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Inspiration

Self-Empathy and Non-Violent Communication in Relationships

Elena Brower
Elena Brower
Oct 14, 2026
10 min read

From Elena Brower

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Three nights into a brief stretch at home, with one more night before she leaves again on a retreat with her son, Elena Brower sat down live with her partner James to talk about something most couples keep private: what is actually working between them. The video, titled "Room for Improvement," is a plain, warm conversation about why the two of them have been fighting very little lately, and the method they credit for it, non-violent communication. Their argument is less about tactics for hard talks than about where the work begins. Before you can offer another person a gentle request, Brower says, you have to offer yourself empathy, and the way to do that is a four-part sequence borrowed from the non-violent communication framework. The most useful thing in the video is a single, concrete story, an airport wallet that nearly derailed a flight, which shows what the practice looks like when it is not theory.

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Why would a couple publicly share what is working in their relationship?

The framing is deliberate. Brower and James say they are committed to serving couples and people who want to find a partner, and that their work with families has grown naturally. They decided it would be useful to create a space on purpose where they could share what they are learning as a couple, and to start a conversation about "what's working and what isn't." The name they chose carries the whole stance: "there's always room for improvement and there's always something to celebrate in your greatest efforts."

That pairing matters. A lot of relationship content is written from the standpoint of crisis, a list of what went wrong and how to fix it. Brower opens from the other direction, with a report of something that has gone well, and then uses it to explain how. She notes that they "haven't fought," and says quickly that it has been "very little" conflict, not none. The honesty of that qualifier is part of the lesson. This is not a couple claiming to be immune to friction. It is a couple who has changed how friction gets handled.

What is non-violent communication, and why does it feel awkward at first?

Brower is candid that the method is not graceful when you first try it. In her words, non-violent communication is "really clunky at first, really awkward, and seems really unnatural." Over time, with practice and commitment, it becomes easier, both in how you speak to yourself and in how you speak to the person in front of you. The step that she calls the most important place to start is self-empathy.

Her diagnosis of why self-empathy is needed is blunt. There is, she says, "a whole conversation that we have in ourselves. It's mostly trash talking sadly." When we do not offer ourselves empathy, that inner trash talk becomes the way we speak to everyone else in our lives, especially the people closest to us and the people who have frustrated us most. The point is not that the situation is unimportant. Brower says "whatever the situation, it matters not" for the first step. What matters is having tools to offer yourself acknowledgment and recognition, so you can move through the world feeling seen from within rather than constantly trying to get seen by other people.

That last idea is the spine of the whole talk. Much of what passes for conflict is an attempt to extract an acknowledgment from someone else. Self-empathy moves that search inward.

How do the four steps of self-empathy actually work?

Brower lays out the sequence as four steps, parallel to the structure of non-violent communication itself. She says she will include the feelings and needs list in the written post that accompanies the video, which is a useful companion if you want to practice.

Observation. The first step is a snapshot, not an opinion or an analysis. Brower's formulation is "when I saw that, when I did that, when you said those words." There is no plus or minus and no positive or negative. It is simply what happened. The discipline here is the hardest part for most people, because a snapshot has to leave out the story we layer on top of the event.

Feelings. The second step names the feelings that arise as a result of the observation. This is where Brower makes her most striking claim:

"nobody causes me to feel a certain way. Even if I love them, even if I'm so disappointed, even if I'm so sad, somebody's dying, nobody causes me to feel a certain way."
She says it is the lesson she wishes she had learned as a child. The situation is out there, she says, and she is observing it. The feelings are hers. Once you really see that, she argues, you begin to feel agency and to take ownership of your life, your behavior, and your own understanding.

Needs. The third step identifies the needs that are not being met, or the ones that are. Brower points out that this step also works for gratitude, and that it is worth reviewing the positive side of the practice as well. Feelings are the signal; needs are what the signal is pointing to.

Empathy. The fourth step is giving yourself empathy, and her phrasing is intentionally simple: "How human of me to feel this way right now." She repeats the sentiment as a kind of internal refrain. It is not a technique for suppressing a reaction. It is an acknowledgment that the reaction makes sense for a human being.

What does self-empathy look like in a real moment?

The clearest illustration in the video is a story about the couple's son, Jonah, and a lost wallet. Brower describes arriving at the airport with everything checked, the bags already dropped, and Jonah rolling up to the counter about to hand over his license when he realized the wallet was missing. They sprinted to the car. Brower says the wallet had an AirTag, but the tracker was not showing, and the phone it linked to was new. Eventually the tracker became available on the new phone, and it showed the wallet at the Airbnb they had just left, about half an hour away. They had an hour and twenty minutes to make the flight.

During the drive, Brower was not silent inside. She was practicing. Her internal naming goes like this: "When I realized that Jonah had left his wallet at the Airbnb, I felt frustrated, exasperated, scared, and annoyed. My needs for order and clarity were not being met. How human of me." She was driving a little fast, trying to stay safe, with her son beside her, and she was repeating the process to herself over and over. She says it was "slowly quieting me down."

The wallet had been tossed into a bag when they arrived, and it turned up at the house. They got it back, returned to the airport, and caught the flight. The detail that matters most to Brower is not the rescue. It is the fact that, for the whole drive, she was "in contact with myself" rather than "throwing tentacles, throwing out energy to try and get something back from somebody else."

"I'm giving it to myself. And I think this is the core of what is going right with you and me right now."

That line is worth reading slowly. The reason the moment did not become a fight was not that Brower had the right words for her son. It was that she had already done the internal work, which freed her to speak to him without an edge.

How do you hold someone accountable without blaming or shaming them?

Brower and James both return to the same distinction in this part of the conversation. Brower did not blame Jonah, did not shame him, and did not yell. James points out that she did not dive into it. Instead she texted him something lightly, the kind of "this happens" note that lets a mistake pass. Her view is that people screw things up, and the sooner you can let it pass, the better, for yourself and for the other person.

Then came the second half of the process, the communication with the other person. Brower says she gave Jonah a version of non-violent communication on the way back, after she knew they would probably make the flight. She said, in effect, that she had felt frustrated and exasperated and that her needs for order and clarity had not been met. Then she made a request, one that she had clearly thought through. Every time he moves about in the world, she asked, he should check for his wallet. She also acknowledged her own part, saying that she handles all the logistics and perhaps had disempowered him by doing so. Brower says it was smooth, that there was no drama, and that they caught the flight.

The sequence is the teaching. Observation, feelings, needs, and self-empathy come first. The request comes second, and it is specific and forward-looking, not a verdict on character. The ownership of one's own contribution keeps the request from sounding like an accusation.

Why does this matter for couples specifically?

Brower is clear that the practice is not new to the two of them, and not a quick fix. She says they have been together thirteen years, that it "has not always been easy or simple," and that "a lot of complexity is present even now." The core of what they describe is not a formula for avoiding conflict. It is a way of organizing the relationship around a simple principle: "we take care of ourselves so that we can take care of each other."

That principle reframes a common pattern in intimate relationships, in which each partner waits to be seen, understood, or repaired by the other. Brower's point is that if you withdraw that expectation and tend to your own feelings and needs first, your partner does not have to carry the whole weight of your emotional life. That is a lighter arrangement for both people, and in her account it is the reason the couple is able to hold the difficult moments.

Where to go from here

If you want to try this yourself, start small. Choose one recent moment that irritated you, not the biggest conflict you have, and run it through the four steps. Write down the snapshot first, with no adjectives. Then name the feelings and tie them to a need. Then offer yourself the sentence Brower uses: "How human of me." Notice whether that changes the next conversation you have with the person involved. Brower frames the practice as something that becomes easier with repetition, and her own example suggests that most of the work happens quietly, inside, before a word is spoken aloud.

The video is short on prescriptions and long on lived detail, which is what makes it useful. Brower and James are not presenting themselves as finished. They are reporting what is currently working, and they have left room for improvement.

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[0:00] We decided to come live with some

[0:03] insights that we have

[0:06] been collecting over the course of the

[0:09] last three weeks in travel together. I'm

[0:12] home for three nights. One more night to

[0:15] go and then I leave again with my son

[0:18] for another retreat.

[0:21] James and I are committed to

[0:25] serving

[0:27] couples

[0:28] and folks who are interested in becoming

[0:33] a couple, finding a partner. We've been

[0:35] serving families

[0:37] and all of this kind of very naturally

[0:40] happening. We've decided that it would

[0:43] be interesting for us to start to on

[0:45] purpose create space where we could

[0:48] share what we're learning as a couple

[0:52] and um creating a a conversation around

[0:56] what's working and what isn't.

[0:59] [laughter]

[0:59] >> This is going to be called room for

[1:01] improvement for that reason. there's

[1:03] always room for improvement and there's

[1:05] always something to celebrate

[1:08] in your greatest efforts. So to that

[1:12] end, um I think one of the things that

[1:16] we have been doing really well lately,

[1:19] we haven't fought

[1:21] >> not much, very little

[1:22] >> really. And we've been giving each other

[1:25] feedback in ways that are really um

[1:28] gentle and constructive and productive.

[1:32] and also caring.

[1:36] And the way that we do that is with

[1:38] non-violent communication.

[1:41] And if you haven't learned about it,

[1:44] it's really clunky at first, really

[1:46] awkward, and seems really unnatural.

[1:50] And slowly over time with practice and

[1:52] commitment it becomes easier and easier

[1:55] to execute both within yourself when

[1:58] you're offering yourself empathy

[2:01] and with whomever else uh the person

[2:04] with whom you're communicating

[2:07] the most important part I think to start

[2:09] if if we can start off this way is with

[2:12] self-mpathy.

[2:13] >> Sure. Um there is a whole conversation

[2:17] that we have in our in ourselves. It's

[2:20] mostly trash talking

[2:23] sadly.

[2:24] And when we don't offer ourselves

[2:26] empathy, that trash talk ends up being

[2:28] how we speak to anybody else in our

[2:30] space. particularly those closest,

[2:33] particularly those uh who have been

[2:38] historically frustrating in our lives,

[2:41] frustrating to us.

[2:44] Whatever the situation, it matters not.

[2:47] What does matter is that we have tools

[2:50] to give ourselves our own

[2:52] acknowledgement and recognition and move

[2:55] through the world feeling seen within

[2:58] ourselves so that we don't go around

[3:01] trying to get seen by other people.

[3:04] Making sense so far?

[3:05] >> So far so good. Loving it.

[3:07] >> Okay. Um I'm also pouring tea right here

[3:10] for us. So I'll do that in a moment. But

[3:12] I want to set this up really well so

[3:14] that James can talk.

[3:16] Self-mpathy looks like four steps just

[3:19] like communication does in non-violent

[3:22] communication. And if you bear with me,

[3:23] I will be sure to include the feelings

[3:25] and needs list in this post when it gets

[3:28] posted. The first step is an

[3:30] observation. So an observation is a

[3:34] snapshot. It's not an opinion. It's not

[3:37] an analysis. It's just a snapshot. When

[3:40] I saw that, when I did that, when you

[3:46] said those words, there's no plus or

[3:49] minus, no positive or negative. It's

[3:51] just what happened. Snapshot,

[3:53] observation, first step. The second step

[3:55] is the feelings that you're having as a

[3:57] result of that observation.

[3:59] So the big learning for adult humans,

[4:02] for all humans really, I wish I would

[4:03] have learned this as a kid, is that we

[4:05] don't, nobody causes me to feel a

[4:08] certain way. Even if I love them, even

[4:11] if I'm so disappointed, even if I'm so

[4:14] sad, somebody's dying, nobody causes me

[4:17] to feel a certain way. There is a

[4:19] situation out there. I'm observing the

[4:21] situation. I have my feelings.

[4:27] They're mine.

[4:28] And the the moment we start to really

[4:32] see that and get that that nobody causes

[4:35] us anything,

[4:37] we feel agency and we start to take

[4:41] ownership of our life and our behavior,

[4:44] our own hearts, our own understanding.

[4:48] The third step is the needs that aren't

[4:51] being met or are. We can use this also

[4:53] for thankfulness. And it's really nice

[4:55] to always review the positive way of

[4:57] using this mode of communication too.

[5:01] And the fourth step is giving ourselves

[5:03] empathy. How human of me to feel this

[5:05] way right now. Wow. Wow. So, let's do an

[5:08] example.

[5:09] >> How about when the kid lost his wallet

[5:10] at the airport?

[5:11] >> Oh my goodness. Two days ago. Two days

[5:14] ago. This is totally amazing.

[5:17] We go up. I'm all checked in. I've

[5:20] checked in all the bags. My our my kid

[5:22] is with us and he's rolling up to the

[5:25] counter. He's about to hand in his

[5:26] license and he's like, "Oh my god, my

[5:28] wallet. My wallet. My wallet. I don't

[5:30] know where it is." We run to the car

[5:33] like sprinting. We then check his

[5:36] tracker. There's an Air Tag on this

[5:38] wallet. The tracker isn't showing. It's

[5:40] a new phone. We are just basically

[5:43] tripping. I pay $45 to have the

[5:46] government confirm that his ID so that

[5:48] we can go through security. The tracker

[5:51] then somehow miraculously on the new

[5:54] phone becomes available to him. He sees

[5:56] that the phone that the wallet is at the

[5:59] Airbnb where we were staying. It's

[6:01] exactly half hour away. We have exactly

[6:03] 1 hour and 20 minutes to get to the

[6:05] flight

[6:05] >> cuz we're early and well prepared.

[6:07] >> Thank God.

[6:08] >> So we drive this whole time in the car.

[6:12] I'm giving myself empathy. Wow. Wow. And

[6:15] all this is happening silently, but this

[6:17] is a great example. Thank you.

[6:18] >> Sure.

[6:20] When I realized that Jonah had left his

[6:22] wallet at the Airbnb,

[6:25] I felt frustrated, exasperated,

[6:29] scared, and annoyed. Uh my needs for

[6:34] order and clarity were not being met.

[6:36] How human of me. How human of me. And as

[6:40] I'm driving and I'm speeding just a

[6:42] little and I'm trying to be safe and

[6:44] he's sitting next to me and he's

[6:46] actually being extremely Jame, not James

[6:48] is sitting next to me, Jonah sitting

[6:50] next to me being very positive. I'm

[6:52] sitting there giving myself empathy over

[6:53] and over. Different feelings, different

[6:55] needs that aren't being met. Just saying

[6:57] it inside of myself, not allowed.

[7:00] And it's working. It's slowly quieting

[7:03] me down. We get to the house. He

[7:05] realizes that the wallet was thrown out

[7:09] in a bag when we arrived. We figured it

[7:13] out. We got the wall back, got back to

[7:15] the airport. But the whole time of

[7:17] giving myself empathy means that I am in

[7:20] contact with myself. I am not reaching

[7:23] out, throwing tentacles,

[7:25] throwing out energy to try and get

[7:27] something back from somebody else. I'm

[7:29] giving it to myself. And I think this is

[7:33] the core of what is going right with you

[7:36] and me right now. We've been together 13

[7:38] years. It has not always been easy or

[7:41] simple. A lot of complexity is present

[7:43] even now. And we take care of ourselves

[7:48] so that we can take care of each other.

[7:50] >> All that's clear so far.

[7:53] >> Awesome.

[7:54] I Ally, I love you.

[7:58] >> [laughter]

[7:58] >> I think what's also important in that

[7:59] though, just to take one quick break, is

[8:01] that you didn't blame him. You didn't

[8:03] shame him. You didn't yell at him.

[8:05] Definitely not. Like the consequences of

[8:07] his actions will be realized by all of

[8:10] us. And people screw things up. The

[8:12] sooner you can let it pass, let it pass.

[8:14] You let it pass for yourself and you

[8:16] also let it pass for him. You didn't

[8:18] dive in. And you know when I saw him I

[8:22] was texting him

[8:24] kind of jokingly you know like hey yeah

[8:27] [laughter]

[8:28] >> making fun of him for forgetting things.

[8:30] >> I didn't even make fun of him. I was

[8:32] just like ah this happens you know if we

[8:34] miss the flight we'll catch the next

[8:35] one. Don't worry about it.

[8:36] >> Totally. And in this whole time

[8:41] thank you for saying that James because

[8:42] in the whole time I never once shamed

[8:44] him. All I said was I gave him

[8:46] non-violent communication too on the way

[8:48] back cuz now I knew that we were

[8:50] probably going to be fine. I said,

[8:53] "Dude, when I realized that you left

[8:54] your wallet at the Airbnb, I felt

[8:57] frustrated and exasperated. My needs for

[8:59] order and uh clarity were not met." And

[9:03] my request, and this is how we

[9:05] communicate with somebody else instead

[9:08] of after we've given ourselves empathy

[9:09] for the matter, say it a few times. My

[9:12] request, Jonah, is that you, every time

[9:16] you go or come, every time you're moving

[9:19] about in the world, even when I'm here

[9:21] and I'll take ownership of the fact that

[9:23] I do all the logistics and I love taking

[9:25] care of you and perhaps I have

[9:27] disempowered you by doing so.

[9:30] >> Every time you move about,

[9:33] you check for your wallet

[9:36] >> and

[9:39] it was smooth. There was no drama. And

[9:42] we caught the flight.

[9:42] >> And we caught the damn flight. We had

[9:44] like 10 minutes to get on.

[9:45] >> We had a good laugh about it, too.

[9:47] >> Lots. Still going.

[9:48] >> Still, still going.

[9:50] >> Still going. Um, of course, there's so

[9:54] much other context and really just

[9:56] hilarious a life that is being lived

[9:59] quietly and simply. Um, but this this is

[10:02] something that works and I feel called,

[10:05] James and I both feel called to share

[10:07] >> to recap and then we'll get into some

[10:10] stuff with us. If you wish to recap

[10:12] observations,

[10:14] the feelings and again I'll post the

[10:16] feelings and needs list uh when I post

[10:18] this on Substack.

[10:20] >> Observations, the feelings that I'm

[10:22] having, the needs that aren't or are

[10:25] being met, the empathy for myself,

[10:28] like really seeing myself. And I like to

[10:30] say when I offer this in groups, I like

[10:33] to say I empathy until I feel full up to

[10:35] here of my own seeing, of my own care,

[10:38] my own empathy

[10:40] >> all the way up to here.

[10:43] >> When I'm in communication with somebody

[10:44] else, it's the requests that I'm making.

[10:49] I I maybe it's worth mentioning how to

[10:51] say thank you with NBC. I love doing

[10:54] that.

[10:54] >> Sure. But I think I think the point is

[10:57] that an NVC

[10:59] self, you know, looking at yourself that

[11:02] way is um it's the same. It's it really

[11:05] puts it's the opposite of negative

[11:07] speech to yourself, you know, like

[11:10] rather than beating yourself up and

[11:11] whatever that negative voice is. [gasps]

[11:14] And NVC, empathy is the complete

[11:17] opposite. It's like how human me. Gosh,

[11:20] you know, we were out at a wedding.

[11:23] Jonah was DJing at the wedding. Had a

[11:26] lot going on. We're still laughing about

[11:28] the wedding the next day. You forget

[11:30] your wallet. It happens. How human of

[11:33] you. You're 20. It's okay.

[11:36] >> Thanks, babe.

[11:38] >> It's called forest floor.

[11:42] [snorts]

[11:42] >> Yeah.

[11:42] >> Your favorite kind.

[11:43] >> Tastes like dank branches.

[11:45] >> Yes. Um there were some other things

[11:48] that we wanted to talk about. the

[11:50] struggle against negativity that you've

[11:52] had your whole life. And

[11:53] >> you talked about an NBC apology

[11:55] possibly. Do you want to do that?

[11:57] >> No, I was thinking about a thank you

[11:59] actually.

[11:59] >> Yeah. Okay. But you did mention that.

[12:02] >> Yeah. Maybe next time.

[12:03] >> Okay.

[12:05] >> I think worth it to mention that this is

[12:07] hard for for folks who grew up in houses

[12:11] where there was a lot of negativity and

[12:14] a lot of shaming happening, a lot of

[12:16] blaming happening. So it's it's more

[12:20] challenging to make this mode of

[12:22] communication within oneself and with

[12:25] one another natural. So I just want to

[12:29] say that and say that your um James when

[12:34] I see how you historically were

[12:36] communicating up until a couple of years

[12:38] ago, it's really hard for you to feel

[12:41] safe in conflict because of your

[12:44] childhood. And I and I fully understand

[12:46] that. And that has has been historically

[12:51] uh a source of discord. And when I

[12:55] learned NBC with Judith Hansen Lacader,

[12:58] thankfully by some miracle she offered

[13:01] this to me over time.

[13:03] When I learned it, I was able to

[13:05] continue to give him and myself empathy

[13:09] so that he would continue to feel safer

[13:13] and safer even when we were having a

[13:16] conflict.

[13:18] I also grew up with a temper and you

[13:22] know a family that was not um not

[13:26] [snorts] averse to yelling and shouting

[13:28] and slamming doors. And so I too had to

[13:31] give myself so much empathy for all of

[13:34] that behavior and learn how to unravel

[13:38] that habit energy so that I could

[13:42] provide safety for this human when we

[13:45] were not agreeing on something. And that

[13:48] still that still goes on. I'm still

[13:50] struggling with that. you're still

[13:52] working with, you know,

[13:55] speaking in negative terms rather than

[13:57] positive terms or speaking in

[13:59] comparative terms rather than positive

[14:02] terms. And it's all a process. And I

[14:05] think the the fun part of all of this

[14:07] and just coming at you completely, oh

[14:10] natural,

[14:13] um is the validity of this process and

[14:17] how weird, awkward, clunky, and also

[14:22] valid it is

[14:24] to work with one another, to work with

[14:27] oneself

[14:28] using this process of non-violent

[14:31] communication, to make an observation,

[14:33] to remind ourselves that nobody Nobody

[14:34] is causing any feeling. This is just the

[14:36] feeling we're having when we see this

[14:38] thing

[14:40] to note the needs that are or aren't

[14:42] being met

[14:44] and to give ourselves real empathy.

[14:47] >> Agreed. Yeah. I grew up in a house where

[14:50] there was a lot of negativity and there

[14:52] was a lot of bonding around othering

[14:56] different people. So

[14:59] trash talking was just sort of part of

[15:01] the, you know, did you see their

[15:04] clothes? Did you just, you know, what

[15:06] it's like? But that negative speech um

[15:10] really impacted my whole way of

[15:12] thinking. And I work very hard now. It's

[15:15] amazing what a [snorts] persistent bad

[15:17] habit it is to connect over negativity

[15:21] usually about other people. And I really

[15:23] just try and keep it positive now. like

[15:25] if there's something that I really want

[15:27] to say

[15:28] >> um there's always a way to say it

[15:30] positively and um it just brings me down

[15:33] you know like just talking poorly of

[15:36] other people what a horrible habit and I

[15:38] think it also leads to negative selft

[15:43] talk so keeping it positive externally

[15:47] keeps my conversation positive

[15:49] internally

[15:51] >> I think that's a big shift and uh that's

[15:54] thanks to you lane be

[15:56] >> word.

[15:58] Let's do a positive. Let's do it an NBC

[16:00] thank you. It's very fun to do and this

[16:02] way you our viewer will get to see both.

[16:07] So James

[16:09] >> just handed me a check for a pair of

[16:11] sneakers

[16:14] so that he would be the giftgiver of

[16:16] these very fun and wonderful sneakers

[16:18] that I wanted rather than me buying them

[16:20] for myself. So he gave me a check for

[16:22] the whole amount. When you said when you

[16:24] just handed me that check just now as a

[16:26] gift for my birthday, I felt

[16:31] seen and loved and cared for and

[16:37] so sweet.

[16:39] >> All of my needs for um just simple

[16:43] partnership and well wishes and love and

[16:48] sweetness were met.

[16:51] >> Thank you. Oh, you're welcome. Just for

[16:54] a little context, it was an expensive

[16:55] pair of sneakers and I went into the

[16:58] store kind of dragging her in saying,

[16:59] >> "I would have never gotten them. They're

[17:01] awesome."

[17:02] >> I really want to get you these. Um, and

[17:04] then my card bounced due to suspicious

[17:07] activity.

[17:08] [laughter]

[17:10] I was like, "Oh god,

[17:11] >> I forgot that detail."

[17:12] >> Yeah. So, she wound up paying for them

[17:14] and I was like, "I'll pay you back." So,

[17:15] another thing is I'm being good to my

[17:17] word. I think she forgot about it, but

[17:19] it's like, "Hey, I said I'd buy you

[17:21] these. Let's uh let's follow through on

[17:23] that." And then each time I see her

[17:25] [snorts] walking around in her spanking

[17:27] new kicks, I can think, "Oh, I put that

[17:30] on her."

[17:32] >> That's so sweet.

[17:34] >> It's a It's a simple thing, but I I

[17:37] think Sorry, I don't mean to interrupt

[17:39] you. You finish your sentence.

[17:40] >> I was done. I I think that the way to

[17:43] say thank you to somebody and really be

[17:45] specific about the feeling you're having

[17:47] and the needs that have been met, as

[17:50] Judith taught me so beautifully, h it's

[17:53] just such a deep connection and it's

[17:55] also an energy inside of ourselves that

[17:58] we're generating

[18:00] >> as we give somebody that gift of a thank

[18:03] you in this way with all of these steps.

[18:06] >> You know what I think might be useful?

[18:08] Let's talk about taking feedback cuz I

[18:10] think that's a real place where people

[18:12] get tripped up. I see it all the time

[18:15] where a couple will say something or

[18:19] really in any relationship, someone will

[18:20] say something to someone and it will be

[18:23] taken personally. And in this container,

[18:28] it's probably a little different than

[18:30] other relationships, but I really trust

[18:33] that uh Elena has my best interest at

[18:36] heart. I trust that she sees things that

[18:39] I probably don't about myself.

[18:42] I trust that she doesn't have a need to

[18:46] make me wrong so that she feels better

[18:48] about herself. I trust that her view is

[18:53] honest and objective and that she wants

[18:57] what's best for me. So if Elena says

[19:00] something,

[19:01] I can be damn sure

[19:05] that it is a valid mirror and that the

[19:10] mirror isn't distorted and lying to me

[19:13] for personal gain or personal needs. So

[19:16] within this relationship,

[19:18] um I know that if she sees something,

[19:21] it's in my best interest to look at it.

[19:23] I want to improve all the time. Um, and

[19:28] if my fly is open or, you know,

[19:30] metaphorically,

[19:31] >> which it often is,

[19:32] >> my back pockets hanging out, these are

[19:34] things I might not see. And so, it's

[19:36] really helpful to thank you to um have

[19:41] her feedback. And when I get it, I don't

[19:44] go, "Oh, that's you." Or, "Oh, you know,

[19:48] why are you always talking?" I don't

[19:51] It's not necessary. It's just, "Thank

[19:54] you. Thank you for that feedback. I will

[19:57] try my best to incorporate it. And you

[19:59] know, if you see me struggling with it

[20:01] again, let me know. You think all that's

[20:04] accurate?

[20:05] >> It's so accurate. And in fact, I can own

[20:07] that I have a harder time doing that.

[20:10] >> I I have really a hard time taking

[20:12] feedback. It is the the the the leading

[20:15] growth edge in my life. But dude, your

[20:17] edges are so well polished that there's

[20:20] very little to I mean, what even

[20:22] feedback

[20:23] is there? Very little. Very, very

[20:26] little.

[20:27] >> In any case, it's a joy to be in a place

[20:32] where we can talk about this with you.

[20:35] hopefully to serve you in some way to be

[20:38] of benefit in your partnerships inside

[20:40] of yourself.

[20:42] Even thanking yourself for something

[20:44] wonderful that you've done in this way,

[20:47] the observation, the feelings that

[20:49] you're having, the needs that you've

[20:51] just met for yourself. And thank you for

[20:55] those for those experiences. Wow. It's

[20:58] such a nice way to live inside of a

[21:00] body. We're here for so few years

[21:04] and to just be in contact with ourselves

[21:06] in this way and to be able to then take

[21:08] it to our friendships,

[21:10] to the people we're serving,

[21:13] it's so sweet to our kids.

[21:17] So, so sweet.

[21:19] >> And um let's see. Oh, that's fun. Taran

[21:24] suggesting we do the couples any

[21:27] we're a two. I don't know what I am.

[21:30] >> He's a two and I'm a three at at last

[21:33] look. That was a few years back with

[21:35] some really deep humans that love us. So

[21:39] [laughter]

[21:40] that's what we got. Um I think that was

[21:43] all we wanted to share today. I feel

[21:45] like we got I feel like I we served up

[21:49] what we were intending to serve up and

[21:53] >> there will be more from us. There's

[21:55] something about this um idea of room for

[21:58] improvement that feels true. I'm trying

[22:02] to figure out what it is that I want to

[22:05] keep doing in my life and what it is

[22:07] that I want to do as I grow older. There

[22:09] are trainings I want to take. I think I

[22:11] want to be an acupuncturist. I've always

[22:13] dreamt about TCM school. But I also

[22:16] think that you and I offering insights

[22:21] into ways of relating, I think we do a

[22:24] really good job. We've helped a lot of

[22:26] folks quietly off offline

[22:30] >> and I think this might be a way forward.

[22:32] I certainly feel a lot of love and uh

[22:36] satisfaction right now and contentment

[22:38] and maybe this is something we'll keep

[22:40] doing and maybe it's called room for

[22:41] improvement.

[22:42] >> That's nice. I think we got to really

[22:44] figure out where we need to improve, but

[22:47] that's a good problem.

[22:49] >> Totally. Totally. Totally good. And is

[22:52] there anything else that you wanted to

[22:53] add today? Um,

[22:55] >> just that we've been on the road for a

[22:57] long time. I kind of followed Elena

[23:00] around. I have to admit, she has such an

[23:03] interesting, you know, weddings and and

[23:06] uh retreats and classes and I always

[23:09] enjoy going sort of just for the

[23:11] studentship of it. Um, and also just to

[23:13] keep on the same page with my partner.

[23:16] And during that time, I mean, I still I

[23:20] run a business. I run a design agency.

[23:22] And I still did what I needed to do

[23:25] while we were away.

[23:27] >> Right. That's a good point.

[23:28] >> Yeah. I didn't just sort of like

[23:29] collapse into your life. I was maybe

[23:33] >> supporting actor, but I still had my own

[23:35] role. Um, and I think that's important

[23:38] to maintain polarity in a relationship

[23:42] where I'm not, you know, I'm not just

[23:44] following you around. I have a full

[23:46] life. You have a full life. Our two full

[23:49] lives meet in the middle and we have a

[23:51] third life there. And uh, what a blast.

[23:56] Yeah. I just had such a great time with

[23:58] you. um particularly went to a very

[24:03] humble wedding that God just two just

[24:06] love between two people that's all you

[24:08] need one of my favorite weddings ever

[24:11] and it was

[24:12] >> I think it was my favorite wedding

[24:13] >> too was so salt to the earth you know

[24:15] the friends brought flowers people they

[24:17] knew cooked wasn't about the size of the

[24:20] wedding

[24:20] >> everybody bought plates

[24:22] >> right it was it was such an eclectic I

[24:25] felt like it was 1850 and you know

[24:28] you're at your local parish people are

[24:30] getting married and just pure community.

[24:33] Loved that.

[24:34] >> Yeah.

[24:35] >> And

[24:35] >> that was special. Really special.

[24:37] >> I certainly wouldn't have been involved

[24:39] with that had you not been the efficient

[24:44] >> efficient efficient [clears throat]

[24:45] >> efficient efficient. There was one

[24:47] aspect that I think you just glossed

[24:50] over that's really important to add.

[24:54] On the way there, maybe in the week

[24:56] leading up to going on this trip, James

[24:59] was really freaked out about being away

[25:01] for so long, convinced that he can only

[25:04] work at home. His work is primarily

[25:07] virtual. The person who has been his

[25:10] right hand for many years lives on the

[25:13] East Coast. They're always working

[25:15] online on over Zoom. So there's really

[25:18] no actual reason for him to need to be

[25:21] here other than I just, you know, it

[25:23] would be nice to be home all the time,

[25:25] of course, and that that's true for most

[25:27] folks. He was really having a hard time

[25:30] with it. And I said, "Look, here's what

[25:32] we're going to do. There are millions of

[25:35] humans who are working virtually, who

[25:37] are traveling all the time and working

[25:39] online. Why don't we do this trip as an

[25:43] experiment? I'm going to do my best to

[25:46] support you having full many hours

[25:49] during the day where there is no

[25:50] disturbance for you. You have your own

[25:52] space, your own work space, your own

[25:55] quiet. I'll make sure that that happens

[25:57] and I'll protect your quiet. Let's see

[26:00] how it goes. And this was the first time

[26:03] actually that you were able to do a

[26:06] significant amount of work, move things

[26:09] around while we were on the road.

[26:12] >> For sure. And I made a real effort to uh

[26:15] create that space for you. And wherever

[26:18] we landed, I made sure there was a room

[26:20] that was quiet with a door and a Wi-Fi

[26:22] connection.

[26:24] Simple things. simple things, but to uh

[26:29] here's my point to acknowledge what my

[26:33] partner needs to,

[26:37] you know, it wasn't that comfortable in

[26:38] certain places to create the space that

[26:41] he requires in order to do work. He's

[26:43] dyslexic. He needs it really, really

[26:45] quiet.

[26:48] Was really satisfying to me. Like

[26:50] selfishly, I had such a nice time

[26:53] knowing that I was going and doing

[26:55] whatever I was doing, taking class,

[26:57] going to food shop with Jonah, whatever

[26:58] I was doing during the days before I was

[27:00] teaching. And James was working

[27:04] >> and doing what he needed to do. And

[27:07] there was something really wonderful

[27:08] about that. And I think my invitation to

[27:10] you watching here is don't don't

[27:15] deny yourself the opportunity

[27:19] to provide someone you love with

[27:21] something that might not be easy or

[27:24] comfortable

[27:25] or exceptionally lovely for you in the

[27:29] moment. Do it anyway. Because the

[27:32] satisfaction of creating space for

[27:34] somebody or something delightful for

[27:37] someone you love

[27:40] has no limit.

[27:42] And I I still feel it. I still feel

[27:45] really good about how that went. And now

[27:47] I feel really good about you coming with

[27:50] me on other

[27:52] >> trips next year.

[27:53] >> That was really nice. I felt seen and

[27:56] understood. And it the the sound thing

[27:59] is really hard for me. you were um

[28:02] >> like a really really gracious and uh

[28:05] yeah

[28:05] >> like a little mouse really quiet.

[28:07] >> I appreciated all of that. Thank you.

[28:09] >> You're welcome. Welcome.

[28:12] So I think the last note for those who

[28:14] may have come late we went over the

[28:16] whole uh four-step process of NBC. We

[28:19] started with giving ourselves empathy

[28:22] and then going into what it means to

[28:24] communicate with NBC both if we need

[28:27] something that's hard to ask for and if

[28:29] we get something that we're really

[28:30] grateful for. And I would encourage you

[28:33] to watch this whole video cuz it's it's

[28:36] pretty good. I think we did a really

[28:38] good job of this. But here's the point.

[28:41] The whole point is each of us has our

[28:44] own feelings and we consistently accuse

[28:47] other people of causing feelings within

[28:50] us. And it's simply not the case. I see

[28:54] something happening, I have a feeling of

[28:56] my own. You see something happening,

[28:58] you're going to have a different feeling

[29:00] about it. You're not necessarily going

[29:02] to feel the same way. We have to

[29:03] continue to remind ourselves as human

[29:05] beings on this earth in this time with

[29:08] this political atmosphere in which we

[29:11] are swimming,

[29:13] this sadness, this grave disparity, all

[29:17] of the terrors of this current reality

[29:20] in which we are living right now. We

[29:23] have to remind ourselves to take

[29:25] ownership for the feelings that we are

[29:27] having, to not project them onto other

[29:29] people, and to really communicate in a

[29:32] way that is not violent in the smallest,

[29:35] simplest, tiniest moments of our days.

[29:38] Take care of each other. Take care of

[29:40] ourselves so that we can take care of

[29:42] each other. I think this is the most

[29:45] important and primary thing that we can

[29:47] do most consistently to take care of

[29:50] this earth right now. Mhm. And your joy

[29:53] is not a betrayal.

[29:54] >> And your joy is not a betrayal. There's

[29:57] a post called that.

[29:59] >> That's one of the best teachings I have

[30:01] ever received.

[30:02] >> Your joy is not a betrayal. Remember

[30:06] that.

[30:08] >> I want to tell the San Francisco, the

[30:10] Asheville people, North Carolina people

[30:12] that I'm going to be in Asheville

[30:13] tomorrow night, October 14th, at

[30:15] Maliprops talking about Hold Nothing, my

[30:18] book.

[30:19] I want to tell the people in San

[30:21] Francisco, if you live in San Francisco

[30:23] or in the Bay Area, I'll be at Sydney

[30:25] Goldstein Theater on November 14th with

[30:27] dear Diego Perez Young Pueblo

[30:32] launching his next book. It's called

[30:34] Journey and it's magical. And we could

[30:35] have just not even talked about anything

[30:37] we talked about and just talked about

[30:39] that. And he's saying the same thing

[30:41] essentially

[30:42] >> through his very deep long practice of

[30:46] meditation.

[30:48] I am honored to be here and I want to

[30:51] give you Substack subscriber, I want to

[30:54] give you an NVC thank you. Are you ready

[30:55] for it?

[30:58] >> Okay.

[31:02] When I come on to Substack, literally

[31:04] every time

[31:07] I feel elated,

[31:10] I feel thankful.

[31:13] I feel

[31:17] happy.

[31:20] easeful, peaceful,

[31:23] excited,

[31:25] inspired.

[31:27] My needs for

[31:30] care,

[31:31] contribution,

[31:33] inspiration,

[31:36] being seen, being understood.

[31:41] My need for knowledge,

[31:44] my need for intelligence.

[31:48] my need for creativity. All of those

[31:50] needs are met here on Substack.

[31:55] >> Thank you from my heart.

[31:57] >> Thank you.

[31:58] >> Thank you so much.

[31:59] >> And happy birthday, Angel.

[32:01] >> Thank you so much. Thank you for my

[32:03] sneakers.

[32:06] [sighs and gasps]

[32:06] >> And we'll see you again soon. There's

[32:09] always room for improvement.

[32:12] Thank you.

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In the video, Elena Brower describes self-empathy as offering yourself acknowledgment and recognition before you speak to anyone else. It follows the same four steps as non-violent communication: observation, feelings, needs, and empathy for yourself. She argues that when people skip this step, their inner criticism becomes the way they speak to the people closest to them.
Brower lays them out as observation, feelings, needs, and giving yourself empathy. The observation is a neutral snapshot of what happened, with no opinion or analysis attached. The feelings and needs steps name what you are experiencing and what is or isn't being met, and the final step is a line such as 'How human of me to feel this way right now.'
Brower says no. In the video she states that even when someone we love does something painful, nobody causes us to feel a certain way. She says the situation is out there, we observe it, and the feelings are our own, which is the step where she believes people begin to take ownership of their lives.
Brower recommends first giving yourself empathy, then sharing a snapshot of what happened and how your needs were affected, followed by a specific, forward-looking request. In her example, she avoided blame and shame, let the mistake pass, and asked her son to check for his wallet each time he moved about. She also acknowledged her own part in the pattern.
Brower says it is 'really clunky at first, really awkward, and seems really unnatural.' She explains that with practice and commitment it becomes easier, both in offering yourself empathy and in communicating with others.
They chose the name because there is always room for improvement and always something to celebrate in your greatest efforts. They use it to share what is working in their relationship and what isn't, starting from a stance of recent progress rather than crisis.
During a tense drive to recover a wallet her son had left at an Airbnb, Brower repeatedly named her feelings and needs to herself, saying 'How human of me.' She says this kept her from throwing her frustration onto her son and helped the family catch their flight without drama.

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