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[0:18] Namaste.
[0:19] >> Hello.
[0:19] >> Guruji, hi.
[0:20] >> Um
[0:22] >> In me, in this um
[0:24] I feel such a strong longing for God
[0:26] since
[0:27] >> Yeah.
[0:27] >> I was born, I think.
[0:29] >> Yes.
[0:29] >> And this longing is so strong and
[0:31] getting stronger and stronger.
[0:32] >> Yeah.
[0:33] >> And I wonder who the one is who longs.
[0:37] So, mind wants sometimes to control it
[0:41] and to say, "Well, if everything is one,
[0:44] you shouldn't long." But I want to be
[0:45] here. I want to be
[0:48] with God. I want to be in God. I want to
[0:50] be God, actually.
[0:51] >> Yes.
[0:52] >> And um
[0:53] But this is really also
[0:56] I don't know, sometimes
[0:58] it's really breaking up me completely.
[1:00] And um
[1:01] >> Is it really what?
[1:01] >> It's breaking up my whole life. It's um
[1:04] And now sometimes I feel, "Wow, um
[1:08] how to handle this?"
[1:09] And still sometimes there is something
[1:12] creeping in this field like fear of
[1:15] mortality also. And then I think, "Wow,
[1:18] another topic. Um
[1:20] longing, yeah. So,
[1:23] follow or not follow?"
[1:26] That's maybe the question.
[1:29] >> Whatever you um
[1:31] whatever seriously engages your
[1:33] attention, whatever you truly want,
[1:36] you will pursue, isn't it?
[1:39] If you want something, you'll pursue it.
[1:41] Let's take it simply. You're hungry. You
[1:44] You don't You don't You don't go to the
[1:46] beach to go swimming. If you're hungry,
[1:47] you go to a place to get something to
[1:49] eat.
[1:50] Keep it simple. If you say that you have
[1:52] a deep longing for God,
[1:54] how do you set about uh
[1:57] you know, fulfilling that that longing?
[2:00] In most natural way.
[2:03] It must some longing must be taking you
[2:05] somewhere.
[2:06] If you have a deep urge to to meet
[2:08] someone, you've seen them. Even if you
[2:10] just see a picture, you don't know who
[2:12] it is. Some people have done that. They
[2:14] saw a picture of someone. They thought,
[2:15] "Ah,
[2:16] who is this person? Who is this person?"
[2:18] They There is no information on the
[2:20] picture. Maybe somebody lost it
[2:22] somewhere. But supposing you're
[2:24] deeply touched or fascinated by
[2:26] something happened and you really really
[2:28] want to know who this person is. Would
[2:30] you not
[2:31] Would you not go about finding ask
[2:33] somebody
[2:35] you know, where which country they come
[2:36] from, which place, how can I meet this
[2:38] person? Then if somebody say, "Oh, this
[2:40] man Oh, no, he died 6 years ago."
[2:43] And then you say, "Oh,
[2:45] okay." You have to come to terms with
[2:46] that.
[2:48] But if somebody if you're yearning for
[2:49] it it the your yearning will take you in
[2:51] a direction to fulfill the yearning.
[2:54] Because to just yearn becomes a
[2:55] suffering, painful, if it's not
[2:57] fulfilled, isn't it?
[2:59] So you say you have a yearning not for
[3:02] other other things in the world, but for
[3:03] God,
[3:05] which means uh
[3:07] the one that is everywhere.
[3:12] Not hiding behind any cloud.
[3:15] It's in everywhere, every living being,
[3:18] even in non-living things is there.
[3:22] He's the cause of them.
[3:25] So amongst living beings is the very
[3:28] core of them.
[3:29] Your deepest feeling, your truest
[3:33] sense or identity, your greatest love,
[3:37] your deepest longing
[3:39] is for that.
[3:43] So where you going to go to find?
[3:48] Everything else is going to be somewhere
[3:50] apart from you.
[3:52] Everything else is going to be in
[3:53] another country, another town, another
[3:55] place, another house.
[3:57] But where are you going to find that one
[4:00] who is everywhere?
[4:02] Who is the cause of not just the entire
[4:05] Earth and its atmosphere, but the solar
[4:08] system in which the Earth is a part of.
[4:11] And the solar system
[4:13] and that all the nine planets in the
[4:15] solar system,
[4:16] you know, is a tiny speck in the
[4:20] physical universe comprised of billions
[4:22] and billions, uncountable,
[4:26] the planets and universes in the
[4:28] physical realm.
[4:31] And greater in the spiritual realm.
[4:34] Trillions and no number exists for them.
[4:37] We're on tiny Earth.
[4:41] And yet where it is, wherever you may be
[4:43] on this planet, you always feel you're
[4:45] living in the center of the world.
[4:48] Maybe if you're lost in the wilderness
[4:49] and you you're getting hungry, you may
[4:51] not feel you're in the center.
[4:54] But wherever we live, we always feel
[4:55] we're in the center of the world.
[4:58] Why? Because that center is not
[5:00] necessarily just a physical center.
[5:03] It's the core, it's a core
[5:05] uh
[5:06] quality and presence.
[5:09] And that is your link.
[5:11] And that is your link, your first great
[5:14] clue.
[5:21] To find the such and such a person, you
[5:23] may have to go to another town, go on
[5:25] internet. Do you have to go to internet
[5:28] to find this one
[5:30] who is nearer to you than intimacy?
[5:37] And even near is too far.
[5:41] There's no gap that the supreme can be
[5:44] apart from you to be
[5:48] a separation even.
[5:51] Everything, all the trouble come through
[5:54] the mind.
[5:55] What we imagine.
[5:58] And after certain point, some people
[5:59] just get tired of the mind. They tried
[6:01] everything to get a successful, happy,
[6:04] peaceful mind by effort I've not been
[6:06] able to.
[6:07] Even yogas, yogis, even they don't get
[6:10] it.
[6:11] How are you going to come to this?
[6:17] There's something more peaceful you must
[6:19] find than your mind.
[6:24] You.
[6:27] You are the witness of mind. You can see
[6:29] turbulent mind, quiet mind,
[6:32] intermittent states of quietude,
[6:35] excitement, joy, panic. All these
[6:37] things, mind is like that.
[6:41] But that which witnesses the mind,
[6:45] the same I say the word mind because our
[6:47] world is contained in our mind.
[6:51] We say there's one Earth, but there are
[6:53] billions of worlds.
[6:56] Earth is a
[6:57] physical place,
[6:59] but your world is uniquely
[7:01] our internal construct, psychological,
[7:04] emotional, devotional, personal is the
[7:07] world we're living, and we smell and
[7:10] look and taste like our world.
[7:12] We taste like our mind.
[7:15] And that taste can change.
[7:18] And most people, they look to work on
[7:22] their mind. In our planet, we work on
[7:25] our mind. And there's a big industry
[7:29] to work on the mind.
[7:30] But here I'm not telling you to work on
[7:33] your mind.
[7:35] Because the very fact that you use you
[7:37] and yours
[7:38] is not same thing. Yours mean it belongs
[7:41] to you.
[7:43] You mean this.
[7:45] Uh so, mind, you say my mind,
[7:49] anything you touch with after my is
[7:51] something else.
[7:53] My life, even, my family, my friends, my
[7:56] belief,
[7:58] my practice, all of these can change.
[8:02] My.
[8:03] But who is a me?
[8:08] Who is me? Me must be there before my,
[8:11] isn't it?
[8:13] You can say my or mine.
[8:15] This belongs to me, it's mine. This is
[8:18] something you possess.
[8:22] But who is the me or the I?
[8:26] Hm?
[8:28] Let's solve this and think we'll all
[8:30] other problems will fall away.
[8:33] Who is this me? It It
[8:35] It's a little bit of a shapeshifter, no?
[8:39] Because
[8:41] uh
[8:43] even to write a a a biography or an
[8:46] autobiography of your life
[8:48] is still subject to challenge. You will
[8:50] yourself without anyone else reading it,
[8:52] you start to erase things and change
[8:53] things. Cuz no no autobiography
[8:56] represent the truth. Something knows
[8:59] it's not quite that. It's not quite
[9:00] Nothing is there.
[9:06] And so even people have written
[9:09] biographies and autobiographies of their
[9:11] life
[9:12] and most of them are they want to take
[9:14] the books back
[9:16] unless they're dead.
[9:19] They read it later and say, "No, no, I
[9:21] should have put this part or left this
[9:23] part out." Always editing our life.
[9:26] When you're dead, you're finished, you
[9:27] don't care about it.
[9:31] But so an autobiography or a biography
[9:34] cannot represent the truth's truth of
[9:36] you.
[9:37] So what is this truth of you?
[9:41] Cuz no person no personality is
[9:44] ongoingly happy.
[9:45] Nobody. You can be the richest person,
[9:47] the greatest emperor or king or queen,
[9:50] it's not going to make you happy in this
[9:52] way.
[9:54] Have the greatest diamond,
[9:56] the biggest crown, it will be nothing
[9:59] for you
[10:00] if you're sick or you're not
[10:02] uh
[10:04] happy and content.
[10:06] So happiness and our planet are
[10:07] intermittent states, like waving.
[10:11] Can there be a happiness that is
[10:14] ongoing
[10:15] untouched?
[10:16] It has to be not depending on things.
[10:21] Are we coming close?
[10:22] >> Yes.
[10:22] >> This has to be something. It cannot just
[10:25] be other.
[10:26] You are married the best person in the
[10:27] world.
[10:29] Lot of fun. You make great pledges.
[10:33] And after some time things change. They
[10:35] change, you change, things change.
[10:38] And you may grow and yet you may live
[10:40] all your life together and be very happy
[10:43] in the human way fulfillment.
[10:47] But if you're only happy with the
[10:49] someone else, so if one of you are going
[10:51] to go before the other unless you decide
[10:53] to make a pact
[10:56] then the other one is going to suffer.
[10:58] Isn't it?
[11:00] So where are you going to find a
[11:01] happiness
[11:03] which even when the body is dying, it
[11:05] will not touch this happiness?
[11:09] Mhm.
[11:12] And this has to be answered now. And
[11:14] it's not going to be answer rolling off
[11:16] your lips.
[11:20] Or is it simply impossible? Is it simply
[11:23] impossible for human being to be
[11:26] fully happy? Then what the hell is it
[11:28] all about then?
[11:30] Because suffering we are experts.
[11:33] But where is this happiness which is not
[11:35] about something?
[11:38] Not about a relationship, not about the
[11:39] state of your business, not about the
[11:42] state of your health, independent of
[11:43] that.
[11:45] Is there Are we in fantasy land? Then
[11:47] speaking is fantasy land. So where is
[11:49] that?
[11:51] What is that happiness?
[11:52] Is it attainable?
[11:54] Is it feasible? Is it possible?
[11:57] And for you
[12:01] today.
[12:02] >> Yes.
[12:03] >> Let's have it then.
[12:06] Because misery is uh
[12:08] always uh ongoing dramas.
[12:13] It I put it this way, we are not uh
[12:16] just here because we have to suffer. We
[12:18] suffer Suffering is uh
[12:22] Mhm.
[12:25] Pain is actual, suffering is optional.
[12:28] Depends upon the quality of your
[12:31] your
[12:32] mhm maturity,
[12:34] mind, sense of being.
[12:38] So, something can happen happen right
[12:41] here, and five people are immensely
[12:43] happy about it.
[12:45] And
[12:45] five other people are just
[12:48] completely destroyed by it, and other
[12:50] one don't care.
[12:53] So, can't blame the thing.
[12:58] So, I want to zoom into this happiness.
[13:00] Is there a happiness beyond possession?
[13:04] >> Yes.
[13:05] >> Mhm.
[13:08] So, we're here.
[13:12] What How to find this happiness? Where
[13:14] is it?
[13:16] There are other names for happiness. We
[13:18] don't have to call it just happiness. It
[13:19] could be complete contentment,
[13:22] total sense of fulfillment,
[13:25] so naturally fulfilled that the concept
[13:28] of fulfillment is not even there.
[13:33] Does it mean that this happiness is
[13:36] someone you meet smiling all the time?
[13:39] That's creepy.
[13:40] That's creepy. Doesn't mean you have to
[13:42] be there.
[13:43] And that's creepy. That's not that.
[13:46] Mhm.
[13:49] And so, even though we may experience
[13:52] different states, you know,
[13:54] uh some sense of turbulence in the mind
[13:57] or the body, that can be there. And can
[14:00] I say also, it does not uh touch this.
[14:04] Because this is not a happiness about.
[14:09] All happiness or pleasure is about
[14:12] something, because of something.
[14:15] But what about that which has no
[14:17] aboutness about it?
[14:19] So we And we don't know we That's why I
[14:21] say, let's use another word also for
[14:23] happiness.
[14:24] What about joy?
[14:26] What about awake?
[14:27] What about pure being?
[14:30] You use a word to God.
[14:34] Has anybody heard about the miserable
[14:35] God?
[14:38] And so
[14:40] what does it mean
[14:42] for you? What is this God that you're
[14:44] longing for?
[14:46] I feel we can also say you're longing to
[14:49] be home.
[14:51] And home is not necessarily a physical
[14:53] thing.
[14:55] Everyone
[14:57] Mhm. There was one thing I I think
[14:59] someone was sharing about the film. I
[15:00] didn't see it.
[15:02] Where there was a
[15:04] uh the story part of it was a woman
[15:07] who was very wealthy, wealthy husband,
[15:08] wealthy wife, and they had a wealthy
[15:10] life and everything. So uh but she had a
[15:13] compassionate heart.
[15:15] And so she just felt that this is not
[15:17] enough to have these things. She want to
[15:19] go and work and to work with homeless
[15:21] people and this kind of thing. And so
[15:25] um she went and she started this work.
[15:27] She became very very happy doing this
[15:30] work, very fulfilling.
[15:32] And so her husband noticed that she's
[15:35] extraordinarily happy.
[15:37] Not blissfully, but you know, she's very
[15:38] content in her life.
[15:40] So then he we start to look at what what
[15:43] the work she was doing and then he
[15:45] realized, "Oh, you know, she's Many
[15:47] people are grateful to her. They love
[15:49] her. They like her way. She's very
[15:51] respectful."
[15:52] So he felt very proud of this. So he
[15:54] decided one day to go by himself to this
[15:57] place.
[15:58] And he went there.
[16:00] And then he was speaking to one man. I
[16:02] think the man was a cleaner. He says,
[16:04] "You know, you know, you you you you
[16:06] live here?" He says, "Yes, I I I live
[16:08] here. You know, I was homeless before,
[16:10] but I found this wonderful place."
[16:12] And uh then he said uh
[16:15] "You know, my wife
[16:17] works here.
[16:19] And the people like her, she's very
[16:22] well known, very, you know?
[16:24] Because what? She loves and she likes to
[16:27] work to support homeless people.
[16:31] And the man said to her,
[16:33] "Sir,
[16:34] everyone is homeless until they find
[16:37] God."
[16:40] Rich man has big
[16:42] mansions and cars and stuff. Felt,
[16:45] "Look, he's uh my wife is generous. She
[16:48] gives, we give all to you.
[16:51] She loves to work with homeless people."
[16:54] The man said, "Sir, everyone is homeless
[16:57] until they find God.
[16:59] Now, where are you going to find God?"
[17:08] I'm not talking I'm not presented that
[17:11] to God is a physical being, physical
[17:14] entity somewhere.
[17:16] We we we have believed that also.
[17:19] Then if he's up there, then he doesn't
[17:21] know what's happening down here. And
[17:22] certainly not knows what's happening
[17:24] with you.
[17:25] I said, "No.
[17:27] Let's let's take a look and see
[17:29] if we can find this one.
[17:32] If he's everywhere, why nobody finding
[17:34] him?
[17:36] So, today we're going to catch him."
[17:41] How you going to catch?
[17:44] How you going to find, you see?
[17:46] You must be willing to to leave
[17:48] everything.
[17:49] When I say leave everything, I don't
[17:51] mean to destroy.
[17:53] I mean to detach a little bit. Let the
[17:55] mind continue
[17:58] pushing up
[18:00] its plans and things.
[18:02] Be aware of that.
[18:04] It's not everything that comes to the
[18:06] mind gets fed by you. Many things come
[18:09] they don't they don't even register
[18:11] because not interested.
[18:14] So, if every thought, every thing you
[18:16] see in the life appears to be
[18:18] auditioning for your attention to try
[18:20] and me by me get me but to say No no you
[18:24] don't touch any of these things.
[18:27] Even the one that feels attractive from
[18:29] one side for a moment just leave this
[18:31] leave this.
[18:32] You lost nothing.
[18:33] Don't purchase anything.
[18:35] Any feeling any sensation coming like
[18:38] that just be aware it's fine it can be
[18:40] there.
[18:42] If you don't pick it up they're not
[18:44] going to be vexed.
[18:45] They ignored me. No.
[18:50] Leave everything.
[18:51] And now we come to your favorite
[18:54] thoughts.
[18:55] Your favorite emotions various favorite
[18:57] thoughts.
[18:58] Favorite images leave them as well.
[19:00] Don't destroy but
[19:04] step back for a moment
[19:06] and take nothing with you.
[19:08] I say recede
[19:10] and take nothing with you.
[19:12] It's a very simple thing.
[19:14] Recede doesn't mean you don't have to
[19:15] get out of your chair right there. You
[19:17] just
[19:19] Meaning let these things be they can be
[19:21] there.
[19:23] Because without you they don't exist for
[19:25] you.
[19:28] Okay. They can wait they can be there
[19:30] don't worry.
[19:31] But we're leaving everything for a
[19:32] moment to find out what remain.
[19:36] And you must do this don't just think
[19:38] this.
[19:39] Don't just think this.
[19:41] So the the thoughts the feelings the
[19:44] emotions the memories
[19:46] the desires all of these they're
[19:49] We've given far too much time to them.
[19:54] And they're not hurt by you ignoring
[19:56] them.
[19:59] So leave for a minute. Let's see if you
[20:01] how it is to just be only you.
[20:06] We're good?
[20:08] So we leave everything all these things
[20:10] of yesterday don't touch anything from
[20:12] here don't take nothing tomorrow. Today
[20:15] also whatever is coming no no it's okay
[20:16] it's okay.
[20:18] You know.
[20:21] Put
[20:22] having a break on your door.
[20:24] Nobody, nothing to
[20:27] Now, what's left if you not destroy
[20:31] but simply remain detached, not for the
[20:34] moment, yeah? You're on your break.
[20:36] You're on your God break, okay? So, you
[20:39] leave everything. Now, you're here.
[20:41] As what are you here?
[20:45] As what are you here?
[20:50] You don't have to empty your pockets,
[20:52] just ignore all the things.
[20:54] Everybody can do it.
[20:57] Then, what is here? Now, I need to hear
[20:59] from you. What remain now?
[21:02] So, well, okay, there's still some
[21:04] thoughts. Yeah, yeah, it's okay.
[21:06] They can be there, but you're not
[21:08] purchased. You're not
[21:09] in a relationship now for a moment.
[21:11] Leave everything.
[21:14] Like you're in deep sleep. Like you're
[21:16] in deep sleep. In deep sleep, you have
[21:18] no possession, no relation, nothing.
[21:20] Deep sleep, but awake.
[21:23] Okay?
[21:25] So, just like this.
[21:26] So, nothing and nothing is waiting.
[21:29] The world is not waiting outside. Just
[21:31] leave everything.
[21:32] What is here?
[21:37] Mhm?
[21:38] Heaven?
[21:41] Presence.
[21:43] Presence is here.
[21:46] What does presence look like?
[21:49] How is presence recognized?
[21:53] We say presence.
[21:55] We are aware of You may be even a blind
[21:58] person
[22:00] alone in a room,
[22:01] and someone walks in
[22:04] just in socks, so no no noise. They are
[22:08] aware.
[22:10] Maybe more aware than us.
[22:12] Yeah?
[22:12] They're aware. There's a presence here.
[22:15] Yeah.
[22:17] And they may speak. They may say to you,
[22:19] um
[22:21] ah um what is your name?
[22:24] They can't see,
[22:26] but they're aware of
[22:27] a presence.
[22:29] Suppose there's no other presence.
[22:33] Okay?
[22:35] No angels,
[22:37] no demons,
[22:39] no people,
[22:40] no things. All these
[22:43] We're not saying we destroyed.
[22:45] We're saying that we are just not
[22:47] engaged.
[22:49] Detached
[22:50] from that.
[22:52] Okay?
[22:53] And you're here. What now? What is here
[22:56] now?
[22:58] So, the breath Breath is here. Breath
[23:00] you can see.
[23:02] Breath you aware.
[23:03] Something watches breath.
[23:06] That which watches breath, which is
[23:08] aware of breath,
[23:09] is that breathing also?
[23:12] What is aware of breath?
[23:15] So, I say nearer than breath even.
[23:18] Breath
[23:19] is a prana.
[23:21] The animating force of life form.
[23:26] So, even prana We're not destroying. We
[23:28] will need We need for the exercise
[23:30] anyway as well. So, prana can be there.
[23:33] Breath is going on, but we're not
[23:35] engaged with breath. We aware of that.
[23:37] So, subtler than breath.
[23:40] That which is watching breath.
[23:42] Mhm? Watches breath.
[23:44] Mhm?
[23:45] Watches
[23:47] the senses functioning. It knows them.
[23:52] What is it?
[23:55] Is it imagine imagination?
[23:58] I might If there was imagination, it's
[24:00] already it will know this is
[24:01] imagination.
[24:03] So, we not this Okay, this this also we
[24:05] can leave.
[24:07] What is here?
[24:09] Did somebody say love?
[24:12] Okay, love.
[24:14] So, love is also noticed.
[24:18] Beautiful. Love is here now.
[24:20] Mhm?
[24:21] Love
[24:23] beyond subject and object. Cuz you we
[24:26] talk about love, we have the lover and
[24:28] the beloved.
[24:29] We have lover and the thing to love,
[24:31] okay? So, both the the lover and the
[24:34] beloved and the love itself is already
[24:38] is already is also perceived in this.
[24:41] You follow what I'm saying? Even love.
[24:44] Oh, excellent love.
[24:46] The life force.
[24:48] The breathing, the breath.
[24:50] All of this is happening
[24:53] in the consciousness.
[24:56] Consciousness is here.
[24:59] Consciousness and presence, same same.
[25:03] A presence is your sense of presence.
[25:07] Yes?
[25:08] That within which you simply know you
[25:11] exist without comparison to anything.
[25:14] You know.
[25:15] Just like a mosquito come, it knows it
[25:17] exists. Everything in this existence,
[25:20] okay?
[25:22] So, any more to go than this?
[25:26] That even you know you're conscious
[25:29] right now.
[25:31] Isn't it? You know you're conscious now.
[25:33] You're not sleepy, you're conscious. So,
[25:35] something must be even subtler than
[25:37] consciousness to know
[25:40] we are having this
[25:41] talk or this introspection because we're
[25:44] conscious.
[25:45] Is somebody sleeping over there not
[25:47] participating? That's fine.
[25:49] We are conscious. You need to be
[25:50] conscious to be bit this consciously
[25:54] following this little exercise.
[25:57] Huh? Not just in your head.
[25:59] Maybe the mind is trying to figure it
[26:00] out, but that also is seen.
[26:03] So, remember that whatever you can
[26:05] perceive, whatever can be perceived
[26:08] through the mind or the senses becomes
[26:11] objects of attention.
[26:13] Hm?
[26:16] So, that which is perceiving them,
[26:19] does it have shape?
[26:23] You only you can know now.
[26:25] I'm not going to tell you. I want to
[26:27] hear from you. So, that which is aware
[26:30] of even the subtlest
[26:32] the breath
[26:34] or the holding of the breath is
[26:37] naturally
[26:38] appearing, let's say, on the on the
[26:40] screen of perception.
[26:42] Can we use like that?
[26:43] So, that now, that is seen. Mhm? It is
[26:46] seen. So, even the act of seeing
[26:52] even the functioning of perceiving or
[26:55] perception
[26:56] is known. Is
[27:00] Yes? Is this too difficult for anybody?
[27:03] Okay. So, what does that signal? Beyond
[27:06] everything that can be called knowable
[27:09] then you may say,
[27:11] "I feel
[27:12] I feel this amazing. I feel like"
[27:14] somebody may say, "I just feel like the
[27:17] the presence of God or the Holy Spirit."
[27:19] So, that's also perceived.
[27:22] We're not destroying anything, remember.
[27:24] Welcome. Welcome. That can be here, but
[27:26] that is also perceived for a moment.
[27:29] We're not rejecting.
[27:31] We're trying to find what is it that is
[27:32] perceiving.
[27:36] That is even aware of perceiving.
[27:40] Are we still here?
[27:41] >> Yes.
[27:42] >> Yes. As what now?
[27:45] >> Being.
[27:49] >> Let's do it. Let's do it.
[27:51] Let's do it.
[27:52] Experience it first. Don't give me
[27:54] answers.
[27:55] Here, right answers are not enough.
[27:59] Here, my questions lead to direct
[28:02] experience.
[28:04] And not just a dualistic experience of
[28:07] one thing experiencing another thing.
[28:10] A non-dual experience.
[28:15] What is that that has no counterpart, no
[28:18] other? How does it know itself?
[28:23] What does it look like?
[28:28] How can it be recognized?
[28:33] Does it need to destroy the body?
[28:36] Does it need to get rid of the world?
[28:39] Does it need to fight demons?
[28:42] What is it?
[28:45] Here for remember, I'm not interested in
[28:48] answers.
[28:51] Right now,
[28:52] my interest is in the question. Keep in
[28:54] the question alive.
[28:56] Cuz this question is revealing
[28:58] something.
[29:00] Mhm? But is this revelation an object?
[29:03] You see.
[29:10] Are my words relatable?
[29:12] >> Yes.
[29:12] >> Yes.
[29:15] And that also says words are relatable.
[29:18] It's almost like a mirror.
[29:22] Now I said earlier that if you put any
[29:25] object in front of a mirror, it will
[29:27] reflect that object perfectly.
[29:30] But if you put two mirrors facing each
[29:33] other,
[29:35] what will they reflect?
[29:40] Now your mind cannot help you here.
[29:44] Because even if you had a peep, it's not
[29:46] going to be true.
[29:49] What will they reflect?
[29:51] Who will know?
[29:55] This is the kind of question I'm putting
[29:57] to you.
[29:59] And it's not just for your mind. We've
[30:01] left the mind now.
[30:06] We've left you have Whatever you can
[30:08] observe, you cannot be.
[30:12] Whatever you observe, you cannot be.
[30:18] Okay? You got that?
[30:20] >> Yes.
[30:20] >> Are you afraid?
[30:22] >> No.
[30:23] >> Is there fear here?
[30:24] >> No.
[30:29] >> What is your state, alive or dead? Or
[30:31] what is it?
[30:32] >> Neither.
[30:35] >> I'm happy you can't say.
[30:39] Maybe beyond.
[30:44] My point is
[30:46] is
[30:47] there fear
[30:49] here?
[30:52] Mhm?
[30:54] I would not be surprised if someone
[30:56] felt, you know, "Whoa, whoa.
[30:58] I need to go.
[31:01] Some fear is coming and that that is is
[31:04] leading us into some darkness."
[31:07] I said, "Well,
[31:09] let's all go together in the darkness.
[31:11] Let's see what happen if it's darkness.
[31:14] If there is darkness, darkness will also
[31:16] be seen.
[31:18] If there's light, light will also be
[31:20] seen.
[31:21] Huh? If there is uh supernatural beings,
[31:25] they will also be seen.
[31:33] So, who are you?
[31:40] And I don't want your answer.
[31:44] Who are you?
[31:47] What is your size
[31:48] or your shape
[31:50] or your you?
[31:57] Why you not crying or shaking or
[32:03] Suppose you feel stunned by what I say.
[32:07] Maybe a sensation in the body, okay?
[32:10] That is also an experience, also
[32:12] momentariness.
[32:18] So, is this, whatever this is, this
[32:22] unnameable
[32:27] is it a figment of imagination?
[32:30] Seeing that imagination and the function
[32:33] of imagination
[32:35] is also knowable.
[32:40] How are you feeling right now?
[32:43] Good?
[32:45] Mhm.
[32:50] So, goodness is us all feeling.
[33:00] Who are you here?
[33:05] What gives you the power to respond?
[33:11] I call it awareness.
[33:14] Awareness cannot be subtracted.
[33:18] It is not an object.
[33:24] It is the self.
[33:29] It is the self.
[33:32] Not a thing.
[33:34] Not a verb, nor a noun.
[33:45] Not imagined.
[33:53] Could this be
[33:56] what this longing in you
[34:06] is for?
[34:12] What now? What to do?
[34:15] What to do or not to do?
[34:19] Have I paralyzed you?
[34:23] So, what?
[34:25] Mhm?
[34:27] Does it mean
[34:29] from now, realizing this, I must start
[34:31] to sit in a certain way?
[34:34] I must put a label on myself. My name is
[34:37] nothing.
[34:39] What do you want to do now?
[34:42] What is your behavior particularly?
[34:45] Well,
[34:47] much
[34:48] what will happen to
[34:50] your expression because this expression
[34:53] will come
[34:54] if you've come to if you come to this
[34:57] place of awake This is called awakening.
[35:02] This is called the natural
[35:05] state.
[35:09] This is called the Brahman.
[35:19] This is called the being of God.
[35:33] What does it look like?
[35:40] And where is it not?
[35:45] All existence is all the planets and
[35:48] their life forms in the physical and
[35:50] spiritual universes
[35:53] uncountable
[35:56] are floating in him.
[36:03] He is not he, he is not she, he is not
[36:06] it.
[36:07] There's nothing known through the mind.
[36:11] Prior to mind.
[36:17] Unimaginably real.
[36:26] Remember I asked before
[36:28] if I moved my hand like this, moving as
[36:30] an example, moving.
[36:32] I'm aware of it, no?
[36:34] I'm aware this is happening. Do I have
[36:36] to look at it to see I'm aware at it?
[36:39] I'm aware of this.
[36:41] Is the awareness doing this?
[36:44] Is my awareness doing this?
[36:48] This awareness and this that I've just
[36:51] find same thing.
[36:53] All life, all mind, all diversity, it
[36:56] manifest through consciousness.
[36:59] Consciousness is its creative power
[37:03] that manifests all
[37:06] life
[37:07] and takes care of it also.
[37:11] It gives the
[37:12] the play of diversity, the dance of
[37:15] duality, the movement of all things
[37:20] is
[37:22] moving in accordance to its will.
[37:25] The mind with its with its vast spectrum
[37:29] and facet of being this or that and
[37:32] coming and going and life and death and
[37:34] you and me and this and that and heaven
[37:35] and hell and the da da da, all of that
[37:37] is its
[37:39] dream the dancing.
[37:43] And yet in each form is there.
[37:46] Even in an ant or a mosquito, depending
[37:49] upon what the purpose of that life form
[37:52] was meant to
[37:54] do.
[37:58] Is in everything.
[38:06] Tell me what your mind has to say about
[38:08] what I'm saying.
[38:10] What's your person got to say about what
[38:12] I'm saying? You are
[38:13] you what I'm not just saying but what
[38:15] you are following also. Somebody give
[38:17] her and give this over there.
[38:28] >> For a moment, I wanted to raise my hand
[38:30] to say I'm
[38:33] um seeing a
[38:35] in that moment of of guidance and this
[38:37] guidance to destruction coming.
[38:40] >> Mhm.
[38:41] >> And I felt that person being destructed
[38:43] for a moment. I wanted to seek your
[38:45] help.
[38:45] >> Yes.
[38:46] >> But then,
[38:47] um
[38:49] Just one moment. Um
[38:51] it doesn't matter because that's the
[38:52] shifting attention is seen.
[38:54] >> Yes.
[38:56] >> And uh
[38:58] yeah, it's seen.
[39:00] >> When the shifting attention is jumping
[39:03] about and that's seen, what should we do
[39:06] >> Nothing, actually.
[39:08] >> Thank you.
[39:11] What could we do?
[39:13] >> A lot.
[39:14] >> A lot.
[39:18] Run out the room, try to put out fires.
[39:20] But you answered what what need you do.
[39:24] What do you need to do? Nothing. You're
[39:26] aware of it.
[39:27] >> Yeah, I saw what
[39:28] >> By
[39:28] >> this when the sense of I as a person was
[39:32] being
[39:32] >> Yes.
[39:33] >> created in that moment again and taking
[39:35] ownership of like, "Oh, my attention is
[39:38] >> Yes.
[39:39] >> Then I started feeling like, "Oh, I
[39:41] might be needing help."
[39:42] >> That's how you create feelings.
[39:44] >> Yeah, but then the more I just put Yeah.
[39:46] >> And then go continue.
[39:47] >> Let that go because I knew there's
[39:49] something more true.
[39:50] >> Yes.
[39:51] >> So, just let that
[39:54] >> So, you knew something was more true.
[39:57] Is that what you said? And you stay in
[39:59] the place of the
[40:00] >> Yeah, and then it's
[40:02] I'm still here watching attention
[40:03] drifting, but I'm not someone whose
[40:06] attention is drifting. I'm not the one.
[40:08] >> Can you hear this?
[40:10] Can you relate to what she is sharing?
[40:14] >> Um
[40:14] before.
[40:16] >> Yeah, before.
[40:18] Before in time or in space? Before
[40:21] meaning?
[40:24] Subtler.
[40:25] Untouched.
[40:27] Untouched.
[40:28] Now, the responsible mind says, "What I
[40:31] do I need to be untouched?" And you
[40:32] should feel something about it, should
[40:34] do something about it. And there will be
[40:36] time when there will be a need to do
[40:37] something about something.
[40:39] But trust the consciousness to know and
[40:42] to function spontaneously and
[40:44] intuitively
[40:45] to address the needs of the moment.
[40:54] Instead, the the
[40:56] the the habit has been
[40:59] to project
[41:01] techniques of how to deal with your
[41:02] projections.
[41:07] Can it be as simple as this?
[41:09] >> Yes.