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[0:00] So, we've arrived at the fourth uh
[0:04] thought of the four thoughts that turn
[0:06] the mind towards the dharma in this
[0:09] little minieries that I've been doing on
[0:11] them. And uh this uh fourth thought we
[0:15] often describe as reflecting on the
[0:18] defects of samsara as a whole. And even
[0:21] though in practice the four thoughts
[0:23] that turn the mind aren't necessarily
[0:25] linear when we study them uh this fourth
[0:28] one is is centered as last of the four
[0:32] often because it leads into taking uh
[0:35] refuge in the three jewels the Buddha
[0:37] Dharma Sana and then uh moving into
[0:41] bodhicitta
[0:42] uh from there and the rest of the path.
[0:45] So, as I've said before in my
[0:47] introduction as well as some of the
[0:49] other videos, each of these four
[0:51] thoughts that turn the mind towards the
[0:53] dharma has a very specific way it's um
[0:56] helping us to see something new about
[0:59] ourselves uh life and the world around
[1:01] us. Um they also have a very specific um
[1:05] uh or I should say specific plural
[1:08] things that get evoked through the
[1:11] reflection and meditation on these. And
[1:14] just a quick reminder uh normally we do
[1:16] apply these in the three ways that we
[1:19] apply to most dharma uh which is
[1:22] learning, reflection and meditation. And
[1:24] so often when we struggle with something
[1:27] or we don't understand it, it it's a
[1:29] sign we need to just study a little bit
[1:31] more and learn about it. And then in
[1:33] reflection is when we get to work out um
[1:36] our disagreements, our biases, maybe uh
[1:39] not quite sure if we agree or find it
[1:42] valuable. Right? So again, uh just as
[1:46] I've been uh portraying throughout, you
[1:49] know, this whole little minieries here,
[1:51] um the goal is not to believe something
[1:53] necessarily. Um more I would say an
[1:56] important part of the four thoughts that
[1:58] turn the mind towards the dharma is a
[2:00] reflection that we can bring in to
[2:02] deepen our experience of reality to
[2:04] deepen our experience of the dharma.
[2:07] also as I pointed out as a way to grow
[2:11] more of a sense sense of exhaustion with
[2:13] the causes of suffering and and
[2:15] therefore move the mind more towards the
[2:17] causes of liberation and awakening and
[2:19] these four thoughts are you know pretty
[2:21] embedded in in a more um quote religious
[2:25] approach to the dharma though I don't
[2:27] know it doesn't really
[2:29] sit like that for me personally but
[2:31] again it's been many years uh studying
[2:33] reflecting on meditating on these four
[2:35] thoughts and um deriving some benefit um
[2:40] which has helped me a lot uh not only in
[2:43] my practice but in just how I meet life
[2:44] and meet my uh delusion and meet my
[2:47] destructive emotions and and and you
[2:50] know confused mind all of that. So that
[2:53] that I will say that that takes some
[2:54] time. It's not immediate and as I've
[2:57] said earlier you know we we go at our
[3:00] own pace. We go slow. There's no rush.
[3:03] Um it's just about keeping an open mind.
[3:05] It's not about, you know, developing a
[3:07] new belief system right away
[3:08] necessarily, right? And again, in
[3:10] Buddhism as a whole, my whole
[3:12] perspective is that it's not about
[3:14] belief in and of itself. We already have
[3:16] lots of beliefs. Um, it's about
[3:18] understanding why we believe what we
[3:20] believe. Um, reflecting on that, drawing
[3:23] out uh fallacies or faults in that,
[3:25] drawing out truths or deepening truths.
[3:28] And the same thing applies here, right?
[3:30] A lot of people when it comes to a more
[3:32] spiritual religious path um they they
[3:36] sort of first look at it as as a set of
[3:38] beliefs. No, it's a set of prompts. It's
[3:40] a set of you know trying to see uh in a
[3:43] deeper way how the mind works, how the
[3:46] causes of suffering and the causes of
[3:47] happiness work and how to remove the
[3:49] causes of suffering, right? Um that's at
[3:52] least the premise in in Buddha Dharma.
[3:54] >> [clears throat]
[3:55] >> With that said, of course, there's a lot
[3:57] of temporary beliefs that are difficult
[3:59] to prove empirically or difficult to
[4:02] even make sense of right away. And we're
[4:04] going to encounter some of those uh in a
[4:06] moment. So, that's all just to encourage
[4:08] um taking this stuff at at at you know,
[4:10] at a pace that's uh sane for us as well
[4:14] as uh keeping an open mind, but also um
[4:17] bringing some skepticism is okay. But
[4:20] skepticism, skepticism can turn into uh
[4:23] doubt and solidify into doubt when we
[4:25] stop learning, when we stop inquiring.
[4:27] So essentially, we can look at these as
[4:30] um prompts for inquiry. Right? That's
[4:32] another way to look at them.
[4:35] But with that said, let's go ahead into
[4:37] um this this fourth and final uh uh
[4:40] reflection uh of the four thoughts that
[4:42] turn the mind towards the dharma. And
[4:44] this one, as I said, is on the the
[4:46] defects of samsara. So what is samsara?
[4:49] Samsara can be explained quite plainly
[4:52] um and it can also be explained um
[4:57] profoundly, right? Uh and so in my
[5:01] experience of of studying and
[5:03] understanding my own samsaric nature or
[5:06] my own samsaric confusion,
[5:08] the deeper more profound aspects of it
[5:10] are sometimes not not even visible until
[5:12] we just face and work with uh the more
[5:15] more easily seen. So one way uh to think
[5:19] of samsara is is in the definition of of
[5:23] what it what it can mean literally which
[5:25] is just to circle right and so one
[5:28] expression of that we're going to uh
[5:30] look at within this fourth thought is
[5:33] circling throughout the six realms of
[5:35] samsara or or taking existence or birth
[5:39] in in these six realms again and again
[5:41] and that's not a linear thing it's not a
[5:44] um I don't know uh yes there's kind of a
[5:47] hierarchy key to the realms, but it's a
[5:48] circling, right? And and that's what I
[5:50] want to keep that's what I want to keep
[5:52] centered as the main point here because
[5:55] it's not the realms in themselves. It's
[5:58] the never- ending circling and not
[6:00] knowing how to get out and essentially
[6:02] just circling between um more states of
[6:06] existence, more states of of various
[6:09] kinds of duka or dissatisfaction uh and
[6:12] suffering and primarily just being
[6:15] confused about what are the causes of
[6:18] freedom and liberation, what are the
[6:20] causes of suffering and therefore
[6:22] circling. So that's one way uh uh that
[6:24] that samsara is typically described
[6:27] embodied in these six realms of
[6:29] existence which we'll get to in a
[6:31] moment.
[6:32] Um another way to think of it which
[6:34] sometimes for especially for those of us
[6:36] who just we have a huge all allergy
[6:38] towards reflecting on anything outside
[6:40] of what we can see or perceive. Um which
[6:44] I understand. Um and in that way we can
[6:47] think of samsara as circling moment to
[6:49] moment in just not knowing where to
[6:52] land, not knowing you know where where
[6:55] to where is solid ground where we can
[6:56] put our feet where the rug is not going
[6:59] to be pulled out from under us. Right?
[7:02] And what I mean by that is this can be
[7:04] as big as sort of clinging to permanence
[7:07] unconsciously and then something changes
[7:10] uh dramatically and it it just really
[7:12] throws us off in our life and we don't
[7:14] know how to recover from that and um
[7:17] this happens to all of us right and
[7:18] there's nothing wrong with you or me for
[7:20] it happening but this is a mechanism of
[7:22] samsara so that could be one way of
[7:25] talking about pulling the rug out
[7:27] another way is just sort of life and
[7:30] change and unwanted things um happening
[7:34] all the time and a lack of control. We
[7:36] cannot control suffering. We cannot
[7:39] control dissatisfaction, right? And of
[7:41] course, this is frustrating for most of
[7:44] us to say the least. And a lot of us are
[7:48] constantly seeking an out from that
[7:50] whether we think we are or not. So this
[7:52] is often what I would say the first
[7:54] place to look. Are we always seeking
[7:58] something else? Right? And that could be
[8:00] as simple as uh we had um something very
[8:05] a very enjoyable time, a very enjoyable
[8:07] experience and yet it wasn't enough and
[8:09] we want it again or we want more or we
[8:12] are satisfied for a period of time and
[8:13] then we become dissatisfied and want
[8:15] something else. Right? Um you know
[8:18] that's one example. Of course, another
[8:21] example and a little bit more easily
[8:23] seen is when we directly do not like an
[8:26] experience. When we really want to get
[8:28] away from it and we are looking to
[8:31] avoid, get away,
[8:34] solve all of that. Right now, I'm not
[8:38] saying don't try to solve your problems.
[8:40] I'm not saying don't try to improve your
[8:43] life and situation and and and you know,
[8:45] the life of others around you. That's
[8:47] not the point. The point is the
[8:49] mechanism of seeking some kind of
[8:51] solution in and of itself that there's
[8:53] going to be a solution, an ultimate
[8:55] solution where we never will experience
[8:57] dissatisfaction, pain,
[9:00] heartbreak again. Right? And that is a
[9:04] delusion. That is not true. Now that's
[9:07] also something we need to discover for
[9:10] ourselves. That so that's also part of
[9:12] the reflection on the defects of
[9:14] samsara, right? I would call that a
[9:15] little bit more of the inner reflection.
[9:17] And that's where I'm going to focus
[9:18] today. The outer reflection is actually
[9:20] us usually where they start more in the
[9:22] embodiment of what samsara looks like um
[9:25] both in human realms and outside of
[9:27] human realms. But as I've seen in in for
[9:30] modern seekers, uh this is tough because
[9:33] it it seems like you know someone's
[9:35] trying to shove a religious view uh
[9:37] about something you know some other kind
[9:39] of fantasy down your throat. So again, I
[9:42] understand that sentiment. So we can
[9:44] reorder the process of how we're looking
[9:46] at samsara. Right? So that's what I'm
[9:48] doing here. But with that said, it
[9:50] doesn't mean we don't want to go back at
[9:52] some point and work with the outer
[9:54] representation of it either because it
[9:56] doesn't mean just because we don't
[9:57] believe it or we think it's fantasy that
[9:59] it's not true. That those that logic
[10:02] does not add up. Right? Just saying.
[10:04] Right? So I'll just name them and then
[10:07] we can move on quickly to more a more
[10:09] inner reflection uh on the nature of
[10:11] samsara or the defects of samsara. And
[10:14] so the outer reflection as I said is on
[10:16] these six realms. So two of them we can
[10:18] see and one of them we have direct
[10:19] experience of. So uh the human realm
[10:23] which in itself is quite a variety right
[10:25] we know can be lots of highs can be lots
[10:28] of lows uh can be sort of godlike
[10:33] experiences of uh wealth and opulence
[10:37] and pleasure and hell-like experiences
[10:40] uh of of extreme hunger pain war etc. We
[10:43] know the human realm has this this big
[10:46] display a vast array of experience.
[10:50] Um so that's one of the six realms.
[10:52] Another one uh which we consider
[10:54] slightly um below um human realm and not
[10:57] below in that animals are unworthy or
[11:00] not to be loved or not or give
[11:02] permission in any way to dominate them.
[11:04] That's not the point. The point is more
[11:06] the perspective on how um the body
[11:08] itself like the makeup of the aggregates
[11:11] allow dharma to be practiced. That's
[11:14] really the only hierarchy uh I've seen.
[11:17] So, so this second realm is the animal
[11:19] realm which we can see and it's much
[11:21] more vast than the human realm cuz we're
[11:23] talking not only dogs and cats and pets,
[11:26] we're talking wild animals, um, insects,
[11:30] fish, you know, just the trillions upon
[11:35] trillions of [clears throat] sea
[11:38] creatures, right? So, we're talking
[11:39] about something massive, much larger
[11:42] than the human realm. It can seem like
[11:45] the human realm in our world um is large
[11:48] with it, you know, 8 billion and
[11:49] climbing uh people in the world. Um but
[11:52] the animal realm, if you just think
[11:54] about it or you watch some animal shows,
[11:56] you know, or you just research it a
[11:58] little bit, it's I don't even know it's
[12:00] there's even a number to count the
[12:02] amount of animals in the world. And
[12:04] that's just talking about this world,
[12:06] right?
[12:07] um there, you know, I'm not going to get
[12:09] into any sort of theories here, but but
[12:11] it's a large universe and most likely
[12:13] there's other kinds of humanlike beings
[12:15] and or animals. So that's that's two of
[12:17] the realms, right? And so usually how we
[12:19] organize this is into the three higher
[12:21] realms and the three lower realms.
[12:22] Again, higher and lower just has to do
[12:24] more with less suffering and more
[12:26] freedom uh to practice dharma. So the
[12:28] human realm as we already discussed in
[12:30] the first of the four thoughts and
[12:31] precious human birth, the human realm is
[12:35] the most helpful for practicing dharma
[12:37] because we have just enough suffering
[12:40] that we feel dissatisfied but not too
[12:42] much suffering uh where we can't do
[12:45] something about it where um in the
[12:47] animal realms most animals don't have
[12:49] the capacity uh to to investigate that.
[12:53] Now again that might depend on the type
[12:55] of animal and things like that. I'm not
[12:57] going to get into the weeds here, but
[12:58] we're just talking generally.
[13:01] So, a human realm would be the first of
[13:03] the three higher realms. Uh, the animal
[13:05] realm would be the first of the three
[13:06] lower realms. Um, so the three the other
[13:10] two higher realms are um often expressed
[13:13] as deva realms. And deva is a tricky
[13:17] word to um
[13:20] it's a tricky word to translate because
[13:21] it kind of translates as like it can
[13:23] translate as god realms but it's not
[13:25] like god like the god or theistic god or
[13:27] something like that. It's more like
[13:29] beings who um are are godlike and and
[13:32] probably the closest thing we have in
[13:34] western culture to this is is like you
[13:37] know Greek and Roman gods like all those
[13:39] stories and myths and all of that. um
[13:43] very similar to the way they think of
[13:44] the dev realms in Indic cosmology as
[13:47] well. Um and there's there's there's
[13:50] basically there's many types of deva
[13:52] realms, but there's two kinds that make
[13:54] up the other two of the higher realms.
[13:57] One is called the the form, you know,
[13:59] the the the god realm or the deva realm
[14:01] with form where they have some kind of a
[14:03] body or light body. Um and then there's
[14:06] there's a dev realm where there's no
[14:08] there's no body, there's just mind. And
[14:11] those are the highest realms or the
[14:13] picos I'm sorry where someone can often
[14:16] uh someone can often attain those
[14:17] through um
[14:20] concentration meditation alone where
[14:23] their mind becomes very very focused and
[14:25] then they're accumulating the karma to
[14:27] take birth there. Anyways, I'm just
[14:30] giving you some of the co cosmology,
[14:32] right? I'm just repeating you don't have
[14:33] to believe any of this necessarily. Just
[14:35] giving you the cosmology.
[14:38] So that would be the the three higher
[14:40] realms. Human uh deva realm with form,
[14:43] deva realm without form, meaning no body
[14:45] or anything like that, just
[14:46] consciousness.
[14:48] Now the three lower realms I already
[14:49] named the animal realm. Then we have
[14:51] something called the preto realm. Uh
[14:52] often this is translated as a hungry as
[14:55] a hungry ghost. Um it's it's it's it's
[14:58] an okay translation but it's a difficult
[15:00] RAM to describe because these kinds of
[15:03] beings we we can't generally see uh
[15:05] throughout Indic throughout history in
[15:07] India and and Buddhist history and Hindu
[15:09] history some people can actually
[15:11] interact with these pto beings um and um
[15:14] they're not animals uh they're not like
[15:16] ghosts in the way we would normally
[15:18] think of as a ghost but they're beings
[15:20] with extreme difficulty in receiving
[15:23] food and getting proper shelter. They
[15:26] suffer from a lot of problems with heat,
[15:28] a lot of problems with cold. Um not able
[15:31] to drink liquid or or eat. So there's a
[15:34] lot of um physical [clears throat] pain
[15:35] in that sense. And there are also lots
[15:38] of different kinds of predas. Um not all
[15:40] of them are exactly that. But it is
[15:43] considered a realm with a lot of
[15:45] suffering and and so much so that it's
[15:48] very difficult to practice dharma from
[15:49] within that realm and to you know
[15:51] liberate oneself and others. Now, the
[15:55] last of them um often becomes one of the
[15:58] more triggering ones for people because
[16:00] if we grew up with Judeo-Christian
[16:02] traditions and we grow up specifically
[16:04] with ones uh where we were taught about
[16:07] um hell very early on or or or it was
[16:09] used as a punishment technique to get us
[16:12] to behave. Um sometimes we can have
[16:14] strong reactions to um that you know
[16:17] that in Buddhism in in Indic cosmology
[16:20] they also uh say there are hell realms
[16:22] uh that can um we can be born into. You
[16:26] know how these differ is they're not
[16:28] eternal. Uh it's not something where
[16:30] you're permanently, you know, there. Um,
[16:33] and how they're the same is um they they
[16:36] can
[16:38] look a little bit like at least the
[16:40] description of them look [clears throat]
[16:42] a little bit like um some of the western
[16:44] descriptions of various hell realms. Uh
[16:46] generally in Buddhist cosmology there's
[16:49] um uh eight hot hells, eight cold hells
[16:52] and primarily the suffering is you know
[16:54] just as I said related to cold or
[16:57] related to heat. Um, and then there's
[16:59] all kinds of peripheral hells and
[17:01] different experiences. And basically
[17:02] what it's saying is that due to
[17:07] extremely uh destructive actions um
[17:10] we're talking um really harmful actions
[17:14] done to others uh that the karmic
[17:16] ripening can can take results a as birth
[17:19] or existence in one of these realms and
[17:22] it can take a really long time to get
[17:23] out into some of the higher realms. And
[17:26] just back to my point, of course I, you
[17:29] know, none of us, if if it's true and
[17:31] they exist, I, you know, I don't know,
[17:34] uh, but if it's true and they exist, um,
[17:36] we definitely don't want to end up
[17:37] there. And, um, also, we don't want
[17:40] anyone else to end up there. It's, it's
[17:42] not something we would wish on our worst
[17:43] enemy. We're talking about it. We're
[17:45] [clears throat] talking about extremely
[17:46] painful uh, experiences here. Definitely
[17:49] no ability to even hear the word dharma
[17:51] or hear even the word kindness. uh just
[17:54] imagine a place like that. Now as I
[17:57] already said in the human realm we can
[17:58] see the diversity of these kinds of
[18:00] realms um appearing also in the human
[18:03] realm. So that's a way we can start
[18:04] reflecting on these kinds of things more
[18:06] like hellish experiences in the world
[18:09] animallike experiences in the world you
[18:11] know deva realm like experiences in the
[18:14] world and the main reason we reflect on
[18:16] this is to create an exhaustion with
[18:19] existence itself. Right now again when I
[18:22] say exhaustion with existence we're not
[18:24] then seeking non-existence that's not
[18:26] actually possible. But what I mean by
[18:27] existence here is a self embodied in a
[18:31] place where we're confused and we're not
[18:33] able to discern uh what are the causes
[18:36] of freedom and what are the causes of
[18:37] suffering right and so um as I already
[18:41] said that you know this is a difficult
[18:43] starting place for most modern
[18:44] meditators who are interested in you
[18:47] know working with the four thoughts um
[18:49] and so it's okay you can go to the more
[18:51] inner work which I'm going to present
[18:52] now um but at some point it is useful to
[18:55] turn back towards these Um it was not
[18:58] easy over the years to incorporate
[19:01] meditations on these basically
[19:03] reflections on what it would be like to
[19:05] be born in these different kinds of
[19:07] births. Um it was not easy first of all
[19:09] to to do that for a lot of years and
[19:12] then of course it brings in other things
[19:14] like rebirth itself which we already
[19:16] talked about which can be um somewhat of
[19:19] a contentious issue for modern people um
[19:22] as we have difficulty coming outside of
[19:26] the empirical
[19:28] um when actually nothing is empirical
[19:30] but that's another that's another video
[19:33] so I'm not going to go there and and
[19:35] anyways I I don't personally believe and
[19:38] uh like being pushy around these kinds
[19:40] of things cuz we really have to kind of
[19:42] see the benefit in wanting to meditate
[19:43] on on the on the six realms and then we
[19:46] will do it and we'll we'll get benefit
[19:48] from it otherwise it might create more
[19:50] resistance or for some people with
[19:53] previous religious trauma it might
[19:55] create more trauma. So with that said I
[19:58] just wanted to you know cover my bases
[20:00] there. Um, one of my favorite
[20:02] reflections to bring into um, a
[20:05] reflection on the overall defects of
[20:06] samsara is through um, the three types
[20:09] of duka, right? So, duka we are I I
[20:12] believe we already covered in this
[20:13] minieries. Um, duka is is a Sanskrit and
[20:16] poly word uh, representing
[20:19] more than suffering. Uh there's not
[20:21] really a great translation for it, like
[20:23] a single word translation, but often we
[20:26] can see pain, suffering,
[20:27] dissatisfaction, confusion, delusion. Um
[20:31] there's all kinds of different ways duka
[20:33] manifests basically. But fundamentally,
[20:36] dooka is um a confusion that binds us to
[20:39] samsaric existence. It binds us into
[20:41] that circling I was just talking about.
[20:44] That circling [clears throat] can be
[20:45] moment to moment, right? in craving and
[20:48] aversion, one or the other, or fear and
[20:50] expectation. There's many ways to talk
[20:52] about this. And the most important is
[20:54] that we're investigating to see that for
[20:56] oursel because then we're going to want
[20:57] to turn the mind right towards
[21:00] practicing the dharma more and seeing
[21:02] how to act, how reality actually is, how
[21:05] to work with our mind in a wholesome
[21:06] way, how to work with our delusions in a
[21:10] wholesome way and afflictive emotions.
[21:12] But anyways, so dooka is um uh more or
[21:16] less the status quo of samsaric
[21:19] existence. Whatever realm we end up in,
[21:22] there's going to be dooka. There might
[21:23] be less of it in a formless realm like a
[21:26] deva without a body uh and more of it in
[21:28] a hell realm. But the truth is it's it's
[21:31] still embedded there. It's just a
[21:32] different form of it. So these three
[21:34] types of dooka uh the first one is the
[21:36] dook of duka or the dissatisfaction of
[21:38] dissatisfaction. The second type is the
[21:41] duca of change uh or the the
[21:43] dissatisfaction of change. And the third
[21:45] type is all perverasive duka or all
[21:47] pervasive dissatisfaction.
[21:49] And um generally these three types cover
[21:53] most duka that can be experienced within
[21:56] samsara. And so we reflect on it. And
[21:58] why do we reflect on it? Going back to
[22:00] some principles here, we're not
[22:02] reflecting on it to bum ourselves out.
[22:04] We're not reflecting on it to dwell on
[22:06] it. We're not reflecting on it to become
[22:09] an uber religious person. We're
[22:11] reflecting as a prompt to see is that
[22:14] true? Because from that, if we do start
[22:17] to see some truth through direct
[22:19] experience in meditation, um we are
[22:21] going to want to change that, right? We
[22:24] are going to want to remedy duka, which
[22:27] is one of the primary teachings of the
[22:29] Buddha, right? Embedded in the formal
[22:30] truths. So, Duka, Duke of Duka is not
[22:35] difficult. This is one where I mean it's
[22:38] not difficult to understand. Uh we still
[22:39] need to reflect on it and derive
[22:41] experience but this would be the things
[22:44] the Duke of Duka would be the things
[22:45] that we primarily know as
[22:48] dissatisfactory
[22:50] as painful or um undesirable um as
[22:54] suffering. all the things from big
[22:56] things like like getting you know
[22:58] getting a a sickness uh serious illness
[23:01] to just you know our bagel not coming
[23:05] out the right way out of the toaster
[23:06] right like really really it does include
[23:09] all of that. So it still is actually
[23:11] quite a wide range but anything we could
[23:13] label as like this is undesirable right
[23:16] from small things to big things. Duke of
[23:18] change is when it gets uh very
[23:21] interesting. Um it's not the fact that
[23:23] things do change, right? That's actually
[23:25] not a problem. That's actually a plus.
[23:27] Uh impermanence is actually a plus when
[23:29] we Anyways, it's not the topic of today,
[23:32] so I won't go into it. But um the Duke
[23:35] of Change more is has to do with
[23:37] craving. It has to do with um when we
[23:42] assume within an experience that it's
[23:45] going to provide us the pleasure, the
[23:48] outcome, um yeah, the the goal that we
[23:53] intended or wanted.
[23:55] And when we look, again, this isn't
[23:58] something I'm telling you to believe.
[23:59] This is something you'll need to
[24:00] investigate for yourself. When we look,
[24:02] we can see it's the opposite. things
[24:04] actually decline in pleasure the more we
[24:06] engage with it. Right? So, a pretty
[24:09] classic example that's used often in
[24:12] this department in Buddhist teachings is
[24:14] sitting down and standing up. So, I've
[24:16] been sitting for quite a while because
[24:17] I've been doing multiple interviews and
[24:19] videos today. And yes, I am looking
[24:21] forward to getting up. [laughter] Why?
[24:23] Because I have a body and when gravity
[24:25] applies to that body, my lower body
[24:28] starts to hurt. Uh right. You can
[24:30] imagine uh in your own experience. Now
[24:35] when I stand up after finishing
[24:37] recording this um
[24:40] I will feel a little bit of an ah most
[24:43] likely oh relief you know right?
[24:47] But the question is is that really
[24:50] relief? Because then I will stand and
[24:53] let's assume I'm going to stand for
[24:54] another 30 minutes, 45 minutes,
[24:56] whatever. At some point I'm going to
[24:58] develop the wish or desire to sit and
[25:01] when I sit there's going to be that very
[25:03] same experience of ah finally right. So
[25:07] what the duke of changes is it's the
[25:09] start of duca this this subtler kind of
[25:12] dooka or dissatisfaction of nothing
[25:14] quite being satisfactory. Right. And
[25:17] this does depend on aggregates like this
[25:19] depends on having a body and mind that's
[25:21] um embedded in samsara right now. Um and
[25:26] of course conditions but I think we can
[25:29] all relate to that. And what this does
[25:31] if we really take it into practice it
[25:33] bursts the bubble of finding a place to
[25:37] land. So strangely in in Buddha Dharma
[25:41] what's kind of unique is there's not
[25:44] some kind of other solution we're going
[25:46] to find. It's actually resolving
[25:48] solution mentality itself. And when we
[25:51] resolve that we find um it's not quite
[25:55] contentment. Maybe you could say the
[25:56] word contentment. We find our open
[25:59] spacious nature which was never touched
[26:02] by duca isn't duca right but experience
[26:06] can move through it. So [laughter]
[26:08] that's definitely on the deeper end, but
[26:10] I just want to say say that here because
[26:12] that's important because uh for me I
[26:15] have to, you know, uh quite often I have
[26:18] to remember why I'm doing something
[26:20] because if I'm just reflecting on like,
[26:22] oh, the second bite of this ice cream is
[26:24] going to be is going to be less
[26:26] satisfactory than the first. I don't
[26:28] know what's the point of that. The point
[26:30] is to not be attached to the damn ice
[26:32] cream, right? Because I'm going to
[26:34] suffer less if I have less craving for
[26:35] it. Does it mean I have to stop eating
[26:37] ice cream? No. I mean, it could mean
[26:39] that, but it doesn't need to mean that.
[26:41] So, the fundamental problem is not the
[26:43] thing. The problem is how we're
[26:44] interacting with it. And in order to
[26:46] change that, we have all these different
[26:48] pathways in dharma. So, this is one of
[26:50] those pathways. Right? Now, the third
[26:53] type of duka is is even more subtle.
[26:56] Right? Um, it does take some awareness
[26:58] and and and pretty serious mindfulness
[27:01] practice to to be able to see the second
[27:04] one because we have to see the mind
[27:06] engaging in um craving itself which
[27:10] which is hard. That does take some some
[27:12] practice to be able to develop that kind
[27:14] of awareness. Um where the third um
[27:18] there's there can be like more of a
[27:19] principle to it but also an even subtler
[27:22] thing to see with the mind. So I've
[27:24] heard this described in two ways. Uh the
[27:26] classic way is more that uh uh more
[27:30] having to do with the five aggregates
[27:32] which have to do with the makeup or the
[27:34] heaps of body and mind. And once the the
[27:38] the the five aggregates or or the heaps
[27:41] of body and mind have come together at
[27:43] the time of birth um it's pervaded by
[27:47] dooka because it's inevitable we're
[27:48] going to experience a variety of
[27:50] unwanted things right including uh birth
[27:54] old age sickness and death right the
[27:55] what we call the four rivers in in
[27:57] Buddhism.
[27:58] Um so so there's that that's kind of
[28:01] more the classic example which again can
[28:04] sound quite dire. It's not just we have
[28:07] to change our vantage point of how we're
[28:08] looking at it. But um I I prefer this
[28:12] description from Mingramsh and we'll see
[28:14] if I if I get it close to what he said.
[28:17] Um which is more um an underlying um
[28:21] it's not quite anxiety. It's more like a
[28:23] dis an underlying discontent that's
[28:25] almost imperceptible.
[28:27] And um how this is described is more
[28:30] this sense of never feeling quite at
[28:33] ease or like things are okay. There's
[28:35] always at some point we need to do
[28:37] something else. At some point we need to
[28:39] move. At some point we need to do
[28:41] another activity. Um yes, can we do one
[28:45] activity or be in one state for a long
[28:47] time? Sure. Like we can, you know, enjoy
[28:49] relaxing for a a good portion of the
[28:52] day. At some point we're going to start
[28:54] to feel dissatisfied with that. we're
[28:56] going to start to feel like antsy or
[28:58] unsettled.
[29:00] So that's also one definition I've heard
[29:02] of of the of all pervasive dooka. It's
[29:04] sort of pervading the experience where
[29:06] we never feel okay. And and so that's
[29:10] the bad news. The good news is that's
[29:12] actually not our nature. So it's another
[29:14] way to reflect on why would I even want
[29:16] to reflect or meditate on these things
[29:18] is because it's not our nature. And so
[29:20] when we see more of what's not our
[29:21] nature, actually it can lead to our
[29:23] nature. That's one way the the dharma
[29:25] works. I can't tell you the mechanism of
[29:27] that, but that's uh it can do that. It
[29:31] can work that way. So a reflection on
[29:33] duka in this case is not just a giant
[29:35] bummer all the time. It actually helps
[29:38] us to see the causes of duka more and
[29:40] then of course we can start to move away
[29:41] from them. But the allpervasive one is
[29:44] tough because when we have a a sense of
[29:46] self, a sense of I, me and mine, uh
[29:49] we're going to you know, vacasillate
[29:51] between um you know, wanting this and
[29:56] then getting tired of that and wanting
[29:58] something else.
[30:00] So, let's go ahead and do some practice
[30:02] uh as we've been doing in this series.
[30:04] And we'll go ahead and and mostly
[30:06] meditate on the second type, right? So
[30:08] as usual just take a posture that works
[30:11] well for about five minutes or so of
[30:14] reflective meditation. Again moving
[30:16] between chigum analytical and jook
[30:19] resting.
[30:22] Then as you settle into the body finding
[30:25] a relaxed yet alert posture. If you want
[30:26] to keep your eyes open closed or halfway
[30:29] open whatever works for you. And if you
[30:33] have a practice of being mindful of
[30:35] breath already great. You can go ahead
[30:37] and start to connect with the breath.
[30:45] Also, any kind of anchor
[30:48] for bringing your attention into the
[30:51] present moment more is useful here or
[30:53] just finding
[30:56] a sense of settling into now.
[31:00] Just as a preliminary
[31:17] and now we can also bring in a
[31:18] motivation. I want to see the truth.
[31:21] Even if that truth proves the Buddha or
[31:24] anyone else wrong or proves me wrong, I
[31:27] want to see the truth. So, it's not a
[31:29] seeking of someone else's idea. It's a
[31:31] seeking of how things are.
[31:34] And why do we want to see the truth?
[31:36] Because we have care and warmth and love
[31:38] for ourel and others.
[31:49] Now you can bring into your imagination
[31:53] an experience like the one I already
[31:55] shared. uh having stood up for a long
[31:59] time, maybe walked a lot during the day,
[32:02] either at work or maybe out in nature or
[32:06] just being in a city and walking a lot.
[32:08] So, recall a time when that was
[32:10] happening.
[32:19] And I can bring into your imagination
[32:22] and reflection what it felt like to sit
[32:26] down after all of that standing and
[32:28] walking.
[32:31] And again, this kind of reflection can
[32:33] also be done on the spot. But since
[32:36] we're
[32:38] here on
[32:41] YouTube video or an audio podcast,
[32:44] we can simply just use our imagination.
[32:49] I want you to imagine the relief of
[32:52] sitting down after all that time
[32:54] walking, standing.
[33:01] And was that satisfactory? Was that
[33:04] sufficient? Meaning, did you sit down
[33:07] and that was it? You never had to get up
[33:10] again? [laughter]
[33:12] Now, I don't mean getting up because
[33:14] someone asked you to get up or you
[33:16] needed to do something. I just mean
[33:18] imagine sitting down for enough time
[33:20] that you couldn't bear sitting down
[33:22] anymore. This is important.
[33:29] You couldn't take it anymore. You had to
[33:31] get up.
[33:33] Your back became tight. Your body became
[33:35] kind of stiff and heavy. You just needed
[33:38] to move a little bit, stretch, walk
[33:40] around the house. So imagine that. or
[33:45] bring forth a time when you can remember
[33:47] that happening.
[33:53] Of course, we need to reflect on this
[33:55] quite a bit, but when you have a little
[33:57] bit of an aha moment with this, when it
[34:01] lands in the body, just drop the
[34:04] reflection, drop the investigation, and
[34:08] stay with that
[34:10] that sense of the duke of change.
[34:13] nothing quite being perfect.
[34:19] Now, for some Now, for some of you,
[34:22] sometimes this can arouse sadness.
[34:24] That's okay.
[34:26] Sometimes it can arouse relief. Finally,
[34:30] I don't have to seek
[34:32] perfection anymore.
[34:35] Whatever happens, just be with that. Be
[34:38] with what's get what be with what gets
[34:40] churned out from the reflection itself.
[34:53] Of
[35:04] course, if you want to continue, you can
[35:06] come back to investigating gently that
[35:09] kind of situation or another situation
[35:11] that has more
[35:14] emphasis or power for the practice for
[35:17] you. and then rests.
[35:21] When there's a seeing of that, when
[35:24] there's an arousing of what's been
[35:26] churned, even if you're not exactly sure
[35:29] what that is or can put your finger on
[35:31] it, just drop the investigation be.
[35:38] So, you can alternate like that as much
[35:41] as you want. And when you're ready to
[35:43] close,
[35:44] we can just simply come back to our
[35:46] anchor, breath, body, [clears throat]
[35:48] sense of now.
[36:00] And just simply dedicating the energy
[36:03] from this. May
[36:05] the scene of reality of
[36:10] the truth of reality
[36:13] evoke and naturally uncover more
[36:16] compassion, more openness,
[36:20] more freedom and awakening for the
[36:22] benefit of myself and others.
[36:31] Okay. So that's just a very simple short
[36:34] example of how we can do uh reflection
[36:36] on these three types of dooka. But of
[36:38] course we can take the other two uh as
[36:42] well. Um the first one the duka duka,
[36:44] the third one all pervasive duca. And um
[36:48] I I'll often rotate these. I'll do them
[36:52] formally on on the meditation cushion
[36:54] like we just did. I'll do them
[36:55] informally. I the Duke of Change is
[36:58] something I apply a lot in daily life
[37:01] when I'm really excited about something.
[37:02] I'm not trying to ruin the excitement. I
[37:05] just want to see how things are. I don't
[37:07] want to be stuck in my own fantasy. And
[37:10] so I'll watch my mind engaging with the
[37:12] ice cream or the walk in nature or
[37:16] sitting on the couch finally whatever it
[37:17] is when I remember to do it right. And
[37:20] from this we learn a lot about
[37:22] ourselves. We learn a lot about the mind
[37:25] and primarily we learn that samsara is
[37:28] an inside job, right? Meaning it's not
[37:31] about fixing everything outside of us.
[37:33] It's not that samsara is all out there
[37:35] in the world and they're all screwed up.
[37:38] No, we're seeing through our eyes and
[37:40] our perception, right? And although
[37:42] we're not fundamentally screwed up,
[37:44] there are obscurations that are
[37:46] preventing us from uh encountering our
[37:49] um openness and compassion and a more
[37:52] liberated way way of being. So, I really
[37:55] appreciate you joining me for this
[37:57] series on the four thoughts that turn
[37:59] the mind towards the dharma. I hope uh
[38:01] they're useful uh to you. I hope you
[38:03] found lots of different ways to approach
[38:05] them. As I said, if you're new to him,
[38:08] uh usually study and and some learning
[38:10] could be the first step. And um this is
[38:12] um kind of
[38:15] pretty it's pretty embedded in in
[38:17] traditional Buddhism. So just that comes
[38:19] with some things. You know, you you may
[38:21] have trouble with some of the premises
[38:23] uh and and and beliefs about relative
[38:26] reality behind uh some of these
[38:28] meditations, but you you can also take
[38:30] what you can relate to now and then work
[38:33] with the other stuff later, right? you
[38:35] don't have to if you don't believe
[38:36] everything 100% it doesn't mean you
[38:38] can't benefit from the practice right
[38:41] and um I also am not a believer in like
[38:43] you know throwing the baby out with the
[38:45] bath water just cuz we can't see
[38:46] something or relate to it doesn't mean
[38:47] it's not true right so but we don't have
[38:50] to push ourselves or force ourselves
[38:51] into that as I've said many times
[38:53] throughout this little minieries and I
[38:55] say on my podcast and YouTube channel
[38:57] all the time this is not about um being
[39:00] a believer of something it's about
[39:03] taking in prompts and teachings and
[39:05] understandings to churn them in our own
[39:08] experience so that we can develop our
[39:10] own openness and freedom or right now
[39:13] whether you call that Buddhism or
[39:15] whatever you know it's fine um I don't
[39:18] particularly have an issue uh uh calling
[39:21] myself a Buddhist but that's not like a
[39:23] big identity I need to hold either so I
[39:26] know people struggle with these issues
[39:27] and stuff like that but but if we can my
[39:30] you know if we can get to the point if
[39:31] we can get to the actual like what are
[39:33] we doing here. I think we can cut out a
[39:35] lot of um time wasted and sort of um uh
[39:39] I don't know being stuck in our triggers
[39:42] as well. So, I wish you a lot of luck in
[39:45] this. Um as always, please comment.
[39:47] Please uh feel free to reach out. I
[39:49] always appreciate your questions and
[39:51] comments and um you know, things related
[39:55] to this topic that you have to say. And
[39:58] um yeah, wishing all the best in your
[40:01] practices and your path. Thanks so much.