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[0:05] Om Asato Ma Sadgamaya Tamaso Ma Jyotir
Gamaya Mrityur Ma Amritam Gamaya
[0:26] Om Shanti Shanti Shanti. Om, lead us from the unreal
to the real, lead us from darkness
[0:36] to light,
lead us from death to immortality.
[0:40] Om, peace, peace, peace.
[0:47] Namaste and welcome back everybody.
[0:50] We are starting our fall session.
[0:53] I am
actually surprised, so many brave souls.
[0:57] I thought the weather would put off
many people
[0:59] from turning up but we have a full house.
[1:04] We are especially delighted
and honoured to welcome
[1:08] Swami Ishadhyananandaji who is a monk
from our Vedanta Society in Sacramento.
[1:15] He is here on a special assignment.
[1:18] He is speaking at
the Vivekananda Vidyapith in New Jersey.
[1:22] But we are delighted to have him here
with us this Sunday morning
[1:25] when we reopen.
[1:27] The subject
this morning you might have seen
[1:31] is finding the infinite in the ordinary.
[1:36] Maharaj will recall when we became monks
we took a vow to speak about the vast,
[1:43] the great,
not to speak about petty things.
[1:46] Brihadvadhemasu Viraha.
[1:48] Let us speak now, from now on let
us speak of the vast, of the great.
[1:55] Finding the infinite in the ordinary,
what do you mean by the infinite
[2:01] and why look for it in the ordinary?
[2:05] A couple of months back just
before we closed for summer, there was
[2:09] a conference in Stony Brook University
on Vedanta and a professor
[2:16] from Brazil no less, he characterized,
he gave a wonderful characterization
[2:22] of Vedanta
as an extraordinary clarification
[2:26] of ordinary experience and I loved that.
[2:29] I have been repeating it
all summer all over the world.
[2:34] I saw literally went from, I flew from
New York to London to Australia and
[2:40] New Zealand
and from there came back to New York.
[2:43] So literally around the world
wherever I went often I would say
[2:46] this extraordinary clarification
of ordinary experience.
[2:51] Now right at the outset the extraordinary,
the divine, the spiritual, the infinite,
[2:56] it is available
in extraordinary experience
[2:58] there's no doubt about it.
[3:00] Saints and sages and mystics
throughout the ages
[3:03] in every spiritual tradition have had
extraordinary experiences
[3:07] which have proved to them the truth
of the claims of religion that God exists,
[3:13] that our true nature is
spiritual not material
[3:16] in extraordinary experiences.
[3:19] But the problem
with extraordinary experiences is
[3:21] they are extraordinary,
they are rare and they can be doubted.
[3:26] What we have is ordinary experience
and the grand beauty of Vedanta is
[3:33] that it is
accessible to us right here, right now.
[3:38] The infinite is available to us not only
in extraordinary experiences
[3:43] but in ordinary experiences.
[3:45] One might as well say, you know I am having
an ordinary experience, a very wet
[3:52] and windy kind of ordinary experience.
[3:54] Where is the infinite here?
[3:55] There's nothing infinite here,
everything is finite,
[3:57] everything is changeful,
everything is just life.
[4:02] It requires
an extraordinary clarification.
[4:05] That's what
we will attempt to do this morning,
[4:07] nothing less.
[4:08] We're going to discover the infinite.
[4:11] Discovering the infinite
requires us to uncover it.
[4:14] It's already here
[4:15] but it's covered up
by the veil of the finite.
[4:18] We're going to dig into it.
Mine for the infinite, not crypto.
[4:22] We're going to mine for the infinite now.
[4:27] What do you mean by the infinite?
[4:29] Vedanta has a very precise understanding
of it, a very grand understanding.
[4:34] When we start up and we look into Vedanta,
it's talking about Brahman,
[4:37] the Sanskrit word
Brahman which means the vast.
[4:40] The literal, the etymological
if you go into it, the word
[4:43] Brahman comes from the root brin-hadhatu
which is which means to expand without
[4:48] limit, swell without limit, the vast.
[4:52] When we look into what
Vedanta is saying about
[4:57] ultimate reality, it is so grand
[5:01] and it's so deeply philosophical,
so high and seems so abstract.
[5:07] Just now you're hearing
the beautiful refrain.
[5:10] This is from the Taittiriya Upanishad.
[5:13] What is that ultimate reality?
[5:14] Satyam jnanam anantam brahma.
[5:17] As we were singing right now, existence
or being, reality, that is Brahman.
[5:23] Jnanam, knowledge or consciousness,
awareness, that is Brahman.
[5:28] And limitless being
and limitless consciousness,
[5:31] that is Brahman.
[5:32] Satyam jnanam anantam.
[5:35] Reality, consciousness,
limitless, that is Brahman.
[5:39] So abstract and so philosophical.
[5:43] It struck me sometime
a couple of years ago
[5:46] that the greatest questions that we ask in
philosophy, there are three branches
[5:53] of philosophy, each based on
one of those great questions.
[5:57] The deepest questions that
we have ever asked ever
[5:59] in any civilization.
[6:03] One question is what is real?
[6:06] The question about reality.
[6:07] What's the truth here?
[6:08] What's the reality?
[6:09] Is matter real?
[6:10] Is energy real?
[6:10] Are quarks real?
[6:12] Is Harry Potter real?
[6:14] Is the number one real?
[6:17] What's reality?
[6:18] Is God real?
[6:19] Is mind real?
[6:21] What is reality?
[6:23] What is reality?
[6:24] What is appearance?
[6:25] When we ask these questions about reality,
about being, the subject, the branch
[6:31] of philosophy which deals with
these questions is called metaphysics.
[6:35] Used to be.
[6:36] Now there's a new name,
a more fancy name, ontology.
[6:39] Ontos from the being, from existence.
[6:42] So ontology.
[6:43] And then there is another question
which comes immediately
[6:46] after we make ontological claims.
[6:49] You know, God is real or heaven
is real or super strings are real.
[6:53] Immediately the question
will come, the question of knowledge.
[6:56] How do you know?
[6:58] On what basis are you saying these things?
[7:01] A question about knowledge.
[7:02] How did you know anything?
[7:03] How did you know these things?
[7:04] That branch of philosophy
which is necessary, which goes immediately
[7:08] with ontology is called epistemology.
[7:11] Knowledge, the study of knowledge.
[7:13] Any kind of knowledge.
[7:17] Epistemology, how do you know anything?
[7:19] And finally there's another branch
of philosophy called axiology.
[7:23] It's not a common term
but what it means is the study of values.
[7:28] What is right?
[7:29] What is wrong?
[7:30] What used to be called morality or ethics?
[7:32] It's part of axiology.
[7:34] What is the point of it all?
[7:36] You can talk about the infinite, ordinary,
extraordinary but what is it to me?
[7:41] What do I get out of all?
[7:42] What do I get out of this whole deal?
[7:45] What's the point of it?
[7:46] What's the goal?
[7:47] Is there any goal?
[7:48] Is there anything
that we can expect in life?
[7:51] What's the point of the universe?
[7:52] What's the point of life?
[7:54] Aesthetics, beauty, all of these are under
one head called axiology.
[8:00] Now it struck me a couple of years ago,
our understanding of the infinite
[8:05] in Vedanta is
an answer to these three questions.
[8:09] What is ultimately real?
[8:12] What's reality itself?
[8:13] And Vedanta has a bold, all the way back
to the Upanishads,
[8:16] five thousand years ago, straightforward,
direct, bold answer which
[8:21] we just heard in melodious music now.
[8:23] Sat or Satyam, being itself,
existence itself is reality.
[8:29] Now what it means, we'll investigate,
but existence itself is reality.
[8:33] Existence, being, is-ness,
that is the ultimate reality.
[8:38] How do you know anything?
[8:40] The question of knowledge,
epistemological question.
[8:44] And again a bold answer
from all the way back to the Upanishads.
[8:49] Chaitanyam, consciousness.
[8:51] We experience, we know,
experience is possible,
[8:54] knowledge is possible
because of consciousness.
[8:57] Chit, in Sanskrit, consciousness.
[9:00] And then is there a point to it?
[9:02] What can we expect in life?
[9:03] What are we chasing?
[9:04] What's good?
[9:05] What's worth having?
[9:07] What's the value point of all of this?
[9:09] And again a bold
and direct answer from the Upanishads.
[9:13] Ananda, bliss.
[9:17] So existence, consciousness, bliss.
[9:20] Sat, chit, ananda.
[9:22] These are the answers
and this is how we define Brahman.
[9:25] This is
how we characterize the ultimate reality.
[9:28] But it struck me that these are actually
the answers
[9:32] to the deepest questions of philosophy.
[9:34] The greatest questions
that we have ever asked.
[9:37] Sat, chit, ananda.
[9:39] The answers to the questions,
the metaphysical, ontological question
[9:42] about reality,
the epistemological question
[9:44] about knowledge
and the axiological question about value,
[9:48] the point of it all,
the purpose of it all.
[9:52] Sat, chit, ananda.
[9:53] This is just the beginning.
[9:55] Vedanta goes on to make
an even more bold claim that this sat,
[9:59] chit, ananda,
these are not three different things.
[10:02] They are one thing.
[10:04] There is one reality,
that ultimate reality which gives reality
[10:08] to the entire universe.
[10:09] It's the reality
of our entire universe and ourselves.
[10:13] And that makes possible
all experience which we have.
[10:16] The experience which
we are having now, ordinary experience.
[10:20] It makes it possible.
[10:22] And that same thing
is the goal and purpose of life.
[10:26] Ananda, bliss.
[10:28] So they are very same.
[10:29] It is one reality which in itself combines
the answers to the ontological,
[10:35] epistemological and axiological questions.
[10:37] What a grand, grand claim.
[10:39] Just look at the vision.
[10:41] Just look at the vision.
[10:43] Swami Vivekananda said,
those Vedic rishis, they took philosophy
[10:48] to such heights where he says,
human lung can scarce dare breathe.
[10:53] You feel starved of oxygen there.
[10:56] It's such stratospheric heights.
[10:59] Elliot, T.S. Elliot, he took a course
in Indian philosophy
[11:04] at Harvard University.
[11:05] And I recently found out his tutor was
Josiah Royce, who was in,
[11:09] was one of the American idealists.
[11:11] And he was in
close contact, in dialogue actually.
[11:14] I think he met Swami Vivekananda
and definitely he had long discussions
[11:18] with Swami Abhedananda, who was here in
the Vedanta Society of New York.
[11:22] In fact, there's a description of,
there was
[11:26] one gentleman, I forget his name.
[11:28] He was the pioneer of Sanskrit studies
at Harvard University.
[11:31] He was there.
[11:33] Josiah Royce was there.
[11:35] Swami Abhedananda was there.
[11:37] And William James was there.
[11:38] William James is the pioneer
of psychology at Harvard University.
[11:41] And there's a description
of a dinner party in Boston
[11:45] at the residence of William James,
where the three of them, the Sanskritist,
[11:50] Josiah Royce and Abhedananda,
they ganged up on poor William James.
[11:54] Because William James,
as you know, was a pluralist.
[11:56] So he loved these discussions,
but he was not convinced of non duality.
[12:01] So he staunchly took
the pluralist position.
[12:03] And these three, Charles Landman,
I remember now, Charles Landman was
[12:07] the founder of Sanskrit studies
at Harvard University.
[12:12] Charles Landman, Swami Abhedananda and
Josiah Royce on one side
[12:15] and William James on the other side.
[12:17] Three hours they debated.
[12:20] I don't know
what the result of the debate was.
[12:22] But anyway, it was, that's recorded.
[12:26] This Josiah Royce
was the tutor for T.S. Eliot.
[12:29] And T.S. Eliot writes in,
when he's studying Indian philosophy,
[12:32] this is in 1920s, I think, he writes in
the margins of his notebooks,
[12:36] these ancient Indian thinkers,
all those centuries ago, had taken up
[12:42] the issues which exercise
our brightest minds
[12:45] today and dispose them off.
[12:47] And he says centuries ago, compared to
them, the brightest minds
[12:51] we have today are like children.
[12:54] So what a grand view.
[12:57] The ultimate reality is one and it is
the answer to our greatest questions
[13:03] about reality, knowledge
and the value of the point of life.
[13:08] The ontological,
axiological and epistemological questions.
[13:13] But Vedanta doesn't stop there.
[13:16] It goes even further, even more dramatic.
[13:20] What is this Brahman?
[13:22] What is this ultimate reality?
[13:24] This Sat Chit Ananda you're talking
about, where is it?
[13:27] Is it a grand metaphysical abstraction
or does it really exist?
[13:33] And where does it exist?
[13:36] Remember, it's a vital question
because it answers
[13:38] the greatest questions of philosophy.
[13:41] Also, it answers the question of what
we want,
[13:44] what we seek to achieve in life, Ananda.
[13:46] So it's
very important for us to know that.
[13:48] Where is this thing?
[13:50] What is it?
[13:51] How do we find it?
[13:53] And Vedanta gives
an even more dramatic answer, the climax.
[13:56] It says it's you. Tat Tvam Asi.
[13:59] Vedanta reaches its climax
by saying that ultimate reality is you.
[14:04] It grounds it in the most ordinary
of our experiences,
[14:08] our experience of ourselves.
[14:11] It is you.
[14:13] All of Vedanta can be summarised in
this short teaching, this sentence.
[14:20] That thou art. Tat Tvam Asi.
[14:21] You are that.
[14:23] I am Brahman.
[14:24] Aham Brahmasmi.
[14:28] We shall look into our ordinary experience
of ourselves and see what we can find.
[14:36] What are we seeking to do?
[14:37] We're seeking to discover the infinite.
[14:40] Where?
[14:40] Right here.
[14:41] Right in our experience
of life itself, of living.
[14:47] This exploration we will do,
a clarification,
[14:52] the extraordinary clarification
of ordinary experience.
[14:56] Actually, if you look at the Upanishads,
in Mandukya Upanishad, the Upanishad
[15:01] which is famous for waking, dreaming,
sleeping, where do you discover Turiyam?
[15:05] The ultimate reality
is called the Turiyam, the fourth.
[15:08] Where do you discover it?
[15:10] In waking, dreaming,
sleeping, ordinary experience.
[15:14] Look at the Taittiriya Upanishad
where you're seeking the same reality.
[15:19] Where do you discover it?
[15:20] In this psychophysical system
of the human being.
[15:23] You know, the enquiry
into the five sheaths
[15:26] of our psychophysical existence,
the physical, the physiological,
[15:31] the mental, the intellectual, the causal.
[15:34] Annamaya, Pranamaya, Manomaya,
Vijnanamaya, Anandamaya.
[15:38] This is all ordinary experience.
[15:39] There's nothing mystical about it.
[15:42] And always, the Upanishads,
all that time ago, they tell us,
[15:47] take a look at life right now.
[15:51] Suppose it doesn't work,
there are other ways.
[15:54] We will tell you, there are other ways.
[15:55] You can take the scenic route.
[15:58] But why take the scenic route
when the direct path is available,
[16:01] the royal path is available to us?
[16:04] We have taken surface roads so long
that the freeways have fallen into disuse.
[16:08] So this is the freeway,
the highway, the direct path.
[16:12] Take a look at that
and it's right here and now.
[16:15] That's what we'll try to do.
[16:16] And this extraordinary clarification
of ordinary experience.
[16:21] What do we find?
[16:25] Remember, whatever I'm going to say now,
from now on, the claim is,
[16:31] I'm speaking about
something we are already experiencing.
[16:33] Don't postpone it by saying,
all right, that's wonderful to know.
[16:37] One day, if God is gracious, I will have
that amazing, ecstatic,
[16:42] transcendent experience.
[16:43] Then I will know.
[16:44] No, no, no.
[16:45] Vedanta is saying that you have it now.
[16:48] The experience is here right now.
[16:50] We are just not seeing it.
[16:52] All we require
is this extraordinary clarification.
[16:55] That's what
we're going to try to attempt to do over
[16:58] the next 40 minutes or so.
[17:00] Extraordinary clarification.
[17:01] I'll try to finish within time today.
[17:03] I had this experience
once walking in Central Park.
[17:06] Somebody on a bike stopped in front of me
and said, hey, you're the guy
[17:10] with the really long talks on YouTube.
[17:13] And I said, guilty as charged.
[17:22] The first thing that we discover about
ourselves is
[17:26] that you can't doubt yourself.
[17:28] I don't mean in a psychological sense.
[17:30] Of course, we can doubt ourselves.
[17:31] We can second guess ourselves.
[17:32] But our own existence is indubitable.
[17:36] The French mathematician, philosopher,
Descartes, he set out on what is called
[17:41] the project of global skepticism
to doubt whatever could be doubted.
[17:45] To find out
the one thing you can never doubt.
[17:47] The rock bottom
on which you can rebuild knowledge.
[17:50] That was his, 300 years ago, his project.
[17:53] And he found you could doubt everything
that you experience.
[17:57] But you can't doubt the experience.
[18:00] I can doubt everything in the world.
[18:03] You might say, why?
[18:04] Why would you doubt all of this?
[18:06] Generally, we wouldn't.
[18:07] But because we are not philosophers,
but philosophers we would doubt.
[18:10] Philosophers are very meticulous.
[18:12] They would carefully say,
can this be false?
[18:15] What we are experiencing right now?
[18:16] It could be.
[18:17] Could be a dream.
[18:19] Could be the Matrix movie.
[18:20] There's also
another movie, the Inception movie.
[18:23] Like a dream.
[18:24] So it could be a dream.
[18:25] Who knows?
[18:25] How do you know it's not a dream?
[18:28] How do you know
that we are not hallucinating?
[18:30] It could be.
[18:31] The next moment we could wake up
and thought,
[18:33] oh, I thought I was in the Vedanta society
listening to a talk,
[18:36] but apparently I overslept.
[18:37] I'm in my bed now.
[18:39] How do you know?
[18:40] Zhuang Zhou, the philosopher,
Chinese philosopher, Taoist, he was taking
[18:45] a nap under a tree and he woke up.
[18:47] He said, I was dreaming I was a butterfly.
[18:50] And he woke up.
[18:50] And then he thought, am I a philosopher
who was dreaming that he was a butterfly
[18:56] or am I a butterfly who is now dreaming
that he's a philosopher?
[18:59] Which is true?
[19:00] Is the dream true or is this waking true?
[19:03] So I think
only philosophers get time off to nap.
[19:08] And that too,
ancient Chinese philosophers,
[19:10] not modern philosophers in Ivy League.
[19:12] They are too much under,
you know, publish or perish.
[19:14] They'll be doing assignments
and publishing papers
[19:18] and a perpetual race with AI.
[19:22] The ancient Chinese philosopher could take
the nap, nap under it, afternoon nap
[19:27] under a tree and wonder whether he was
a butterfly
[19:29] dreaming that he's a philosopher.
[19:31] How do you know?
[19:33] Descartes didn't have the Matrix movie,
but he thought of
[19:38] something very sophisticated.
[19:39] He thought, suppose there's a demon,
he called it a malign demon, who projects
[19:44] this world, who gets into my head
and projects this world for me.
[19:46] How would I know
that this world really exists?
[19:48] And even my body exists, how do I know?
[19:50] I'm just seeing it.
[19:51] It could be a projection.
[19:53] But one thing he said,
his famous cogito ergo sum,
[19:56] that I think therefore I exist.
[19:59] Even if I doubt, even
if I doubt my own existence, do I exist?
[20:02] I exist.
[20:03] Because just now I doubted it.
[20:04] That cannot be doubted.
[20:06] Even the doubt has to be there.
[20:08] If the doubt is there,
the doubter is there.
[20:10] There is at least something
that is experiencing a doubt.
[20:13] So one's own existence cannot be denied.
[20:16] About 800 years before Descartes,
the Advaitins were already writing,
[20:21] nobody ever thinks I do not exist.
[20:24] But everybody has the experience I exist.
[20:27] So this is the first thing
we discover about ourselves.
[20:31] What are we doing?
[20:32] We are clarifying our own experience.
[20:35] The first thing we discover,
which cannot be doubted,
[20:39] which is absolutely firm.
[20:40] Nobody really doubts it.
[20:42] You can doubt the existence of God.
[20:43] You can be an agnostic,
you can be an atheist,
[20:45] you can be a skeptic.
[20:48] But you cannot doubt your own existence.
[20:52] So there's an American word, meh?
[20:56] M-E-H
[20:56] He said, yeah, Swami,
but you're saying something very ordinary.
[21:01] Why make such a big fuss about it?
[21:03] Yeah, I exist.
[21:03] Whoever said I didn't exist, I exist.
[21:05] But that's the problem really.
[21:06] I exist.
[21:07] But my existence
is surrounded by problems.
[21:10] I have financial,
my absolutely sure existence,
[21:13] thank you very much for nothing,
is surrounded by financial problems,
[21:17] relationship problems, health problems,
insurance problems, weather problems.
[21:24] All of these problems are there.
[21:26] Because I exist, thank you very much.
[21:28] Now you have proved my certain existence
and now I have so many problems now.
[21:32] Wait, extraordinary clarification
has just begun.
[21:36] I promise to show you,
I promise to show you at the end
[21:39] of this clarification,
you don't have these problems.
[21:43] That's a big promise, Swami.
[21:45] Let's see if you can deliver.
[21:46] Let's see.
[21:49] This extraordinary clarification gives us
the first result
[21:53] that I do exist, indubitably so.
[21:56] In Sanskrit there is a word, asamdigdham,
which means irrefutable, indubitable.
[22:04] You can't doubt it.
[22:06] What else?
[22:09] Descartes says there in his meditation,
actually it's in another tract, he says,
[22:16] I am absolutely certain that I exist.
[22:20] But about that
absolutely certain existence
[22:22] I don't know anything.
[22:24] He says, his exact words translated,
it is passing strange that what
[22:31] I know so much about,
I can never be sure of it.
[22:34] And what I am sure of,
I don't know anything about it.
[22:38] What does he know so much about?
[22:39] All the things he knows, 300 years ago,
about science
[22:43] and mathematics and all of that.
[22:46] And he was right.
[22:47] He says, I can never be sure of it,
about the world, because a lot of what
[22:50] he knew has been proved to be wrong.
[22:53] Except certain things,
but many things have been revised.
[22:56] That's the nature of science.
[22:57] Science gets revised.
[22:59] And he says,
what I am absolutely sure about, I exist.
[23:02] And then you ask, okay, that you
who exists, absolutely sure, what's it?
[23:07] What do you know about it?
[23:08] I know nothing about it.
[23:10] How strange.
[23:10] I am sure that I exist,
but I can't say anything more about it.
[23:13] I can say a lot about this universe,
but I am not sure of any of it.
[23:19] Now, Descartes would be delighted
with what we are doing, this project
[23:22] of extraordinary clarification,
because we are going to deliver
[23:25] maybe a dozen results
to him, which he did not know.
[23:29] But he would be
delighted to discover all this.
[23:32] What do we know about
this absolutely sure existence?
[23:36] And remember,
all of this is ordinary experience.
[23:38] I am not going to say anything.
[23:39] I am going to say extraordinary things,
but ground it in ordinary experience.
[23:42] In fact, if you doubt it,
take a look and see, is it true?
[23:46] Almost all of what I will say,
you can immediately verify right now.
[23:49] In fact, all of what
I can say can be immediately verified
[23:52] right now, but that will require,
the last part of it I will come,
[23:55] that will require you to be enlightened.
[23:57] But the enlightened person
would also say, yeah, check, that's true.
[24:01] For the rest of us, we might go,
but most of it we will say, yes,
[24:06] I never thought of it that way.
[24:08] What's the first
of these amazing discoveries?
[24:11] Is that you are seeing.
[24:13] We are seeing.
[24:15] And we see so many things.
[24:18] You see flowers, you see the Swami,
you see the curtains
[24:21] and you see the shrine, the altar.
[24:24] Notice one thing, the flowers
and the Swami and the curtains
[24:27] and the altar,
they are all different things.
[24:30] And yet it is you who is seeing it.
[24:32] There is one common consciousness
or awareness
[24:35] to which different objects are appearing.
[24:38] That's what we call seeing.
[24:39] Seeing with the eyes, we are seeing
different colors, different shapes.
[24:44] The objects keep changing,
but the consciousness or the awareness,
[24:48] I'm using the words consciousness,
awareness interchangeably,
[24:51] it doesn't matter.
[24:53] None of them precisely capture
the Sanskrit chit, chaitanya,
[24:58] so you can use consciousness,
awareness interchangeably.
[25:01] It is that one awareness to which
these various objects are appearing.
[25:06] In fact, not only these objects
are appearing, but we hear,
[25:12] you are hearing right now, you heard music
earlier, now we are hearing words,
[25:15] language, a talk.
[25:19] It is the same awareness.
[25:20] Imagine, what I'm trying to point out
here is
[25:23] so utterly simple that we overlook it.
[25:26] Imagine the amazing nature of it.
[25:28] Seeing something, look at this experience
of seeing, color and shape and depth
[25:33] and all of this, we are seeing.
[25:35] And close your eyes and listen.
[25:38] Listening and seeing are
so different from each other.
[25:42] How does it feel to see
and how does it feel to listen?
[25:45] So different.
[25:47] And yet, yet, we have no doubt,
both of them are being experienced by
[25:52] the same awareness.
[25:54] The objects are different.
[25:55] Here the objects are colors
and shapes and people and all that.
[25:58] In listening the objects
are sound, music and speech and all.
[26:02] Very different objects,
but they're all experienced by
[26:06] the same awareness, same consciousness.
[26:11] And so it is true of flavor.
[26:13] When we eat, I am being very detailed
here, when we eat,
[26:19] but I'm just trying to bring out
the amazing nature
[26:21] of experience, our daily experience.
[26:25] Christophe Koch wrote a book about it.
[26:27] He called it the feeling of life itself.
[26:30] Michael Pollan's best-selling book
right now and Swami is reading it
[26:34] now, A World Appears.
[26:37] It's called A World Appears.
[26:38] What does he say?
[26:39] Close your eyes and open them.
[26:42] What happened?
[26:43] A world appeared before us.
[26:46] You say, so?
[26:47] But isn't it miraculous?
[26:50] So this magical display appears before us.
[26:53] How?
[26:54] How?
[26:56] You can guarantee it when you have
the camera which is recording.
[26:59] To the camera there is no experience
of the world
[27:01] appearing before us, before the camera.
[27:03] It's recording the same thing.
[27:05] But we have that experience.
[27:07] Why?
[27:08] Because of awareness,
because of consciousness and flavor
[27:12] and taste and smell, odors and fragrances.
[27:17] Touch, hard and soft, painful and sharp,
hot and cold, all of these experiences
[27:25] are coming before us.
[27:27] So all the sensory experiences, seeing,
hearing, smelling, tasting,
[27:31] touching, all of this amazing display.
[27:37] Do you want to have a glass of water?
[27:39] Does anybody have water?
[27:43] You've got?
[27:43] It's there.
[27:44] Sit, sit.
[27:44] It's there.
[27:46] Yes.
[27:50] That's all right.
[27:51] Come, come, come.
[27:53] There's space here.
[27:58] A world appears to us or in Christof Koch's,
the title of the book,
[28:03] The feeling of life itself.
[28:07] All of this is mediated by consciousness.
[28:10] You can reduce it to an equation,
a very general kind of equation.
[28:16] Consciousness plus object is
equal to experience.
[28:20] Consciousness plus object is
equal to experience.
[28:23] What are the objects?
[28:24] Colors, shapes, sounds, tastes, smells,
the objects which come to our senses.
[28:31] These are objects.
[28:32] Consciousness plus object is
equal to experience.
[28:35] That is a world appears before
us, the feeling of life itself.
[28:40] And it doesn't end there.
[28:43] It doesn't end there.
[28:44] It goes on.
[28:45] All our activities, when I'm speaking,
when I'm walking, when you're working,
[28:50] when you're playing,
in all those experiences,
[28:54] they're all conscious experiences.
[28:56] So there's this one light which gives us
the experience of seeing, hearing,
[29:01] smelling, tasting, touching.
[29:03] It is the same light of awareness,
of consciousness, which gives us
[29:08] the experience of our physical activities,
working, playing, talking, walking,
[29:14] all of that, our motor activities.
[29:18] And then we all of us have
an inner world, a first person world.
[29:21] Right now, we have thoughts,
we have memories, we have desires,
[29:26] we have feelings, we have a
sense of ego, I.
[29:30] All of that internally right now is also being
revealed by the same awareness,
[29:35] by the same consciousness.
[29:40] It is utterly ordinary.
[29:42] That's what our life is.
[29:43] And yet, if you reflect
upon it, it's extraordinary.
[29:48] This is like a magical display going on.
[29:52] David Chalmers calls it the movie
which is continuously playing inside you.
[29:55] Our series of experiences we are having.
[29:58] In fact, all our dreaming experiences
and even the blankness of deep sleep
[30:06] is lit up by this one awareness.
[30:10] About deep sleep, one might say,
but there's
[30:12] no awareness there, lights out.
[30:14] No, the Vedantic understanding,
reframing of our deep sleep experience
[30:18] is thus, that suppose you remove
all the objects
[30:22] of experience, what will it be like?
[30:24] It will be deep sleep.
[30:26] Suppose I don't see anything,
hear anything,
[30:28] smell anything, taste, touch.
[30:30] I don't think about anything,
I don't remember anything,
[30:33] I don't even feel I,
I don't do anything, I'm utterly still.
[30:36] All physical sensation has left,
all mentation has stopped,
[30:40] all emotions have settled down.
[30:44] Everything's blank.
[30:46] Deep sleep.
[30:50] And yet,
consciousness is there, illumining what?
[30:52] Nothing, just the absence of objects.
[30:54] I remember a very nice experience
I had just a couple of weeks ago,
[30:58] I was in New Zealand, outside Auckland,
one of the most beautiful countries
[31:02] in the world.
[31:03] Outside Auckland,
amazingly beautiful place.
[31:07] At night, we were working in the hall
which was being set up
[31:12] for the talk next day.
[31:14] Dark night, it's far away from the city,
so it's completely dark
[31:18] and vast open pastures, low-lying hills,
very beautiful,
[31:22] but all hidden in darkness.
[31:24] And up there in the sky, I saw
what seemed to be shining wisps of cloud
[31:30] from this horizon to that,
turned out to be the Milky Way.
[31:34] And I've never seen the Milky Way
so bright and so extensive, you know.
[31:39] I was reminded of one of the phrases
used by Isaac Asimov,
[31:42] the famous science fiction writer.
[31:45] He says, the stars like dust.
[31:48] Imagine the stars like that little band
of dust across the sky.
[31:52] There are millions of stars there.
[31:55] Now, I was walking with somebody and I,
on my mobile phone, you know,
[32:00] you have a flashlight,
you can switch it on.
[32:02] And I pointed it upwards, nothing,
it's dark, you can't see anything.
[32:06] But the moment I put my hand in front
of the light, like this, my hand blazed up
[32:13] in white light from the flashlight.
[32:16] So this is like deep sleep.
[32:18] It looks like there's no light there,
but the moment an object
[32:20] comes in front, look at what happens.
[32:22] It blazes up with light.
[32:26] Even deep sleep, the absence
of all objects, is illumined by
[32:30] awareness, by consciousness.
[32:33] All of this to say is we make
an amazing discovery that
[32:37] my indubitable existence
is also continuously consciousness.
[32:45] I will not even say it's
a conscious existence
[32:47] because in deep sleep,
we apparently lose consciousness.
[32:49] But consciousness is there all the time.
[32:53] It is what makes
the experience of life possible.
[32:57] Ordinary experience,
we are mining ordinary experience.
[33:00] Not only I am there, absolutely certain,
but all ordinary experience is mediated,
[33:06] is made possible
by this constant light of awareness.
[33:11] That's why we have ordinary experience.
[33:14] Indeed, as a footnote, if we are
one day fortunate enough to have
[33:18] extraordinary experiences,
mystical experiences, experiences of God
[33:23] and the divine, it will still be
this same consciousness
[33:27] which will experience that.
[33:30] Advaita Vedanta is interested not
in the objects of our experience,
[33:34] but in the experiencing consciousness.
[33:37] It's an exploration
of consciousness, of awareness.
[33:40] Vedanta has a word for this, what
I just said, sakshi,
[33:45] which means witness consciousness.
[33:48] Not a person who's sitting
and witnessing something.
[33:50] Think of it as a light which illumines
whatever comes in front of it.
[33:53] And if nothing comes in front of it,
that nothing itself is revealed.
[33:57] So this is
God's sakshi, witness consciousness.
[34:01] This is one more discovery we have made.
[34:03] Again, ordinary experience, all the time.
[34:07] Try to dispute it.
[34:09] You know, all the things
which I'll say today, try to dispute it.
[34:12] You can.
[34:13] If you dispute it, if you debate with
it, you'll come up with philosophy.
[34:17] You'll come up
with various schools of philosophy.
[34:19] You'll come up
with the history of Indian philosophy.
[34:22] But this is at the very source,
at the beginning, the original vision
[34:26] of the Vedic seers, the rishis.
[34:28] Going on, moving on.
[34:31] What else can we discover?
[34:33] This consciousness is always there.
[34:37] This consciousness, which illumines
all our experiences, is always there.
[34:42] It's gapless.
[34:44] In Sanskrit, nirantara.
[34:46] There's no break in consciousness.
[34:48] If consciousness is there in deep sleep,
in the sense in which we are speaking
[34:52] about, if it's there in deep sleep,
if deep sleep is defined or redefined,
[34:57] reframed as an illumination of the absence
of objects, the moment you have
[35:01] the illumination of the absence
of objects, there is illumination.
[35:04] So there is consciousness.
[35:05] The same idea
would be extended to general anesthesia.
[35:10] So if you say that this, if we claim
that this consciousness is present
[35:13] in deep sleep or general anesthesia also,
because after all, in whose experience,
[35:18] who claims I experienced anesthesia?
[35:21] The moment you say
I experienced anesthesia, the moment
[35:24] we say I was deeply asleep,
I did not know anything,
[35:28] how did you know that even?
[35:30] If consciousness was not there,
we would have said I was awake,
[35:33] I fell asleep and dreamt,
I'm awake, I'm awake again.
[35:35] I would never claim that there was
a period of nothing, that there was
[35:38] a period of nothing, even that it's
a very interesting way of looking at it.
[35:43] So this consciousness
is always there, gapless.
[35:48] A lot of debates are there.
[35:50] The Buddhist mind only school,
the momentary consciousness school.
[35:55] They say no, no, no,
there are gaps in consciousness.
[35:58] In fact, the Buddhist idea is of
that particular school, Vijnanavada,
[36:02] is that there are flashes
of consciousness.
[36:05] The momentary flashes of consciousness
in Sanskrit, a stream
[36:11] of momentary flashes of consciousness.
[36:13] Consciousness, switch off consciousness,
switch off consciousness,
[36:16] switch off, extremely fast.
[36:18] That's why they say you think
it's one consciousness, but it isn't.
[36:22] Moment to moment it appears
and disappears.
[36:25] What's our reply to that?
[36:27] There's an example of the dialectics
which went on
[36:29] about 1600 years ago in India.
[36:34] The reply would be, if it's discrete,
if there are gaps in consciousness,
[36:40] are the gaps known or unknown?
[36:43] If the gaps are known,
then there's consciousness there.
[36:46] To know something,
to experience something,
[36:47] there must be consciousness.
[36:48] So it's no longer discrete,
it must be one consciousness.
[36:51] If you say the gaps are unknown,
there are gaps in consciousness,
[36:54] but we can't know them at all.
[36:56] If you can't know them at all,
in principle it can be
[36:58] ever unknown and unknowable.
[37:00] Why speak of it?
[37:02] Where does the point arise?
[37:03] Why would you even talk about it?
[37:05] This is a gapless consciousness.
[37:08] In Sanskrit, nirantara, gapless.
[37:14] I like these words, they help
me to remember the whole argument.
[37:18] Another reason I like these words,
most of these words are names of monks.
[37:23] That's how the monks are named.
[37:24] Various aspects of ultimate consciousness.
[37:27] We know a Swami Nirantaranandaji
who was our teacher.
[37:30] So, the one
whose bliss is in gapless consciousness.
[37:37] Without a gap.
[37:41] Then what else can we find out?
[37:44] Well, there can be things without a gap.
[37:46] For example,
the Hudson is flowing continuously.
[37:48] There's no gap in it,
but it's a continuous flow, a stream.
[37:53] There's water, you know, you say
you can never bathe in
[37:55] the same river twice.
[37:56] The water is continuously flowing.
[37:58] So, isn't consciousness like that?
[38:00] We even have, in fact it's
an American school of English literature,
[38:03] stream of consciousness.
[38:05] From a Vedantic perspective,
that's a misnomer.
[38:09] A misnomer.
[38:10] When you say stream
of consciousness, what do you mean?
[38:12] You mean thoughts, emotions,
ideas, memories, our reflections.
[38:17] That's going on in the mind.
[38:18] If you carefully attend to it,
you can identify all of that
[38:21] and you can put it in writing.
[38:23] That became stream
of consciousness literature.
[38:25] But Vedanta would say,
wait, wait a minute.
[38:28] If you have a series of ideas and thoughts
and perceptions, sensations, reflections,
[38:35] those are all objects being lit up
in that one gapless consciousness.
[38:42] They're objects.
[38:43] If you are aware of the thoughts,
if you are aware
[38:45] of the sensations, they must be objects.
[38:48] An object
is something that you are aware of.
[38:49] It is not awareness.
[38:51] Awareness reveals that object.
[38:53] So, you can see the stream which stream
of consciousness talks
[38:56] about is not consciousness.
[38:59] It's a stream
of objects flowing in consciousness.
[39:02] Consciousness is illumining all of that.
[39:05] This was demonstrated to us.
[39:07] I was in Venice last year.
[39:09] We had a, one day was a writing workshop.
[39:11] It was a gathering of people
debating consciousness, scientists,
[39:15] neuroscientists,
quantum theorists, AI people, one monk.
[39:20] And one day there was a writing workshop
by one
[39:25] of the very famous science fiction writer
who was also there.
[39:28] So, he told us, this morning
when you came to this conference hall,
[39:33] you know,
you came by boat or gondola or something.
[39:36] You actually don't take a gondola to work.
[39:38] There you take, it's more like a bus.
[39:39] Gondola is for relaxation.
[39:42] So, there is the equivalent of a bus.
[39:46] It's a launch actually.
[39:47] So, you take that.
[39:50] Just give us an account
of what you saw, heard, smelt, tasted.
[39:57] Not thoughts.
[39:58] Don't tell us what you thought.
[39:59] Write it down from your room to here.
[40:03] What are the things you saw?
[40:05] What did you hear?
[40:06] What were the impressions you got?
[40:08] Sensory description.
[40:10] We wrote it down.
[40:12] And then he said, after finishing that,
now add to it what did you think about it?
[40:21] Add to it what did you feel about it?
[40:25] So, our feelings, emotions, what
did those smells, what did those sights,
[40:30] the colours, the shapes, what we saw.
[40:32] The first account
was just the sensory report.
[40:35] The second account was the sensory report
with an overlay
[40:38] of our emotional reactions.
[40:40] I liked it.
[40:42] I wanted
that cup of Italian coffee which I smelt.
[40:46] So, I like it.
[40:47] I want it.
[40:48] This made me feel anxious
or the boat is a little late.
[40:54] Will I be late to the workshop?
[40:55] That anxiety came.
[40:56] So, all those things you added.
[40:59] Then third time you write it
again, the same thing.
[41:02] The description of your journey
from your room to this place.
[41:04] Now you add your reflections on it.
[41:07] What are you thinking about?
[41:08] How are you ruminating?
[41:10] What's going on in your mind?
[41:11] Could be nothing
to do with what you are seeing actually.
[41:14] Now it shows you
these are all stream of consciousness.
[41:17] They are all being illumined by
one consciousness
[41:20] which is not part of the stream.
[41:23] So, this is called nirvikara, changeless.
[41:29] The objects keep changing.
[41:31] There is no change in consciousness.
[41:34] It is a big thing to reflect
upon because there's in the literature
[41:38] we always talk about transformation
of consciousness, a change
[41:42] in consciousness,
a new state of consciousness.
[41:45] Now this way of thinking which
we are introducing now,
[41:47] this extraordinary clarification
shows us none of that is possible.
[41:52] What you are talking about
when you are talking about stream
[41:54] of consciousness, change of consciousness,
transformation of consciousness,
[41:58] you are talking about a transformation
in the mind, in the intellect,
[42:01] in the emotions,
in our sensory perceptions,
[42:03] in our behavior, in our language.
[42:05] You are talking about the contents
of consciousness,
[42:08] not of consciousness itself.
[42:11] Notice what's going on.
[42:13] We are not meddling with our experience.
[42:14] We are clarifying.
[42:15] We are offering
an extraordinary clarification,
[42:18] changing our view
about what's going on here.
[42:21] And this view,
consciousness doesn't change.
[42:25] It's the object which changes.
[42:27] Logically also, you can use the same kind
of logic to prove
[42:29] that consciousness does not
and cannot change.
[42:32] The same question can be asked.
[42:34] If consciousness changed,
did you experience
[42:37] the change in consciousness?
[42:39] If you say you did, then it was a change
in the object, not in consciousness.
[42:43] Because whatever
you experience is an object.
[42:45] And if you say no, no, there's a change
in consciousness
[42:47] but we cannot experience it,
then why speak about it?
[42:51] So consciousness is not only
without a gap, but it doesn't flow.
[42:56] It shines.
[42:57] It is unchanging.
[42:58] This unchanging nature, changeless nature
of consciousness is called Nirvikaara
[43:03] in Sanskrit, without modification.
[43:07] Objects undergo modification.
[43:09] Consciousness does not undergo
modification.
[43:11] Consciousness illumines, it shines.
[43:14] Very much like the light metaphor.
[43:17] I mean, stuff is going on in this room.
[43:19] People come and go, things are arranged
and rearranged, but the light
[43:23] reveals whatever is going on.
[43:24] Light is not arranged or rearranged.
[43:26] Light is not going on
in this room, generally speaking.
[43:29] What else can we find out?
[43:32] I hope we're all moving together.
[43:34] I can assure you I'm enjoying it
and Descartes would have enjoyed it
[43:37] thoroughly.
[43:38] He would have said, oh, I'm assured.
[43:41] This is great, I never thought about it.
[43:45] What else can we find out?
[43:47] Another thing
we find out is very interesting.
[43:50] Nothing sticks to consciousness.
[43:52] Consciousness is non-stick.
[43:54] You're non-stick cooking there?
[43:57] Consciousness is the ultimate non-stick.
[44:00] Nothing sticks to it.
[44:02] People come and go, events happen,
life flows by,
[44:05] it doesn't stick to consciousness.
[44:07] It may stick to your memory
a little bit, but not to consciousness.
[44:12] Think about it.
[44:13] That's the very nature of knowledge.
[44:15] Just ordinary, without going into
metaphysics and all that,
[44:17] just ordinary knowledge itself,
ordinary perception itself.
[44:20] We are looking at
the universe, at the world.
[44:23] What sticks to your eyes?
[44:25] Which color, which person, which shape,
which place, what we have seen,
[44:30] what has stuck to our eyes,
what is it that we are always seeing?
[44:33] Nothing.
[44:33] It just flows.
[44:35] What sound, what music,
what noise is sticking to your ears?
[44:39] Nothing.
[44:41] What flavor
to your tongue, what order to your nose?
[44:44] Nothing.
[44:44] It just comes and goes.
[44:47] What thought, what emotion, what idea,
what memory is sticking to your mind?
[44:55] Actually nothing.
[44:56] Even the most repetitive,
the most repetitive, the most OCD kind
[45:01] of behavior pattern,
that also comes and goes.
[45:04] If you fall asleep, in your dreams
those things are not there.
[45:07] Even if they invade your dreams,
when you go into
[45:09] deep sleep, nothing is there.
[45:12] So nothing sticks to
senses, to our senses.
[45:18] Nothing sticks to our mind also.
[45:19] Forget consciousness.
[45:20] Nothing sticks to consciousness.
[45:23] The objects which we experience in
consciousness, arise,
[45:27] play around for a little while, subside.
[45:30] Consciousness is exactly the same,
untouched, non-stick.
[45:36] Consciousness is non-stick.
[45:38] They are worth meditating upon.
[45:39] These are
the subjects of meditation in Vedanta.
[45:43] Consciousness as asanga,
non-stick, unattached.
[45:47] Effortlessly so.
[45:48] You don't have to be detached.
[45:50] You have no choice in the matter.
[45:52] Consciousness is detached.
[45:53] Your nature as consciousness is detached.
[45:56] All the time, by definition,
by construction, by logic,
[46:00] by the sheer logic
of it, what's going on here.
[46:03] It's detached.
[46:04] Try to be attached, you can't.
[46:07] Even the trying is an effort
of the mind which will come and go.
[46:11] Consciousness will remain ever the same.
[46:14] Asanga, non-stick.
[46:16] Again, names of monks.
[46:19] Asanga itself was the name
of a Buddhist monk, about 1400 years ago.
[46:23] One of the greatest Buddhist philosophers.
[46:25] Asanga, Vasubandhu, Asanga.
[46:28] Non-stick.
[46:29] What else?
[46:33] Consciousness is ever the same.
[46:36] This is another remarkable thing,
which is
[46:38] utterly alien to our way of thinking.
[46:42] Consciousness is not affected by
what it experiences.
[46:48] Rich, wonderful experiences,
good experiences do not improve or enrich.
[46:53] They can improve your mind.
[46:55] They can enrich your memories.
[46:56] They can change your personality.
[46:58] Consciousness, the one which reveals
those improvements by itself
[47:01] is not improved or enriched or changed.
[47:05] That which is unchanging,
that which is non-stick,
[47:08] how can it be improved by
anything that it experiences?
[47:11] It cannot be degraded, damaged by what
it experiences,
[47:15] no matter how horrible the experience.
[47:18] In every experience,
consciousness is just the same.
[47:22] Bare awareness.
[47:24] The ever same,
never different nature of consciousness.
[47:27] In Sanskrit, this is called Samaha.
[47:31] Samaha means even, same.
[47:36] Samah rasa, of same taste.
[47:38] Like the ocean,
taste it at the top, salty.
[47:40] Taste it in the middle, salty.
[47:41] Taste it at the bottom, salty.
[47:46] I was saying these things in Brisbane
a couple of weeks ago
[47:51] and they are drilling for oil outside.
[47:54] They said, taste it in the top.
[47:55] I said, Swami, no.
[47:56] You taste it at the top, it's oily.
[48:00] But it stays the same.
[48:01] Consciousness is ever
of same taste, no different.
[48:05] If you say, no, it is different,
then the difference must be in the mind
[48:09] or in the body or somewhere else.
[48:10] An object, that's why you experienced it.
[48:13] Consciousness is always
the same, never different.
[48:17] Samaha.
[48:19] Put these together.
[48:20] That consciousness
is always there, never absent, gapless.
[48:24] That consciousness is never changing.
[48:27] Consciousness is non-stick.
[48:28] Consciousness is ever
the same, never different.
[48:31] Put them all together
and we get an amazing result.
[48:34] Consciousness is untraumatizable.
[48:38] In Sanskrit, avyayaha, the undecaying.
[48:41] Stunning result.
[48:44] Because the first thing
we say about ourselves is, I suffer.
[48:49] I am traumatized.
[48:51] And here is the claim that,
no, you're not traumatized.
[48:54] Not only that, you cannot be.
[48:57] But we are not talking about the body.
[48:59] The body can have trauma.
[49:00] It does have trauma
from injury, from disease.
[49:04] The mind has trauma
from terrible experiences in life.
[49:09] The mind gets traumatized.
[49:10] The personality gets mangled.
[49:13] It does get affected.
[49:15] But what we are talking about
is consciousness, which reveals
[49:18] all this trauma in itself,
is not only not traumatized,
[49:21] cannot be traumatized.
[49:26] It is this indubitable existence,
which is the light of our lives,
[49:33] which reveals all of our lives,
which is always there, never not there,
[49:38] which is never changingly there,
which is non-stick,
[49:43] which is ever the same.
[49:45] It cannot be traumatized.
[49:49] Yesterday, someone sent me something
from Dostoevsky.
[49:53] He said, how Vedantic, Swami.
[49:56] Take a look at this.
[49:58] I'll read it out to you.
[50:01] This young man said, very Vedantic theme
in an unexpected place.
[50:06] Dostoevsky writes, and I seem to have
such strength in me now that I think
[50:13] I could stand anything, any suffering,
only to be able to say
[50:18] and to repeat myself
every moment, I exist.
[50:24] In thousands of agonies, I exist.
[50:29] I am tormented on the rack, but I exist.
[50:34] Do I sit alone on a pillar?
[50:36] A philosopher
used to sit on top of a pillar.
[50:38] Do I sit alone on a pillar?
[50:40] I exist.
[50:42] I see the sun and if I don't see
the sun, I know it's there.
[50:48] That existence is the sun and there is
a whole life in that,
[50:53] in knowing that the sun is there.
[50:56] There's a whole life in there,
knowing that this one indubitable light
[51:02] of our lives, which is always there,
non-stick, unchangeably, ever the same,
[51:09] never traumatized, it's there.
[51:12] Dostoevsky says, it is a whole life in it.
[51:16] Moving on, Vedanta says,
we are just beginning,
[51:18] we're getting started now.
[51:20] The engine is just warming up now.
[51:22] What else can we discover?
[51:25] I'm just imagining Descartes
all those centuries ago
[51:27] with his notebook scribbling down.
[51:29] This is amazing, he would say.
[51:30] This is stunning.
[51:32] What else can we discover?
[51:35] This consciousness is the light of lights.
[51:38] Upanishads speak of
it as the light of lights.
[51:41] In Sri Krishna in the Bhagavad Gita,[Sanskrit verse]
he calls it, in the 13th chapter, he says,
[51:50] it is the light
of lights forever beyond darkness.
[51:54] In the Katha Upanishad, Mundaka Upanishad,
Shvetashvara Upanishad,
[51:57] the same lines come.
Tameva bhantam anubhati sarvam…
[52:04] That alone shining,
everything else shines.
[52:07] By its light, everything here is lit up.
[52:10] Consciousness alone shining,
everything else shines.
[52:13] By the light of consciousness,
everything here is lit up.
[52:17] Consciousness alone,
everything else shines means,
[52:19] consciousness shining,
the mind becomes aware.
[52:22] The mind becoming aware, we have
these illumined senses of seeing, hearing,
[52:28] smelling, the modes of experience of life,
what Christof Coe calls,
[52:32] the feeling of life itself.
[52:34] That shining, everything else shines.
[52:36] By its light, everything here is lit up.
[52:38] What do you mean by light of lights?
[52:40] The light metaphor is used in Upanishads.
[52:44] The idea of light there is interesting.
[52:48] Anything that reveals something
which was in darkness is called a light.
[52:51] The room was in darkness, you switch on
this light, the room is revealed.
[52:55] So what's the light?
[52:56] That which reveals everything
else which was in darkness.
[52:59] But also, important, it reveals itself.
[53:03] To see this light,
you don't have to switch on another light.
[53:06] To see the room in darkness, the people,
the tables and chairs, you need a light.
[53:12] They will not show themselves.
[53:13] I'm talking in a very naive way here.
[53:15] So this room will not show itself
unless you focus a light on it.
[53:18] But the light shows itself.
[53:20] It not only shows you
the room, it shows itself.
[53:22] So light is something that reveals
whatever else was in
[53:25] darkness and reveals itself too.
[53:27] But of course,
this light is not the ultimate light.
[53:32] What's the light of this light?
[53:34] Our eyes.
[53:36] If you close your eyes, no light.
[53:40] Although if it's a strong enough light,
if you look at it, you can feel
[53:42] the light even with the closed eyelids.
[53:45] I've told this earlier, but it's
the right place to tell a funny story
[53:48] about my illumination, enlightenment.
[53:54] I became enlightened
three days after I became a monk.
[53:58] You're laughing.
[53:59] That means
you don't have confidence in me.
[54:04] What happened was,
we had to meditate as new novices.
[54:08] We had to meditate early in the morning
in the temple.
[54:11] And I also went to meditate in the temple.
[54:13] I was just three or four days,
I'd just become a novice.
[54:17] And we had a Swami who was
a very strict Swami who made sure
[54:20] that the novices would, monastic novices,
would all get up
[54:23] early in the morning and go and meditate.
[54:26] So I was sitting there and suddenly I had
this experience
[54:29] of light, tremendous light.
[54:31] And I thought, already?
[54:36] That was quick.
[54:38] I thought it might take me a few years
to become enlightened,
[54:41] but three days, that's good.
[54:43] Then I opened my eyes and I saw
that Swami with a flashlight.
[54:48] And he's saying, oh,
you have come, good, go on meditating.
[54:50] And then he went to the, to see,
check who else has come
[54:53] and who has not come.
[54:54] So he was checking on the monastic novices
in the darkness in the temple.
[54:58] Maharaj knows which
Swami I'm talking about.
[55:02] So, no, I'm very grateful
to those strict Swamis
[55:07] because you look back and you are grateful
to them because of their scoldings
[55:12] and their, you know,
uncompromising discipline
[55:15] that we learned a little bit.
[55:17] Whatever we know,
we learned because of them.
[55:19] So illumination, the light
outside doesn't work without
[55:23] these lights, this light.
[55:24] Our senses are lights.
[55:28] Think about it.
[55:29] Without these eyes, I can't see the world.
[55:31] Without the ears,
I can't hear music and speech.
[55:34] Without the nose, without the tongue,
without the skin, enormously there is
[55:38] various domains
of experience are not available to me.
[55:41] So the senses are lights.
[55:42] Remember what's the definition of a light?
[55:44] It reveals that which was in darkness.
[55:48] And in doing so, it reveals itself.
[55:50] By the fact, very fact that I see all
of you, by that very fact,
[55:53] I not only see you,
but I also know intuitively
[55:56] my eyes are working.
[55:57] I don't have to see my eyes, but I know
my eyes are there
[56:00] and working because I see all of you.
[56:02] My ears
are working because I can hear all this.
[56:05] So the senses are lights.
[56:09] Language is a light.
[56:12] Language is a great light.
[56:14] We are in
the age of AI, large language models.
[56:17] What's the one light that these AIs have?
[56:19] Language.
[56:20] Human language.
[56:22] Language is a great light.
[56:23] They have only one light, the AIs.
[56:25] One eye, one light to know everything
and that's human language.
[56:30] Language is a great light.
[56:32] The mind is a great light.
[56:34] Intellect, mind is a great light.
[56:36] It can inquire, synthesize information,
come to new understanding.
[56:41] But what is the light
of the mind, of language, of the senses?
[56:46] What shining all of these shine?
[56:49] Consciousness.
[56:50] Suppose consciousness were not there.
[56:51] Suppose the eyes
are not there, what will happen?
[56:53] I won't see,
that's all, but I'm still aware.
[56:55] Ears are not there,
I won't hear, but I'm still there.
[56:59] Suppose I stop thinking, I'm aware
of the blankness,
[57:01] I'm still there, aware of blankness.
[57:04] But suppose that eye, that awareness
was not there, then nothing,
[57:09] nothing, just nothing at all.
[57:12] The eyes could be there,
ears could be there,
[57:14] nothing, no experience at all.
[57:16] In Sanskrit there is a phrase,
jagad andhya prasangah,
[57:20] the contingency
of the darkness of the universe arises.
[57:23] The universe would be enshrouded in
darkness if the consciousness
[57:26] was not there,
that awareness was not there.
[57:28] Awareness,
consciousness is the light of lights.
[57:32] Jyotisham apitad jyoti.
[57:35] Moving on, associated with this,
how do we know that consciousness exists?
[57:41] Svaprakash,
we are sure it exists, but how?
[57:45] How?
[57:46] How do I know you exist?
[57:48] Swami, you see us, don't you?
[57:49] Yeah, I see you,
therefore I know you are here.
[57:52] I hear it, so I know somebody is speaking.
[57:55] And so by certain instruments
we know the existence of other things.
[58:00] I can feel my body, so I know it's there.
[58:04] A paralyzed person might not be
able to feel a limb,
[58:07] they wouldn't even know
if it's there or been amputated.
[58:10] The phantom limb syndrome is also there.
[58:12] So it is through the body, the senses,
through the mind that I know of
[58:17] the existence of other things
and including the body
[58:20] and the senses and the mind.
[58:21] But consciousness, how do I know?
[58:23] I'm so sure of consciousness,
but how do I know
[58:25] that consciousness is there?
[58:26] It's a subtle question,
you're sure of it, but how?
[58:30] Did you see consciousness?
[58:32] Did you hear consciousness?
[58:33] Did you smell it?
[58:34] Did you taste it?
[58:34] Did you touch it?
[58:37] Did you have to think about it?
[58:38] Let me see, am I conscious or not?
[58:41] I'm conscious.
[58:42] No, we don't do that, ever.
[58:45] Consciousness is prior to everything,
prior to all of these experiences
[58:50] of mental sensory experiences.
[58:52] Consciousness is prior to all of that.
[58:54] Awareness is prior to all of that.
[58:55] How do we know it?
[58:57] And Vedanta says there's
only one possibility,
[59:00] it must be self-revealing, like a light.
[59:03] It reveals everything
else and it reveals itself.
[59:06] The self-revealing nature
of consciousness is called Swaprakasha,
[59:11] self-luminous.
[59:14] I won't go into it, I can already see
I violated the time limit,
[59:19] we have one minute past 12,
but I'm going to go on regardless
[59:22] because I have to finish
the extraordinary clarification.
[59:27] Okay, we'll speed it up.
[59:28] You could go on and on, but I'll get into
the really difficult part
[59:32] a little bit now.
[59:34] All of this was supposed to be easy,
but whatever we did till now.
[59:39] What have we got till now?
[59:42] Indubitable.
[59:44] You cannot doubt consciousness.
[59:45] Asam digdam.
[59:47] Consciousness is the light of our lives.
[59:48] It reveals everything in our life.
[59:51] Sakshi, witness consciousness.
[59:53] It's always there, never not here.
[59:57] It's without any gaps.
[1:00:00] So, nirantara.
[1:00:01] And then, not only
without gaps, it's unchangingly there.
[1:00:05] Consciousness is unchangingly there.
[1:00:07] Nirvikaara.
[1:00:08] And it's non-stick.
[1:00:10] Asanga.
[1:00:12] Non-stick.
[1:00:13] And it's always the same.
[1:00:15] Samaha.
[1:00:17] Experiences differ,
but consciousness doesn't differ.
[1:00:19] Samaha.
[1:00:21] And it's untraumatized.
[1:00:26] Avyayaha.
[1:00:27] It is the light of lights.
[1:00:29] Jyotisham apitad jyoti.
[1:00:30] Light of lights.
[1:00:31] It is self-luminous.
[1:00:32] Swaprakasha.
[1:00:33] All of this.
[1:00:36] Another thing about consciousness.
[1:00:38] It is direct, immediate,
choiceless, instantaneous, effortless.
[1:00:45] How is consciousness presented?
[1:00:46] It's presented directly,
not through anything.
[1:00:49] And it's effortless.
[1:00:50] You don't have to do anything
to be conscious.
[1:00:52] Try to be not conscious, you can't.
[1:00:56] What do people try to do?
[1:00:57] They get drunk
and try to lose consciousness.
[1:01:00] Just have
the conscious experience of being drunk.
[1:01:05] But they become unconscious, Swami.
[1:01:06] Yes, they have the conscious experience
of being unconscious.
[1:01:10] They're not really unconscious.
[1:01:13] So, you can never be not conscious.
[1:01:17] Vedanta would claim,
even under anesthesia there is
[1:01:19] consciousness.
[1:01:20] That does not mean Vedanta doubts
the efficacy of anesthesia.
[1:01:23] No, no, not at all.
[1:01:24] Vedanta's explanation
of anesthesia is different.
[1:01:28] The medical explanation of anesthesia is,
you block consciousness.
[1:01:32] You stop consciousness from arising.
[1:01:34] Therefore, you don't feel pain,
if it's general anesthesia.
[1:01:37] Vedanta's explanation of anesthesia is,
you block
[1:01:40] the access of consciousness to objects.
[1:01:42] You block the objects from arising,
from being presented to consciousness.
[1:01:46] It's like being in deep sleep.
[1:01:55] So, it is choiceless.
[1:01:58] Consciousness is choiceless.
[1:01:59] You don't have a choice in it.
[1:02:01] It's effortless.
[1:02:02] It's directly present.
[1:02:04] It's choiceless.
[1:02:05] This direct, immediate nature
of consciousness is called aparoksha.
[1:02:10] Alright,
that's enough to be going on with.
[1:02:12] Now, let's enter
the really difficult part of it.
[1:02:15] What's the really difficult part of it?
[1:02:17] All of what I did just now, in philosophy,
it is immediately recognizable as Sankhya,
[1:02:24] which we use to separate consciousness
from the objects.
[1:02:27] Here is the world of objects,
external objects,
[1:02:29] physical objects, mental objects.
[1:02:31] They're all objects.
[1:02:32] Even mind is object,
not subject in this analysis.
[1:02:35] See how different
it is from our usual discourse.
[1:02:38] And these are worthwhile exercises.
[1:02:40] If I tell you
what you already know, what's the point?
[1:02:45] But if I'm telling you something that
you don't know
[1:02:46] and still it seems reasonable,
that's exciting.
[1:02:49] I'm learning something,
an utterly new way of looking at it.
[1:02:55] Consciousness is separated from
all the objects.
[1:02:59] The objects are separate,
consciousness is separate.
[1:03:01] This is called Atma-Anatma
vichara, self and not self inquiry.
[1:03:06] Drig-Drishya vichara,
this inquiry into the seer and the seen.
[1:03:11] But now the question arises, what is
the relationship
[1:03:14] of the objects to consciousness?
[1:03:17] Are they utterly separate?
[1:03:18] You can't say utterly separate
because they're all the time interacting.
[1:03:20] After all, we are seeing and hearing
and smelling and tasting objects.
[1:03:23] And we identify with some of them.
[1:03:26] We identify with the body and the mind.
[1:03:28] Some of these objects,
we're continuously interacting with them.
[1:03:31] What's the relationship between them?
[1:03:34] Huge subject,
endless philosophical views are there.
[1:03:38] Some views
say they are distinct but interacting.
[1:03:41] Some would say that.
[1:03:43] Some would say, no, no,
no, they are one reality.
[1:03:45] It is matter alone, the object alone
which produces consciousness.
[1:03:49] Who says that?
[1:03:50] Materialism says that.
[1:03:51] The brain produces consciousness.
[1:03:53] The scientist will come, the materialist
will come and say, Swami,
[1:03:56] all of what you have said, I agree with.
[1:03:58] I have no problems with it
except all this fancy consciousness talk.
[1:04:02] It's actually the brain
which is producing this consciousness.
[1:04:05] Once the brain
is gone, lights off, finished.
[1:04:08] But there you will have
the hard problem of consciousness.
[1:04:11] You can't explain
how the brain is producing consciousness.
[1:04:14] It's a huge issue,
debate which is going on now.
[1:04:17] Robert Lawrence Kuhn said there are now
he's saying more than 400 theories
[1:04:21] of consciousness, which is crazy.
[1:04:24] The latest issue of Scientific American,
this month, the cover story,
[1:04:30] consciousness, the impossible question.
[1:04:32] It says, Scientific American.
[1:04:35] 20 years ago it would have said,
it's the brain, that's it.
[1:04:39] Now, imagine the enormous shift.
[1:04:43] Now, it's not that they are adopting
the Vedantic perspective
[1:04:46] or a Buddhist perspective.
[1:04:47] No, some of them are,
some of them are not.
[1:04:49] But I'm saying
the question is now a serious question.
[1:04:53] What was taken as granted,
one day we will see
[1:04:55] how the brain produces consciousness.
[1:04:56] They are no longer saying that anymore.
[1:04:59] So, the question about how, what is
the relationship of object
[1:05:03] to consciousness, matter to awareness.
[1:05:06] And I will jump straight
to the Vedantic answer.
[1:05:10] The Vedantic answer is,
matter is an appearance in consciousness.
[1:05:15] The object
is an appearance in consciousness.
[1:05:19] It has the immediate advantage
of being true to our experience.
[1:05:22] Where do you see objects?
[1:05:24] In consciousness.
[1:05:26] Where do you see the world?
[1:05:28] You might say, no, it's out there.
[1:05:29] But where is out there?
[1:05:30] It's in you only.
[1:05:33] One Swami, he was giving a talk in India.
[1:05:38] He was talking about
the all-pervading nature of consciousness
[1:05:40] and somebody
at the back of the hall objected.
[1:05:42] He said, Swami,
I am there and I'm not there.
[1:05:46] I am here and I'm not there.
[1:05:48] And you are there and you are not here.
[1:05:49] How can I be everywhere?
[1:05:52] And the Swami answered, ah, but here
and there, are they not both in you?
[1:05:58] What does he mean by that?
[1:05:59] If you think of yourself as the body,
clearly I am here and you are there.
[1:06:03] But if you think of yourself as a field
of consciousness, experiencing objects,
[1:06:07] where are those objects being experienced?
[1:06:09] In consciousness.
[1:06:11] The universe appears in consciousness
as the known and the unknown.
[1:06:15] Remember,
it's not that you know everything.
[1:06:17] Even the unknown part
of the universe, where is it unknown?
[1:06:19] To whom is it unknown?
[1:06:20] To consciousness.
[1:06:23] The unknown is converted into the known by
consciousness through instruments
[1:06:27] of knowledge, through what are called
epistemic instruments.
[1:06:32] It sounds like
a mouthful but it's very simple.
[1:06:35] I don't know what's behind me.
[1:06:39] Now, where is
that I don't know what's behind me?
[1:06:41] In my consciousness,
that's there as the unknown.
[1:06:44] Now I can do this.
[1:06:47] Oh,
now I know what's behind me, the curtain.
[1:06:49] What happened?
[1:06:50] I used my epistemic instruments
and I took a look.
[1:06:54] I converted the unknown,
I brought it into the range of the known.
[1:06:58] That's all I did.
[1:06:59] But in both cases, it was in,
this is in my field of consciousness
[1:07:05] as the known, that's in
my field of consciousness as the unknown.
[1:07:08] The universe down to the furthest galaxy
and the tiniest particle here are all
[1:07:14] in consciousness
as the known and the unknown.
[1:07:17] They are indeed
all appearances in consciousness.
[1:07:20] This is the hard part.
[1:07:22] What I'm claiming until this point,
whatever I said is already
[1:07:26] within our experience.
[1:07:27] Just take some, you know,
need to look at it in a new way.
[1:07:31] This part, what I'm just saying now,
the universe, your consciousness
[1:07:35] and the universe is in consciousness,
is indeed nothing other than consciousness
[1:07:39] appearing to
itself as an objective universe.
[1:07:42] This seems tremendous
because it is tremendous.
[1:07:45] But here also, the claim is,
it is within your experience.
[1:07:50] In fact,
this is what experience is right now.
[1:07:53] Right now.
[1:07:54] It's just that it's too much
to wrap our heads around sometimes.
[1:07:58] If you can, you say, no,
why is it too much to wrap my head around?
[1:08:01] It seems straightforward.
[1:08:03] You're lucky.
[1:08:04] You're lucky.
[1:08:05] That is the non-dual experience.
[1:08:09] This is called,
what do you call this in Sanskrit?
[1:08:12] Advaitam, non-dual.
[1:08:15] This non-dual consciousness, you are.
[1:08:17] This is
the meaning of Tat tvam asi, thou art that.
[1:08:22] This is the extraordinary clarification
of ordinary experience.
[1:08:27] From that perspective, as endless being,
endless awareness, as Ananda,
[1:08:32] fulfillment itself,
I have not argued those points out yet.
[1:08:35] No time.
[1:08:36] But from that perspective,
not as this person, from that perspective,
[1:08:41] what problem do you have?
[1:08:43] Fear of death, the biggie.
[1:08:45] You can't die.
[1:08:45] The body dies.
[1:08:46] You cannot die.
[1:08:48] If the consciousness is not produced by
the brain, as the heart problem
[1:08:52] of consciousness seems to suggest,
why would you think
[1:08:54] that consciousness dies
when the brain dies?
[1:08:57] You don't die with the death of the brain.
[1:09:00] Oh, I have so many issues
and problems and in the mind.
[1:09:05] Is it in consciousness or in the mind?
[1:09:07] It's in the mind.
[1:09:10] Why let it bother you?
[1:09:12] You are consciousness itself.
[1:09:14] You are not the mind.
[1:09:16] You are not the body.
[1:09:18] One way of applying this, one monk put it
beautifully,
[1:09:21] keep things where they belong.
[1:09:25] It sounds like something your mom
would tell you,
[1:09:28] keep things where they belong.
[1:09:29] It was very good advice.
[1:09:31] Where are I becoming old and wrinkled?
[1:09:34] No, no, no, wait.
[1:09:35] Is consciousness becoming wrinkled?
[1:09:37] No,
it's the skin which is becoming wrinkled.
[1:09:40] I am awareness, the unwrinkled.
[1:09:42] I could add that one more.
[1:09:43] The unwrinkled.
[1:09:44] The gapless unwrinkled consciousness.
[1:09:50] Though, there is an old Advaitic text.
[1:10:00] The Changdev Pashashti in Marathi,
where the author, he calls the universe
[1:10:10] a wrinkle in the cloth of consciousness.
[1:10:15] Consciousness,
cloth you fold it, it's a new shape.
[1:10:19] Looks utterly new, but what is it?
[1:10:20] It's through and through the same cloth
and nothing really has happened to
[1:10:24] the cloth except a fold in the cloth.
[1:10:26] Which is an example I've never come across
anywhere else, but a beautiful example.
[1:10:30] It's an example.
[1:10:32] So, if the universe, we always say name
and form,
[1:10:34] but how does the name and form come?
[1:10:36] Think about it as folding
your handkerchief, as folding a napkin.
[1:10:41] It's a fold
in consciousness, in a way of speaking.
[1:10:45] So, this non-dual,
one non-dual consciousness,
[1:10:48] what problem does it have?
[1:10:50] This one non-dual consciousness,
it can't die, it can't get sick,
[1:10:54] it can't be unhappy and what does it need?
[1:11:01] Nothing.
[1:11:02] Because everything is a manifestation
of that thing, of that one consciousness.
[1:11:06] It is appearing as the entire universe.
[1:11:09] All objects, remember?
[1:11:10] Consciousness appearing as all objects.
[1:11:12] What is there
other than this consciousness?
[1:11:14] Nothing.
[1:11:14] It doesn't need anything.
[1:11:15] It is everything, in fact.
[1:11:18] Whom does it hate?
[1:11:21] There's nobody for it to hate.
[1:11:22] Non-dual.
[1:11:23] Everybody is it.
[1:11:24] They are all you.
[1:11:25] You are that, so they all are you.
[1:11:27] Even your worst enemy is you.
[1:11:36] What problem does it have?
[1:11:38] Nothing.
[1:11:41] And then, after all
of this, life will still continue.
[1:11:45] Life will continue.
[1:11:46] Then what can you do?
[1:11:47] You can speak like Dostoevsky.
[1:11:51] In the midst of torment, in the midst
of suffering, physical, mental, emotional,
[1:11:56] in the midst of struggle
and deprivation, I exist.
[1:12:00] I am.
[1:12:02] Can't be doubted.
[1:12:03] Take a look.
[1:12:04] And this I am is the light
which gives me all experiences of life.
[1:12:08] It is the miracle.
[1:12:10] It's the feeling of life itself.
[1:12:12] It's what
Michael Pollan calls the world appears.
[1:12:14] Because of that, it's Sakshi.
[1:12:16] That I am is the Sakshi,
the witness consciousness.
[1:12:19] I'm always there, gaplessly there.
[1:12:23] I am non-stick.
[1:12:25] Whatever appears, comes and goes in
me, but it doesn't stick to me.
[1:12:29] All the torments
of the world, they don't stick to me.
[1:12:32] All the goodies
of the world also don't stick to me.
[1:12:37] And I am not traumatized.
[1:12:39] That I exist, Dostoevsky points out,
my body may be broken by suffering,
[1:12:45] my mind may be traumatized by it,
but that I exist is not affected by it.
[1:12:51] It's still I exist.
[1:12:52] The same I exist.
[1:12:54] In the midst of pain, in the midst
of sitting on top of a pillar,
[1:12:58] loneliness, utter loneliness, I exist.
[1:13:00] It's the same I exist, which is in
the middle of a marketplace also.
[1:13:04] The same I exist.
[1:13:06] What problem does that I exist have?
[1:13:09] Nothing.
[1:13:11] And that's present with us and available
to us at every moment, even
[1:13:15] when we are having problems.
[1:13:16] Because it is our real nature.
[1:13:18] So this living from that I exist,
living from that that asandighdham,
[1:13:26] the sakshi, the nirantara, nirvikara,
samaha, asanga, avyayaha,
[1:13:34] the jyotisham apitad jyoti, the svaprakasha,
aparoksha, advaya consciousness,
[1:13:41] from that perspective,
relief is possible all the time.
[1:13:47] This is enlightenment
in both senses of the word.
[1:13:49] One is enlightenment,
you suddenly, ah I get it.
[1:13:52] The other one is you feel lighter.
[1:13:55] Oh, enlightenment,
the burden is removed right here and now.
[1:14:00] One Buddhist monk put it beautifully.
[1:14:02] A man carrying a heavy burden,
how much weight is there?
[1:14:06] A lot.
[1:14:06] But then suddenly you realize,
no, no, no, it's in a mirror.
[1:14:10] How much weight is the mirror feeling?
[1:14:12] Nothing.
[1:14:14] But the man is there
and the burden is there.
[1:14:16] Nothing.
[1:14:17] It's an appearance.
[1:14:18] Similarly, in the mirror of consciousness,
the entire universe appears along
[1:14:23] with this body and this little life.
[1:14:25] While it appears, you're still free of it.
[1:14:28] That's the beauty of it.
[1:14:29] You don't have to wipe it out.
[1:14:31] You don't have to sit in
meditation and close your eyes.
[1:14:33] I won't look at life,
then I'll be free of it.
[1:14:35] Not necessary.
[1:14:36] You can sit in meditation if you like.
[1:14:38] You can open your eyes
and fully be engaged in life,
[1:14:41] in whatever we are doing
and still be completely free.
[1:14:44] This is called
Jeevan Mukti, free while living.
[1:14:48] I pray on this day when we begin
our fall session, I pray to
[1:14:52] Sri Ramakrishna, Ma Sarada,
Swami Vivekananda to bless all of us
[1:14:57] that this light may dawn in our lives,
that this enlightenment
[1:15:00] may come to us in this very life itself.
[1:15:14] Sri Ramakrishna Arpanamastu