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Mixed Gunas and Karma: Telling Good From Bad in Practice

SRV Associations
SRV Associations
Oct 28, 2026
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A student in a Vedanta discussion class raises a problem that anyone who has tried to live by spiritual principles will recognize. The readings say that mixed karma is more dangerous than unmixed karma. Pure tamas is easy to see, and so is pure rajas. But when the gunas blend, the line between what helps and what harms gets hard to draw. How, the student asks, do practitioners recognize that kind of karma, and how do they deal with it? The answer, given by Babaji Bob Kindler in his Brahman Bytes class on October 24, 2026, does not begin with a rule about actions. It begins with a question about the mind that is doing the acting, and it runs through two qualities Vedanta treats as the foundation of all practice: the ability to discriminate between the eternal and the temporary, and the ability to detach.

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Why Is Mixed Karma Harder to Read Than Pure Karma?

To follow the answer, it helps to hold the basic vocabulary steady. The gunas are the three qualities, or modes, that the Indian tradition sees in all of nature and in the mind. Sattva is associated with clarity and balance, rajas with restless activity and desire, and tamas with heaviness and dullness. Karma, in this context, is the chain of action and its results that keeps a person tied to the cycle of birth and death. When a person acts under the influence of one guna in its pure form, the motive is relatively legible. Anger is rajas. Sloth is tamas. Calm attention is sattva.

Mixed states are the problem. A deed can look generous and still be driven by vanity. A sincere act of service can carry a hidden need for approval. The student was asking precisely about this ambiguity, and the teacher's response was that the difficulty is real and does not dissolve by applying an outside checklist. He reached instead for a color scheme, a device that treats the gunas like shades that blend. In his telling, rajas sits in the warm range, moving through yellow toward a white that marks pure sattva, with combinations filling the spectrum between them. The point of the color code is not decoration. It is a way of seeing that the gunas are rarely found in isolation, and that the tinge of a motive matters as much as its label.

The teacher was careful to say that the color scheme is a starting point and that the real skill lies elsewhere. Sorting mixed motives requires a faculty that most people have not yet trained. That is where he turned the conversation.

What Is Viveka, and Why Does It Come First?

Viveka is discrimination, the capacity to tell the unchanging from the changing, the real from the false. The teacher framed it as the main gift of Vedanta and as the quality the modern West most needs. He credited Swami Vivekananda with arriving in America and England carrying exactly this dose of discernment, at a time when materialism, sensuality, and what he called outright delusion were spreading. A large part of the problem, in his account, is that people cannot separate real power from false power, the power of God from the power of the occult.

For a practitioner, viveka is not an abstract idea. It is a skill that has to be sharpened, and the teacher used an image of a swordsman practicing every day, lifting the blade and swinging it. That sword is what lets a person cut through the confusion of mixed motives. In his explanation, the Vedanta path includes four qualifications, a set often called the sadhana chatushtaya, and viveka and vairagya (detachment) come first, described as two great jewels in a casket. Viveka makes it possible to see clearly what is essential to the life of the spirit and what is not. Only then does it make sense to renounce.

"Maya is just unspeakable. It's inscrutable is the best English word. You cannot figure it. So back off from it. When you back off from it, then it becomes clear to you what's causing you your confusion and your delusion."

(Babaji Bob Kindler, Brahman Bytes, October 24, 2026)

The sentence about maya carries a second lesson. The teacher was not suggesting that a student should fight maya, or define it as either real or unreal. Following Shankara, he described maya as beyond both categories. The practical consequence is that clarity comes from stepping back rather than from pushing harder. You see what is driving you once you stop identifying with it.

What Does Detachment Actually Mean in Practice?

The second jewel, vairagya, is the detachment that follows discrimination. A common misunderstanding, the teacher suggested, is that detachment means renouncing everything and walking away from others. He rejected that reading. At its highest level, he said, detachment means being able to detach and attach at will. The aim is freedom, not withdrawal, and Vedanta holds that everyone is already free but does not yet know it.

"The detachment at its highest level means that you know, um, you're able to detach and attach at will. It doesn't just mean that I detach, renounce and go away and leave everyone."

(Babaji Bob Kindler, Brahman Bytes, October 24, 2026)

Here the teacher drew a line between two kinds of renunciation. A monastic can cut away possessions and obligations swiftly, he said, while householders work through the same principle by degrees, lightening up karma, possessions, and attachments over time. Renunciation with a capital R, in his framing, is a mental position, and it is available to ordinary people living ordinary lives. The point is not to own less so much as to hold everything more lightly, so that the weight drops away on all sides.

This connects directly to the original question. Mixed karma is hard to read because the mind is invested in the outcome. Detachment loosens that investment, which makes the motive easier to see. A person who is not clinging to a result can notice the rajasic push or the tamasic drag behind an action without being swept along by it.

How Do You Watch the Gunas Change From Day to Day?

The teacher's most practical advice came from a teaching he attributed to Holy Mother. Sitting in meditation at the same time every morning is not only about having a special vision of God. It is also a way to see how the gunas shift from one day to the next. Regular sitting becomes a laboratory. Over time, a practitioner notices that the mind has its cycles, and that what felt like a clear state yesterday may be heavy or agitated today.

He tied this to a broader idea about time as the facilitator of cycles, a clock with gears turning inside gears. Every process is one of those gears. Seeing the gunas as they pass is a way of seeing how the gears mesh. The practice he described has two stages. In meditation, you learn to pinpoint the guna and watch it move. Then, if you have trained well enough, you begin to notice it in the middle of ordinary life. "You can feel the guna pass," as the class put it in its own shorthand.

He also described the gunas as threads on a spool, constantly winding and unwinding, and the work of the practitioner as unwinding them until the mind is quiet. That image pairs naturally with the warning he gave about spiritual teaching that is heard but never rehearsed. A teaching that is not regularly pounded into the mind, he suggested, does not hold. It fades under the pressure of the day.

Why Can't Balance Wait Until Evening Meditation?

The YouTube description for the class captures one of its sharpest points, and it is worth quoting in full context. The teacher argued that practice should not be a scramble to repair damage at the end of the day.

"We shouldn't have to race back to meditation at the end of the day to regain our balance. We shouldn't be struggling to keep our balance during the day."

(Babaji Bob Kindler, Brahman Bytes, October 24, 2026, as summarized in the class description)

In this view, the discipline is stopping several times a day to check the mind, not only sitting in the morning. Stopping allows the teaching to settle in. Without it, a person can move through the day reacting, and by evening the mind is so churned that a single meditation session cannot undo it. The student who asked about mixed karma was really asking how to live with the uncertainty that such blended motives create. The answer was to build a practice steady enough that the uncertainty becomes something you can observe in real time instead of something that carries you off.

Where to go from here

Mixed karma is not a problem that disappears once it is named. The teacher's approach offers a practical path. Begin by building discrimination through study and reflection, asking which things in your life are lasting and which are passing. Practice detachment as a mental stance, letting go of the outcome of actions while staying engaged with the people and duties in front of you. Sit at the same time each morning and watch how the gunas move from day to day. And stop during the day to check your balance rather than waiting for evening to repair it.

Those who want to hear the full discussion can find the class material through SRV, which publishes its weekly class schedule on its home page at srv.org. The original question, about how to recognize mixed karma, is one that practitioners will keep returning to. The teacher's answer is that the recognition comes from the same faculty that ends the confusion: a mind sharp enough to see clearly and steady enough to stay there.

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[0:08] There was some mentioning in the

[0:11] readings that

[0:13] mixed karma is more more dangerous than

[0:17] than uh than non-mixed karma.

[0:21] Like for example if we have Thomas every

[0:26] for everybody that's evident that that's

[0:28] Thomas or if we have Rajas then you can

[0:31] see like in their purest form that is

[0:34] something that is recognizable but when

[0:36] it's in regards to mixed mixed goonas

[0:40] then there's

[0:42] there's a harder way to distinguish what

[0:45] is good and what is bad and so

[0:49] uh how how would uh practitioners deal

[0:52] with that type of karma

[0:55] um and u how to to recognize it

[1:01] >> right well that's definitely where we

[1:02] have a a very strong edge in vdanta

[1:05] because it it starts out I mean it's

[1:07] vanta has been called almost the avoid

[1:10] of practice you know I some vanta at the

[1:12] highest level is just that you are that

[1:15] you know realize that and walk away from

[1:17] everything else um so it's hard to find

[1:20] a method in vdanta. That's why those of

[1:22] us who got vanta but weren't quite

[1:25] mature enough to to yet to uh comprehend

[1:28] it fully, we went to yoga. And that's

[1:31] also u advised by the Indian rishies uh

[1:34] true yoga not not the yoga that's out

[1:36] there today so much but that's these

[1:39] different four yogas and some of some of

[1:41] the powerful yogas that that are there

[1:43] for us. So basically and you know what I

[1:47] was talking about was the colors of the

[1:49] karma uh but you bring in the colors of

[1:52] the goonas which they're also can be

[1:54] colorcoded like that red and you know

[1:57] yellow and white is a nice nice color

[1:59] assignment for rajas and then

[2:01] combination of rajas and sauta and then

[2:03] pure sauta would be beyond yellow it' be

[2:06] pure white. Uh so anyway what

[2:09] [clears throat] I was going to say in

[2:10] direct response to your question was in

[2:12] mudatantu we have that powerful edge

[2:14] that that gives us vivika and that's why

[2:17] swami vivikananda was the first on the

[2:19] scene in America and England because

[2:23] what do the westerners need you know

[2:24] they really need a good strong dose of

[2:27] discrimination between the unchanging

[2:29] and the changing because materialism and

[2:33] sensuality and even worse hedenism and

[2:37] outright delusion and war and violence

[2:39] have come upon them in a big way because

[2:41] of power. So they're not even

[2:43] discriminating between real power and

[2:46] false power. That is the power of God

[2:49] and the power of the occult. So there's

[2:51] so much swept into the power of the

[2:53] occult that they're getting mixed up in

[2:55] metaphysics. Uh you could probably color

[2:58] code all that too, but basically the

[3:00] real power is that intelligence we've

[3:02] been talking about and the vivika is

[3:04] what get gets you there. So in the case

[3:07] of a devity like you're talking about

[3:09] basically they really need to get a hold

[3:11] of that sort of discrimination that

[3:14] mother collie holds and sharpen it you

[3:16] know polish it every day practice

[3:18] lifting it practice swinging it just

[3:21] like any swordsman would young boy would

[3:23] as he as he took on you know knighthood

[3:26] you might say so basically getting a

[3:29] hold of that power of ikananda and then

[3:31] applying it to the complexities of maya

[3:34] and the wheel of samsara is the way in

[3:37] which uh the vidantas work on that. So

[3:41] that's if there's any practice to be

[3:43] cited really in vidanta would be the

[3:47] those uh sadna chhatushtai it's called

[3:50] the four aspects of true sadna true

[3:53] practice you know that's basically

[3:56] vivika vraa shats and uh and uh then at

[4:01] the end of course the the moia part of

[4:04] it

[4:06] um so viva and vyra come first as the

[4:09] two two great jewels in the casket uh of

[4:13] of this treasure. And um they they need

[4:17] to be vivaced first so that you can

[4:20] really tell the difference between

[4:21] what's confusing and what's clarifying,

[4:24] what's true love and what's false love,

[4:27] what's changing, what's unchanging,

[4:28] what's essential to your life and what's

[4:30] non-essential and can be rejected and

[4:33] renounced outright.

[4:36] uh make some real positive strong

[4:38] decisions about that based on hone

[4:40] discrimination and then get yourself

[4:43] quickly to to the ability to to detach

[4:47] from anything and everything. When we

[4:50] reached that understanding then the

[4:52] swami that I learned under shashandanda

[4:55] gi maharaj peace and blessings be upon

[4:58] him always he started changing his tone

[5:00] a little bit for the older students and

[5:02] he was saying all right so now

[5:05] detachment you understand what's real

[5:06] and what isn't now let's let's hone in

[5:09] on that second jewel called vyogum

[5:13] detachment or discernment sometimes it's

[5:15] called in English so you need to

[5:18] practice your detachment and discern

[5:20] ernment. So he said remember then that

[5:22] uh the detachment at its highest level

[5:25] means that you know um you you're able

[5:29] to detach and attach at will. It doesn't

[5:31] just mean that I detach, renounce and go

[5:33] away and leave everyone you know devil

[5:36] take the hindmost kind of thing. You

[5:38] know you want vidantto wants freedom for

[5:40] everyone because purely everyone is free

[5:43] but just doesn't know it yet. So how to

[5:45] lift those veils so they'll come to know

[5:47] their atman is is is a matter of

[5:50] uncovering maya. It's not a matter of

[5:52] beating maya or or uh assuming that maya

[5:56] is real or unreal. It's why shankara

[5:58] defines maya as neither real nor unreal

[6:01] nor a combination of both or beyond

[6:03] both. I mean maya is just unspeakable.

[6:06] It's inscrable is the best English word.

[6:09] You cannot figure it. So back off from

[6:12] it. When you back off from it, then it

[6:14] becomes clear to you what's causing you

[6:17] your confusion and your delusion.

[6:20] Confusion of the mind, delusion of the

[6:23] body, that that you're a body. So, and

[6:27] delusion that the world is real in any

[6:29] way when it goes away for you every

[6:31] night in deep sleep. So you get this

[6:34] kind of detachment and you hone you hone

[6:36] it like you did the sort of

[6:38] discrimination uh and you start cutting

[6:41] away with this sword of of vivika

[6:44] everything that's um surplusiferous

[6:47] you know not not not applicable to your

[6:50] true life uh and to to the life of the

[6:53] spirit to the eternal life and you begin

[6:56] dropping things and weights on all sides

[6:59] uh I mean aasan does that swiftly and in

[7:02] a in in a major way. Uh other

[7:04] householder practitioners and so forth

[7:06] you're talking about, they'll do it by

[7:08] degrees as they're able to uh to live

[7:12] through the process of lightening up

[7:15] lightening up karma, lightening up some

[7:17] scars and um uh lightening up

[7:21] possessions. Uh all of those things

[7:24] apply to this great

[7:27] um

[7:28] uh

[7:30] principle of detachment leading to

[7:32] renunciation. Renunciation with a

[7:35] capital R.

[7:37] So this um this is very pertinent to the

[7:41] uh god blogs that were we were taking

[7:45] this last two weeks. Um because the the

[7:47] goddess you know we're talking about has

[7:50] this heft hefts the sword. there's some

[7:52] reason why it's there. It's not just,

[7:55] oh, please cut off my head of ignorance

[7:56] and that's be done with it. But

[7:58] basically, you need to do the cutting

[8:01] yourself. She she she will help you, but

[8:04] you you need to develop the strength to

[8:07] be able to to take on the weight of that

[8:10] great great um jewel of of of Vivika.

[8:15] Again, why Swami Vivikananda is amongst

[8:18] us again with that particular name.

[8:22] So apply that to the confusing ad

[8:25] mixture of goonas, karmas

[8:28] uh and um

[8:31] and color coding that you're doing with

[8:32] them. Uh so that you can pinpoint them,

[8:35] put your finger on them as they pass.

[8:37] Holy mother made that beautiful

[8:39] teaching. remember that that the reason

[8:41] you sit in meditation at the same time

[8:43] every morning uh you know is not just to

[8:46] see God and have that that beautiful

[8:48] vision open up that one specific

[8:51] meditation that's talked about but it's

[8:53] so you can see how the goas change dayto

[8:55] day and you can then pretty much see how

[8:58] cycles work you know one of the asapo

[9:03] was mentioning in her class on on

[9:05] Wednesday I brought out that teaching of

[9:07] one of the meanings of time is that It's

[9:09] the facilitator of cycles. Endless

[9:12] cycles inside of cycles. It's like a

[9:14] great watch or a great clock with all

[9:16] these gears in it. For everything you

[9:18] can think about has a gear that's

[9:20] turning. That's a part of the process.

[9:23] Um and and so in in terms of practicing

[9:27] sodna and and the the goonas and the

[9:31] karmas and that you have you you've

[9:34] pinpointed them and you see how they're

[9:36] passing in your mind. Pretty soon you

[9:38] get so good at that that you're not just

[9:40] doing it in meditation,

[9:42] you know, but you're doing it on the run

[9:44] in your life. You can feel the gona

[9:46] pass. Uh the three goonas pass in an

[9:49] hour. And you realize that's the mind

[9:51] that's that they're passing across, not

[9:53] my atman's, you know, mother's will is

[9:56] just keeping me going. I don't stop for

[9:59] the goonas anymore. I don't suffer them

[10:01] anymore. They just pass. And that's why

[10:03] Sher Christian holy mother favored that

[10:05] teaching of of uh you know the three

[10:08] three colors of thread wound on the

[10:10] spool of the mind. The spool is the mind

[10:13] and white, red and black thread, right?

[10:16] The spools constantly winding. I mean

[10:19] sorry the mind is the spool that's

[10:21] constantly winding these three colors

[10:23] types of karma or three kinds of goonas

[10:26] if you want. And it just winds him up

[10:29] till it gets so fat that basically you

[10:32] know it can't think anymore and move

[10:34] correctly. It can't take anymore. So

[10:37] spiritual practice discrimination varium

[10:40] and all that stops the spool in its

[10:42] tracks and then slowly it starts to

[10:44] unwind. And she says and then people say

[10:47] oh am I enlightened yet? She says no you

[10:49] have to unwind what you wound now. So

[10:52] you're going to feel all these things

[10:53] that you wound on in reverse order.

[10:56] That's what the description is like of a

[10:58] person who's who's feeling the goonas

[11:01] and the karmas go by them but it's not

[11:04] affected by them anymore. They're still

[11:06] in the mindest thoughts because you

[11:08] remember uh I don't know accumulating

[11:12] them but now you're rejecting them. Now

[11:14] you're renouncing them. So you have to

[11:16] feel it go off of you in reverse. The

[11:19] mind spins in the opposite way. It's

[11:21] actually kind of another good a good

[11:23] analogy to use for the wheel of samsara.

[11:25] that just spin it in a different way.

[11:28] And uh the fact that you still remember

[11:32] ignorance, you still remember lust, you

[11:33] still remember various passions, you

[11:36] still remember negative things that

[11:38] happened to you, you still have a memory

[11:41] of them. It just means that they're

[11:43] passing by you, but they're passing by

[11:45] you in the opposite direction. Now

[11:47] you're you're unwinding them until the

[11:50] spool of the mind ends up you know as

[11:52] pure mind original beyond the goonas

[11:55] free of karmas and without any samscaras

[11:58] except those samscars that are uh for

[12:01] holy things like remembrance of your

[12:04] guru remembrance of god dashmi you know

[12:08] you have you have all your mind is

[12:10] always on these beautiful memories you

[12:12] don't want to think anything negative

[12:14] anymore

[12:15] that's why van on to describe it. He

[12:17] says all all neg all positive, all

[12:20] positive. No more negative, he said. So

[12:23] um that that's a

[12:26] spiritual awakening and you have to be

[12:28] in mastery of it. You can't just let it

[12:33] go like aow field, you know, hoping that

[12:36] the good things will grow and the bad

[12:37] things won't.

[12:39] Uh constantly weeding and, you know,

[12:42] ending up with just the crops and and

[12:46] expedating the all the weeds and the

[12:48] unnecessary things. That's going to be

[12:51] what you do with that power of

[13:06] Julie Sharma Krishna used to sing that

[13:07] all the time. uh there's a song written

[13:10] about him uh rather that u said there's

[13:14] a a new man who's come if you want to

[13:16] see him come with me but when you see

[13:18] him don't be surprised he doesn't have

[13:20] any belongings he's not like big

[13:22] powerful rich with lots of powers and

[13:26] walking on water and shining with a

[13:27] light necessarily

[13:29] what he's got is a a just a shoulder bag

[13:32] over his shoulder and inside of if you

[13:36] open up there's only two things viva

[13:38] vyra His last two possessions are just

[13:41] discrimination and detachment.

[13:43] Discrimination and detachment.

[13:45] Uh so it's it's very advantic. It's very

[13:50] Zen Buddhist. It's very daoist, you

[13:53] know. It's it's it's it's that whole

[13:56] non-dual weightless effortless

[14:00] um

[14:02] caralous and strivingless

[14:04] uh state of enlightenment that is so

[14:07] hard to put your finger on and describe

[14:09] in words. But beings have attained it

[14:12] and so we see it written on their

[14:14] features. Uh that's that divine

[14:17] impression that's written on them.

[14:19] That's that intelligence we look for

[14:21] too. It shines off of them like ojas,

[14:25] like tjas

[14:27] and um you benefit in the light in the

[14:30] presence of that light

[14:33] and that teaches you how to uh become

[14:37] like them. I and my father are one. Be

[14:40] the as thy father in heaven is perfect.

[14:43] You become like them. And um there are

[14:47] dynamics to that. That's what we're

[14:48] saying. uh because otherwise people try

[14:51] and jump from the lowest step to the

[14:53] highest step and they forget what the

[14:55] middle steps are all about. So they come

[14:58] tumbling down eventually without any

[15:00] supports. But if you go go this step by

[15:02] step uh by avastas they're called stages

[15:06] and realize each step is made of the

[15:08] same thing as the last step and you

[15:11] convince yourself that all steps are

[15:13] taken in mother with her will with her

[15:16] wisdom and her service. Icha Gana and Ka

[15:20] then then you've found your way to that

[15:23] final enlightenment

[15:25] from which you will never fall again.

[15:35] Having seen her no other form can I

[15:37] enjoy

[15:39] one one song writer sacred songwriter

[15:43] sings. So you want that light of of

[15:47] mother essence

[15:51] shakta.

[15:58] I think um stopping as we were talking

[16:01] about at godblocks last over an hour I

[16:03] mean at s song an hour ago I said

[16:04] stopping and and taking some time to

[16:07] contemplate and ruminate is something

[16:10] that's missing in many people's lives.

[16:12] So maybe they can be very high when they

[16:14] meditate in the morning. They get into

[16:15] life, everything falls apart. Then they

[16:17] have to rush back to their evening and

[16:19] morning meditation to get balanced

[16:21] again. You shouldn't have to get

[16:22] balanced again. You should never lose

[16:23] your balance. So it it it says that it

[16:27] speaks to the fact that basic people

[16:29] aren't stopping uh to to really make

[16:32] sure that these teachings are are um

[16:35] pounded into the very ground of their of

[16:39] their mind. We used to use that. I was

[16:43] going across a bay bridge whenever I

[16:45] visited all of you many times a year in

[16:48] a car, right? And then they decided to

[16:51] rebuild the bridge and then they started

[16:54] building a new bridge right side of it.

[16:56] So for a while you're losing the old

[16:58] bridge and then when they opened up the

[17:00] lanes in the new bridge, you were going

[17:02] on that. You could see the old bridge

[17:03] off to the left when you were coming

[17:04] into San Francisco. And there's a whole

[17:07] couple of years it was like that. But in

[17:09] the meantime, I noticed

[17:12] uh how they were driving these huge

[17:14] pylons into the very bedrock of under

[17:18] underwater San Francisco Bay area, just

[17:20] pounding those down there with these big

[17:22] machines to get them as far down as

[17:25] possible, you know, and it always

[17:27] reminded me of what we have to do with

[17:29] with Ganam, you know, and in order to do

[17:32] that, we have to stop. And meditation,

[17:36] I've often been saying lately, is not

[17:38] enough. You have you have to have

[17:39] contemplation with it to make it stick.

[17:43] That's what Shramak Krishna said. Snow

[17:45] does not stick on a wet road. So you dry

[17:48] out the road of your mind by stopping

[17:50] and considering and then you drive these

[17:52] teachings deep in them in in in moments

[17:55] of uh moments, minutes, hours of deep

[17:59] rumination. I mean Krishna and others uh

[18:02] all say that find a quiet place go to it

[18:06] and uh think on me and the teachings. Um

[18:09] that's something that's got to be um

[18:12] brought back as as a as a a main main

[18:16] part of our sodna.

[18:18] [sighs] Uh so if you do that every day,

[18:20] you'll find that you're not you're not

[18:22] rushing to try and get balanced anymore.

[18:24] You're you're not even struggling to try

[18:26] and keep balance. uh you are in a yogic

[18:30] state all the time and the other things

[18:32] as I said are just like passing through

[18:34] your mind as memories.

[18:37] Um, Holy Mother also called that burnt

[18:41] rope, right? A rope the a rope that's

[18:45] burnt still looks like a rope. She said,

[18:48] "But it can't bind you anymore. A wind

[18:50] can pull it apart." So, she's talking

[18:53] about these thoughts that people

[18:54] complained about after they'd met her,

[18:56] got the mantra and practiced for a while

[18:59] and they didn't they didn't feel like

[19:01] they were fully enlightened yet. She

[19:03] said, "That's because you're holding

[19:05] these thoughts and you're thinking of

[19:07] them to be real, but think of them more

[19:09] like burnt ropes or burnt strings.

[19:12] They're still there as memories, but

[19:14] they can't bind like a like a burnt rope

[19:16] can't bind you anymore. So, a lot of the

[19:19] battle becomes psychological at that

[19:21] part of spiritual life. And you have to

[19:23] un like you had to unmake your your

[19:26] physical karmmas and your your karmas of

[19:29] desires and all those things. Now you're

[19:31] at a place where you have to unmake the

[19:32] mental

[19:34] uh psychological uh uh part of your

[19:38] being and convinced that that the thing

[19:41] many of the things the minds

[19:44] are holder must be subject to vivika and

[19:46] vyra they must be uh extated must be

[19:52] dissolved and dissolve them back into

[19:54] your into your uh great authority the

[19:58] great mother

[20:00] and uh come out free and clean. Like

[20:04] Sham Krishna said, you don't bathe an

[20:06] elephant in the morning. If you're an

[20:09] elephant driver, elephant owner, you

[20:10] don't bathe it in the morning. You know,

[20:13] you wait till night and bathe it. Then,

[20:16] you know, you put it in its hut in its

[20:18] stall and it's wet. You know, if you

[20:22] bathe it in the morning, it just rolls

[20:24] in the dirt and the bath has no effect.

[20:28] It's just all muddy and dirty again. You

[20:30] climb on it, you get muddy and dirty. So

[20:32] he said, "Never bathe an elephant in the

[20:34] morning. Bathe it at night, put it in

[20:35] its stall." He's talking about our

[20:37] minds. Make sure you give that mind its

[20:41] cleaning. Uh um and uh do it, you know,

[20:45] before uh uh the darkness comes. And so,

[20:49] you know, and it's it's put in its stall

[20:52] of deep sleep. It's put in its stall of

[20:54] meditation. and it's put in its stall of

[20:57] samadei. Um uh it's put in its stall of

[21:00] enlightenment and then it can't roll in

[21:03] its stall. It's all clean. It'll stay

[21:05] clean. They come out the next morning

[21:07] clean and not wet. Even if it does roll,

[21:10] it doesn't get muddy. So beautiful

[21:13] analogies the great masters given us for

[21:15] spiritual life. And I think many of them

[21:18] that are important to us in the west in

[21:20] this time uh are are those ones about

[21:23] spiritual awakening.

[21:26] Awakening and holding ground.

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The gunas are the three qualities or modes found in nature and the mind: sattva (clarity and balance), rajas (restless activity and desire), and tamas (heaviness and dullness). In the Brahman Bytes class, Babaji Bob Kindler said pure forms of tamas and rajas are easy to recognize, while blended forms are harder to read.
According to the reading the student referenced in the class, mixed karma is harder to distinguish because a single action can blend good and bad motives. When the motive is not clearly one guna, it is easy to mistake a self-serving action for a helpful one.
Viveka is discrimination, the ability to distinguish the unchanging from the changing and the real from the false. The teacher described it as a skill to be sharpened through practice, like a swordsman training daily, and as the first step before detachment can work effectively.
Not necessarily. The teacher said the highest detachment means being able to detach and attach at will, not leaving everyone behind. He described householders lightening karma and possessions by degrees, with renunciation understood as a mental position available to ordinary people.
Sitting at the same time each morning lets you observe how the gunas shift from day to day, which the teacher linked to a teaching attributed to Holy Mother. With practice, you can begin noticing the guna passing in the middle of ordinary activity, not only during meditation.
The class description quotes the teacher saying practitioners should not have to race back to meditation at day's end to regain balance or struggle to stay balanced during the day. His point is to stop several times daily to check the mind, so that teachings are reinforced continuously rather than repaired after the fact.
The teacher said Shankara defined maya as neither real nor unreal, nor a combination of both, nor beyond both. Because maya is unspeakable, practitioners are advised to step back from it rather than fight it, and clarity about what causes confusion emerges from that stepping back.

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