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[0:00] Why do you think the Book of
Enoch is suddenly everywhere
[0:03] right now?
[0:04] Someone has to be strong enough
to string his bow and shoot the
[0:09] arrow through the 12 axes and
hit the target. Now, this is all
[0:14] related to Enoch. You just
didn't know it. This is the
[0:17] story, and it's the story of
Enoch transcending. And is there
[0:21] some sort of big cataclysm
coming? Maybe in one of the
[0:24] versions of Earth, I can tell
you the way it's connected.
[0:27] There is one very, very large
constellation that we have in
[0:30] the sky that shows up in
virtually almost every sacred
[0:34] site around the world, and it is
Orion. Of course, the flood
[0:39] plays a role in this. Enoch was
alive at the time of the flood.
[0:42] So, do you believe that what
they found is Noah's Ark?
[0:44] I do find that the timing of all
this is very interesting,
[0:47] though, because...
[0:58] I like to welcome back to the
show returning champion Robert
[1:01] Edward Grant, how you doing,
brother?
[1:02] Hey, Alex, how are you?
[1:04] I'm good, man. I'm good. Good to
see you, man. Well, first of
[1:09] all, thanks for obviously be
back on the show. I don't know.
[1:12] This makes I think seven episode
seven that you've been on with
[1:14] me. Well, yeah, it's it's been a
bunch. You've been in studio a
[1:19] few times, but you're a busy man
flying around the world doing a
[1:22] lot of stuff. So I I got you on
Zoom this time. Hopefully next
[1:25] time you're in Austin you can
swing by. But sir, you know
[1:29] there's been a lot of stuff, a
lot of things going on in the
[1:33] world. But one thing I wanted to
kind of dive into with you this
[1:36] in this conversation is
something that I found out just
[1:40] a few moments ago, that you have
been actively reading for the
[1:44] last two weeks, and I just said,
"Hey, man, I want to talk about
[1:47] the Book of Enoch. I really
haven't had a real deep
[1:51] conversation about the Book of
Enoch, and you're like, "How the
[1:53] hell do you know that I've been
reading the Book of Enoch?
[1:55] You're monitoring me.
[2:00] I hacked into your AI, sir, and
it's actually seeing everything
[2:04] you're doing.
[2:05] Wow!
[2:07] So, so
[2:08] Not very interesting. What if
you could see everything I did?
[2:10] You'd probably be like, "That's
pretty boring, man. It's like,
[2:14] Is he is he reading? Is he
reading again? Oh God!
[2:17] Yeah, exactly.
[2:20] So, so let me ask you: Why do
you think the Book of Enoch is
[2:24] suddenly everywhere right now?
It's one of those things that's
[2:26] on the top of a lot of people's
lists, and people are interested
[2:30] in it. And is it is one of those
books that was removed from the
[2:34] Bible? Some people say left out,
but I say it was physically
[2:38] removed because it is, if I'm
not mistaken, in the Ethiopian
[2:41] version of the Bible, it is in
that Bible. So, what? Why do you
[2:45] think the Book of Enoch? Before
we get into what it is, why do
[2:48] you think it's everywhere right
now? A lot of people are asking
[2:50] about it.
[2:51] I think the answer to your
question is actually a question:
[2:56] Why do you think the Odyssey
became the biggest hit movie
[3:00] this summer? And I know you're a
movie buff, so
[3:02] I mean I've seen it twice
already, and in the theater. And
[3:07] I believe that that well,
there's two reasons. One, and
[3:11] the the most important, Chris
Nolan. Chris Nolan has so much
[3:15] good good karma, cinema karma
that he could basically
[3:20] And credibility.
[3:22] Yeah, that's cinema karma and
credibility go hand in hand.
[3:25] Because of him as a filmmaker,
he's done so many amazing movies
[3:29] over the last two decades that
he could pretty much show up and
[3:34] read the yellow pages, and
someone's going to pay a ticket
[3:36] to see it because it's Chris
Nolan. I mean, he did look what
[3:39] he did with Oppenheimer. I mean,
that's ridiculous. A you know a
[3:42] physicist, you know, and and it
turned into a billion. So what
[3:46] he did with the Odyssey is
amazing. So I think a return
[3:51] back to these older stories is
another reason. Is people were
[3:54] like, wow, there is so much. The
Odyssey for me was haunting, and
[3:59] it stuck with me. And movies
that stick with you after you
[4:02] watch it and doesn't let go,
that I pay attention to, and
[4:06] that's rare nowadays. You don't
see that as often. It used to
[4:09] happen a lot in the '90s,
especially in the '90s with like
[4:12] Fight Club and The Matrix and
and those even Pulp Fiction.
[4:15] Like those movies kind of just
stuck with you and just kept
[4:18] replaying in your head because
they had these stories were so
[4:21] deep, where now you don't get as
much of that from the studio
[4:24] system. So he's a rare, a rare
bird to be able to do what he's
[4:28] doing. There's a handful of
directors who could do that, but
[4:30] he's arguably the the only one.
If Spielberg would have made or
[4:34] Scorsese would have made the
Odyssey, it would have done
[4:37] okay, but it wouldn't have
become a phenomenon. It just
[4:39] wouldn't have, in my opinion.
[4:40] I have another question for you.
Then there's a big movie coming
[4:44] out this fall, next month.
Actually, yeah, next month. That
[4:48] is coming out of Bollywood. That
is related to the Odyssey. Do
[4:53] you know what it is?
[4:54] I don't. I don't. What's the
name?
[4:56] The Ramayana.
[4:58] Oh, I heard. Yeah, I have heard
of the Ramayana. Yeah, is that?
[5:00] Coming out here?
[5:01] That's coming out worldwide.
Yeah. Oh it's coming out
[5:04] worldwide now. How are these two
stories connected? And I want to
[5:08] get something if I can. So hold
on one second. Yeah.
[5:14] Oh, of course, of course, the
bow. Yes, the bow. Yes.
[5:20] So now, this is a real old. It's
a it's a it's a newly made, but
[5:20] Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[5:21] I got this as a gift. Had the
came whole thing. It was like
[5:27] it's a longbow made in the
ancient style. It's a legit one,
[5:32] right? Yeah, legit.
[5:36] someone sent it to me. It was
amazing. I was like, whoa, this
[5:39] is epic. And I actually shoot it
and everything. And these are
[5:41] real, like wooden arrows with
the the real
[5:44] Feathers and yeah yeah yeah
[5:45] Old school everything. So you
remember in the movie The
[5:50] Odyssey, in the beginning it
shows him and he's like making
[5:55] this bow, and then he does this
thing. Of course, it has a more
[6:00] cinematic sound to it.
[6:03] Yeah, yeah,
[6:05] Right. So good, and and then of
course at the end when he
[6:09] returns as a beggar, cloaked, he
he has to he's given the
[6:16] challenge by his wife Penelope,
who doesn't know that he is
[6:20] Odysseus, and the challenge is
to all the suitors that were
[6:24] basically overrunning his
kingdom. Someone has to be
[6:28] strong enough to string his bow
and shoot the arrow through the
[6:33] 12 axes and hit the target.
Right now, that is actually
[6:40] smacking of an ancient story,
also, but it's slightly
[6:44] different, and both are related
to gaining kingship. In the
[6:49] Ramayana, Rama basically has to
prove that he's worthy of being
[6:54] king, and the way he has to
prove that he's worthy of being
[6:56] king is he has to string the bow
of Shiva.
[7:02] Okay.
[7:02] Now this is all related to
Enoch. You just didn't know it.
[7:06] Okay.
[7:06] And stringing the bow of Shiva,
and what happens in the
[7:09] Ramayana? Rama is so strong he
breaks the bow of Shiva. Right,
[7:14] and so that begins the process
where he becomes the king. So
[7:18] it's like the beginning of a
cycle, and then he has to go
[7:22] through this whole cycle of
being lost, and then come back
[7:25] and reclaim his kingship. And
the reclaiming of kingship is
[7:28] what we see in the story of the
Odyssey, and the Roman version
[7:32] of this, right? The Latin
version would be Ulysses, which
[7:35] is kind of interesting because
that relates to me. There's a
[7:37] very famous Grant in history, my
namesake, and his name is
[7:41] Ulysses or U.S. Grant. He won
the war, the Civil War, versus
[7:46] Robert Edward Lee, and I was
named after both of these Civil
[7:49] War generals.
[7:50] Wow. Okay. Right. Wow.
[7:53] So there's a great Netflix
documentary on Grant. Really
[7:56] worth watching.
[7:58] All right.
[7:58] It shows how he wins this war.
So this is somehow related to
[8:06] Enoch, and I can tell you the
way it's connected. There is one
[8:09] very, very large constellation
that we have in the sky that
[8:12] shows up in virtually almost
every sacred site around the
[8:16] world, and it is Orion. Now,
certain depictions of Orion have
[8:22] Orion with a club, and other
depictions, and he's holding a
[8:26] fleece, and other depictions
have Orion holding a bow and
[8:29] arrow, right? So this is the
same, you know, hero throughout
[8:34] time. In Hungary, it was
referred to as Nimrod. Nimrod's
[8:40] also referenced in the Bible, in
in Mesopotamia, it's more
[8:46] related to Hike. Haik is also
the same kind of a great hunter.
[8:52] Then we also have the story of
Orion and Artemis, and Artemis
[8:55] kills Orion inadvertently or
accidentally because of her
[8:59] brother Apollo. Then we also
have Osiris is the same
[9:02] constellation. Osiris and Isis
are the two constellations, and
[9:07] by the way, Shiva and Shakti are
the exact same constellations.
[9:13] In the story of Ramayana, it
starts off he's with Sita.
[9:17] They're in a forest, and they
see this golden deer, and next
[9:21] thing you know, he's off chasing
the golden deer with a bow and
[9:23] arrow. So this is a symbology of
something related to this
[9:30] evolution of mankind, going from
holding a club, which is a very
[9:34] imprecise, blunt instrument, to
the precision of a bow and
[9:39] arrow. Now this is interesting
because the story of Enoch is
[9:45] also related to Orion, and Enoch
is a man who becomes angelic.
[9:52] And we've talked about this
before, right? We've had a
[9:54] podcast before. We talk about
Enoch, and we talk about because
[9:57] you asked me about who is Thoth,
who is. Yeah, Metatron. Who is
[10:02] you know? What is all the Saint
Germain? All this stuff. What if
[10:05] I told you they're the all the
same archetype?
[10:11] Okay,
[10:12] They're all the same archetype,
and we see this in the hero's
[10:16] journey, the story of Orion, who
even though the Vitruvian men,
[10:20] it's Orion. You've got Orion
standing the Vitruvian Man by
[10:24] Leonardo da Vinci. If you look
at his stomach, his abs are not
[10:27] just ripped. His abs have three
diamonds on them. Why do they
[10:31] have three diamonds? Because
those three diamonds represent
[10:33] the three belt stars of Orion.
And if I showed it to you right
[10:37] now, you'd be like, "Whoa, what
the heck? And if you look at his
[10:40] throat, Da Vinci drew his throat
in the shape of a bull's head.
[10:45] Literally, has the shape of a
bull's head because that's the
[10:47] Apis bull. Nandi represents
Shiva. It's the Apis bull. The
[10:54] Shiva constellation, Orion
constellation are all the same.
[10:57] Mount Meru, which I know you've
probably heard of and studied,
[11:01] supposed to be the home of
Shiva. Well, the original name
[11:03] of the Great Pyramid is Mer. If
I spoke it in Japanese, it'd be
[11:07] pronounced Meru because it's a
congluniative language that has
[11:12] to end in a vowel. So this story
of Enoch is actually the story
[11:16] of man going through the hero's
journey and forgetting that he's
[11:20] an angel and then remembering
that he's an angel. This is why
[11:24] the book of Enoch is now showing
up in all of our consciousness.
[11:28] Why did I all of a sudden start
listening to the book of Enoch?
[11:30] I've read it before, but
something told me to go back and
[11:33] study it in depth because this
is the story of mankind's
[11:38] ascension. It's the story of us
remembering who we are,
[11:42] And that's why the Odyssey is
something.
[11:45] That's why the Odyssey is in the
consciousness. That's why
[11:47] Ramayana is in the
consciousness. That's why you
[11:50] asked me about the Book of
Enoch, because it's all the same
[11:53] story.
[11:54] Interesting. So in the Book of
Enoch, and and and tell
[11:58] everybody a little bit about the
Book of Enoch. It's about an
[12:00] angel who forgets who he is and
then is brought back.
[12:05] Well, in the story, basically,
what it does, it's it's not
[12:08] telling it from the story or the
context that he's an angel
[12:11] forgets who he is, but it does
tell the story of how the
[12:15] beginning of the world began and
how there were these fallen
[12:18] angels that came as well. They
were teaching esoteric
[12:21] knowledge, and then, and and you
have to basically parse out.
[12:24] Remember, this shows up in the
Nakamadi text. This shows up,
[12:28] you know, in what we found in
Qumran, right? But also, it was
[12:32] also in the Ethiopian Bible, and
probably the the cleanest
[12:36] version of this. And none of
this was canonized in the
[12:40] Council of Nicaea that happened,
you know, around the third
[12:44] century A.D. when King, when
when Emperor Constantine decided
[12:48] to convert to what they refer to
as Catholicism, and then they
[12:51] said, "Oh, well, even though we
we crucified Peter upside down
[12:56] in in the Vatican, we'll
basically just say Peter was the
[12:59] first pope, and I'm just one of
the lineage of that popehood,
[13:01] right? Of that's that's
basically,
[13:04] Yeah, yeah.
[13:05] How it went down. So
[13:06] The politician would.
[13:08] That's right. They decided,
yeah. If I can't beat them, I'll
[13:10] join them. Right. So they
decided what books would end up
[13:13] in the Bible, what books would
be excluded from the Bible. Not
[13:16] that they were saying that the
the Book of Enoch was necessary
[13:20] heretical. Not that they were
saying there was a radical text,
[13:23] but what they're saying is this
is really not for virgin eyes.
[13:28] So someone who doesn't really
understand spirituality, this is
[13:31] too much for them. You know,
there's like talk of giants and
[13:35] floods, and you know, like
having sex between like angels
[13:39] and men, and and what's going on
here? And then they're teaching
[13:42] all kinds of strange stuff. And
there's a whole giant section in
[13:44] there about a calendar. Why is
all this stuff in here? Why also
[13:50] now, all of a sudden, in the
last 24 hours, they've now
[13:53] declared in many media outlets
that we found Noah's Ark.
[13:58] Yeah, I've heard about that. Is
that we? Yeah, heard something
[14:02] about that that they they were
drilling down. I saw some videos
[14:04] of it, and they're like, "This
is it. And they look.
[14:08] So fora long time, people are
like, "Wait a minute. The the
[14:11] biblical measurements, and
remember, Enoch was was the
[14:14] grandfather of Noah. Right, he
was the father of Methuselah. If
[14:20] we go back to the the Genesis
account, so of course the flood
[14:25] plays a role in this. Enoch was
alive at the time of the flood,
[14:29] supposed supposedly in the book
of Genesis. So when we look at
[14:32] this, and you look at the story
of Noah's Ark, Noah's Ark is
[14:34] supposed to be 300 cubits long,
right? And it's supposed to be,
[14:42] which would be, you know, if we
use the biblical cubit, which is
[14:46] one and a half feet, right? Then
that's not matching the exact
[14:51] length of what the measured, you
know, purported arc is on top of
[14:56] one of the mountains not far
from Ararat. I think it's like
[14:59] 18 kilometers away. Or something
like that, and it never said in
[15:03] the Bible that it landed on
Mount Ararat. It said it landed
[15:06] on the Ararat Mountains. So, so
they measured it. They're like,
[15:10] it doesn't really fit the
measurement, but it does look
[15:12] like a boat. If you haven't seen
it, it definitely looks kind of
[15:14] like a boat. It fits the
description in many ways, and
[15:19] and then they realize, wait a
minute, maybe we're using the
[15:21] wrong cubit measurement. They
assumed it was one and a half
[15:24] feet. Maybe the cubit
measurement is actually the
[15:26] Royal Egyptian cubit, the one
that the pyramid was built on.
[15:30] And if you use that measurement,
the measurements match
[15:32] perfectly. Turns out to be 157
meters exactly, which is half of
[15:37] pi. 1.5707 is is half of pi.
[15:42] So, do you believe what what
they found is Noah's Ark?
[15:44] I do.
[15:46] Really,
[15:47] And it matches the height. So,
you should get someone on your
[15:49] podcast to talk about this. But
it matches the height, the 30
[15:52] cubits high, right? And the
width is also matching. Now,
[15:55] what they just did is they did
some core samples where they
[15:59] drilled in and they found the
same structures as described,
[16:04] partitions, right, as described
in the Bible of exactly the
[16:08] three stories of the Ark. So
now, wait a minute. Why all of a
[16:14] sudden are we all coming back to
these ancient stories of the
[16:18] flood, Enoch, you know the
Ramayana, the story of Ulysses
[16:26] and Odyssey. The Odyssey. What's
going on? It's the hero's
[16:30] journey. We're on the hero's
journey, and we're going through
[16:34] the cycle of time.
[16:35] So right now, and for people who
don't understand the hero's
[16:38] journey, I've studied that ad
nauseum. Joseph Campbell came up
[16:43] with the hero's journey many
many years ago, and is the basis
[16:46] of the most perfect execution of
the hero's journey is probably
[16:49] Star Wars. It's it's pretty much
just beat by beat perfect.
[16:55] By the way, I watched every Star
Wars movie right before Burning
[16:58] Man,
[17:00] As you should.
[17:01] Yeah, exactly. But I, it's
again, that's also in the
[17:05] consciousness. It's the concept
of the warrior monk. It's the
[17:09] concept of the Jedi, right? And
the return and the
[17:13] reconciliation. And now we're in
the stage of mastery of the two
[17:16] worlds. The split that Dolores
Cannon was referring to that was
[17:22] coming the split in the earth
the two earths. It's a
[17:25] relational also to the concept
of the two worlds mastery of the
[17:29] two worlds. It's being able to
unite heaven and spirituality,
[17:34] or heaven spirituality and the
earth plane in manifestation.
[17:38] It's the return.
[17:39] So that is, but that is what
I've heard from many people I've
[17:43] spoken to. Is that other other
civilizations, maybe around the
[17:49] universe, through channelings
and through even esoteric
[17:54] writings, are they are able to
do exactly that. They it's like
[17:58] a like hybrid between they're
not fully in spirit, but they're
[18:01] not fully here. This is a very
dense reality where a more
[18:04] evolved civilization, they have
to have the telekinesis, being
[18:09] able to talk telepathically,
these kind of things. These are
[18:12] ideas that've been around for
centuries, and that is kind of
[18:16] where we're supposed to
supposedly going in this cycle.
[18:20] In the yugas right now we're on
our upward swing right now past
[18:23] the dark ages and now we're
going towards the age of
[18:26] enlightenment which is going to
take a minute but this is a very
[18:30] pivotal these next 50 years it's
very pivotal for humanity
[18:34] Oh without a doubt so but you
asked the question you know why
[18:37] is this coming up now I believe
it's the exact same reason that
[18:41] I've just said. Why Enoch? Enoch
is just this archetypal story of
[18:47] the city that he basically was
responsible for. Translated, it
[18:52] went up into heaven. He walked
with God, and in the you know
[18:57] Kabbalistic tradition, they have
this concept of Metatron. The
[19:03] Greek pronunciation of it is
Metron, and is supposed to be
[19:07] this like angel who's into
sacred geometry, and that's what
[19:14] Enoch was. Enoch was very much
into the geometry. He's
[19:17] explaining the geometry of the
calendar and the precision of
[19:22] it.
[19:22] So the Book of Enoch is not does
not come from Judaism. It does
[19:26] not come from the Torah, or does
it?
[19:28] It would be. It would also be
kind of considered the
[19:31] non-canonical. It's it's books
that are recognized as being
[19:35] sacred scripture, but they're
not part
[19:37] Of the canon.
[19:38] They're not part of the five
books of the Torah. The five
[19:41] books of the Torah, right, are
you know Genesis, Numbers,
[19:45] Deuteronomy, Leviticus, Exodus,
right. Those are the books of
[19:50] the of that we know of as the
five books that were written by
[19:52] Moses. So what we think of as
the Torah is all predominantly
[19:56] the books of Moses. These are
all the books of Moses. These
[19:59] are non canonical. Books that
are studied, and rabbis study
[20:03] them, and they they definitely
know about this concept of
[20:06] Metatron for sure, and they
believe that it's directly
[20:10] associated with Enoch,
[20:11] And that and the
[20:12] Enoch becomes an angel, and it's
all matching exactly my work too
[20:16] on the Giza plateau. So you know
that the the Giza pyramids are
[20:21] all the three belt stars, the
three belt stars, and we see
[20:24] this everywhere. I'm going to
Tevativakan in a few weeks, and
[20:28] there's three belt star
formation there as well. And and
[20:31] you can't say that they're
totally separate because the
[20:34] height of the pyramid called
Katmankari, which is the third
[20:38] pyramid on on Giza Plateau, is
216 feet. The height of the
[20:42] Pyramid of the Sun in Tewa
Tibakan 216 feet. The base is
[20:46] 756 feet for both the Pyramid of
the Sun and the Great Pyramid of
[20:51] Giza. Pyramid of the Sun in
Teotihuacan, totally separated
[20:55] places. And then the base width
of the Pyramid of the Moon in
[21:00] Teotihuacan is the exact same
height as the Great Pyramid, so
[21:03] you could say that they split up
Minkari Pyramid and the Great
[21:07] Pyramid, and they spread it
across these three pyramids and
[21:12] their portions. How did that
happen?
[21:15] It's it's it's obviously a
coincidence.
[21:17] Yeah, it's a pretty incredible
coincidence, right? So so
[21:21] So there are other so, so there
are other books though, Robert,
[21:25] like the Gospel of Mary
Magdalene, and there are other
[21:30] Gospel of Thomas,
[21:31] Gospel, yeah, Gospel of Thomas.
So there are other books that
[21:35] just were just taken out, but
still survived somehow.
[21:38] Yes, they're they're referred to
as the apocryphal, as the
[21:41] apocryphal texts by some, or
also referred to as the
[21:45] apocrypha.
[21:46] All right. So then,
[21:47] So so why I mention this though
is is we think of the Giza
[21:52] Plateau as related to these
three belt stars of Orion. But
[21:56] what if I told you there's
another constellation that
[21:59] actually matches potentially
even better at the association
[22:03] of those three stars and the way
the pyramids align, and that
[22:08] other constellation is called
the Swan. It's Cygnus. Now
[22:13] Cygnus is across the sky, and
the Swan has white wings that
[22:17] look like angelic wings. What I
found is that I found two new
[22:20] pyramids on the Giza Plateau
that are southwest of Minkari
[22:23] Pyramid, and those two new
pyramids are matching exactly
[22:27] the maps from four different
cartographers from the 15th,
[22:32] 16th, and 18th centuries. They
never talk to each other. Those
[22:37] pyramid placements are matching
the star locations when you put
[22:41] and overlay the Cygnus
constellation on top of the
[22:44] three pyramids, they match
perfectly. And then there's two
[22:47] other locations of stars called
Omicron Cygni and and Zeta
[22:53] Cygni. Those two star locations
are matched exactly where the
[22:57] two other pyramids are. So it
means those have now become the
[23:01] wings because it's on the swan.
These are the wings. The three
[23:05] stars are right. The body, but
then it starts to go out to the
[23:07] wings of the swan. What it's
basically telling us is that in
[23:12] the story of Osiris, Osiris
loses his his his ability
[23:17] because he gets killed. Right,
he dies and he ends up getting
[23:20] reincarnated as Horus. Horus
takes on the battle with Set,
[23:23] and Set plucks out his left
eye-the left eye of intuition,
[23:26] the feminine. Okay, our calendar
system: we have a 365.24 day
[23:33] calendar for the solar cycle. We
have a 354.6 day lunar cycle.
[23:41] Now, if you average those two
together, they're exactly 360
[23:44] days. Now, how did that happen?
The reason that happened is that
[23:49] we forgot to include the
feminine aspect in our calendar
[23:53] system. That's really what's
happened, right? And the
[23:57] Egyptians and the
Mesopotamians-they all use
[24:00] 360-day calendars. So this was
kind of known, but we somehow
[24:04] lost it. We lost it. So what
happens is that the story of the
[24:09] hero's journey is that Horus,
which is really Enoch, Osiris,
[24:14] right? It's really the same
folks over and over and over
[24:17] again. Has to get back the eye
of Horus, the left eye of Horus,
[24:22] to awaken the third eye of
Thoth, the third eye in the
[24:26] center of the forehead, the
third eye of Thoth is this
[24:31] combination of warrior and monk.
It's the ability to hold
[24:36] multivariate opposing viewpoints
and be able to do so in
[24:41] equanimity and without judgment,
and it's the ability to have
[24:44] pure intuition that's next level
beyond. The other name for this
[24:49] is called the Eye of Shiva.
Shiva constellation is also
[24:53] Orion. So what has to happen?
The story is is that Orion has
[24:57] to ascend, and as Orion ascends,
he. Gets back the eye of Horus.
[25:02] He gets back the eye of the
feminine. He awakens the third
[25:05] eye of Shiva, and as the third
eye of Shiva is awakened, the
[25:09] swan descends upon him. So Orion
has to make the traversal across
[25:14] the entire northern sky to get
the descension of the swan
[25:19] that's flying down upon him, and
it gives him his wings. So when
[25:23] you place the wings on top of
those three pyramids, all of a
[25:28] sudden now you've got Orion and
Osiris and the Vitruvian Man
[25:33] getting his wings. It's
literally getting the angelic
[25:37] wings back. It's about opening
the eye of Horus, that then
[25:41] leads to the opening of the Eye
of Shiva, the Eye of Thoth, as
[25:44] it's also called. And Shiva is
not only a name that showed up
[25:48] in you know the the eastern
region of the world in India and
[25:52] in China, et cetera. It shows up
as Siwa in Egypt. Siwa is a
[25:58] place of induction. It's a place
of initiation. I'm going to go
[26:01] there on a trip next year. So
the the point is that this is
[26:05] the story, and it's the story of
Enoch transcending. And is there
[26:10] some sort of big cataclysm
coming? Maybe in one of the
[26:13] versions of Earth. I think
that's why the Noah's Ark thing
[26:16] is coming up.
[26:17] Yeah, because I think also, but
could it be a if there is a
[26:22] cataclysm, it might not be a
physical one, though it might be
[26:27] more of a spiritual one. Does
that make any sense? Something
[26:31] happened that could just set
everything off in a way that
[26:34] awakens mass. I say mass
awakening, and I'm saying the
[26:38] entire planet will waken up at
the same time. It'll go in
[26:40] stages, but something happens.
You know, is it disclosure, like
[26:44] actual, you know, contact? Is
it, you know, a great discovery
[26:49] like Noah, and everyone just
starts saying, or something else
[26:52] that they discover, like, hey,
here's Jesus wrote this book. We
[26:56] just found it. He actually wrote
something down. Look, and we
[27:00] could believe it in the yeah
totally right. He he wrote some
[27:03] stuff down so on some post its,
you know, kind of thing. It
[27:08] could be something like that
because I I'm hoping, but I this
[27:12] is I'm I'm on the fence really
on this Robert because I don't
[27:15] think there's going to be a
giant cataclysm that will wipe
[27:18] out the planet or anything like
that. But I do think that
[27:20] there's going to be stages of
things that there'll be
[27:22] collapses, and we're seeing it
already collapses in.
[27:25] Oh, I mean that is for sure. I
mean we're already seeing the
[27:28] collapse of what we know of as
civilization right now.
[27:31] It start. It's slow. It's slow.
Well, just like in Rome, Rome
[27:35] didn't fall in a day. It took a
while.
[27:37] No, that's right. It takes takes
a while. It definitely takes a
[27:40] while for it to fall apart, but
it's, it's. I would say it's
[27:44] it's moving pretty fast right
now.
[27:46] God, it it is, isn't it?
[27:48] It's super fast. I mean, it's
like a breakneck pace. Even for
[27:51] me, I have a hard time because,
like you, I grew up in the same
[27:53] time frame. I liked the same
movies. I had kind of an idyllic
[27:56] childhood, and the world was
good to me. I. It's not like I
[28:00] had a bad life in the old world.
I didn't have a bad life. I had
[28:03] a good life. I was successful.
You know, it worked for me. I'm
[28:07] one of the people that maybe the
old world worked for. But yeah,
[28:11] I think what's happening now is
the realization that what we
[28:17] thought was the objective truth
was never truly an objective
[28:23] fact or truth. It was merely a
facet. It's not a fact. It's a
[28:28] facet of a larger prism of
truth. And now we have to
[28:32] realize that the way that we had
been seeing the world in this
[28:37] unipolar viewpoint was really
just the way that we believed we
[28:41] thought would benefit us the
most, because we're unwilling to
[28:47] see anything else. Now, I've
never had. Have you ever had an
[28:50] objective experience?
[28:52] What do you mean by an objective
experience? Can you define that?
[28:55] Where it's undeniable that your
experience was be identical to
[28:59] anyone else having the exact
same experience, and how you
[29:01] would describe it after the
fact.
[29:03] Sure,
[29:04] Give me an example of what
[29:05] An objective experience. I mean,
well, it's it's everyone is it's
[29:10] going to have a different
perspective because everyone's
[29:11] filter is different and
everyone's life experience is
[29:13] different. So I could eat a
burger and go, "That's the best
[29:16] burger I ever had, and somebody
else could eat the burger and
[29:17] go, "That is dog crap. So it's
so you're right. No, I have not
[29:21] had that. I've had something
that I've eaten similar things,
[29:24] or I've seen similar things, or
I've been in similar things, and
[29:26] experienced similar things. But
everyone's filter and baggage
[29:30] that they bring along in their
soul's journey is going to, you
[29:34] know, taint it. So no, it's
impossible. Exactly.
[29:37] Okay. So then, how do we have
science?
[29:39] Science is something that you
can prove and quote unquote
[29:45] prove, recreate, test,
experiment, and then the same
[29:50] thing happens again and again
and again. No matter how many
[29:53] times you try it, and it's just
proof. Like, well, that's
[29:56] actually just the way that works
because I can prove it again and
[29:59] again and again and again. So
one plus one is two. One plus
[30:02] one is two. No matter what you
do, one plus one is two.
[30:04] Generally speaking, there there
is some one plus one equals a,
[30:08] but that's a whole other
conversation.
[30:10] So generally saying then, so I
think what you're actually
[30:12] saying is that the experience
might actually be the same. Like
[30:17] you and I could eat the burger,
sure. But the meaning that we
[30:20] ascribe to that experience is
entirely subjective,
[30:24] Completely.
[30:26] Right, and so that's the
ontology that we're basically
[30:29] attaching to it. Ontology is a
study of meaning, right? It's
[30:33] the meaning. So you could say
one plus one is two, but what
[30:36] does that actually mean? A math
with no meaning is just
[30:38] information, but math with
meaning can become divine
[30:41] communication.
[30:42] Correct.
[30:42] How you attach meaning to your
experience is what we're all
[30:45] actually doing. Maybe that's
what we actually call space
[30:48] time. So the point is that these
stories that we have, from the
[30:52] Ramayana to Odyssey to the
hero's journey, and it wasn't
[30:57] created by by Joseph Campbell.
It was found by Joseph Campbell,
[31:02] Synthesized or
[31:04] It was synthesized. He took
1000s and 1000s of stories
[31:08] throughout human history and
looked at the common
[31:11] denominators, and they were all
the same storyline. And movie
[31:15] makers have learned to master
this because if you don't,
[31:18] you're not going to have a great
movie. You look at Lord of
[31:22] Rings. You look at you said the
the perfect example of it is
[31:24] Star Wars. Star Wars is a great
example of it. It's it's
[31:28] literally the battle, right? And
and every detail in between. So
[31:33] this this whole concept is, I
think, what's coming into the
[31:36] consciousness right now that
your experience, whether you
[31:40] like it or not, has entirely
been for your entire life
[31:44] subjective. It's not objective
because any meaning you ascribe
[31:49] to that experience has been
entirely painted by your own
[31:52] subjectivity,
[31:53] Your own life and life
experience. Of course.
[31:56] So that's why this is coming up.
Now, do I think there's going to
[31:59] be a cataclysm? I don't know. I
can't tell you that. I can't say
[32:03] one way or another. I believe
that I believe that what Dolores
[32:07] Cannon says is right. I believe
there's going to be two
[32:09] existences: people that go more
into judgment and people that go
[32:13] more into non-judgment. And this
realization that there are
[32:18] multiple ways of seeing the
world and ascribing meaning to
[32:21] it, and that each of those is
entirely subjective. That's what
[32:27] I believe.
[32:27] That's where we're going,
[32:30] And I believe that's where we're
going.
[32:32] Yeah, I don't disagree with you.
I think that I think there is.
[32:35] I've been hearing that from many
people I've spoken to, and my
[32:39] own research is that these that
the the two Earths that the the
[32:42] two existence that there's going
to be a group of us that will
[32:46] decide to live in another
timeline quote unquote another
[32:50] timeline and another group can
live elsewhere and that happens
[32:53] right now you and I are having a
very you know beautiful
[32:57] conversation peaceful
conversation about this now
[33:00] other people it's fast all you
gotta do is look at the comments
[33:03] of this conversation. When this
comes out, just look at the
[33:05] comments, and some people will
say this is the greatest thing
[33:08] I've ever seen in my life.
[33:10] Yes, and some people are gonna
be like, "This is total.
[33:12] This is all BS. This is this is
absolute heresy. I can't believe
[33:16] you're talking about this. This
is the only way. So you just,
[33:20] I've kind of like look when I
look at comments now. I'm like,
[33:22] oh, this is this is their
filter. This is their story that
[33:26] they're holding on to,
regardless of it. Because we
[33:28] could look at the exact same
conversation. It's fascinating
[33:31] to see that some people are
like, I don't like Robert's
[33:33] shirt. I don't like the way he's
sitting right now. Why did he
[33:36] bring that bow out? That's
violent. Like, there's 1000
[33:39] stupid things that people can
say. You know what I mean, and
[33:43] other people were like, "Oh my
God, how cool is that? He was
[33:45] talking about the so it's all
it's absolutely subjective,
[33:49] completely, and has little to do
with you and me. That I realize
[33:52] it has really little to do with
you and me because they don't
[33:54] know us personally. So that's an
example of the subjective aspect
[34:00] of the work that we're doing,
but also the subjective factor
[34:03] of everything that we interact
with as humanity. I can look at
[34:08] the Book of Enoch. You can look
at the Book of Enoch and
[34:10] interpret it two different ways.
I'd argue that both you and I
[34:13] will probably be similar camps
in the way that we look at it.
[34:16] Other people will look. This is
heresy. This is not part of the
[34:19] original canon, and the original
canon is like the word of God,
[34:22] you know what I mean, and they
get caught up in all this kind
[34:24] of stuff. So it's fascinating to
me.
[34:26] To me, I do find that the timing
of all this is very interesting,
[34:29] though, because I look at the
world. I'm a student of
[34:32] observation. I look at around
me, yeah, see what things are in
[34:36] the awareness, because it's not
a universe to me; it's a
[34:39] universe. So the story of Enoch
is that is a man who walks with
[34:44] God who becomes you know he's
also referred to as the only you
[34:47] know he's he's he's like
literally like a perfect man,
[34:52] and he ends up ascending and
bringing his whole city with
[34:55] him, the city of Enoch. And is
it coincidence that Enoch Eno?
[35:02] Is you know like in in Hebrew
everything has to end with like
[35:08] it's kind of like got it's all
only consonants. There's no
[35:11] vowels in the language. There's
no vowels written in the
[35:14] language, right? So you've got
yod hey vav hey that that's
[35:19] that's way. It's like a breath.
Well, when you think about this
[35:26] as well, it's like okay, we had
to put into the words the
[35:30] vowels, so it's only consonants
we put in the words. So if you
[35:34] have a word like Eno, how would
it end? Eno, I laugh because I'm
[35:38] like, wait, that's like the one
backwards, eno backwards. the
[35:43] one backwards. It's like an
anagram,
[35:46] Or or like Neo,
[35:47] Like Neo exactly.
[35:51] One Trinity Morpheus. I mean,
let's not get into it. We should
[35:55] do a whole episode just
[35:58] Rabbit hole right there.
[35:59] We should we should absolutely
do an episode just on the
[36:01] Matrix.
[36:02] So here's the backdrop, right?
We've got we've got Enoch, who's
[36:06] supposed to be this grandfather
of Noah. It's the time of the
[36:08] flood. His city somehow
translates, goes to a different
[36:14] existence. Maybe they choose a
different timeline to
[36:19] experience. They get called up
into heaven, into this
[36:22] ascension. It seems kind of like
an interesting parallel of what
[36:26] we're talking about now.
[36:27] Let's dive into the Book of
Enoch for a second, even deeper.
[36:30] There's these this concept of
the Watchers. Can you explain to
[36:33] people what the Watchers are?
Because, you know, I think Stan
[36:38] Lee took it took it straight
from the Book of Enoch for
[36:41] Marvel, because in Marvel there
are the Watchers, and there is
[36:45] one called the Watcher who
watches over our reality, and
[36:49] it's like this being that just
watches everything and doesn't
[36:53] interfere, but can kind of like
whisper and guide people, but
[36:57] generally just observe unless.
And if things get out of hand,
[37:00] they step in.
[37:01] They have a prime directive like
Star Trek.
[37:03] It's a prime directive exactly.
It's a prime directive. So who
[37:07] are the Watchers in the Book of
Enoch?
[37:09] So it's interesting because,
gosh, there's so many
[37:12] interpretations of this, and I'm
only going to give you what I
[37:15] believe they are. Okay, so I'm
not trying to make a claim. I'm
[37:18] not Wes Huff is going to
basically try to say whatever
[37:21] and just throw it out and see
what spaghetti sticks to the
[37:24] wall. No, I'm going to tell you,
I'm a student of this first and
[37:27] foremost. I want to understand
it better, but I also feel like
[37:31] the more I learn, the less I
know. So that's my caveat. That
[37:35] clear? Fair enough. So in the in
the story, you have angels that
[37:42] were supposed to come from
higher dimension that came down
[37:45] to earth, right? These angels
were listed and they're named in
[37:49] the Book of Enoch as well. So
you can see the names of them,
[37:52] and some of them sound like
really almost like evil-sounding
[37:55] names, like Azazel, right?
They've got all kinds of bizarre
[37:58] names. Interestingly, the name
Metatron is not listed, and
[38:03] Metatron is supposed to be an
archangel that's supposed to be
[38:06] at the level of, if not higher
than even, is also referred to
[38:09] by Kabbalistic rabbis as the as
the little Yahweh, the little
[38:14] Yahweh, okay, or the lesser
Yahweh, is the correct way to
[38:18] say that. So it's notably
missing, and then you've got
[38:22] Mikhail, and you've got all of
the other Raphael and Gabriel.
[38:26] They're all basically listed on
this. The Watchers in this
[38:30] context; these these angels come
down to Earth. They're supposed
[38:34] to, I guess, just supposed to
watch over the place, right? And
[38:38] yet somehow they kind of come
into it. They're like, "Hey,
[38:42] let's look look at the comely
daughters of the of the children
[38:45] of men, and the comely daughters
of the children of men all of a
[38:49] sudden are these beautiful
women, and we saw that they are
[38:52] beautiful, and so one of them
decides one day, let's start
[38:55] mating with them as angels, and
that creates the giants,
[38:59] supposedly described as
red-haired, you know, giants
[39:02] that basically wreak havoc on
the land, multiple rows of teeth
[39:06] and all this stuff. So these
were sort of angels that were
[39:11] supposed to have been good, but
somehow come down into this
[39:14] dimension and get defiled,
[39:16] Corrupt. Yeah, corrupted.
[39:18] Corrupted, right? They get
corrupted. They teach the things
[39:22] that they're not supposed to
teach, is how it describes it as
[39:24] well. They do the stuff that
they're not supposed to do. They
[39:27] teach the stuff. They have sex
with the women. They're not
[39:29] supposed to do that, and this is
like evil and bad. This is part
[39:33] of the reason why the flood had
to come to wipe it all out to
[39:36] cleanse the whole thing. Yeah.
[39:39] So it wasn't. It wasn't. So the
flood didn't come to wipe away
[39:43] man's sins; it came to deal with
this issue.
[39:47] Also, this issue, yes, it
doesn't say it was only this
[39:51] issue, but this was one of the
things it lists that needed to
[39:54] be basically fixed. Okay, so
that's what I'm saying. It does.
[39:58] It does conspicuously tie. To
this Noah's Ark showing up right
[40:03] now. That's how I see this. And
so basically, these these
[40:07] watchers were entrusted with
this responsibility, and somehow
[40:12] they're teaching people
astrology. They're teaching
[40:14] people magic incantations,
right? They're teaching people
[40:19] science and the knowledge of
wisdom of God. Now, why would
[40:24] they do that? Why would they do
that?
[40:28] Bored? I mean, why?
[40:32] Maybe they're just. I mean,
there isn't. There's an argument
[40:35] that says maybe that's because
that's what they were supposed
[40:38] to do. Now, think about this for
a moment. I remember when I went
[40:46] to-I used to be Mormon. I'm not
Mormon anymore, but in the
[40:51] Mormon temple, they have
something that is taken from the
[40:56] Freemason rites, and it's the
temple ceremony. So I was lucky
[41:03] because I guess I got to learn
the temple ceremony of
[41:06] Freemasonry by virtue of the
fact that I was Mormon, even
[41:09] though I never learned, I never
was a Freemason, because it's a
[41:13] very similar system. Now some
say that part of the reason why
[41:17] the Freemasons got, you know,
why Joseph Smith got murdered in
[41:20] the end was because he defiled
and broke the covenant of not
[41:25] you know that's supposed to be
confidential. You're not
[41:27] supposed to share that
information with anyone, and yet
[41:30] and yet he did and made it put
it into the temple endowment. So
[41:34] in the in the temple endowment,
there's one philosophy, and it
[41:37] actually has this whole thing.
I'm not divulging anything
[41:41] really terribly confidential
here? But they reenact the whole
[41:45] beginning of the Garden of Eden
in the Mormon Temple rite. So in
[41:51] the Mormon temple rite, they
have a reenactment of the Garden
[41:53] of Eden, and there is Adam, and
there is Eve, and they have
[41:58] little fig leaves, and this is
why they have aprons also in
[42:00] Freemasonry, same thing. It's
kind of representing. Oh, why
[42:03] was God shows up and says, Adam,
what are you doing? Oh, where
[42:06] were you? I was I was hiding.
Why were you hiding? Because I
[42:09] was ashamed. Why were you
ashamed? Because I was naked.
[42:11] Who told you you're naked? Did
you eat of the fruit of the tree
[42:14] of knowledge of good and evil? I
told you not to. Yeah, and I
[42:17] told you the day you do it is
the day thou shalt surely die.
[42:20] Yeah, the woman that you gave
me-that he gave it me the fruit,
[42:26] and I ate it. Eve, what did you
do? The serpent beguiled me, and
[42:30] I did eat. Now there is a
philosophy that says even the
[42:34] act of Lucifer, basically
tempting Eve to give her the
[42:41] fruit of the tree of knowledge
of good and evil, and that's
[42:42] what the description is. Is that
Lucifer is then described as a
[42:45] snake that will have the power
to to to bruise your heel, but
[42:51] mankind will have the power to
crush your head. Is the
[42:53] description in the Bible?
[42:55] Hold on one second. I wanted to
I wanted to touch on something
[42:57] that that I haven't really dived
into before. The Old Testament
[43:01] of the Bible is essentially the
Torah, correct?
[43:05] Yeah, it's Genesis. That's the
what you're thinking of right
[43:07] now is Genesis,
[43:08] Correct! Yes, it's the Torah. So
it's it's yes comes from
[43:12] Judaism. Okay, to my
understanding, the concept of
[43:17] the devil and Lucifer wasn't
that a new? And please correct
[43:23] me. It wasn't that. It wasn't
New Testament. It was all Old
[43:26] Testament, because there's no
hell according to the Jewish
[43:30] tradition. There is no hell. It
just goes into something. So who
[43:33] is the snake? And is it if it is
the devil? Then where else is
[43:37] the devil as a character in the
first Old Testament, or was that
[43:40] just added in the Christian
Bible versus the Torah?
[43:44] No, I mean, look. Here is the
thing: is that how Judaism sees
[43:48] it is just based on their
ontology that they described
[43:52] related to it. So even though
the the events might be the
[43:55] same, and by the way, that's why
we have Islam. Islam also
[43:58] believes in the Book of Genesis,
right? They just have their own
[44:02] interpretation of it. It's like
Abraham screwed up, right? He
[44:07] had a bad estate plan. He had
one child. It was his first
[44:10] child was Ishmael to this, you
know, this housemaid that he had
[44:14] in the house, which was Hagar,
and then Sarah couldn't get
[44:18] pregnant until she's 90 years
old. Then she finally gets
[44:20] pregnant, and they're like,
okay, sorry, Ismael, you got to
[44:22] get out of here. So they go to
Mecca, and where does Abraham
[44:26] go? Abraham's in Haran, and then
he goes, you know, to the
[44:30] Promised Land. He goes towards
the Promised Land, land of
[44:32] Canaan. The point is that it's
just interpretation. Who was the
[44:38] first birthright holder? Ishmael
is the oldest son, but it's
[44:41] Isaac who gets the land in the
blessing of Abraham. So, and
[44:46] both sides have their own
version of this. So that's
[44:49] that's the point. Is yes, you
could say, well, wait. There's a
[44:51] devil. There's a Lucifer
described in the Old Testament.
[44:54] There is most definitely, and
the serpent beguiles. And who is
[44:58] a serpent? Well. That's Lucifer.
Who is Lucifer? Well, you have
[45:03] to go to Paradise Lost.
[45:06] Well, yeah. Now, but now we're
not in biblical times. Now we're
[45:08] in.
[45:09] Now that goes to the
interpretation of what's written
[45:12] about the story of the serpent.
So the story of the serpent
[45:14] becomes Lucifer is the light
bringer. In the pre-war of
[45:18] heaven, there were a third of
the host of heaven taken away,
[45:22] according to this, right? This
is the Milton story, and they
[45:26] get taken away and they follow
Lucifer.
[45:28] That's Milton, right? Yeah,
[45:29] And they come to Earth to
torment the children of men. And
[45:33] the reason why they broke off is
because Lucifer had his own plan
[45:37] about how mankind was going to
live its days, and instead of
[45:40] having to go through this
process and have a salvation,
[45:44] make mistakes and learn through
suffering and everything, he
[45:47] proposes a different plan, which
is, "I'll make sure everyone
[45:49] gets there to heaven in the end.
And this angers God the Father,
[45:53] and God the Father says, "No.
And Jesus steps forward and
[45:55] says, "I will sacrifice myself
so that there is a savior and
[45:59] there's a salvation. So this
whole separation of religion,
[46:03] and and the point is that the
question is: Is it part of the
[46:07] matrix of experience that
darkness must exist with light?
[46:12] So Dante and Milton were
basically the Stephen King and
[46:16] the J.K. Rowling of their day,
and then and the church grabbed
[46:21] onto these stories and used them
and started not putting them
[46:24] technically in the canon, but
preaching about them and talking
[46:27] about them. But the seven levels
of hell doesn't exist in the
[46:29] Bible. No, neither does neither
do the demons and the pitchforks
[46:33] and the lakes of fire and all
that. It's different, like the
[46:36] lake of fire with what Christ
talked about, was Hannah
[46:38] Gehenna, which is different and
all that, but that's all that
[46:41] imagery that they eventually
used for their, and I'm calling
[46:45] it what it is: propaganda and
the great paintings of Europe
[46:49] and all the art pieces. That's
all that stuff, and that's
[46:52] around the 1300s, around the
13th century. So they just took
[46:57] that and grabbed it. So that
doesn't exist in the original
[46:59] canon. No, I say I say all of
this because I want people
[47:03] listening who have a problem
maybe with what we're having a
[47:06] conversation about. It's like
the book is not like oh this is
[47:09] the book and nothing has
changed, no one has touched it,
[47:11] everything was perfect. I mean
Jesus spoke spoke Arabic. He did
[47:16] not speak Greek or Latin, which
is what the first Bibles were.
[47:20] The first, if I'm not mistaken,
right? The first Bible was
[47:23] written in Greek and then
translated into Latin. You know,
[47:27] eventually, correct.
[47:28] It was written in the original
Greek, but Aramaic was his
[47:30] language,
[47:32] Right! And he never wrote
anything down. So all of this is
[47:34] stories handed down from story
after story, and then switched
[47:38] around in the King James Bible,
and then Dante. Like it's just
[47:41] all this hodgepodge of stuff.
Before I let you go, because I
[47:46] know you're a very busy world
traveler, so you are easily the
[47:48] most interesting man in the
world. You mentioned something
[47:52] in regards to the flood, which I
wanted to touch upon. If they
[47:56] found Noah's Ark now, is that
because, from what I understand,
[48:03] and this is my interpretation of
of the information, a lot of the
[48:06] stuff we're talking about with
the the the Nelefim and the
[48:10] Watchers, Nephilimia and the
Watchers and all that stuff that
[48:15] happened more than 12,000 years
ago, more than 10,000 years ago,
[48:19] in my understanding. And please
correct me if I'm wrong, because
[48:22] if we look at the geological
evidence of there was a
[48:27] catastrophic event that was
around the time of Atlantis, and
[48:33] and then there was the the
melting of the ice caps and all
[48:36] of that stuff and the great
flood and every every culture on
[48:38] the planet has a great flood
story. How does Noah's Ark at
[48:45] this point match with that
timeline, or is this Noah's Ark
[48:49] been there, hidden, protected,
and sealed, just like Pompeii,
[48:55] for centuries upon centuries
upon centuries? I just wanted to
[48:58] see how that. What you think?
[48:59] We don't know, and and right now
the carbon dating is also, you
[49:04] know, there's a whole theory
that says that if you have any
[49:08] radioactivity at the surface,
that it can have a big impact on
[49:11] carbon dating timelines, and so
I just watched a whole episode
[49:16] related to that recently, and
basically they don't know how
[49:21] old these the Noah's Ark thing
is. Hopefully, they're going to
[49:24] be able to find out. There are
some that are saying they
[49:26] believe it's like 4000, maybe
5000 years old, but I think it's
[49:30] got to be far older than that.
It has to be far older than
[49:33] that. And how does a how does a
boat like that end up on a
[49:36] mountain top at 6500 feet?
That's pretty high, and preserve
[49:41] up here. Yeah, it's relatively
preserved, and yeah, it looks
[49:45] like it's somewhat you know kind
of almost petrified or
[49:48] something. But you can see it,
and you can see this is clearly
[49:51] it's a boat. It's definitely a
boat. Now that starts to raise
[49:55] all kinds of questions about
like what is the true history of
[49:58] the world, right? We. As we all
thought that these Bible stories
[50:02] are just sort of fairy tales.
Where did all the water come
[50:05] from for it to have gotten that
high up? How big of a flood was
[50:08] this? And where is the water? Is
the water from inside the earth,
[50:12] and then it subsides? It comes
out. You know, maybe there's a
[50:16] pole shift or something, and and
and you have a crustal
[50:19] displacement. We don't know. Is
this just part of the cycle of
[50:22] time? Our history. Here's the
problem. Our history has an
[50:27] abrupt beginning 6000 years ago.
We don't have anything beyond
[50:31] 6000 years.
[50:33] Well, I mean, isn't
[50:35] Besides Göbekli Tepe, Gebekli
Tepe, Carahantepi, the stuff in
[50:39] Turkey, which, by the way, this
is around the same area as where
[50:42] this Noah's Ark supposedly is
found, but in general, when you
[50:46] go back to mainstream science,
they'll tell you that we don't
[50:49] really have any mainstream
historical records of anything
[50:53] that goes beyond 6000 years. So,
what is this? It starts to
[50:59] really raise major questions
about what is the history of
[51:02] humanity, what is the true
story, and I think everybody
[51:06] knows that there's something
that doesn't quite fit. The
[51:09] story doesn't foot, and we all
feel this. Was there an
[51:13] Atlantis? We have only one
reference from you know the
[51:16] Critias and from Timaeus by
Plato, where he talks about
[51:18] Solon, who was you know
generations before him who
[51:22] basically says yeah this is what
Atlantis was but it was 9000
[51:25] years before the day of Plato
which was the fourth century BC
[51:30] So now you start to go what is
the story here and and that's my
[51:35] point is that I believe that all
of this is coming up for a
[51:40] reason it's going to make some
sort of big, almost cinematic
[51:45] debut for everyone. It's going
to be tied together with you
[51:50] know look at all the things
converging right now. Is it a
[51:52] coincidence that mankind is
making AI, which is essentially
[51:57] like a digital golem, right? A
clay man, just like the
[52:01] rabbinical, you know, priests
when they go through their
[52:04] process, they start to make a
clay man. So you make the clay
[52:10] man, and at the same time, it's
actually representation of you
[52:13] emulating the active creation of
man. That's what we're also kind
[52:17] of doing collectively, and is it
happening as a coincidence at
[52:20] the same time as our global
awakening, you have a wake on
[52:24] this picture right over your
shoulder. Is that just a
[52:28] coincidence? Is it a coincidence
that this is happening right now
[52:31] also, and we finally, after
1000s of years of not knowing if
[52:34] it's true or not, now finding
out that possibly the story of
[52:37] Noah's Ark might actually be
true? I don't think this is all
[52:42] coincidence. I used to believe
in coincidence. I don't believe
[52:45] in coincidence anymore.
[52:47] Well, look at what happened with
Troy. They thought that was a
[52:49] myth, and they actually found
the city of Troy.
[52:51] That's right. So I mean, I think
we're on the precipice again.
[52:56] I'm not claiming that I know
everything, and I can only give
[52:59] you my own interpretations of
what I believe I'm reading when
[53:04] I read these things. I listened
to the audio book of of this
[53:08] whole story of the Watchers and
of the Book of Enoch like six
[53:12] times last week. I never
listened to something six times
[53:15] in the same week. So the reason
I did is because there are so
[53:19] many aspects of it that I'm
trying to piece together was
[53:23] this literally at the same time
concomitant with Noah and the
[53:27] flood. Was there this group that
translated? What caused them to
[53:30] be translated? I want more
details about that.
[53:33] The logic behind Noah's Ark, I I
don't disbelieve that there is a
[53:37] boat that did something, but I
don't believe in the concept of
[53:42] like putting in every animal
from the planet, two of
[53:45] everything. That doesn't make
any logical sense. The lions
[53:49] would have had a field day, you
know. I'm sure it wasn't that
[53:52] organized where the predators
were away from the the food and
[53:56] so on and so forth. So that
doesn't make sense. But the idea
[53:59] of the concept of a Noah's Ark,
that there might have been
[54:01] something to save people, to
save things, absolutely. But I
[54:05] think the the typical.
[54:07] Here's the thing: if it's true
and the dimensions seem to
[54:11] match, right stories and the
three stories inside the boat
[54:15] were basically to house all
these animals. It wasn't to
[54:17] house other family members. They
know all the family members. I
[54:20] mean, you have basically the the
three sons. It was Ham, right?
[54:23] Hem, Japheth, right? And Seth.
Those are the three sons of
[54:28] Noah. That's it. There was
nobody else on the boat except
[54:31] their their wives. So it's like,
why did they need a boat that's
[54:35] like 500, you know, plus feet
long, 550 feet long? Why?
[54:40] So so then maybe to maybe once
they actually open it up, like
[54:45] get in there and actually see
what's happening, maybe you'll
[54:48] see rows and rows and rows that
people could sit in. Who knows?
[54:51] I don't know. I'm just saying
that for me, the logic of having
[54:55] so many animals.
[54:57] All I'm going to say to you, my
friend, is I am open to. Expect
[55:01] the unexpected.
[55:02] Well, that's that's
[55:03] We're in uncharted territory
right now. We're in uncharted
[55:06] territory, and and we're it's
like we're we're walking on to
[55:10] Jurassic Park Island for the
first time. We don't know the
[55:14] story.
[55:15] We don't.
[55:15] Right. It's like you just hear
those dinosaurs out of like,
[55:17] what the hell was that? I mean,
that's every day that goes by.
[55:21] I'm like, okay, what's going to
happen today? What's next? The
[55:24] world is getting stranger and
stranger and stranger. That's
[55:27] the only common denominator in
all of this,
[55:30] And it's gotten.
[55:31] And to be well adjusted, I just
said this on an interview I did
[55:34] with this UK newspaper. To be
well adjusted to an
[55:37] extraordinarily maladjusted
world is not a sign of sanity.
[55:41] It should put that on a T-shirt,
sir, and sell it. I mean, it is,
[55:45] it's, it's per, it's a really
powerful quote, a very honest
[55:49] quote and very true. Robert, it
is man. I could, I mean, days
[55:54] and days I can talk to you for.
So, I hope I can't wait for you
[55:57] to get back to Austin so you can
come back to the studio, sir.
[56:00] Where can people find out more
about you and the amazing work
[56:02] you're doing in the world?
[56:04] robertedwardgrant.com and on
Instagram, Robert Edward Grant
[56:08] on on all the the platforms. I'm
on I'm on all of those, and I do
[56:12] take trips. If you want to go on
adventure with me, I'm going to
[56:15] Antarctica in March of 2027. You
can find it on my. It's going to
[56:20] be an epic trip, and then I'm
going to be in Egypt in
[56:24] November. I'll be in Mexico next
week, and and then next year
[56:28] I've got a couple trips to
Egypt-one in April and one in
[56:30] August for the Great Eclipse.
So, and I'd love to come back at
[56:34] some point and talk to you about
the discovery that all of the
[56:37] pyramids around the world are
different musical notes, and
[56:40] that together they actually make
one song, and that song is the
[56:45] primordial Om chant.
[56:48] Well, that is a good cliffhanger
for the next conversation, my
[56:51] friend Robert. I appreciate you,
man, and everything you're doing
[56:54] to awaken this planet. And it's
always a joy talking to you, my
[56:57] friend. I can't wait to the next
time. So, thank you, my friend.
[58:13] Thank you, bro.