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[0:00] The highlight reel of your life is not
[0:02] your mistakes. It's not your setbacks.
[0:04] It's not who left. It's not who betrayed
[0:06] you. It's the fact that you're still
[0:08] standing after they did. [music] And
[0:10] that makes you incredible.
[0:11] >> Today on the Mel Robbins podcast, you
[0:13] know, Ed, this is the first interview
[0:16] that you've done in almost 2 years.
[0:18] >> What happened?
[0:19] >> I've never said this. It's pretty
[0:20] personal.
[0:26] [music]
[0:26] >> I'm going to get more clear on what I
[0:27] want. I'm going to take away and pluck
[0:29] out of my life the things that don't
[0:30] serve me anymore. You are literally one
[0:33] decision away from changing your life
[0:34] and it's not too late.
[0:35] >> The extraordinary Ed my
[0:48] such an honor to welcome you my dear
[0:51] friend Ed Milelet to the Mel Robbins
[0:54] podcast. I am so happy to be here. It is
[0:56] so good to see you. I love you and I'm
[0:59] so proud of all you've been doing.
[1:00] >> Oh, I am so excited to have you here
[1:04] because when I feel down, when I feel
[1:06] discouraged, when I overcomplicate my
[1:09] life,
[1:10] >> you're the person I turn to.
[1:11] >> Oh, wow. Thank you, Mel, so much. That
[1:13] means the world to me coming from you.
[1:14] >> Well, that's why I wanted you here
[1:16] because I feel like you have this
[1:19] magical ability to lift people up
[1:22] >> when they feel very low. And if the
[1:24] person who is listening right now feels
[1:27] like the best of their life is behind
[1:29] them
[1:30] >> or they just feel stuck and discouraged
[1:35] >> if they were to truly take to heart
[1:38] everything that you're about to share
[1:39] with us today from your remarkable life
[1:41] >> and the [clears throat] things that
[1:42] you've learned the hard way
[1:44] >> what could change? Well,
[1:45] >> I think everything can change. I'm a big
[1:47] believer and I know you are as well. you
[1:49] you are literally one decision away from
[1:51] changing your life. And that is not
[1:53] rhetoric to me in any way. You're one
[1:56] new relationship, one new idea, one
[1:58] breakthrough. You truly are one
[2:00] opportunity, one decision away. But
[2:03] here's the hook. If you don't live a
[2:05] life expecting those one mors to show
[2:07] up, you're going to miss them. And all
[2:10] it is is a decision. Hey, I'm going to
[2:12] get up expecting some good crap to
[2:13] happen. I'm going to get up expecting
[2:15] someone to come in that's going to make
[2:16] a shift. I'm going to get up maybe
[2:18] coming up with a new idea. I'm going to
[2:20] expect listening to this podcast today
[2:21] between Ed and Mel. I'm going to come up
[2:22] with a new idea, a new thought, a new
[2:24] perspective. If you expect it, your mind
[2:27] goes to work on confirming that belief.
[2:29] You have to say, you know what, the way
[2:32] I've been thinking, unfortunately, has
[2:34] got me where I'm at. What do I have to
[2:36] lose by just maybe just imagining a
[2:39] different You don't even have to believe
[2:41] it's going to happen yet. I didn't say
[2:42] believe it yet. We'll get to that later.
[2:44] It starts with imagining it. Here's the
[2:47] other thing I would say. You're probably
[2:49] already imagining things now. They're
[2:52] just not the things that serve you.
[2:53] >> So, give me some examples.
[2:54] >> Well, I can tell you like the way that I
[2:55] was raised with an alcoholic and a drug
[2:57] addict dad. And by the way, we're
[2:59] recording this in Boston. We were on
[3:01] welfare when we lived here in Boston as
[3:02] a little boy. So, I know what it I I I
[3:05] really kind of think I know what it's
[3:06] like to not feel good about yourself. To
[3:08] this day, at 55, walking in here today,
[3:11] I still struggle, which is amazing to I
[3:14] don't know I've ever said this on any
[3:15] show out loud. I still driving over
[3:18] here, I was like, why why would they
[3:20] listen to me?
[3:23] I I still struggle with massive
[3:26] insecurity, self-confidence, all of
[3:28] those things are things that I don't I
[3:29] don't know that I'm ever going to leave
[3:30] all of them. So, if that was a
[3:32] requirement to have a decent life, I
[3:34] would never have one. The one thing I
[3:36] would say, at least in my own life, cuz
[3:37] I have felt that way many times. Even
[3:39] recently, I felt that way. [snorts] When
[3:41] you feel the most helpless, attempt to
[3:43] become the most helpful. In other words,
[3:45] move your frame of reference off of
[3:47] yourself temporarily and do whatever you
[3:49] can to just go serve in some way in a
[3:51] quiet way. It can even be small. It can
[3:53] even be just calling someone out of the
[3:55] blue that you've not talked to in a long
[3:56] time and saying, "Hey, just want to
[3:57] remind you," which I do with you from
[3:58] time to time. I love you. I'm thinking
[4:01] about you. Just somehow get out of self
[4:03] for a second. And so when you feel
[4:05] helpless, get helpful. When I was at my
[4:07] lowest of my life, I remember thinking,
[4:08] I'm going to literally say a prayer for
[4:10] this person that's walking by me. Like
[4:12] literally on the street, just peace me
[4:14] with them. And it was it made me feel
[4:16] good about me. It's like I have some
[4:18] value, some worth. I got to tell you
[4:20] something. Maybe it's too much, but I
[4:23] was with my dad when he died, Mel.
[4:26] And uh I literally held my father's hand
[4:28] when he took his last breath. This is
[4:30] pretty personal, but we were in my dad's
[4:32] house, Mel. And um and I walked in there
[4:35] and immediately something dawned on me.
[4:39] Um that was my dad there, but it was not
[4:42] really my dad anymore. That was his
[4:44] body. Just I just knew there's more to
[4:47] us than our bodies. Whatever your faith
[4:49] beliefs are, but there's a there's a
[4:51] spirit to you. There's a soul. There's
[4:53] an energy. There's a frequency that you
[4:56] were put here to do something in your
[4:57] life that's great for a reason. You're
[4:59] supposed to be happy. You're supposed to
[5:01] get some of those dreams out of your
[5:03] life. You're supposed to have some
[5:04] memories. We were in my dad's house,
[5:06] Mel. My dad's car was parked in the
[5:09] driveway. He didn't take any of those
[5:11] with him. You're not your possessions.
[5:14] My dad had some awards literally in the
[5:16] room he passed away in. You're not your
[5:19] accolades or what other people think
[5:21] about you or say about you. He took none
[5:22] of that with him. But there's another
[5:24] thing my dad had when he died that he
[5:27] also didn't take with him. My dad had
[5:29] fears.
[5:31] problems,
[5:33] worries, insecurities, none of those
[5:36] went with them. So, you are not those
[5:39] things. Not only you're not your body or
[5:42] your possessions or what other people
[5:43] say about you, but you're not these
[5:45] worries. You're not these fears. You're
[5:47] not your insecurities. So, at any time,
[5:49] you can make a decision to begin to
[5:51] separate from them. You don't have to
[5:52] wait to the end like my dad did. And I
[5:54] say that to everybody because I think
[5:56] sometimes we think every condition we
[5:58] have is forever. Nothing's forever. This
[6:01] life isn't forever. So, why not begin to
[6:04] think a little bit differently? Why not
[6:06] to imagine and dream? Because you're not
[6:08] going to take any of that stuff with you
[6:09] anyway.
[6:10] >> How did that experience and revelation
[6:14] shift you?
[6:16] >> You know what occurs to you when when a
[6:17] parent passes away? You're next. I'm
[6:21] next. I've only got so much time here
[6:23] left. And so, what it did for me is it
[6:26] made me audit my life. What matters to
[6:28] me? what's important? Who do I want to
[6:31] be when this thing's over with? I know
[6:32] we're getting heavy early, but it did do
[6:36] that for me. And um but the biggie for
[6:39] me was I'm a worrier.
[6:41] >> I [laughter]
[6:41] >> People wouldn't know that about you, but
[6:43] it's so true.
[6:44] >> It's true. I worry. And um I I know
[6:46] where it comes from, too. But I I just
[6:48] think so many of the things I worried
[6:50] about in my life, I made bigger than
[6:52] they were. And I've spent so much of my
[6:54] life not giving myself the gift of peace
[6:56] that was always around me. M it was
[6:59] always around me and I thought man if I
[7:00] could once I get that I can be happy.
[7:02] Once I get that I won't worry anymore.
[7:04] Once I have enough money saved or once I
[7:06] remember thinking when I was so broke
[7:08] and all this money on credit cards is if
[7:09] I could just get these credit cards paid
[7:11] off. If I could just get the and I kept
[7:13] moving the end zone all of the time. And
[7:16] so when my dad died I literally decided
[7:19] I'm I'm I'm going to enjoy the gifts
[7:21] that are around me. And it turns out
[7:24] it's the people and just looking into
[7:27] their eyes a little bit longer, spending
[7:28] a little bit more time telling them I
[7:30] love them. And I know that may sound
[7:31] hokey, but it brings me great joy to do
[7:33] that in my life. Now, that's not that I
[7:35] don't think you should go for your big
[7:36] dreams, right? And have achievement and
[7:38] make a difference. This show makes a
[7:40] huge difference. I'd like to think my
[7:41] show makes a difference in people's
[7:42] lives, but I don't ever want to do that
[7:44] again at the expense of the people
[7:46] around me that are closest to me. And I
[7:48] know you feel that way, too. It was like
[7:49] just sometimes just there are blessings
[7:51] around us if we'll just acknowledge
[7:54] them. And I think sometimes we think
[7:57] well if I once I'm happy then I'll get
[7:58] that thing. What if it's the reverse?
[8:01] What is that if you could actually feel
[8:02] some of the emotions of gratefulness and
[8:04] gratitude and joy and bliss and peace
[8:07] now that the things you want will find
[8:11] you rather than you having to go get all
[8:14] these things thinking if you get them
[8:16] you'll get the emotion. You said a
[8:18] couple things that I want to make sure
[8:19] that I have you unpack because they're
[8:21] really important.
[8:22] >> Okay.
[8:22] >> And you know, I told you when we first
[8:25] started talking, I said, I think that as
[8:27] you're listening to this, you're going
[8:30] to have goosebumps because you're going
[8:32] to feel like this conversation
[8:35] at this exact moment is exactly what you
[8:39] needed to hear.
[8:40] >> And I already feel that way for
[8:41] [laughter] me personally. So, what you
[8:44] just said about your dad
[8:45] >> Oh.
[8:45] >> Um, cuz I do think a lot about time and
[8:48] how uh it's ticking.
[8:50] >> Yes.
[8:50] >> And that if you're not careful, you'll
[8:52] miss the things Yeah.
[8:54] >> that matter most cuz you were busy
[8:56] thinking you had more time.
[8:57] >> That's right.
[8:58] >> But you also said, you know, you had
[9:00] regrets around it.
[9:02] >> Mhm.
[9:02] >> But you then recalibrated. So could you
[9:05] explain why that's a powerful pivot when
[9:08] you are brave enough to see your regrets
[9:11] >> but then you use the regret to
[9:14] recalibrate how you move forward.
[9:16] >> There's two things that move you I found
[9:18] in this life it's one is like moving
[9:20] towards pleasure and dreams. The other
[9:21] one is moving away from pain
[9:23] >> and sometimes this pain can kind of be a
[9:25] gift in the sense that you know I like I
[9:27] don't I'm not a big uh drinker. I have a
[9:30] cocktail as you know but I'm not a big
[9:32] drinker. And one of the reasons I'm not
[9:33] is because of the pain of watching my
[9:35] father do too much of it. So some of
[9:37] these things actually that are brought
[9:39] into our life um can teach us a lesson.
[9:42] I'm a big believer that at any stage of
[9:44] your life, you have full permission to
[9:45] reit.
[9:47] And just ask yourself like, is this
[9:49] still my dream? Is this still what I
[9:51] want? Is this still serving me? I have
[9:53] an island. There was these two bald
[9:55] eagles on the island, Wilma and Fred,
[9:58] and they were there about 15 years
[9:59] before I bought it. I found Fred one day
[10:02] under a tree and he was struggling and I
[10:05] put some food out and he didn't come out
[10:07] for he finally came out and I thought
[10:08] something's wrong. I don't know bald
[10:09] eagles very well but something's wrong.
[10:11] We called the bird sanctuary and uh
[10:14] about 2 days later they had to
[10:17] >> put him down and and uh he went to
[10:18] heaven and afterwards the lady from the
[10:21] bird sanctuary came out and she said
[10:22] just so you know Wilma will go soon.
[10:25] >> Usually when they lose their mate
[10:28] they'll go soon. About five weeks later,
[10:30] I'm taking a walk and I'm hearing this
[10:32] banging against the rocks like a
[10:33] woodpecker. She's plucking all the
[10:35] feathers off of her that no longer serve
[10:37] her.
[10:38] >> Oh my god.
[10:39] >> And sure enough, she ended up coming
[10:42] back about 6 months later. All of these
[10:44] feathers were back. She ended up finding
[10:46] a new mate. She's had three babies. They
[10:48] lived there on the island. She's remade
[10:50] her life. The lesson is sometimes in
[10:52] life, it's not about adding a bunch more
[10:53] stuff. It's the reverse. It's about
[10:56] reoditing and saying, "I'm going to get
[10:57] more clear on what I want. I'm going to
[10:59] take away and pluck out of my life the
[11:01] things that don't serve me anymore, the
[11:03] beliefs that don't serve me. Maybe some
[11:05] of the relationships that are toxic that
[11:07] don't serve me anymore, the environments
[11:08] that I'm in. And when you begin to take
[11:10] away things, a whole new you emerges and
[11:13] you get a new life." And that's what
[11:14] happened to Wilma. And that's sort of
[11:16] what happened when my dad passed.
[11:18] >> How long ago did your dad pass?
[11:20] >> Three years. Three and a half.
[11:21] >> And you said you did an audit. Mhm.
[11:24] >> So, is there a specific way that the
[11:26] person listening can take audit of their
[11:28] life?
[11:29] >> Simple. I actually wrote down the things
[11:30] that I thought I wanted in my life. I
[11:32] made a list of the things that I wanted
[11:33] in my life and I actually literally
[11:34] ranked them on what juiced me anymore
[11:36] and that when life was over, which one
[11:38] of these am I going to? And I got to the
[11:39] point where I'm here's my new thing in
[11:41] my life. [snorts] What do I want to
[11:42] leave here?
[11:44] And for me, what I want to leave here is
[11:46] I want to leave here great memories with
[11:48] my family, great dreams with my family,
[11:51] far deeper relationships with my
[11:53] friends, and I also want to leave here
[11:55] feeling like, you know, I used to say,
[11:57] max out your life, get everything. And
[12:00] to me, that meant climbing. To me, now
[12:02] the the biggest commodity in my life is
[12:04] people and time. And so, I made a list
[12:06] of the things. And I found to myself
[12:08] that a lot of the things that I wrote
[12:10] down didn't juice me anymore. And then
[12:12] what I did, here's the biggie. I wrote
[12:13] down what I was afraid of
[12:15] >> because although I don't maybe people
[12:17] might not think this, I'm loaded with
[12:19] fears, loaded with worries, loaded with
[12:22] anxiety. And so I wrote those things
[12:24] down and I began to ask myself how real
[12:26] were they? And once I wrote them down,
[12:28] they lost a lot of their power over me.
[12:30] I became really aware of how silly most
[12:33] of these things were that I were was
[12:34] worried about. Simply by writing them
[12:36] down, getting them out of my mind and
[12:38] onto a sheet of paper tactically is what
[12:40] I did different. I'm like, "That's
[12:41] hilarious. That one's dumb. That one's
[12:43] valid. That one's maybe. Maybe that one.
[12:46] This one's never going to happen, dumb
[12:48] dumb, you've been carrying this one
[12:49] forever, writing them down almost like
[12:52] they're they were thoughts I had. They
[12:54] were not me once I put them on the
[12:55] paper."
[12:56] >> You know, Ed, this is the first
[12:58] interview that you've done in almost two
[13:00] years.
[13:02] >> And you have millions of people that
[13:04] follow you online, millions of people
[13:05] that listen to your podcast and have for
[13:07] 10 years. Um
[13:10] what happened?
[13:12] >> Uh well the big thing that happened I
[13:15] had two what I would call we'll call
[13:16] them cardiac events. Um and uh that was
[13:23] God awakening me like shake like okay
[13:25] you're not going to hear what I'm
[13:26] telling you. You're not going to slow
[13:27] down. We're going to physically slow you
[13:29] down. But the other part of it Mel
[13:31] honestly was that uh during that exact
[13:33] same time though I was already
[13:34] evaluating what do I really want
[13:36] anymore? We had dinner the other night
[13:37] and I'm like gosh I say yes to a lot of
[13:40] dinner and then it's the night of the
[13:41] dinner and you're like we I wouldn't be
[13:43] brokenhearted if they canceled. You know
[13:45] what I'm saying? Like there's so many
[13:46] things in my life that this I really am
[13:49] on this thing now where I don't think
[13:51] success is about adding more. People are
[13:53] tired. They're tired. They're fatigued.
[13:56] And what I'm saying is I don't think
[13:58] it's adding a bunch of stuff. I think
[14:00] it's making room for stuff.
[14:03] >> What's the difference?
[14:04] >> The difference is cleaning out your
[14:06] closet. We just moved and we had to
[14:07] clean I had to clean out my closet. I
[14:08] had all this stuff in my closet was
[14:10] loaded with all this stuff. Like 90% of
[14:12] the stuff I don't wear is weird is
[14:15] outdated. I'm keeping it around cuz it's
[14:17] going to come back someday. And once I
[14:20] like took all this stuff and it was very
[14:22] hard. I'm practically a hoarder. all
[14:23] this stuff out of I have like tennis
[14:25] shoes like 15 years old, very malodorous
[14:29] tennis shoes I'm never going to wear
[14:31] again but somehow if I lose the pair
[14:33] I've got I'm going to wear like it was
[14:34] silly and I got rid of a lot of it. I'm
[14:36] like wow first off this closet's way
[14:38] bigger than I remember it being and
[14:40] there's room now in my closet to add one
[14:43] or two things that are quite
[14:46] good-looking that I would actually wear.
[14:48] Once you start to eliminate thoughts
[14:50] that don't serve you, maybe a couple
[14:52] people, some relationships, maybe it's a
[14:54] habit or two you have. When you remove
[14:57] them, now you've created some space. Oh,
[14:59] now I can add one or two things that do
[15:02] serve me. So that was sort of the
[15:04] process for me. It also gives you some
[15:06] clarity like what matters now there's
[15:08] this space in my life to think and
[15:11] breathe and that and then by the way I
[15:13] know a lot of people like man I got to
[15:14] pay this bill. I've got this thing. I've
[15:16] got my kids to soccer. I've got my
[15:17] grandkids over here. I've got this. I
[15:19] 100% do that. That's why you got to
[15:22] fight even harder for clarity and space.
[15:24] >> And a lot of it, a lot of it is probably
[15:27] thoughts that ruminate in your mind that
[15:31] you have picked up that do not bring you
[15:33] peace. They bring you chaos, stress, and
[15:36] tension in your life. And it's giving
[15:38] yourself the gift of some spring
[15:40] cleaning of the closet of your mind. And
[15:42] most of this you're not going to take
[15:44] with you anyway. So evaluate it, audit
[15:47] it, give yourself, you can literally
[15:49] start a life over at any point you want.
[15:52] Even in the worst time, Wilma started
[15:55] her life over when it all was going
[15:57] away. She lost her home. She had lost
[16:00] the man of her dream. She had lost her
[16:01] life. It was almost over. And she went,
[16:03] "You know what? I'm going to create some
[16:05] space. I'm going to get rid of these
[16:06] feathers that don't serve me anymore."
[16:08] And I think it's such a crazy metaphor,
[16:10] but it literally allowed her to soar and
[16:12] to fly again in her life. It wasn't
[16:13] adding stuff. it was eliminating stuff.
[16:16] >> What I love about what you're sharing
[16:19] about the recent
[16:22] revelations that you've had
[16:24] >> is that there is so much that takes up
[16:27] space in your mind and in your life that
[16:31] actually isn't helpful.
[16:33] >> Yeah.
[16:33] >> And isn't important to you.
[16:35] >> Amen. That's right.
[16:37] >> So, if you were a huge worrier
[16:40] and still are,
[16:41] >> oh, I can help all the worriers.
[16:43] [laughter] So for the worrier that's
[16:45] listening that isn't even aware
[16:48] >> of how much space worrying
[16:52] >> is taking up.
[16:53] >> You mentioned that you have a sense of
[16:55] peace that you haven't had before.
[16:56] >> Yeah.
[16:57] >> What's the first thing that you could do
[17:00] >> if you're lost in your mind? You're
[17:02] behind enemy lines.
[17:03] >> I think the reason that I worry is my
[17:05] dad worried. And let me tell you the
[17:07] biggest reason why I stopped. I think
[17:10] with children things are caught not
[17:12] taught.
[17:14] I caught that from my old man and I
[17:17] decided once I had my cardiac events
[17:20] that um I no longer wanted my children
[17:22] to catch this from me. I think very few
[17:24] people will make changes for themselves.
[17:25] But they'll make big changes for the
[17:27] people that they love. And this way
[17:29] you're being this worrying you're doing
[17:31] this ruminating of thoughts that don't
[17:33] serve you. Just so you know, it doesn't
[17:35] just affect you. It's affecting your
[17:38] children. It's affecting your spouse.
[17:40] It's affecting everybody around you.
[17:42] There's a frequency to those thoughts
[17:43] and it's reducing the frequency. See, my
[17:46] dad's drinking. There was a lot of
[17:47] things wrong with my dad's drinking.
[17:49] Obviously, there's abuse that comes with
[17:50] it. But, you know, the number one thing,
[17:52] I told my dad this once he got sober. I
[17:54] used to worry about my dad.
[17:57] >> I'd worry about him. Is he going to come
[17:58] home? Is he going to be in a car
[18:00] accident? Are mom and dad going to get
[18:02] divorced? Is dad going to hurt himself?
[18:03] Is dad going to hurt anybody? So, from
[18:05] the age of a little boy, I learned to
[18:07] worry about my dad. Those of you that
[18:10] are worrying, okay, not only is it
[18:12] affecting you, it's affecting everybody
[18:14] around you. This is picked up. It is
[18:16] caught. It's not taught. And you can't
[18:18] hide it. And so, [snorts] the first
[18:20] thing I would tell you is if you won't
[18:21] do this for yourself, you need to do it
[18:22] for the people that are around you. And
[18:24] the the technique to stop worrying is to
[18:27] actually look back on your life and
[18:28] realize that 99% of the things you
[18:30] worried about never came to fruition,
[18:32] were never as bad as you did. Worrying
[18:35] allows you to live through an event
[18:36] multiple times. that even if it happened
[18:39] should only happen to you once. So even
[18:41] the 5% or 1% of the things I worried
[18:43] about Mel that actually did happen which
[18:46] I'm pretty sure I created them by
[18:48] worrying about them all of the time. I
[18:50] actually lived through them hundreds of
[18:52] times instead of the one time I had to.
[18:55] So I lived through it over and over and
[18:57] over again and then it happened and then
[18:58] I lived through it again. I used to
[19:00] think if I just worry about this enough
[19:02] it won't happen or when I get there I'll
[19:04] be prepared. Turns out that's not true.
[19:06] If crap's going to hit the fan, crap is
[19:08] hitting the fan. But I lived the bad
[19:10] events of my life hundreds of times as
[19:13] opposed to just the one time when it
[19:14] actually happened. So, not only did most
[19:16] of the stuff I worried about never
[19:17] happened, but when it did happen, it was
[19:20] hundreds of times my body, my spirit, my
[19:22] heart. Do you think it's by coincidence
[19:26] that this guy who worries all the time,
[19:28] who carries all this insecurities heart
[19:31] broke down in his early 50s? My heart
[19:35] broke down. I physically think my heart
[19:38] just could not take any more stress.
[19:42] Right when I wake up, first question I
[19:44] ask myself, what do I need to worry
[19:45] about today? What do I got to get done?
[19:47] What's what could what could go wrong
[19:49] today? This is someone who millions of
[19:51] people listen to better lives. But if
[19:54] I'm being honest, I was always moving
[19:57] away trying to get away from these
[19:59] worries. And I'm really happy to tell
[20:01] everybody that that can change and has
[20:03] changed for me. I I worry from time to
[20:05] time. That guy rears his head every once
[20:07] in a while, but I know to slap him back
[20:09] now pretty good by feeding him the
[20:11] thoughts that do serve him and writing
[20:13] down the ones that are silly and they
[20:15] lose their power over me.
[20:16] >> That's the tool.
[20:16] >> Yep. That's my tool.
[20:17] >> Like if you could literally go back in
[20:18] time and say, "Hey, dummy."
[20:19] >> Write it down.
[20:20] >> Just write down all this stuff in your
[20:22] head and you're going to see in the
[20:24] piece of paper how stupid half this
[20:26] stuff is.
[20:27] >> Um, not half, 98%.
[20:30] >> 98% in my case, 98%. I'm a professional
[20:33] worrier. Well, the best piece the best
[20:35] thing about this advice is it's free.
[20:36] You take out a piece of paper. Just
[20:38] write all the stuff keeping you awake at
[20:40] night. Notice how dumb half of it is.
[20:42] And then do you write down the things
[20:44] you want to believe?
[20:45] >> I do. I write down the things that I
[20:46] want to believe. Which which for me is I
[20:49] Well, Can I show you a prop on it? Sure.
[20:51] >> Okay. The number one way that I think
[20:52] you can shift yourself is that you have
[20:54] a in a thing inside of you called your
[20:56] identity.
[20:57] >> Okay.
[20:57] >> Okay. So, when I use that term God, you
[21:00] kind of weave in whatever your beliefs
[21:02] are. I believe next to God, the most
[21:04] powerful force in the world is to be
[21:06] consistent with the way you view you. So
[21:09] your identity is like your thoughts,
[21:10] beliefs, self-concept, etc. Here's what
[21:13] I found out about at least me.
[21:14] >> Okay.
[21:15] >> Okay. If that thing is set at 75°, like
[21:17] we're in the studio, it's probably about
[21:18] 75 in here right now.
[21:20] >> What externally what's going on does not
[21:23] dictate the temperature in here.
[21:25] >> This place is set at 75°. The external
[21:27] does not matter. I think it's probably
[21:29] about 85 degrees here today while while
[21:31] we're doing this. Oh, outside the
[21:32] studios.
[21:32] >> Yeah. Okay.
[21:33] >> Yeah. So, outside outside the studio,
[21:35] let's say it's 85°. That does not affect
[21:37] the temperature in here. Cuz what
[21:38] happens when the external happens? This
[21:40] thing turns the thermostat on, kicks the
[21:42] air conditioning on, and regulates it
[21:43] back to what it's set at. Okay? That's
[21:46] our lives. You have multiple thermostat
[21:50] settings in your life. You have one for
[21:51] love. You have one for peace. You have
[21:54] one for money. You have one for fitness.
[21:56] And whatever that thermostat setting is,
[21:58] that identity you have, you'll do
[22:00] everything in your power subconsciously
[22:02] and unconsciously to get your thermostat
[22:04] of your life back to that setting. So
[22:06] that's why so many times in life, you'll
[22:08] see people, they do pick up a new habit,
[22:09] they got a new tip on the show, they've
[22:11] listened to something, but if they're at
[22:13] 75 degrees, let's just say, of mental
[22:16] health,
[22:16] >> okay,
[22:17] >> that I'm going set at 75, and all of a
[22:18] sudden, man, I'm feeling some peace, I'm
[22:19] feeling some joy, I'm at 85, I'm at 90,
[22:21] I'm at 100, things are going great. If
[22:23] you don't change what you believe you're
[22:25] worth, if you don't adjust that
[22:27] thermostat setting to that 85 or 90,
[22:29] over time you will turn the air
[22:30] conditioner on of your life
[22:32] >> and you'll cool it back down to what you
[22:34] believe you deserve to get.
[22:36] >> There's one lead character in this
[22:37] sucker. You And if your thermostat
[22:40] setting of happiness is 75°, you can
[22:42] change all the external conditions you
[22:44] want. You're going to be at 75°. You
[22:46] will turn the air. By the way, you'll
[22:48] also turn the heater on if it gets
[22:49] really, really bad. You probably won't
[22:50] starve. you'll turn the heater on and
[22:52] get it back up to 75°. The key is
[22:55] adjusting what you believe you're worth,
[22:58] what you deserve in life. If you don't
[23:00] change these thermostat settings, it's
[23:01] everything. It's the governor. So, the
[23:03] reason I had my worried all the time, I
[23:05] got about a 50°ree peace thermostat most
[23:07] of my life. So, of course, no matter how
[23:08] good my life got, no matter what was
[23:10] going great, I'll find a way to get my
[23:13] stress. I'll find a way to get my worry.
[23:15] We all have like five, six emotions that
[23:18] are our dominant emotions.
[23:19] >> What are they? Well, there's different
[23:20] for each people. So, for me, I think my
[23:22] primary uh emotions are stress,
[23:26] worry, anxiety. Those were my dominant
[23:30] ones. And when I was younger, anger
[23:33] and so no matter what happened in a
[23:34] given week, I'll find, by the way, these
[23:36] emotions when we have them, even if they
[23:38] don't serve us, we're going to get them.
[23:39] Why? They're familiar. Our brains and
[23:42] our minds want to constantly move to
[23:44] what's familiar because it conserves
[23:46] energy. So the key thing for me in my
[23:48] life is I'm going to stop worrying about
[23:49] getting stuff.
[23:52] What are the things I want in my life to
[23:54] feel?
[23:56] >> I want to feel more peace. I want to
[23:59] feel more ecstasy, joy, bliss. I want to
[24:03] have more optimism in my life, abundance
[24:05] in my life. And I've made those my
[24:08] intentions.
[24:10] And over time, I shifted what my lens
[24:13] delivers to me. And so now my lens
[24:16] doesn't always deliver to me the
[24:18] familiar. I used to brag, I'm amazing
[24:20] under stress, man. You watch me under
[24:22] stress, I'll function. And at one point
[24:24] my wife goes, "Do you think that's
[24:25] because you constantly find a way to
[24:27] bring it into your life? No matter how
[24:28] good is doing, you got to find a way to
[24:30] get I was like, gosh, you know, you're
[24:32] really right. So these emotions that may
[24:34] be familiar don't serve us." Here's the
[24:36] good news. Your past doesn't equal your
[24:37] future. Writing down the emotions you
[24:40] want and the ones that you're most
[24:41] familiar with is really an incredible
[24:44] process in your life. You know, we
[24:45] haven't talked about this,
[24:47] >> but I had a very similar revelation
[24:51] where if I were to list the dominant
[24:54] emotions that I would feel any week, I
[24:56] would say this would be in my late 40s,
[24:58] like peak misery, it would be anger and
[25:01] frustration, anxiety, fear, jealousy,
[25:06] and
[25:09] I kind of need six because there was a
[25:10] lot of insecurity in there, but there
[25:12] was also this sense of I'm in it alone.
[25:15] like kind of that like I'm the I'm on
[25:18] the outside. I have to do this on my
[25:20] own. Nobody like there like it's all on
[25:22] me.
[25:23] >> How'd you change it?
[25:24] >> I you said that you either move toward
[25:28] the positive or you move away from the
[25:30] negative. If I use your thermostat
[25:33] example, which I'm just learning for the
[25:35] first time,
[25:37] what I would say is I got tired of
[25:40] freezing
[25:43] >> because I said to I don't want to be
[25:45] this person.
[25:46] >> Mhm. [clears throat]
[25:47] >> And I'm not stuck as this version of
[25:49] myself, but there is absolutely nobody
[25:51] that's going to do this for me and
[25:52] there's nobody stopping me from changing
[25:54] either. And so I love the analogy of the
[25:57] thermostat because if you realize that
[25:59] you're freezing in your life,
[26:01] >> Yeah.
[26:01] using this imagination to dial it up and
[26:05] then asking yourself if I'm at a 75 or
[26:07] an 80 or 90, what what are those
[26:09] emotions that I'm going to feel?
[26:12] >> And you could start there. And I think
[26:14] it's it goes back to also one of the
[26:15] things that you said that if you feel
[26:16] stuck or helpless in your life, go help
[26:19] somebody else. Yes.
[26:20] >> Because just the act of helping somebody
[26:22] else, opening a door, smiling, saying a
[26:24] silent prayer, whatever it may be,
[26:26] volunteering in your community, it gives
[26:29] you hope.
[26:30] >> Yes. that there's something more for
[26:32] you.
[26:32] >> Yes.
[26:33] >> And that's a very that's like the dial
[26:35] going up and showing you
[26:37] >> that something else is possible.
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[27:40] >> You know, I'm curious, Ed, you talked
[27:42] about your dad's sobriety.
[27:44] >> Um, you also write about it in your
[27:46] number one blockbuster, The Power of One
[27:49] More.
[27:50] >> How did that impact you, your dad
[27:53] getting sober? Uh, I I think when you
[27:56] grow up with any dysfunction, divorce,
[27:58] stress in your home, yelling, drugs,
[28:00] alcohol, which I had the combo. Um, not
[28:02] the divorce. My parents stayed married.
[28:05] You carry a little piece of it with you
[28:06] all your life. I'm driving to a little
[28:08] league game. My dad, who was an
[28:10] aggressive, I would even say I think I
[28:11] can say in my father's honor because he
[28:13] came a beautiful, wonderful man in
[28:15] sobriety. My father was I would even
[28:16] call him violent. And we're driving to a
[28:19] little league game. I'll never forget
[28:20] it, Mel. And my dad's crying driving the
[28:22] car. I'm looking at my dad like, "What
[28:24] the heck? What's going on here?" Pulls
[28:26] the car over. He's still tearing up and
[28:28] crying and not looking at me. And then
[28:30] he turns to me when he says one more.
[28:32] It's why and it always stayed with me.
[28:34] He goes, "Eddie," I said, "Yeah, daddy."
[28:36] He goes, "Uh, I'm going to try to get
[28:38] sober one more time."
[28:41] And he looks at me. I said, "You are?"
[28:44] He goes, "Yeah, son." And I said, "Dad,
[28:47] why would this be any different than the
[28:49] other times? you've tried a lot of
[28:51] times. And he goes, "Well, Eddie, I
[28:53] think sometimes in life, you got to give
[28:55] everything one more try." I think it's a
[28:58] huge lesson. Just because it hasn't
[29:00] happened before, you're one try away.
[29:03] And then he goes, I think this is a key
[29:05] to life. He goes, Eddie, he never said
[29:07] this before this day, Mel. He goes, I
[29:10] love you and you deserve a dad you can
[29:13] be proud of. That's why I'm going to try
[29:16] harder this time. What my dad did is he
[29:19] linked his love for me and my sisters
[29:22] and my mom to making this change in this
[29:25] decision. And I'm a believer that love
[29:28] is the most powerful of all emotions. It
[29:30] overrides fear. It overrides anxiety. It
[29:33] overrides stress. It overrides worry. If
[29:36] you want to make one of these changes in
[29:37] your life, you've got to link it to your
[29:39] love of someone else that you care
[29:42] about, your love for yourself or your
[29:44] love of God. And you link that. And if
[29:46] you could truly make that connection, it
[29:48] will be bigger than your fear. But if
[29:50] you don't link it to something bigger
[29:52] than that fear, bigger than that worry,
[29:54] bigger than that I'm not good enough,
[29:55] what are people going to think about me?
[29:56] What are they going to say? I'm probably
[29:58] going to fail again. I've always been
[29:59] average. I've always been ordinary.
[30:01] That's just who I am. If you don't link
[30:03] it to something bigger than that
[30:04] emotion, it's probably not going to
[30:06] happen. My dad finally anchored it to
[30:09] the love of his family. And that love,
[30:11] thank God, was greater than that
[30:13] addiction. was greater than that desire
[30:16] to go do something that didn't serve
[30:18] him. But the crazy part, when my dad got
[30:20] sober, he came back from rehab. He
[30:23] looked good. I went, "Dad, are you never
[30:25] going to drink again?" And he says to
[30:27] me, I'll never forget it, Mel. He goes,
[30:29] "I can't promise you that, son." And I
[30:32] remember feeling disappointed. He goes,
[30:33] "But Eddie, here's what I can tell you.
[30:35] I'm not going to drink for one more day
[30:38] at a time." And my dad stacked up those
[30:41] one more days the rest of his life.
[30:43] Never had another drink, never used
[30:45] another drug. Why does that matter? You
[30:47] don't have to make huge big decisions.
[30:50] You just got to decide for today. My dad
[30:53] every day made this decision. I'm not
[30:56] going to drink. I love my family more
[30:58] than I want to drink. It doesn't have to
[30:59] be this huge monumental thing. It's just
[31:02] today. It's just today. When my dad
[31:05] died, um I woke up in the middle of the
[31:07] night one night crying. Surprised me.
[31:10] And my wife's like, "What's going on?
[31:12] It's the fog of the night." And I'm
[31:13] like, "Someone helped daddy." She's
[31:14] like, "What are you saying?" And I said,
[31:16] "I just I can't believe I never dawned
[31:18] on me before." I'm like 52 years old. I
[31:20] go, "My dad didn't get sober alone.
[31:23] Someone helped my dad." And by the way,
[31:25] the night my dad got sober, he was going
[31:26] to take his life. I remember we were at
[31:29] the church, the police were looking to
[31:30] find my father. He was going to kill
[31:31] himself that night. And I said, "Someone
[31:34] intervened and helped my dad. They
[31:36] changed our whole family. They saved my
[31:38] dad's life. They saved our whole family.
[31:40] I'm probably kind of a speaker and a
[31:42] coach because of this person. They don't
[31:44] probably know I'm his son. The ripple
[31:46] effect of helping one human, my dad. I
[31:51] got to find him. And I found him. I
[31:54] found the guy. I can't tell you
[31:56] everything about him because there's
[31:57] it's an anonymous program my dad was in,
[31:58] but God's got a funny sense of humor. H
[32:00] humor. My name's Ed. Not a cool name. My
[32:03] dad's name's Edward. Not a cool name. My
[32:05] grandfather was Edward. This dude's name
[32:08] Ed.
[32:09] God's just up there laughing at all of
[32:11] us, right? That's not the coolest part
[32:13] of the story, Mel. Here's here's the
[32:14] cool part. What qualified this man to
[32:16] help my dad? What were his
[32:18] qualifications? You think he was a
[32:20] perfect resume, never sinned, never made
[32:23] a mistake?
[32:25] No. You know what his qualifications
[32:28] were? He was also a drunk. He had also
[32:31] been a drug addict. He had also been a
[32:33] liar. He also lived in the shadows. He
[32:36] had also carried shame. the majority of
[32:39] his life. The reason that that qualified
[32:42] him is you're most qualified in life to
[32:44] help the person you used to be.
[32:47] We think in life that our biggest
[32:49] setbacks, our biggest mistakes, our
[32:51] divorce, our financial mistake, heck, it
[32:55] may not even be any of that. We just
[32:56] think we're disqualified because we've
[32:58] always been average. We've always been
[33:00] invisible.
[33:03] And nothing could be further from the
[33:05] truth. Those are the very things that
[33:07] qualify you to help somebody else. And
[33:09] living a great life may not be on
[33:11] Instagram or having your own show or
[33:13] having an island or a jet. It might be
[33:15] like in a really quiet moment when no
[33:17] one's watching. You're helpful. That
[33:20] man, by the way, was only sober 31 days
[33:24] the day that he helped my dad. So, you
[33:26] don't have to have it all figured out.
[33:28] You don't have to have a whole big old
[33:29] plan. You don't have to know every
[33:31] single step. There's 12 steps in that
[33:33] program. This dude didn't even know what
[33:34] the fifth step was cuz he hadn't done it
[33:36] yet himself. You don't have to have it
[33:38] all figured out. What you have to have
[33:40] is a heart that says I want to help
[33:41] people and I'm not disqualified because
[33:44] of my mistakes or my setbacks or my
[33:46] failures. In fact, those are the very
[33:47] things that do qualify me. My dad went
[33:50] on to help about 4,000 people get sober
[33:52] himself because you're most qualified to
[33:53] help those you used to be. You start to
[33:55] look at your life very differently. What
[33:57] if all of this stuff has happened to
[34:00] literally prepare me for this decision
[34:03] I'm about to make to change my life?
[34:05] That I'm not going to hide from my
[34:06] failures or my screw-ups or my averess
[34:09] or my invisibility. It's actually what
[34:11] qualifies me the most to do something
[34:13] great in my life. And that's to help
[34:15] other people. And that's what you were
[34:16] born to do. It's the greatest lesson of
[34:18] my life is watching this Ed help my
[34:20] precious Ed so that I'm actually here
[34:22] today with you hopefully helping one
[34:23] person as well. That's the ripple
[34:25] effect. It is my most favorite thing
[34:27] that you say
[34:28] >> by far.
[34:29] >> You're [clears throat]
[34:30] most qualified to help the person you
[34:32] used to be.
[34:32] >> It's true.
[34:33] >> For the person who's listening that
[34:35] still is having trouble kind of
[34:38] believing that, what would you say to
[34:39] them? [gasps]
[34:41] >> That's the That's the biggest question
[34:42] in the world. I um I I will flip it on
[34:45] you. Then why else are you here?
[34:48] Then why else are you here? There's a
[34:50] reason that you're here. I'm I'm really
[34:52] good at this because I've screwed up so
[34:55] many things in my life. I'm immensely
[34:57] qualified. You want to talk about worry
[34:58] and screw up, I can do that. You want to
[34:59] talk about screwing up financially, we
[35:01] can do that. You want to talk about
[35:02] being a jerk, I'm qualified for that
[35:03] one, too. Like I can anger, whatever you
[35:05] want. Pick a topic. I'm pretty much I've
[35:07] messed it up. You know, the truth is
[35:09] those times in your life where you have
[35:10] helped someone or you did encourage
[35:12] somebody. You feel so good about
[35:14] yourself. You feel at home. you you
[35:17] can't worry, fear, or stress in the
[35:19] moments when you've made a difference
[35:21] for somebody else. So, you've already
[35:23] done this in your life and you're a good
[35:25] person and you don't give yourself
[35:27] enough credit for being a good person. I
[35:29] I'll tell you a quick thing. My mentor
[35:31] in my life was Wayne Dyer. If you don't
[35:33] know who he is, my friend listening to
[35:35] this, you should go look him up. But I'm
[35:37] running on a beach in Hawaii. I'm 30 and
[35:39] I'm kind of like doing okay in life. And
[35:42] I'm running down this beach. It's like
[35:43] 6:00 a.m. This guy's got no shirt on.
[35:45] He's running towards me. It's a bald
[35:46] guy, but he's got a hairy back. And I'm
[35:48] like, "Oh, I'm going to have to bump
[35:49] into this dude." And [snorts] I I avoid
[35:51] him and he runs by me and I'm like, "Oh
[35:53] my gosh, that was Wayne Dyer." Wayne
[35:56] Dyer would be like Mel Robbins right
[35:57] now. Right.
[35:58] >> That's not true. Wayne Dyer, are you
[36:00] kidding? Is like a legend. Didn't his
[36:02] What? His book sold like 40 million
[36:04] copies or something. Was it What is his
[36:06] book called?
[36:07] >> Yeah, the Let them Theory, I think. Um,
[36:09] but anyway, pretty much pretty much Mel
[36:11] Robbins right now. So anyway, so he runs
[36:13] right I think you just described you. So
[36:16] he runs right by me.
[36:17] >> I don't have a hairy back.
[36:19] >> You do not have
[36:19] >> I just waxed. That's why.
[36:21] >> Love it. [laughter] So he he I we're
[36:24] wearing Sony Walkman. That's how long
[36:26] ago it was. And I take my Walkman off
[36:28] and I go, "Dr. Dyer." And he stops and
[36:30] he turns around. He's got his
[36:31] headphones. He goes, "Yeah." I go, "You
[36:33] changed my life." And he goes, "I doubt
[36:36] that. I bet you changed your life, but
[36:39] how did I help?" That's what he said.
[36:42] And he walked towards me and we sat on
[36:44] the beach. Can you imagine this? And we
[36:46] watched the sun come up together. But
[36:48] here's the lesson from the conversation.
[36:50] At the end of it, he goes, "Ed, you're
[36:52] going to live a great life. In fact, I
[36:55] think you're going to change the world."
[36:57] Now, at the time, I'm thinking he has
[36:59] definitely never said this to anybody
[37:00] [laughter] else. Looking back, he may
[37:02] have said that to everybody. He said,
[37:04] "Ed, the reason you're going to have a
[37:05] great life and make a huge difference is
[37:07] you're a good man."
[37:10] and he stopped.
[37:12] He had blue eyes, very similar to my
[37:14] dad's.
[37:16] That was the first time, Mel, in my
[37:18] life, in 30 years at that time, someone
[37:20] gave me a compliment that I believed.
[37:24] You'd have told me I was talented or
[37:25] smart or I didn't believe any of that.
[37:28] But he said, "I think you're a good
[37:29] man." I kind of believed that. And he
[37:32] goes, "I want you to always get your
[37:33] confidence from your intentions, Ed. You
[37:36] intend to do good. When you walk into a
[37:39] big speech, focus on your intentions to
[37:41] help. When you walk into a one-on-one
[37:43] meeting, I want that confidence to come
[37:45] from you. Remind yourself, I intend to
[37:47] do good. I intend to make a difference.
[37:49] I my intentions are good. He goes, you
[37:51] should beam with confidence over your
[37:52] intentions and not your ability. And I
[37:55] got to tell you, walking into the
[37:57] podcast today, any speech, if you asked
[38:00] me, hey, you're so smart, you're so
[38:02] this, I'd come in here really insecure.
[38:05] But I feed myself with my intention. And
[38:07] I would say our friend listening to
[38:08] this, you know what? You can shift your
[38:10] confidence in an instant
[38:12] with your intentions. Remind yourself,
[38:14] you are a good person. You do want to
[38:16] make a difference. You do want to help.
[38:18] You should be beaming with confidence
[38:21] because of your intention. No, I didn't
[38:22] know. He's writing a book called The
[38:23] Power of Intentions literally at that
[38:25] time. But I have to tell you, I have
[38:26] walked through this life with all these
[38:28] insecurities and all these worries, but
[38:29] in the moments where I need it, I'm a
[38:31] pretty confident dude. What's really
[38:33] cool about that story is he was
[38:35] previewing the lesson that you learned
[38:37] when your dad died.
[38:38] >> That's Wow.
[38:49] I never thought about that.
[38:56] You're right.
[38:59] >> You are a good dude.
[39:05] I never thought about that.
[39:06] >> What comes up for you when you think
[39:08] about that?
[39:18] I I
[39:20] wish
[39:22] I would have
[39:25] given myself a lot more grace in my
[39:27] life. So, I did heed that lesson
[39:33] like in the big moments like before a
[39:36] podcast or a speech or whatever or
[39:39] business meeting or something,
[39:42] but not every day of my life. Not the
[39:45] majority of me walking around with me.
[39:48] Me walking around with me. I wish I
[39:50] would have given myself a whole lot more
[39:52] grace every day of my life. Just to
[39:53] remind myself, hey, you're a pretty good
[39:54] guy. Everything will be okay. and I
[39:57] didn't give myself that grace. And uh
[40:00] and as a consequence, I probably hurt
[40:02] people around me, probably hurt my
[40:04] friends. I'm sure all those
[40:05] relationships could have been a lot
[40:06] deeper had I been more present instead
[40:09] of worrying about all the things I was
[40:11] worried about all the time. So I did I I
[40:14] also just think of like I can't ever get
[40:16] one of those days back with my dad.
[40:18] Yeah,
[40:19] >> I would love to have just had more time
[40:20] with my dad and told my dad when he was
[40:24] here how much I love him, how proud I
[40:26] was of him, how much I cherished him.
[40:28] You know, there's so many times people
[40:30] we love, they just walk in a room, and
[40:32] you don't know when the last time
[40:33] they're going to walk in that room is.
[40:35] We act like they're going to keep
[40:36] walking in a room. My sister gave birth
[40:38] to twin identical boys about a year ago.
[40:42] Uh [snorts] Cashes and Justice,
[40:43] beautiful boys. And about an hour after
[40:46] something happened with Cashes.
[40:47] Something wasn't good. And the doctors
[40:50] came in and grabbed him.
[40:53] And uh
[40:56] about
[40:58] an hour later, they came back in and
[41:00] told us that he had passed.
[41:02] And um in fact, my sister named the twin
[41:06] that survived just us because now it's
[41:08] just us.
[41:10] >> We don't know how much time we have.
[41:13] Cash has got one hour. We all act like
[41:16] we're going to get around to being
[41:17] happier. I'll get around to telling my
[41:19] dad how much I love him. I'm going to
[41:22] get around to calling Mel and just
[41:24] saying, "Hey, are you okay?" I'll get
[41:25] around to it. I'll get around to giving
[41:26] myself some joy. I'll get around to
[41:28] having some peace. I'll get around to
[41:30] making that one memory in my life. I'll
[41:33] get around to it until you don't. You
[41:36] don't know when the last time someone's
[41:37] going to walk in a room that you love.
[41:38] You don't know when the last time is the
[41:40] last time. I should have just given
[41:42] myself the gift of fully enjoying it.
[41:44] Like this is awesome, isn't it? Let's
[41:46] just take it all in. Not like where do I
[41:48] got to go next? Well, what about this?
[41:50] You know what I'm saying? Just enjoy
[41:51] these moments.
[41:52] >> Yes.
[41:52] >> None of them that cost any money. None
[41:55] of the good ones have cost money.
[41:58] >> It doesn't cost any money. When my mom
[42:00] walks in a room, it doesn't cost any
[42:02] money to just have a great conversation
[42:04] with God alone. It costs nothing. And
[42:07] yet I'm waiting around to getting
[42:09] around, aren't we, in our life.
[42:11] >> Well, you're not anymore.
[42:13] >> I'm not anymore. And do it now.
[42:16] Do it now. Don't act like you've got
[42:18] forever. Like right now. Take some
[42:21] action on something we've talked about
[42:22] today. Like now. Like now. A small one.
[42:25] Take a step. Get some progress. Move the
[42:27] car a little. I can't teach you to drive
[42:28] a parked car. Get moving. Just do
[42:31] something. You gave the most powerful
[42:36] tool on the planet. And I want to make
[42:39] sure that as you're listening to Ed that
[42:41] you really grab this and you start to
[42:43] use it.
[42:44] When you double down on your good
[42:46] intentions, it doesn't mean you're
[42:48] always going to get it right.
[42:50] >> It doesn't mean you're going to succeed.
[42:52] >> It doesn't mean you won't inadvertently
[42:56] hurt people or piss them off because you
[42:58] don't do what they expect. But if you
[43:00] know your intentions and you know
[43:02] they're anchored in your values and
[43:04] doing the best that you can and trying
[43:06] to be a good person, that is the single
[43:10] best and most powerful way to start to
[43:13] build confidence in yourself. And I I
[43:17] have gotten to a point in my life where
[43:18] I used to be crippled by criticism or
[43:21] crippled by what people might think or
[43:23] crippled by public perception or
[43:24] crippled by what are my friends going to
[43:26] and really knowing myself and my
[43:30] intentions
[43:32] has allowed me to move through life in a
[43:34] way where I know who I am and I'm proud
[43:37] of myself and I know why I'm doing what
[43:39] I do. And if people criticize me, they
[43:44] clearly don't know my intentions.
[43:46] >> And that's the one thing that's why I
[43:47] think a lot of people make a little bit
[43:48] of progress and then the criticism comes
[43:50] and they're like, "Okay, I'll shrink my
[43:52] dream. I'll shrink myself back to your
[43:54] small thinking."
[43:55] >> Yes. This goes to the thermostat. You
[43:57] start to feel the pressure from, are you
[43:58] sure you want to like not drink? Are you
[44:00] sure you want to work on that business
[44:01] this weekend? You sure you want to go
[44:02] for that run instead of just hanging
[44:04] here with me and watching the game?
[44:05] >> Exactly. Yeah. Who do you think you are?
[44:07] >> Yes.
[44:07] >> All of a sudden, you're happy. Oh, now
[44:09] you're the fitness expert, huh? And at
[44:11] some point in our in a great life, you
[44:13] decide, I will not shrink myself for
[44:15] your acceptance. Because this life isn't
[44:17] about your acceptance. You're it's my
[44:19] own acceptance. It's God's acceptance.
[44:21] You know, the number one impact on your
[44:22] thermostat setting associations.
[44:25] If your five best friends eat really
[44:27] clean, you know, drink a bunch of water,
[44:30] take a walk every day, do some
[44:31] stretching, if that were the five people
[44:33] you around, you're probably going to be
[44:35] a little bit more fit, right? So, so the
[44:37] number one thing that dials that
[44:38] thermostat down is who you're around.
[44:40] And so, if you have to be around these
[44:42] people that don't serve you, you have to
[44:44] find a way that your self-worth is not
[44:45] connected to their approval. And it's a
[44:48] biggie.
[44:48] >> It's like a snake shedding a skin.
[44:51] >> Mhm.
[44:51] >> That's why it feels really awful to step
[44:54] into a new chapter of your life because
[44:55] there are parts of you that you're
[44:57] shedding. M.
[44:58] >> And so I want to go back to intention
[45:00] because the more you know thyself and
[45:03] you know your intentions and you know
[45:05] the background and you know what you've
[45:06] put into it and you know why you're
[45:09] doing something.
[45:11] You're the only person's opinion that
[45:13] actually matters.
[45:14] >> Yeah. I love the way you just said that.
[45:16] That's the crazy thing. It's so true.
[45:19] If you were to, you know, in the
[45:20] millions of people that you've coached
[45:22] and inspired and the mega bestseller
[45:25] that you've written,
[45:26] >> if you could recommend one habit that
[45:29] really has that domino effect for
[45:31] somebody, if they're listening to you
[45:32] and they're like, "Okay, you're right,
[45:34] Ed.
[45:34] >> For me, it's moving my body early in the
[45:36] day." Okay,
[45:37] >> it's just a really simple thing. When I
[45:39] move my body early in the day, that is a
[45:42] catalyst habit for me because I don't
[45:44] like to do it. I've lifted weights for
[45:46] 35 years. I've enjoyed maybe seven of
[45:48] those days, but I've enjoyed walking out
[45:51] of the gym when I'm done almost every
[45:53] single time once I've accomplished it.
[45:55] So, to me, why does that matter? It's
[45:58] one of the few areas of my life I can
[46:00] control. I can't control whether someone
[46:02] shows up for the meeting. I can't
[46:03] control whether we close a sale. I can't
[46:05] control how somebody feels about
[46:06] something. I can't control I can control
[46:09] that I got up and I moved my body. It
[46:11] gives me energy. It also says to me, I'm
[46:14] willing to do something most people
[46:15] aren't willing to do. So maybe I'm going
[46:17] to get things most people aren't going
[46:19] to get. So my catalyst habit is that my
[46:23] new one, I'll give you my new one. My
[46:24] new one is writing. I don't like to
[46:27] write. I'm not a good writer. And I used
[46:29] to use that as an excuse. I'm not good
[46:30] at this. I'm not good at this. People
[46:31] use as an excuse. So what? I have to get
[46:33] good at it because guess what happens
[46:35] when I write? It's a form of
[46:36] self-expression. I get things on paper
[46:38] that tell me, hey, what you're doing
[46:39] with that worry you have is completely
[46:41] dumb and you're you're wasting time on.
[46:43] It's not real. But it's also like in our
[46:46] industry because I've got better at
[46:47] writing, it's stimulated more prayer.
[46:50] It's stimulated more uh thinking of
[46:53] content of things I can share on shows,
[46:56] things I can put in books. But that
[46:58] moment of peace with my my cup of coffee
[47:00] in front of me and I just write and it's
[47:02] become for me like a great cathartic
[47:05] form of expression of me just getting
[47:07] out of my head and onto this piece of
[47:10] paper.
[47:10] >> How does writing create peace in your
[47:13] mind?
[47:14] >> Okay, I'll tell you for me
[47:15] >> and I want you to put me at the scene.
[47:17] >> I'm just candidly I get up and I get out
[47:19] of my bed and I get on my knees and I
[47:21] get on my knees and it's usually between
[47:22] 30 seconds and 3 minutes and it's just
[47:24] some prayer time. It gives me
[47:25] perspective. So, I do that and then for
[47:28] me, I go do my workout first because
[47:29] it's the thing I don't want to do the
[47:31] most in the world. And then I get my cup
[47:33] of coffee and I sit down and I sit in
[47:35] the same spot. By the way, I think that
[47:37] spot after you do it for a while becomes
[47:39] a trigger
[47:40] >> becomes an anchor to a particular state
[47:41] of mind. So, I do sit in the same spot
[47:44] and I have my cup of coffee and I begin
[47:46] to write. It's usually about 30 minutes.
[47:48] And my thing is I have to write within
[47:49] one minute. I have to put something on
[47:52] that paper. Some mornings it's a worry
[47:53] that I have, but it's going to be on
[47:54] that paper within a minute. And I do do
[47:56] this now. I can honestly say every day.
[48:00] >> How has it changed your mindset and
[48:02] worry and anxiety like this anchor
[48:04] practice?
[48:05] >> It's a great release for me. And I
[48:07] actually just write to one person. So
[48:09] different days I pick different people.
[48:11] Some days I may be writing to me in my
[48:14] current state of life. Some days I'm
[48:15] writing to young me. Some days I'm
[48:17] writing to my children. I'm into this
[48:19] new thing where I observe people and I'm
[48:21] in love with a particular person that I
[48:23] can't take my eyes off of and it started
[48:25] about four years ago. I had a flight
[48:27] canled and I was stuck in a delay in the
[48:30] airport.
[48:31] My eye caught this woman. I probably
[48:34] can't get through this without telling
[48:35] you this, but I write to her a lot. I
[48:37] noticed her and she um she was wheeling
[48:40] a trash can around and she was picking
[48:42] up the trash around the airport and
[48:44] going in and cleaning the bathrooms and
[48:46] I watched her and I could not take my
[48:48] eyes off her. Remember there's thousands
[48:50] of people walking around her and I just
[48:53] started to think about her life.
[48:56] She looked to me to be in her late 60s.
[49:00] I just projected her life in my mind.
[49:02] But she got up that morning,
[49:06] probably in an apartment,
[49:09] probably by herself.
[49:12] And she got up in the dark cuz that's
[49:14] when she gets up. She made herself a
[49:16] little breakfast.
[49:19] Her big hope for the day is maybe her
[49:20] kids will call.
[49:22] >> Maybe her grandchildren will call her.
[49:25] And uh long ago, she had dreams in her
[49:28] life.
[49:30] And just in my mind, this man she loved
[49:32] left.
[49:34] He left.
[49:36] And she stayed and finished raising
[49:38] those kids. And all these hopes and
[49:40] dreams she had for her life, they didn't
[49:43] all come together the way she hoped. She
[49:45] prays every morning. She loves God.
[49:48] She's never hurt a soul. She got up that
[49:50] morning. She got in her car in the dark
[49:52] and she drove to a parking lot. She then
[49:54] has to get on a bus to get to the
[49:56] airport with a bunch of other people in
[49:58] there that maybe that day is not their
[50:00] dream day. No one says hello to her. No
[50:03] one acknowledges her. They give her a
[50:04] name badge. They assign her her trash
[50:07] can for the day. They send her off into
[50:09] the airport. And all day long, no one
[50:11] sees her.
[50:13] She's tired. She's weary.
[50:18] No one says hello. No one says I love
[50:21] you. No one says great job. Meanwhile,
[50:24] around her, everybody's on their way to
[50:26] their dream vacation, their big business
[50:28] meeting. They're chasing their dreams in
[50:30] their life. She goes her whole day
[50:32] invisible. And at the end of the day,
[50:35] she brings her trash can back, puts the
[50:38] name badge on, gets back in her car,
[50:40] drives home, and she's just hoping her
[50:41] kids call.
[50:43] She's hoping her grandbabies might call
[50:44] her tonight. She's going to get up and
[50:46] do that again. I thought
[50:49] how resilient she is.
[50:52] She doesn't complain. She just gets up
[50:55] every day and does what she can to make
[50:57] her life better.
[50:59] So, like you would do or anybody would
[51:00] do, I just walked over. And you know
[51:02] what I found out, by the way? She's
[51:04] everywhere.
[51:06] She cleaned your hotel room this
[51:07] morning.
[51:10] She's a he today, too. He got in a truck
[51:12] this morning to go somewhere to pay the
[51:15] bills for his family. Maybe he's not
[51:17] going exactly where he thought he was
[51:18] going to be going 20 years ago. He just
[51:21] wants his wife to be proud of him. He
[51:23] just wants to be his kid's hero. And he
[51:25] doesn't feel great about himself right
[51:26] now. And he wants to be happier. And he
[51:28] wants to That's who I'm writing to now.
[51:31] I want to tell him, "I love you. It's
[51:33] not too late. It's not over yet. You
[51:36] have value. You matter. You know, the
[51:39] hero of my family, Mel, isn't my dad,
[51:41] who I write about all the time. It's my
[51:43] mom. My mom's the one whose husband was
[51:47] gone many nights, and she's the one who
[51:49] did homework with us. And I never knew
[51:50] anything was wrong. She's the one that
[51:52] went to bed most of those nights when my
[51:53] dad was out somewhere. It still made us
[51:56] lunch for the next day, got up and made
[51:57] us breakfast, took us to school, made us
[52:00] feel safe. She got no credit for that.
[52:03] No credit. But she held our family
[52:04] together. She was the glue. A lot of
[52:07] these people are the glue in their
[52:09] family. They were the strength. They
[52:10] were the quiet person who held that
[52:13] family together the entire time. I want
[52:15] to write to them. I want to say to them,
[52:17] it's not over. You matter. You're a good
[52:20] person. Good things come from you.
[52:23] People say, "It's too late. It's over. I
[52:24] didn't make it." In many people's cases,
[52:27] it may be a little bit from now before
[52:29] anybody really appreciates what you've
[52:30] done. But at some point, I promise you,
[52:32] the people that love you, it took me a
[52:34] long time to figure out, "My dad's not
[52:36] the hero of our family. It's my mom. She
[52:38] didn't make any of the mistakes. She
[52:40] didn't make any of the noise. She just
[52:42] loved us. She just served us every day
[52:44] quietly, and got no credit. These are
[52:47] the heroes. These are the people that I
[52:50] want to write to, to give hope to, to
[52:52] give the tools to, and just to say,
[52:53] "Hey, I see you.
[52:55] >> You're not invisible. It's not too late.
[52:56] You're not disqualified. You're
[52:58] immensely qualified." And you're
[52:59] changing people's lives probably more
[53:01] often every day than you realize. And
[53:03] you don't earn your way into heaven. You
[53:05] just got to get there. Whatever you
[53:06] believe about that, but you earn the
[53:08] line of people waiting to thank you when
[53:10] you get there. And people like my mom
[53:13] and like Griselda, that was her name. Uh
[53:16] there's a long line of people that'll be
[53:18] thanking them someday. So I want to
[53:20] write to them. I picture her a lot when
[53:22] I write.
[53:22] >> What are you saying to her or or to him,
[53:24] the guy driving the truck? What do you
[53:26] say to the person who's listening that
[53:27] really resonates with that? Because I
[53:30] could see myself in scenes of my own
[53:33] life.
[53:34] >> I could see my parents. I could see my
[53:36] grandparents. Like I [clears throat]
[53:37] often look at people when you're at a
[53:39] stoplight and I wonder where are they
[53:41] driving?
[53:42] >> So do I.
[53:42] >> What job are they going to? What are
[53:44] they thinking about right now? like what
[53:45] struggles do they have? What dreams have
[53:47] they given up on? What do you say to
[53:49] people?
[53:50] >> I do too, Mel. It's caused me to really
[53:52] see people. First off, the great gift of
[53:54] it is with everybody I'm with, I think I
[53:56] spend a little longer seeing them and a
[54:00] little less trying to make an impression
[54:01] on them.
[54:04] I used to walk in a room and go, "Here I
[54:05] am." [laughter]
[54:07] Now I tend to walk in a room and go,
[54:08] "There you are." M
[54:10] >> and um what I write to them is that
[54:13] you're making a bigger difference in the
[54:14] world than you give yourself credit for.
[54:17] And
[54:19] like my mom,
[54:28] that's who I am.
[54:30] Like if there is goodness in me, that
[54:33] good me I got from her. I caught that.
[54:38] She never taught it. She never got on a
[54:39] soap box and said, "I just watched it
[54:41] every day." And I think so many of these
[54:45] people in life need to know. One, it's
[54:47] not too late.
[54:49] And there is a dream and a memory in
[54:51] your life coming. And you deserve it.
[54:55] And what we have to do is to get you to
[54:58] love yourself without conditions so that
[55:00] we can change that thermostat setting.
[55:02] And the more that I can write to them
[55:03] and say, "Just so you know, what you're
[55:06] doing is the most important thing, which
[55:08] is helping the people you love the most.
[55:10] What a world-class father you are. What
[55:13] a worldclass mother you are." Those are
[55:15] the most important things in life. And
[55:17] from there, you can build something
[55:19] great. We have to change this. What
[55:21] happens with these folks that we love so
[55:23] much is their self-love is all it
[55:27] becomes conditional.
[55:29] And unless they're achieving, unless
[55:31] they're growing, they don't give
[55:32] themselves the gift of the grace of
[55:33] loving themselves like they should have.
[55:34] I can't believe we've gone this deep
[55:36] today, by the way, this many times. And
[55:38] I want them to know that the the the
[55:40] chance for you in your life to make a
[55:41] difference in your life is to
[55:42] acknowledge the good things you've
[55:44] already done and to stop highlighting
[55:46] all the time. The highlight reel of your
[55:48] life is not your mistakes. It's not your
[55:50] setbacks. It's not who left. It's not
[55:51] who betrayed you. It's the fact that
[55:54] you're still standing after they did.
[55:57] This thing you're carrying with you is
[55:59] what makes you special. You're still
[56:01] standing. And the fact that it's been so
[56:03] difficult and you've carried it with
[56:05] such grace, with such honor, you didn't
[56:07] return the favor. You didn't return the
[56:09] betrayal. You didn't return the hurt.
[56:12] You just got up every day and did what
[56:14] you needed to do. And that makes you
[56:15] incredible. And it's not too late. We
[56:18] can build from that place that you're at
[56:19] right now if you'll acknowledge it. And
[56:21] I want to write to them. That's all I
[56:22] want you want to write to now,
[56:25] >> you know. Um, Ed, I not only think
[56:28] you're a good man, I think you're a
[56:30] worldclass human.
[56:32] >> Thank you.
[56:33] >> Who is changing the world for the
[56:34] better.
[56:34] >> Oh, thank you.
[56:35] >> And I'm proud to be your friend.
[56:37] >> I love you. I'm proud of you. Thank you.
[56:40] >> What are your parting words?
[56:42] >> I just want to remind you that you were
[56:44] born to do something great with your
[56:46] life. You were. Um, when I was a little
[56:50] guy, my grandfather would pick me up. My
[56:53] remember my dad's missing. My
[56:54] grandfather would pick me up and he had
[56:56] this blue van.
[56:59] And my grandfather worked for the Boston
[57:01] Globe. He was a pressman, okay? And so
[57:03] he would pick me up on Sundays and we'd
[57:05] go get donuts and pick them up for my
[57:06] other cousins, but I was the oldest
[57:08] cousin. So he'd pick me up, we're
[57:09] driving in the van, and I would just
[57:10] look at Papa, this big guy. And he would
[57:12] look down at me when he was driving.
[57:14] He'd go, "Eddie." I go, "Yeah, Big
[57:16] Papa." He goes, "You're going to do
[57:18] something great with your life." And I
[57:20] go, "I am Big Papa." He goes, "Oh,
[57:23] you're going to do something awesome.
[57:24] You're my favorite. You're my favorite."
[57:27] And every time one of my cousins was
[57:28] born, he'd call me. He goes, "Oh, hey,
[57:30] cousin Peter was born." And I'd start to
[57:32] feel kind of jealous. And he go, "Hey,
[57:33] don't tell anybody." I go, "What papa?"
[57:35] He goes, "You're my favorite."
[57:38] And I say that to you because if you had
[57:40] anybody in your life when you were a
[57:41] child who believed in you, anybody, your
[57:44] mom, your dad, a grandparent, a coach,
[57:47] whatever, they just looked at you.
[57:48] Remember them? You just felt special.
[57:51] You felt safe when you were with them.
[57:53] Remember that person? Most of you have
[57:56] that person in your life. My final
[57:59] message to you is that they were right.
[58:02] Maybe everybody else missed it, but they
[58:05] were right. They were right about you.
[58:08] And my challenge to you would be make
[58:10] them proud of you. Make them proud of
[58:13] you. If they're still here, you still
[58:14] have time to show them. If they're gone,
[58:18] honor them with the person you're
[58:20] becoming every day with the choices you
[58:22] make. Make them proud of your
[58:23] resilience. Make them proud of your
[58:25] toughness. And if you never had that
[58:26] person, I apply for the position. And I
[58:30] can promise you, whatever your faith
[58:32] beliefs are,
[58:34] God looks at you with so much pride, so
[58:37] much joy, so much belief, so much love.
[58:41] And there's time left for you.
[58:43] >> There's time still left on the clock.
[58:45] And all these mistakes, all these
[58:46] setbacks, all these hurts, all the pain,
[58:51] all of those things were qualifying you
[58:53] to do something great because you are
[58:55] most qualified to help that person you
[58:57] used to be. And there's somebody
[59:00] somewhere who needs you so badly. Start
[59:03] looking for them. You're one person, one
[59:05] decision away from totally changing your
[59:08] life. So start looking for it.
[59:11] >> Ed Milelet, I love you.
[59:14] >> I love you. I absolutely love you. I am
[59:16] so proud of you and I knew you as Max
[59:21] out Ed. [laughter] I knew you preheart
[59:24] attack and I got to say this is the best
[59:28] you ever.
[59:29] >> Oh, thank you. Wow. [laughter] That
[59:32] means a lot coming from you, Mel. So,
[59:33] thank you.
[59:33] >> No, I mean it like that I I always felt
[59:36] the oozing goodness coming out of you,
[59:39] but there is this expanded capacity and
[59:42] depth.
[59:44] and way that you're showing up. That is
[59:47] absolutely incredible.
[59:49] >> Thank you.
[59:49] >> Life-changing.
[59:51] >> Thank you. I am here to help you help
[59:54] people and um that means the world to me
[59:56] coming from you. There's very few people
[59:58] like we've both said whose opinions
[1:00:00] matter and uh yours matters very deeply
[1:00:03] to me. Thank you so much. I loved today.
[1:00:05] This exceeded my expectations. So, thank
[1:00:07] you.
[1:00:07] >> Well, um we went deep because that's the
[1:00:10] kind of friends we are.
[1:00:11] >> Yeah. Thank you. And I also want to
[1:00:13] thank you. Thank you for making the time
[1:00:16] and spending it with me and Ed. Isn't he
[1:00:18] just a treasure? I hope you will share
[1:00:20] this with people in your life that you
[1:00:22] love. And you're going to do something
[1:00:25] great with your life. And I know you are
[1:00:27] because you're going to take everything
[1:00:28] that Ed poured into you to heart. And
[1:00:30] you are going to use the tools. And you
[1:00:32] are going to continue to remind yourself
[1:00:35] that you're a good person and good
[1:00:37] things are going to happen because
[1:00:38] you're going to make them happen. And in
[1:00:40] case nobody else tells you today as your
[1:00:41] friend, I wanted to be sure to tell you
[1:00:43] that I love you and I believe in you and
[1:00:44] I believe in your ability to create a
[1:00:46] better life. And there is no doubt in my
[1:00:48] mind that everything that Ed shared with
[1:00:50] you was exactly what you were meant to
[1:00:52] hear at this exact moment in your life.
[1:00:56] So please just honor it as a blessing
[1:00:59] that was given to you. And thank you for
[1:01:01] watching all the way to the end. I
[1:01:03] really love being here with you. Wasn't
[1:01:05] that extraordinary? Thanks for being so
[1:01:07] generous with that for being a
[1:01:08] subscriber. [music] All right, I know
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