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Inspiration

Why Buddhism Rarely Says "Forgiveness" and Why It Matters

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BSV Dhamma Talks
Oct 18, 2026
8 min read

From BSV Dhamma Talks

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Before any teaching begins, the room has already moved through a ritual of asking and receiving. The audience repeats the three refuges line by line, to the Buddha, the Dhamma and the Sangha, three times over, then the five training rules, then the recollections of the Buddha, Dhamma and Sangha in English, and finally the Metta Sutta, the old discourse on loving-kindness. Only then does Ajahn Nissarano, the Australian monk who ordained under Ajahn Brahm twenty-two years ago and now serves as senior monastic at Newbury Buddhist Monastery, take up the subject. It is a warm October morning in Melbourne, he remarks, and summer seems to have arrived. His topic is forgiveness, and he opens with a claim that many listeners will not expect: if you read the sutras, the word hardly appears at all. This live Dhamma talk, published by the BSV Dhamma Talks channel on 18 October 2026, is an unhurried exploration of that puzzle, and of the practical question underneath it: how does a person actually let go of hurt, starting with themselves?

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Is forgiveness really a Buddhist idea at all?

The talk begins with a question he was asked directly. If the Buddha seldom used the word forgiveness in the sutras, is the concept part of Buddhist teaching? Ajahn Nissarano's answer is an emphatic yes, and he locates the evidence in monastic life rather than in the discourses. The monks' rules, the Vinaya, contain a great deal on the subject. Anyone who has heard the chanting knows that monks ask forgiveness of one another when they part, for anything done through body, speech or mind that offended or hurt the other person, whether it was intended or not. Traditional Buddhist countries have a long custom of this practice too.

He recalls an exchange in Sri Lanka, years earlier. Someone told him that forgiveness was not part of Buddhism and was really a Christian idea, a view he says many people hold. His reply was simple: "No, no, it isn't. It's in Buddhism." He also points to a chant in which practitioners ask forgiveness of the Buddha, Dhamma and Sangha, which he describes as a very common one. The concept, in other words, is present everywhere in the practice. What is absent is the word as a headline doctrine in the discourses.

Why would the Buddha avoid the word forgiveness?

He begins to offer his explanation, though the portion of the talk available for this article breaks off before he finishes it. The line of thought seems to be that the Buddha was addressing something deeper than a transaction in which one person pardons another. The useful distinction for a listener is between forgiveness as a verdict handed from one person to another and the inner release that makes the verdict almost beside the point.

He anchors this in a verse he recites and asks the audience to name. It runs: "Hatred never ends through hatred, by non-hate alone does it end. This is an ancient truth." He follows it with a line about recognising our mortality: "For those who realize this, quarrels end." (18:30 in the video.) The argument is that the cycle of grievance is broken from the inside. Non-hate is not a favour granted to the offender; it is a change in the one who was carrying the hatred. Read this way, the Buddha's emphasis on ending hatred does the work that the English word forgiveness often promises, without the implication that the wronged party must first be moved by the wrongdoer's remorse.

"Usually the most important person to forgive ourselves actually, it's generally ourselves. If we can forgive ourselves, we'll probably be okay about forgiving others, it's much easier."

Ajahn Nissarano, live Dhamma talk, BSV Dhamma Talks, 18 October 2026 (around 23:38)

Why start with forgiving yourself?

This is the hinge of the talk, and it is the least intuitive move he makes. Most people assume that forgiveness is a gift we extend to others, and that our own failings are a separate matter. Ajahn Nissarano reverses the order. In his telling, the self is the first and most common place where resentment settles. We are hard on ourselves for not being perfect, and that harshness colours how we meet everyone else.

The logic is worth spelling out for anyone who has tried to forgive a colleague, a parent or an ex-partner while still replaying their own mistakes. If the inner voice keeps a ledger of your faults, you have no spare generosity for someone else's. Forgiving yourself does not mean excusing what you did. It means refusing to make your own wrongdoing the permanent centre of your mind. Once that ledger loosens, the offences of others can be seen as events rather than as an identity you must keep defending. This is why he says the work of forgiveness is easier after it has been practised on oneself.

What does the talk say about distorted perception?

Around the 36-minute mark he reaches for a Pali term, vipallasa, and frames it around the power that certain perceptions have over us. He stresses the way our minds build a picture of other people from what they say and do, then mistake that picture for the person. The excerpt available here gives only the setup, not his full definition, so it would be unwise to claim more than that. But the direction is clear, and it connects to the rest of the talk. A grudge is rarely a simple response to a single act. It is a perception that keeps being reinforced, and it is that perception, more than the original hurt, that needs examining.

This is also where his remarks on understanding the other person's state of mind come in. He asks listeners to consider what was happening inside someone who caused harm, and he suggests that we rarely see this from the inside. The point is not to excuse behaviour but to loosen the rigidity with which we hold the story.

How does reflection turn into forgiveness?

Later in the talk, around 70 minutes in, he describes the power of reflection as a practice. Reflection, as he uses the idea, is the deliberate looking at a hurt in order to see it clearly rather than to keep feeding it. The sequence he sketches moves from acknowledging what happened, through a shift in how we hold it, toward a letting go. The transcript preserves fragments of this argument, including his remark that the Buddha's teaching is fundamentally about how the mind relates to experience, rather than about moral bookkeeping between people.

That reframing answers the opening question. If forgiveness were only a social act, the suttas would need a word for it. Because the Buddha's concern is the mind that suffers, the teaching works on the mind's habits, and forgiveness appears as a consequence of seeing those habits clearly. The talk also touches on the mental quality of joy in other people's good qualities, which appears in the same stretch of teaching, around 21 minutes in. Taken together, these suggest a picture in which generosity toward others and freedom from grievance grow from the same root.

What is the practical instruction for a listener?

Ajahn Nissarano keeps returning to the difference between direct and indirect forgiveness. Monks ask forgiveness person to person, face to face, and he emphasises the directness of that encounter. His point is that real forgiveness does not go through a third party, a ritual formula or a general announcement. It happens between the people involved, or, when that is impossible, within one's own mind.

He stresses doing it directly, person to person, and reflecting on the state of mind of the person who caused harm.

Paraphrase of the talk's middle section, Ajahn Nissarano, BSV Dhamma Talks, 18 October 2026 (around 47:49)

For a listener, this translates into a simple sequence. Notice the hurt without rehearsing it. Look at your own part in the story, without self-punishment. Consider the state of mind behind the other person's words or actions, without assuming you know all of it. Then let the grip loosen, even partially. None of these steps requires agreement from the person who hurt you, which is precisely why the Buddhist framing is so practical.

What is worth watching in the full talk?

The full recording runs about an hour and twenty-seven minutes, and this article draws on its opening and several timestamped sections rather than every minute. The closing stretch includes an announcement about an upcoming retreat, which the transcript records as running from 30 October to 4 November (around 85:15). For listeners who want the full argument, the complete talk is the best source, and the sections on reflection and on self-forgiveness repay repeated listening.

Where to go from here

Start by listening to the talk's opening verse at about 18 minutes, then return to the Metta Sutta chant at the beginning, which frames the whole teaching in loving-kindness. Next, try the sequence described above on a single, small grievance: acknowledge it, look at your own contribution, consider the other person's state of mind, and notice what loosens. If you want to practise with others, BSV describes its East Malvern centre in Melbourne as hosting meditation programs for members and for children, teenagers and adults, and its channel carries further Dhamma talks. Most of all, take Ajahn Nissarano's first advice seriously: begin with yourself.

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[2:00] Mhm.

[3:55] >> Mhm.

[5:50] >> Mhm.

[7:39] >> Okay.

[7:40] >> Good morning, Archangel.

[7:41] >> Good morning, sweetie.

[7:42] >> everyone.

[7:43] >> So, is it an adventure isn't the

[7:45] batteries run out?

[7:46] >> [laughter]

[7:46] >> The battery just died right

[7:48] right on time. It was blinking.

[7:50] Um welcome also to our online audience

[7:53] on YouTube. And this morning we have

[7:55] Ajahn Nisabho. Ajahn Nisabho is the uh

[7:57] senior

[7:59] uh senior bhikkhu at our monastery at at

[8:02] our monastery in Newbury. So, thank you

[8:04] Ajahn for coming in to offer the talk

[8:05] today and also for tomorrow coming in

[8:07] for tomorrow's meditation.

[8:09] >> Right.

[8:09] >> So, I'll now pass it to Savitri to

[8:11] request the refuges and the precepts and

[8:13] we can all join in for this, okay? Thank

[8:15] you.

[8:23] >> I'll join in, too.

[8:25] >> [laughter]

[8:29] >> Venerable, we request three refuges and

[8:33] the five training rules.

[8:35] For the second time, venerable, we

[8:38] request three refuges and the five

[8:40] training rules.

[8:42] For [snorts] the third time, venerable,

[8:44] we request three refuges and the five

[8:47] training rules.

[8:48] >> Sadhu. Sadhu. Sadhu. And now I'll do the

[8:51] homage three times and then if you'd

[8:53] like to repeat it after after me.

[8:56] Homage to the blessed, noble, and

[9:00] perfectly enlightened one. Homage to the

[9:04] blessed, noble, and perfectly

[9:08] enlightened one. Homage to the blessed,

[9:12] noble, and perfectly enlightened one.

[9:18] >> Homage to the blessed,

[9:20] noble,

[9:21] and perfectly

[9:24] enlightened one.

[9:24] Homage to the blessed,

[9:27] noble,

[9:29] and perfectly

[9:30] enlightened one.

[9:31] Homage to the

[9:33] blessed,

[9:34] noble,

[9:34] and perfectly

[9:37] enlightened one.

[9:37] >> Sadhu. Sadhu. And then for the refuges,

[9:40] we

[9:40] >> them line by line.

[9:42] And for the precepts, too, or the

[9:44] training rules. To the Buddha, I go for

[9:48] refuge.

[9:50] >> To the Buddha, I go

[9:52] for refuge.

[9:53] >> To the Dhamma, I go for refuge.

[9:57] >> To the

[9:58] Dhamma, I go

[10:00] for refuge.

[10:01] >> To the Sangha, I go for refuge.

[10:05] >> To the

[10:06] Sangha, I go

[10:08] for refuge.

[10:08] >> For the second time, to the Buddha, I go

[10:12] for refuge.

[10:14] >> For the second time,

[10:16] to the Buddha,

[10:17] I go

[10:18] >> For the second time, to the Dhamma, I go

[10:22] for refuge.

[10:24] >> For the second time,

[10:27] to the Dhamma,

[10:28] I go

[10:29] >> For the second time, to the Sangha, I go

[10:33] for refuge.

[10:34] >> For the second time,

[10:37] to the Sangha,

[10:38] I go for

[10:40] >> For the third time, to the Buddha, I go

[10:43] for refuge.

[10:45] >> For the

[10:46] third time,

[10:47] to the Buddha,

[10:48] I go

[10:49] for refuge.

[10:50] >> For the third time, to the Dhamma, I go

[10:54] for refuge.

[10:56] >> For the

[10:57] third time, to the Dhamma,

[10:59] I go

[11:00] for

[11:00] >> For the third time, to the Sangha, I go

[11:04] for refuge.

[11:06] >> For the

[11:07] third time, to the Sangha,

[11:09] I go

[11:10] for a

[11:11] >> And now for the five training rules. I

[11:14] undertake the training rule to refrain

[11:18] from killing living beings.

[11:21] >> I undertake

[11:22] the training rule

[11:23] to refrain from killing living

[11:25] beings.

[11:26] >> I undertake the training rule to refrain

[11:30] from stealing.

[11:32] >> I undertake

[11:33] the training rule

[11:34] to refrain from

[11:37] I undertake the training rule to refrain

[11:40] from sexual misconduct.

[11:48] I undertake the training rule to refrain

[11:52] from lying.

[11:58] I undertake the training rule to refrain

[12:01] from alcohol and drugs which lead to

[12:06] carelessness.

[12:16] Through virtue, these five training

[12:19] rules lead to happiness,

[12:23] lead to good fortune, lead to

[12:27] liberation.

[12:29] Therefore, let them be purified.

[12:34] Sadhu, sadhu, sadhu. And now we can

[12:37] chant together the recollection of the

[12:38] Buddha, Dhamma, and Sangha in English

[12:41] and then the Metta Sutta as well.

[12:45] The Blessed One is the Arahant,

[12:49] the perfectly enlightened one,

[12:53] is impeccable in conduct and

[12:56] understanding,

[12:58] the accomplished one, the knower of the

[13:02] worlds. He trains perfectly those who

[13:06] wish to be trained. He is teacher of

[13:10] devas and humans. He is awake and holy.

[13:17] The Dhamma is well expounded by the

[13:20] Blessed One,

[13:22] apparent here and now, timeless,

[13:27] encouraging investigation

[13:31] leading inwards to be personally

[13:34] experienced by the wise.

[13:38] They are the blessed one's disciples

[13:42] who are practicing well, who are

[13:45] practicing directly,

[13:48] who are practicing insightfully,

[13:52] who are practicing

[13:55] integrity.

[13:56] That is the four pairs, the eight kinds

[14:00] of noble beings. These are the blessed

[14:05] one's disciples.

[14:07] Such ones are worthy of gifts,

[14:11] worthy of hospitality,

[14:13] worthy of offerings, worthy of respect.

[14:19] They are the unsurpassed field of merit

[14:23] for the world. Sadhu, sadhu, sadhu. Now

[14:25] then, now for the Metta Sutta, always

[14:28] good.

[14:29] That this is what should be done

[14:33] by one who is skilled in goodness and

[14:38] who knows the path of peace. Let them be

[14:42] able and upright, straightforward and

[14:47] gentle in speech, humble and not

[14:50] conceited,

[14:52] contented and easily satisfied,

[14:57] not busy with duties and frugal in their

[15:02] ways, peaceful and calm and wise and

[15:07] skillful,

[15:08] not proud or demanding in nature.

[15:13] Let them not do the slightest thing that

[15:18] the wise would later reprove,

[15:22] wishing in gladness and in safety,

[15:26] may all beings be happy. Whatever living

[15:32] beings there may be,

[15:34] whether they are weak or strong, all

[15:38] meeting none,

[15:40] the great or the mighty, medium, short,

[15:45] or small, the seen and the unseen, those

[15:51] living near and far away,

[15:54] those born and to be born, may all

[15:59] beings be happy.

[16:02] Let none deceive another

[16:06] or despise any being in any state. Let

[16:11] none through anger or ill will wish harm

[16:16] upon another.

[16:19] Even as a mother protects with her life

[16:24] her child, her only child, so with a

[16:29] boundless heart should one cherish all

[16:33] living beings, radiating

[16:37] kindness

[16:39] over the entire world, spreading upwards

[16:44] to the skies and downwards to the

[16:47] depths, outwards and unbounded,

[16:52] freed from hatred and ill will.

[16:56] Whether standing or walking, seated or

[17:00] lying down, free from drowsiness,

[17:05] one should sustain this recollection.

[17:09] This is said to be the sublime abiding.

[17:15] By not holding to wrong views, the

[17:19] pure-hearted

[17:20] one having clarity of vision,

[17:25] being freed from all sense desires,

[17:29] is not born again into this world.

[17:34] Sadhu, sadhu, sadhu.

[17:37] So, I'm great. So, good morning to

[17:39] everybody and it's a here in Melbourne,

[17:43] it's a very nice warm day today, which

[17:45] is

[17:46] great. I think summer has arrived. So,

[17:50] today I thought I would talk about

[17:51] something that's is always topical

[17:55] uh for all of us and it's a very good

[17:57] thing to develop and that's forgiveness

[18:00] and how we can forgive others, but

[18:04] usually the the most important person to

[18:07] forgive

[18:09] ourselves actually, it's generally

[18:11] ourselves. If we can forgive ourselves,

[18:13] we'll probably be okay about forgiving

[18:16] others, it's much easier.

[18:18] So, I'll just start with a a verse from

[18:21] well-known verse, I think people will

[18:23] recognize it immediately.

[18:25] I'll ask you where it's from.

[18:28] There we are.

[18:30] Hatred never ends through hatred, by

[18:33] non-hate alone does it end. This is an

[18:38] ancient truth. But many do not realize

[18:43] that we here must die. For those who

[18:47] realize this, quarrels end. Sadhu,

[18:51] sadhu, sadhu. There we are.

[18:54] So, the reason for this talk was

[18:57] somebody asked me recently, they said to

[19:00] me that, you know, if you look at the

[19:02] sūtras, if you read the sūtras, you

[19:04] don't see the word forgiveness there

[19:06] much at all really. The Buddha doesn't

[19:09] talk about using this word forgiveness.

[19:12] And they and they said, "Well, you know,

[19:15] is

[19:16] is it in the Buddhist teachings then at

[19:18] all, this

[19:19] idea of forgiveness?"

[19:21] And of course, it's in the Vinaya, the

[19:24] monks' rules, a lot. Um anyone that

[19:28] knows, you know, the the chanting the

[19:30] monks do, we're always asking for

[19:33] forgiveness from

[19:35] when we particularly when we leave

[19:37] actually from each other for anything

[19:40] we've done through body, speech, and

[19:42] mind that's been offensive or upset or

[19:45] hurt that person, whether we've done it

[19:48] deliberately or not. And of course, we

[19:50] have a very big tradition even in

[19:52] traditional Buddhist countries. I

[19:53] remember when I was in Sri Lanka many

[19:56] years ago I was quite a few years ago

[19:58] this happened. Somebody said to me,

[20:00] "This forgiveness, we we don't have it

[20:02] in Buddhism. It is a Christian idea."

[20:05] And that's what a lot of people thought.

[20:07] And I said, "No, no, it isn't. It's in

[20:10] Buddhism."

[20:11] Um and I'll I'll go into why I think the

[20:14] Buddha doesn't use the word forgiveness,

[20:17] doesn't use that concept very much as

[20:20] just on its own. And I said, you know,

[20:23] with we immediately for traditional

[20:26] Buddhists, we have this chant of asking

[20:29] for forgiveness from the Buddha, Dharma,

[20:31] and Sangha. And this is quite a

[20:34] quite a very very common one. So, we

[20:36] have this notion of forgiveness.

[20:39] The reason I think the Buddha doesn't

[20:41] use the word forgiveness is because he's

[20:44] dealing with the underlying things that

[20:47] make it difficult to forgive. If we

[20:50] address those qualities of the mind,

[20:53] then forgiveness is very natural. If we

[20:56] have metta, if we have we have

[20:59] compassion,

[21:01] if we have um

[21:03] joy for other people's good qualities

[21:05] and success, if we have acceptance,

[21:08] equanimity of ourselves and others, then

[21:11] forgiveness will flow from it. It's

[21:14] also, I think, you know, when some

[21:16] people when we use this word

[21:18] forgiveness, it's like I I think of the

[21:21] same example with happiness. Somebody

[21:24] says "Do be happy." Do you remember that

[21:26] song? Just be happy.

[21:28] Can you do it like that?

[21:31] Not really. You just can't say "I want

[21:34] to be happy." And then we feel

[21:36] happiness. What do we have to do?

[21:39] We have to develop the causes for being

[21:41] happy. We have to develop the causes for

[21:44] forgiveness. So, this is where the

[21:46] Buddha is more focused when the whole of

[21:49] Buddhism focused on the mind, where

[21:52] these

[21:54] feelings, where these defilements come

[21:56] from, but also where these good

[21:57] qualities come from, where wisdom comes

[22:01] from, where liberation comes from.

[22:04] Uh so, this is this is where why I I

[22:07] think forgiveness is not so much

[22:09] mentioned by the Buddha as such.

[22:12] Um but uh

[22:14] I think everybody's familiar with

[22:16] forgiveness, the idea of forgiveness,

[22:19] and and the feeling of forgiveness.

[22:26] And really, one of the most important

[22:28] things about forgiveness, isn't it, for

[22:31] all of us is it allows us to let go of

[22:34] of the past, especially, you know, those

[22:37] things that were difficult for us,

[22:39] either

[22:40] um you know, what from other people or

[22:42] even from from ourselves, letting go of

[22:45] all these past hurts, and not hanging on

[22:49] to them.

[22:50] Um I'll mention in a minute. Um I think

[22:52] many of us know of people, we may have

[22:55] done it ourselves, where we

[22:58] hang on to grudges. Do you Do you know

[23:01] people that have had grudges for 20

[23:03] years, 30 years, 40 years, whole of

[23:06] their lives, hanging on to this

[23:08] resentment, hanging on, remembering it,

[23:11] uh replaying it in their minds. And

[23:14] often, you see people who and I I meet

[23:17] people who who keep bringing up these

[23:19] past hurts and they tend to become

[23:22] bitter about it. The We In English, we

[23:26] have the saying bitter and twisted.

[23:28] And this is the tendency when we hang on

[23:30] to this these past hurts and unable to

[23:34] forgive. And of course, we can forgive

[23:38] ourselves for not being perfect and we

[23:41] can forgive others for not being

[23:43] perfect. And the the difficult one is to

[23:47] forgive life for not being perfect. And

[23:51] of course, this is the essence of the

[23:52] four noble truths that life isn't uh

[23:55] perfect because it cannot be a permanent

[23:59] happiness. It's always going to be a

[24:01] change, a flux, always going to come and

[24:03] go.

[24:04] So,

[24:06] and [clears throat] I was going to ask

[24:07] everybody, you can bring this to mind.

[24:10] What would happen if [clears throat] you

[24:12] never if you just uh didn't empty your

[24:15] rubbish bin, your wheelie bin each week?

[24:19] After a week, it might be a bit smelly.

[24:22] After 2 weeks, wow.

[24:24] After 3 weeks, maybe other creatures are

[24:27] starting to take over. 4 weeks,

[24:30] then the neighbors will complain.

[24:32] >> [laughter]

[24:33] [sighs and gasps]

[24:34] >> And so, this is a good simile actually

[24:36] for all these past hurts, all these

[24:39] resentments, all these grudges. You

[24:42] know, they're like so much rubbish. And

[24:45] uh so, the

[24:46] our job is really to put them in to the

[24:49] wheelie bin and wheel them out to the

[24:52] verge. And it's really quite handy. The

[24:56] Buddha You see, the Buddha use similes a

[24:58] lot. And similes, these like images, can

[25:03] give us the ability to use it as a quick

[25:06] a shortcut for letting go.

[25:09] And we can think, you know, we're really

[25:10] angry, we're really upset, and then

[25:12] we're it's repeating in our minds, you

[25:15] know how it does, you know, gets caught

[25:16] in a loop. You know, they said this,

[25:19] they did that, and it goes on and on and

[25:21] on. And so, if we then we can bring to

[25:26] mind, ah yes, the wheelie bin.

[25:30] It can help us recognize one, this is

[25:32] rubbish.

[25:34] And and in our minds, put it into the

[25:36] wheelie bin, and then wheel it out to

[25:38] the street. So, this is this perhaps

[25:42] helpful for you. I was I was

[25:45] reading a teaching from Tenzin Palmo

[25:48] recently. I thought, wow, so skillful

[25:51] actually, you know, how to let go of

[25:54] when people do and say things that

[25:57] really

[25:59] press our buttons. And she said, bring

[26:02] to mind the Teflon pan.

[26:05] Isn't that a great image? You know,

[26:07] Ajahn Brahm used the Teflon mind, same

[26:10] idea. So, that these words, these

[26:14] actions don't stick to us. And she said,

[26:18] and this is a lovely teaching, she said,

[26:20] don't become a pressure cooker. You

[26:22] know, when we go over and over again, we

[26:25] build up steam, literally almost forces

[26:28] us to get red, and we we get agitated.

[26:31] And then, the other one she used was,

[26:33] and often times with a lot of these

[26:35] hurts, a lot of these grudges, we can

[26:38] feel like

[26:39] this is like a replay of a television

[26:42] show or series we've seen many, many

[26:45] times. And she said, then what to do?

[26:49] Change channel.

[26:52] And that's a good image to bring up to

[26:54] to mind, changing channel. And when

[26:57] we're starting to build up pressure,

[26:58] bring up the pressure cooker. And when

[27:01] people are saying and doing things, not

[27:03] reacting and getting

[27:06] angry, upset, irritated, annoyed with

[27:08] them, just think of the Teflon pan. So,

[27:11] using these images can be very useful

[27:14] for us.

[27:16] And also, you know, the alternative, as

[27:19] as mentioned, what's it feel like when

[27:21] we don't forgive? And as mentioned, we

[27:24] just become very bitter and twisted. We

[27:26] get stuck.

[27:28] We get caught in a replay or repeat that

[27:32] it goes over and over again what others

[27:35] have said and done.

[27:36] So, there's a nice verse in the

[27:39] Dhammapada that really captures this.

[27:41] It's goes with the other ones, really.

[27:45] It says, "He abused me. He struck me. He

[27:48] overpowered me. He robbed me." Those who

[27:52] harbor such thoughts do not still their

[27:56] hatred. "She abused me. She struck me.

[28:00] She overpowered me. She robbed me."

[28:04] Those who do not harbor such thoughts

[28:08] still their hatred. Sadhu. Sadhu.

[28:12] And that's that is quite I mean, it's

[28:16] really simple in the way that if we

[28:18] repeat if we focus on things again and

[28:21] again, give attention to them, we will

[28:24] keep them alive. We will keep them

[28:26] going.

[28:27] And as practitioners, when we're

[28:29] practicing the noble eightfold path,

[28:32] we're working with our minds and working

[28:35] with what we give attention to. If we

[28:38] give attention to those thoughts, you

[28:41] know, that this person has abused me,

[28:44] struck me, overpowered me, and robbed

[28:46] me, and keep going over that. Then that

[28:50] hatred, then those emotions associated

[28:52] with that will grow. And of course the

[28:55] Buddha is encouraging us to develop

[28:58] pay attention to other things, to

[29:00] develop qualities that will let go of

[29:04] that hatred,

[29:06] um those negative qualities of the mind.

[29:09] And that's really it's not always that

[29:11] easy

[29:11] >> [laughter]

[29:13] >> when the buttons have been pressed to

[29:15] actually change channel. It's not so

[29:18] easy, but we can remember. And this is

[29:20] where Sati, this mindfulness, so

[29:23] important with the

[29:25] um with our life, with our practice,

[29:27] with the Buddha's teachings. Because

[29:30] Sati remind

[29:32] allows us to remember, ah yes, what to

[29:35] do in this situation. And then maybe to

[29:38] remember the wheelie bin or the

[29:41] Teflon pan, something like that. So very

[29:44] very very useful way of dealing with

[29:47] these things because

[29:49] it's what we give attention to that will

[29:52] grow. The Buddha mentions that many

[29:54] times.

[29:55] And what are the two aspects of

[29:57] forgiveness?

[29:59] Do you know? Maybe it's not the right

[30:01] way of saying it. Anyone?

[30:04] There's two aspects to forgiveness.

[30:11] And when the monks are when the

[30:13] monastics are doing it we always do

[30:15] both.

[30:16] And um

[30:18] the first one of course is asking for

[30:20] forgiveness. You know, this is when

[30:21] we've done something um asking for

[30:24] forgiveness from someone else or maybe

[30:28] even ourselves. Sounds a bit strange,

[30:30] doesn't it really? Asking forgiveness

[30:32] from yourself. But it could be it can be

[30:34] a good exercise actually. And that can

[30:37] take the

[30:38] form of apologizing.

[30:40] Hello Susan.

[30:43] Or saying sorry, writing a letter of

[30:46] apology, that sort of thing. So, this

[30:50] is a good good thing to do. The second

[30:53] aspect, of course, is giving

[30:55] forgiveness, forgiving others and

[30:58] ourselves. And always, as mentioned, you

[31:01] know, when we do forgiveness

[31:04] as monastics, we we always say we say

[31:10] "Kamami Kamitaban. I forgive, you should

[31:14] forgive."

[31:15] You know, may you forgive. So, it's

[31:18] always that dual nature,

[31:20] really, because it'll never be

[31:23] one-sided. Actually, there's always

[31:25] going to be another side to, you know,

[31:28] that we need to forgive.

[31:31] We're asking forgiveness and giving

[31:33] forgiveness. And this is something it's

[31:37] not a one-off.

[31:39] It's an ongoing process

[31:42] until we reach the first stage of

[31:45] enlightenment, at least, the stream

[31:47] entry.

[31:48] We will be collecting issues, we'll be

[31:51] collecting, reacting very negatively to

[31:54] what people do, say, and what we suspect

[31:57] they're thinking.

[31:58] One of the worst sufferings in life is

[32:01] being, you know, absolutely afraid of

[32:04] what people are thinking about who? Us.

[32:09] And of course, this is one of the big

[32:11] the big things that a stream enterer

[32:14] a sees through. That first stage of

[32:16] enlightenment, they see through There

[32:18] isn't a permanent I, me, and myself.

[32:20] Yes, character, personality, but nothing

[32:24] fixed. And of course, once one's had

[32:26] that game changer, actually, then all

[32:31] these issues

[32:32] tend to reduce. They won't be so

[32:35] sensitive. We're We're are so sensitive

[32:38] to what people say, what they do, or

[32:41] what we think they're thinking. That's

[32:43] the

[32:44] That's the great suffering as mentioned.

[32:46] And it's like um

[32:48] you know, um I think it was Ajahn Chah

[32:50] used this simile. Um we're like a really

[32:54] we're really um

[32:56] fat or obese and we're going through

[32:59] doorways and brushing up against the

[33:01] doorways

[33:03] because of this

[33:05] of this ego which leads to this obesity

[33:08] of the mind. This You know, so it's

[33:11] going to brush up against everything and

[33:13] everyone. And so we're so sensitive as

[33:17] beings. So this is a something the

[33:19] stream enterer

[33:21] having seen that through that view that

[33:23] there's a permanent I, me, and myself,

[33:26] having seen through that, they're free

[33:28] of that to a large degree. They won't

[33:32] They won't uh

[33:34] won't take have a view that this is me

[33:36] being offended, this is me being abused,

[33:39] and all this. So we can do this uh

[33:42] forgiveness

[33:44] uh as often as we need. Some people do

[33:46] it as a daily practice, and I think

[33:48] that's quite a good idea. And later I'll

[33:51] do a guided meditation or contemplation

[33:54] in a general way

[33:56] for us uh for forgiveness. But one of

[33:59] the easiest I think uh most easily

[34:03] remembered actually formulas for

[34:05] forgiveness.

[34:07] What do you think that is? It's very

[34:09] predictable really.

[34:12] I'm a student of Ajahn Brahm, so

[34:16] it's AFL.

[34:19] Do you remember what AFL stands for? Can

[34:21] you forget?

[34:22] Here in Victoria it's the home of AFL,

[34:24] isn't it?

[34:26] So it's the Australian Football League.

[34:29] So Ajahn Brahm hasn't really taught

[34:31] about the Australian football league,

[34:32] but he's taught about

[34:35] accepting or acknowledging, that's the

[34:37] A, forgiving, that's the F, and L is the

[34:41] letting go or learning. And I think it's

[34:44] it's a very um

[34:46] easy easily remembered and useful way to

[34:51] approach forgiveness, actually.

[34:58] So,

[35:00] so what is the I, you know?

[35:03] And really this acceptance is is the

[35:05] hard part of forgiveness, really. Hard

[35:08] part of um in our lives.

[35:12] I think when we use this word

[35:14] forgiveness, actually for me,

[35:16] it means almost like letting go. Once we

[35:19] accept something, once we accept

[35:21] ourselves, once we accept others, once

[35:24] we accept situations in life,

[35:27] we can let go. We we don't have to

[35:29] resist, which is

[35:31] the usual um the usual approach. But

[35:35] this acceptance and acknowledging is

[35:38] really driven by two things, and the

[35:40] Buddha calls it the power of reflection,

[35:44] and this is using wisdom to let go of of

[35:48] things, to develop the path, and the

[35:51] power of development. And the power of

[35:54] reflection can be really it's looking at

[35:57] the essence of

[35:59] is this something that's good? Is this

[36:01] something for my benefit and happiness

[36:04] or not?

[36:05] That recognition, that power of wisdom,

[36:08] that power of reflection, is something

[36:11] that is

[36:12] we would think so basic.

[36:16] But [laughter] with our with our power,

[36:18] with our delusions, with our

[36:20] defilements, it can twist everything. It

[36:22] can as it were turn them upside down. We

[36:25] call it vipallasa. So, this power of

[36:28] reflection can recognize those things

[36:31] that actually are of

[36:33] wholesome or good that are leading to

[36:35] happiness and well-being is a real that

[36:38] is real wisdom actually.

[36:41] Um and it's the essence of the path. And

[36:43] of course, the power of development,

[36:45] there's many things in the Buddha's

[36:46] teachings we can develop.

[36:49] And the power of development in this

[36:50] case

[36:52] in terms of forgiveness is, you know,

[36:54] having this metta, loving kindness.

[36:57] Could call it friendliness. And also

[37:00] having compassion or caring. And also

[37:02] having this a joy for other people's

[37:06] happy for their

[37:08] the good qualities and their successes.

[37:11] And also acceptance. So, this is those

[37:14] twin twin aspects, the power of

[37:16] reflection that really uses wisdom and

[37:20] the power of development that's putting

[37:22] them it putting that wisdom into action

[37:25] in a sense.

[37:26] And together they bring this forgiveness

[37:30] and letting go.

[37:32] So, this is

[37:34] And of course, when we acknowledge

[37:36] we

[37:38] acknowledge what has happened, we're

[37:39] clear in our minds. Often times we start

[37:42] to do rewrites. Have you noticed that?

[37:45] And what And actually sometimes the

[37:47] rewrites get worse, don't they? You

[37:49] know,

[37:50] that's the truth of it. And what was And

[37:53] be clear about what was done and said

[37:55] and how we felt is very important. And

[37:58] maybe we even aware of how the other

[38:00] person felt, too.

[38:02] And so, this really

[38:05] um is

[38:07] really very helpful for us because we

[38:09] realize that this has happened. This is

[38:13] finished. It is the past in a sense.

[38:16] And that can be helpful for us in in a

[38:19] way, you You it's just happened. It's

[38:21] over. It's done.

[38:23] Um and it doesn't uh So, this is very

[38:26] helpful for it can be helpful for

[38:29] letting go when we realize, yeah, it's

[38:32] it's finished. It And one of the

[38:35] um teachers that I I listen to, she

[38:38] said, you know, that somebody might slap

[38:41] her once,

[38:43] but that'll only be once. She won't

[38:46] replay it.

[38:48] Because we will What will happen most of

[38:50] us would go we'd be slapped, and then

[38:53] we'd think, "Oh, no, how dare they slap

[38:55] me?" And then it goes on, and she

[38:57] slapped me, and they did the hard

[39:00] and the stories that would go with it,

[39:02] too. So, this ability let to let go of

[39:05] the past is really something we're

[39:07] training in meditation, isn't it? Every

[39:10] sit that we do, every walk that we do,

[39:13] every meditation we do, we are coming to

[39:16] the present moment, letting go of the

[39:18] past, and letting go of the future.

[39:22] Letting go of the past is not that easy.

[39:25] Um

[39:25] uh and really sometimes people think

[39:27] it's basic again, but in fact it's it is

[39:31] a quite quite skillful thing to be able

[39:34] to let go, to be free of the past, to be

[39:37] free of the future.

[39:41] And uh

[39:44] we can always too reflect that

[39:47] that person that hurt us,

[39:50] um whether it be someone else or

[39:52] ourselves, is not always like that. Have

[39:55] you noticed how we sort of freeze do a

[39:59] What do you call it? Freeze frame? You

[40:01] know, we we still we capture us an

[40:03] image, and they're always like that in

[40:05] our minds. Nobody is always like that.

[40:09] And if they were,

[40:11] would change be possible? Would

[40:13] Angulimala have become an arahant? And

[40:16] he was a very unlikely character

[40:19] um to become he was a serial serial

[40:22] killer and he became an arahant. So

[40:25] change is possible, but we tend to as I

[40:28] say freeze or or

[40:31] focus in on a particular time and think

[40:34] they're always like that.

[40:38] And an image that can be very useful

[40:40] when we

[40:43] when somebody is really saying things

[40:46] and doing things that we find difficult.

[40:49] It's very helpful. It's a bit like

[40:52] it's not quite an image, but it's

[40:54] we can think of them as being mad when

[40:57] we're like that we're mad or being

[40:59] really sick. You know, if if you if

[41:03] somebody

[41:04] if somebody really says something

[41:07] terrible to you or does something

[41:09] terrible, but you know, you hear then

[41:12] you hear you hear that oh they're

[41:13] they're in the terminal phase of disease

[41:16] or cancer or whatever. It's

[41:18] extraordinary how you let go once you

[41:21] get a bit more of the context of what

[41:24] the why that person is saying and doing

[41:27] those things.

[41:29] And often it's nothing to do with us.

[41:32] >> [laughter]

[41:32] >> We happen to be around at the time.

[41:34] And uh also as mentioned, you know, that

[41:38] power of reflection allows us to ask

[41:41] ourselves, do I always want to

[41:44] be this grumpy irritated angry depressed

[41:48] anxious person or not? It's up to it's

[41:51] in a certain to a certain extent it's up

[41:53] to us. If we don't want to be like that,

[41:56] then we can focus on cause and

[41:58] conditions that change it. And one of

[42:00] the best

[42:02] uh

[42:03] example for me, cuz examples of

[42:06] forgiveness can be really powerful. And

[42:09] Eva Kor is the one that I often mention.

[42:11] You'll probably go, "Oh, no, here he

[42:13] goes again."

[42:15] >> [panting]

[42:16] >> But, I often mention her. She was a

[42:18] identical twin, and she and her sister

[42:21] were

[42:23] used for medical experiments during the

[42:25] Second World War in in a concentration

[42:28] camp. They were Jewish, and they were in

[42:31] Auschwitz. And both of them the doctor

[42:34] there, Dr. Mengele,

[42:36] I think people have heard of him used to

[42:38] He had a real obsession with

[42:41] um doing experiments on identical twins

[42:44] cuz they they are very good sort of

[42:46] sample to to to check out the results of

[42:50] of of these these experiments. And he'd

[42:53] inject them with viruses, bacteria, and

[42:56] things like that or or other medicines

[42:59] just to see the reaction that would

[43:02] happen, obviously not caring at all that

[43:05] this is great suffering.

[43:07] And she said actually, and this is

[43:09] relates to, you know, recognizing

[43:12] rubbish for rubbish. She said, "Why

[43:15] survive at all if you want to be sad,

[43:19] angry, and hurting?" You know, and I

[43:21] think this really is the is the really

[43:24] driving force but

[43:26] for forgiveness, for forgiving, for

[43:30] letting go. We realize it is rubbish. It

[43:33] isn't for our happiness and well-being.

[43:36] So, this is

[43:38] very powerful teaching that she gave.

[43:40] And she also one of the things I

[43:42] thought, "Wow, yeah, this is a really a

[43:44] good way to see it that when we forgive,

[43:48] we actually have a power. This is a

[43:51] power. We can forgive others. Nobody can

[43:54] take it away from us." And she said that

[43:57] actually, you recall.

[43:59] And she she actually um

[44:01] the her story of forgiveness really was

[44:03] very interesting because in the 1980s,

[44:06] so this is like uh

[44:08] almost 40 40 plus years after the the

[44:13] liberation of Auschwitz in January 20

[44:17] and 40 20 no, 1945

[44:20] January 1945.

[44:23] She went back to Auschwitz and it must

[44:25] have been Can you imagine going to a

[44:27] place like that? It must have taken

[44:29] incredible courage, but

[44:32] it released a lot of things that she had

[44:35] bottled up over the years and she

[44:37] realized there that there was a need to

[44:41] forgive, you know, cuz she as mentioned,

[44:43] she didn't want to be this person that

[44:46] was really imprisoned by the past,

[44:49] imprisoned in anger and all these

[44:52] negative emotions. And so what she did

[44:55] was

[44:57] and it must have been a gradual process.

[44:59] Let's face it 1945 to say 1985 40 years

[45:03] that was processing that, but really

[45:07] wanting to be free of it. And in 1995

[45:11] she actually wrote a letter of

[45:15] forgiveness. She said an

[45:18] amnesty for the Nazis and she which is

[45:21] incredible and she actually gave it to

[45:24] one of the doctors at Auschwitz, but he

[45:27] wasn't one of the doctors who was

[45:29] involved in the medical medical

[45:31] experiments. He was the one he was one

[45:33] of the doctors who was doing the body

[45:35] tally, you know, counting the dead

[45:37] bodies and all that. So but she said as

[45:41] a result of writing this letter it took

[45:43] her months to write it too cuz you can

[45:45] imagine

[45:47] how she would put it, but

[45:49] she said, "But what I discovered for

[45:51] myself was life-changing. I discovered

[45:54] that I had the power to forgive. No one

[45:57] could give me that power and no one

[45:59] could take it away. It was all mine to

[46:02] use in any way I wished. So that's

[46:05] great. That's a really a really good way

[46:08] of looking at it. It's turning the the

[46:12] focus from being a victim, isn't it,

[46:14] into being an agent of power. You know,

[46:17] this is being a powerful experience.

[46:20] And forgiveness is a very powerful

[46:22] experience.

[46:24] And it can also we can use, you know,

[46:26] this power of reflection too for

[46:30] um

[46:32] reflecting too that

[46:34] am I perfect? That's always a good one.

[46:37] >> [laughter]

[46:39] >> And so this makes it easier to forgive

[46:42] others for not being perfect when we

[46:45] realize we're not perfect. So very

[46:47] helpful. There are many many different

[46:50] things that we can can do.

[46:53] And of course, that's the

[46:55] the accepting, that's the acknowledging

[46:57] part of AFL. And the next part is F for

[47:01] forgiveness.

[47:03] And of course

[47:04] for forgiveness

[47:06] it's really good if there's an action

[47:08] that goes with it because that makes it

[47:12] even stronger.

[47:14] So someone like like Eva Kor writing

[47:17] that letter very very powerful for her.

[47:19] Also very difficult.

[47:25] She got heavily criticized for for doing

[47:28] that as you can imagine.

[47:30] Because many people still holding on to

[47:33] that to the past

[47:35] which was very traumatic for them.

[47:38] So

[47:39] I think we can always

[47:42] the most the most effective way to

[47:45] to process forgiveness is to actually do

[47:49] it person to person. Do it directly.

[47:51] Speak it out. And that that is very

[47:54] powerful. But as mentioned, you can

[47:57] write it. It's good. Sometimes

[48:00] we have to do it in our minds because

[48:03] either the person's no longer in our

[48:05] lives, they passed away, or they're

[48:08] they're no we're not in contact anymore.

[48:11] And that way we can but we do it very um

[48:15] you know, visually in our minds. So,

[48:17] this is important thing to settle this

[48:21] unfinished business. So, some sort of

[48:24] action that makes it more real, more

[48:27] powerful.

[48:29] And of course, one of the other aspects

[48:32] and we have this in Vinaya, too. This is

[48:34] for the monks and nuns is

[48:37] uh we uh

[48:39] um yeah, that's

[48:41] we ask for uh as mentioned, we ask for

[48:44] forgiveness quite often. That's quite a

[48:47] a regular thing we do.

[48:49] Um

[48:50] uh and especially when we're parting.

[48:53] And it's always good when we ask we're

[48:56] parting from somebody to forgive the

[48:59] past, let go of the past. And so, we

[49:03] have this this sort of formula or this

[49:05] this is a translation, "Please forgive

[49:07] me for anything I did or said or failed

[49:10] to do or say. That's very powerful, too.

[49:13] Sometimes that hurt you or upset you

[49:16] whether I did them intentionally or

[49:19] unintentionally."

[49:20] And so, that's asking for forgiveness

[49:23] but also giving forgiveness. "I forgive

[49:25] you for anything you did or said or

[49:28] failed to do or say that hurt me or

[49:31] upset me

[49:32] whether you did them intentionally or

[49:35] unintentionally."

[49:36] I always every funeral I do, every

[49:41] memorial service I do, I do forgiveness.

[49:44] I always do a guided forgiveness in

[49:47] there because it's so important. There's

[49:49] always issues from a life. There's

[49:54] always going to be and there's such a

[49:56] skillful way and where why it works at a

[49:59] funeral is because we are bringing first

[50:02] of all making the mind very positive by

[50:06] focusing on the good qualities of that

[50:08] person, bringing up a sort a sense of

[50:11] thankfulness for those good qualities,

[50:14] joy for that good qualities and then the

[50:17] mind is in a a good state for

[50:20] forgiveness, for letting go of the past.

[50:23] There will always be

[50:25] things that need to be forgiven and also

[50:28] in for the monks and nuns there's a way

[50:30] of making amends and I think this is

[50:33] very good for us too. It's a

[50:36] we have first of all we acknowledge it,

[50:38] we open up about what we're

[50:40] acknowledging, we're honest and then we

[50:43] ask forgiveness and then make amends if

[50:47] there is something additional we have to

[50:49] do.

[50:50] And very importantly,

[50:53] determine not to do it again.

[50:56] It's not always easy because we tend to

[50:59] be as

[51:01] as mentioned we've got these habits in

[51:03] the mind, conditioning in the mind. And

[51:07] that that often plays out again and

[51:10] again.

[51:11] So now continues uh

[51:14] Talking of which, I will tell the story

[51:17] of Nasrudin. One day Nasrudin who was a

[51:21] Sufi um

[51:22] Sufi teacher, he was a bit of a

[51:25] a scallywag as Sargent Brom would say.

[51:28] >> [laughter]

[51:29] >> And he one day he was galloping through

[51:32] the village. I don't know if you gallop

[51:33] on a donkey. He has a donkey. Anyway, he

[51:36] was galloping through the village on the

[51:38] donkey and one of his friends in the

[51:40] village shouted out to him, "Nasrudin,

[51:43] where are you going?"

[51:46] And then Nasrudin said,

[51:48] "Ask the donkey."

[51:52] And of course the donkey is our habits.

[51:54] It represents our habits. The And you

[51:57] know, these some of them can be desires,

[51:59] but habits that we have, these this

[52:01] conditioning that we have that tends to

[52:04] run us in a particular direction, almost

[52:08] sometimes against our will. And this is

[52:11] why sati mindfulness is so important

[52:13] because it can, as it were, cut across

[52:16] some of our habits or make us aware that

[52:19] there's a habit uh occurring. Make us

[52:23] aware, maybe time to change the channel.

[52:27] So, there we are. And now just to move

[52:29] on to

[52:30] uh learn, so we can

[52:32] uh L. So, we've had accept, acknowledge,

[52:35] and then forgive. As I mentioned, you

[52:38] know, when we can accept, then

[52:41] forgiveness is very natural. It will

[52:44] happen actually. And then what we

[52:46] learned from that experience, or as

[52:49] Ajahn Brahm also says, uh letting go.

[52:52] And we can learn so so much from it from

[52:56] the experience of forgiving. Uh we can

[52:59] feel, of course, most people when uh we

[53:03] we forgive, we feel so much better. We

[53:07] feel a lot lighter and happier and

[53:09] relieved and less burdened. And uh and

[53:14] the mind is much healthier.

[53:16] And

[53:18] again to mention what

[53:20] uh Eva Kor experienced as what she

[53:23] learned from it. She's

[53:24] This was particularly referring to

[53:27] writing that letter of forgiveness. She

[53:29] said, "Uh it is an act of self-healing,

[53:32] self-liberation,

[53:34] self-empowerment."

[53:36] There we are. A lot of self there, isn't

[53:38] there?

[53:39] >> [laughter]

[53:39] >> But anyway. And then

[53:41] she said, "And this is a very good one,

[53:43] and it's we all recognize this as as a

[53:46] truth, we cannot change what happened.

[53:49] This is the power of recognizing this,

[53:52] but we can change how we relate to it.

[53:55] We cannot change what happened. She

[53:56] can't change She couldn't change what

[53:59] her experience was in the concentration

[54:01] camp, but how she related to it, she

[54:04] could. She

[54:06] was not one of these people who would,

[54:09] you know, we have in English the saying

[54:10] forget and forgive, isn't it?

[54:12] And she said she would not forget, but

[54:15] she can forgive. And she was quite

[54:18] incredible. She established a Holocaust

[54:21] museum in her hometown in the US,

[54:23] and was a great, you know, well-known

[54:27] speaker about forgiveness, really. But

[54:31] she also said, and I think this is very

[54:33] true for us, too, that uh

[54:36] uh she forgave the not She said,

[54:39] Nazis, not because they deserved it, but

[54:42] because

[54:43] she deserved it. And it's the same for

[54:46] us. We deserve forgiveness. When we give

[54:49] forgiveness, we will

[54:52] we will experience that the results. And

[54:55] she said the day she forgave the the

[54:57] Nazis, privately she forgave her parents

[55:01] cuz her parents, they died in the gas

[55:03] chambers, but for not being able to, you

[55:07] know, protect her and her sister Miriam

[55:10] from Auschwitz. And and she said, and

[55:14] we're so complicated as hu- human

[55:16] beings. I thought, this is so true of

[55:18] all of us. And then she said, then she

[55:20] forgave herself for for hating her

[55:23] parents for their inability to save her

[55:27] from that experience.

[55:29] So, this is this is what we can learn

[55:32] from forgiveness. If you're interested

[55:35] in at all in that Eva Kor experience, I

[55:38] think this one is a good one. It's

[55:40] called I Survived the Holocaust Twin

[55:43] Experiments.

[55:44] I Survived the Holocaust Twin

[55:46] Experiments. I've got a

[55:48] I've got a link for it. You can go into

[55:51] the chat if it's a good idea. So, this

[55:54] is something

[55:56] that she learned, but it's for us, too.

[55:58] It's very liberating for us when we

[56:00] forgive. And it's a very good mental

[56:03] habit. As mentioned, if we never threw

[56:06] the rubbish out, the physical rubbish,

[56:09] wow, we would have a health problem on

[56:11] our hands, to say the least. So, this is

[56:15] what we can do. And of course, the more

[56:18] we do it, the quicker it will become,

[56:21] the easier it will become, the lighter

[56:23] will

[56:24] these things will be on our mind. They

[56:28] will actually Some people like to do it

[56:30] every day, maybe in the evening, but I

[56:32] think just before you go to bed might be

[56:34] not the best time.

[56:36] >> [laughter]

[56:37] >> If it really works, then that's fine.

[56:39] And you But even then, it may make it

[56:41] difficult to sleep. Otherwise, one may

[56:44] be going over things. So, this is what

[56:48] we can do, you know, with forgiveness.

[56:50] And I like to do just a very short

[56:53] forgiveness meditation. And so, just 5

[56:57] minutes or something, and then we can

[56:59] finish off.

[57:06] And we can

[57:08] close the eyes if we wish, or half close

[57:10] them.

[57:12] And come into the present moment. Just

[57:14] be with the body for the moment. Just

[57:17] see if it needs adjustment.

[57:21] The legs, the knees, the hands.

[57:32] And we can relax the body mentally,

[57:35] starting at the top of the head.

[57:38] And moving down the body for the head,

[57:40] the face, and the neck.

[57:43] Giving

[57:45] these areas

[57:47] a mental massage with this sort of

[57:50] kindness, this warmth, this caring.

[57:58] And then moving to the

[58:00] uh

[58:01] shoulders, the left and the right

[58:03] shoulder.

[58:04] Down the arms to the hands and the

[58:06] fingers, giving them this really

[58:09] uh

[58:10] gentle

[58:12] deep mental massage.

[58:15] Really relaxing them, soothing them

[58:18] right down to the fingertips.

[58:32] And now bringing to mind the chest, the

[58:35] stomach, and the abdomen.

[58:37] And giving those areas, just below the

[58:40] shoulders, giving those areas this

[58:42] mental massage.

[58:44] Healing.

[58:48] Soothing.

[58:51] Caring for those areas.

[59:02] And now bringing to mind the legs,

[59:04] starting at the top of the legs and

[59:06] moving our attention down the legs to

[59:08] the feet and toes.

[59:10] And giving the legs, one at a time

[59:13] perhaps,

[59:14] a mental massage. This really caring,

[59:19] kind, soothing,

[59:21] warm mental massage.

[59:40] >> And now we can experience the whole body

[59:42] sitting here in the present moment.

[59:47] And

[59:51] we can bring to mind someone or

[59:54] something

[59:55] that brings up this warm feeling of

[59:58] kindness,

[1:00:00] friendliness,

[1:00:02] safety, security,

[1:00:04] openness.

[1:00:06] It might be a dear friend, a family

[1:00:10] member, a grandparent,

[1:00:14] or it might be even a pet,

[1:00:18] or something some something imaginary

[1:00:22] like Ajahn Brahm's little kitten.

[1:00:27] Just bringing to mind

[1:00:29] some someone or something

[1:00:33] that has a real association of this for

[1:00:36] easily starts this feeling of

[1:00:38] friendliness, kindness,

[1:00:42] acceptance.

[1:01:02] And if this feeling if a feeling has

[1:01:05] come up for you, just to as it were

[1:01:07] focus on it gently or go into it as it

[1:01:11] were

[1:01:12] and allow it

[1:01:13] to

[1:01:15] ripple through

[1:01:17] our being.

[1:01:19] Like when we throw a stone into a pond

[1:01:22] and it ripples

[1:01:24] throughout the whole pond.

[1:01:27] This feeling of warmth, safety, and

[1:01:30] security.

[1:01:47] And now, when the breath

[1:01:50] comes to our attention,

[1:01:53] we can breathe in giving this

[1:01:55] warm feeling

[1:01:57] of friendliness,

[1:02:00] of caring, of acceptance

[1:02:06] to the breath as it comes in

[1:02:10] and to the breath as it goes out.

[1:02:25] Giving it to the world.

[1:02:28] Giving it to ourselves.

[1:02:30] Giving it to the world.

[1:02:32] Breathing in

[1:02:35] this

[1:02:36] kindness, friendliness, openness,

[1:02:39] acceptance, security,

[1:02:42] and breathing it out

[1:02:44] to the world.

[1:03:09] And now, we can share that with

[1:03:11] ourselves to begin with.

[1:03:14] This warmth, openness,

[1:03:16] sense of safety,

[1:03:19] and friendliness.

[1:03:27] Filling ourselves with it.

[1:03:38] And we can forgive ourselves. I I

[1:03:42] forgive you

[1:03:43] for anything you did or said or thought

[1:03:48] that

[1:03:49] or didn't say or do or think

[1:03:53] that upset my

[1:03:55] upset you

[1:03:57] or hurt you, whether whether

[1:04:00] deliberately or

[1:04:02] unintentionally.

[1:04:13] And then we can do the other side.

[1:04:18] I forgive you

[1:04:20] for anything

[1:04:22] you did, said,

[1:04:24] or thought

[1:04:26] that upset or hurt me,

[1:04:29] whether you did it deliberately or

[1:04:31] or unintentionally.

[1:04:38] I forgive you.

[1:04:47] And then we can share

[1:04:49] this feeling of meta, kindness,

[1:04:54] friendliness, warmth with all those we

[1:04:57] all those people and beings we're close

[1:05:00] to,

[1:05:01] family, friends, pets.

[1:05:08] And we can give forgiveness to them.

[1:05:12] I forgive you

[1:05:14] for anything you did

[1:05:16] or said

[1:05:20] that upset or hurt me

[1:05:24] whether you did it deliberately or not.

[1:05:34] And then the other side, isn't it?

[1:05:37] Please forgive me for anything I did

[1:05:40] or said

[1:05:43] or failed to do or say

[1:05:46] that upset you

[1:05:50] or hurt you

[1:05:52] whether I did it

[1:05:53] intentionally or unintentionally.

[1:06:02] >> [cough and clears throat]

[1:06:13] >> And then we can move on and share this

[1:06:17] meta, this kindness, friendliness with

[1:06:20] everyone here

[1:06:22] and with all beings everywhere for their

[1:06:25] happiness

[1:06:27] for their well-being, their freedom,

[1:06:29] their lightness.

[1:06:38] And we can

[1:06:39] have the aspiration to develop more of

[1:06:42] this forgiveness, this letting go,

[1:06:45] freeing ourselves

[1:06:47] from past hurts.

[1:06:53] And giving this

[1:06:56] forgiveness to others, asking for

[1:06:58] forgiveness from others, and giving it

[1:07:01] to them.

[1:07:09] And now we can slowly come out of

[1:07:11] meditation

[1:07:13] and open our eyes.

[1:07:24] So I just like to finish with

[1:07:27] So I hope hope people found that uh

[1:07:30] useful. And just [clears throat] to um

[1:07:33] maybe the takeaway from today is

[1:07:37] let's empty the wheelie bins.

[1:07:40] Make sure we do it regularly. Otherwise,

[1:07:43] our minds will become smelly and

[1:07:45] unhygienic

[1:07:47] and also very unpleasant experience for

[1:07:50] us and for others around us as well. So

[1:07:53] I'd like to finish there with that

[1:07:55] encouragement.

[1:07:58] Can you hear?

[1:08:00] There we are.

[1:08:04] >> Thank you, Ajahn, for such a

[1:08:07] wonderful talk and also the meditation.

[1:08:11] Uh we shall perhaps take a couple of

[1:08:13] questions, uh maybe beginning from the

[1:08:15] room.

[1:08:17] Thank you, Dr. Ajahn.

[1:08:22] >> Hello, Dr. Ajahn. Good morning.

[1:08:24] >> Thank you, Ajahn, for the

[1:08:25] >> Yeah.

[1:08:25] >> good uh discourse. We don't have

[1:08:29] to add some discussion into the talk.

[1:08:31] >> Yeah.

[1:08:32] >> Uh

[1:08:33] there are two parties, the person who's

[1:08:35] >> asking for forgiveness and person who's

[1:08:37] giving the forgiveness.

[1:08:40] The person who's asking the forgiveness,

[1:08:42] of course, is a expression of humility

[1:08:45] and willingness to

[1:08:46] >> Mhm.

[1:08:47] >> correct from unskillful behavior to a

[1:08:50] skillful behavior.

[1:08:53] Other side of the coin is that look at

[1:08:55] the mind state of the person who's

[1:08:57] asking.

[1:08:59] He thinks this person must be thinking

[1:09:01] I'm a bad person.

[1:09:03] I may have not have done something bad

[1:09:05] willfully.

[1:09:07] My reputation needs to be tarnished.

[1:09:10] Someone must correct this.

[1:09:11] >> Mhm. Okay.

[1:09:12] >> So, a bit of a

[1:09:14] self-view

[1:09:16] and one bit of filing of the ego.

[1:09:19] >> Yeah.

[1:09:20] >> In that process.

[1:09:22] But the person who is giving

[1:09:25] is getting rid of the ill will,

[1:09:27] >> Mhm.

[1:09:27] >> anger, [clears throat]

[1:09:28] and all that.

[1:09:29] >> Mhm.

[1:09:31] >> So, he is the real beneficiary of this

[1:09:33] process

[1:09:34] >> Mhm.

[1:09:35] >> in the spiritual path.

[1:09:37] I think Buddha

[1:09:39] said this, uh, I mean,

[1:09:41] advised monks do this

[1:09:43] mainly to maintain the harmony among

[1:09:46] themselves

[1:09:47] >> Yeah.

[1:09:47] >> in a community of monks who live

[1:09:49] together

[1:09:49] >> Yeah.

[1:09:50] >> because ill will [snorts] is a bad thing

[1:09:52] for harmony.

[1:09:53] >> Mhm.

[1:09:53] >> Because this process obviously

[1:09:56] increase the community harmony.

[1:09:58] So, real beneficiary of in the spiritual

[1:10:00] path is the person who is giving

[1:10:02] forgiveness, not the person who is

[1:10:04] asking for forgiveness. It's like asking

[1:10:06] for alms. Who the

[1:10:08] person who is giving alms is benefiting?

[1:10:11] The person who is asking for alms, he's

[1:10:13] showing humility.

[1:10:14] >> Mhm.

[1:10:14] >> [clears throat]

[1:10:15] >> Yeah, that's very true. I think it's a a

[1:10:18] dual process actually, uh, Dr. Jay. And

[1:10:21] we will be in the situation. We will

[1:10:24] need to ask for forgiveness. We will

[1:10:26] have made mistakes. We'll have done

[1:10:28] things that are unskillful. This is

[1:10:30] actually a very positive thing to

[1:10:32] recognize

[1:10:33] that, you know, our part in in a

[1:10:35] situation. So, this is actually wisdom.

[1:10:38] This is the power of reflection, power

[1:10:40] of development. And as you said, it does

[1:10:43] it's an act of humility, but it's also

[1:10:45] an act of, um, you know, powerful.

[1:10:48] Really takes courage. It takes courage

[1:10:50] to ask for forgiveness, to realize that,

[1:10:53] you know, we have done or said or

[1:10:56] thought something that was really uh

[1:10:58] hurtful, um that really upset others.

[1:11:02] Um it's always good to reflect that some

[1:11:05] often times we'll say and do things that

[1:11:07] are not intended to upset others, but

[1:11:10] they do get upset. Have you heard

[1:11:12] Somebody told me yesterday, you know,

[1:11:14] they one of the teens I did the

[1:11:16] forgiveness with teens yesterday. They

[1:11:19] said, "I gave this compliment to this

[1:11:21] person and they really got angry."

[1:11:23] >> [laughter]

[1:11:25] >> And I said, "Did they realize it was

[1:11:26] genuine?" Cuz I thought, you know, they

[1:11:28] might think you're sending me up or

[1:11:30] something, you know. But uh he said,

[1:11:32] "No, well, he was genuine, but anyway,

[1:11:34] you know, so." But the other other part

[1:11:37] of asking forgiveness is very important

[1:11:38] and we will have to do that on uh

[1:11:41] occasions, probably.

[1:11:43] Um it's going to be quite an ongoing

[1:11:45] thing, but giving forgiveness is also

[1:11:48] very important. Um and both of these

[1:11:50] processes we need to do. It's not just

[1:11:54] one. Um and and they're both very

[1:11:57] beneficial, you know, asking

[1:11:58] forgiveness, that recognition, that uh

[1:12:02] um using the power of reflection that

[1:12:04] something's not good, and then the power

[1:12:06] of development to forgive, to ask for

[1:12:09] forgiveness. And then the second one,

[1:12:11] too, you know, giving forgiveness when

[1:12:14] others have offended us, hurt us, upset

[1:12:16] us. Uh very important, too, rather than

[1:12:20] hanging on to it, then allowing these

[1:12:23] negative emotions to fester,

[1:12:26] which they they can quite badly. So,

[1:12:28] thanks for that reflection. And

[1:12:30] you know, when I was preparing for this

[1:12:32] talk, I really would like to have done

[1:12:35] uh and I may do it in the next one. I

[1:12:37] have done it before, the Kosambi

[1:12:39] um sutta. And this is where the monks

[1:12:43] community in the city of Kosambi had

[1:12:46] this big dispute, and the Buddha, he uh

[1:12:49] the teachings he gave, lovely, to bring

[1:12:52] them together. He said, "You know, when

[1:12:54] you're saying these angry words and they

[1:12:57] even came to blows." He said, "Have you

[1:12:59] forgotten monks about patience? Have you

[1:13:03] forgotten monks about gentleness?"

[1:13:06] And of course they said, "Yes, we have,

[1:13:07] blessed one."

[1:13:09] But he you know, I thought, "Wow." But

[1:13:11] it was beautiful teachings and he gave

[1:13:13] stories. He gave some of these very very

[1:13:16] Digha Nikaya

[1:13:18] story. He gave many many stories about

[1:13:20] the power of forgiveness and oh, it's

[1:13:23] really beautiful actually and it's a

[1:13:25] very powerful one. So, that's another

[1:13:27] talk anyway. So, thank you Dr. Jarrod

[1:13:29] for that. That's great.

[1:13:31] >> If anything on the line, any complaints?

[1:13:33] >> Um yeah, you So, you have a comment from

[1:13:36] uh Florida in the US that says, "Yay

[1:13:38] Naziruddin."

[1:13:40] Uh but there is a there is a question

[1:13:42] from someone else that says, um "Thank

[1:13:44] you Ajahn.

[1:13:45] When there is an emotional response to

[1:13:48] an incident, we uh taught to sit with

[1:13:52] the discomfort.

[1:13:53] Do we sit with the discomfort or do we

[1:13:55] let go? I get confused.

[1:13:58] >> Ah, right.

[1:14:00] Well, hopefully um you know, the sitting

[1:14:03] with the discomfort will lead to the

[1:14:05] letting go.

[1:14:07] Um if we have the letting go, there

[1:14:09] won't be discomfort actually. So,

[1:14:12] really this is

[1:14:14] um

[1:14:15] this is a means to um to let go really

[1:14:19] is when we sit with it.

[1:14:22] Because um as I came often said and she

[1:14:25] had a she had a different formula. Hers

[1:14:27] was recognition

[1:14:30] no blame, change.

[1:14:32] Often we move away from um unpleasant uh

[1:14:38] feelings that we get from uh others'

[1:14:40] words and their actions. And so, we we

[1:14:44] tend to move away. We're always trying

[1:14:47] to run away from Dukkha. This is a truth

[1:14:49] of it.

[1:14:50] >> [gasps]

[1:14:51] >> And by blaming others, you know, we

[1:14:53] blame them. Oh, you know, it's their

[1:14:55] fault and you know, and yet we don't

[1:14:58] see, you know, our part in it, you know,

[1:15:01] that really these words, these actions

[1:15:05] are just triggers

[1:15:08] that have triggered these emotions in

[1:15:09] me. They And in a person who's really

[1:15:12] developed the path, it's not possible.

[1:15:15] They won't won't react like that. They

[1:15:17] won't be triggers. Person who's

[1:15:19] developed the path is removing the

[1:15:21] triggers. They're taking away the

[1:15:23] buttons that others can press.

[1:15:26] So, this is you know, this is the good

[1:15:28] news with it. So, this is part of it,

[1:15:31] you know, being able to sit with

[1:15:33] uncomfortable

[1:15:35] feelings and emotions is actually

[1:15:37] something that is a bit of a training

[1:15:39] and we can learn from. And if we get if

[1:15:42] we understand it, if we use this power

[1:15:45] of reflection inside really, then we can

[1:15:48] let go. And we'll feel that. So, but

[1:15:52] normally anything slightly unpleasant or

[1:15:56] painful, we'll move away from it in a

[1:15:59] flash

[1:16:00] >> [laughter]

[1:16:00] >> and not learn too much about it.

[1:16:03] >> We have time for perhaps one quick Oh,

[1:16:06] there we go.

[1:16:07] >> There we are. Yeah, it's

[1:16:09] good. Oh, hello. Yeah, good.

[1:16:11] >> Thank you for a beautiful talk.

[1:16:13] So,

[1:16:15] I have done a bit of personal

[1:16:18] development work in

[1:16:21] a kind of newer field that is a lot

[1:16:23] about expressing emotions that are

[1:16:26] either alive in the present moment or

[1:16:29] digging up things from the past, but

[1:16:31] actually allowing the suppressed maybe

[1:16:35] hurt [clears throat] or anger

[1:16:38] to be

[1:16:39] expressed in a healthy, safe environment

[1:16:44] under the

[1:16:45] uh pre-idea that

[1:16:47] >> Mhm.

[1:16:47] >> it's the anger and the emotion can get

[1:16:50] stored in the physical body.

[1:16:52] >> Mhm.

[1:16:52] >> Not just the mind.

[1:16:54] >> Yeah.

[1:16:54] >> And I'm hearing that this ability to sit

[1:16:56] with discomfort and shift the

[1:16:58] perspective and through insight allow

[1:17:02] alchemy of that discomfort.

[1:17:04] >> Yeah.

[1:17:04] >> Uh

[1:17:05] could you talk a little bit to your

[1:17:07] perspective or the Buddhist perspective

[1:17:09] on the nuances of

[1:17:11] uh kind of expressing but not feeding

[1:17:13] those seeds that

[1:17:15] >> Yeah.

[1:17:15] >> Is that Can that be healthy to help move

[1:17:18] it and then shift the perspective or is

[1:17:20] it always about

[1:17:21] >> Oh, right.

[1:17:22] >> allowing it to kind of

[1:17:23] >> Yes.

[1:17:24] >> change the mind.

[1:17:26] >> Yeah.

[1:17:27] >> Yeah.

[1:17:28] >> Yeah.

[1:17:29] I think it's a good question. I think

[1:17:31] it's

[1:17:32] Yes, whether we It's a way

[1:17:35] What you're talking about is

[1:17:36] acknowledging what happened, really

[1:17:38] acknowledging. And it's really a um a

[1:17:41] thin line.

[1:17:43] If we

[1:17:44] acknowledge what's happened, that's

[1:17:46] fine. But if we keep repeating it as it

[1:17:49] were, it's actually making that

[1:17:52] experience stronger in the mind, our

[1:17:55] reaction stronger in the mind. And I

[1:17:59] From what I hear for people have

[1:18:01] post-traumatic stress disorder, you

[1:18:04] know, just going over things is the big

[1:18:06] problem, actually, you know.

[1:18:08] So, bringing it up again won't work for

[1:18:11] them, actually, I don't think. They've

[1:18:13] got to move on.

[1:18:16] So, this This is

[1:18:18] It is very important to be clear about

[1:18:21] what's happened, but not to keep

[1:18:22] rehearsing it. That's the whole point.

[1:18:25] Cuz the Buddha is really about

[1:18:28] recognizing what the situation is and

[1:18:31] then moving the attention to something

[1:18:34] that

[1:18:35] can lead to

[1:18:38] It's usually the opposite sort of

[1:18:39] direction. You know, the opposite

[1:18:41] emotion. So, so for instance with all

[1:18:44] that anger and you know, the Buddha says

[1:18:48] if we if we give attention to

[1:18:51] to the ill will be a part of anger

[1:18:57] or irritation annoyance, then we have

[1:19:00] abandoned

[1:19:02] giving attention to kindness to

[1:19:05] friendliness and all this and all that.

[1:19:07] So, he it's really it's a it's a

[1:19:09] balancing act because you have to

[1:19:10] acknowledge otherwise you end up with

[1:19:13] this pretending.

[1:19:14] >> [laughter]

[1:19:15] >> You know, and you do get this cosmetic

[1:19:17] approach that meta can encourage. Oh,

[1:19:19] everything's beautiful. You know,

[1:19:20] everything's beautiful.

[1:19:22] And one of my teachers said this is a

[1:19:24] bit like cosmetic meta by putting a

[1:19:27] band-aid over something but it's not

[1:19:29] really addressed it at all. So,

[1:19:32] acknowledging it's always a balancing

[1:19:34] act acknowledging it but shifting the

[1:19:36] mind in a direction that will heal it

[1:19:39] and will become the focus. We are

[1:19:42] working on a model as

[1:19:45] as Dr. Jaya said of this I, me, and

[1:19:48] myself. And this I, me, and myself is

[1:19:51] not really what's running the show.

[1:19:54] What's running the show is training the

[1:19:57] mind, programming the mind, realizing

[1:20:01] that yes, we are agents in this process.

[1:20:05] We can incline towards the Buddha's

[1:20:07] training

[1:20:09] or we or not. You know, we have that

[1:20:11] choice as it were.

[1:20:13] But to a certain extent we're probably

[1:20:15] already conditioned to we may have had

[1:20:17] experience from past lives so we

[1:20:19] inclined that way.

[1:20:20] So, it's really not the sense of one of

[1:20:23] the big problems with

[1:20:26] with some of the ways we approach things

[1:20:29] is that we come from the sense of I, me,

[1:20:31] and myself, thinking that this is what's

[1:20:34] responsible for change, what's going to

[1:20:37] make the difference. But really, it's

[1:20:39] getting the causes and conditions right.

[1:20:42] This is the reprogramming.

[1:20:45] And that is

[1:20:47] And that once once you realize that,

[1:20:49] that's what the stream enter has seen,

[1:20:51] that it's not an I, me, and myself

[1:20:53] running this show, it's a process, a

[1:20:55] cause and effect, you know, that's

[1:20:57] running the show. And then, you know,

[1:21:00] all that sort of disappointment and

[1:21:02] self-blaming can go out the window. We

[1:21:04] can just aim towards conditioning

[1:21:08] >> [snorts]

[1:21:09] >> that will bring about the causes that

[1:21:12] will bring about the results. So, this

[1:21:15] is, yeah, some ways we can look at it.

[1:21:18] All right. Thank you very much. Thanks

[1:21:20] for that. Hope it was okay.

[1:21:23] Morning, Wendy.

[1:21:23] >> Morning, Ajahn. Thanks very much for uh

[1:21:26] giving today's talk and the Q&A

[1:21:30] session as well. And just some

[1:21:31] announcements as usual. Um

[1:21:35] at the 2026 AGM, there were a number of

[1:21:38] changes to the constitutions that were

[1:21:40] tabled and the motions passed. Since

[1:21:42] then, unfortunately, it has been

[1:21:44] identified that two requirements, being

[1:21:46] the notice period and the prior approval

[1:21:48] from Ajahn Brahm, were not satisfied. It

[1:21:51] was an unfortunate oversight. However,

[1:21:53] these deficiencies are unable to be

[1:21:55] satisfied post fact. So, the changes um

[1:22:00] are to be nullified and the constitution

[1:22:02] prior to those changes stands. Most of

[1:22:05] the changes were actually about renaming

[1:22:07] membership names, so not particularly

[1:22:08] significant. However, one of the um

[1:22:11] resolutions related to changing the

[1:22:14] lapse period for non-payment of

[1:22:16] membership uh fees from 2 years to 1,

[1:22:19] um

[1:22:20] after which it would not be renewable.

[1:22:22] Um nullification preserves a greater

[1:22:24] right of the membership, so I guess from

[1:22:26] a fairness standpoint, as well as

[1:22:28] ensuring um

[1:22:30] constitutional and legislative

[1:22:32] requirements are met, nullification is

[1:22:34] the best way forward. If anyone has any

[1:22:37] questions, please don't hesitate to see

[1:22:40] me. I'll assist as best I can.

[1:22:43] Um

[1:22:44] On other announcements, the SGM is next

[1:22:48] Sunday, 12:15 to 1:30 p.m. And it will

[1:22:52] happen directly after the communal

[1:22:54] lunch. Um Doors open for registration at

[1:22:58] 12. So, if to arrive, we'll make sure

[1:23:00] that you get your pass. Um proxies to be

[1:23:05] received by me by Friday, 23rd October,

[1:23:09] noon. Um because of the date of the SGM,

[1:23:13] the Kalyanamitta cleaning day, which is

[1:23:15] usually scheduled for

[1:23:17] the third the sorry, the last Sunday of

[1:23:19] the month, will not happen. However, we

[1:23:21] are

[1:23:22] just given the summer months and the

[1:23:24] grass growing much faster, we are hoping

[1:23:27] for

[1:23:28] the following week to have a bit of a

[1:23:30] replacement Kalyanamitta Kalyanamitta

[1:23:33] cleaning day. Um

[1:23:36] Next one is just a reminder the robe

[1:23:38] offering ceremony is on the 15th of

[1:23:41] November.

[1:23:42] There was a special Kathina newsletter

[1:23:44] that went out

[1:23:45] yesterday or as I say, Thursday. Um

[1:23:50] That's the main things. Any questions

[1:23:52] though, please reach out. Um in terms of

[1:23:56] upcoming retreats, we're towards the

[1:23:58] back end of Vassa, but um there's still

[1:24:02] >> [laughter]

[1:24:02] >> There there it is.

[1:24:03] The next one.

[1:24:05] >> Um there's still I guess self-retreats

[1:24:08] uh

[1:24:08] that

[1:24:09] minimum of 1 week requirement. If you're

[1:24:11] interested, please go to the website.

[1:24:14] Bhante Joe's retreat on the 30th to the

[1:24:16] 4th of So, sorry, 30th October to 4th

[1:24:19] November is fully booked, but the

[1:24:20] waitlist is open.

[1:24:22] And Ajahn Chundo and Bodhi Duggirala's

[1:24:25] retreat on the 27th November to 2nd of

[1:24:27] December is open for registrations.

[1:24:31] And Monday night meditation is Ajahn

[1:24:33] Nyanasara again. Thank you.

[1:24:34] >> Guess what?

[1:24:36] For giving us

[1:24:37] >> And next week

[1:24:39] >> [laughter]

[1:24:39] >> the teachings will be led on Sunday and

[1:24:42] Monday night both by Ajahn Suddhiro.

[1:24:45] On that note, Ajahn, did you have any

[1:24:46] announcements yourself?

[1:24:48] >> No, that's fine. I think I've got

[1:24:49] transport for Tuesday cuz someone did a

[1:24:52] offer a while ago, so yeah.

[1:24:54] If it's still going, yeah. All right,

[1:24:57] thank you. And now we can just pay

[1:24:59] respects to those who'd like to to the

[1:25:01] Buddha, Dhamma, and Sangha. Maybe we can

[1:25:02] do the chant. I don't do this very

[1:25:05] often, I always do it at the monastery,

[1:25:07] but cuz many people don't know it, but

[1:25:09] you catch on to it pretty quick. It's in

[1:25:11] Pali.

[1:25:12] >> And once we finish doing the closing led

[1:25:15] by Ajahn Nyanasara, if we can please

[1:25:17] allow Ajahn to please leave the hall

[1:25:19] first and then

[1:25:21] later to you to follow thereafter. Thank

[1:25:23] you.

[1:25:24] >> All right, thanks. I'll try and speed

[1:25:25] up.

[1:25:27] >> Sorry, one last one. I found a set of

[1:25:29] keys. If anyone is missing a set of

[1:25:31] keys, please come and see me. Thank you.

[1:25:34] >> They'll probably know just when they go

[1:25:35] to the car, I think.

[1:25:49] >> [singing]

[1:26:07] [singing]

[1:26:17] >> All right.

[1:26:18] >> All right.

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In this talk, Ajahn Nissarano says forgiveness is clearly part of Buddhism, even though the word appears rarely in the sutras. He points to the Vinaya, the monks' rules, where monks ask forgiveness of one another for anything done through body, speech or mind, and to a common chant asking forgiveness of the Buddha, Dhamma and Sangha.
Ajahn Nissarano suggests the Buddha was addressing the inner condition of the mind rather than a transaction between two people. The teaching focuses on ending hatred through non-hate, which works on the person carrying the grievance. The excerpt cuts off before he completes his full explanation.
Ajahn Nissarano says that the most important person to forgive is usually oneself, and that once you can do this, forgiving others becomes much easier. Forgiving yourself does not mean excusing your mistakes; it means not letting your own failings become the permanent centre of your mind.
The verse teaches that hostility cannot be resolved by more hostility, and that it ends through non-hate alone. Ajahn Nissarano recites it and links it to the recognition of mortality: for those who realise this, quarrels end. The point is that the change happens inside the person who was carrying hatred.
The Metta Sutta is a discourse on loving-kindness, and in this talk it is chanted in English as part of the opening ritual, after the refuges and precepts. It describes radiating kindness over the entire world and sustaining that recollection whether standing, walking, sitting or lying down.
Vipallasa is a Pali term that Ajahn Nissarano uses when discussing how perceptions shape our reactions to others. Commonly rendered as perversions or distortions of perception, it names the way the mind builds a false picture and then reacts to that picture. The talk gives only the setup for the term in the section available here.
Ajahn Nissarano emphasises doing it directly, person to person, and reflecting on the state of mind of the person who caused harm. Begin by noticing the hurt without rehearsing it, then look at your own part in the story, and let the grip loosen even partially.

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