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Meditation Nausea and Kriyas: A Teacher's Q&A Guide

Stephanie Nash
Stephanie Nash
Sep 8, 2017
9 min read

From Stephanie Nash Meditation

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Near the end of a full day of retreat, the questions tend to arrive quietly. People have spent hours sitting with themselves, and what comes up is rarely the polished insight they expected. In a 2017 recording, meditation teacher Stephanie Nash opened the floor at the close of a daylong session. A woman described feeling nauseous during a sit. A man asked about working with kriyas, the involuntary spasms and twitching that can take over the body in stillness. Nash also offered a few parting words to participants who had to leave early. Her answers share a single premise: the sensations that alarm students are often signs that a long-held sense of orientation is beginning to loosen, and the useful response is to change how you relate to them rather than to fight them. What follows is a close reading of that exchange, with her practical suggestions laid out in full.

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Why does meditation sometimes make you feel nauseous or like you are spinning?

The woman's account was familiar territory for Nash. Her first move was to ask questions that narrowed the picture: did the feeling resemble sleepiness, was it a queasiness down in the body, was there any sense of movement around her, or was the motion happening inside. These are the questions a teacher asks before deciding what kind of help a student needs, and they show that Nash treats a physical symptom as information rather than as an emergency.

Her explanation rested on proprioception, the body's built-in sense of where it is in space. Nash tied that to something more than the mechanics of balance. She described a sense of identity we carry as we move through the world, and she pointed to voice work, where teachers sometimes have people hang upside down because the sense of self while inverted differs from the sense of self when upright. In that shift, people often find they can do things with their voice they could not do before. The implication is that our felt sense of who we are is partly built on a fixed up-and-down frame, and that frame can be unsettled.

That is the reframing at the heart of her answer. Nash called the nausea and spinning "a sign of when we start to let go of an ordering principle." She added that letting go of that principle can be disorienting for some people, and that the discomfort itself can be a sign that you are "starting to kind of break through constructed ways of holding things." It is a striking claim, and she did not present it as a guarantee. But it changes the question a student asks. Instead of "what has gone wrong with my practice?" the question becomes "what structure in my experience is giving way?"

Nash was also clear that the sensation is not trivial. She recalled working with people in hospice who were at peace with their cancer and with dying, yet found the nausea nearly unbearable. Her point was not to minimize the feeling. It was that a sensation can be a meaningful passage and still be very hard to go through, which is why she gave concrete tools.

What is the space outside the body, and why does it help?

"There's a version of working with that: go to the space outside of the body. That's just space." (Stephanie Nash, in her 2017 Q&A video, around 3:15)

Her main instruction was to shift attention from the body's internal motion to the space that surrounds it. She compared this to being underwater, where the water supports you without your having to hold yourself up. The image she offered was of a cushion of space that holds you, but without tension. "There's a freedom there," she said in effect, "more like you're floating in it." The space is open and airy, not a thing to be gripped.

The technique is about where you place attention, not about closing off the sensation. Nash suggested that when things become intense, widening awareness outward can help. Her reasoning was that the nervous system is in the middle of rewiring, and that the sensation will keep returning. In her description, a student may repeatedly approach the threshold, pull back, then approach again. Her aim was to build a way through that does not feel like being overwhelmed and retreating home.

She also kept one anchor in place. For this kind of work, she said she would stay with the extremities, the hands and feet, to maintain grounding, while working with the surrounding space. That combination matters: the body's outer edges give a stable reference point while attention expands into the room.

What is the eye of the hurricane, and how does it apply to kriyas?

When the man asked about kriyas, Nash described two complementary strategies she has used with students whose bodies spasm or move during meditation. One student's body would spasm, and another, she said, went into deep states before his body began twitching in a way that disturbed him. Her approach was to work with the surrounding space, and separately to find an actual center.

"The eye of the hurricane is still space. We've got the life is the hurricane, and we want to be the center and let it all kind of go around us." (Stephanie Nash, in her 2017 Q&A video, around 4:54)

The metaphor does practical work. The body may be a moving hurricane, but there is still a center within it. Nash suggested that for some people, simply closing the eyes and noticing what is there, without trying to fix it, reveals that resting place for the mind. The point is not to make the movement stop. It is to recognize that the movement is happening within a larger stillness that has not been disturbed.

Nash used the word kriyas without much elaboration in this segment, so it is worth being careful about what she did and did not claim. What she clearly described is a teaching stance: involuntary movement is not treated as something to be forced into submission, but as something to be held inside a wider awareness.

Why does fighting the feeling make nausea worse?

One of the most useful points in the exchange is Nash's observation about resistance. The more a student tightens against nausea, the more unpleasant it tends to become. "Who wants to feel nausea? Nobody," she said in effect, and that very reaction, the wish not to feel it, makes the feeling worse.

Her advice was to relax around the sensation. She described using the surrounding space to create a sense of safety and equanimity, so that when you breathe in, the breath can move through an open field. In her image, the breath is not discerning. Air moves through pockets and bubbles, through a flowing openness. The body becomes porous rather than clenched. She was also clear that you do not have to go to the center every time. Approach it as you can, and recognize that the nausea, in her experience, is temporary.

Nash treated the temporary nature of the discomfort as encouraging. Students often respond with relief when told it may pass, and she pointed out that this relief itself is a sign of the same loosening she described earlier.

Does changing posture or lying down help?

Nash was practical about the body's position. She said that in her Mindfulness-Based Stress Reduction work, participants often lie down from the beginning, because people working with pain frequently need to. At retreats, she said, there is a section with reclining lounge chairs designed for pain. Her broader point was that posture is adjustable, and that small changes can ease discomfort. She described a simple setup with a minimal support under the head, and explained how a slight change in how the pelvis sits affects the lower back.

She also noted that lying down can help some people but can lead others to drift into sleep. Her advice was to experiment, to notice what the body is doing, and to adjust the position rather than assume one posture is right for everyone.

What is the "emotional burp," and how should people leave a retreat?

The title of the video refers to emotional "burping," and Nash returned to it in her parting words to people leaving early. Some material, she suggested, comes up and out the way a burp does: sudden, a little awkward, and then over. Her reassurance was blunt and warm. It is just a burp. It is nothing to panic about, and the way to work with it is the same way you work with the rest of the practice, with kindness toward yourself.

She closed with a reminder to be gentle with yourself for the rest of the day, especially when something intense surfaces. Her parting words to those leaving early were a compact summary of the whole Q&A: the body and mind will do unexpected things when they loosen their grip, and the teacher's job, and the student's, is to meet those moments without turning them into a crisis.

Where to go from here

Nash's answers are best treated as a set of tools rather than rules. If nausea, spinning, or involuntary movement arises in your practice, start by widening attention to the space around the body, keep a grounding anchor in the hands and feet, and notice whether tightening against the sensation is making it worse. Then experiment: try the center of the hurricane when the body feels steady enough, adjust your posture, and treat sudden emotional surges as something that will pass.

For more of her teaching, Nash lists several places in her video description: her course and information site at strategic-mindfulness.com, the nonprofit mindfulnessarts.org, her Insight Timer profile, and a Facebook group called Strategic Mindfulness Group. If you are experiencing persistent or distressing physical symptoms, it is worth speaking with a qualified medical professional alongside any contemplative practice.

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[0:05] I get kind of that my head gets really

[0:08] happy and I have to be

[0:12] not for the first notation of

[0:14] I don't know if s so tell me about this

[0:17] so you're you're meditating we see you

[0:20] hit gets heavy you mean like sleepy like

[0:22] before right like a little bit nauseous

[0:24] I'm happy it's happened before and I'd

[0:28] like to just so what kind of queasiness

[0:30] down in here yeah alright is there any

[0:34] kind of do you have a sense of movement

[0:35] like around you it like are you spinning

[0:39] or anything no okay so here's the good

[0:43] news we have a way in which we know

[0:52] where we are we have something called

[0:53] proprioception where we have sensations

[0:56] to tell us the direction we are and

[0:58] there's a kind of identity we have as we

[1:02] go through the world and I know when

[1:03] we're working people with voice we

[1:05] sometimes have them hang upside down

[1:06] because your sense of who you are upside

[1:08] down isn't the same as the sense of who

[1:10] you are right side up so people can do

[1:11] things with their voice when they're

[1:12] upside down that they can't do in the

[1:14] right-side up because there's somebody

[1:16] else so the good news is that's a sign

[1:21] of when we start to let go of an

[1:25] ordering principle that letting go of

[1:29] the ordering principle can be a little

[1:31] disorienting sometimes to certain people

[1:34] and nausea or a sense that I'm spinning

[1:38] or something like that people get like

[1:40] whatever disturbed by that but that's

[1:44] actually a sign that you're kind of

[1:47] starting to kind of break through

[1:49] constructed ways of holding things now I

[1:53] know nauseous like really not fun and

[1:56] and I've worked with people like they're

[1:58] dying in the hospital and they're fine

[2:00] with the cancer and they're fine with

[2:01] dying but that nausea is just killing

[2:04] them you know they're mean it's like

[2:05] it's really something so in terms of it

[2:10] in my experience so this is anecdotal

[2:13] but in my experience working with

[2:16] hundreds of people that you passed

[2:19] through that but it is something to go

[2:22] through so sometimes when the spinning

[2:25] happens or something like that do you

[2:27] have a sense of

[2:28] everything's spinning around or moving

[2:30] around you or the this is moving on the

[2:32] inside I'm probably asking you questions

[2:36] you haven't considered and this has

[2:43] happened before

[2:45] okay so you know what we worked with

[2:50] before for the when I have that deep

[2:53] dark knot and I go outside inside

[2:55] outside inside there's a version of

[2:57] working with that what I would do with

[3:00] that would be go to the space outside of

[3:02] the body

[3:04] so I'm sitting here and this is all

[3:07] moving and I'd go to the space outside

[3:10] of the body that's just space you can

[3:12] even think of it as you know when you're

[3:17] underwater and the water just kind of

[3:19] supports you not to hold yourself up you

[3:22] can think of there like there's a

[3:23] cushion of space around you that's got

[3:27] you right but it's it's it's space it's

[3:32] open it's air it's kind of got that and

[3:34] that when this gets to be a lot moving

[3:38] the awareness out can be just helpful as

[3:42] because you're having to rewire and you

[3:45] what's gonna happen is you'll keep going

[3:46] up to that door and then backing off and

[3:48] going on and then you'll go up to that

[3:50] door and back off

[3:51] you gotta come and go through it but so

[3:53] we want to create a way to go through it

[3:56] that you don't go home i gosh it's too

[3:58] much so that of the grounding what we're

[4:02] doing today this the feeling the feet I

[4:04] would stay with the extremities hands

[4:06] and feet but I would definitely work

[4:11] with the space outside of the body and

[4:13] you might even go it might be something

[4:16] about like that what is that two feet

[4:20] something about like that that this

[4:23] space in a way I want to say holding you

[4:26] but without tension there's a freedom

[4:28] there more like you're floating in it

[4:31] but it but there it is a cushion of

[4:35] space there's a cushion to it and so I

[4:39] would work with that a little bit

[4:41] because that

[4:41] that'll open it up because what happens

[4:43] when we're in the middle of things like

[4:46] this that's what's happening well the

[4:54] eye of the hurricane is actually is

[4:55] still spot I actually work with that a

[4:58] lot because we got the life is the

[5:00] hurricane and we want to be we want to

[5:03] be the center and let it all kind of go

[5:05] around us so I actually used the eye of

[5:07] the hurricane especially I have some

[5:09] people who get crias so when they're

[5:14] meditating their body will spasm or

[5:16] they'll go into these things or I know

[5:19] one guy goes into these really deep seas

[5:21] but then his body just starts twitching

[5:24] in this way that's disturbing to him and

[5:28] stuff so we worked I worked in two ways

[5:31] with him one was I worked with this

[5:33] space around the other was really

[5:36] finding an actual space in the center

[5:39] that's the eye of the hurricane the

[5:42] thing that it doesn't matter that the

[5:44] body is just the moving hurricane and

[5:48] you've got a center still space within

[5:50] that and so you can play with for some

[5:55] people the blank can take people to that

[5:58] and for a lot of people you know you

[6:03] know when you close your eyes and you

[6:04] just look at what's there that's that

[6:06] resting place for the mind if you go are

[6:12] you good yes good have a good rest of

[6:17] your move and let the boxing that the

[6:20] taking things out of boxes can be a

[6:22] meditation just like the washing of the

[6:24] bowl you can take something out and go

[6:26] ah where do you belong and it's a gift

[6:30] right and because your nesting - that's

[6:33] a good thing you're very good

[6:36] alright good moving stress people had

[6:41] some of the people shared with me some

[6:43] of their stresses coming in so I know

[6:44] like a very stress nice - nice to see

[6:48] you so that that that's also that but

[6:53] with nausea I don't tend to go

[6:55] the still space quite yet because going

[6:58] to the center kind of takes you into the

[6:59] middle of that so the relaxing around it

[7:04] and let the more you tighten up against

[7:08] it

[7:08] the more it becomes unpleasant nausea

[7:10] like the more you kind of because you go

[7:14] oh who wants to feel nausea nobody so

[7:18] the more you go I don't want to feel

[7:19] that that actually makes it worse it

[7:23] actually does so but I'm using the space

[7:27] around to help create a safety and an

[7:30] equanimity so that you can allow when

[7:34] you breathe in that the breath is moving

[7:36] through that there's that it's not

[7:38] discerning that there's space within it

[7:40] there's bubbles and pockets of air or a

[7:43] flowing openness within it

[7:46] it's like porous it's not that but first

[7:54] this will help create that and then you

[7:56] can breathe around it there's no need to

[7:59] however going to the center you don't

[8:02] have to do that every time so do it as

[8:05] you can but it is in my experience

[8:06] that's temporary and that's a sign

[8:09] you're letting go of an order and think

[8:12] so that's actually goodness I know

[8:14] people go oh great great

[8:17] really goodness and lying down for some

[8:24] people that works yeah in other words

[8:30] you can play with the positioning of the

[8:32] body the thing I do if sleep is an issue

[8:36] lying down I wrote a whole article I'm

[8:39] finishing a book now on it but if you

[8:42] ever lie down MBSR has people lie down

[8:46] from the beginning because they're

[8:48] working with people with pain and when

[8:50] people are in pain often they have to

[8:52] lie down so it our retreats we even have

[8:54] a kind of whole section with people in

[8:56] the kind of chairs these like kind of

[8:59] lounge chairs designed for pain and you

[9:02] got kind of the pain group over here and

[9:04] they're all on the terrace you know

[9:05] these kind of lounge chairs but the

[9:09] main thing that I have people do and

[9:12] you'll remember this remember Isis they

[9:14] assume the position but I'm not going to

[9:16] do that position that you know but when

[9:19] people lie down no oh I'm still plugged

[9:23] in oh good I keep on plugging it what I

[9:26] have people do when you lie down no more

[9:29] than that much under the head so it'd be

[9:32] like the equivalent of a book you don't

[9:36] want the head up like that it's also not

[9:38] good to sleep that way for the body but

[9:41] I don't use anything under the head but

[9:43] you're like this and see the position my

[9:46] legs are in so that's optimal this is

[9:51] okay but this does tilt the pelvis this

[9:54] way and does a little thing on the small

[9:55] of the back this is nicer for the back

[9:58] but this also works before you fall

[10:00] asleep that'll wake you up the other

[10:04] thing there's something called mudras

[10:05] I've gone into that why would i their

[10:08] positions the hands can be in and they

[10:11] mean various things but screw that for

[10:13] now basically when you do this let's see

[10:17] that one's wisdom that one's compassion

[10:19] no that one's compassion that one's

[10:22] wisdom isn't that important that the

[10:25] thumbs when you just have the thumbs

[10:28] touching this is the classic Buddhist

[10:30] mudra and usually you and then they did

[10:33] it but when you do this the elbows are

[10:35] at the side and this is right here on

[10:37] the belly the thumbs will come apart

[10:39] before the mind begins to sink and that

[10:42] can act as a feedback device to keep you

[10:47] awake if you really have a hard time

[10:49] sleeping you know Charles tart Charlie

[10:50] tart he coined the phrase altered states

[10:54] he works with near-death experiences and

[10:58] all sorts of other things he's really

[10:59] cool comes to retreats he's a friend and

[11:01] he read an article he shared with me I

[11:04] put it in my my my and my posture piece

[11:08] and you can get my posture piece online

[11:10] anywhere but he he found this in an

[11:12] article in 1928 or something when you're

[11:15] lying you have the hand like this and

[11:17] then the handle go before you go to

[11:20] sleep and

[11:21] the reason he works with that he works

[11:24] with that because he likes to work at

[11:26] the edge of consciousness with

[11:28] hypnagogic imagery which was Thomas

[11:32] Edison used to sleep in a chair some

[11:37] people say in a big metal dish other

[11:39] things people say there were two metal

[11:40] dishes beside him and he'd have metal

[11:43] ball bearings in his hand a big big ones

[11:46] and so when he began to fall asleep he

[11:49] dropped the metal and it would make a

[11:51] noise on the bottom of the thing and

[11:53] he'd wake up and that's when all his

[11:54] ideas came because you know you always

[11:56] get the ideas you're going to sleep

[11:57] right I mean I do other workshops on

[12:02] creativity and how to use mindfulness to

[12:03] give creativity but you know that

[12:06] working on the edge of that sleep there

[12:10] he wasn't doing that to stay conscious

[12:13] for meditation he was doing it to

[12:16] capture that moment doing conscious and

[12:18] unconscious for ideas to arrives just a

[12:22] little silly story but but this he works

[12:25] this this can also you can use that to

[12:28] meditate if you want I don't like it

[12:30] person I've tried it I'd rather do this

[12:34] I like being a little more grounded and

[12:36] you know going to that Center space but

[12:40] is that helpful

[12:42] play with that and let me know that's a

[12:44] sign though you should continue doing it

[12:47] to work through that because you

[12:50] probably have great sensitivity and a

[12:52] lot of sensory experience may open up to

[12:55] you your awareness may like leap open

[12:59] once you work through that in a way

[13:00] that's like and maybe overwhelming have

[13:03] a lot of input in but if you stay

[13:05] grounded with it it can be a great gift

[13:12] yeah my goal was my goal with that was

[13:26] for him you you could say a goal this

[13:30] practice is to be happy independent of

[13:32] conditions so no matter what your

[13:34] condition is you're good right so we're

[13:38] getting rid of suffering so my initial

[13:41] most important goal was we can go into

[13:44] what we think Korea's are and everyone's

[13:46] got a different idea and what causes

[13:48] koreas and what to do without to not get

[13:51] koreas and I can go into that and work

[13:54] with that kind of because the releasing

[13:56] of energy in the body is something I'm

[13:57] obviously very into but that was for me

[14:01] to help him it didn't matter if he had

[14:04] them or not that he could go as deep as

[14:09] he could go whether he was having a

[14:10] career or not didn't matter it's like

[14:13] some other people have pain they're

[14:15] gonna have pain it's not ever going away

[14:17] they and if they take something to help

[14:21] with the pain there'll be unconscious

[14:23] it's that level of pain so we can change

[14:27] our relationship to the pain so in a way

[14:30] for me with that particular one I told

[14:33] you about was we we dealt with ways we

[14:36] might work with the crias but my goal

[14:39] wasn't to get rid of them my goal was

[14:41] for him to not feel it ruined his

[14:44] meditation and so he could are you

[14:48] leaving - okay that's all right thank

[14:51] you I hope this was something was

[14:52] interesting here for you today cool and

[14:56] feel free to email me it's not your

[14:59] ordinary mindfulness alt Gmail I do

[15:01] check that one too if anything comes up

[15:03] one thing I want to say when we have

[15:05] longer meditations 150 minute meditation

[15:09] is more than twice as impactful as - 25

[15:14] minute meditation

[15:15] right because you're beginning of 25

[15:18] minutes at the depth of an end of

[15:20] another one so we did two long deep

[15:24] meditations today so that usually means

[15:28] what we have begun to put in motion is

[15:31] some deep work that happens below the

[15:33] threshold of consciousness and so you

[15:35] want to be kind to yourself for the rest

[15:38] of the day and this won't be the night

[15:40] to go see Game of Thrones or you know

[15:42] something violent you know it's not the

[15:46] time to to go see violent things to be

[15:50] kind and if and I should have told it to

[15:53] the other woman too especially when

[15:54] people leave playing oh that was

[15:55] wonderful I'm like okay just so you know

[15:57] you know how if you eat an Indian meal

[16:00] you know you might like an hour later

[16:03] burp and go oh curry right it's a burp

[16:06] right it's just a burp it's nothing

[16:08] wrong the meal was fine but the

[16:11] digestive process put up a bird as we go

[16:15] deep with this something deep down may

[16:18] have gotten that was under a rock may

[16:20] have come out and it might come up and

[16:22] up come up and out and you might be

[16:25] driving your car and you're feeling

[16:26] great and suddenly for a moment you feel

[16:27] like you want to cry that's not a

[16:29] particular well I could be crying

[16:31] because of this versus it just treat it

[16:33] like a burp and the way we worked with

[16:36] the emotions oh it's something moving

[16:38] just let it move up and out okay because

[16:40] if you go what is it then you've just

[16:42] put it down to make sure it'll do stuff

[16:45] again so so be kind and you might burp

[16:50] you don't hear that a lot do you oh do

[16:55] you oh good I bet and especially when

[17:02] when we first started working with

[17:04] massage when someone starts massaging

[17:06] the belly in the sobbing City here we go

[17:12] whoa you know you want someone who's

[17:15] used to going high it's gonna be sloppy

[17:16] yeah that's good yeah yeah because a lot

[17:19] of emotions in there what thank you for

[17:22] coming and I hope that was interesting

[17:24] okay bye yeah no violence and remember

[17:32] the burp

[17:33] those are my parting words to people

[17:43] you

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Stephanie Nash is a mindfulness coach who has worked with Shinzen Young for over 25 years, and a Yale-trained actress, teaching practical mindfulness for stress, anxiety and perfor…

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In a 2017 Q&A, Stephanie Nash described these sensations as a sign that a fixed ordering principle, the sense of up and down that shapes how we hold our experience, may be loosening. She linked it to proprioception and said the feeling is often temporary. Her advice was to avoid tightening against it.
Nash used kriyas to describe involuntary body movements such as spasms or twitching that can arise during stillness. She suggested working both with the open space around the body and with a still center she compared to the eye of a hurricane. The aim is to hold the movement within a wider awareness rather than force it to stop.
Nash compared it to being underwater, where the water supports you without effort. She described attention resting on a cushion of open, airy space around the body, while the hands and feet stay as grounding anchors. She said this can help when sensations become overwhelming.
Nash said that tightening against the feeling, or thinking that nobody wants to feel nausea, intensifies the unpleasantness. Her alternative was to relax around the sensation and let the breath move through open pockets of space. She described this approach as creating safety and equanimity.
Nash said Mindfulness-Based Stress Reduction often has participants lie down from the start, because people with pain frequently need to. She also noted that lying down can lead some people to fall asleep, so it is worth experimenting with posture and adjusting the position of the head and pelvis.
In the video, Nash used the phrase to describe emotional material that surfaces suddenly and then passes, like a burp. She reassured listeners that it is nothing to panic about and encouraged kindness toward oneself as it happens.

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