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[0:00] Is there anything in our future
that scares you?
[0:04] People don't change. The writing
on the wall is the end. We are
[0:11] facing an inevitable crash. You
have to take care of your health
[0:16] if you want to be a participant
in the game. The programs make
[0:20] me feel like I'm a victim. 90
plus percent of the health
[0:24] crisis is due to one thing:
stress. People think cancer is a
[0:29] problem. I want to acknowledge
it. Cancer is a symptom of a
[0:35] problem.
[0:36] Just because you can do
something doesn't mean you
[0:38] should do something, or even
think, "Should I do this? You
[0:42] never thought about it. You just
did it.
[0:43] So my suggestion, people, please
listen.
[0:57] I like to welcome back to the
show returning champion Bruce
[1:00] Lipton.
[1:01] Did I win?
[1:03] You won. You won just by being
here.
[1:05] I'm so happy to be here. I just
want to say how much I
[1:08] appreciate your work because
civilization is facing an
[1:11] evolution, and to get through it
requires knowledge. Knowledge is
[1:16] power, and your program to me is
very important because you are
[1:21] feeding knowledge to a public
that is in desperate need to
[1:27] learn how to move from where we
are to where we can go.
[1:30] Well, first of all, thank you so
much, and I appreciate you
[1:33] saying those kind words, and I
appreciate you coming down to
[1:36] Next Level Soul Studios. I've
been wanting to do this since
[1:38] the first time we spoke. I
didn't even have a studio. I'm
[1:40] like, one day I want to sit down
with her in person, so it's it's
[1:43] a joy to have you in the studio.
So you know, obviously, you're
[1:46] we've talked a lot in the in our
past conversations about
[1:48] epigenetics and and gone down
the road of that, and talking
[1:53] about the power of the belief
and the power of the mind to
[1:55] heal and to change your genetics
and things like that. How
[1:59] powerful can a negative belief
be on the body.
[2:03] Very, very important question.
Why? Oh, positive belief.
[2:08] Positive, you know, placebo
effect. Positive belief. Okay,
[2:13] and no one until now is
mentioning the negative side.
[2:17] And to me, that was the
important part of the
[2:20] conversation that has been left
out. Why negative thinking is
[2:25] equally powerful as positive
thinking? You can heal any
[2:29] disease with positive placebo
thinking. What people have to
[2:34] know is you can manifest any
disease and even die with
[2:40] negative thinking. It's all it
takes. You can get cancer
[2:43] because you believe it.
[2:45] That is a lot of times, like you
don't know it until the doctor
[2:47] says, "Oh, you have three months
to live. And like, well, I guess
[2:49] I have three months to live, and
the body reacts.
[2:51] Yeah, and this has always come
about because during, for most
[2:54] people, during the formative
years of programming, which is
[2:59] up to age seven, if if people
have a family doctor, and
[3:05] anybody gets sick in the family,
oh, we have to go to the doctor.
[3:09] I go well. There's a problem
because in that programming
[3:13] says, well, if it comes to
health, I don't know anything
[3:16] about it, but the doctor knows,
and so you transfer the power of
[3:22] knowledge to whatever the doctor
said, so and this is a scary
[3:28] part because if a prognosis is
not positive, it's a
[3:33] prescription to manifest. So as
you mentioned, like oh you you
[3:38] have three months left to live,
and people die in about three
[3:42] months, and you know, many times
in autopsy, they never died from
[3:47] the cancer they were supposed to
have died from. They died
[3:50] because of the belief they were
going to die, and this all comes
[3:55] down to a simple fact: we are
manifestors, creators of our
[4:00] life experiences. We are a piece
of God,
[4:04] Spark,
[4:05] And the idea is you don't
recognize the power of that
[4:10] position because we've never
been programmed to see ourselves
[4:15] as that. We've been programmed
to be victims,
[4:17] Powerless,
[4:18] And powerless means I can't do
it, but somebody else can do it.
[4:23] And then the question is, how
much will it cost to fix me? And
[4:29] you become a customer, a
consumer of something on the
[4:34] outside to replace what you
already have innately on the
[4:40] inside. Powerful, but if you
don't believe you are powerful,
[4:44] it's hey biology of belief.
[4:48] It's a good bookI heard. I heard
it's a good. I've seen a copy.
[4:54] Well, then let me ask you this:
on the on the flip side of
[4:56] that, why do people who think
positively still get sick.
[5:01] Ah, that is the most important
question because that's where
[5:05] people come and say, "Well, that
must be a bunch of BS, a belief
[5:08] system. And I go, "No, you see,
the when you say the mind, it's
[5:14] in my mind. It conjures up an
idea that there's a single
[5:20] entity called the mind, when in
fact there are two minds that
[5:25] are interdependent. The latest
evolution of the mind is right
[5:31] behind your forehead, a lobe of
brain called the prefrontal
[5:36] cortex. This is what makes us as
individuals different. This is
[5:41] our source. This is our
identity, and as we get into it,
[5:47] this is the seat of our
spirituality. Okay, and the
[5:52] character of this conscious mind
is creative. So I say, hey, tell
[5:59] me your wishes and desires, and
whatever you come up with is a
[6:03] manifestation of a creation. Oh,
I want this. I would love to
[6:08] have that. You know, I go yeah,
creativity. Then I say the other
[6:13] part of the mind, which is about
90% of the brain, is the
[6:18] subconscious, and sub means
below conscious. It operates
[6:22] without you even paying
attention. The subconscious is
[6:25] the equivalent of a hard disk in
a computer. It's got programs,
[6:31] what we call programs, habits.
Okay. Now there are some good
[6:35] habits. When did you learn how
to walk? That's a good habit.
[6:39] Before it's true, and you're
still walking, and you can be
[6:43] 100, and you're still walking. I
say, that's the power of a
[6:47] program. Once it's in there, my
whole life, riding a bicycle. So
[6:52] the idea is this: the conscious
mind is creative, the
[6:56] subconscious mind is a hard
drive with programs in it. Okay,
[7:02] and then comes this issue. When
you're coming from a conscious
[7:06] mind as an observer and
participant in the world, then
[7:11] you're manifesting wishes and
desires. Okay, and here comes
[7:16] the problem, and nobody's aware.
And I want to thank you for
[7:19] asking. The conscious mind can
look out your eyes, pretend your
[7:25] body is a vehicle. Your
conscious mind is leaking out
[7:28] the windshield, and the
conscious mind is driving us to
[7:33] what wishes and desires. But
here comes the problem: the
[7:38] conscious mind can think. What
what what I go? Thinking is not
[7:45] looking out. Thinking is looking
in. A thought is inside. So the
[7:51] moment you are thinking, you are
disconnected from the world at
[7:55] that moment. You're inside. I
go. Yeah, but I love it. If
[8:00] you're driving a car and all of
a sudden you say, "Yeah, well,
[8:03] when I get to the store, I'm
going to do blah blah blah. I'm
[8:08] going at that moment. You are
not driving the car. I go, "What
[8:12] do you mean? I said, "You're in.
You're thinking. You're not even
[8:16] looking out the windshield.
Yeah, but the car seems to be
[8:19] driving okay. I go, and this is
it. The subconscious is
[8:25] autopilot. When the conscious
mind is engaged thinking, the
[8:31] programs in the subconscious
mind take over. Okay, now that
[8:36] subconscious mind is a million
times more powerful a processor
[8:40] than is the conscious mind, so I
say, yeah. You taught the
[8:46] subconscious mind how to drive a
vehicle just as much as you
[8:49] taught it how to rock. Okay, so
the idea is the moment you were
[8:54] thinking about what you were
going to do at the destination,
[8:58] the autopilot subconscious took
over, and it drives even better
[9:04] than you because the processing
power of that mind is fantastic.
[9:09] So the idea was, yeah, you were
thinking, and the car was being
[9:12] driven unconsciously by the
subconscious. Now to conclude
[9:18] this very important part, how
much time does the average
[9:23] person spend thinking? And the
answer is 95% of the day.
[9:30] Meaning, this is it. 95% of the
day, your life is operating from
[9:36] the programs you have in the
subconscious mind, and because
[9:41] you are not looking out, you
don't even see the program you
[9:45] are playing, because you're
inside. But everybody else is
[9:53] responding to your program,
okay? And now comes the bitter
[9:59] pill, and that is this. 90% of
the 95% of your life is this is
[10:05] the program, okay? And
percentage-wise, 60% of those
[10:11] programs that we download in our
life are disempowering and
[10:18] self-sabotaging. So that means
when you're on autopilot, 95% of
[10:24] the day, the majority of your
behavior is self-sabotaging.
[10:30] Well, Bruce, is this what is
this what happens when the
[10:35] powers that be are trying to
control the populace by feeding
[10:38] them fear and constantly trying
to control them in that way
[10:42] because if that's a program as
well.
[10:44] Excuse me, they are controlling
them, and this is really
[10:47] important because well, people
watch the media, okay, and then
[10:52] they they tell us this is how
life is.
[10:54] Right, these people
[10:56] And then all of a sudden you
you're in your living room and
[11:00] you're watching, you know, the
planet go to hell, and you look
[11:04] outside and say, "Oh my God,
we're in trouble. It's like,
[11:08] well, that's because of the
video they're showing you, and
[11:12] it's like, is that the real
world or is that the selection
[11:17] of what they want you to know?
Let's go back. The idea of this
[11:22] programming, which is
biologically and scientifically
[11:26] the first seven years of your
life, your brain is not even at
[11:30] the level of consciousness until
age seven. Okay, under age
[11:36] seven, you're in a brain
function called theta. Theta is
[11:40] imagination and character. So a
child under seven lives half of
[11:46] its life in the real world and
half of it in the imaginary
[11:50] world. You got imaginary
friends, imaginary games, blah
[11:53] blah blah. So I'm saying this is
a download period. Okay, there
[11:58] is no filtering of the download.
You it's the state of hypnosis.
[12:04] That's what failure is.
Hypnosis. I go. Why? Hey, how
[12:10] many things you have to know to
be a functional member of a
[12:13] family, or how many things you
have to know to be a functional
[12:16] member of a community? I say
1000s of things. The you know
[12:20] the rules of life. I say, how's
a young kid, an infant, going to
[12:26] learn the rules to be a
participant? And the answer is,
[12:32] well, they can't read a book and
they can't go to a school, but
[12:37] nature has made that mind a
state of hypnosis. So all you
[12:42] have to do is observe. You
observe your parents, their
[12:45] behavior. You observe the
community, their behavior, and
[12:49] you download them. Again, you're
downloading other people's
[12:54] behaviors, and the majority of
them are self-sabotaging. Okay,
[12:59] and then 95% of your life, when
you are thinking, is coming from
[13:05] those programs. So now I go. 400
years ago, the Jesuits started
[13:12] telling their followers, "Give
me a boy until it is seven, and
[13:17] I will show you the man. I go,
"My God! They knew even that was
[13:23] seven years, and they knew that
whatever program went in, 95% of
[13:29] that person's life is a program,
and what do they manifest?
[13:34] Catholic school. Why? Give them
the rules before they're seven,
[13:41] and the program for that would
be in your mind just as much as
[13:44] walking would be in that
program, and they own you from
[13:49] there. Okay, well, that was 400
years ago. Today, the
[13:55] programming is much more
significant than it was when the
[14:01] Jesuits were aware, and I was
tell people, look at an infant
[14:07] carrying an iPad.
[14:09] Oh, I know.
[14:09] And at that moment, that's
programming. You're programming
[14:13] an infant to use this computer.
You know, I said, insidious. And
[14:19] I say, but most of the
programming is very negative,
[14:23] and I say the result, as we just
mentioned, was the programs make
[14:29] me feel like I'm a victim. I
cannot control my genes. I
[14:34] cannot control what goes on in
my life in the world. I'm a
[14:38] victim, powerless, and as the
moment begins, you're powerless.
[14:43] You will pay anything to get
power from somebody else.
[14:48] And there's always someone who's
ready to charge.
[14:51] Ah, just yeah. Watch TV every 15
minutes. Yeah,
[14:55] 15 seconds nowadays.
[14:56] Yeah.
[14:56] So let me ask you this, Bruce:
Is there any programming for?
[15:00] Your first seven years that
seems to still show up every
[15:03] once in a while that you've
become aware of and you've might
[15:06] have adjusted in your life,
[15:07] Not negative ones.
[15:09] Okay,
[15:09] why? Because I had very negative
program. I tell you very
[15:14] personally, my father and mother
had a very dysfunctional
[15:17] relationship. Okay, and I say so
what? I observed my father's
[15:21] behavior, which under age seven,
what did I know was good or bad
[15:27] behavior? I downloaded his
behavior. Then for 40 years, 40
[15:33] years, I could not sustain a
relationship, and the reason was
[15:39] once I was start thinking, and
my father's behavior would be
[15:44] the autopilot. My relationships
were gone, but I met my partner
[15:51] Margaret. I think 32 years or so
ago, and she, in her former
[15:57] career, was head of a workshop
programming company, very much
[16:03] aware of programs. I was aware
of programs, you know, from the
[16:07] minds and all that. So when we
started to get together, we had
[16:11] one argument, just once, and it
was like two egos bouncing
[16:18] against each other. It was the
worst argument over nothing.
[16:22] Yeah, directions how to go
someplace. You know, it's like,
[16:27] and I remember for about a week
to two weeks after my hands were
[16:33] my nervous system was shaking of
how that was traumatic, but we
[16:38] made an agreement never to have
an argument, and we both knew
[16:43] about program, so came the
option. If I came up with a
[16:47] program that was negative, most
people, when they do that in a
[16:51] relationship, one comes up with
a negative program, and the
[16:56] partner observes and goes, "Who
who are you? You know, where
[17:00] where did that come from? Well,
you have to remember: if you're
[17:04] playing a program, you're
playing because you're not
[17:06] paying attention, so you don't
know, you know, what you just
[17:11] said. But your partner observes
it, okay? And then, well, you
[17:15] did this blah blah blah
argument, fight. 50% of
[17:19] relationships dissolve in
divorce. Why? Because the
[17:25] person's negative programming
overrides them at some point.
[17:28] So, bottom line was this:
Margaret and I, knowing about
[17:31] this, if I came up with a
negative program, she wouldn't.
[17:35] It wouldn't be an argument. It
would be, Bruce. Did you just
[17:39] hear what you said? I go. What
did I say? And then she tell me.
[17:44] I go. Oh no, I didn't really
mean that. And that was the
[17:49] opening to change a program. So
in our relationship, I changed
[17:56] all the negative programs.
Anytime they would come up, and
[17:59] she had hers, and she, we would
change them, and so what was
[18:04] that? Removing the negative
behaviors, and retaining the
[18:09] positive behaviors, and the
result is the honeymoon that
[18:14] I've been on for 32 years of
waking up every day with, oh my
[18:20] God, I'm so happy. I'm so in
love. I love my life. I love my
[18:24] partner. Heaven on earth for 32
years, not one argument ever
[18:30] after.
[18:30] Beautiful, beautiful. Now, is
there any beliefs that you've
[18:34] had in your in your life that
has affected your health or your
[18:38] body?
[18:40] I'm dealing with it right now, I
say, what was that? About two
[18:43] and a half years ago, I was
having a pain in my ear, my side
[18:48] of my face. I went to an ear,
nose, a throat doctor, and I'll
[18:53] never forget it. He says, "Well,
let me look down your throat,
[18:57] and then he looked down. Then he
gave me. He looked at me with
[19:01] this like serious, like close to
my face, and he goes, "Bruce,
[19:06] you have cancer in your tongue.
I go, "Oh, and he's waiting for,
[19:14] "Oh, I got cancer. I just said,
"Oh, well, I know this for a
[19:19] fact. There's no gene that
causes cancer. There's not one
[19:25] gene that causes cancer. Cancer
is 90% minimum due to lifestyle
[19:32] and cancer.
[19:32] Environment too, no?
[19:34] What's that?
[19:34] Environment as well, right?
[19:35] Well, yeah, that's involving
lifestyle. Okay, how I manage
[19:39] myself. Okay, so I realize,
okay, I have a cancer, and
[19:45] people think cancer is a
problem. I want to acknowledge,
[19:49] cancer is a symptom of a
problem. This is why. Where is
[19:56] the cancer? Lung, kidney,
prostate. Wherever that is a,
[20:04] it's actually telling you
there's an issue you are not
[20:08] dealing with, and the cancer
affects that area where you're
[20:12] not dealing with something.
Okay, so I have a tongue cancer,
[20:17] and my career is speaking,
[20:19] Right!
[20:20] And all of a sudden, I go well.
I can't. I lecture. I'm still
[20:24] working. I'm rebuilding this
tongue muscle, and I say, "Oh my
[20:30] God! There's no more speaking.
Then I realized, for 20 years,
[20:37] I've had a knowledge of a theory
of evolution that was
[20:42] challenging Darwinian theory. I
call it the antidote to
[20:47] Darwinian theory. And the simple
fact we get into is Darwinian
[20:54] theory is the cause of the
upheaval of our civilization at
[20:58] this time. And I had this new
scientific theory of evolution
[21:04] that completely challenges the
whole Dharma thing. I mean, the
[21:08] whole idea is Dharma is based on
competition.The new theory is
[21:13] cooperation as the drive of
evolution, and I didn't write
[21:19] it. I kept speaking and giving
more and more lectures
[21:23] About it or other things.
[21:24] What's that?
[21:24] About it or about other things?
[21:25] About anything but the story.
And and therefore I say, so why
[21:32] is my speaking affection? It
says because you are not writing
[21:37] what you've had in your mind for
20 years. So simple conclusion.
[21:44] Okay, I commit. I'm going to
write this book. My scan from
[21:50] the med people before writing a
book, malignant tumor. In the
[21:57] middle of writing my book, a
scan said benign tumor. At the
[22:03] completion of my book, the last
scan said no tumor.
[22:09] Really, but it still affected
your tongue.
[22:11] Well, yeah, because for two and
a half years, remember, tongue
[22:14] is muscle.
[22:14] Of course,
[22:15] And the tumor wrapped around the
nerve, which I couldn't move
[22:19] that muscle. Well, anybody who
knows about muscle, you can
[22:23] build up muscle, but if you
don't use the muscle,
[22:26] It
[22:27] It atrophies. So I'm still
working with what rebuilding the
[22:32] muscle for two and a half years.
It was paralyzed, and so I'm in
[22:39] the process of a lot of people.
When I tried to speak earlier,
[22:42] said, "Oh, you must have had a
stroke,
[22:44] Right,
[22:45] Or something. No, it was just my
inability to maneuver my tongue
[22:51] and speech.
[22:52] So I want to dig into this a
little bit because it's such an
[22:54] important lesson to that for
people to listen to, is that you
[22:59] had a, and I'll argue. I'll just
say you had a download of this
[23:03] information.
[23:04] Yes.
[23:04] This information came through
you, and you said, for whatever
[23:08] reason, scared. I don't want to
go down that road. I know what's
[23:11] going to happen when I come out
there. They're going to attack
[23:13] me. I really don't want to deal
with this.
[23:15] Are you me or what?
[23:17] Well, I've I've had similar
worlds myself, my friend. I
[23:21] didn't hold on to it for 20
years, but I've had these
[23:23] conversations with myself, and
I'm like, "Oh God, but you've
[23:27] been given the gift, so you've
been given that information, and
[23:30] it's your job and your sole
mission to put this out. You
[23:34] agreed to it.
[23:35] Well, yeah, and the idea was I
wrote a book called The Biology
[23:38] of Belief.
[23:39] Believe if I believe if
[23:41] I can't heal myself, then the
book is meaningless.
[23:45] Right. So there's a lot
[23:47] Under some pressure.
[23:48] So there's a lot of there's a
lot of levels to this. Yeah. So
[23:51] when people hold on to a dream,
and or or stifle a talent.
[23:56] Yes.
[23:57] So like I really want to dance,
but I'm an accountant, and
[24:01] there's nothing wrong with being
an accountant if that is what
[24:03] you're supposed to do and what
you find joy in, and that's when
[24:06] people and that's when like oh
or I'm holding on to something
[24:09] I'm just not letting go of it or
not processing it. Yeah, this is
[24:13] where disease comes from.
[24:14] 100% People think oh genes are
responsible. A fact less than 1%
[24:23] of all the health crisis on this
planet-less than 1%-is even
[24:29] connected to a gene. 90 plus
percent of the health crisis is
[24:34] due to one thing: stress.
[24:37] Oh yeah, absolutely.
[24:38] And the world is getting more
and more stress every day, every
[24:42] day, and the house price is
going up more every day. No
[24:45] matter how much medicine, no
matter how many hospitals, blah
[24:49] blah blah, the house price is
getting worse. Why? Because we,
[24:55] you know, brought into the
medical system as well. I'm not
[24:58] well. The doctor, I go. They're
still locked into an old belief
[25:03] about if something's going on
below your neck, it must be
[25:08] something wrong with the
mechanism.
[25:10] Yeah, the machine's wrong.
[25:11] The machine's wrong, and so
here's some medicine, a drug, a
[25:15] chemical. Put this into your
system and adjust the machine.
[25:20] And the problem is this: 90% of
that, 99% villains is from here.
[25:27] And if you don't deal with this,
then you're going to just
[25:32] struggle to try and keep fixing
the machine when the problem was
[25:37] up here.
[25:38] So then, as as well to fix the
machine as well as there is a
[25:41] there's a belief as well, and
I've realized this as well in my
[25:44] life is that when you what you
eat and how you eat is not only
[25:50] on a physical level of like you
know the energy the energy of
[25:54] the food the chemicals of the
food that help you and all that
[25:57] stuff but belief of that so even
like I know everybody watching
[26:02] has at one point or another go.
I need to get in shape. I need
[26:05] to start eating right.
[26:06] I had to do this myself with the
wake up call with my cancer.
[26:09] So tell me.
[26:10] Yeah. Okay. Number one, this is
people have to wake up. This is
[26:15] tough one. The minimum lifespan
of a human biologically is 150
[26:22] years. We get to 100. Everybody
thinks, "Oh my God, you lived to
[26:26] 100. I say, "You're missing 50
years. I say, "Where's the
[26:31] problem? Almost all of it comes
down to food. I go, "Why? Well,
[26:36] let me tell you first the
negative side. When you burn
[26:41] fuel, let's say gas in the car.
You get energy, but you get
[26:46] toxic waste product coming out
the exhaust pipe. You don't
[26:51] breathe the exhaust; it will
kill you. Okay,
[26:54] Right.
[26:55] When you burn food, a toxic
byproduct is called free
[27:00] radical, and free radical are
charged ions, atoms with a
[27:05] charge, and they shoot holes in
the cells, and they kill cells.
[27:12] The more food you digest, the
more cells you kill. Now,
[27:17] basically, you're killing your
body cells. You know the ones
[27:20] that are already functional:
liver, muscle, skin, blah blah
[27:25] blah. Interesting fact, viewers.
Here's a fact: every second,
[27:33] three and one half million cells
die. Every second, three and a
[27:38] half million just dies. Three
and a half million just die.
[27:42] Well, we have stem cells, which
are embryonic cells with a new
[27:47] name, and they replace the cells
that are dying. But when you eat
[27:53] food, the proportion of cells
that die proportion are the body
[27:58] cells. But you still hit a
number of stem cells. Over time,
[28:05] you will diminish the population
of stem cells, and that's where
[28:10] the problem comes in because
you're still losing three and a
[28:14] half million cells. But if you
don't have enough stem cells to
[28:18] replenish that loss, it's a
downhill ride. That's the aging
[28:22] that comes in. Okay.
[28:24] How do you keep the stem cells
at a good level?
[28:28] Take care of yourself.
[28:30] Eat right. Take care of
yourself.
[28:32] Okay. And now number many things
come in here. I'd like to tell
[28:36] you something that you're not
going to find in a textbook.
[28:38] Okay. As a Short story:
Chernobyl reactor blew up, and
[28:48] every year they put a robot with
a camera go through the reactor
[28:53] and just say, "What's going on?
And year four, there was black
[28:59] fungus growing on the wall in
the reactor, you know, how can
[29:06] anything live in the reactor?
Well, that pushed some
[29:10] scientists to say, "What the
hell is the fungus able to do to
[29:16] survive in the reactor? Well, it
turns out it was what made them
[29:21] black? I said, "What was that
pigment? I said, "What's the
[29:25] name of the pigment? Melanin. I
go, "Why is that relevant? It's
[29:30] the pigment in all of our skin
except for albinos. Okay, all of
[29:35] us have melanin. Okay, the
degree of melanin is also due to
[29:41] where people came from to a
certain start, like the
[29:45] equatorial zone, and melan had
two functions: absorb the
[29:51] negative rays from the sun to
keep us from burning ourselves.
[29:55] Okay, and the new function, and
this is it, folks. In plants,
[30:01] there's something called a
chloroplast. It's a protein
[30:06] granule that takes sunlight and
converts it into energy and
[30:10] food. Melanin is the animal
equivalent of chloroplast. It
[30:18] takes energy out of the field,
converts the energy into
[30:23] biological energy and provides
our energy resource. So, how
[30:31] much? Well, about 90% of the
cells' need for energy comes
[30:38] from the environment. 10% from
nutrition, and the point is what
[30:45] we're eating too damn much food
that we should be on a
[30:49] subsistence diet. There are
people that call themselves
[30:52] breatharians. They say they
don't eat anything. They may
[30:56] not, and some of them are. They
had he had crackers. I saw he
[31:01] ate some salt chains. I go, he
didn't supersize his meal, my
[31:05] friends.
[31:06] We're not here because of the
saltines, my friends.
[31:10] No, but the point was what that
they have as much a healthy life
[31:13] as people that eat the full
three meals a day,
[31:17] Which is all corporate.
[31:18] It's all corporate pushing.
Yeah, that's why a hamburger is
[31:21] not enough. You need a double
hamburger with fries, with
[31:24] fries,
[31:24] And a supersized Coke.
[31:26] Oh, I guess that Coke because of
sugar.
[31:29] But Diet Coke is fine, right?
Because that cancels out all the
[31:31] calories, obviously, and and
[31:34] It's a it's a sales gimmick.
[31:36] Well, it has been
[31:38] And and here's the hard part:
eating meals is an addiction. It
[31:44] is meaning okay. It's lunchtime.
I'm hungry. Why it's lunchtime?
[31:49] Am I really hungry? Not
necessarily, but it's 12
[31:53] o'clock. It's time to eat.
[31:55] So you want to? I want to tell
you something I've been doing
[31:58] lately. Yes, and I'm in it right
now. I've I did a six week juice
[32:05] fast.
[32:05] Yes,
[32:06] And I felt better than I felt
and ever. I'm currently on day
[32:11] seven of another juice fast.
[32:13] Yes,
[32:13] And day one or day two is that
detox time. You headache, and
[32:18] you start feeling. Second day, I
was like,
[32:19] it's just drunk with cold
turkey,
[32:23] Right! And I was eating
extremely well these last three
[32:26] months since the first time I
did it because I changed my diet
[32:29] and became stronger and all that
stuff. And I'm in the middle of
[32:31] it now, and I feel fantastic. I
feel energetic, and I just have
[32:36] juice and coconut water and some
some veggie broth, and and I'm
[32:40] good, and that's my that's my
fast. What is happening? Can you
[32:45] explain to people the power of
fasting and what it does to the
[32:49] body? Because I agree with you.
Like after all the research I've
[32:52] done, we eat way too much.
[32:54] Way too much.
[32:55] And our ancestors did not have
three meals a day. They ate once
[32:59] every four or five days if they
were lucky. Generally speaking,
[33:02] if they're hunter gatherers,
[33:03] They were the breatharians.
[33:05] They were, but yet we. This is a
thing. There was a myth thrown
[33:08] around, like, oh, if you don't
eat, you're going to lose muscle
[33:10] mass. Muscle mass, and to a
certain extent, you do lose a
[33:13] little muscle. But I was, I
always thought to myself, well,
[33:15] wait a minute. If you're a
hunter gatherer, you lose
[33:18] muscle. You can't hunt, and if
you can't hunt, or you can't
[33:21] grow foot. You can't do
anything.
[33:23] One of the best exercises is not
running but walking.
[33:27] Yeah,
[33:28] And a hunter gatherer walks.
[33:30] And if you walk uphill, it's
even more powerful than running
[33:33] a mile. Yeah, as far as so yeah,
[33:36] This is an important part. So
number one, as you just
[33:40] mentioned, you're healthier. Why
using the digestion process
[33:46] takes a lot of energy from the
body to digest all this, and
[33:50] then all the waste product adds
to the misery of that. As a
[33:55] downhill run, you lose 50 years
right away from from living the
[33:59] way we are living. But number
two, is the food that we're
[34:05] eating beneficial? And the
answer is no, not now.
[34:09] Industrial farm food is so short
of nutrient, but it does what
[34:15] its intention was. What's that?
I'm satisfied. I was hungry. I
[34:20] put something in there. My
stomach says, "Okay, we have
[34:24] stuff. We're good. I'm
satisfied. I ate some digestion.
[34:29] Goes there was nothing of value
in this.
[34:32] this out as fast as possible.
[34:34] Get rid of it. Yeah,
[34:35] And it's it's fascinating. It's
like because now, yeah, yeah,
[34:38] I'm full, but our body never
thought that we would be eating
[34:43] this unnatural food, this ultra
processed foods.
[34:46] So the whole mission statement
is to really look for organic,
[34:52] natural food. Okay, and you can
be vegan, you can be vegetarian,
[34:57] you can be omnivore. It's the
amount. Of the food that makes a
[35:01] big difference,
[35:02] And the quality of the food that
you eat.
[35:03] Well, the quality-that's why I
said try not to get the
[35:08] commercial stuff sold in the
market. Yeah, farmers' markets,
[35:12] if you have. And there's so many
other aspects to this about this
[35:16] food that's not helping us. But
I feel satisfied. I ate that
[35:21] super-sized me. I'm so full. I I
just sit here for a while, and
[35:26] I'm going. You are killing
yourself. Now you can't just
[35:30] say, "Oh, Bruce said we should
eat virtually nothing tomorrow.
[35:34] I'm going to eat virtually
nothing. Don't do that. You
[35:36] can't do that. It's a withdrawal
from Mr. Drug.
[35:42] When I eat, I eat probably my
biggest meal would be lunch,
[35:46] which is not that big, and then
I'll have a light dinner. But I
[35:49] don't have I have intermittent
fasting essentially, so I eat
[35:52] basically within a seven eight
hour window, six to eight hour
[35:55] window, and that's it. And it
seems to work for me, and I my
[35:58] body reacts very well to it.
[36:00] Everybody's body would, okay,
because the mechanism you're
[36:04] overfeeding a system that says I
only make 90% of the energy.
[36:09] That whole myth of well, you
have to eat this for your
[36:13] energy. I go, I don't have to
eat that for energy. I'm taking
[36:17] it right out of the air, okay,
[36:20] And the sun,
[36:21] And because as you said, the
hunter-gatherer doesn't eat
[36:24] every day, maybe days. I go,
well, they're going to die
[36:28] because they didn't eat for
three days in a row. I said, no,
[36:31] they can make energy. The body
is storage and all. It's killing
[36:36] the body with food that is too
much and has no ability to
[36:43] nourish you, and so there's
minerals too, which is not in
[36:48] the soil anymore, from you know
repeating the same farming over
[36:53] and over and depleting the soil
from elements that are
[36:57] functional for us. So it's a
filler. The food is a filler,
[37:02] And it's getting worse. I mean,
they're starting. There's
[37:04] movements of regenerative
farming and that kind of stuff
[37:07] coming up, and I think
everyone's starting to wake up.
[37:10] Not everyone, but it is a
necessary part of our evolution
[37:14] at this moment. Is the wake up
call, and the wake up pro is
[37:17] very simple. This science has
recognized that to sustain our
[37:23] civilization at this minute
requires the resources of 1.6
[37:30] planets, and he said, "Wait a
minute, the resources of 1.6. We
[37:36] have one planet. Where's the
extra point six resources that
[37:41] we're using coming from, and the
answer is we're destroying the
[37:46] ecosystem under our feet. We're
destroying the soil. We're you
[37:52] know pillaging the resources of
the minerals under our feet.
[37:57] We're collapsing the web of life
around us, and there's one big
[38:01] problem. I say, where is it? We
evolved from the web of life. If
[38:06] the web of life doesn't exist,
we cannot exist. And so science
[38:12] has recognized the demands of
civilization on the resources is
[38:17] in excess of what the planet can
provide. So NASA. NASA
[38:23] scientists have come up with an
understanding to reveal, and I
[38:28] want to emphasize this: they
have given us between 10 and 20
[38:33] years before there is, and this
is the emphasis, an irreversible
[38:39] collapse of civilization. I
emphasize that because I always
[38:44] just go back to the old way. I
say no, the old way was not
[38:48] sustainable either. That always
just do what we used to. I go
[38:52] no, we were not in harmony with
each other. We were not in
[38:57] harmony with Mother Nature. The
old way is death. We're moving
[39:03] out. This is when we were
talking. People are waking up.
[39:07] Let's eat less. I go eating less
saves your life. Guess what? It
[39:12] saves the planet.
[39:13] Well, there's there's a movement
going on right now because of
[39:16] these GLP one drugs that are
going around, which are I'm not
[39:20] a fan of. But it has changed
Americans specifically their
[39:25] eating habits. Fast food joints
are losing money because they're
[39:29] eating less. It's a health
benefit. It's a health benefit
[39:34] of a but it's doing something.
It is a reprogramming. It's a
[39:37] rough one, and there's a lot of
issues with those. There's a lot
[39:41] of studies being done right now,
and that's another episode.
[39:44] But I would like to add this
because sugar is like a cocaine.
[39:51] It's drug. You can take it, and
then it feels good, but then you
[39:55] need some more. Then you need
some more. Okay, so they are
[39:59] sweetened. The food with high
fructose corn syrup.
[40:05] Oh, the worst!
[40:05] Let me tell you about this, and
people don't understand. In
[40:09] experiments, they fed rats one
group sugar, real sugar, sugar
[40:13] cane, and the other group got
the high fructose corn syrup,
[40:16] and then they ran through a
battery of tests of learning and
[40:21] memory, the high fructose corn
sheep rats failed miserably.
[40:27] They weren't able to hold the
memory, and their learning was
[40:30] impaired. I guess what the
government is paying the corn
[40:37] growers to make more. Why?
Because it's the cheapest form
[40:41] of sweetener, yeah, but what
else? It incapacitates the
[40:45] public, and all of the products
from Coca-Cola down to health
[40:50] food bars,
[40:51] Oh yes,
[40:52] Have high fructose corn syrup.
So that is a toxic element that
[40:57] will take away your
consciousness, your you know
[41:00] your ability to memorize, your
ability to learn, and we are
[41:05] feeding Americans this
Europeans. They have sugar, cane
[41:09] sugar in their soda. Okay,
[41:12] I know when I was in Italy, I
drank soda for the. I hadn't
[41:14] drank coke in forever, and I
just drank it. I was like, "Oh,
[41:17] this is not. I mean, it's
delicious. It was. I was like,
[41:19] "This. I don't remember tasting
this good, yeah. But I had it in
[41:23] Italy. But when, but here, it
just, it's just,
[41:25] Yeah. But that was a plan. Why
would the government fund this
[41:30] to give us sweetener? No, to
take away our consciousness, to
[41:36] make us less, you know, mentally
fit. Why control control the
[41:44] population? Why because they
know it's going to collapse
[41:50] civilization. Okay, they know
that, and so how are you going
[41:54] to control people? Make them
less intelligent, put the clamp
[42:01] on them, hold them down, because
this upheaval will challenge the
[42:06] entire way we are living.
Because the way we are living is
[42:10] we're living beyond our means.
[42:12] And now corporations are
creating seedless versions of
[42:16] foods, fruits and vegetables, so
we can't even collect seeds to
[42:19] grow it ourselves.
[42:20] Absolutely, my manipulation. You
know, the major problem. You
[42:26] cannot plan agriculture if you
don't know what the weather is
[42:31] going to be. The U.S. the
Midwest called the breadbasket.
[42:36] We get the wheat from the
Midwest. This year, Kansas, one
[42:42] of the biggest providers of
wheat, there is no harvest at
[42:48] all this year. Why? With the bad
weather from the spring to the
[42:53] summer,
[42:54] The heat,
[42:54] The plants didn't grow, so
there's no harvest of wheat.
[42:59] Wheat prices have gone up 40%
already. Why? Well, everything
[43:04] from bread, pasta, cookies,
anything with wheat. The price
[43:09] is going up. Is the salary going
up? No. Is the cost of living
[43:13] going up? You bet. What's the
point? It's not sustainable.
[43:18] People can't afford living this
way. So, little advice in my new
[43:24] book. There's a section on
nutrition, and it brings up
[43:28] something very interesting. He
said, before industrial farming
[43:32] took over, the staple diet of
people from Nepal, India, China,
[43:41] okay, Japan, South America, was
rice and beans. I know.
[43:48] Interesting. Those two foods
together offer the complete
[43:55] amount of different amino acids
for a human to build their body.
[44:01] All the amino acids to build the
proteins come from two foods,
[44:05] rice and beans, and it's
interesting because at this
[44:10] moment that's still the cheapest
food in the market.
[44:15] It is,
[44:15] And the point about it is we're
facing an upheaval. Matter of
[44:22] fact, with diesel prices going
up and the industry putting us
[44:29] dependent on diesels, when we
used to have the railroad, which
[44:34] would deliver everything, now is
diesel trucks where I live in
[44:39] California. It's 875 a gallon
for diesel, and the point about
[44:45] is what there's even at a high
price, there's a shortage of
[44:50] diesel. october 1 coming is
supposed to be a trucker's
[44:54] strike. I go, you don't realize
how this will incapacitate the
[44:59] entire country. Why? How are you
going to get food to the
[45:03] supermarket? It has to come by
the truck. And what happens when
[45:08] there's a like a hurricane or
something disaster coming? The
[45:13] food stores two hours, the
shelves are empty.
[45:17] Now what?
[45:18] This is the problem. We're
facing that kind of big dramatic
[45:23] thing coming, whether it's the
trucker strike or other factors.
[45:29] We're running out of food that
people can't afford. In fact,
[45:34] more and more people are now
charging the food at the
[45:37] supermarket because they don't
have the cash. What does that
[45:41] mean? Living beyond your
ability-it's always going to hit
[45:45] the fan. At some point, you
still got paid for all this
[45:48] stuff. So I'm coming down to
what was the point here: eating
[45:52] too much. The food prices are
going up faster than you can
[45:57] afford them, and the resolution
is two things: eat less, and the
[46:03] cheapest food in the market are
rice and beans.
[46:07] Yeah,
[46:07] And if we went back to that, and
I want to add this for the
[46:11] people: generally, you have a
first aid kit in your house. I
[46:16] don't want to use my first aid
kit, but if there's emergency,
[46:20] I'm damn well have one. I'm
saying that the food in your
[46:25] pantry is like a first aid kit.
As long as there's food in the
[46:30] market, I have no problem. But
the moment there is no food in
[46:33] the market, where are you going
to find food? And so my
[46:38] suggestion, people, please
listen. Put away food for at
[46:43] least two months. Dry food,
canned food, food that you can
[46:48] add some water to
[46:50] Easily cook, easy prepare,
[46:51] Easy to sustain yourself. Why?
We are facing an inevitable
[46:57] crash. We're beyond the ability
of the planet to sustain us.
[47:04] This is not a suggestion. This
is a fact. And I say, so when
[47:09] there's no food in market, what
are you going to do? The answer
[47:13] is, you better have something
put away. And while the prices
[47:17] are going up, hey, this is a
great time to buy some rice and
[47:20] beans. Why? That is the basic
staple to live on around the
[47:27] world. That was the basic
staple, and I'm just saying,
[47:31] warning: we are facing an
evolutionary upheaval at this
[47:36] minute. Why? Not sustainable.
Okay, and and this is why I'm
[47:43] saying, if you know this is the
future, that knowledge should
[47:49] empower you to say, I have to
take care of myself because the
[47:54] future is the government's not
going to come and help you.
[47:58] And it's I think a message that
we're trying to put out there is
[48:01] that you have the power within
yourself to not only take
[48:04] control of your own life, but to
take control of your own mind,
[48:08] to take control of your own your
own experience, where you've
[48:12] been programmed to believe that
you are lesser than, that you
[48:15] can't connect to God. You need
to have a middleman to do it.
[48:19] You know that you aren't. You're
born with original sin, and only
[48:23] I just need 10% of everything
you make for the rest of your
[48:25] life. You know, you're born with
a sin, yeah, and you need me to
[48:30] clean it from you. It's insane.
[48:32] We are prisoners of a belief
system.
[48:36] A story. I call it a story. The
story that a framework story
[48:38] that we tell ourselves.
[48:40] Yeah, but somebody told you that
story exactly. People that knew
[48:44] that they can control you. Why
control has always been who's
[48:49] dominant. You know, there's an
evolution of control. The first
[48:54] control was who's the biggest
badass in the community, the one
[48:58] with the biggest club. If he
says do it, you do it. Okay, big
[49:03] bad guy. Then evolved the guy
who owned the resources, because
[49:10] even the big bad guy had to have
those resources. Then the big
[49:13] bad guy became the soldier for
the baron who had the resources.
[49:20] Okay, so we went from bad guy,
resource provider, and then the
[49:26] last level was knowledge is
power, and that's when the
[49:32] church owns you know the the
knowledge we get direct from
[49:37] God. You don't get it. We have
it. You can buy it from us and
[49:42] scare people. You're going to go
to hell. Where did hell come
[49:47] from? Well, it's down there in
the fire. I go. It was from
[49:51] mythology, from the Greeks. The
Greek myth of a lake on fire was
[49:58] what prompted the idea of hell.
[50:01] Wasn't also Jesus also talked
about the Lake of God? What's
[50:05] the Lake that he talked about
where they there were sacrifices
[50:08] in Jerusalem and they were
throwing kids into it? Henna,
[50:11] henna, Lake Lake Henna or
something like that. And that's
[50:16] he's like, if you guys don't
behave yourselves, you know
[50:20] you're going to end up there.
And they took that and created
[50:22] the hell concept. But then,
wasn't in the 1300s when Dante
[50:25] showed up?
[50:25] Devil, Dante made a visual.
[50:27] Oh, he he was great, wasn't he?
He did him a great marketing.
[50:31] There was no devil. There was no
devil before Dante. There was no
[50:34] levels of hell. There were no
demon. That was not a thing,
[50:36] because that's just good
storytelling.
[50:39] And we bought it. And once you
buy it, then fear, and then once
[50:42] you have fear, then you have
yeah. Because fear, you give up
[50:46] your power to be safe.
[50:49] So Bruce, I think also that now
the people, it seems like, and
[50:54] it's been it's it's a story is
all this time where they create
[50:58] a tremendous amount of fear to
control people, and then if they
[51:02] create enough enough fear, and
it's so, and everything gets a
[51:06] little too crazy, they go. We're
gonna need to do this. We're
[51:11] gonna have to take away a couple
more freedoms from you, but
[51:13] you'll be safe, and you'll take
a little bit. We'll control your
[51:17] food, but you'll be safe, and
you just trust us. You'll be
[51:19] safe. That's the oldest trick,
and now it seems to be happening
[51:22] not only in here, in this
country, in many ways, but in
[51:26] around the world, and in
different countries in Europe
[51:28] and Asia and everything.
[51:29] Whether you want to say it was
the church in hell, or the
[51:36] medical the medical community,
which is the pharmaceutical
[51:40] company, giving that fear and
controlling through that
[51:45] fear-that's a history story, as
you just said. Make somebody
[51:48] afraid, make them a victim, and
then they will pay or give up
[51:53] wherever is necessary for them
to feel safe.
[51:57] Yeah.
[51:57] And as we're facing upheaval,
there's going to be more control
[52:02] to keep this.
[52:04] you feel it. You feel it coming
in. Yeah. It's it's it. I mean,
[52:08] from the food prices. I mean,
you're right. At a certain
[52:11] point, this is this got to pop.
Yeah. This this bubble has to
[52:15] pop. Yeah. Um. You can't just
keep spending worth what 40
[52:19] trillion in the hole, and it's
it might as well be 40
[52:23] katillion. It doesn't matter.
[52:26] You know, I love it because Musk
is a trillionaire. I go, that
[52:30] sounds like a lot. I say, a
trillionaire has more money than
[52:34] 1000 billionaires.
[52:37] Right,
[52:38] 1000 billionaires worth of money
in the hands of one person?
[52:42] That's insane.
[52:44] And the problem about all this
is, there's a certain amount of
[52:49] resources on the planet. This is
like NASA research. Imagine a
[52:53] pie chart. I say 100% resources
on the planet. Then I say less
[52:59] than 1% of the population has
more than half of all those
[53:03] resources, so take half the
pounds to take it out. Then
[53:07] what? 8 billion people are
competing in a struggle to get a
[53:15] piece of the half that is left
over. We manufactured our own
[53:21] struggle-it didn't exist-and I
have to say this as well: the
[53:29] Darwinian theory, and people-you
didn't have to go to school. My
[53:34] father never went to school, but
he was certainly aware of the
[53:38] concept: dog eat dog, survival
of the fittest, compete all
[53:42] that, which is the theory, is
permeated our civilization with
[53:50] a belief that I must compete to
get a piece of a struggle. I go
[53:57] well. First of all, we
manifested the struggle. Nature
[54:01] was never a struggle. Nature is
a garden. I said, "What's your
[54:05] garden? A community of insects,
animals, and plants living in
[54:11] harmony. A garden is a beautiful
place of harmony. And I go,
[54:18] "What's the relevance about
this? I go, "Well, the only
[54:23] organism in the garden that is
not participating in the harmony
[54:28] of the garden are human beings.
We're destroying the garden
[54:32] under our feet. And I mentioned
earlier, if the garden goes
[54:36] down, we can't be here either.
But we have some belief in start
[54:39] with the Bible. Oh yeah, God
Genesis made a planet, put some
[54:44] water on it, you know, light,
blah blah.
[54:48] Yeah, we're only 5000 years old,
[54:49] And and and then added the
humans as like an option to
[54:55] nature. So the concept of we're
separate from nature. And the
[55:01] idea we have dominion over an
age cycle-how's that working
[55:05] out? We're destroying the world
that we live in because of
[55:10] belief. We can do what we want.
It's like we're destroying.
[55:15] We're the only organism not in
harmony with a garden, and a
[55:21] garden, by definition, is not a
battleground. It's the height of
[55:27] cooperation. The only organism
not cooperating are humans who
[55:33] have been programmed to be
competitive.
[55:35] I I love that that thesis. I
love that you're absolutely
[55:40] right. If you look in nature,
and it's regardless if you're an
[55:43] atheist or you're a full
believer in in everything we
[55:46] talk about on this show, you
have to admit that there is a
[55:50] beautiful design to this. Not
only this planet, this universe,
[55:56] there is a cyclical situation
with everything, and it just
[56:00] seems. I love that I've never
thought about it this way, but
[56:03] the garden, as as you as your
example, is a perfectly
[56:07] cooperative. And it and if if it
was the bee trying to compete
[56:12] with the wasp or trying to
compete with the the it wouldn't
[56:16] work. It has to. Everyone does
their job, everyone works
[56:19] together, and everything just
flourishes. It's only when one
[56:23] thing goes a little too hard
that everything gets thrown out
[56:26] of whack.
[56:26] And then nature tries to
compensate by eliminating that
[56:29] one thing from the garden.
[56:31] Well, yeah. Like so, I'm from
Florida, and they introduced, I
[56:35] think, just Floridians
introduced the python, pet
[56:40] pythons into the Everglades, and
now they are run amok, and now
[56:45] they are they are now the apex
predator. That ecosystem had
[56:49] never was designed for that
being to be in there. So now the
[56:54] alligators are being eaten by
the python, and it's a big
[56:57] problem. That's a perfect
example of something being
[57:00] thrown out of harmony because
someone is competing for
[57:03] everything that's not supposed
to be there.
[57:04] Absolutely, and we have this
problem. I remember there were
[57:08] these African killer bees.
[57:10] Yes,
[57:11] and they there's a sign was kill
the other bees, and it was just
[57:16] like Fauci saying in a lab they
were growing some killer bees or
[57:21] in another lab, but a couple of
bees got out, and all of a
[57:27] sudden, oops, they started
mating, and then coming from the
[57:31] far south, they started to
increase and increase. Why?
[57:35] There was no competitor in those
environments for those bees, and
[57:40] they were killing what the
honeybees? I go, and we have
[57:43] that problem. Say we round up,
and I go. Why is this a problem?
[57:47] The answer is, you will not have
a close to if you don't have
[57:51] honeybees. They pollinate the
plant.
[57:53] Absolutely,
[57:54] And therefore we are facing this
crisis of our. Oh, we can do
[57:59] what we want. We can make what
we want.
[58:02] And I'll I'll quote the the
great Jeff Goldblum from
[58:05] Jurassic Park. Just because you
can do something, and there's a
[58:09] loose quote, just because you
can do something doesn't mean
[58:11] you should do something, or even
think, should I do this? You
[58:15] never thought about it. You just
did it.
[58:17] Well, that's having dominion
over nature.
[58:21] And in Jurassic Park, it didn't
work out. Didn't work out well
[58:25] for everybody.
[58:26] Well, we're in that situation
now, and this is the whole
[58:28] issue: is civilizations have
come and gone. There was a Roman
[58:33] civilization, and it disappeared
[58:35] For 1000 years.
[58:36] And then guess what? What people
have to recognize: a
[58:39] civilization disappears, so
people don't die; the people
[58:44] change the way they are living
and move into another
[58:48] civilization,
[58:49] Like the Mayans.
[58:50] Yeah, everywhere history has
repeated this, and as
[58:53] Buckminster Fuller, the futurist
said, "Don't go in and fight the
[58:59] existing system. Step outside,
build a better system, and
[59:05] people will follow you. Well,
this is the process we're in
[59:09] right now. And again, reiterate
to me a very important thank you
[59:15] for letting me be on the
program. Why? Because you, with
[59:19] the offering that you're
providing the public with about
[59:22] health and life and all those
characters, are a fundamental
[59:26] way of what building a new
sustainable civilization. You
[59:31] are playing a godly important
role, and I'm happy to offer
[59:38] what I can.
[59:38] Well, I appreciate that, Bruce.
Thank you for those kind words.
[59:41] Now, I wanted to switch the
subject for a second. I wanted
[59:43] to see what you thought about
this. Do you believe that we've
[59:47] lived before, that we have a
soul that reincarnates?
[59:50] Yes, 100% I go, why? Is this for
40 years as a scientist I had no
[59:59] belief in spiritual. Oh, it was
genes and chromosomes and
[1:00:03] proteins, blah blah blah blah.
And then, when I was teaching
[1:00:07] immunology, a very important
fact came. I said, "What? We
[1:00:12] cannot exchange organs with each
other. I cannot put my kidney
[1:00:18] into your body. Why? Your immune
system. If I do the transplant,
[1:00:22] your immune system says myself,
and you can't put your organ
[1:00:26] into anybody else's body. Their
immune system, not self. Well,
[1:00:31] the immune system sees physical
things: viruses, bacteria,
[1:00:36] parasites, and then it hit me. I
said, wait a minute. If I put my
[1:00:41] organ into your body, and it's
interesting, because red blood
[1:00:46] cells are an exception. The you
can transplant red blood cells
[1:00:51] as long as you get the blood
type O A A/B. Okay, but the
[1:00:56] other cells have an identity
that the immune system can see,
[1:01:01] and it has to be physical, so I
started looking at it. I go, oh
[1:01:05] my God, on the surface of our
cells, with the exception of red
[1:01:10] blood cells, there are protein
receptors. Okay, well, on the
[1:01:16] skin of the cell, I said, well,
we're a cell enlarged. Look,
[1:01:22] eyes, ears, nose, taste,
touch-all this. Our receptors
[1:01:27] are built into the skin. What is
a receptor? Receiver of what?
[1:01:33] Environmental information. This
is how an organism can adapt to
[1:01:38] an environment because we can
experience it and then adjust
[1:01:42] our biology. Okay, so I go. No
two people are the same, and
[1:01:48] then I found on the surface of
our cells there are a set of
[1:01:53] protein receptors, receivers,
the equivalent of like antennas.
[1:01:58] Okay, and there are a set of
them. The name was misnamed, but
[1:02:03] now it's the appropriate name.
They're called self receptors.
[1:02:09] What does that mean? It's
identity. I go. Why? No two
[1:02:14] people. 8 billion humans. No two
people in the entire planet have
[1:02:20] the same set of these antennas.
If I take a cell and remove
[1:02:25] these antennas, there's no
identity. Let's say I have a
[1:02:29] liver cell, Bruce's liver cell.
I remove my cell receptors. Now
[1:02:35] it's just liver cell. I can
transplant that into a human. We
[1:02:39] all have liver cells. I remove
identity in my cell. I say,
[1:02:44] well, wait. I take Margaret's
liver cells, and she has her
[1:02:48] self receptors. I take my liver
cell. I remove my self
[1:02:53] receptors. Now it has no
identity. Then I say, but if I
[1:02:56] take Margaret's self receptors
and transplant them onto my
[1:03:01] cell, I can't put that my cell
back in my body because it's
[1:03:06] Margaret. But she can have my
cell. Okay, all of a sudden the
[1:03:10] pieces started falling. Said,
"Oh my God, the receptors are
[1:03:13] receivers. They receive an
energy field. Definition of
[1:03:19] field in physics: invisible
moving forces that influence the
[1:03:25] physical world, right? Spirit,
invisible moving forces that
[1:03:32] influence the physical world.
Quantum physics has recognized
[1:03:37] as an energy field that we
download through our receptors.
[1:03:43] No two people in the whole world
are downloading the same energy
[1:03:48] field. Imagine like the radio,
FM radio, and as you turn the
[1:03:54] dial, here's a station, then you
move it, and here's another
[1:03:57] station, and here's another.
Imagine there's a broad band of
[1:04:02] human biology, human energy.
Okay, each of us is downloading
[1:04:09] a station. No other person in
the world is downloading. It's
[1:04:13] my identity is picked up by my
self receptors. Only I am
[1:04:19] downloading this, so I'm going.
Oh wow, my identity's not built
[1:04:24] in. My identity is downloading
into my biology. Then comes the
[1:04:30] analogy. Imagine the body is a
TV set, and my self receptors
[1:04:38] are antennas downloading a
program, the Bruce Show. Hey,
[1:04:44] folks, it is. You're watching
the Bruce Show on this
[1:04:47] television. I go. So what? If
the television breaks, we say
[1:04:51] it's dead. You go absolutely.
It's not working. Dead. If the
[1:04:55] body dies, it's dead. It's not
working. If the television dies.
[1:05:00] We call it dead. The question
is, is the broadcast still
[1:05:04] there? Yes, of course. Broadcast
is not part of the TV. It's
[1:05:09] downloaded. So if the body dies,
the broadcast being picked up by
[1:05:15] your self-receptors still here.
It's here. Never went away. So
[1:05:20] it's here. And so what? An
embryo in the future shows up
[1:05:25] with the same set of self
receptors you have right now.
[1:05:31] You're back in a new TV, and the
point about that is called
[1:05:36] reincarnation. This is a reality
of of human life, we are
[1:05:42] immortal spirit fields. The
broadcast, and when we there's a
[1:05:49] TV with the receptors that can
download your back into the
[1:05:55] physical realm, and if you die,
broadcast is still there until
[1:05:59] it happens again. Okay, so have
we been here before? Many times.
[1:06:05] Yeah, we've all been here
before, and we'll be here again.
[1:06:09] And then all of a sudden, then
ask this question about: Well,
[1:06:14] does it make a difference if the
TV is male or female? I go, no,
[1:06:18] you're a broadcast. You are not
the TV. So I say you're still a
[1:06:23] broadcast. I say so, male or
female? Not relevant. Oh wait,
[1:06:26] does it make a difference if TV
is white, brown, black, red,
[1:06:31] yellow? I don't know. That's the
TV. You are the broadcast. Does
[1:06:37] it make a difference if the TV
is programmed to be Christian,
[1:06:42] Muslim, or Jewish, I say no.
That's the program. You are the
[1:06:47] broadcast. Does it make a
difference if it's American or
[1:06:54] Iranian? I go no. Those are the
TVs. We all come from the same
[1:07:01] broadcast. I say everything else
is separation. Everywhere you
[1:07:08] can separate gender, religion,
race, nationality. I say what
[1:07:14] has that done? It's taken the
organism of the human being,
[1:07:19] which is part of a family of 8
billion human beings, you're
[1:07:25] looking at the TV. You're
ignoring the broadcast. Why? We
[1:07:29] all came from the same
broadcast. We all came from the
[1:07:32] same source. The separation
[1:07:36] Is the illusion.
[1:07:37] Is the illusion and
disempowerment.
[1:07:41] Because you can't have people.
Well, it's the old story of the
[1:07:43] Tower of Babel. It's similar
because if we all spoke the same
[1:07:48] language, we could we could
cooperate a lot better.
[1:07:50] That was the whole idea. Why?
Okay, here's the point. My life
[1:07:57] is coming from my broadcast.
Okay, my broadcast is immortal.
[1:08:04] I cannot die because I'm the
broadcast, but I play through
[1:08:08] this body. I say, and so what's
the function of this body? I go,
[1:08:13] it's the manifestation
mechanism. I ask before, what do
[1:08:19] you want from your life? And you
say, "Well, I would like this. I
[1:08:22] would like that. I go, "That's a
thought. Without a body, there's
[1:08:27] no manifestation.
[1:08:28] You can't.
[1:08:30] So then I started pushing
together. Say, "Oh my God, we
[1:08:34] came here to take these bodies
and use them to what manifest
[1:08:42] our wishes and our desires? And
then I thought about. I said,
[1:08:48] "What is heaven? Well, you have
a different definition. I have a
[1:08:52] different. Everybody has their
own vision of what heaven's
[1:08:54] about. I say, "Yeah, but when
you come into a body, you can
[1:08:59] manifest it. But you, you're not
the body. You're a manifestor.
[1:09:04] Okay, let me give another word:
creator. You are creating your
[1:09:11] life experiences. Okay, and all
of a sudden I said, "Oh, biggest
[1:09:19] story that we got screwed. Well,
if you follow our rules,
[1:09:23] religion, and you follow them,
when you die, you can go to
[1:09:29] heaven. I said, "What's that?
Oh, that's where you create. I
[1:09:32] say, "No, you were born here.
This is where you create. When
[1:09:39] you die, you leave with the
memory, but you don't have the
[1:09:44] mechanism. So the whole idea is,
well, I'm waiting till I die. I
[1:09:49] go, well, you're wasting the
entire process because Earth is
[1:09:53] heaven, Earth is the site of
manifestation, and that if you
[1:09:59] live in harmony. There is a
harmony, then you have heaven on
[1:10:03] earth. I'll be honest. I've been
with my partner Margaret 32
[1:10:08] years. I have lived and through
right as this man have a life of
[1:10:14] heaven on earth. I have no
stress from the worldwide. I
[1:10:20] don't fix it. I take care of my
own backyard. That's the old
[1:10:23] hippie thing. Before you change
the world, take care of your own
[1:10:27] backyard. Yeah, because you're
so concerned about what Iranians
[1:10:30] are doing and Ukrainians and all
that, and your life is falling
[1:10:35] apart in your house,
[1:10:37] And you're worried about things
across the world.
[1:10:39] Yeah, and and it's funny because
I don't know how many years ago,
[1:10:43] not that long ago, really. I
came across something called the
[1:10:46] Serenity Prayer. You must never
heard of it. The Serenity Prayer
[1:10:52] is the things you can do
something about, and the things
[1:10:55] you cannot do something about.
And the prayer says, "God grant
[1:11:00] me the you know the power to
distinguish the ones I can do
[1:11:03] something about and from the
ones I can't, and then do what
[1:11:08] work on the ones you can do
something about, let go of the
[1:11:12] ones you cannot do something
about. Why? If I put my energy
[1:11:18] into helping the Ukrainians at
this point, I'm losing my life.
[1:11:24] Why? Energy is life, and the
more energy you give away that
[1:11:29] doesn't affect your own life is
lost life. What you want is the
[1:11:36] energy to maintain yourself in
the environment and with safety
[1:11:41] and all that. Okay, and the idea
is we're giving problems on the
[1:11:47] news that get our consciousness
like, but these problems you
[1:11:53] can't do anything about. But you
have now invested your energy,
[1:11:58] and now you're taking away from
what your own life. So the old
[1:12:05] hippie saying, "I'm taking care
of my backyard, and I'll do what
[1:12:10] I can if I have some influence.
But if I have no influence, I am
[1:12:15] not using my consciousness, my
body energy, my spirit to get
[1:12:21] involved, where I have no
ability to influence, okay, and
[1:12:27] if you do that, you recover an
amazing amount of life, and I
[1:12:32] love it because you mentioned
recovering the energy when you
[1:12:36] went on the juice fast. You were
recovering energy from what? Not
[1:12:41] digesting all that other stuff
you ate, you recover your own
[1:12:46] energy. Well, there are many
ways set your energy back
[1:12:50] because energy is life, and if
you give away your energy, you
[1:12:54] are unknowingly giving away your
life.
[1:12:58] And that's why they always say
you have to be strong yourself
[1:13:00] because you before you help,
like well, an airplane, like you
[1:13:03] must put oxygen on.
[1:13:04] I love that because that's a
great one. Put your arm first
[1:13:06] before you help anybody else.
Why? If you can't take care of
[1:13:09] yourself, how the hell are you
going to be helpful to somebody?
[1:13:12] breathe, how can you help
someone else breathe?
[1:13:14] This, this, and that. I love
that because I use that in my
[1:13:17] lecture. Why? Because it's the
true story, you have to take
[1:13:23] care of your health if you want
to be a participant in the game.
[1:13:27] When the body passes,
[1:13:29] Yes.
[1:13:31] What when that signal? What
happens to the signal the moment
[1:13:34] our body?
[1:13:35] There's a disconnect from that
receptor.
[1:13:37] Okay,
[1:13:38] And as a result, there's no
signal coming in. Then it's a
[1:13:41] breakdown of the machine because
it's an automatic machine with a
[1:13:46] subconscious program, but it
will break down without having
[1:13:50] the programmer in the machine at
that point. And then you know
[1:13:55] we're off on it. Here's a
quantum physics. Oh, we have
[1:14:00] quantum physics. That's that
special weird physics. I
[1:14:03] remember going for my PhD. I had
to take a physics course, and I
[1:14:09] was option take quantum physics
or take the conventional
[1:14:13] Newtonian physics. And sort of
like, I want to be a biologist.
[1:14:17] What the hell do I care? I don't
take the easy physics. Quantum
[1:14:20] physics was weird. Okay, quantum
physics is weird for people
[1:14:25] because if I say this, it sounds
like that's weird. I go, it's
[1:14:29] the absolute scientific reality
of the world we live in. Quantum
[1:14:34] physics is the most valid of all
the sciences on planet Earth,
[1:14:41] and I thought, what is it? All
of us grew up with the idea of a
[1:14:45] Newtonian physics, where the
universe has two realms: a
[1:14:49] physical material realm and an
invisible energy realm. And in
[1:14:54] Newtonian physics, if something
is made out of matter, it can
[1:14:58] only be affected by matter. If
something is made out of energy,
[1:15:02] it can only be affected by
energy. But matter and energy
[1:15:05] don't communicate. Well, hey,
medicine. There's a thing called
[1:15:10] mind and spirituality. Well,
those are energy fields.
[1:15:14] Medicine has never included,
included, or put in mind and
[1:15:21] spirit as part of a medical
aspect of a human life. When I
[1:15:26] was in a professor in medical
school, you never mentioned the
[1:15:30] word spirit or consciousness. It
wasn't relevant to the physical
[1:15:35] human body. And the fact is, now
quantum physics comes in in
[1:15:43] 1927. Said what was the
relevance? Well, they were
[1:15:46] taking the atom apart. Okay,
first it was like this giant
[1:15:50] sand grain. Then in 1895 we got
the image most people have been
[1:15:55] programmed with a nucleus with
protons and neutrons and
[1:15:59] satellites of electrons running
around the outside, so we got
[1:16:03] that model called the Bohr atom.
But they took that apart, and
[1:16:08] they found there was a smaller
thing-a truck, a clock-and then
[1:16:13] they took those apart. When they
got to the bottom, it wasn't
[1:16:18] physical. The basis of an atom
is an energy vortex, like a nano
[1:16:24] tornado. It's energy. Well, an
atom is made out of energy. I
[1:16:28] go, yeah. Everything is made out
of energy, whether it looks like
[1:16:33] matter or it's invisible. Okay.
So why I'm bringing this up is
[1:16:39] there's a quote profoundly
important. Okay, that quote is
[1:16:45] from Albert Einstein: "The
field, which is the invisible
[1:16:49] energy, we're in a field right
now. We're in your studio, but
[1:16:53] oh, the broadcast waves from TV
and radio, cell phones. We're in
[1:16:58] an aquarium of energy, a field.
The quote: The field is the sole
[1:17:06] governing agency of matter. The
invisible field shapes our
[1:17:13] experience in the material
world. Okay. Now, the first
[1:17:17] thing people say: Well, great,
Bruce. If energy is invisible,
[1:17:21] how the hell can I see you? And
then I give them the answer, and
[1:17:24] they always giggle, and I go,
"It's the answer. I say, "What
[1:17:28] is it? You can only see me when
the lights are on. Oh, no, no,
[1:17:36] no! You see, a light has photon
particles, and when a light
[1:17:41] source sends photons, and
whenever it hits an energy field
[1:17:44] like my body, the photons are
deflected back. So the light
[1:17:51] hitting me hits my body, but the
light bounces back into
[1:17:55] Into the eye of the receiver.
What's the point? Underneath a
[1:18:00] veneer of photons. The body's
invisible. I go, yeah. The new
[1:18:06] scans, CAT scan, MRI scan, PET
scan. They don't read matter;
[1:18:11] they read energy. I say, so
what? I say, look at a CAT scan.
[1:18:15] There are the bones. There are
the muscles. There are the
[1:18:18] organs. I say, you're looking at
energy fields. That that device
[1:18:23] doesn't really matter, so you
can see every part of the human
[1:18:26] body is an energy field. Back to
his quote, the field is the
[1:18:32] soul-going agency of master.
Aha! And then this part comes
[1:18:37] in, and it's like, oh yeah. I
said, what is it? The brain
[1:18:42] energizes in consciousness,
which is what an energy field. I
[1:18:48] can read your consciousness
wires on your head,
[1:18:52] electroencephalograph (EEG)
Well, that allows to believe my
[1:18:57] thoughts are in my head. Okay, a
newer device called MEG
[1:19:03] magnetoence reads brain
function. Yeah, but I said what?
[1:19:07] The probe is out here. I said
what? What does that mean? My
[1:19:13] thoughts are not in my head. I'm
broadcasting my thoughts as what
[1:19:20] energy fields. There. energy
field is the sole governing
[1:19:25] agency of master. Our thoughts
are manifesting all of this.
[1:19:31] It's from our thought, and my
thoughts manifest my version.
[1:19:36] Your thoughts manifest your
version.
[1:19:38] So then, what happens when two
come into one, like I interact
[1:19:43] with you. How does that work?
[1:19:44] That is such a perfect response
for this reason because I have a
[1:19:47] perfect answer, and the answer
is this: My thought is an energy
[1:19:52] field. There's an amplitude, a
power to my thought. My thought
[1:19:57] affects my field. It does not
affect your field. But if we
[1:20:01] share the same thought, then we
add up the amplitude of my
[1:20:07] thought, the amplitude of your
thought, and if 1000 people are
[1:20:10] sharing the same thought, then
it's 1000 times the amplitude of
[1:20:14] that energy field, or a million
times. I mean, then what? The
[1:20:19] power of that creative, you
know, feel of the sources that
[1:20:24] we commonly agree to, okay,
become so powerful they manifest
[1:20:30] the reality that we are
experiencing. A civilization is
[1:20:35] based on the thoughts that hold
that civilization together. When
[1:20:40] the thoughts of the people
change; the new thoughts
[1:20:44] generate a new civilization,
[1:20:46] And that's what's kind of
happening now with this
[1:20:47] awakening.
[1:20:48] Awakening says, "Yeah, the way
we were living, I thought I can
[1:20:52] do what I want. It's not going
to work. So we need a new
[1:20:56] thought, and that the more of us
that come together, the greater
[1:21:02] the amplitude of that field in
shaping the world. Now, just as
[1:21:07] a sidelight, because it's fun,
I'm broadcasting my thought. I
[1:21:11] said, "Yeah, but I'm receiving a
field. Well, the thought and the
[1:21:15] field are in the same
vibrational frequency. So what?
[1:21:20] My life experiences go back and
alter my source. It's called
[1:21:28] karma. You came in with a
frequency, but your life, as a
[1:21:34] result of you manifesting your
frequencies, is altering your
[1:21:38] source frequency. You change who
you are by living this life. If
[1:21:45] you have a negative life, you've
made a negative vibration in
[1:21:50] that field.
[1:21:51] But how about if you come back
into this life in a positive
[1:21:54] scenario, but you have bad
things happen to you or
[1:21:56] something along those lines?
[1:21:57] That's why we, when we come
back, I don't think there's
[1:21:59] chance. I think we ends up
saying, "I need to balance what
[1:22:04] I did in the past by this new
version, and if you understand
[1:22:08] it and manifest it, you can
cancel the karma, especially
[1:22:14] negative karma. Then what? Then
your life is based on what?
[1:22:18] Harmony and beauty. But if you
come in with a crooked karma,
[1:22:24] your life is not harming at all,
and so all of a sudden it says,
[1:22:28] "Wow, we came here to manifest
heaven on earth. If we do it in
[1:22:34] a negative way, we've altered
who we are as a source, and when
[1:22:40] we come back the next time
you're given an opportunity to
[1:22:45] compensate for the previous
programming and enhance
[1:22:49] yourself. And when you get back
into the beautiful energy of the
[1:22:55] spirit, then you're back in
harmony. And when you're back in
[1:22:59] harmony, then the idea you came
here to manifest heaven. You
[1:23:02] have it.
[1:23:04] What gives you the most hope
about our future as as a
[1:23:07] species?
[1:23:09] Well, there's a personal level.
My life was not in harmony. My
[1:23:14] life was a conventional working
hard, struggling. You know,
[1:23:19] trying to make it, and then
understanding. the knowledge
[1:23:24] power, and this is very
important, people. This is so
[1:23:28] important. You can get smart.
You can download. Oh yeah,
[1:23:33] that's how it works. Yeah, I
heard Bruce talk about this.
[1:23:37] Yeah, that makes great sense. I
go, that's in your conscious
[1:23:41] mind, but the conscious mind
only working 5% of the day is
[1:23:46] not your life. Your life is a
program. So here's an important
[1:23:51] point: you can educate that
conscious mind, be super super
[1:23:56] smart, but if you don't use that
knowledge in the day-to-day life
[1:24:03] experiences coming from the
programs, that knowledge in your
[1:24:08] head 100% useless. This is what
one question I don't think we
[1:24:11] ever answer. Come back to it.
How come I have great wishes to
[1:24:16] be like Bruce said? I could have
heaven on earth. I can have
[1:24:19] great harmony. I have this
reason in my head. My life
[1:24:22] doesn't look like this. I go
because of what I just said. The
[1:24:28] wishes 5% If you don't change
the program, I don't care how
[1:24:33] much your wishes are. You cannot
manifest your wishes because
[1:24:39] your programming is what's
manifesting your life. You have
[1:24:44] to change your thought. You have
to change your consciousness to
[1:24:49] accommodate a new belief system.
If you just keep it in your
[1:24:53] head, and I gave you a test, you
say, "Oh yeah, I can get 100.
[1:24:57] Bruce said all this. It was 100%
of what he said. I said, and how
[1:25:01] much of it is in your life?
Well, not really. I go, well,
[1:25:06] then guess what? All that
knowledge is useless. You must
[1:25:11] apply it. You heard about juice
fasting before you did juice
[1:25:17] fasting. You studied it. You
said, this is, this is good
[1:25:22] idea. I don't care how much you
study it. It didn't change your
[1:25:25] life until what you did the
juice fast.
[1:25:28] Same thing with everything.
[1:25:30] This is the whole idea. Yeah,
you know, let's educate people.
[1:25:34] I go, we can educate them.
There's a whole saying you can
[1:25:37] take a horse to water, but you
can't make it drink. I can
[1:25:41] educate you with this great
knowledge, but if you don't use
[1:25:45] it, it's not relevant to
anybody, including yourself, of
[1:25:48] course.
[1:25:48] So, is there anything in our
future that scares you? That
[1:25:53] scares me. That scares you about
what humanity is going. Where
[1:25:56] yeah, can go the option.
[1:25:58] If they, if it's the option to
wake up, okay. It's an option to
[1:26:04] take this knowledge and make a
life out of it. I call it an
[1:26:07] option because it's not
required, and if people don't
[1:26:12] change, the writing on the wall
is the end. It's coming, and
[1:26:17] it's not that far into the
future. So, as a negative side.
[1:26:22] Say, yeah, the potential is
negative, but the positive side
[1:26:25] is, hey, people are waking up
now. If I can get them not just
[1:26:30] to wake up, but use the
knowledge they're waking up to
[1:26:34] the new world. I know it exists.
Why? I live in that world. My
[1:26:40] life is not the way it was for
the first 40 years of my life.
[1:26:44] Agree.
[1:26:45] I live a. I love my life. I wake
up every day. I don't know
[1:26:49] what's going to happen, but I
also know I'm still mastering my
[1:26:55] response and how I'm going to
respond to this thing. And I
[1:26:59] wish people would understand
that because people as a group
[1:27:04] want the same thing.
[1:27:06] Absolutely, I you know the more
I travel around the world, I
[1:27:08] know you've traveled around the
world 1000 times already at this
[1:27:11] point in your career. I just I
just kind of came to
[1:27:14] realizations like everybody, no
matter where they are, they want
[1:27:17] the same thing. They want to be
loved. Yeah, they want safety
[1:27:19] for their family. They want to
follow their dreams. They all
[1:27:23] have it. Everyone has the same,
the same core wants: safety, a
[1:27:30] roof over their head, a job, a
job, a purpose, food in their
[1:27:34] belly, love from somebody else,
love from their farming,
[1:27:38] harmony. Everybody wants it.
When you find a group of people
[1:27:41] who don't have that. There's a
program in there.
[1:27:43] Oh yes,
[1:27:44] That's a really bad or negative
program. Like you don't believe
[1:27:48] what I believe, I must kill you.
As opposed to that's one
[1:27:50] program, or you don't believe
what I don't believe. Let's talk
[1:27:53] about it. I'd love to hear your
point of view, and maybe just
[1:27:56] maybe I might find something
interesting there, or maybe I
[1:27:59] could just live and let live.
[1:28:01] Yeah, it's interesting because
we talk about polar experiences,
[1:28:05] the opposites. Okay, what people
have to recognize, although
[1:28:10] things appear to be opposites,
they're on the same wavelength,
[1:28:14] so to speak, the same scale,
just one end versus the other
[1:28:17] end. Very interesting point. The
Arab Spring started in Tunisia
[1:28:24] when a man who was so oppressed
by the government to do his
[1:28:28] business with a food tribe
burned himself alive in front of
[1:28:33] the parliament.
[1:28:34] Yes,
[1:28:34] He said, "I can't live here. I
can't burn himself. They got rid
[1:28:39] of the dictator. Then they had a
problem. They had a parliament,
[1:28:43] and Parliament said, "Well, we
have to. What can we replace the
[1:28:46] district with? We need to make a
constitution. And for a year, it
[1:28:52] was polar versus polar in that
parliament. Argument, argument,
[1:28:57] argument, argument. Nobody got
anywhere. The next year, women
[1:29:03] got voted into the parliament
the first time. Sure, and a
[1:29:08] profound difference happened
with women. They said, "Look,
[1:29:12] you guys have been spending your
time fighting each other as
[1:29:15] pollers. This belief, that
belief. They said, "Why don't we
[1:29:19] start in the middle, where both
sides believe the same thing,
[1:29:25] rather than starting with both
sides don't believe, really
[1:29:29] believe about education. Yeah,
both sides we should have
[1:29:32] education. What about
healthcare? Yeah, both sides we
[1:29:34] should have health care. You
know, putting all that together,
[1:29:39] they created a constitution
based on the harmony that was
[1:29:45] the best is the best
constitution of any country in
[1:29:50] the entire world. It was such a
great constitution; they got a
[1:29:56] Nobel Prize for this. I said,
"What was the difference?" Get
[1:30:01] out of the polarity. Come to the
midground. The midground allows
[1:30:06] me to see your side and to see
your side at the same time, and
[1:30:12] that way I can pick from both
sides. Right now, polarized, and
[1:30:18] the idea is well, and my side is
against your side, and they're
[1:30:22] not going to come to an
agreement until we kill each
[1:30:25] other over which side. When it
was women who bring the harmony
[1:30:32] in, men bring the polarity, and
women bring the harmony.
[1:30:37] Is it because women like are
more cooperative by nature,
[1:30:40] nurturing by nature than men.
Men are more aggressive.
[1:30:44] If we had the time, I would love
to show you the the difference.
[1:30:48] Are two kinds of bonds, chemical
bonds that make up this
[1:30:51] universe.
[1:30:52] Okay.
[1:30:52] One is called a polar bond. The
other is called a nonpolar bond.
[1:30:58] A polar bond is like an arrow,
positive on one side, negative
[1:31:03] on the other side. A nonpolar
bond is like a benzene ring,
[1:31:07] like a ring. I say why? Because
the charge is running around the
[1:31:13] ring. There's no one side or the
other side. It's a harmony,
[1:31:18] balance. Okay. Fats are
nonpolar. protein is polar. I go
[1:31:27] before there were sexes. Both
things were required for a cell.
[1:31:33] The the nonpolar was the
digestive system and the
[1:31:38] metabolism and reproduction. The
polar was the skeleton, the
[1:31:44] support and the protection. When
differentiation occurred, the
[1:31:51] males acquire the job of the
polarity, the muscle which has a
[1:31:57] positive negative muscle, is the
arrow. Okay, so when a bunch of
[1:32:01] men come together, they line up
the arrows, positive, negative,
[1:32:05] positive, negative, positive,
negative. When women come
[1:32:08] together, they form that benzene
ring, a circle of harmony. And
[1:32:14] men, their original job was what
protection and support of the
[1:32:20] female, which allowed her to do
the reproduction and the
[1:32:25] vegetation, the women were the
goddesses of plants. Okay, the
[1:32:32] men were the powerful forces.
Okay, well, balance is when they
[1:32:37] come together. Imbalance is when
where we are right now, the men
[1:32:43] polarizing, the women have been
put off to the side. Okay, and
[1:32:47] the balance has to. The women
have to come back to just like
[1:32:50] continue to and temper the men's
polarity and return them to what
[1:32:57] is the job of a male support of
what the female? Why? Where you
[1:33:05] think vegetation is coming from
the plants? It's female,
[1:33:09] reproduction of female. So
physically support him and
[1:33:14] protect them. That is the
mission, but the mission is men
[1:33:20] win, women who are they? And
that's like, well, that's
[1:33:24] completely out of balance.
[1:33:26] That's been like that for
forever, but
[1:33:30] period where the women were in
charge.
[1:33:32] When was this?
[1:33:33] Oh, back to ancient Greece
before you know, just before
[1:33:37] ancient Greece.
[1:33:37] I mean, if you if you look at
the Spartans, the Spartans were
[1:33:39] the male, but the women were
renowned with their power.
[1:33:44] Yeah,
[1:33:44] As well.
[1:33:46] They were the ones that gave the
omens the future, the reading of
[1:33:50] what was going on.
[1:33:51] Oh, the oracle.
[1:33:52] The oracle, right? Yeah, the
oracle. Interesting. The U.S.
[1:33:56] evolved from the Age of
Enlightenment. I know 1700s. I
[1:34:03] say so what I say, go to Europe.
It was a caste system: upper
[1:34:08] class, lower class. The lower
class were slaves without the
[1:34:14] change, meaning if you want to
survive, you have to work for
[1:34:18] the baron, the upper class.
[1:34:20] Yeah, the king, the Queen,
right.
[1:34:21] Yeah, has it worked for them?
Okay, and the Age of
[1:34:25] Enlightenment spoke of a utopian
world where you can become
[1:34:30] whatever you want to be, not
based on your birth as lower
[1:34:34] class, upper. You can do what
you want. John Locke in England
[1:34:39] was one of the philosophers, and
this guy Rousseau, Jean
[1:34:44] Rousseau, in France, and
Rousseau wrote about the utopian
[1:34:48] world, where you can become what
you want to be. Harmony, regardless,
[1:34:54] Radical, radical.
[1:34:55] Where did he get his idea? He
studied American. Indians than
[1:35:01] Native Americans, and said,
"Look, they all live in harmony.
[1:35:06] The women and the men were in
harmony. When we created the
[1:35:11] U.S. government, founding
fathers Washington, Jefferson,
[1:35:15] Franklin, the Declaration of
Independence, and the
[1:35:19] Constitution were predicated on
the Native American government
[1:35:24] that was here when the Europeans
fled the slavery of Europe to
[1:35:29] the freedom of coming to North
America and be what they want to
[1:35:34] be, they even wore the buckskin
of the Indians. They did. They
[1:35:39] lived like the Native Americans.
Why harmony? Okay, and so the
[1:35:44] beautiful part about that is
women had a very important role.
[1:35:49] They had a house, a Congress,
the House of Representatives
[1:35:53] equivalent were representatives
from the different tribes. Sure.
[1:35:58] Yeah.
[1:35:58] The Senate, the highest house,
the one that makes the decision,
[1:36:02] War and Peace, was called the
Council of Grandmothers. It was
[1:36:08] only women who were in the
Senate. But when the Europeans
[1:36:13] came and copied,
[1:36:14] Can't have that.
[1:36:15] They couldn't have that. wasn't
in the world that women could be
[1:36:20] involved. So they just put more
men in the other house, and both
[1:36:25] houses now are filled with men
fighting each other. But the
[1:36:30] Native Americans, the women, and
something else-it was called the
[1:36:35] children's fire. And what that
was was here in the background
[1:36:40] were all the people in the
government of the Native
[1:36:44] Americans, but in the front of
them was a fire where the
[1:36:49] children sat, and the whole
point of it was that the
[1:36:53] government in the back was to
see the future of the child, to
[1:36:58] plan seven generations ahead of
what Supporting the children,
[1:37:03] and that children's fire made
sure that harmony prevailed for
[1:37:08] the children. We don't have
anything like that. We have the
[1:37:13] fight guys in the back fighting
over how much money and who's
[1:37:18] got the power and all that BS,
and we lost why the Europeans
[1:37:22] even came to North America.
[1:37:24] Is do you do you believe that
this? I think it's a sickness of
[1:37:29] greed and more, and I need to
accumulate more and more and
[1:37:33] more. Because at a certain
point, you know, Bruce, if you
[1:37:36] make a certain amount of money,
you're you're done. You can live
[1:37:41] a comfortable life, and if you
make a little bit more, maybe
[1:37:45] your generations-if you're smart
with your money-generations
[1:37:49] behind you will be fine. But
then there's these people who
[1:37:53] are just obsessed with how much
money they're making.
[1:37:56] Money, money is power. Money is
tangible energy. It's physical.
[1:38:01] If I have money, I can buy it. I
can get it.
[1:38:05] I can control it.
[1:38:05] I can control it, and that's
Darwinian. The theorist says
[1:38:11] power. I said, well, what in our
world is power? Money. That
[1:38:15] drives the 1% to get as much
money as they can get. I go, how
[1:38:20] many trillion dollars do you
need? And the idea was,
[1:38:25] according to your theory,
there's no limit. The theory is
[1:38:28] make as much as you can. And
here's the problem, my friends:
[1:38:32] there is no morality in
Darwinian theory. What I mean,
[1:38:39] whatever it takes to win, I
don't care how you do it. You
[1:38:43] mean 1000 people will suffer if
I do this, but I win. Well,
[1:38:48] those 1000 are not fit.
[1:38:52] There's a story that has to be
told about those 1000.
[1:38:55] Yeah, about the survival of the
fittest. I'm the fittest. Why I
[1:38:59] have the money? I don't care
about them. They're not fit,
[1:39:02] But but Bruce, don't you believe
that inherently humanity comes
[1:39:05] in with an empathy?
[1:39:07] 100%
[1:39:08] But that's been blocked out.
[1:39:09] Yeah, but that's programming.
This child is born in love. A
[1:39:14] child doesn't have any idea
other than harmony. I show a
[1:39:19] video. It's really interesting.
It's an infant. I'm infant
[1:39:24] infant, infant, and there's this
little bit of a puppet show,
[1:39:29] more or less, and it has a
circle rolling to go up a hill,
[1:39:34] and there are two other players.
There's a square and a triangle,
[1:39:40] so the rolling one's trying to
go up the hill and falling back
[1:39:45] and dries and keeps going until
it gets to the top. Then they
[1:39:50] introduce the triangle, and the
triangle comes in as the rolling
[1:39:55] circle is trying to go up. The
triangle is pushing to help it
[1:40:01] get to the top. Okay. The next
thing is a square. The square is
[1:40:06] at the top, and as the searcher
is trying to get up, the square
[1:40:11] pushes it down. Now the infant,
after seeing this a number of
[1:40:16] times, the person running the
show comes out with a tray, and
[1:40:22] on it is a triangle and a
square, and it shows it to the
[1:40:26] infant. The infant picks up the
triangle and will not pick up
[1:40:31] the square. Why? The triangle
was the one that helped. The
[1:40:36] square was the one that pushed
the circle down the hill, and
[1:40:41] the infant sees that and already
makes his decision. The triangle
[1:40:47] is friendly. The square is not.
At an infant level, the child
[1:40:52] was born with harmony is better
than the square at that moment.
[1:40:57] The child is born with this.
[1:41:00] It's all programming.
[1:41:01] But then they're in a program in
the family, and I say, "Well,
[1:41:05] how much of that family is dog
winning? I say, "All of them. I
[1:41:10] said, "How much of them are so
dependent on the competition
[1:41:14] that you know killing somebody?
That's a way of life. I'm sorry,
[1:41:19] that guy was challenging my
survival. I do what I need to.
[1:41:23] They program the love out of
that child.
[1:41:26] Let me ask you this, Bruce: What
does a healed civilization look
[1:41:30] like? Not only spiritually, but
biologically as well.
[1:41:35] A garden. It's a garden where
everybody is in harmony. We love
[1:41:40] each other, help each other,
support each other. There's
[1:41:44] nobody living on the street.
There's nobody, you know,
[1:41:49] starving in that world. That you
know, humans are supposed to be
[1:41:58] mammals, which by definition
means nurturer, nurturing.
[1:42:04] taking care. I give you example
in the lecture. I talk about
[1:42:08] dolphins. Dolphins are mammoths.
They have to breathe air, even
[1:42:12] though they're underwater. They
have to come up and breathe air.
[1:42:16] If a dolphin gets sick, the
other dolphins in that pod that
[1:42:21] they're in will lift up the sick
one, bring it to the surface so
[1:42:26] it can breathe, and then let it
back down again. That is
[1:42:31] nurturing. That is taking care.
We are designed to be nurturers,
[1:42:38] but the program has taken away
where screw that one can't
[1:42:41] breathe. That's his problem. I I
can breathe. Screw them. It's
[1:42:44] like that's not nurturing.
That's dog reading. This is why
[1:42:50] I finally had to write the book
because nature said you have the
[1:42:55] answer. You've had it for 20
years.
[1:42:59] What's up, man?
[1:43:01] So that's why the book is called
Beyond Darwin, because it's
[1:43:05] Darwin theory that puts us in
this position that acknowledges.
[1:43:10] Well, that's okay. It's based on
competition, survival of the
[1:43:14] fittest. A loser not fit enough,
and that's why they're a loser.
[1:43:18] So don't worry about losers.
[1:43:20] So how's the book being
received?
[1:43:23] First week out, New York Times
bestseller.
[1:43:26] That's beautiful.
[1:43:27] It was wonderful. I I want this,
and you say what? Because I want
[1:43:32] to sell books. I say no. That's
not even the mission. The
[1:43:36] mission was, I want to wake
people up. Now, biology belief
[1:43:41] has been around the world, sold
millions of copies. Okay, but
[1:43:45] that's a community of people who
are awakening to belief in
[1:43:50] biology. There's a large
population that are sleepwalking
[1:43:55] through this thing, buying the
show on TV, buying the ad on TV,
[1:44:00] buying the news and just
sleepwalking. I was thankful for
[1:44:04] the New York Times bestseller
list on my book because it opens
[1:44:09] it up to that community instead
of the same one I keep talking
[1:44:14] to. I'm talking to the converted
choir. I'm talking to the. They
[1:44:19] don't really know what I'm
talking about. It's the other
[1:44:23] ones I want to wake up.
[1:44:25] That's exactly what.
[1:44:26] And so the New York Times
bestseller accommodation for me.
[1:44:32] That's awesome.
[1:44:32] Opens up this to people who will
not normally read that book.
[1:44:38] Bruce, where can people find out
more about you and the amazing
[1:44:40] work you're doing,
[1:44:41] I love it. So simple, ready? brucelipton.com.
[1:44:46] It's good. It's good marketing.
Has a zing to it. Very nice.
[1:44:49] It has everything we're talking
about. It has written articles.
[1:44:52] It has audio presentation. We'll
have this podcast as well as
[1:44:57] other video podcasts. Why? It's
a resource. Space, all of it is
[1:45:02] free. Download for free, all of
it. Why? What good is if I'm the
[1:45:07] only guy who is saying I know
how to live in harmony, and you
[1:45:12] don't? So it's like, if you live
in harmony, my life is better,
[1:45:18] and that is why I want to be
surrounded by people who live in
[1:45:23] harmony, because on the outside
the disharmony people are far
[1:45:27] away. They're not affecting me.
The bigger the circle, the more
[1:45:32] harmony. And what would be we've
been talking about was the
[1:45:36] destination. When we all wake up
as a part of the garden where
[1:45:41] the idea is to be nurturers,
take care of each other, take
[1:45:46] care of the garden, and wake up
and do what enjoy the life. I
[1:45:53] frequently ask people. I say,
when was the last time you saw a
[1:45:57] sunset? Most people can't even
remember. And I go, I ask that
[1:46:03] because I lived in the Caribbean
for a number of years.
[1:46:06] Beautiful, isn't it?
[1:46:07] Oh my God!
[1:46:08] That water.
[1:46:09] It was. It was. It was. I would
love to go back. Yeah. And the
[1:46:13] point about at sunset, almost
everybody comes out on the beach.
[1:46:18] Of course.
[1:46:19] And they're just quiet. They
just sit there in contemplation.
[1:46:24] They watch the sun go down, and
they leave in harmony and they
[1:46:29] leave in peace. And this is what
the sunset always reminds me
[1:46:34] of-a moment of quietness. Sit
there, enjoy the beauty of the
[1:46:41] sunset, it's peace and harmony
with everybody. It's like wow,
[1:46:49] that is a destination,
[1:46:52] My friend. It has been such a
pleasure having this
[1:46:54] conversation with you. I know
it's going to throw ripples out
[1:46:57] into the universe, which I hope
it does. And I appreciate
[1:47:00] everything you're doing to help
awaken the planet, my friend. So
[1:47:03] thank you so much. I cannot wait
for our next conversation. So
[1:47:06] appreciate you again.
[1:47:07] So happy to be here with the
deepest appreciation of offering
[1:47:12] a platform to provide some
knowledge, some empowerment. I
[1:47:17] want people to have their power.
I trust them more than the
[1:47:22] government and the corporations
[1:47:25] And the and the religions.
[1:47:28] Let's always go to the beach and
watch the sun.
[1:47:31] Thank you, my friend.
[1:47:32] Thank you so much for this
opportunity. Deepest appreciation.
[1:47:38] We are living in unprecedented
times. We're seeing changes on
[1:47:41] levels that have never really
been seen before. We have been
[1:47:45] conditioned out of who we really
are. Are we really free?
[1:47:51] What questions you ask, your
life becomes an answer to it.
[1:47:55] The
[1:47:56] physical world is not the
highest reality, but the soul
[1:48:00] never dies. The soul is eternal.
[1:48:02] You can heal and never forget
it.
[1:48:05] Like it or not, you've been
chosen. Who chose me?
[1:48:11] Everyone gets a second chance.
But when spirit has a message to
[1:48:15] come through, I give it with
love.
[1:48:23] We love you.
[1:48:34] That would be amazing.
[1:48:38] We need to shift into a new
mindset.
[1:48:40] Come to rediscover yourself as
you really are, infinite-a
[1:48:44] completely integrated life: the
physical body, the mind, the
[1:48:48] emotions, and of course, the
spirit.