Transcript
[0:43] Be seated, please.
[1:12] Okay.
[1:14] All right. Could you all be seated,
[1:16] please?
[1:23] >> [sighs]
[1:59] >> Mumukshu
[2:02] nam
[2:10] >> [clears throat]
[2:11] >> Excuse me.
[2:13] Sorry.
[2:15] Welcome back.
[2:17] We continue our study of Tattva Bodha.
[2:21] And we're getting this very
[2:22] uh
[2:23] excellent introduction to the teachings
[2:26] of
[2:29] the ancient rishis. Uh let me get to the
[2:32] right side here.
[2:34] Where are we continuing?
[2:37] Oh, here. That's where we want to begin.
[2:39] So, in the past classes we've talked
[2:41] extensively about Sadhana Chatushtayam,
[2:45] the four prerequisites or qualifications
[2:49] that you need to be prepared for the
[2:52] practice of Atma Vichara.
[2:56] Notice I didn't say to be prepared for
[2:59] the study of Vedanta.
[3:02] So, I've made that point too many times.
[3:05] And the the reason I do is because it's
[3:09] not an academic study. The teachings of
[3:12] Advaita Vedanta are meant to guide your
[3:16] practice of self-inquiry, which means if
[3:20] you're studying Vedanta
[3:22] and not practicing self-inquiry,
[3:25] you're wasting your time.
[3:28] That's it.
[3:30] But, self-inquiry doesn't mean some kind
[3:32] of special practice that you have to do
[3:36] at what? Brahma Muhurtam, 4:00 in the
[3:39] morning.
[3:41] It's not like that at all.
[3:43] Self-inquiry is largely what we're doing
[3:46] here today,
[3:48] which is
[3:50] turning our attentions within
[3:53] and asking the question, "Who am I
[3:56] really?"
[3:58] That's self-inquiry. That's all it is.
[4:00] Not complicated.
[4:02] Except the answer to that question takes
[4:05] a lot of pursuit. Very simple to make
[4:08] that question, who am I really? It's
[4:10] very simple to utter that question.
[4:13] But to pursue it is not necessarily
[4:18] simple. And that's what all of our
[4:20] teachings are about.
[4:22] So, we left off Actually, we saw this
[4:25] this part before. That concluded tataha,
[4:29] thereafter. Which means
[4:31] last line of what you're looking at.
[4:34] After gaining this fourfold
[4:37] >> [clears throat]
[4:37] >> qualification, then what?
[4:40] Tatva vivekasya adhikarinaha.
[4:44] Bhavanti.
[4:46] Bhavanti, you become adhikarinaha.
[4:51] You all become qualified. Tatva
[4:53] vivekasya.
[4:55] For this viveka, discernment
[5:00] into tatva, the truth. The truth of who
[5:05] you are, what your essential nature is.
[5:08] And that's what we began in the previous
[5:10] class.
[5:11] Where
[5:13] it's introduced with Let's just go back
[5:15] and see this part. Repeat after me.
[5:17] Tatva vivekaha
[5:21] kahaha tatva vivekaha kahaha kahaha What
[5:25] is tatva viveka? What What is this
[5:30] discernment
[5:31] into tatva? Remember that word tatva
[5:34] literally means thatness.
[5:38] And that thatness, of course, is not a
[5:41] good translation, so we say reality. So,
[5:43] an inquiry into reality. But what kind
[5:48] of reality? Atma satyam.
[5:52] Atma satyam.
[5:55] So, reality
[5:57] Mhm.
[5:58] This is a good place to jump in today
[6:01] cuz it shows how this is not an academic
[6:04] study.
[6:06] If you're studying what is reality
[6:11] in college,
[6:15] what what what classes would you sign up
[6:17] for?
[6:20] Right?
[6:21] What is reality is your question. So,
[6:24] you might sign up for
[6:26] Well, chemistry tells us what what we're
[6:28] all made of. Biology, I'll start with
[6:30] that. Well,
[6:32] biology, that's what my body is made of.
[6:35] But then,
[6:37] biology is based on chemistry.
[6:39] So, then sign up for a chemistry class.
[6:42] But then, chemistry is based on
[6:44] particles. Then sign up sign up for a
[6:46] physics class.
[6:50] Then you ask yourself, "But why do these
[6:51] particles even exist?"
[6:55] Sign up for a philosophy class.
[6:59] So, this would be an academic approach
[7:03] to the question of inquiry into reality.
[7:08] And notice how
[7:10] that's not where we begin.
[7:14] What's unique about the pursuit
[7:18] that we follow in Advaita Vedanta is we
[7:21] start our our inquiry into reality not
[7:26] out there.
[7:29] That's where bi- biology is out there.
[7:32] Chemistry is out there. Physics.
[7:34] Philosophy, even, is out there. Our
[7:38] inquiry begins atma,
[7:41] in here.
[7:44] So,
[7:45] this is
[7:46] just to understand why we need the big
[7:49] picture.
[7:51] Big picture is this. There is one
[7:55] fundamental reality
[7:58] because of which everything exists.
[8:01] That's the tattva,
[8:03] that one fundamental reality. But what
[8:07] makes the pursuit in Advaita Vedanta
[8:09] unique is this.
[8:11] That fundamental reality is indeed the
[8:14] reality because of which everything out
[8:17] there exists.
[8:19] But it is also the underlying reality
[8:22] because of which you exist. Both are
[8:25] true.
[8:27] One fundamental reality because of which
[8:29] the universe exists is the same
[8:32] universal reality because of which you
[8:36] exist.
[8:37] And what's unique is whereas academic
[8:41] world the academic world begins its
[8:44] inquiry looking outside.
[8:47] We begin our inquiry looking the
[8:50] opposite direction.
[8:52] Looking inside. Notice that we're
[8:55] seeking to answer the same question.
[8:58] What is that reality? What is that one
[9:00] fundamental reality? But instead of
[9:03] looking outside, we look
[9:06] inside. And this is radical in its
[9:11] approach both from a methodological
[9:14] standpoint and from an experiential
[9:16] standpoint. From the standpoint of of
[9:18] methodology, think think
[9:21] look at this. The moment you start
[9:24] looking outside,
[9:26] you get in trouble because we look with
[9:28] our eyeballs,
[9:31] ears,
[9:32] we look with our mind.
[9:36] But
[9:37] our eyes are limited.
[9:40] All of our senses are limited.
[9:43] Our minds are limited. So by looking
[9:46] outside, we immediately run up against
[9:51] the limitations
[9:54] of our minds and senses.
[9:57] On the other hand, when you look within,
[10:03] within means
[10:04] not not even using your mind.
[10:09] Something more fundamental than your
[10:11] mind is you, the one who possesses a
[10:16] mind.
[10:17] You, the one who knows what's happening
[10:21] in your mind.
[10:24] That you,
[10:26] the one who knows what's happening in
[10:28] your mind, we can pursue directly
[10:32] without worrying about the limitations
[10:35] of our eyeballs, without worrying about
[10:38] the limitations of science, without
[10:40] worrying about the limitations even
[10:42] about our minds. So, we go
[10:45] very direct pursuit. That's from the
[10:48] standpoint of methodology. From the
[10:50] standpoint of experience,
[10:53] just to finish the introduction and tie
[10:55] it into our last discussion,
[10:57] we said what really distinguishes this
[10:59] pursuit is that it's not merely a
[11:02] pursuit
[11:04] of knowledge of reality for its own
[11:08] sake,
[11:10] but rather which is full which is a
[11:12] philosophical approach.
[11:14] I want to know what is real
[11:17] is a very philosophical perspective.
[11:20] And that is absolutely not the
[11:23] perspective of Advaita Vedanta.
[11:26] Because our motivation
[11:29] for this whole inquiry is not to find
[11:33] out some kind of abstract fundamental
[11:35] reality. The whole motivation is based
[11:38] on
[11:39] I suffer.
[11:42] I want an end to the suffering.
[11:47] So, it's rooted in experience in general
[11:52] and rooted Let's be honest. It's rooted
[11:55] The Vedantic inquiry is rooted in your
[11:58] desire to be free from suffering.
[12:03] Freedom from suffering we call moksha.
[12:07] And that's where we begin our pursuit.
[12:09] Atmakaha.
[12:11] What is Atma? What is that fundamental
[12:16] reality because of which I exist
[12:21] as a conscious being who is subject to
[12:25] suffering. And what we saw last week, uh
[12:28] week before I think we missed a class.
[12:31] Uh what we saw before, Atma Satyam.
[12:35] And we gave a very careful definition of
[12:38] Satyam, if you remember. Satyam means
[12:41] real,
[12:42] true.
[12:43] And we gave a very precise definition of
[12:46] Satyam as Trikala Abaditam, that which
[12:50] is non-negatable
[12:53] in the past, present, and future,
[12:56] meaning that which is unchanging.
[13:00] And that's a key word. I want you to
[13:02] hold on to that word, unchanging.
[13:05] Avikara. In Sanskrit, unchanging is
[13:08] Avikara.
[13:10] And
[13:13] fun When we call it a fundamental
[13:15] reality, it should be unchanging. That's
[13:18] our definition of a fundamental reality,
[13:21] is an unchanging reality because of
[13:24] which everything else exists.
[13:26] Like clay
[13:28] is a unchanging reality because of which
[13:31] this pot exists. This pot can The form
[13:35] of this pot can change. If I drop it, it
[13:38] turns into shards. If we grind it, it
[13:41] turns into dust,
[13:43] but it remains clay. So, there's an
[13:45] unchanging element which is
[13:48] metaphorically
[13:50] fundamental reality,
[13:52] and that is clay. And then we have a
[13:55] changeable
[13:56] expression
[13:58] of that fundamental reality, which is
[14:01] this form called pot. Now,
[14:05] that's where we left off. Now we
[14:06] continue. So, Atma is Satyam,
[14:10] unchanging
[14:12] reality,
[14:14] fundamental reality. Again, the
[14:17] fundamental reality because of which
[14:19] everything exists
[14:22] and a fundamental reality because of
[14:24] which you exist as a conscious being are
[14:27] one and the same fundamental reality.
[14:32] So,
[14:32] we start off by turning our attention
[14:34] within, but then we still have to say,
[14:37] "Well, what is all this?"
[14:39] Atma satyam, the
[14:41] my reality is unchanging, but what about
[14:44] all this? This is where we begin today.
[14:47] Repeat after me. Tad anyat sarvam
[14:51] Tad anyat sarvam mithya iti mithya iti
[15:00] Tad anyat, everything other than that.
[15:05] Other than what? Atma.
[15:08] Atma which is satyam. Everything else is
[15:13] every- Sarvam, everything. Everything
[15:16] anyat sarvam, everything other than
[15:19] that, everything other than atma is
[15:22] called mithya
[15:25] iti. And [snorts] this is where we
[15:29] Huh, this is where most newcomers to
[15:32] Vedanta gets get off on the wrong foot.
[15:36] Having read too many books written by
[15:39] too many people who haven't had the
[15:42] opportunity to go very deeply into these
[15:45] teachings.
[15:46] And it happens that
[15:49] mithya gets mistranslated
[15:52] as
[15:53] false. Mithya gets mistranslated as
[15:57] illusion.
[16:00] Which are partially true,
[16:04] but it's a
[16:05] getting off on the wrong foot.
[16:08] Um
[16:12] Instead, we're going to talk a lot about
[16:14] this. I don't want to get into a long
[16:16] philosophical discussion right at this
[16:18] point. It's not the right time. So, let
[16:21] me instead just just point out
[16:23] something very very important, central.
[16:28] If Atman is real because it's
[16:31] unchanging,
[16:34] then the world is mithya
[16:38] because it's changing.
[16:42] Mithya does not mean changing.
[16:45] But mithya means change mithya suggests
[16:48] changeable.
[16:51] This pot can change forms.
[16:56] What about the clay?
[16:58] Again, stay with the metaphor.
[17:00] If in the metaphor, if I break this pot,
[17:03] the form changes, but clay remains
[17:07] unchanged.
[17:09] That's the distinction we mean to make
[17:12] here. That
[17:13] you
[17:15] have two aspects.
[17:18] One [snorts] is an unchangeable like
[17:20] this pot has two aspects. One is
[17:22] changeable, one is unchangeable. Same
[17:26] thing for you and me. One aspect is
[17:29] changeable, obviously. Our bodies go on
[17:32] changing, our minds go on changing.
[17:36] Even our personalities go on changing.
[17:38] Isn't that interesting?
[17:41] Are you the same
[17:43] Is your personality the same today as it
[17:45] was 10 years ago?
[17:47] Not at all. Well, there's some
[17:50] connection, obviously, but there's been
[17:52] major changes
[17:54] >> [snorts]
[17:54] >> in your personality over 10 years.
[17:57] How about your your roles in life? Those
[18:00] also go on changing. So, all these
[18:03] external factors about who we are
[18:06] continually change. [snorts]
[18:09] Yet, there's something about you that
[18:12] doesn't change.
[18:14] And that's what our discussion is going
[18:16] to be about, that fundamental reality
[18:20] of your existence as a conscious being.
[18:25] We have Remember conscious being chit
[18:27] sat
[18:29] conscious chit being sat
[18:32] sat chit ananda we'll come to the ananda
[18:35] part later. You your essence is sat chit
[18:40] unchanging
[18:42] conscious existence.
[18:46] sat chit sat unchanging existence
[18:50] chit consciousness is your true nature.
[18:54] sarvam everything tad anyat everything
[18:58] else is mithya
[19:01] So instead of just going for the handy
[19:03] word false or illusion which are
[19:06] meaningful in some contexts, here why
[19:10] don't we just stay with changing?
[19:13] changeable
[19:15] a not not a fundamental
[19:18] unchanging reality.
[19:21] And the reason and this is what the
[19:24] topic I'm avoiding is this.
[19:28] Would you say that the pot in my hand is
[19:32] an illusion?
[19:37] That's it.
[19:39] Would you say that it's false?
[19:43] It's changeable.
[19:45] You see where we're going with this.
[19:48] There is an underlying reality.
[19:50] Instead of saying unreal and I've trans
[19:53] I've used a very common translation here
[19:55] not real,
[19:57] but a better more nuanced translation
[20:00] would be less real. How's that?
[20:05] What is more real
[20:08] pot or clay? You can't say that the pot
[20:11] is
[20:12] the the example I've I'm sure you've
[20:14] heard me give before is
[20:17] this pot
[20:18] is completely unreal.
[20:23] This pot
[20:25] is somewhat unreal.
[20:28] Clay is real.
[20:31] So, we have three levels of reality now.
[20:34] One is absolutely unreal, atyanta
[20:39] abhava.
[20:41] Then we have absolutely real, clay.
[20:45] Then we have something in between.
[20:49] In between in between this pot
[20:53] and this clay, not pot.
[20:56] In between clay
[20:58] and this pot is something intermediate.
[21:02] What is that?
[21:04] This pot with name and form.
[21:07] We call that intermediate level of
[21:10] reality, mithya. Notice this is now a
[21:14] very nuanced definition.
[21:17] Mithya is an intermediate
[21:20] level
[21:22] of reality in between absolute reality
[21:27] and absolute non-existence.
[21:30] What is in between is relative
[21:33] existence.
[21:35] >> [snorts]
[21:36] >> And
[21:37] in Vedanta we give it a little bit more
[21:40] technical definition and this is as far
[21:43] as we're going to go today.
[21:45] Uh we use an expression some of you may
[21:47] have heard adhisthana ananyatvam.
[21:51] That which exists dependent upon an
[21:55] underlying reality. All it means is this
[21:59] intermediate existence is name and form
[22:04] which exists dependent on an underlying
[22:08] reality leading to a very simple
[22:11] understanding. This in between level of
[22:15] reality is a dependent reality.
[22:20] This pot has no reality at all.
[22:23] This pot
[22:25] has a intermediate level of reality
[22:29] that's dependent on clay.
[22:32] So, we have
[22:33] utter non utter nonexistence,
[22:36] dependent existence,
[22:39] and absolute existence of the of the
[22:44] pot. So, we if we're going to use the
[22:46] word mithya here, let's be very clear
[22:50] about the fact that it is not illusion.
[22:55] It cannot even be translated as unreal.
[22:58] It's more nuanced than that.
[23:01] Call it dependent reality. And as a
[23:05] dependent reality, always changing.
[23:10] This There was a time when this pot did
[23:12] not exist. Clay existed, this pot didn't
[23:16] exist. There will be a time when this
[23:19] pot no longer exists. Name [snorts] and
[23:22] sense, forms continually change. Atma
[23:26] does not.
[23:28] Fundamental reality. Now,
[23:33] now we we now we're ready. This is all
[23:36] introduction.
[23:38] Now we get into
[23:40] what we're really after, Atma Vichara.
[23:44] Instructions for the practice
[23:47] of self-inquiry.
[23:49] Atma Kahaha
[23:52] Atma Kahaha So, if Atma is the absolute
[23:58] reality, the fundamental reality,
[24:00] Kahaha, what is that Atma, that
[24:04] fundamental reality? And we begin.
[24:08] We're just beginning.
[24:10] Let's just see the words first.
[24:13] Sthula Sukshma
[24:16] Sthula Sukshma
[24:18] Karana Sharirat
[24:21] Karana Sharirat
[24:24] Vyatiriktaha
[24:26] Vyatiriktaha
[24:30] Yeah, what you We're going to do this
[24:31] just line by line. Because it What What
[24:36] we're seeing right now is an outline.
[24:40] Actually, let let's see it. What we're
[24:41] going to see is an outline for what
[24:44] we're going to be studying for the next
[24:46] 2 months.
[24:48] And while we have it in two slides, we
[24:51] have an outline for 2 months of study.
[24:54] So, let's just see the outline first.
[24:56] Pancha kosha
[24:59] Pancha kosha atita sun atita
[25:05] sun avastha traya avastha traya sakshi
[25:14] sakshi sachidananda
[25:18] sachidananda
[25:20] swarupa sun swarupa sun Yaha tishtati
[25:28] yaha tishtati saha atma
[25:33] saha atma
[25:35] That is our outline for the next many
[25:39] classes. And just to see the outline in
[25:42] a little bit more detail.
[25:44] Remember this
[25:46] I meant made mention before that long
[25:49] compound words in Sanskrit often give
[25:52] the correct meaning looking at them
[25:54] right to left. So, look at the
[25:57] right-hand side. Vyatirikta
[26:01] atma is vyatirikta different.
[26:06] Different from what? Sharirat
[26:10] Different from sharira means body.
[26:14] But which body?
[26:16] You have a sthula sharira, a physical
[26:21] body.
[26:22] You have a sukshma
[26:25] sharira, a subtle body.
[26:29] That which enlivens the physical body is
[26:32] subtle body, like the distinction
[26:34] between brain, which is sthula, and
[26:37] mind, which is sukshma, not physical.
[26:42] And then, in addition to the sthula
[26:45] sharira, physical body, and sukshma
[26:48] sharira, so-called subtle body,
[26:50] non-physical body, there is a karana
[26:54] sharira. Karana means cause.
[26:57] We translate it as causal body, and it's
[27:01] a cause for the existence
[27:03] of your physical and subtle bodies. What
[27:06] is that cause?
[27:09] Leave it aside. This is an outline,
[27:11] right? So, that's a question to be
[27:14] answered. These are sthula
[27:17] These are sharira traya. Three bodies.
[27:21] Sthula sharira is physical body. Sukshma
[27:25] sharira is only
[27:28] um
[27:29] figuratively speaking, a body. This body
[27:32] has a size and weight. Sukshma sharira
[27:35] has no size or weight.
[27:38] Karana sharira has no size or weight.
[27:42] Figuratively, they're called bodies. So,
[27:46] atma is vyatireka,
[27:49] different from these. That's where this
[27:53] journey of atma vichara begins.
[27:56] Discerning the difference, and in order
[27:58] to discern the difference, we're going
[28:00] to analyze each of these three in great
[28:04] detail in future classes. Let's just see
[28:07] the overview right now. So, atma is
[28:10] vyatireka,
[28:12] different from the sthula, sukshma, and
[28:17] karana sharira, different from these
[28:20] three bodies. Atma is also pancha kosha
[28:24] atita,
[28:26] sun.
[28:28] Sun it is atita, beyond.
[28:33] Beyond what? Pancha, five kosha,
[28:37] coverings. Figurative coverings. We're
[28:40] going to see all this in more detail
[28:42] later. But very simply, pancha kosha is
[28:45] just another way of analyzing
[28:48] the sharira traya. Suppose you have a
[28:51] pie.
[28:52] You can cut it up in three parts.
[28:55] Can you cut that pie into five parts?
[28:57] Why not?
[28:59] So, sharira traya is taking you as the
[29:03] pie, chopping you up in three parts,
[29:06] sthula, sukshma, karana, or we can chop
[29:09] it up in five parts.
[29:12] Annamaya kosha, etc. So, let me not go
[29:15] further into it, but just basically, if
[29:19] instead of a threefold analysis
[29:23] of what is outside
[29:26] the changeable part of you.
[29:29] Instead of a threefold analysis of the
[29:31] changeable part of you, we have a
[29:34] fivefold analysis of the changeable part
[29:37] of you. We will be seeing that in future
[29:40] classes.
[29:41] Then, avastha traya, sakshi.
[29:46] Notice that the first two said what
[29:48] you're not.
[29:50] So, uh the that first long compound, you
[29:54] are vyat atma is vyatirekta, different
[29:58] from.
[30:00] So, it says what you're not. Same way,
[30:02] pancha kosha tita, tita beyond. So, it's
[30:05] saying you're not the three changeable
[30:08] elements. You're not the five changeable
[30:13] aspects. Then, who are you? So, we start
[30:17] with negation
[30:18] and then shift to assertion.
[30:22] And the first two statements were
[30:24] negation.
[30:25] Next two statements are assertion.
[30:29] First statement of assertion, avastha
[30:31] traya, sakshi. Sakshi means a wareful
[30:36] witness, observer, referring to you, the
[30:40] conscious being.
[30:42] You, the conscious being who knows
[30:45] what's happening right now while you're
[30:47] awake, that's one of the three states of
[30:50] experience
[30:51] Avastha traya
[30:54] traya, three. Avastha, three states of
[30:57] experience, waking state, dream, and
[31:01] dreamless sleep. You are the Sakshi. You
[31:04] are the awareful observer of what's
[31:08] happening right now in the waking state.
[31:11] Last night during your dreams, you
[31:13] existed as an awakening as the awareful
[31:17] observer of whatever you dreamt about.
[31:20] And in between your dreams, you ex-
[31:25] In between your dreams, you experienced
[31:28] moments of pure silence,
[31:32] deep sleep.
[31:34] Did you cease to exist in those moments?
[31:39] That's our discussion for later.
[31:41] What we're going to discuss at great
[31:44] length later is the fact that you, as a
[31:48] conscious being, do not blink out of
[31:52] existence
[31:53] >> [snorts]
[31:54] >> during deep sleep.
[31:56] After all, you, as a conscious being,
[31:59] are a fundamental reality. We've already
[32:03] defined fundamental reality as
[32:04] unchanging.
[32:06] That which is unchanging can't blink out
[32:09] of experience,
[32:11] then you might ask, "Well, then how to
[32:12] explain our experience of dreamless
[32:15] sleep?"
[32:16] That's coming
[32:18] in great detail. This is outline so far.
[32:21] So, we have two statements of negation.
[32:24] You are vyatirekta.
[32:26] You are independent of the three bodies.
[32:29] You are atita, you meaning your true
[32:32] nature as Atman. You are atita. You are
[32:35] beyond the five koshas, negation. Then
[32:39] comes assertion of this trayas
[32:42] sakshi, you are the awareful witness of
[32:45] the three states of experience. And last
[32:48] statement of assertion is sac cid ananda
[32:52] svarupaha san.
[32:55] You are san. You exist as your svarupa,
[33:00] your essential nature is sac cid ananda.
[33:07] And we've already discussed that at some
[33:09] length, right? We said cid,
[33:11] consciousness,
[33:12] which is sac, unchanging, unborn,
[33:16] uncreated, eternal, limitless, etc. Sac
[33:21] cid. And the ananda part we'll see much
[33:24] later.
[33:25] That is your essential nature, your
[33:28] svarupa, the unchanging
[33:31] part. So, what we're doing then in this
[33:33] discernment, this what I call tattva
[33:37] viveka, this discernment of reality,
[33:40] we're separating everything into two
[33:42] piles.
[33:43] Right? When you When there
[33:45] What a funny image.
[33:48] Suppose
[33:49] you there's a big mess in your home.
[33:53] Everything is scattered all over the
[33:55] living room floor. Don't ask me why. Why
[33:59] did you do that? But just imagine.
[34:01] Everything is scattered all over your
[34:03] living room floor. It is a mess.
[34:07] What do you do? What is the first step
[34:10] in cleaning up a mess?
[34:13] Make piles.
[34:16] So, instead of everything all jumbled
[34:18] together, let's make one pile on one
[34:21] side of the room and another pile on the
[34:24] other side of the room so that we can
[34:26] make sense out of this mess.
[34:30] That's what we're doing.
[34:32] We're making order
[34:34] out of the mess, the mess that is who we
[34:39] are as it is jumbled intermixture
[34:43] of that which is changing and that which
[34:46] is unchanging.
[34:49] Notice how intermixed.
[34:52] Can you just put the pot over here and
[34:54] the clay over here?
[34:57] It's more complicated than that. They're
[34:59] so intermixed. That's what I mean by
[35:02] mess.
[35:04] So we need to conceptually
[35:07] separate out
[35:09] fundamental reality from name and form.
[35:13] Here we need to to conceptually separate
[35:17] into two groups. That which is
[35:19] changeable
[35:21] and that which is unchangeable.
[35:24] This is how our Atma
[35:26] Viveka does our our Tattva Viveka. It's
[35:30] how it begins and Yaha Tishthati.
[35:34] Yaha, that Let me say the last part.
[35:36] Saha Atma. That is Atma.
[35:40] That is Atma which Yaha, which
[35:43] Tishthati, that word is so important.
[35:48] That which remains.
[35:53] Not that which is.
[35:56] That which remains.
[35:58] Meaning what? You separate out
[36:02] the three
[36:04] so-called bodies. You separate out the
[36:08] five koshas.
[36:12] Let's go back to this this mess
[36:15] metaphor.
[36:16] You're separating things out. So you
[36:19] we're trying to do this Atma Viveka in
[36:22] brief. You have this big mess. Let's
[36:25] start separating out things that change.
[36:28] Is your body subject to change? Yes, put
[36:30] it in the changeable pile.
[36:32] How about your um
[36:35] prana?
[36:36] Life force.
[36:37] Does that change? Absolutely. Put that
[36:40] in the changeable pile.
[36:41] How What mind?
[36:43] Changeable. Memory is changeable.
[36:46] Intellect changeable.
[36:48] Keep Keep putting all that in your in
[36:51] the changeable pile.
[36:54] Suppose you could conceptually put
[36:57] everything about you that changes
[37:01] in a separate pile.
[37:03] What remains?
[37:06] Yaha tishtati.
[37:08] That which remains.
[37:10] That which is left over.
[37:14] This is a reference to the famous method
[37:18] used in the Upanishad. You've all heard
[37:20] it. Neti neti.
[37:24] Na iti na iti. This negation.
[37:29] So, you take all that is changeable and
[37:32] you negate it. Put it in the changeable
[37:34] pile. Keep taking one after another
[37:36] after another. This changes, put it
[37:38] there. That changes, put it there.
[37:42] And then you're done.
[37:45] That's all you have to do.
[37:47] Because what remains
[37:50] was already there.
[37:54] Yaha tishtati.
[37:56] And you might remember in one of the I
[37:58] think maybe in the very first
[38:00] introduction to this
[38:02] where I quoted my my guru's words, you
[38:06] already are that which you want to
[38:10] become.
[38:12] Your true nature is already divine.
[38:15] Atman is already suchitananda.
[38:19] So,
[38:20] what do we have to do What do you have
[38:22] to do to become that?
[38:25] Trick question. You get it, right?
[38:28] What do you have to do to become that
[38:32] which you already are?
[38:36] Suppose you want clay.
[38:38] What do you need to do
[38:41] to convert
[38:43] this pot into clay.
[38:48] Nothing.
[38:50] But But Swamiji, I want I want just
[38:52] clay.
[38:56] This is just clay. Is there anything
[38:58] else?
[39:00] Is it 3 oz of clay?
[39:03] Is the pot something in addition to the
[39:05] 3 oz of clay? Does pot add 1 oz?
[39:10] Pot adds nothing. There's nothing but
[39:12] clay.
[39:13] You see what we're doing here is a
[39:15] conceptual
[39:17] negation
[39:19] of what it's not.
[39:23] And we're doing so by analyzing that
[39:25] which is changeable. Pot is changeable.
[39:29] This form is changeable. Mind is
[39:32] changeable. Prana is changeable.
[39:36] Through this neti neti negation,
[39:40] you remove all that is not you.
[39:44] And Yaha Tishtati,
[39:47] that which remains
[39:49] is you.
[39:52] Now,
[39:53] that sounds very philosophical.
[39:58] Well, let me show you why it's not.
[40:04] The problems of your body
[40:08] belong to your body, do they not?
[40:11] I mean, just to make a very obvious
[40:13] statement. If your body is is old and
[40:17] tired, like this one is getting old and
[40:19] tired.
[40:20] If your body is is like that, those
[40:23] problems, the problem of age and
[40:26] tiredness,
[40:27] belongs to this
[40:29] body.
[40:31] When I do this, when we do this
[40:32] conceptual negation,
[40:35] we put the body in that pile which is
[40:38] changeable.
[40:40] The problems of the body go along with
[40:42] the body, right?
[40:45] So, when you put the body in that pile,
[40:48] it means it's not in
[40:51] it's not me.
[40:53] The problems of my body belong to my
[40:58] body
[40:59] and they don't belong to
[41:01] me.
[41:04] Do you see how that can free you from
[41:06] suffering?
[41:08] This discernment,
[41:11] atma viveka,
[41:13] can free you from suffering by
[41:16] recognizing
[41:17] it's not my problem.
[41:22] When I When I give that example, I I
[41:24] smile remembering an example I've given
[41:26] sometime. Some of you have heard this
[41:28] from me before. I think it's it's so
[41:29] telling.
[41:30] Um you're going shopping.
[41:33] You come out from the shopping uh from
[41:36] the store to the parking lot and next to
[41:39] your car is another car, same color and
[41:43] make.
[41:45] You can't It looks just like your car.
[41:48] Do you see and you see two cars, they
[41:50] look identical. You're not sure which is
[41:52] your car. You notice that one of them
[41:55] has a broken tail light.
[41:57] Being in the in the uh
[42:00] parking lot, you see it has a broken
[42:02] tail light. And you're thinking, "Gosh,
[42:04] if that's my Who broke my tail light?
[42:08] I leave my I leave left my car here for
[42:11] half an hour to go shopping. Somebody
[42:13] smashed into it and left."
[42:16] And you're upset.
[42:18] You were walking up to your car. You're
[42:19] really steamed, really angry. Who broke
[42:22] Who did this? And they didn't even leave
[42:24] a note. They just broke it and left.
[42:26] That's against the law. I should call
[42:29] the police. You get into all this
[42:30] emotional angst.
[42:32] And then you got close enough and
[42:34] realize
[42:35] it's not your car.
[42:37] It's the other guy's car.
[42:40] Suddenly, you're happy.
[42:44] >> [snorts]
[42:44] >> You're happy because it's not your
[42:47] problem.
[42:50] The broken tail light is a fact.
[42:53] How does it affect you?
[42:56] It doesn't.
[42:58] Because it doesn't belong to you.
[43:02] Suppose you can apply this line of
[43:05] thinking
[43:07] to your body.
[43:09] From a distance, you can't tell the
[43:11] difference between the two cars in a
[43:13] parking lot.
[43:16] Without careful discernment, you can't
[43:19] tell the difference between you and your
[43:21] body.
[43:23] When you come close in a parking lot,
[43:25] you can see, "Oh, that's not my car."
[43:29] When you come close through Atma
[43:32] Vichara,
[43:34] you get it. "Oh,
[43:36] that's not me."
[43:40] The moment you know it's you not your
[43:41] car, you don't care about the broken
[43:44] tail light.
[43:46] The moment you know, "This is not me."
[43:53] It changes your relationship
[43:55] with your body completely. Not that you
[43:58] don't care, that's a wrong expression.
[44:02] It means you have now have a pragmatic
[44:05] attitude towards your body. Generally,
[44:08] we don't. Generally, we have an
[44:11] expectation, my body have In order In
[44:14] order for me to feel good, my body have
[44:18] to be healthy.
[44:20] But when you can detach yourself
[44:22] sufficiently from the body and know that
[44:25] you can be absolutely okay in spite of
[44:29] the poor health of your body, then your
[44:32] relationship with your body changes. It
[44:34] becomes very pragmatic.
[44:37] So, if if your car has a broken tail
[44:40] light, you take it and get it fixed. If
[44:43] your body has some problem, you take it
[44:46] to the doctor and get it fixed.
[44:48] When your car becomes unrepairable,
[44:54] you give it up.
[44:57] When your body becomes unrepairable,
[45:03] when you get rid of
[45:05] We're going to We're going to have fun
[45:06] with this just for a moment.
[45:08] But,
[45:10] when your car is all broken down, you
[45:14] Look at Look at the I This is such an
[45:16] excellent, appropriate metaphor.
[45:19] You know,
[45:20] as your car gets older and older and
[45:22] older, you end up taking it to the
[45:24] repair shop again and again and again.
[45:27] How tedious is that?
[45:29] And how costly is that?
[45:33] And when you can finally get rid of that
[45:35] old, what do you call it, bucket of
[45:38] bolts? Is that what they call Yeah,
[45:40] bucket of bolts.
[45:42] >> Bucket of junk.
[45:44] When you get rid of We call it junker.
[45:46] An old car is often called a junker.
[45:48] When you get rid of the old junker, do
[45:50] you cry?
[45:54] You get a new car. You get rid
[45:56] [clears throat] of the old one, you get
[45:57] a new You're delighted.
[46:00] So,
[46:01] what happens at death? You get rid of
[46:03] the old junker,
[46:05] which you had, you know,
[46:07] in the previous years, how many times
[46:09] did you have to take it to the hospital
[46:11] or doctor's office again and again? What
[46:14] a nuisance it is. The day will come when
[46:18] we're happy
[46:20] to get rid
[46:21] of this old thing because it becomes
[46:24] such a blessed nuisance.
[46:27] Get rid of the thing.
[46:32] And it's easy to get rid of the thing
[46:35] when it's not you.
[46:38] That's why Atma Viveka is so important.
[46:42] That discernment
[46:44] that it is not you is so important. So,
[46:48] Yaha Tishtati,
[46:50] that which remains
[46:54] is you. That which is unchanging,
[46:58] un- unchanging means unborn, uncreated,
[47:04] and therefore eternal, undying.
[47:08] That one. Who is that one?
[47:13] In order to find out who it is,
[47:17] we start with who it's not.
[47:21] That's our discernment.
[47:23] And that's why notice the order that we
[47:26] have these
[47:28] our outline. We start with sthula
[47:31] sukshma karana sharira. We start with
[47:34] the physical, subtle, and causal bodies.
[47:38] And we have to discern how you are
[47:41] independent
[47:42] of those. Then pancha kosha, we have to
[47:45] discern how you are independent of this
[47:48] fivefold analysis of your body, mind,
[47:52] and senses senses, [snorts] et cetera.
[47:54] We begin with negation,
[47:57] but we end up with assertion. Now before
[48:01] and what we'll just begin this a little
[48:03] bit before we do,
[48:05] let me just point out the fact that
[48:09] mere negation is not enough.
[48:13] Negation is the use of is is a use of
[48:17] logic.
[48:19] And logic is an extremely powerful tool
[48:23] for this negation,
[48:25] but negation doesn't
[48:28] leave you
[48:30] with the full truth of who you are as
[48:35] pure consciousness.
[48:40] Do you know I'm going to edit myself
[48:42] right now because this is a big
[48:44] discussion
[48:45] and this is not the right time for it.
[48:48] Let me just just make make this point
[48:51] and we'll move on. Negation alone is not
[48:54] enough. Could could I define
[48:58] Could I define this pot merely by
[49:01] negation.
[49:03] Say, it's not an elephant, it's not a
[49:05] car, it's not the sun or moon. How much
[49:09] negation would I have to go through to
[49:11] define the pot? Enough said.
[49:14] Negation is a crucial starting point,
[49:18] but it's not enough. Everything else
[49:20] will set will come back to this much
[49:22] much later. But this is a good good
[49:25] place and we'll just begin.
[49:27] at a time.
[49:29] Yeah.
[49:29] Yeah, we'll just begin we'll begin this.
[49:33] All right.
[49:35] So,
[49:36] we left off
[49:40] that which that which remains when all
[49:44] that is not you has been negated. Saha
[49:47] Atma, that is Atma. So, what is what was
[49:51] the very first thing that we're negating
[49:55] is Sthula Sharira. That's our outline
[49:59] and that's where we begin here.
[50:09] Kim? What is Sthula Sharira, the
[50:14] physical body?
[50:52] So, what is this physical body?
[50:55] Shariram.
[50:57] It is second [snorts] line. Kritam, it
[51:00] is made. It is made of what? Stuff.
[51:05] Bhutas.
[51:06] What kind of stuff?
[51:08] Physical stuff. Physical stuff we called
[51:11] mahabhuta.
[51:13] Mahabhuta, we say there are pancha
[51:17] mahabhuta.
[51:20] Five physical elements out of which
[51:23] everything is is composed. This is part
[51:27] of a pre- scientific
[51:31] worldview.
[51:35] Yeah.
[51:36] This will be our last topic for today.
[51:39] Let Let's just talk about this. How many
[51:42] elements are there?
[51:44] So, here we have
[51:46] Shankaracharya or one of his descendants
[51:49] telling us there are five elements.
[51:53] >> [snorts]
[51:53] >> Now, you're thinking, "Wait a minute.
[51:54] What did you learn in college?
[51:57] Or even before that? How many elements
[52:00] are there?"
[52:01] It It's Actually, that's very
[52:03] complicated.
[52:05] There are 92
[52:07] naturally existing elements.
[52:09] And then there are a whole bunch of
[52:11] elements that are man-made. And we're
[52:14] still inventing new ones. We're actually
[52:16] manufacturing new elements in the
[52:18] laboratory. We will I think they're up
[52:21] to 116
[52:23] or something. I don't remember.
[52:24] Something like that.
[52:26] Long ago, I think when I was a kid, it
[52:28] was 104.
[52:30] Now, it's up to 116 or something. And by
[52:34] the time we die, it'll be more than
[52:36] that.
[52:37] So, these are elements. Now, who's
[52:39] right?
[52:41] Five elements
[52:43] versus
[52:44] 92 natural elements plus man-made
[52:47] elements. Who's right?
[52:49] It's not a matter of who's right or
[52:51] who's wrong. It's a matter of your point
[52:54] of view. This comes from a
[52:56] pre-scientific
[52:58] age. An age in which they didn't know
[53:02] They didn't know
[53:03] We know that elements are made of
[53:05] particles. They had no concept of what
[53:07] those particles were.
[53:09] So,
[53:11] from a pre-scientific
[53:14] perspective,
[53:15] they
[53:16] analyzed the world in terms of these
[53:19] five elements, one of which is space.
[53:24] And which is very interesting because
[53:26] space is not
[53:27] Nowadays, we think of space as something
[53:29] that doesn't exist.
[53:31] Space is not an element at all.
[53:36] Or is it?
[53:40] Einstein conceived of something called
[53:42] time-space,
[53:44] the fabric of the universe, fabric of
[53:46] creation.
[53:49] In particle physics today, quantum
[53:51] physics,
[53:52] space is not even empty.
[53:58] Space has the potential for stuff.
[54:01] In the quantum world,
[54:05] particles are constantly coming into
[54:08] existence
[54:09] and dissolving.
[54:12] Constantly coming, popping into
[54:14] existence, and popping out of existence
[54:18] from empty space.
[54:20] >> [snorts]
[54:21] >> What we learn from this is empty space
[54:23] is not empty.
[54:26] So, it's pretty complicated.
[54:29] Anyway, the point of this is not to turn
[54:32] this into a physics class, but to
[54:35] understand an important point. We are
[54:38] going to see in our studies several
[54:41] places where modern scientific worldview
[54:46] and the ancient pre-scientific worldview
[54:49] [music]
[54:50] don't fit.
[54:53] Five elements versus 92 or 116 elements.
[54:58] They don't fit.
[55:00] It's not one is right and one is wrong.
[55:04] We have to look at the universe through
[55:07] their lens to understand their
[55:11] perspective. From their perspective,
[55:14] they gave us a model of the world in
[55:19] terms of five elements. Not that they're
[55:21] wrong, but their mode of analysis is
[55:25] very different from ours. So,
[55:28] as we proceed, what we're going to do is
[55:32] not only a translation of the Sanskrit
[55:37] language, we also have to do we have to
[55:41] translate the world view, so to speak.
[55:44] Kind of like a cultural translation or a
[55:49] translation of vision. We need to learn
[55:53] how they saw the world to make sense out
[55:58] of what they're teaching us. So, what
[56:01] they considered to be a world made of
[56:04] five elements is the same as what we
[56:07] consider to be a world made of 100 and
[56:11] 100 some elements. What they considered
[56:15] to be a world made of three gunas, which
[56:17] is not a topic we're going to get into
[56:19] right now,
[56:20] we consider it to be a world made of
[56:22] matter and energy.
[56:25] We look at the world in terms of matter
[56:27] and energy. They looked at the world in
[56:29] terms of three gunas. These are two
[56:33] different perspectives. In order to use
[56:36] an ancient text, we need to become
[56:40] conversant not just with the language,
[56:44] but we need to become conversant with
[56:46] the world view as well. And we'll make
[56:49] that effort as we go along.
[56:51] And with that understanding, there's no
[56:54] conflict. Five elements, 100 elements,
[56:58] it's just two perspectives about the
[57:00] same reality. This is a good place to
[57:04] conclude,
[57:05] and we'll pick it up next week.
[57:09] Om
[57:11] Sarve Bhavantu Sukhinah
[57:15] Sarve Santu Niramaya
[57:20] Sarve Bhadrani
[57:23] Pashyantu
[57:25] Ma Kashchid Dukkha Bhak Bhavet
[57:30] Asato Ma Sadgamaya
[57:34] Tamaso Ma Jyotir Gamaya
[57:39] Mrityor Ma Amritam Gamaya Om Shanti
[57:46] Shanti
[57:48] Shantihi
[57:50] Om