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Inspiration

Letting Go of What Keeps You Stuck: Lessons on Worry and Purpose

Mel Robbins
Mel Robbins
Oct 26, 2026
10 min read

From Mel Robbins

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Most advice about a stuck year arrives as a to-do list: set bigger goals, build better habits, add one more project to the pile. The conversation between Mel Robbins and Ed Mylett, published on The Mel Robbins Podcast in late October 2026, runs the other way. Mylett, a bestselling author and entrepreneur who is 55, makes the case that the most powerful move is subtraction. You make room for the life you want by letting go of what is keeping you stuck, and the people who are most stuck are often the ones who are most convinced they have to add something. Woven through the exchange are a few ideas that hold up well outside the studio: expectation shapes perception, helplessness loosens when you turn toward someone else, and an honest life audit asks what you can put down. What follows unpacks those ideas, the personal history that gives them weight, and why they can be practiced without waiting for any particular circumstance to change.

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Why does a grim story open a conversation about a better year?

The episode does not ease in. Robbins opens by asking Mylett about the moment that reshaped his thinking, and Mylett describes it plainly. He has not, he says, given an interview in almost two years, and he tells Robbins he has never spoken some of this aloud on a show before. He grew up with an alcoholic, drug-addicted father. The family was on welfare when they lived in Boston, and he knows, in his words, what it is like "to not feel good about yourself."

That candor is the foundation for everything after it. Mylett does not claim to have resolved his insecurity. He says that even now, on the drive to the recording, he asked himself why anyone would listen to him, and that he still struggles with "massive insecurity, self-confidence, all of those things." His point is that a decent life cannot depend on first eliminating those feelings, because if it did, he would never have one. The reframe is worth sitting with: your worth is not a prize you earn after the doubt disappears.

Robbins's opening remark sets the frame for the whole hour. Her highlight reel, she suggests, is not made of mistakes or betrayals. It is the fact that you are still standing after them. That is less a motivational slogan than a shift in what you count as evidence about yourself. A person who keeps score on their failures will keep finding failures. A person who notices they survived is looking at different data.

What does it mean to expect the next "one more" good thing?

Mylett's central claim is that you are "literally one decision away from changing your life." He insists this is not rhetoric. A new relationship, a new idea, a breakthrough: each is a single opportunity that arrives in a single moment. But he adds a hook. If you are not living in a way that expects those openings, you will walk past them.

"If you don't live a life expecting those one mors to show up, you're going to miss them. And all it is is a decision." (Ed Mylett, The Mel Robbins Podcast, around 2:12)

The mechanism he describes is attention. Expectation is not a wish that the universe will cooperate; it is a filter. Mylett says that if you expect something, your mind goes to work confirming that expectation. Morning by morning, you are either watching for the thing that would change your direction or you are scanning for proof that nothing will. Neither posture is neutral, and most people who feel stuck are running the second without noticing.

Crucially, Mylett does not require belief as the starting point. He tells listeners they do not have to believe a different future is coming yet. The first step is imagining it, and he makes a sharp observation about this: you are probably already imagining things now. They are just the wrong things, the ones that replay what went wrong and forecast it again. Reassigning that imaginative energy is a practical act, not a leap of faith. Ask what you have to lose by picturing a different version of yourself for a few minutes a day, and the answer is usually very little.

How can helping someone else pull you out of helplessness?

The most concrete piece of advice in the conversation is also the simplest. "When you feel the most helpless, attempt to become the most helpful." Mylett's instruction is to move your frame of reference off yourself, temporarily, and go serve someone in some quiet way. He is explicit that the service can be small. It can be a call to someone you have not spoken to in a long time, just to say you are thinking of them.

"Just somehow get out of self for a second." (Ed Mylett, The Mel Robbins Podcast, around 4:03)

He describes his own lowest period, when he would silently pray for a stranger walking past him on the street. The practice did something for him that he did not expect: it made him feel he had some value and worth. That detail matters. Helplessness is partly a story about your own irrelevance, and a small act that genuinely reaches another person is evidence against that story. You do not have to feel capable to act. You act, and the feeling of capability often follows.

This idea also connects to the episode's broader claim that your greatest struggles can become a source of purpose. Mylett's view, as the video's own description frames it, is that you are often most qualified to help the person you used to be. The anxious teenager, the person who felt broke, the one who did not know where the next payment would come from: those are the people who understand their situation from the inside.

What did a father's death reveal about what you actually own?

The turning point in Mylett's story is his father's death, and his account is spare and specific. He held his father's hand as he took his last breath. Walking into the house afterward, he realized that the man in the room was no longer really his father. "That was his body," he says. "I just knew there's more to us than our bodies." He does not prescribe a particular faith to make the point. He says simply that there is a spirit, a soul, an energy, and that whatever your beliefs, you are here for something.

"My dad's car was parked in the driveway. He didn't take any of those with him. You're not your possessions." (Ed Mylett, The Mel Robbins Podcast, around 5:06)

He then names what else his father left behind: his awards, which were literally in the room where he died, and his accolades, and what other people said about him. Then he names the thing that matters most in the argument. His father carried fears, problems, worries, and insecurities, and none of those went with him either. The implication is that you are not your worries any more than you are your car. You can begin to separate from them at any point. "You don't have to wait to the end like my dad did," Mylett says.

Mylett's aim is not to be morbid. He argues that people treat their current conditions as permanent. "Nothing's forever. This life isn't forever." That observation is a practical one. If the current arrangement is temporary, then the decision to imagine and dream differently is not frivolous. As he puts it, you are not going to take any of the stuff with you anyway.

How do you run a life audit without it becoming another project?

Robbins asks how the experience changed him, and Mylett's answer is almost the entire practical method of the episode. When a parent dies, he says, you realize you are next. He had only so much time left, so he audited his life. The questions he describes are simple: What matters to me? What is important? Who do I want to be when this is over?

Those three questions do the work of the "life audit" the episode promises. They are not about productivity. They separate what you value from what you have accumulated out of habit or fear. The answers tell you what to keep, and by implication, what to release. Mylett's stated intention on the show is to take away and pluck out of his life the things that no longer serve him. That is the audit in action: a clear decision about what stays and what goes.

Notice what the audit is not. It is not a list of new goals, and the episode is careful to say that going after big dreams is not a problem in itself. The question is which pursuits belong to the person you want to be, and which are inherited obligations or scoreboards you no longer believe in.

Why does worry keep its grip, and how do you loosen it?

Mylett calls himself a worrier, and Robbins laughs in recognition of a trait she plainly sees in him too. He is clear about where it comes from, and he is clear about what it costs. "I made bigger than they were," he says of the things he worried about. He spent much of his life withholding the peace that was always available to him. He kept telling himself that once he had enough money saved, or once the credit card debt was gone, he could finally relax.

"I kept moving the end zone all of the time." (Ed Mylett, The Mel Robbins Podcast)

This is the trap of deferred happiness. Every finish line you cross simply reveals a new one, so peace is always scheduled for later. Mylett's answer, after his father died, was to enjoy the gifts that are already around him. For him, those gifts turned out to be people, and simply looking into their eyes a little longer and telling them he loved them. He acknowledges that this may sound hokey. He is unembarrassed about it.

Practically, the episode suggests a few moves that follow from this. Notice when your mind is rehearsing a future you have not earned the right to dread yet. Ask whether the thing you are waiting for is actually the source of peace or just the next end zone. And redirect some of your attention to the present relationships and small moments that are already available. Mylett's worry is not presented as a flaw to be annihilated; it is something to see clearly enough that it stops making decisions for you.

Where to go from here

The conversation between Mel Robbins and Ed Mylett is most useful when you treat it as a set of practices rather than inspiration. Start with the life audit. Take a notebook and answer three questions in writing: What matters to me now? What am I carrying that I no longer believe in? Who do I want to be when this chapter is over? Let the answers, not the calendar, decide what to release.

Next, test the expectation idea for a week. Each morning, spend a few minutes imagining one specific, good thing that could happen that day, without requiring yourself to believe it yet. Notice what your attention does afterward. Then, once a day, practice the helplessness-to-helpfulness move: a call, a note, a quiet prayer for someone you pass. Small acts count, as Mylett insists.

Finally, pay attention to the end zone. When you catch yourself saying that peace will come once a condition is met, pause and look for one thing already present that you could enjoy now, the way Mylett learned to look into the eyes of the people he loves. The episode's underlying point is simple and demanding: you are not your worries, and you do not have to wait for the end of your life to start separating from them.

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[0:00] The highlight reel of your life is not

[0:02] your mistakes. It's not your setbacks.

[0:04] It's not who left. It's not who betrayed

[0:06] you. It's the fact that you're still

[0:08] standing after they did. [music] And

[0:10] that makes you incredible.

[0:11] >> Today on the Mel Robbins podcast, you

[0:13] know, Ed, this is the first interview

[0:16] that you've done in almost 2 years.

[0:18] >> What happened?

[0:19] >> I've never said this. It's pretty

[0:20] personal.

[0:26] [music]

[0:26] >> I'm going to get more clear on what I

[0:27] want. I'm going to take away and pluck

[0:29] out of my life the things that don't

[0:30] serve me anymore. You are literally one

[0:33] decision away from changing your life

[0:34] and it's not too late.

[0:35] >> The extraordinary Ed my

[0:48] such an honor to welcome you my dear

[0:51] friend Ed Milelet to the Mel Robbins

[0:54] podcast. I am so happy to be here. It is

[0:56] so good to see you. I love you and I'm

[0:59] so proud of all you've been doing.

[1:00] >> Oh, I am so excited to have you here

[1:04] because when I feel down, when I feel

[1:06] discouraged, when I overcomplicate my

[1:09] life,

[1:10] >> you're the person I turn to.

[1:11] >> Oh, wow. Thank you, Mel, so much. That

[1:13] means the world to me coming from you.

[1:14] >> Well, that's why I wanted you here

[1:16] because I feel like you have this

[1:19] magical ability to lift people up

[1:22] >> when they feel very low. And if the

[1:24] person who is listening right now feels

[1:27] like the best of their life is behind

[1:29] them

[1:30] >> or they just feel stuck and discouraged

[1:35] >> if they were to truly take to heart

[1:38] everything that you're about to share

[1:39] with us today from your remarkable life

[1:41] >> and the [clears throat] things that

[1:42] you've learned the hard way

[1:44] >> what could change? Well,

[1:45] >> I think everything can change. I'm a big

[1:47] believer and I know you are as well. you

[1:49] you are literally one decision away from

[1:51] changing your life. And that is not

[1:53] rhetoric to me in any way. You're one

[1:56] new relationship, one new idea, one

[1:58] breakthrough. You truly are one

[2:00] opportunity, one decision away. But

[2:03] here's the hook. If you don't live a

[2:05] life expecting those one mors to show

[2:07] up, you're going to miss them. And all

[2:10] it is is a decision. Hey, I'm going to

[2:12] get up expecting some good crap to

[2:13] happen. I'm going to get up expecting

[2:15] someone to come in that's going to make

[2:16] a shift. I'm going to get up maybe

[2:18] coming up with a new idea. I'm going to

[2:20] expect listening to this podcast today

[2:21] between Ed and Mel. I'm going to come up

[2:22] with a new idea, a new thought, a new

[2:24] perspective. If you expect it, your mind

[2:27] goes to work on confirming that belief.

[2:29] You have to say, you know what, the way

[2:32] I've been thinking, unfortunately, has

[2:34] got me where I'm at. What do I have to

[2:36] lose by just maybe just imagining a

[2:39] different You don't even have to believe

[2:41] it's going to happen yet. I didn't say

[2:42] believe it yet. We'll get to that later.

[2:44] It starts with imagining it. Here's the

[2:47] other thing I would say. You're probably

[2:49] already imagining things now. They're

[2:52] just not the things that serve you.

[2:53] >> So, give me some examples.

[2:54] >> Well, I can tell you like the way that I

[2:55] was raised with an alcoholic and a drug

[2:57] addict dad. And by the way, we're

[2:59] recording this in Boston. We were on

[3:01] welfare when we lived here in Boston as

[3:02] a little boy. So, I know what it I I I

[3:05] really kind of think I know what it's

[3:06] like to not feel good about yourself. To

[3:08] this day, at 55, walking in here today,

[3:11] I still struggle, which is amazing to I

[3:14] don't know I've ever said this on any

[3:15] show out loud. I still driving over

[3:18] here, I was like, why why would they

[3:20] listen to me?

[3:23] I I still struggle with massive

[3:26] insecurity, self-confidence, all of

[3:28] those things are things that I don't I

[3:29] don't know that I'm ever going to leave

[3:30] all of them. So, if that was a

[3:32] requirement to have a decent life, I

[3:34] would never have one. The one thing I

[3:36] would say, at least in my own life, cuz

[3:37] I have felt that way many times. Even

[3:39] recently, I felt that way. [snorts] When

[3:41] you feel the most helpless, attempt to

[3:43] become the most helpful. In other words,

[3:45] move your frame of reference off of

[3:47] yourself temporarily and do whatever you

[3:49] can to just go serve in some way in a

[3:51] quiet way. It can even be small. It can

[3:53] even be just calling someone out of the

[3:55] blue that you've not talked to in a long

[3:56] time and saying, "Hey, just want to

[3:57] remind you," which I do with you from

[3:58] time to time. I love you. I'm thinking

[4:01] about you. Just somehow get out of self

[4:03] for a second. And so when you feel

[4:05] helpless, get helpful. When I was at my

[4:07] lowest of my life, I remember thinking,

[4:08] I'm going to literally say a prayer for

[4:10] this person that's walking by me. Like

[4:12] literally on the street, just peace me

[4:14] with them. And it was it made me feel

[4:16] good about me. It's like I have some

[4:18] value, some worth. I got to tell you

[4:20] something. Maybe it's too much, but I

[4:23] was with my dad when he died, Mel.

[4:26] And uh I literally held my father's hand

[4:28] when he took his last breath. This is

[4:30] pretty personal, but we were in my dad's

[4:32] house, Mel. And um and I walked in there

[4:35] and immediately something dawned on me.

[4:39] Um that was my dad there, but it was not

[4:42] really my dad anymore. That was his

[4:44] body. Just I just knew there's more to

[4:47] us than our bodies. Whatever your faith

[4:49] beliefs are, but there's a there's a

[4:51] spirit to you. There's a soul. There's

[4:53] an energy. There's a frequency that you

[4:56] were put here to do something in your

[4:57] life that's great for a reason. You're

[4:59] supposed to be happy. You're supposed to

[5:01] get some of those dreams out of your

[5:03] life. You're supposed to have some

[5:04] memories. We were in my dad's house,

[5:06] Mel. My dad's car was parked in the

[5:09] driveway. He didn't take any of those

[5:11] with him. You're not your possessions.

[5:14] My dad had some awards literally in the

[5:16] room he passed away in. You're not your

[5:19] accolades or what other people think

[5:21] about you or say about you. He took none

[5:22] of that with him. But there's another

[5:24] thing my dad had when he died that he

[5:27] also didn't take with him. My dad had

[5:29] fears.

[5:31] problems,

[5:33] worries, insecurities, none of those

[5:36] went with them. So, you are not those

[5:39] things. Not only you're not your body or

[5:42] your possessions or what other people

[5:43] say about you, but you're not these

[5:45] worries. You're not these fears. You're

[5:47] not your insecurities. So, at any time,

[5:49] you can make a decision to begin to

[5:51] separate from them. You don't have to

[5:52] wait to the end like my dad did. And I

[5:54] say that to everybody because I think

[5:56] sometimes we think every condition we

[5:58] have is forever. Nothing's forever. This

[6:01] life isn't forever. So, why not begin to

[6:04] think a little bit differently? Why not

[6:06] to imagine and dream? Because you're not

[6:08] going to take any of that stuff with you

[6:09] anyway.

[6:10] >> How did that experience and revelation

[6:14] shift you?

[6:16] >> You know what occurs to you when when a

[6:17] parent passes away? You're next. I'm

[6:21] next. I've only got so much time here

[6:23] left. And so, what it did for me is it

[6:26] made me audit my life. What matters to

[6:28] me? what's important? Who do I want to

[6:31] be when this thing's over with? I know

[6:32] we're getting heavy early, but it did do

[6:36] that for me. And um but the biggie for

[6:39] me was I'm a worrier.

[6:41] >> I [laughter]

[6:41] >> People wouldn't know that about you, but

[6:43] it's so true.

[6:44] >> It's true. I worry. And um I I know

[6:46] where it comes from, too. But I I just

[6:48] think so many of the things I worried

[6:50] about in my life, I made bigger than

[6:52] they were. And I've spent so much of my

[6:54] life not giving myself the gift of peace

[6:56] that was always around me. M it was

[6:59] always around me and I thought man if I

[7:00] could once I get that I can be happy.

[7:02] Once I get that I won't worry anymore.

[7:04] Once I have enough money saved or once I

[7:06] remember thinking when I was so broke

[7:08] and all this money on credit cards is if

[7:09] I could just get these credit cards paid

[7:11] off. If I could just get the and I kept

[7:13] moving the end zone all of the time. And

[7:16] so when my dad died I literally decided

[7:19] I'm I'm I'm going to enjoy the gifts

[7:21] that are around me. And it turns out

[7:24] it's the people and just looking into

[7:27] their eyes a little bit longer, spending

[7:28] a little bit more time telling them I

[7:30] love them. And I know that may sound

[7:31] hokey, but it brings me great joy to do

[7:33] that in my life. Now, that's not that I

[7:35] don't think you should go for your big

[7:36] dreams, right? And have achievement and

[7:38] make a difference. This show makes a

[7:40] huge difference. I'd like to think my

[7:41] show makes a difference in people's

[7:42] lives, but I don't ever want to do that

[7:44] again at the expense of the people

[7:46] around me that are closest to me. And I

[7:48] know you feel that way, too. It was like

[7:49] just sometimes just there are blessings

[7:51] around us if we'll just acknowledge

[7:54] them. And I think sometimes we think

[7:57] well if I once I'm happy then I'll get

[7:58] that thing. What if it's the reverse?

[8:01] What is that if you could actually feel

[8:02] some of the emotions of gratefulness and

[8:04] gratitude and joy and bliss and peace

[8:07] now that the things you want will find

[8:11] you rather than you having to go get all

[8:14] these things thinking if you get them

[8:16] you'll get the emotion. You said a

[8:18] couple things that I want to make sure

[8:19] that I have you unpack because they're

[8:21] really important.

[8:22] >> Okay.

[8:22] >> And you know, I told you when we first

[8:25] started talking, I said, I think that as

[8:27] you're listening to this, you're going

[8:30] to have goosebumps because you're going

[8:32] to feel like this conversation

[8:35] at this exact moment is exactly what you

[8:39] needed to hear.

[8:40] >> And I already feel that way for

[8:41] [laughter] me personally. So, what you

[8:44] just said about your dad

[8:45] >> Oh.

[8:45] >> Um, cuz I do think a lot about time and

[8:48] how uh it's ticking.

[8:50] >> Yes.

[8:50] >> And that if you're not careful, you'll

[8:52] miss the things Yeah.

[8:54] >> that matter most cuz you were busy

[8:56] thinking you had more time.

[8:57] >> That's right.

[8:58] >> But you also said, you know, you had

[9:00] regrets around it.

[9:02] >> Mhm.

[9:02] >> But you then recalibrated. So could you

[9:05] explain why that's a powerful pivot when

[9:08] you are brave enough to see your regrets

[9:11] >> but then you use the regret to

[9:14] recalibrate how you move forward.

[9:16] >> There's two things that move you I found

[9:18] in this life it's one is like moving

[9:20] towards pleasure and dreams. The other

[9:21] one is moving away from pain

[9:23] >> and sometimes this pain can kind of be a

[9:25] gift in the sense that you know I like I

[9:27] don't I'm not a big uh drinker. I have a

[9:30] cocktail as you know but I'm not a big

[9:32] drinker. And one of the reasons I'm not

[9:33] is because of the pain of watching my

[9:35] father do too much of it. So some of

[9:37] these things actually that are brought

[9:39] into our life um can teach us a lesson.

[9:42] I'm a big believer that at any stage of

[9:44] your life, you have full permission to

[9:45] reit.

[9:47] And just ask yourself like, is this

[9:49] still my dream? Is this still what I

[9:51] want? Is this still serving me? I have

[9:53] an island. There was these two bald

[9:55] eagles on the island, Wilma and Fred,

[9:58] and they were there about 15 years

[9:59] before I bought it. I found Fred one day

[10:02] under a tree and he was struggling and I

[10:05] put some food out and he didn't come out

[10:07] for he finally came out and I thought

[10:08] something's wrong. I don't know bald

[10:09] eagles very well but something's wrong.

[10:11] We called the bird sanctuary and uh

[10:14] about 2 days later they had to

[10:17] >> put him down and and uh he went to

[10:18] heaven and afterwards the lady from the

[10:21] bird sanctuary came out and she said

[10:22] just so you know Wilma will go soon.

[10:25] >> Usually when they lose their mate

[10:28] they'll go soon. About five weeks later,

[10:30] I'm taking a walk and I'm hearing this

[10:32] banging against the rocks like a

[10:33] woodpecker. She's plucking all the

[10:35] feathers off of her that no longer serve

[10:37] her.

[10:38] >> Oh my god.

[10:39] >> And sure enough, she ended up coming

[10:42] back about 6 months later. All of these

[10:44] feathers were back. She ended up finding

[10:46] a new mate. She's had three babies. They

[10:48] lived there on the island. She's remade

[10:50] her life. The lesson is sometimes in

[10:52] life, it's not about adding a bunch more

[10:53] stuff. It's the reverse. It's about

[10:56] reoditing and saying, "I'm going to get

[10:57] more clear on what I want. I'm going to

[10:59] take away and pluck out of my life the

[11:01] things that don't serve me anymore, the

[11:03] beliefs that don't serve me. Maybe some

[11:05] of the relationships that are toxic that

[11:07] don't serve me anymore, the environments

[11:08] that I'm in. And when you begin to take

[11:10] away things, a whole new you emerges and

[11:13] you get a new life." And that's what

[11:14] happened to Wilma. And that's sort of

[11:16] what happened when my dad passed.

[11:18] >> How long ago did your dad pass?

[11:20] >> Three years. Three and a half.

[11:21] >> And you said you did an audit. Mhm.

[11:24] >> So, is there a specific way that the

[11:26] person listening can take audit of their

[11:28] life?

[11:29] >> Simple. I actually wrote down the things

[11:30] that I thought I wanted in my life. I

[11:32] made a list of the things that I wanted

[11:33] in my life and I actually literally

[11:34] ranked them on what juiced me anymore

[11:36] and that when life was over, which one

[11:38] of these am I going to? And I got to the

[11:39] point where I'm here's my new thing in

[11:41] my life. [snorts] What do I want to

[11:42] leave here?

[11:44] And for me, what I want to leave here is

[11:46] I want to leave here great memories with

[11:48] my family, great dreams with my family,

[11:51] far deeper relationships with my

[11:53] friends, and I also want to leave here

[11:55] feeling like, you know, I used to say,

[11:57] max out your life, get everything. And

[12:00] to me, that meant climbing. To me, now

[12:02] the the biggest commodity in my life is

[12:04] people and time. And so, I made a list

[12:06] of the things. And I found to myself

[12:08] that a lot of the things that I wrote

[12:10] down didn't juice me anymore. And then

[12:12] what I did, here's the biggie. I wrote

[12:13] down what I was afraid of

[12:15] >> because although I don't maybe people

[12:17] might not think this, I'm loaded with

[12:19] fears, loaded with worries, loaded with

[12:22] anxiety. And so I wrote those things

[12:24] down and I began to ask myself how real

[12:26] were they? And once I wrote them down,

[12:28] they lost a lot of their power over me.

[12:30] I became really aware of how silly most

[12:33] of these things were that I were was

[12:34] worried about. Simply by writing them

[12:36] down, getting them out of my mind and

[12:38] onto a sheet of paper tactically is what

[12:40] I did different. I'm like, "That's

[12:41] hilarious. That one's dumb. That one's

[12:43] valid. That one's maybe. Maybe that one.

[12:46] This one's never going to happen, dumb

[12:48] dumb, you've been carrying this one

[12:49] forever, writing them down almost like

[12:52] they're they were thoughts I had. They

[12:54] were not me once I put them on the

[12:55] paper."

[12:56] >> You know, Ed, this is the first

[12:58] interview that you've done in almost two

[13:00] years.

[13:02] >> And you have millions of people that

[13:04] follow you online, millions of people

[13:05] that listen to your podcast and have for

[13:07] 10 years. Um

[13:10] what happened?

[13:12] >> Uh well the big thing that happened I

[13:15] had two what I would call we'll call

[13:16] them cardiac events. Um and uh that was

[13:23] God awakening me like shake like okay

[13:25] you're not going to hear what I'm

[13:26] telling you. You're not going to slow

[13:27] down. We're going to physically slow you

[13:29] down. But the other part of it Mel

[13:31] honestly was that uh during that exact

[13:33] same time though I was already

[13:34] evaluating what do I really want

[13:36] anymore? We had dinner the other night

[13:37] and I'm like gosh I say yes to a lot of

[13:40] dinner and then it's the night of the

[13:41] dinner and you're like we I wouldn't be

[13:43] brokenhearted if they canceled. You know

[13:45] what I'm saying? Like there's so many

[13:46] things in my life that this I really am

[13:49] on this thing now where I don't think

[13:51] success is about adding more. People are

[13:53] tired. They're tired. They're fatigued.

[13:56] And what I'm saying is I don't think

[13:58] it's adding a bunch of stuff. I think

[14:00] it's making room for stuff.

[14:03] >> What's the difference?

[14:04] >> The difference is cleaning out your

[14:06] closet. We just moved and we had to

[14:07] clean I had to clean out my closet. I

[14:08] had all this stuff in my closet was

[14:10] loaded with all this stuff. Like 90% of

[14:12] the stuff I don't wear is weird is

[14:15] outdated. I'm keeping it around cuz it's

[14:17] going to come back someday. And once I

[14:20] like took all this stuff and it was very

[14:22] hard. I'm practically a hoarder. all

[14:23] this stuff out of I have like tennis

[14:25] shoes like 15 years old, very malodorous

[14:29] tennis shoes I'm never going to wear

[14:31] again but somehow if I lose the pair

[14:33] I've got I'm going to wear like it was

[14:34] silly and I got rid of a lot of it. I'm

[14:36] like wow first off this closet's way

[14:38] bigger than I remember it being and

[14:40] there's room now in my closet to add one

[14:43] or two things that are quite

[14:46] good-looking that I would actually wear.

[14:48] Once you start to eliminate thoughts

[14:50] that don't serve you, maybe a couple

[14:52] people, some relationships, maybe it's a

[14:54] habit or two you have. When you remove

[14:57] them, now you've created some space. Oh,

[14:59] now I can add one or two things that do

[15:02] serve me. So that was sort of the

[15:04] process for me. It also gives you some

[15:06] clarity like what matters now there's

[15:08] this space in my life to think and

[15:11] breathe and that and then by the way I

[15:13] know a lot of people like man I got to

[15:14] pay this bill. I've got this thing. I've

[15:16] got my kids to soccer. I've got my

[15:17] grandkids over here. I've got this. I

[15:19] 100% do that. That's why you got to

[15:22] fight even harder for clarity and space.

[15:24] >> And a lot of it, a lot of it is probably

[15:27] thoughts that ruminate in your mind that

[15:31] you have picked up that do not bring you

[15:33] peace. They bring you chaos, stress, and

[15:36] tension in your life. And it's giving

[15:38] yourself the gift of some spring

[15:40] cleaning of the closet of your mind. And

[15:42] most of this you're not going to take

[15:44] with you anyway. So evaluate it, audit

[15:47] it, give yourself, you can literally

[15:49] start a life over at any point you want.

[15:52] Even in the worst time, Wilma started

[15:55] her life over when it all was going

[15:57] away. She lost her home. She had lost

[16:00] the man of her dream. She had lost her

[16:01] life. It was almost over. And she went,

[16:03] "You know what? I'm going to create some

[16:05] space. I'm going to get rid of these

[16:06] feathers that don't serve me anymore."

[16:08] And I think it's such a crazy metaphor,

[16:10] but it literally allowed her to soar and

[16:12] to fly again in her life. It wasn't

[16:13] adding stuff. it was eliminating stuff.

[16:16] >> What I love about what you're sharing

[16:19] about the recent

[16:22] revelations that you've had

[16:24] >> is that there is so much that takes up

[16:27] space in your mind and in your life that

[16:31] actually isn't helpful.

[16:33] >> Yeah.

[16:33] >> And isn't important to you.

[16:35] >> Amen. That's right.

[16:37] >> So, if you were a huge worrier

[16:40] and still are,

[16:41] >> oh, I can help all the worriers.

[16:43] [laughter] So for the worrier that's

[16:45] listening that isn't even aware

[16:48] >> of how much space worrying

[16:52] >> is taking up.

[16:53] >> You mentioned that you have a sense of

[16:55] peace that you haven't had before.

[16:56] >> Yeah.

[16:57] >> What's the first thing that you could do

[17:00] >> if you're lost in your mind? You're

[17:02] behind enemy lines.

[17:03] >> I think the reason that I worry is my

[17:05] dad worried. And let me tell you the

[17:07] biggest reason why I stopped. I think

[17:10] with children things are caught not

[17:12] taught.

[17:14] I caught that from my old man and I

[17:17] decided once I had my cardiac events

[17:20] that um I no longer wanted my children

[17:22] to catch this from me. I think very few

[17:24] people will make changes for themselves.

[17:25] But they'll make big changes for the

[17:27] people that they love. And this way

[17:29] you're being this worrying you're doing

[17:31] this ruminating of thoughts that don't

[17:33] serve you. Just so you know, it doesn't

[17:35] just affect you. It's affecting your

[17:38] children. It's affecting your spouse.

[17:40] It's affecting everybody around you.

[17:42] There's a frequency to those thoughts

[17:43] and it's reducing the frequency. See, my

[17:46] dad's drinking. There was a lot of

[17:47] things wrong with my dad's drinking.

[17:49] Obviously, there's abuse that comes with

[17:50] it. But, you know, the number one thing,

[17:52] I told my dad this once he got sober. I

[17:54] used to worry about my dad.

[17:57] >> I'd worry about him. Is he going to come

[17:58] home? Is he going to be in a car

[18:00] accident? Are mom and dad going to get

[18:02] divorced? Is dad going to hurt himself?

[18:03] Is dad going to hurt anybody? So, from

[18:05] the age of a little boy, I learned to

[18:07] worry about my dad. Those of you that

[18:10] are worrying, okay, not only is it

[18:12] affecting you, it's affecting everybody

[18:14] around you. This is picked up. It is

[18:16] caught. It's not taught. And you can't

[18:18] hide it. And so, [snorts] the first

[18:20] thing I would tell you is if you won't

[18:21] do this for yourself, you need to do it

[18:22] for the people that are around you. And

[18:24] the the technique to stop worrying is to

[18:27] actually look back on your life and

[18:28] realize that 99% of the things you

[18:30] worried about never came to fruition,

[18:32] were never as bad as you did. Worrying

[18:35] allows you to live through an event

[18:36] multiple times. that even if it happened

[18:39] should only happen to you once. So even

[18:41] the 5% or 1% of the things I worried

[18:43] about Mel that actually did happen which

[18:46] I'm pretty sure I created them by

[18:48] worrying about them all of the time. I

[18:50] actually lived through them hundreds of

[18:52] times instead of the one time I had to.

[18:55] So I lived through it over and over and

[18:57] over again and then it happened and then

[18:58] I lived through it again. I used to

[19:00] think if I just worry about this enough

[19:02] it won't happen or when I get there I'll

[19:04] be prepared. Turns out that's not true.

[19:06] If crap's going to hit the fan, crap is

[19:08] hitting the fan. But I lived the bad

[19:10] events of my life hundreds of times as

[19:13] opposed to just the one time when it

[19:14] actually happened. So, not only did most

[19:16] of the stuff I worried about never

[19:17] happened, but when it did happen, it was

[19:20] hundreds of times my body, my spirit, my

[19:22] heart. Do you think it's by coincidence

[19:26] that this guy who worries all the time,

[19:28] who carries all this insecurities heart

[19:31] broke down in his early 50s? My heart

[19:35] broke down. I physically think my heart

[19:38] just could not take any more stress.

[19:42] Right when I wake up, first question I

[19:44] ask myself, what do I need to worry

[19:45] about today? What do I got to get done?

[19:47] What's what could what could go wrong

[19:49] today? This is someone who millions of

[19:51] people listen to better lives. But if

[19:54] I'm being honest, I was always moving

[19:57] away trying to get away from these

[19:59] worries. And I'm really happy to tell

[20:01] everybody that that can change and has

[20:03] changed for me. I I worry from time to

[20:05] time. That guy rears his head every once

[20:07] in a while, but I know to slap him back

[20:09] now pretty good by feeding him the

[20:11] thoughts that do serve him and writing

[20:13] down the ones that are silly and they

[20:15] lose their power over me.

[20:16] >> That's the tool.

[20:16] >> Yep. That's my tool.

[20:17] >> Like if you could literally go back in

[20:18] time and say, "Hey, dummy."

[20:19] >> Write it down.

[20:20] >> Just write down all this stuff in your

[20:22] head and you're going to see in the

[20:24] piece of paper how stupid half this

[20:26] stuff is.

[20:27] >> Um, not half, 98%.

[20:30] >> 98% in my case, 98%. I'm a professional

[20:33] worrier. Well, the best piece the best

[20:35] thing about this advice is it's free.

[20:36] You take out a piece of paper. Just

[20:38] write all the stuff keeping you awake at

[20:40] night. Notice how dumb half of it is.

[20:42] And then do you write down the things

[20:44] you want to believe?

[20:45] >> I do. I write down the things that I

[20:46] want to believe. Which which for me is I

[20:49] Well, Can I show you a prop on it? Sure.

[20:51] >> Okay. The number one way that I think

[20:52] you can shift yourself is that you have

[20:54] a in a thing inside of you called your

[20:56] identity.

[20:57] >> Okay.

[20:57] >> Okay. So, when I use that term God, you

[21:00] kind of weave in whatever your beliefs

[21:02] are. I believe next to God, the most

[21:04] powerful force in the world is to be

[21:06] consistent with the way you view you. So

[21:09] your identity is like your thoughts,

[21:10] beliefs, self-concept, etc. Here's what

[21:13] I found out about at least me.

[21:14] >> Okay.

[21:15] >> Okay. If that thing is set at 75°, like

[21:17] we're in the studio, it's probably about

[21:18] 75 in here right now.

[21:20] >> What externally what's going on does not

[21:23] dictate the temperature in here.

[21:25] >> This place is set at 75°. The external

[21:27] does not matter. I think it's probably

[21:29] about 85 degrees here today while while

[21:31] we're doing this. Oh, outside the

[21:32] studios.

[21:32] >> Yeah. Okay.

[21:33] >> Yeah. So, outside outside the studio,

[21:35] let's say it's 85°. That does not affect

[21:37] the temperature in here. Cuz what

[21:38] happens when the external happens? This

[21:40] thing turns the thermostat on, kicks the

[21:42] air conditioning on, and regulates it

[21:43] back to what it's set at. Okay? That's

[21:46] our lives. You have multiple thermostat

[21:50] settings in your life. You have one for

[21:51] love. You have one for peace. You have

[21:54] one for money. You have one for fitness.

[21:56] And whatever that thermostat setting is,

[21:58] that identity you have, you'll do

[22:00] everything in your power subconsciously

[22:02] and unconsciously to get your thermostat

[22:04] of your life back to that setting. So

[22:06] that's why so many times in life, you'll

[22:08] see people, they do pick up a new habit,

[22:09] they got a new tip on the show, they've

[22:11] listened to something, but if they're at

[22:13] 75 degrees, let's just say, of mental

[22:16] health,

[22:16] >> okay,

[22:17] >> that I'm going set at 75, and all of a

[22:18] sudden, man, I'm feeling some peace, I'm

[22:19] feeling some joy, I'm at 85, I'm at 90,

[22:21] I'm at 100, things are going great. If

[22:23] you don't change what you believe you're

[22:25] worth, if you don't adjust that

[22:27] thermostat setting to that 85 or 90,

[22:29] over time you will turn the air

[22:30] conditioner on of your life

[22:32] >> and you'll cool it back down to what you

[22:34] believe you deserve to get.

[22:36] >> There's one lead character in this

[22:37] sucker. You And if your thermostat

[22:40] setting of happiness is 75°, you can

[22:42] change all the external conditions you

[22:44] want. You're going to be at 75°. You

[22:46] will turn the air. By the way, you'll

[22:48] also turn the heater on if it gets

[22:49] really, really bad. You probably won't

[22:50] starve. you'll turn the heater on and

[22:52] get it back up to 75°. The key is

[22:55] adjusting what you believe you're worth,

[22:58] what you deserve in life. If you don't

[23:00] change these thermostat settings, it's

[23:01] everything. It's the governor. So, the

[23:03] reason I had my worried all the time, I

[23:05] got about a 50°ree peace thermostat most

[23:07] of my life. So, of course, no matter how

[23:08] good my life got, no matter what was

[23:10] going great, I'll find a way to get my

[23:13] stress. I'll find a way to get my worry.

[23:15] We all have like five, six emotions that

[23:18] are our dominant emotions.

[23:19] >> What are they? Well, there's different

[23:20] for each people. So, for me, I think my

[23:22] primary uh emotions are stress,

[23:26] worry, anxiety. Those were my dominant

[23:30] ones. And when I was younger, anger

[23:33] and so no matter what happened in a

[23:34] given week, I'll find, by the way, these

[23:36] emotions when we have them, even if they

[23:38] don't serve us, we're going to get them.

[23:39] Why? They're familiar. Our brains and

[23:42] our minds want to constantly move to

[23:44] what's familiar because it conserves

[23:46] energy. So the key thing for me in my

[23:48] life is I'm going to stop worrying about

[23:49] getting stuff.

[23:52] What are the things I want in my life to

[23:54] feel?

[23:56] >> I want to feel more peace. I want to

[23:59] feel more ecstasy, joy, bliss. I want to

[24:03] have more optimism in my life, abundance

[24:05] in my life. And I've made those my

[24:08] intentions.

[24:10] And over time, I shifted what my lens

[24:13] delivers to me. And so now my lens

[24:16] doesn't always deliver to me the

[24:18] familiar. I used to brag, I'm amazing

[24:20] under stress, man. You watch me under

[24:22] stress, I'll function. And at one point

[24:24] my wife goes, "Do you think that's

[24:25] because you constantly find a way to

[24:27] bring it into your life? No matter how

[24:28] good is doing, you got to find a way to

[24:30] get I was like, gosh, you know, you're

[24:32] really right. So these emotions that may

[24:34] be familiar don't serve us." Here's the

[24:36] good news. Your past doesn't equal your

[24:37] future. Writing down the emotions you

[24:40] want and the ones that you're most

[24:41] familiar with is really an incredible

[24:44] process in your life. You know, we

[24:45] haven't talked about this,

[24:47] >> but I had a very similar revelation

[24:51] where if I were to list the dominant

[24:54] emotions that I would feel any week, I

[24:56] would say this would be in my late 40s,

[24:58] like peak misery, it would be anger and

[25:01] frustration, anxiety, fear, jealousy,

[25:06] and

[25:09] I kind of need six because there was a

[25:10] lot of insecurity in there, but there

[25:12] was also this sense of I'm in it alone.

[25:15] like kind of that like I'm the I'm on

[25:18] the outside. I have to do this on my

[25:20] own. Nobody like there like it's all on

[25:22] me.

[25:23] >> How'd you change it?

[25:24] >> I you said that you either move toward

[25:28] the positive or you move away from the

[25:30] negative. If I use your thermostat

[25:33] example, which I'm just learning for the

[25:35] first time,

[25:37] what I would say is I got tired of

[25:40] freezing

[25:43] >> because I said to I don't want to be

[25:45] this person.

[25:46] >> Mhm. [clears throat]

[25:47] >> And I'm not stuck as this version of

[25:49] myself, but there is absolutely nobody

[25:51] that's going to do this for me and

[25:52] there's nobody stopping me from changing

[25:54] either. And so I love the analogy of the

[25:57] thermostat because if you realize that

[25:59] you're freezing in your life,

[26:01] >> Yeah.

[26:01] using this imagination to dial it up and

[26:05] then asking yourself if I'm at a 75 or

[26:07] an 80 or 90, what what are those

[26:09] emotions that I'm going to feel?

[26:12] >> And you could start there. And I think

[26:14] it's it goes back to also one of the

[26:15] things that you said that if you feel

[26:16] stuck or helpless in your life, go help

[26:19] somebody else. Yes.

[26:20] >> Because just the act of helping somebody

[26:22] else, opening a door, smiling, saying a

[26:24] silent prayer, whatever it may be,

[26:26] volunteering in your community, it gives

[26:29] you hope.

[26:30] >> Yes. that there's something more for

[26:32] you.

[26:32] >> Yes.

[26:33] >> And that's a very that's like the dial

[26:35] going up and showing you

[26:37] >> that something else is possible.

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[27:40] >> You know, I'm curious, Ed, you talked

[27:42] about your dad's sobriety.

[27:44] >> Um, you also write about it in your

[27:46] number one blockbuster, The Power of One

[27:49] More.

[27:50] >> How did that impact you, your dad

[27:53] getting sober? Uh, I I think when you

[27:56] grow up with any dysfunction, divorce,

[27:58] stress in your home, yelling, drugs,

[28:00] alcohol, which I had the combo. Um, not

[28:02] the divorce. My parents stayed married.

[28:05] You carry a little piece of it with you

[28:06] all your life. I'm driving to a little

[28:08] league game. My dad, who was an

[28:10] aggressive, I would even say I think I

[28:11] can say in my father's honor because he

[28:13] came a beautiful, wonderful man in

[28:15] sobriety. My father was I would even

[28:16] call him violent. And we're driving to a

[28:19] little league game. I'll never forget

[28:20] it, Mel. And my dad's crying driving the

[28:22] car. I'm looking at my dad like, "What

[28:24] the heck? What's going on here?" Pulls

[28:26] the car over. He's still tearing up and

[28:28] crying and not looking at me. And then

[28:30] he turns to me when he says one more.

[28:32] It's why and it always stayed with me.

[28:34] He goes, "Eddie," I said, "Yeah, daddy."

[28:36] He goes, "Uh, I'm going to try to get

[28:38] sober one more time."

[28:41] And he looks at me. I said, "You are?"

[28:44] He goes, "Yeah, son." And I said, "Dad,

[28:47] why would this be any different than the

[28:49] other times? you've tried a lot of

[28:51] times. And he goes, "Well, Eddie, I

[28:53] think sometimes in life, you got to give

[28:55] everything one more try." I think it's a

[28:58] huge lesson. Just because it hasn't

[29:00] happened before, you're one try away.

[29:03] And then he goes, I think this is a key

[29:05] to life. He goes, Eddie, he never said

[29:07] this before this day, Mel. He goes, I

[29:10] love you and you deserve a dad you can

[29:13] be proud of. That's why I'm going to try

[29:16] harder this time. What my dad did is he

[29:19] linked his love for me and my sisters

[29:22] and my mom to making this change in this

[29:25] decision. And I'm a believer that love

[29:28] is the most powerful of all emotions. It

[29:30] overrides fear. It overrides anxiety. It

[29:33] overrides stress. It overrides worry. If

[29:36] you want to make one of these changes in

[29:37] your life, you've got to link it to your

[29:39] love of someone else that you care

[29:42] about, your love for yourself or your

[29:44] love of God. And you link that. And if

[29:46] you could truly make that connection, it

[29:48] will be bigger than your fear. But if

[29:50] you don't link it to something bigger

[29:52] than that fear, bigger than that worry,

[29:54] bigger than that I'm not good enough,

[29:55] what are people going to think about me?

[29:56] What are they going to say? I'm probably

[29:58] going to fail again. I've always been

[29:59] average. I've always been ordinary.

[30:01] That's just who I am. If you don't link

[30:03] it to something bigger than that

[30:04] emotion, it's probably not going to

[30:06] happen. My dad finally anchored it to

[30:09] the love of his family. And that love,

[30:11] thank God, was greater than that

[30:13] addiction. was greater than that desire

[30:16] to go do something that didn't serve

[30:18] him. But the crazy part, when my dad got

[30:20] sober, he came back from rehab. He

[30:23] looked good. I went, "Dad, are you never

[30:25] going to drink again?" And he says to

[30:27] me, I'll never forget it, Mel. He goes,

[30:29] "I can't promise you that, son." And I

[30:32] remember feeling disappointed. He goes,

[30:33] "But Eddie, here's what I can tell you.

[30:35] I'm not going to drink for one more day

[30:38] at a time." And my dad stacked up those

[30:41] one more days the rest of his life.

[30:43] Never had another drink, never used

[30:45] another drug. Why does that matter? You

[30:47] don't have to make huge big decisions.

[30:50] You just got to decide for today. My dad

[30:53] every day made this decision. I'm not

[30:56] going to drink. I love my family more

[30:58] than I want to drink. It doesn't have to

[30:59] be this huge monumental thing. It's just

[31:02] today. It's just today. When my dad

[31:05] died, um I woke up in the middle of the

[31:07] night one night crying. Surprised me.

[31:10] And my wife's like, "What's going on?

[31:12] It's the fog of the night." And I'm

[31:13] like, "Someone helped daddy." She's

[31:14] like, "What are you saying?" And I said,

[31:16] "I just I can't believe I never dawned

[31:18] on me before." I'm like 52 years old. I

[31:20] go, "My dad didn't get sober alone.

[31:23] Someone helped my dad." And by the way,

[31:25] the night my dad got sober, he was going

[31:26] to take his life. I remember we were at

[31:29] the church, the police were looking to

[31:30] find my father. He was going to kill

[31:31] himself that night. And I said, "Someone

[31:34] intervened and helped my dad. They

[31:36] changed our whole family. They saved my

[31:38] dad's life. They saved our whole family.

[31:40] I'm probably kind of a speaker and a

[31:42] coach because of this person. They don't

[31:44] probably know I'm his son. The ripple

[31:46] effect of helping one human, my dad. I

[31:51] got to find him. And I found him. I

[31:54] found the guy. I can't tell you

[31:56] everything about him because there's

[31:57] it's an anonymous program my dad was in,

[31:58] but God's got a funny sense of humor. H

[32:00] humor. My name's Ed. Not a cool name. My

[32:03] dad's name's Edward. Not a cool name. My

[32:05] grandfather was Edward. This dude's name

[32:08] Ed.

[32:09] God's just up there laughing at all of

[32:11] us, right? That's not the coolest part

[32:13] of the story, Mel. Here's here's the

[32:14] cool part. What qualified this man to

[32:16] help my dad? What were his

[32:18] qualifications? You think he was a

[32:20] perfect resume, never sinned, never made

[32:23] a mistake?

[32:25] No. You know what his qualifications

[32:28] were? He was also a drunk. He had also

[32:31] been a drug addict. He had also been a

[32:33] liar. He also lived in the shadows. He

[32:36] had also carried shame. the majority of

[32:39] his life. The reason that that qualified

[32:42] him is you're most qualified in life to

[32:44] help the person you used to be.

[32:47] We think in life that our biggest

[32:49] setbacks, our biggest mistakes, our

[32:51] divorce, our financial mistake, heck, it

[32:55] may not even be any of that. We just

[32:56] think we're disqualified because we've

[32:58] always been average. We've always been

[33:00] invisible.

[33:03] And nothing could be further from the

[33:05] truth. Those are the very things that

[33:07] qualify you to help somebody else. And

[33:09] living a great life may not be on

[33:11] Instagram or having your own show or

[33:13] having an island or a jet. It might be

[33:15] like in a really quiet moment when no

[33:17] one's watching. You're helpful. That

[33:20] man, by the way, was only sober 31 days

[33:24] the day that he helped my dad. So, you

[33:26] don't have to have it all figured out.

[33:28] You don't have to have a whole big old

[33:29] plan. You don't have to know every

[33:31] single step. There's 12 steps in that

[33:33] program. This dude didn't even know what

[33:34] the fifth step was cuz he hadn't done it

[33:36] yet himself. You don't have to have it

[33:38] all figured out. What you have to have

[33:40] is a heart that says I want to help

[33:41] people and I'm not disqualified because

[33:44] of my mistakes or my setbacks or my

[33:46] failures. In fact, those are the very

[33:47] things that do qualify me. My dad went

[33:50] on to help about 4,000 people get sober

[33:52] himself because you're most qualified to

[33:53] help those you used to be. You start to

[33:55] look at your life very differently. What

[33:57] if all of this stuff has happened to

[34:00] literally prepare me for this decision

[34:03] I'm about to make to change my life?

[34:05] That I'm not going to hide from my

[34:06] failures or my screw-ups or my averess

[34:09] or my invisibility. It's actually what

[34:11] qualifies me the most to do something

[34:13] great in my life. And that's to help

[34:15] other people. And that's what you were

[34:16] born to do. It's the greatest lesson of

[34:18] my life is watching this Ed help my

[34:20] precious Ed so that I'm actually here

[34:22] today with you hopefully helping one

[34:23] person as well. That's the ripple

[34:25] effect. It is my most favorite thing

[34:27] that you say

[34:28] >> by far.

[34:29] >> You're [clears throat]

[34:30] most qualified to help the person you

[34:32] used to be.

[34:32] >> It's true.

[34:33] >> For the person who's listening that

[34:35] still is having trouble kind of

[34:38] believing that, what would you say to

[34:39] them? [gasps]

[34:41] >> That's the That's the biggest question

[34:42] in the world. I um I I will flip it on

[34:45] you. Then why else are you here?

[34:48] Then why else are you here? There's a

[34:50] reason that you're here. I'm I'm really

[34:52] good at this because I've screwed up so

[34:55] many things in my life. I'm immensely

[34:57] qualified. You want to talk about worry

[34:58] and screw up, I can do that. You want to

[34:59] talk about screwing up financially, we

[35:01] can do that. You want to talk about

[35:02] being a jerk, I'm qualified for that

[35:03] one, too. Like I can anger, whatever you

[35:05] want. Pick a topic. I'm pretty much I've

[35:07] messed it up. You know, the truth is

[35:09] those times in your life where you have

[35:10] helped someone or you did encourage

[35:12] somebody. You feel so good about

[35:14] yourself. You feel at home. you you

[35:17] can't worry, fear, or stress in the

[35:19] moments when you've made a difference

[35:21] for somebody else. So, you've already

[35:23] done this in your life and you're a good

[35:25] person and you don't give yourself

[35:27] enough credit for being a good person. I

[35:29] I'll tell you a quick thing. My mentor

[35:31] in my life was Wayne Dyer. If you don't

[35:33] know who he is, my friend listening to

[35:35] this, you should go look him up. But I'm

[35:37] running on a beach in Hawaii. I'm 30 and

[35:39] I'm kind of like doing okay in life. And

[35:42] I'm running down this beach. It's like

[35:43] 6:00 a.m. This guy's got no shirt on.

[35:45] He's running towards me. It's a bald

[35:46] guy, but he's got a hairy back. And I'm

[35:48] like, "Oh, I'm going to have to bump

[35:49] into this dude." And [snorts] I I avoid

[35:51] him and he runs by me and I'm like, "Oh

[35:53] my gosh, that was Wayne Dyer." Wayne

[35:56] Dyer would be like Mel Robbins right

[35:57] now. Right.

[35:58] >> That's not true. Wayne Dyer, are you

[36:00] kidding? Is like a legend. Didn't his

[36:02] What? His book sold like 40 million

[36:04] copies or something. Was it What is his

[36:06] book called?

[36:07] >> Yeah, the Let them Theory, I think. Um,

[36:09] but anyway, pretty much pretty much Mel

[36:11] Robbins right now. So anyway, so he runs

[36:13] right I think you just described you. So

[36:16] he runs right by me.

[36:17] >> I don't have a hairy back.

[36:19] >> You do not have

[36:19] >> I just waxed. That's why.

[36:21] >> Love it. [laughter] So he he I we're

[36:24] wearing Sony Walkman. That's how long

[36:26] ago it was. And I take my Walkman off

[36:28] and I go, "Dr. Dyer." And he stops and

[36:30] he turns around. He's got his

[36:31] headphones. He goes, "Yeah." I go, "You

[36:33] changed my life." And he goes, "I doubt

[36:36] that. I bet you changed your life, but

[36:39] how did I help?" That's what he said.

[36:42] And he walked towards me and we sat on

[36:44] the beach. Can you imagine this? And we

[36:46] watched the sun come up together. But

[36:48] here's the lesson from the conversation.

[36:50] At the end of it, he goes, "Ed, you're

[36:52] going to live a great life. In fact, I

[36:55] think you're going to change the world."

[36:57] Now, at the time, I'm thinking he has

[36:59] definitely never said this to anybody

[37:00] [laughter] else. Looking back, he may

[37:02] have said that to everybody. He said,

[37:04] "Ed, the reason you're going to have a

[37:05] great life and make a huge difference is

[37:07] you're a good man."

[37:10] and he stopped.

[37:12] He had blue eyes, very similar to my

[37:14] dad's.

[37:16] That was the first time, Mel, in my

[37:18] life, in 30 years at that time, someone

[37:20] gave me a compliment that I believed.

[37:24] You'd have told me I was talented or

[37:25] smart or I didn't believe any of that.

[37:28] But he said, "I think you're a good

[37:29] man." I kind of believed that. And he

[37:32] goes, "I want you to always get your

[37:33] confidence from your intentions, Ed. You

[37:36] intend to do good. When you walk into a

[37:39] big speech, focus on your intentions to

[37:41] help. When you walk into a one-on-one

[37:43] meeting, I want that confidence to come

[37:45] from you. Remind yourself, I intend to

[37:47] do good. I intend to make a difference.

[37:49] I my intentions are good. He goes, you

[37:51] should beam with confidence over your

[37:52] intentions and not your ability. And I

[37:55] got to tell you, walking into the

[37:57] podcast today, any speech, if you asked

[38:00] me, hey, you're so smart, you're so

[38:02] this, I'd come in here really insecure.

[38:05] But I feed myself with my intention. And

[38:07] I would say our friend listening to

[38:08] this, you know what? You can shift your

[38:10] confidence in an instant

[38:12] with your intentions. Remind yourself,

[38:14] you are a good person. You do want to

[38:16] make a difference. You do want to help.

[38:18] You should be beaming with confidence

[38:21] because of your intention. No, I didn't

[38:22] know. He's writing a book called The

[38:23] Power of Intentions literally at that

[38:25] time. But I have to tell you, I have

[38:26] walked through this life with all these

[38:28] insecurities and all these worries, but

[38:29] in the moments where I need it, I'm a

[38:31] pretty confident dude. What's really

[38:33] cool about that story is he was

[38:35] previewing the lesson that you learned

[38:37] when your dad died.

[38:38] >> That's Wow.

[38:49] I never thought about that.

[38:56] You're right.

[38:59] >> You are a good dude.

[39:05] I never thought about that.

[39:06] >> What comes up for you when you think

[39:08] about that?

[39:18] I I

[39:20] wish

[39:22] I would have

[39:25] given myself a lot more grace in my

[39:27] life. So, I did heed that lesson

[39:33] like in the big moments like before a

[39:36] podcast or a speech or whatever or

[39:39] business meeting or something,

[39:42] but not every day of my life. Not the

[39:45] majority of me walking around with me.

[39:48] Me walking around with me. I wish I

[39:50] would have given myself a whole lot more

[39:52] grace every day of my life. Just to

[39:53] remind myself, hey, you're a pretty good

[39:54] guy. Everything will be okay. and I

[39:57] didn't give myself that grace. And uh

[40:00] and as a consequence, I probably hurt

[40:02] people around me, probably hurt my

[40:04] friends. I'm sure all those

[40:05] relationships could have been a lot

[40:06] deeper had I been more present instead

[40:09] of worrying about all the things I was

[40:11] worried about all the time. So I did I I

[40:14] also just think of like I can't ever get

[40:16] one of those days back with my dad.

[40:18] Yeah,

[40:19] >> I would love to have just had more time

[40:20] with my dad and told my dad when he was

[40:24] here how much I love him, how proud I

[40:26] was of him, how much I cherished him.

[40:28] You know, there's so many times people

[40:30] we love, they just walk in a room, and

[40:32] you don't know when the last time

[40:33] they're going to walk in that room is.

[40:35] We act like they're going to keep

[40:36] walking in a room. My sister gave birth

[40:38] to twin identical boys about a year ago.

[40:42] Uh [snorts] Cashes and Justice,

[40:43] beautiful boys. And about an hour after

[40:46] something happened with Cashes.

[40:47] Something wasn't good. And the doctors

[40:50] came in and grabbed him.

[40:53] And uh

[40:56] about

[40:58] an hour later, they came back in and

[41:00] told us that he had passed.

[41:02] And um in fact, my sister named the twin

[41:06] that survived just us because now it's

[41:08] just us.

[41:10] >> We don't know how much time we have.

[41:13] Cash has got one hour. We all act like

[41:16] we're going to get around to being

[41:17] happier. I'll get around to telling my

[41:19] dad how much I love him. I'm going to

[41:22] get around to calling Mel and just

[41:24] saying, "Hey, are you okay?" I'll get

[41:25] around to it. I'll get around to giving

[41:26] myself some joy. I'll get around to

[41:28] having some peace. I'll get around to

[41:30] making that one memory in my life. I'll

[41:33] get around to it until you don't. You

[41:36] don't know when the last time someone's

[41:37] going to walk in a room that you love.

[41:38] You don't know when the last time is the

[41:40] last time. I should have just given

[41:42] myself the gift of fully enjoying it.

[41:44] Like this is awesome, isn't it? Let's

[41:46] just take it all in. Not like where do I

[41:48] got to go next? Well, what about this?

[41:50] You know what I'm saying? Just enjoy

[41:51] these moments.

[41:52] >> Yes.

[41:52] >> None of them that cost any money. None

[41:55] of the good ones have cost money.

[41:58] >> It doesn't cost any money. When my mom

[42:00] walks in a room, it doesn't cost any

[42:02] money to just have a great conversation

[42:04] with God alone. It costs nothing. And

[42:07] yet I'm waiting around to getting

[42:09] around, aren't we, in our life.

[42:11] >> Well, you're not anymore.

[42:13] >> I'm not anymore. And do it now.

[42:16] Do it now. Don't act like you've got

[42:18] forever. Like right now. Take some

[42:21] action on something we've talked about

[42:22] today. Like now. Like now. A small one.

[42:25] Take a step. Get some progress. Move the

[42:27] car a little. I can't teach you to drive

[42:28] a parked car. Get moving. Just do

[42:31] something. You gave the most powerful

[42:36] tool on the planet. And I want to make

[42:39] sure that as you're listening to Ed that

[42:41] you really grab this and you start to

[42:43] use it.

[42:44] When you double down on your good

[42:46] intentions, it doesn't mean you're

[42:48] always going to get it right.

[42:50] >> It doesn't mean you're going to succeed.

[42:52] >> It doesn't mean you won't inadvertently

[42:56] hurt people or piss them off because you

[42:58] don't do what they expect. But if you

[43:00] know your intentions and you know

[43:02] they're anchored in your values and

[43:04] doing the best that you can and trying

[43:06] to be a good person, that is the single

[43:10] best and most powerful way to start to

[43:13] build confidence in yourself. And I I

[43:17] have gotten to a point in my life where

[43:18] I used to be crippled by criticism or

[43:21] crippled by what people might think or

[43:23] crippled by public perception or

[43:24] crippled by what are my friends going to

[43:26] and really knowing myself and my

[43:30] intentions

[43:32] has allowed me to move through life in a

[43:34] way where I know who I am and I'm proud

[43:37] of myself and I know why I'm doing what

[43:39] I do. And if people criticize me, they

[43:44] clearly don't know my intentions.

[43:46] >> And that's the one thing that's why I

[43:47] think a lot of people make a little bit

[43:48] of progress and then the criticism comes

[43:50] and they're like, "Okay, I'll shrink my

[43:52] dream. I'll shrink myself back to your

[43:54] small thinking."

[43:55] >> Yes. This goes to the thermostat. You

[43:57] start to feel the pressure from, are you

[43:58] sure you want to like not drink? Are you

[44:00] sure you want to work on that business

[44:01] this weekend? You sure you want to go

[44:02] for that run instead of just hanging

[44:04] here with me and watching the game?

[44:05] >> Exactly. Yeah. Who do you think you are?

[44:07] >> Yes.

[44:07] >> All of a sudden, you're happy. Oh, now

[44:09] you're the fitness expert, huh? And at

[44:11] some point in our in a great life, you

[44:13] decide, I will not shrink myself for

[44:15] your acceptance. Because this life isn't

[44:17] about your acceptance. You're it's my

[44:19] own acceptance. It's God's acceptance.

[44:21] You know, the number one impact on your

[44:22] thermostat setting associations.

[44:25] If your five best friends eat really

[44:27] clean, you know, drink a bunch of water,

[44:30] take a walk every day, do some

[44:31] stretching, if that were the five people

[44:33] you around, you're probably going to be

[44:35] a little bit more fit, right? So, so the

[44:37] number one thing that dials that

[44:38] thermostat down is who you're around.

[44:40] And so, if you have to be around these

[44:42] people that don't serve you, you have to

[44:44] find a way that your self-worth is not

[44:45] connected to their approval. And it's a

[44:48] biggie.

[44:48] >> It's like a snake shedding a skin.

[44:51] >> Mhm.

[44:51] >> That's why it feels really awful to step

[44:54] into a new chapter of your life because

[44:55] there are parts of you that you're

[44:57] shedding. M.

[44:58] >> And so I want to go back to intention

[45:00] because the more you know thyself and

[45:03] you know your intentions and you know

[45:05] the background and you know what you've

[45:06] put into it and you know why you're

[45:09] doing something.

[45:11] You're the only person's opinion that

[45:13] actually matters.

[45:14] >> Yeah. I love the way you just said that.

[45:16] That's the crazy thing. It's so true.

[45:19] If you were to, you know, in the

[45:20] millions of people that you've coached

[45:22] and inspired and the mega bestseller

[45:25] that you've written,

[45:26] >> if you could recommend one habit that

[45:29] really has that domino effect for

[45:31] somebody, if they're listening to you

[45:32] and they're like, "Okay, you're right,

[45:34] Ed.

[45:34] >> For me, it's moving my body early in the

[45:36] day." Okay,

[45:37] >> it's just a really simple thing. When I

[45:39] move my body early in the day, that is a

[45:42] catalyst habit for me because I don't

[45:44] like to do it. I've lifted weights for

[45:46] 35 years. I've enjoyed maybe seven of

[45:48] those days, but I've enjoyed walking out

[45:51] of the gym when I'm done almost every

[45:53] single time once I've accomplished it.

[45:55] So, to me, why does that matter? It's

[45:58] one of the few areas of my life I can

[46:00] control. I can't control whether someone

[46:02] shows up for the meeting. I can't

[46:03] control whether we close a sale. I can't

[46:05] control how somebody feels about

[46:06] something. I can't control I can control

[46:09] that I got up and I moved my body. It

[46:11] gives me energy. It also says to me, I'm

[46:14] willing to do something most people

[46:15] aren't willing to do. So maybe I'm going

[46:17] to get things most people aren't going

[46:19] to get. So my catalyst habit is that my

[46:23] new one, I'll give you my new one. My

[46:24] new one is writing. I don't like to

[46:27] write. I'm not a good writer. And I used

[46:29] to use that as an excuse. I'm not good

[46:30] at this. I'm not good at this. People

[46:31] use as an excuse. So what? I have to get

[46:33] good at it because guess what happens

[46:35] when I write? It's a form of

[46:36] self-expression. I get things on paper

[46:38] that tell me, hey, what you're doing

[46:39] with that worry you have is completely

[46:41] dumb and you're you're wasting time on.

[46:43] It's not real. But it's also like in our

[46:46] industry because I've got better at

[46:47] writing, it's stimulated more prayer.

[46:50] It's stimulated more uh thinking of

[46:53] content of things I can share on shows,

[46:56] things I can put in books. But that

[46:58] moment of peace with my my cup of coffee

[47:00] in front of me and I just write and it's

[47:02] become for me like a great cathartic

[47:05] form of expression of me just getting

[47:07] out of my head and onto this piece of

[47:10] paper.

[47:10] >> How does writing create peace in your

[47:13] mind?

[47:14] >> Okay, I'll tell you for me

[47:15] >> and I want you to put me at the scene.

[47:17] >> I'm just candidly I get up and I get out

[47:19] of my bed and I get on my knees and I

[47:21] get on my knees and it's usually between

[47:22] 30 seconds and 3 minutes and it's just

[47:24] some prayer time. It gives me

[47:25] perspective. So, I do that and then for

[47:28] me, I go do my workout first because

[47:29] it's the thing I don't want to do the

[47:31] most in the world. And then I get my cup

[47:33] of coffee and I sit down and I sit in

[47:35] the same spot. By the way, I think that

[47:37] spot after you do it for a while becomes

[47:39] a trigger

[47:40] >> becomes an anchor to a particular state

[47:41] of mind. So, I do sit in the same spot

[47:44] and I have my cup of coffee and I begin

[47:46] to write. It's usually about 30 minutes.

[47:48] And my thing is I have to write within

[47:49] one minute. I have to put something on

[47:52] that paper. Some mornings it's a worry

[47:53] that I have, but it's going to be on

[47:54] that paper within a minute. And I do do

[47:56] this now. I can honestly say every day.

[48:00] >> How has it changed your mindset and

[48:02] worry and anxiety like this anchor

[48:04] practice?

[48:05] >> It's a great release for me. And I

[48:07] actually just write to one person. So

[48:09] different days I pick different people.

[48:11] Some days I may be writing to me in my

[48:14] current state of life. Some days I'm

[48:15] writing to young me. Some days I'm

[48:17] writing to my children. I'm into this

[48:19] new thing where I observe people and I'm

[48:21] in love with a particular person that I

[48:23] can't take my eyes off of and it started

[48:25] about four years ago. I had a flight

[48:27] canled and I was stuck in a delay in the

[48:30] airport.

[48:31] My eye caught this woman. I probably

[48:34] can't get through this without telling

[48:35] you this, but I write to her a lot. I

[48:37] noticed her and she um she was wheeling

[48:40] a trash can around and she was picking

[48:42] up the trash around the airport and

[48:44] going in and cleaning the bathrooms and

[48:46] I watched her and I could not take my

[48:48] eyes off her. Remember there's thousands

[48:50] of people walking around her and I just

[48:53] started to think about her life.

[48:56] She looked to me to be in her late 60s.

[49:00] I just projected her life in my mind.

[49:02] But she got up that morning,

[49:06] probably in an apartment,

[49:09] probably by herself.

[49:12] And she got up in the dark cuz that's

[49:14] when she gets up. She made herself a

[49:16] little breakfast.

[49:19] Her big hope for the day is maybe her

[49:20] kids will call.

[49:22] >> Maybe her grandchildren will call her.

[49:25] And uh long ago, she had dreams in her

[49:28] life.

[49:30] And just in my mind, this man she loved

[49:32] left.

[49:34] He left.

[49:36] And she stayed and finished raising

[49:38] those kids. And all these hopes and

[49:40] dreams she had for her life, they didn't

[49:43] all come together the way she hoped. She

[49:45] prays every morning. She loves God.

[49:48] She's never hurt a soul. She got up that

[49:50] morning. She got in her car in the dark

[49:52] and she drove to a parking lot. She then

[49:54] has to get on a bus to get to the

[49:56] airport with a bunch of other people in

[49:58] there that maybe that day is not their

[50:00] dream day. No one says hello to her. No

[50:03] one acknowledges her. They give her a

[50:04] name badge. They assign her her trash

[50:07] can for the day. They send her off into

[50:09] the airport. And all day long, no one

[50:11] sees her.

[50:13] She's tired. She's weary.

[50:18] No one says hello. No one says I love

[50:21] you. No one says great job. Meanwhile,

[50:24] around her, everybody's on their way to

[50:26] their dream vacation, their big business

[50:28] meeting. They're chasing their dreams in

[50:30] their life. She goes her whole day

[50:32] invisible. And at the end of the day,

[50:35] she brings her trash can back, puts the

[50:38] name badge on, gets back in her car,

[50:40] drives home, and she's just hoping her

[50:41] kids call.

[50:43] She's hoping her grandbabies might call

[50:44] her tonight. She's going to get up and

[50:46] do that again. I thought

[50:49] how resilient she is.

[50:52] She doesn't complain. She just gets up

[50:55] every day and does what she can to make

[50:57] her life better.

[50:59] So, like you would do or anybody would

[51:00] do, I just walked over. And you know

[51:02] what I found out, by the way? She's

[51:04] everywhere.

[51:06] She cleaned your hotel room this

[51:07] morning.

[51:10] She's a he today, too. He got in a truck

[51:12] this morning to go somewhere to pay the

[51:15] bills for his family. Maybe he's not

[51:17] going exactly where he thought he was

[51:18] going to be going 20 years ago. He just

[51:21] wants his wife to be proud of him. He

[51:23] just wants to be his kid's hero. And he

[51:25] doesn't feel great about himself right

[51:26] now. And he wants to be happier. And he

[51:28] wants to That's who I'm writing to now.

[51:31] I want to tell him, "I love you. It's

[51:33] not too late. It's not over yet. You

[51:36] have value. You matter. You know, the

[51:39] hero of my family, Mel, isn't my dad,

[51:41] who I write about all the time. It's my

[51:43] mom. My mom's the one whose husband was

[51:47] gone many nights, and she's the one who

[51:49] did homework with us. And I never knew

[51:50] anything was wrong. She's the one that

[51:52] went to bed most of those nights when my

[51:53] dad was out somewhere. It still made us

[51:56] lunch for the next day, got up and made

[51:57] us breakfast, took us to school, made us

[52:00] feel safe. She got no credit for that.

[52:03] No credit. But she held our family

[52:04] together. She was the glue. A lot of

[52:07] these people are the glue in their

[52:09] family. They were the strength. They

[52:10] were the quiet person who held that

[52:13] family together the entire time. I want

[52:15] to write to them. I want to say to them,

[52:17] it's not over. You matter. You're a good

[52:20] person. Good things come from you.

[52:23] People say, "It's too late. It's over. I

[52:24] didn't make it." In many people's cases,

[52:27] it may be a little bit from now before

[52:29] anybody really appreciates what you've

[52:30] done. But at some point, I promise you,

[52:32] the people that love you, it took me a

[52:34] long time to figure out, "My dad's not

[52:36] the hero of our family. It's my mom. She

[52:38] didn't make any of the mistakes. She

[52:40] didn't make any of the noise. She just

[52:42] loved us. She just served us every day

[52:44] quietly, and got no credit. These are

[52:47] the heroes. These are the people that I

[52:50] want to write to, to give hope to, to

[52:52] give the tools to, and just to say,

[52:53] "Hey, I see you.

[52:55] >> You're not invisible. It's not too late.

[52:56] You're not disqualified. You're

[52:58] immensely qualified." And you're

[52:59] changing people's lives probably more

[53:01] often every day than you realize. And

[53:03] you don't earn your way into heaven. You

[53:05] just got to get there. Whatever you

[53:06] believe about that, but you earn the

[53:08] line of people waiting to thank you when

[53:10] you get there. And people like my mom

[53:13] and like Griselda, that was her name. Uh

[53:16] there's a long line of people that'll be

[53:18] thanking them someday. So I want to

[53:20] write to them. I picture her a lot when

[53:22] I write.

[53:22] >> What are you saying to her or or to him,

[53:24] the guy driving the truck? What do you

[53:26] say to the person who's listening that

[53:27] really resonates with that? Because I

[53:30] could see myself in scenes of my own

[53:33] life.

[53:34] >> I could see my parents. I could see my

[53:36] grandparents. Like I [clears throat]

[53:37] often look at people when you're at a

[53:39] stoplight and I wonder where are they

[53:41] driving?

[53:42] >> So do I.

[53:42] >> What job are they going to? What are

[53:44] they thinking about right now? like what

[53:45] struggles do they have? What dreams have

[53:47] they given up on? What do you say to

[53:49] people?

[53:50] >> I do too, Mel. It's caused me to really

[53:52] see people. First off, the great gift of

[53:54] it is with everybody I'm with, I think I

[53:56] spend a little longer seeing them and a

[54:00] little less trying to make an impression

[54:01] on them.

[54:04] I used to walk in a room and go, "Here I

[54:05] am." [laughter]

[54:07] Now I tend to walk in a room and go,

[54:08] "There you are." M

[54:10] >> and um what I write to them is that

[54:13] you're making a bigger difference in the

[54:14] world than you give yourself credit for.

[54:17] And

[54:19] like my mom,

[54:28] that's who I am.

[54:30] Like if there is goodness in me, that

[54:33] good me I got from her. I caught that.

[54:38] She never taught it. She never got on a

[54:39] soap box and said, "I just watched it

[54:41] every day." And I think so many of these

[54:45] people in life need to know. One, it's

[54:47] not too late.

[54:49] And there is a dream and a memory in

[54:51] your life coming. And you deserve it.

[54:55] And what we have to do is to get you to

[54:58] love yourself without conditions so that

[55:00] we can change that thermostat setting.

[55:02] And the more that I can write to them

[55:03] and say, "Just so you know, what you're

[55:06] doing is the most important thing, which

[55:08] is helping the people you love the most.

[55:10] What a world-class father you are. What

[55:13] a worldclass mother you are." Those are

[55:15] the most important things in life. And

[55:17] from there, you can build something

[55:19] great. We have to change this. What

[55:21] happens with these folks that we love so

[55:23] much is their self-love is all it

[55:27] becomes conditional.

[55:29] And unless they're achieving, unless

[55:31] they're growing, they don't give

[55:32] themselves the gift of the grace of

[55:33] loving themselves like they should have.

[55:34] I can't believe we've gone this deep

[55:36] today, by the way, this many times. And

[55:38] I want them to know that the the the

[55:40] chance for you in your life to make a

[55:41] difference in your life is to

[55:42] acknowledge the good things you've

[55:44] already done and to stop highlighting

[55:46] all the time. The highlight reel of your

[55:48] life is not your mistakes. It's not your

[55:50] setbacks. It's not who left. It's not

[55:51] who betrayed you. It's the fact that

[55:54] you're still standing after they did.

[55:57] This thing you're carrying with you is

[55:59] what makes you special. You're still

[56:01] standing. And the fact that it's been so

[56:03] difficult and you've carried it with

[56:05] such grace, with such honor, you didn't

[56:07] return the favor. You didn't return the

[56:09] betrayal. You didn't return the hurt.

[56:12] You just got up every day and did what

[56:14] you needed to do. And that makes you

[56:15] incredible. And it's not too late. We

[56:18] can build from that place that you're at

[56:19] right now if you'll acknowledge it. And

[56:21] I want to write to them. That's all I

[56:22] want you want to write to now,

[56:25] >> you know. Um, Ed, I not only think

[56:28] you're a good man, I think you're a

[56:30] worldclass human.

[56:32] >> Thank you.

[56:33] >> Who is changing the world for the

[56:34] better.

[56:34] >> Oh, thank you.

[56:35] >> And I'm proud to be your friend.

[56:37] >> I love you. I'm proud of you. Thank you.

[56:40] >> What are your parting words?

[56:42] >> I just want to remind you that you were

[56:44] born to do something great with your

[56:46] life. You were. Um, when I was a little

[56:50] guy, my grandfather would pick me up. My

[56:53] remember my dad's missing. My

[56:54] grandfather would pick me up and he had

[56:56] this blue van.

[56:59] And my grandfather worked for the Boston

[57:01] Globe. He was a pressman, okay? And so

[57:03] he would pick me up on Sundays and we'd

[57:05] go get donuts and pick them up for my

[57:06] other cousins, but I was the oldest

[57:08] cousin. So he'd pick me up, we're

[57:09] driving in the van, and I would just

[57:10] look at Papa, this big guy. And he would

[57:12] look down at me when he was driving.

[57:14] He'd go, "Eddie." I go, "Yeah, Big

[57:16] Papa." He goes, "You're going to do

[57:18] something great with your life." And I

[57:20] go, "I am Big Papa." He goes, "Oh,

[57:23] you're going to do something awesome.

[57:24] You're my favorite. You're my favorite."

[57:27] And every time one of my cousins was

[57:28] born, he'd call me. He goes, "Oh, hey,

[57:30] cousin Peter was born." And I'd start to

[57:32] feel kind of jealous. And he go, "Hey,

[57:33] don't tell anybody." I go, "What papa?"

[57:35] He goes, "You're my favorite."

[57:38] And I say that to you because if you had

[57:40] anybody in your life when you were a

[57:41] child who believed in you, anybody, your

[57:44] mom, your dad, a grandparent, a coach,

[57:47] whatever, they just looked at you.

[57:48] Remember them? You just felt special.

[57:51] You felt safe when you were with them.

[57:53] Remember that person? Most of you have

[57:56] that person in your life. My final

[57:59] message to you is that they were right.

[58:02] Maybe everybody else missed it, but they

[58:05] were right. They were right about you.

[58:08] And my challenge to you would be make

[58:10] them proud of you. Make them proud of

[58:13] you. If they're still here, you still

[58:14] have time to show them. If they're gone,

[58:18] honor them with the person you're

[58:20] becoming every day with the choices you

[58:22] make. Make them proud of your

[58:23] resilience. Make them proud of your

[58:25] toughness. And if you never had that

[58:26] person, I apply for the position. And I

[58:30] can promise you, whatever your faith

[58:32] beliefs are,

[58:34] God looks at you with so much pride, so

[58:37] much joy, so much belief, so much love.

[58:41] And there's time left for you.

[58:43] >> There's time still left on the clock.

[58:45] And all these mistakes, all these

[58:46] setbacks, all these hurts, all the pain,

[58:51] all of those things were qualifying you

[58:53] to do something great because you are

[58:55] most qualified to help that person you

[58:57] used to be. And there's somebody

[59:00] somewhere who needs you so badly. Start

[59:03] looking for them. You're one person, one

[59:05] decision away from totally changing your

[59:08] life. So start looking for it.

[59:11] >> Ed Milelet, I love you.

[59:14] >> I love you. I absolutely love you. I am

[59:16] so proud of you and I knew you as Max

[59:21] out Ed. [laughter] I knew you preheart

[59:24] attack and I got to say this is the best

[59:28] you ever.

[59:29] >> Oh, thank you. Wow. [laughter] That

[59:32] means a lot coming from you, Mel. So,

[59:33] thank you.

[59:33] >> No, I mean it like that I I always felt

[59:36] the oozing goodness coming out of you,

[59:39] but there is this expanded capacity and

[59:42] depth.

[59:44] and way that you're showing up. That is

[59:47] absolutely incredible.

[59:49] >> Thank you.

[59:49] >> Life-changing.

[59:51] >> Thank you. I am here to help you help

[59:54] people and um that means the world to me

[59:56] coming from you. There's very few people

[59:58] like we've both said whose opinions

[1:00:00] matter and uh yours matters very deeply

[1:00:03] to me. Thank you so much. I loved today.

[1:00:05] This exceeded my expectations. So, thank

[1:00:07] you.

[1:00:07] >> Well, um we went deep because that's the

[1:00:10] kind of friends we are.

[1:00:11] >> Yeah. Thank you. And I also want to

[1:00:13] thank you. Thank you for making the time

[1:00:16] and spending it with me and Ed. Isn't he

[1:00:18] just a treasure? I hope you will share

[1:00:20] this with people in your life that you

[1:00:22] love. And you're going to do something

[1:00:25] great with your life. And I know you are

[1:00:27] because you're going to take everything

[1:00:28] that Ed poured into you to heart. And

[1:00:30] you are going to use the tools. And you

[1:00:32] are going to continue to remind yourself

[1:00:35] that you're a good person and good

[1:00:37] things are going to happen because

[1:00:38] you're going to make them happen. And in

[1:00:40] case nobody else tells you today as your

[1:00:41] friend, I wanted to be sure to tell you

[1:00:43] that I love you and I believe in you and

[1:00:44] I believe in your ability to create a

[1:00:46] better life. And there is no doubt in my

[1:00:48] mind that everything that Ed shared with

[1:00:50] you was exactly what you were meant to

[1:00:52] hear at this exact moment in your life.

[1:00:56] So please just honor it as a blessing

[1:00:59] that was given to you. And thank you for

[1:01:01] watching all the way to the end. I

[1:01:03] really love being here with you. Wasn't

[1:01:05] that extraordinary? Thanks for being so

[1:01:07] generous with that for being a

[1:01:08] subscriber. [music] All right, I know

[1:01:10] because he just lit you up, you want to

[1:01:12] watch another episode of the Mel Robbins

[1:01:14] Podcast. You're going to love this one

[1:01:15] next. And I'm going to welcome you in

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Mylett argues that a new relationship, idea, or breakthrough is often one opportunity away, but you will miss it if you are not living in a way that expects it. He says the first step is a decision to expect that good things can show up, and that expectation focuses your mind on confirming it. He adds that you do not need to believe it will happen yet, because imagining it comes first.
After his father died, Mylett audited his life by asking what matters to him, what is important, and who he wants to be when his life is over. The answers help you decide what to keep and what to release. He says his stated intention is to pluck out of his life the things that no longer serve him.
Mylett advises that when you feel most helpless, you should attempt to become most helpful by moving your focus off yourself for a while. The help can be small, such as calling someone you have not spoken to in a long time. He says that quietly praying for a stranger on the street made him feel he had value and worth during his lowest period.
Mylett held his father's hand as he died and realized that his father's body was no longer really his father. He noticed that his father's car, awards, fears, and worries all stayed behind. For Mylett, this showed him that you are not your possessions, accolades, or worries, and that you can begin separating from those things now rather than waiting.
Mylett says he made the things he worried about bigger than they were and spent years waiting for a future condition, like paid-off credit cards, before allowing himself peace. He calls this 'moving the end zone,' meaning each goal reveals a new one. His answer is to enjoy the gifts already around you, such as people, now.
No. Mylett says he still struggles with massive insecurity and self-confidence, even as an adult at 55, and that if feeling secure were a requirement for a decent life, he would never have one. His point is that you can build a meaningful life while still carrying doubt.

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