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Mindfulness on 60 Minutes: Kabat-Zinn, Ryan and the Brain

Lani Muelrath
Lani Muelrath
Jan 23, 2018
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Picture a remote mountaintop in Northern California, a weekend retreat, and a room of neuroscientists, business leaders and Silicon Valley executives who have just surrendered their last link to the outside world. Their laptops and phones go into a basket. There is no television, no internet, not even an alarm clock. Then they sit, and mostly they stay sitting, for three days of silence broken only by occasional instructions. That is the scene at the center of a 60 Minutes segment on mindfulness, the one Lani Muelrath, author of The Mindful Vegan: A 30 Day Plan for Finding Health, Balance, Happiness, and Peace, says she closes her live presentations with. The segment is a sharp, accessible overview of what mindfulness meditation is, where it came from, who has taken it up, and what researchers are beginning to see in the brain when people practice it. It is worth understanding on its own terms, because the practice it describes is simple to state and very hard to do.

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Where did mindfulness come from, and who brought it to hospitals?

The segment's central figure is Jon Kabat-Zinn, an MIT-trained scientist who has practiced mindfulness for 47 years. In 1979 he began teaching mindfulness through meditation to people suffering from chronic pain and illness. That program, the segment notes, is now used in more than 700 hospitals worldwide. The arc matters. Mindfulness did not begin as a lifestyle trend or a Silicon Valley perk. It began as a clinical tool for people whose bodies hurt and whose lives had narrowed around that pain.

The segment defines the practice in plain terms: being aware of your thoughts, physical sensations and surroundings. Kabat-Zinn's framing, as the piece presents it, is that mindfulness is being present. The narrator sets that against the way most of us actually live. Email, Twitter and texting keep us constantly connected, and we are rarely alone with our own thoughts. One of the most striking moments in the segment is a woman's admission that she does not feel very present in any moment. She is either planning for what is coming down the road or replaying what has already passed. Kabat-Zinn's point is that we are only alive now, and most of us spend very little of our now in it.

What does mindfulness look like in an ordinary morning?

The segment makes its case through the most ordinary moments of a day. When the alarm goes off, you can either be pulled straight out of bed by your calendar, already mentally at the first meeting, or you can take a moment to lie there, feel your body breathing and remember that it is a new day and you are still alive. From there you can get up with awareness, brush your teeth with awareness, and take a shower with awareness. The segment's wry aside is that you may not be in the shower at all. You may be in your first meeting, with fifty people in the room with you.

This is the heart of the practice, and it is why the segment keeps returning to small things. Mindfulness is not a special state reserved for the cushion. It is the quality of attention you bring to whatever you are already doing, and the retreat is simply a place to train that attention without the usual distractions.

Why is sitting still so hard to do?

The retreat scene is the segment's most honest moment, because it shows how difficult the basic instruction is. Participants were asked to settle into an erect and dignified posture and simply know that they are sitting. That sounds simple. The segment's correspondent discovers it is not. Kabat-Zinn pointed participants toward the breath, asking them to ride with full awareness on its waves, at the belly, at the nostrils, in the chest, and then rest in awareness. The correspondent tried, found it was not restful at all, and worried she was doing it wrong, her mind returning again and again to work.

Kabat-Zinn's answer, as the segment presents it, reframes the whole problem. He describes meditation as a mental workout. The mind wanders away from the breath, and you gently and without judgment bring it back. The wandering is not the failure. Returning is the exercise. He compares the mind to the Pacific Ocean, always producing waves of thought. Mindfulness, in his telling, is the practice of going below the agitation on the surface and settling into the breath deeply enough to find calm. After hours of sitting in 30-minute sessions, the segment notes, it does get easier. The waves are still there, but you are less carried off by them.

The segment also covers the rest of the retreat's daily life. Participants relearned how to eat, and eating a meal in complete silence feels a little awkward without conversation or a screen to fill the gap. The surprise is that you taste more and eat less. Walking meditation asks you to be aware of each movement and feeling in your feet. It sounds ridiculous, the segment concedes, but it changes how you experience walking. The lesson, in the retreat's own phrasing, is that when you are walking, just walk. That turns out to be the hardest thing of all, and eating just to eat, without the television or the newspaper, turns out to be huge.

Can mindfulness change how Congress works?

One of the segment's most unexpected threads is politics. Ohio Democrat Tim Ryan attended his first meditation retreat in 2008, just days after winning a grueling reelection campaign. He describes his body clenching up in the Budget Committee when someone says something he knows is wrong, and his impulse to catch a colleague in a lie. His practice is to notice that clench and calm down, so that when it is his turn he makes his point without the reflex to attack. Ryan hosts weekly meditation sessions open to members and staff of both parties. He has written a book about mindfulness, and he has secured a million dollars in federal funding to teach it to school children in his Ohio district.

Ryan's case is that mindfulness can change how a legislature talks to itself. In the segment he says he has seen it transform classrooms, heal veterans and help people with very high chronic stress levels heal their bodies. He is also candid that the room is not fully converted. Asked whether he has brought any Republican congressman in to meditate with him, he says they are working on it. The segment, which is aired by a network that rarely does gentle features, treats that exchange with a light touch, and it is one of the moments that makes the practice feel less like a retreat and more like a civic experiment.

What does the brain show during meditation?

The segment's final movement moves from testimony to laboratory. Judson Brewer, a psychiatrist and neuroscientist at the University of Massachusetts, uses mindfulness to treat addiction. He is trying to understand how mindfulness alters the brain's functioning, and he uses a cap lined with 128 electrodes that pick up electrical signals from the top of the head. The electrodes read activity in the posterior cingulate, part of a brain network linked to memory and emotion.

Brewer frames it in terms any athlete would recognize. The physical side of exercise is well understood, he suggests, and the next generation is about working out how to train the mind.

"This is just the next generation of exercise. We've got the physical, you know, exercise components down, and now it's about working out how we can actually train our minds."
— Judson Brewer, in 60 Minutes segment on mindfulness

The correspondent, who had been meditating daily since the retreat, sits for the test. When she thinks of something stressful, the cells in her posterior cingulate begin responding immediately. The excerpt that circulates ends as the readings are getting underway, before the results are explained, so it would be inaccurate to claim more than the segment shows. What it does show is a method: measure the brain during a stressor, then compare it with the brain after a period of training.

Where to go from here

The segment is short, roughly thirteen minutes, and it is the kind of primer that rewards a second viewing. Start with the morning scene. Notice, on your next alarm, whether you are already in your first meeting. Then try Kabat-Zinn's workout in small doses: sit with the breath, notice when the mind wanders, and bring it back without self-criticism. Eat one meal in silence. Walk one stretch with attention on your feet. Those are the exercises the segment describes, and they are where the practice begins. For more context on the speakers, Kabat-Zinn's work with chronic pain and Brewer's neuroscience are the two threads most worth following into longer sources, and the segment's own account of Ryan's Budget Committee experience is a useful reminder that the practice is not only a private refuge.

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[0:00] our lives are filled with distractions

[0:03] email Twitter texting we're constantly

[0:06] connected to technology rarely alone

[0:09] with just our thoughts which is probably

[0:11] why there's a growing movement in

[0:12] America to train people to get around

[0:15] the stresses of daily life it's a

[0:17] practice called mindfulness and it

[0:19] basically means being aware of your

[0:21] thoughts physical sensations and

[0:23] surroundings

[0:24] tonight we'll introduce you to the man

[0:26] who's largely responsible for

[0:28] mindfulness gaining traction his name is

[0:31] Jon kabat-zinn and he thinks mindfulness

[0:33] is the answer for people who are so

[0:35] overwhelmed by life they feel they

[0:38] aren't really living at all there are a

[0:41] lot of different ways to talk about

[0:42] mindfulness but what it really means is

[0:46] awareness is it being present it is

[0:49] being present that's exactly what it is

[0:51] I don't feel I'm very present in each

[0:54] moment I feel like every moment I'm

[0:57] either thinking about something that's

[0:59] coming down the road or something that's

[1:00] been in the past so ultimately all this

[1:02] preparing is for what for the next

[1:05] moment like the last moment like and

[1:07] then we're dead so in a certain way we

[1:10] experience while we're still alive we're

[1:13] only alive now Jon kabat-zinn is an

[1:16] mit-trained scientist who's been

[1:18] practicing mindfulness for 47 years back

[1:21] in 1979 he started teaching mindfulness

[1:24] through meditation to people suffering

[1:26] from chronic pain and illness that

[1:29] program is now used in more than 700

[1:31] hospitals worldwide so how can you be

[1:34] mindful in your daily life when your

[1:36] alarm goes off and you jump out of bed

[1:38] what is the nature of the mind in that

[1:40] moment are you already like oh my god

[1:42] your calendar pops into your mind then

[1:44] you're driven already or can you take a

[1:46] moment and just lie in bed and just feel

[1:48] your body breathing and remember oh yeah

[1:51] brand-new day and I'm still alive so I

[1:54] get out of bed with awareness brush my

[1:56] teeth with awareness when you're in the

[1:58] shower next time check and see if you're

[1:59] in the shower don't even check and see

[2:01] if you're in the shell you may not be

[2:03] you may be in your first meeting at work

[2:04] you may have 50 people in the shower

[2:06] with you Kappas in says mindfulness

[2:09] takes practice a lot of people start

[2:11] with a training class to learn how

[2:13] meditate agreed to teach us at a weekend

[2:16] retreat on a remote mountaintop in

[2:19] Northern California when we arrived we

[2:22] were told there'd be no television to

[2:23] watch no internet

[2:25] not even an alarm clock the retreat was

[2:30] full of professionals neuroscientists

[2:32] business leaders Silicon Valley

[2:34] executives before we began we all had to

[2:37] surrender our last ties to the outside

[2:39] world

[2:40] put your devices in the basket you know

[2:43] I'm contributing my macbook air and my

[2:46] iPhone

[2:48] happily I wasn't exactly happy to give

[2:53] up my phone

[2:54] I usually check email several times an

[2:56] hour so let's take a few minutes and

[3:02] just settle into an erect and dignified

[3:07] posture the retreat lasted three days

[3:10] and most of that time was spent just

[3:12] sitting there silently meditating with

[3:15] occasional guidance from kabat-zinn

[3:17] there's no place to go there's nothing

[3:22] to do we're just asking you to sit and

[3:28] know that you're sitting knowing that

[3:30] you're sitting may sound simple turns

[3:33] out it's not the mind constantly wanders

[3:36] the mind has a life of its own it goes

[3:39] here and there to not get lost in

[3:41] thought kabat-zinn recommended focusing

[3:44] on the sensation of breathing in and out

[3:46] can we actually ride with full awareness

[3:49] on the waves of the breath at the belly

[3:53] at the nostrils in the chest and then

[3:56] simply rest here in awareness resting

[4:00] and awareness is one of those phrases

[4:02] used a lot by people who practice

[4:04] mindfulness but when I tried to do it it

[4:06] wasn't restful and I worried I wasn't

[4:08] doing it right I kept thinking about

[4:10] work

[4:14] [Music]

[4:18] kabat-zinn who's written 10 books on

[4:20] mindfulness and led nearly a hundred

[4:22] retreats describes meditation as a

[4:25] mental workout the mind wanders away

[4:27] from the breath and then you gently and

[4:30] non-judgmentally just bring it back so

[4:33] it's okay that the mind drifts away but

[4:34] you just bring about nature of the mind

[4:36] to drift away the mind is like the

[4:39] Pacific Ocean it waves and mindfulness

[4:41] has been shown to drop underneath the

[4:43] waves

[4:44] if you drop underneath the agitation in

[4:46] the mind into your breath deep enough

[4:48] calmness ten-to-one deletions after

[4:51] hours of meditating in 30-minute

[4:53] sessions it does get easier those waves

[4:56] of thought kabat-zinn described they're

[4:58] still there but you get less distracted

[5:01] by them at breakfast we spent time

[5:05] relearning some of the very basic things

[5:07] in life including how to eat food eating

[5:12] a meal in complete silence is a little

[5:15] awkward without conversation as a

[5:17] distraction you taste more and eat less

[5:24] this is something called walking

[5:26] meditation the goal is to learn to be

[5:28] aware of each and every movement and

[5:30] feeling I know it seems ridiculous but

[5:35] it does change the way you experience

[5:36] walking the Zen people from ancient

[5:39] China when you're walking just walk

[5:41] turns out to be the hardest when you're

[5:45] eating just eat not from the TV not with

[5:48] the newspaper turns out that's huge

[5:51] congressman Tim Ryan an Ohio Democrat

[5:54] says mindfulness might look a lot like

[5:56] nothing but he really believes it can

[5:58] change America for the better he

[6:00] attended his first meditation retreat in

[6:02] 2008 just days after winning a grueling

[6:05] reelection campaign but being mindful at

[6:08] a retreat is one thing we wondered if

[6:11] back in Washington congressman Ryan ever

[6:13] worries about how all this looks well

[6:16] you know I can see myself in high school

[6:18] going whoa stay away from those guys

[6:21] here in Capitol Hill I'm on the Budget

[6:24] Committee for example there's a lot of

[6:25] conflict and people say things that get

[6:28] you ramped up I find myself as my body

[6:31] clenches up when somebody says something

[6:33] that I know is wrong or I want to catch

[6:36] him in a lie or whatever that is calm

[6:39] down when it's your turn you make your

[6:42] point amen

[6:43] you don't hear the words come and

[6:45] Congress together very often the Ryan is

[6:48] trying to change that he hosts weekly

[6:50] meditation sessions open to members and

[6:52] staff of both parties now shifting the

[6:55] attention to take in the entire body

[6:59] have you gotten any Republican

[7:01] congressman in to meditate with you yet

[7:02] no we're working on it he's written a

[7:08] book about mindfulness and obtained a

[7:10] million dollars of federal funding to

[7:11] teach it to school children in his Ohio

[7:14] district yes you are I've seen it

[7:18] transform classrooms I've seen it heal

[7:21] veterans I've seen what it does to

[7:22] individuals who have really high chronic

[7:25] levels of stress and how it has helped

[7:27] their body heal itself I wouldn't be

[7:28] willing to stick my neck out this far if

[7:30] I didn't think this is the thing

[7:34] can really help shift the country to

[7:40] some people though this may sound like

[7:41] kind of New Age gobbledygook there's so

[7:46] many different compelling studies that

[7:48] are showing that this is not New Age

[7:50] Kapil d cook this is potentially

[7:53] transformative of our health and

[7:55] well-being psychologically as well as

[7:57] physically it can be a useful for

[7:59] anxiety depression stress reduction

[8:01] there have been a number of studies that

[8:03] show mindfulness can lead to those

[8:05] benefits as well as improvements in

[8:08] memory and attention and at the

[8:10] University of Massachusetts Judson

[8:12] Brewer a psychiatrist and neuroscientist

[8:14] uses mindfulness to treat addiction this

[8:17] is just the next generation of exercise

[8:19] we've got the physical you know exercise

[8:21] components down and now it's about

[8:24] working out how can we actually train

[8:26] our minds dr. Brewers trying to

[8:28] understand how mindfulness can alter the

[8:30] functioning of the brain he uses a cap

[8:33] lined with 128 electrodes we're gonna

[8:36] start filling each of these 128 Wells

[8:39] with conduction gel the electrodes are

[8:42] able to pick up signals from the

[8:43] posterior cingulate part of a brain

[8:45] network linked to memory and emotion

[8:48] this is all just picking up electrical

[8:50] signal from the top of your head since

[8:53] attending the mindfulness retreat I'd

[8:55] been meditating daily and was curious to

[8:57] see if it had an impact on my brain

[8:59] we're gonna have you start with thinking

[9:02] of something that was very anxiety

[9:04] provoking for you okay when I thought

[9:07] about something stressful the cells in

[9:09] my brain's posterior cingulate

[9:10] immediately started firing shown by the

[9:13] red lines that went off the chart and

[9:15] the computer screen desktop into

[9:17] meditation okay when I let go those

[9:19] stressful thoughts and refocused on my

[9:22] breath within seconds the brain cells

[9:24] that had been firing quieted down shown

[9:26] by the blue lines on the computer that's

[9:29] really fascinating to see like that

[9:30] dr. brewer believed everyone can train

[9:33] their brains to reach that blue

[9:35] mindfulness zone but he says all the

[9:37] technology were surrounded by makes it

[9:39] difficult if you look at people out on

[9:42] the street if you look at people at

[9:44] restaurants nobody's having

[9:46] conversations anymore

[9:47] they're sitting at dinner looking at

[9:49] their phone because their brain is so

[9:51] addicted to it you really think there's

[9:53] somebody in the brain that's addicted to

[9:54] that well it's the same reward pathways

[9:57] as addiction absolutely I'm you know on

[9:59] mobile devices all day long and I feel

[10:01] like I could go through an entire day

[10:02] and not be present and what's that like

[10:05] it's exhausting yeah so all of this is

[10:09] leading to a societal exhaustion the

[10:13] irony is many of the people responsible

[10:15] for creating the gadgets that distract

[10:17] us are themselves practicing mindfulness

[10:20] more than 2,000 people from companies

[10:23] like Google Facebook and Instagram

[10:24] showed up earlier this year in San

[10:27] Francisco for mindfulness conference

[10:29] called wisdom 2.0 please welcome our

[10:32] guest Karin Mei is a Google vice

[10:34] president and that's shade Maine ton a

[10:36] former engineer who's become kind of a

[10:39] mindfulness guru as could only happen at

[10:41] a place like Google his actual title is

[10:44] jolly good fellow which nobody can deny

[10:47] so what is the jolly good fellow' do my

[10:50] job description is to enlighten minds

[10:52] open hats and queer will peace that's

[10:55] your job describe description I've heard

[10:57] that at some meetings at Google you

[10:59] actually start out with moments of

[11:02] silence can we do how long do you sit

[11:05] there quietly for it's literally a

[11:07] minute or two of noticing your breathing

[11:09] calming yourself down being present and

[11:12] then you're able to go into the meeting

[11:14] the business at hand with a little bit

[11:16] more focus does it make people more

[11:18] productive yes it does when the minds

[11:20] uneducated when a minds calm that mind

[11:23] is most conducive to creative

[11:25] problem-solving to innovate correct and

[11:26] one of the powers of mindfulness is the

[11:28] ability to get to death frame of mind on

[11:30] demand

[11:32] so along with their free health clubs

[11:35] and other company perks Google now

[11:37] offers there are 52,000 employees free

[11:40] lessons in mindfulness in the middle of

[11:42] stress and when everything's falling

[11:45] apart you can take one breath you know I

[11:48] can imagine some people rolling their

[11:50] eyes and saying oh come on

[11:51] of course Google you guys have tons of

[11:53] money and there's a massage therapist

[11:55] walking around and and all sorts of nice

[11:57] things for employees but it just doesn't

[11:59] seem practical the advantage of this is

[12:02] it actually doesn't cost anything and it

[12:03] doesn't take much time and you believe

[12:05] it really works

[12:05] I absolutely believe it works after

[12:08] nearly four decades of teaching

[12:10] mindfulness Jon kabat-zinn is happy to

[12:12] see it hitting the mainstream but if

[12:14] you're starting to think mindfulness is

[12:16] something you should start practicing he

[12:18] says you may be missing the point it's

[12:21] not a big should it's not like oh I got

[12:23] it now one more thing that I have to put

[12:25] in my life now I have thought be mindful

[12:26] you know and if it becomes that one more

[12:29] thing they got to do yoga class don't do

[12:31] it don't do it it's not a doing at all

[12:33] in fact it's a being and being doesn't

[12:36] take any time Anderson Cooper tells how

[12:42] mindfulness changed his life go to 60

[12:45] minutes overtime dot-com sponsored by

[12:47] Pfizer

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Lani Muelrath is a health educator, professor and author who has taught for over four decades, blending plant-based nutrition, movement and mindfulness meditation in her work.

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Frequently Asked Questions

In the 60 Minutes segment, mindfulness is defined as being aware of your thoughts, physical sensations and surroundings, which Kabat-Zinn frames as being present. He began teaching it in 1979 to people with chronic pain and illness. The program is now used in more than 700 hospitals worldwide.
Kabat-Zinn describes the mind as the Pacific Ocean, always producing waves of thought, so wandering is its natural behavior. The practice is not to stop the wandering but to notice it and gently bring attention back to the breath. Over time, the segment notes, you become less carried away by those waves.
Walking meditation, as the 60 Minutes segment describes it, asks you to be aware of each movement and feeling as you walk. The retreat's instruction is simply to walk when you are walking, which the segment calls the hardest part. Eating works the same way: eating just to eat, without a screen or newspaper.
Neuroscientist Judson Brewer at the University of Massachusetts is using a 128-electrode cap to study how mindfulness alters brain function, focusing on the posterior cingulate, a region linked to memory and emotion. The segment shows the testing method but cuts off before presenting results, so the findings should be checked in fuller sources.
Ohio Democrat Tim Ryan, as shown in the segment, hosts weekly meditation sessions open to members and staff of both parties. He says he has seen mindfulness help classrooms, veterans and people with high chronic stress. He also describes using it to notice his own physical reactions during heated committee debates.
The segment suggests starting with ordinary moments, such as lying in bed for a breath before getting up, and bringing awareness to brushing your teeth or showering. Sitting with the breath, noticing when the mind wanders, and returning to it without judgment is the core exercise. Eating one meal in silence is another starting point.

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