] in this poem called Choosing Life.
[21:25] The downward spiral starts.
[21:29] Self-doubt and darkness lie for center
[21:31] stage, while I, the passive drowning
[21:34] one,
[21:37] waiting for my demise.
[21:40] Just as I sink beneath the waves, my
[21:42] despair
[21:43] of despair my a thought arises. Why go
[21:46] there?
[21:48] I've made this trip a thousand times,
[21:50] and it leads nowhere.
[21:54] I am choosing life.
[21:58] And the darkness lifts just a little.
[22:01] I'm choosing life.
[22:04] The downward spiral slows, then stops.
[22:09] I'm lifted up and buoyant now, not
[22:12] shrinking from the truth.
[22:14] Okay, I'm not perfect.
[22:17] And reality
[22:18] certainly doesn't look like what I
[22:20] choose.
[22:22] And maybe that's the only point.
[22:25] To ride the spirals down and up,
[22:28] and make the choice for life.
[22:35] Being caught in that false persona,
[22:39] and the fear of being exposed, though
[22:41] the fear of not enough is a it's a hell
[22:43] realm, it's a bardo.
[22:47] What is it that triggers that that the
[22:49] feelings of being an impostor?
[22:54] It has a lot to do with our
[22:55] conditioning.
[22:57] The beliefs that we we just absorb.
[23:00] I've often asked this question.
[23:04] Just complete the following phrase.
[23:06] One thing my parents always said about
[23:08] money was
[23:13] What did your parents always say about
[23:15] money?
[23:20] And how much
[23:23] does what they said about money
[23:26] affect your relationship to money?
[23:32] How many beliefs have you taken on for
[23:34] reality?
[23:37] How many beliefs are this lens that
[23:40] you're you're actually looking through?
[23:45] And
[23:47] it opens up this question.
[23:51] With all of the conditioning that forms
[23:54] your point of view,
[23:58] who are you in the absence of that
[24:00] conditioning?
[24:06] So part of
[24:09] waking up inside the sense of
[24:12] being an impostor and plagued with doubt
[24:16] is to explore how to reframe it.
[24:19] How to kind of change the frame.
[24:23] It's helpful to kind of challenge the
[24:25] negative self-talk and really look at it
[24:27] closely.
[24:30] And it's helpful to focus on your
[24:31] strengths,
[24:33] the value you bring,
[24:35] and remember that making mistakes is
[24:37] part of growing.
[24:40] And as I was
[24:43] trying to justify my life as a
[24:46] 22-year-old professor of phonetics,
[24:52] I would have to remind myself
[24:54] that I can do this.
[24:56] One day at a time.
[24:58] I can do this.
[25:01] I also remembered that how much I loved
[25:04] learning.
[25:05] How much I loved mastering new things
[25:07] and
[25:08] and actually embracing how what a fast
[25:11] track of learning this was.
[25:14] Yes, I was scrambling and lost my first
[25:17] year, but I
[25:19] learned a lot.
[25:22] I also
[25:24] realized how much I loved to learn.
[25:26] At that time when I was living in Niger,
[25:28] I was I was learning French.
[25:30] I was learning how to
[25:32] to take this information about phonetics
[25:35] and and really explore how I could
[25:38] communicate the really important stuff.
[25:41] The person before me, I had about 3 days
[25:44] with her before I took over
[25:47] was way academic.
[25:49] She was really focused on kind of the
[25:51] abstract qualities of
[25:53] phonetics and linguistics and as I tuned
[25:56] into what the teachers really needed
[26:00] what they really needed was to really
[26:02] learn correct pronunciation.
[26:04] Learn how to master the phonetic
[26:06] alphabet so that they could help their
[26:08] students in teaching them English.
[26:13] I also drew on my desire for
[26:17] making the class alive and fun.
[26:21] So, making it pragmatic
[26:23] also
[26:24] making it as much fun as possible. I was
[26:26] I would often talk about some of the
[26:28] different accents.
[26:30] Cuz there's received pronunciation, you
[26:32] know, from from Great Britain and
[26:34] Standard American, but then all the
[26:35] other accents and kind of the classic
[26:38] one is the phrase, "I was walking down
[26:40] 33rd and 3rd
[26:42] I saw a dirty bird."
[26:44] So, with phonetic with phonetic
[26:47] transcription
[26:48] with received pronunciation, "I was
[26:50] walking down 33rd and 3rd and I saw a
[26:53] dirty bird.
[26:55] Standard American, I was walking down
[26:57] 33rd and 3rd, and I saw a dirty bird.
[27:00] Ghanaian,
[27:01] as I was walking down 33rd and 3rd, and
[27:04] I saw a dirty bird.
[27:07] And then of course I had to throw in the
[27:08] Bronx, Brooklyn.
[27:11] I was walking down 20 20 and 20, and I
[27:13] saw a dirty bird.
[27:15] I remember when I shared that with them,
[27:16] just the the groans and the
[27:19] the the laughter and the sense of utter
[27:21] utter
[27:22] utter overwhelm.
[27:26] So, by focusing on what I could do,
[27:30] focusing on my love of learning,
[27:33] my my focus on making it relevant and
[27:35] being of service, it helped me move
[27:37] through my own doubt.
[27:41] And it really brings to mind the kind of
[27:43] the classic Buddhist psychology approach
[27:47] to
[27:48] to the antidote to doubt.
[27:52] When you are in doubt,
[27:54] you question everything.
[27:57] The antidote to doubt
[28:00] is faith.
[28:03] Now, when I hear the word faith, I kind
[28:05] of recoil because I think of faith as
[28:10] just believing something's true. And and
[28:12] there is a spectrum of faith.
[28:15] One element of faith is
[28:18] kind of the innocent faith, the the
[28:21] magical thinking faith.
[28:23] If I think happy thoughts, everything
[28:25] will be fine.
[28:28] That may be helpful for some people.
[28:31] Just kind of blind faith.
[28:34] But the kind of faith that we're looking
[28:35] at here is what we could call mature
[28:37] faith.
[28:39] Or also known as verified faith.
[28:44] So, what this includes is looking
[28:46] closely at reality, investigation
[28:50] into the nature of reality itself.
[28:54] So, part of it is around really looking
[28:56] closely, what actually is true?
[28:59] What do I know to be true?
[29:01] Sometimes this can reveal
[29:04] beliefs that are simply false.
[29:08] The belief that I I can't do this. That
[29:11] I'm not enough.
[29:13] I'm not lovable. I'm not good enough.
[29:16] Take a good hard look at those beliefs.
[29:19] Something may be on the other side that
[29:21] opens up all kinds of new possibilities.
[29:26] Faith has to do with kind of faith in
[29:28] the path.
[29:30] Whatever your path may be.
[29:32] And if your path is about becoming more
[29:34] awake,
[29:36] cultivating more compassion, being of
[29:38] service,
[29:40] it helps to reframe that sense of who
[29:43] you are as a growing being.
[29:47] And faith is also an exploration of
[29:49] faith in your intent.
[29:51] The desire to learn, the desire to grow,
[29:54] the desire to be of service.
[29:58] This re-framing
[30:01] is so powerful.
[30:05] And what I find
[30:09] All right.
[30:11] These questions.
[30:14] Now, when I'm stuck or when I'm caught,
[30:17] the first question,
[30:20] how can this serve awakening?
[30:26] What am I learning?
[30:29] What is the opportunity here?
[30:36] What are the advantages of having a
[30:38] reality-based practice?
[30:41] Is it really opens us opens us up to
[30:43] being truthful.
[30:46] Mark Twain said that one great thing
[30:48] about telling the truth is you never
[30:50] have to remember what you said.
[30:53] I love that.
[30:56] Usually when we are uncomfortable, we
[30:58] just bear the discomfort.
[31:02] And
[31:03] unless we turn toward it and really look
[31:06] closely,
[31:09] it just gets more and more chronic.
[31:13] I had an experience many, many years
[31:15] ago.
[31:16] I've shared this before.
[31:19] Where I was in a lot of group meetings.
[31:20] I was like the junior, junior person in
[31:22] the meetings, and I was sitting on my
[31:24] hands a lot. And not sharing, feeling
[31:27] agitation, feeling frustration, feeling
[31:29] like I had something to say, but
[31:31] but being conscious of my age and kind
[31:33] of holding back.
[31:36] Finally,
[31:39] I would say it became unbearable.
[31:44] And as I was meditating on that feeling
[31:47] of of discomfort,
[31:50] I could really look closely at kind of
[31:52] what you'd call the karma or the outcome
[31:54] of it. If I do nothing, what's this
[31:56] going to be like?
[31:57] And
[31:59] extremely unpleasant.
[32:02] And then a thought popped into my head.
[32:07] And the thought was,
[32:09] "I'm just going to be me until I'm
[32:11] fired."
[32:13] Something kind of shifted for me, and I
[32:15] started speaking up. And rather than
[32:18] being fired,
[32:20] there was kind of a a welcome, a welcome
[32:22] back.
[32:25] But it's only that only came when I
[32:27] really focused on
[32:31] on the the intense discomfort.
[32:37] So, recognizing the state,
[32:41] recognizing what's between you and
[32:43] feeling free, is so integral. The
[32:45] courage to turn toward
[32:49] that paralyzing feeling inside
[32:52] can open up new possibilities.
[32:58] But, it's important to remember that
[33:01] imposter syndrome, it has been said by
[33:03] some, is not really a syndrome.
[33:06] It's actually just being human.
[33:09] There's no one that doesn't experience
[33:12] that sense of
[33:14] of the false, presenting a false
[33:16] persona.
[33:19] I'm not sure that's totally true.
[33:22] Now that I think of that,
[33:24] um there is a guy on um
[33:26] the board of directors, um
[33:29] when I was uh
[33:30] head of an organization, and uh I said
[33:33] to the the chair of the board, I said,
[33:34] "Wow, that that guy is so confident."
[33:39] And my friend, uh who'd been on a lot of
[33:41] boards, said, "Have you noticed how
[33:43] confident he is when he's right?"
[33:46] I said, "Absolutely."
[33:48] He said, "And have you noticed how he's
[33:49] equally confident when he's wrong?"
[33:53] I said, "Yeah, you know, that's true."
[33:55] So, maybe not everyone feels it, but I
[33:57] think most people feel that
[34:01] that insecurity.
[34:03] And the stagnation that comes through
[34:05] the paralysis that comes.
[34:09] Quite a few years ago, I was invited to
[34:11] do an audio program, a 6-hour audio
[34:13] program for Sounds True,
[34:15] on embodied centered inquiry.
[34:18] An incredible opportunity, and I
[34:19] immediately said, "Yes, I'd love to do
[34:21] it." And I
[34:22] found myself paralyzed.
[34:26] I found myself just stagnant. I I
[34:29] couldn't
[34:30] I couldn't get over some creative block.
[34:34] Finally, after a fair bit of discomfort
[34:38] and feeling the the time pressure began
[34:40] to build, I finally took a closer look
[34:43] at it.
[34:44] And I realized
[34:46] I had this fear.
[34:49] I was going to be presenting something
[34:51] to the world and all these great content
[34:53] experts,
[34:55] people with more initials after their
[34:57] name than me,
[34:58] were going to see everything and I would
[35:00] be exposed.
[35:03] And they could tear it down.
[35:05] And they could expose me for the
[35:07] superficial fraud that I really am.
[35:10] >> [snorts]
[35:12] >> Recognizing that fear
[35:16] was so helpful.
[35:19] Cuz as I just sat with it,
[35:22] this thought just sort of popped in that
[35:25] changed everything.
[35:27] And this is the thought.
[35:30] If this program helps one person,
[35:34] it's absolutely worth it.
[35:39] That tapped me into my sincere desire to
[35:44] offer something that would
[35:46] be of help.
[35:47] And I began to write the program for
[35:50] that one person for whom it would
[35:52] absolutely be worth it.
[35:56] So helpful.
[35:57] So helpful.
[36:01] When we can begin to recognize
[36:04] that we are not alone,
[36:08] particularly not alone with our our
[36:10] self-doubt,
[36:12] not alone in that sense of being caught
[36:15] in a persona and trying to live up to
[36:17] the mask,
[36:20] it begins to shift things.
[36:23] And if you think about it, if you just
[36:24] think of someone now who
[36:26] who has a lot of power,
[36:29] a lot of prestige.
[36:33] What if if not now, sometime in the in
[36:36] the past, they were overwhelmed with
[36:39] imposter syndrome?
[36:42] And it's true.
[36:44] When you look really closely at people
[36:46] who've got a lot of charisma, a lot of
[36:48] coalesced power, authority, and
[36:50] influence,
[36:53] many times
[36:55] they too worked with this sense of
[36:57] feeling an impostor,
[36:59] feeling like they were going to be
[37:00] exposed for the fraud that they really
[37:02] are.
[37:05] So, one of the greatest
[37:08] antidotes
[37:11] has to do with connecting with others.
[37:15] When you realize that you're not alone
[37:17] and you can begin to
[37:18] talk about it with trusted friends or
[37:20] with mentors or colleagues about it.
[37:25] You know, what you can't communicate
[37:26] controls you.
[37:28] And you may find as you talk with others
[37:31] about their perspective, get their
[37:33] reassurance, listen to the struggles
[37:36] that they're going through, it will make
[37:37] a big, big difference.
[37:43] One thing I really enjoy for for those
[37:46] who teach, kind of like I do, is to
[37:49] to kind of name [clears throat] the
[37:50] inflation-deflation
[37:52] process. It's one thing Tara and I talk
[37:54] about is we get some positive feedback
[37:56] and the
[37:58] the inflation is so wonderful, and then
[38:00] the doubts come in and absolute
[38:02] deflation.
[38:06] For me,
[38:07] and I think for many of us,
[38:09] one way to kind of move beyond
[38:12] the doubt
[38:15] is to think about the people you can
[38:16] help.
[38:20] That
[38:21] wh- however you are, whatever mask that
[38:24] you are
[38:27] behind, however you're serving,
[38:30] when you reflect on the contribution you
[38:33] might make,
[38:36] that can help you to contact the
[38:38] sincerity.
[38:40] And for me, it's the it's the why. Why
[38:43] are you doing what you're doing?
[38:46] A very, very helpful inquiry.
[38:51] The other thing to help you move beyond
[38:52] is to recognize that the the higher the
[38:55] risk, the higher the potential reward.
[38:59] And it's the willingness to take risks
[39:02] that opens up our our growth. It makes
[39:06] us feel more alive.
[39:10] So, one can say
[39:13] that we are in a constant process
[39:16] of moving into a greater sense of
[39:19] self-awareness and a
[39:20] a greater sense of authenticity.
[39:26] As someone said, "No one got enlightened
[39:28] by adding anything."
[39:31] It's only in the removal of our
[39:33] conditioning that we begin to see into
[39:35] our true nature.
[39:38] And I'm always reminded
[39:41] of
[39:42] the number one regret of the dying.
[39:46] This is observed by someone who sat with
[39:48] thousands of people at the end of their
[39:50] life. The number one regret of the
[39:51] dying, "I was not true to myself."
[39:57] And when we begin to
[40:00] address what it means to be true to
[40:03] ourselves,
[40:06] it opens up a deeper sense of
[40:08] authenticity.
[40:10] And it may mean that the
[40:13] the mask
[40:15] that you are behind, the role that
[40:16] you're playing, the the the uh
[40:20] the act that you have, it may be that no
[40:21] longer resonates for you, or it may be
[40:25] that you can inhabit it
[40:27] from a place of deep presence and a deep
[40:30] deep authenticity.
[40:35] One of my heroes is the author Malcolm
[40:37] Gladwell.
[40:38] He's written so many books that I've
[40:41] and and short pieces that have been so
[40:43] helpful, such an amazing writer and
[40:46] he talked about his about his father.
[40:51] And he said one of the things I
[40:52] frustrated about him thought his father
[40:54] was
[40:55] his father would always ask questions.
[40:58] And his father would often ask what he
[41:00] thought were really stupid questions.
[41:03] And later he began to
[41:05] deeply admire that trait in his father.
[41:07] His father was never afraid to say, "I
[41:10] don't understand. Could you explain that
[41:12] to me?"
[41:14] He was utterly guileless
[41:16] around owning up to what he didn't
[41:19] understand, to owning up what he didn't
[41:21] know.
[41:24] And I think this is really key
[41:28] to living a more authentic life.
[41:32] My teacher, back in my ashram days, was
[41:35] a incredibly charismatic guy.
[41:38] Said this.
[41:40] This I've always remembered this. He
[41:42] said, "People are attracted to me not
[41:44] for what I know,
[41:46] but for how comfortable I am with what I
[41:48] don't know."
[41:53] When I heard that, I thought,
[41:55] "Man,
[41:57] I want to embrace that.
[42:00] I want to be really comfortable with
[42:02] what I don't know."
[42:05] And this speaks to what's often referred
[42:08] to as beginner's mind,
[42:10] which was really articulated beautifully
[42:11] by by uh
[42:13] um
[42:14] Suzuki.
[42:16] The teacher Shunryu Suzuki. He said that
[42:18] in the expert's mind, there are very few
[42:20] possibilities.
[42:22] In the beginner's mind,
[42:24] there are infinite possibilities.
[42:28] So, this becomes a very refreshing way
[42:31] to practice, and we'll we'll close our
[42:34] this talk with a little meditation on
[42:36] beginner's mind.
[42:38] Could you imagine
[42:41] coming back again and again to this
[42:43] sense of
[42:45] beginner's mind?
[42:47] Not having to be an expert.
[42:50] To get comfortable with what you don't
[42:52] know.
[42:55] In my training as a Dharma teacher and
[42:58] helping to train other people as Dharma
[43:00] teachers,
[43:02] someone once asked this question to one
[43:04] of the senior senior
[43:06] Vipassanā teachers. They said, you know,
[43:07] people come to us with lots of really
[43:10] deep, complex questions and issues. And
[43:14] what do I do when I get a question that
[43:17] completely befuddles me?
[43:22] And the teacher's response was this.
[43:25] He said, you simply say this.
[43:29] I don't know the answer to that.
[43:32] But I can try to find out and we can
[43:34] talk more.
[43:37] I don't know the answer to that.
[43:40] What a relief.
[43:43] What a relief.
[43:47] So, if we think of living an authentic
[43:50] life
[43:54] as the antidote
[43:56] to imposter syndrome, it it it has a
[43:59] couple characteristics. One of them is
[44:01] to embrace continuous learning. To be a
[44:04] learning a learner, still learning
[44:06] life's lessons.
[44:09] To remember that expertise is developed
[44:11] over time.
[44:14] And that
[44:15] a growth mindset
[44:18] one that's focused on on the passion of
[44:20] learning
[44:24] is very very helpful tool.
[44:28] And to seek feedback.
[44:30] To continue continue to explore how
[44:33] how you can learn.
[44:35] How you can continue to grow.
[44:40] Here's a little statement
[44:42] about what it means to be a learner.
[44:47] This is from David Cooper.
[44:51] Most people think enlightenment as a
[44:53] kind of magical attainment. A state of
[44:56] being close to perfection.
[44:59] At this level one can perform amazing
[45:01] feats, see past and future lives, and
[45:04] tune into the inner workings of the
[45:06] universe.
[45:08] This may be possible for a number of
[45:09] special beings, but for most of us
[45:12] enlightenment is much more in line with
[45:13] what Suzuki describes.
[45:16] It means having a quality of
[45:17] beginningness.
[45:19] A fresh, simple, unsophisticated view of
[45:22] things.
[45:23] To have beginner's mind in how we
[45:25] approach things is a major teaching.
[45:28] In many ways the process of
[45:30] enlightenment is clearing away the
[45:32] thoughts, beliefs, and ideas that cloud
[45:34] our ability to see things as they really
[45:37] are in their pristine form.
[45:44] So imposter syndrome is real.
[45:48] Except for a couple sociopaths
[45:51] everyone
[45:53] feels like a fraud at times.
[45:57] When you recognize
[45:59] the possibility that you can
[46:02] just simply name it and investigate it
[46:04] that you're not alone.
[46:06] You can take refuge with others.
[46:10] You can begin to explore what's
[46:11] underneath it.
[46:14] You begin to recognize the fundamental
[46:16] seed of doubt.
[46:18] And to look really closely.
[46:21] What does it mean to have faith in your
[46:23] path? To have faith in yourself.
[46:27] To remember
[46:29] the why you're doing what you're doing.
[46:32] To think of the those that you can
[46:34] support, those that you can be of
[46:35] service to.
[46:38] To call on compassion.
[46:40] To remember why you're here.
[46:43] Why why this is
[46:46] enlivening for you.
[46:51] To remember
[46:52] how to be comfortable with what you
[46:54] don't know.
[46:58] Let's close our eyes. We'll take just a
[47:00] few a few minutes.
[47:04] You might just feel the breath right
[47:06] now. Just notice where you feel the
[47:07] breath.
[47:12] And for the next few rounds of breath,
[47:17] you might imagine
[47:20] that you're experiencing the breath for
[47:22] the first time.
[47:31] Can you sense the the innocence of
[47:34] discovery of what breath feels like?
[47:50] And can you sense
[47:54] what it might be like
[47:57] to be more comfortable what you don't
[48:00] know.
[48:04] To flame the coals of your passion for
[48:08] learning.
[48:09] For being awake.
[48:12] For being a contribution to others.
[48:30] And you might explore
[48:33] either if there is a time now
[48:36] when you feel that sense of being an
[48:38] impostor.
[48:40] Being exposed for for what you don't
[48:42] know.
[48:44] Or another time in the past.
[48:47] You might take a moment just to look
[48:48] through the lens
[48:50] of seeing it clearly.
[48:55] What it feels like inside when you are
[48:58] trapped and caught in doubt.
[49:03] The thoughts and beliefs that are
[49:05] generated from that state of being
[49:07] small.
[49:14] And you might just sense through the
[49:16] lens of compassion,
[49:19] kindness, and empathy.
[49:22] If you were to hold this in some kind of
[49:24] loving presence.
[49:26] How does it move? How does it shift? How
[49:28] does it change?
[49:31] What you feel others feel.
[49:41] And you can Can you sense behind all of
[49:44] this?
[49:46] This yearning to be awake.
[49:54] This desire
[49:57] to be a wholesome contributor.
[50:04] To live your life from a place of
[50:06] overflow.
[50:12] And can you sense
[50:14] as you embrace a sense of beginner's
[50:16] mind
[50:18] this field of infinite possibility.
[50:33] As you're ready, you can deepen your
[50:35] breath.
[50:37] If you like, you can open your eyes.
[50:42] I hope you found this helpful.
[50:47] Recognizing the patterns of this small
[50:50] self that keeps us trapped
[50:53] is so key.
[50:55] And the power of investigation to look
[50:57] really closely at the underpinnings, to
[51:00] look at what's true
[51:03] can allow you
[51:06] no matter where you are to feel more
[51:08] alive, more awake
[51:10] and more vibrant.
[51:13] Whatever masks you're wearing, I hope
[51:15] you enjoy them
[51:17] to the fullest. Thank you so much for
[51:19] your time and attention.
[51:52] >> Mhm.