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Inspiration

Dzogchen's Radical Claim: You Already Have Everything

Stephan Pende Wormland
Stephan Pende Wormland
Sep 16, 2021
8 min read

From Stephan Pende Wormland

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The talk opens with a confession. Stephan Pende Wormland, back in a room full of people he has known for years, says he can't quite describe what he came to describe, and that the evenings he leaves with this sense are part of the work. "What to say about the undescribable," he begins, "better to be quiet." What follows is not a lecture on a text so much as an attempt to clear the ground before anyone reads it: a 3-month study of a Dzogchen poem by the 18th-century Tibetan mystic Jigmé Lingpa, read alongside Ken McLeod's fluid contemporary translation and commentary in A Trackless Path. The video is labeled Part 1a, and it is less an introduction to the poem's content than a set of instructions for how to approach it at all.

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What is the poem, and why does its translation matter?

The text is "Revelations of Ever-present Good," drawn from Jigmé Lingpa's Great Vastness Heart Drop cycle. Dzogchen, the Great Perfection, is one of the great wisdom traditions of Tibetan Buddhism, and Jigmé Lingpa wrote many poems about its practice. McLeod's version is what makes the poem reachable for a modern reader. It is not a word-for-word academic rendering. It is written to be fluid, and the commentary is written to be felt as much as understood.

Pende Wormland frames the poem's core claim in a single sentence he repeats in different forms through the talk: "the radical message in this text is that right now in this moment we have everything available to be complete." Most spiritual writing promises completion at the end of a path. This poem says the completeness is already present, and the difficulty is that the mind keeps looking elsewhere for it.

That is why he asks his listeners to hold the sentence loosely. "Don't try to understand that," he says. The instruction for reading the text is to "listen with your whole body with your whole heart and to be curious about your response."

Why can't the conceptual mind read a text like this?

This is the first and most provocative move in the talk. Pende Wormland is not asking students to study harder. He says plainly that the knowledge most of them have brought into the room is, for this purpose, the wrong tool. "Your conceptual mind, your knowledge is in this matter useless," he says, and he names the stance the text demands: a willingness to go beyond what you know.

He places the method in a tradition he calls cutting through, looking through projections, stories and identifications until what remains is seen directly. The difficulty, as he describes it, is that the mind almost immediately reaches for something to hold. Even while listening, he observes, students drift into thinking, discussion, comparison, or trying to understand. He does not scold this. He asks the listener to notice "how deep your refuge is into thinking," and to treat the rare split second of gap, where you are simply here without meaning-giving, as the valuable moment.

The argument underneath is that the sense of separation itself is a thought. "It is meaning giving," he says, "it's a conceptual aspect of our mind which creates the sense of separation." If that is true, then much of what passes for conflict, reactivity and defense is downstream of a projection the mind has never questioned. Cut the projection, and the place where the defense would stand is no longer there.

Who are you without referring to thoughts?

The talk's central practice is a question that sounds simple and is not. Pende Wormland asks listeners to find out who they are without referring to thoughts, including the thought "I am." He acknowledges the strangeness of the instruction. "I don't understand this, it's just a thought," he quotes the mind as saying, and then answers it himself: memory is a thought, your name is a thought, "I'm tired, I'm bored, I'm peaceful" are thoughts too.

His pointer is to turn attention back on itself. Usually attention goes outward to content. He asks the listener to look instead at where attention comes from. Imagine, he suggests, that for a moment you could have no thought at all. You would still be here. Look to that sense of being, the "I am-ness" that comes before any thought, and then notice whether even that "I am" is a thought. He is careful to call this a provisional pointer, "helpful for some people," not a formula.

"You look into thoughts and you miss yourself. How could we ever think that we are thoughts, how could we ever think that we have feelings, because they come and go, they change all the time." (Pende Wormland, this talk, around 16:25)

The implication he draws is worth sitting with. The source of attention, he says, is also the source of the capacity to love and to care. The poem's invitation, read this way, is not to abandon feeling or care but to find them rooted in something that doesn't come and go.

Why is the hunger for an answer part of the problem?

The talk identifies a specific addiction that makes this text difficult: the urge to figure things out. Pende Wormland gives an example from the poem. A reader can understand the sentence that the nature of mind is undescribable and ungraspable. The reader can agree with it. Then the mind asks what it is, waiting for a conceptual answer, and reaches for another book on emptiness or non-duality, where it finds the same sentence again.

His remedy is what he calls not knowing. "It's not understandable but it's knowable," he says, and then undercuts even that, since knowable is "a bit too much to say." Knowing in this sense is not a body of information. It is closer to direct recognition, and it cannot be obtained by accumulating more of the thing the talk is asking you to set down.

He is also honest about how long this takes. The line he draws is not between those who understand and those who don't. It is between the mind's hunger for a resolution and the willingness to stay with the not-resolved long enough to see what is there.

What is the second addiction, and why does it matter?

The second challenge he names is the addiction to doing: fixing, getting somewhere, using spiritual practice to feel better, to be more successful, to be healthier. This is where the talk turns from metaphysics to life. He speaks to a room of people who have, by now, let go of some of their projects. "Relationship project, career project, health project," he lists. Most have seen, at least partly, that none of these will bring genuine happiness or completion.

He is quick to clarify what he does not mean. Giving up the projects is not the point. The point is giving up the hope that any of them, once succeeded at, will make you complete. This distinction matters. It is easy to hear a teaching about non-attachment as a call to withdraw, and Pende Wormland is steering against that reading. The poem's claim is that completion was never a future achievement, which means the relationship and the career can continue to be lived, without carrying the burden of being the thing that finally makes you whole.

Read this way, the two addictions are the same addiction. One looks for the answer in thought, and the other looks for it in accomplishment. Both postpone the completeness the poem says is already here.

Where to go from here

This video is the opening of a longer study, and its own structure reflects that. Pende Wormland circles back repeatedly, sometimes breaking off mid-sentence, sometimes saying the thing he came to say is impossible to say. The method is the message: do not arrive at the text as a student who will master it, but as a listener willing to be undone by it.

For a reader who has not watched, a practical sequence follows from what he describes. Start by taking the central sentence, that right now you have everything available to be complete, and sit with it without trying to decode it. Notice the moment your mind reaches for a concept, a story or a spiritual idea to explain it, and simply see that reach. Then, briefly, ask the question he returns to again and again: without referring to thoughts, who is it that is aware of this?

The full text, and the course built on it, are based on Ken McLeod's A Trackless Path. The talk itself is the teacher's own voice working through that poem, and it is at its best when it refuses to resolve. As Pende Wormland puts it in one of his plainest moments, the most wonderful novel in your head about reality and karma "is not going to quench the thirst." The poem's answer is not a better novel. It is the stillness that the novel was trying to point at.

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[0:39] what to say about the undescribable

[0:42] ungraspable

[0:49] better to be quiet

[1:02] but i'm really happy to see all of you

[1:04] again

[1:08] it's really nice

[1:10] it feels a long time ago but then also

[1:13] not

[1:14] so

[1:16] strange

[1:20] i can't even remember when i was here

[1:22] last time

[1:25] but

[1:28] yeah still

[1:31] there is a bond or

[1:34] a connection

[1:45] and i'm really looking forward

[1:50] to explore this

[1:52] text with you

[2:15] and i'm happy that

[2:19] many of

[2:20] you i know since

[2:22] a lot of years and you're still hanging

[2:24] in there

[2:28] so there is also

[2:32] in myself i think more trust and

[2:35] capacity

[2:38] to go into paradox and

[2:42] contradict myself and

[2:45] leaving the evenings

[2:47] with a sense that

[2:50] i couldn't say what i wanted to say

[2:53] because i can't

[3:01] so the subjects

[3:03] matter or the invitation of this text is

[3:12] non-duality

[3:20] it is exploring the possibility to

[3:23] awake

[3:25] to awake from

[3:29] the illusion of separation

[3:33] to wake from

[3:36] the illusion of a separate solid eye

[3:41] to awake from the identification with

[3:45] the narrative self and all its suffering

[3:48] and struggle and

[3:50] aggression and violence and addiction

[4:03] into

[4:05] sort of awake from

[4:07] confusion into

[4:19] yeah what word one can choose

[4:22] many words

[4:24] also in this text metaphors

[4:28] the tibetan word would be rekbar

[4:36] unconditioned awareness pure awareness

[4:48] essence love

[5:02] your true self

[5:10] and the radical message in this

[5:14] text is

[5:16] that right now in this moment we have

[5:18] everything available to be complete

[5:40] so now when i say a sentence like that

[5:45] this very moment you have everything

[5:47] available to be complete

[5:51] don't try to understand that

[6:01] so the way to

[6:04] relate to these teachings and to this

[6:06] text is to listen with your whole body

[6:08] with your whole heart

[6:10] and to be curious about your response

[6:21] right now

[6:24] in this moment

[6:27] you have everything available to be

[6:29] complete

[6:40] just

[6:41] listen inside what

[6:44] what comes up for you

[6:59] if you don't

[7:00] refer to

[7:03] your conceptual mind if you don't refer

[7:06] to

[7:07] thoughts

[7:09] if you don't refer to what you have

[7:11] learned

[7:13] if you don't refer to

[7:17] spiritual

[7:18] religious scientific knowledge

[8:02] what does your heart say

[8:12] so something

[8:14] in you deep deep you know below the

[8:17] layers of all

[8:18] the hopes and fears be all below the

[8:21] layers of

[8:23] the identification what you think you

[8:25] are is there something which says

[8:29] maybe quite loudly

[8:31] yes

[8:33] i know

[8:34] finally

[8:36] finally i hear that

[8:40] or maybe it is just a faint whisper

[8:44] like a memory from childhood

[8:48] where

[8:50] education and culture have not screwed

[8:53] up your being

[9:01] where you

[9:02] were more deeply connected with your

[9:04] natural self

[9:21] so this is the way

[9:24] how to read this text

[9:29] your conceptual mind

[9:31] your knowledge

[9:37] is in this matter useless

[9:46] and this is the big challenge

[9:49] in this text

[9:53] to dare

[9:55] to have the willingness

[9:57] the

[9:59] courage to go beyond what you know

[10:03] to cut through it

[10:09] the

[10:13] this text belongs to a

[10:15] approach with in the suction tradition

[10:19] which is called traction cutting through

[10:24] cutting through through the

[10:27] projections

[10:28] stories

[10:30] identifications

[10:32] looking through

[10:38] and this is scary because

[10:41] even right now

[10:43] probably you notice

[10:45] that your mind goes into thoughts

[10:50] into discussion

[10:52] into trying to understand

[10:54] into comparing

[10:59] maybe into something which is completely

[11:01] unrelated

[11:03] maybe it is related what i'm saying

[11:09] so notice how deep your refuge is into

[11:12] thinking

[11:18] and how precious this moments are

[11:22] maybe even a split of a second where

[11:24] there's a gap

[11:29] and you're just here

[11:36] just

[11:37] this

[11:40] without referring to thoughts

[11:43] without referring to meaning giving

[11:49] and this process can

[11:51] go deeper and deeper and deeper

[11:54] because

[11:55] initially we are not even aware that the

[11:58] sense of separation we have

[12:02] is just a thought

[12:05] it is meaning giving

[12:07] it's a conceptual aspect of our mind

[12:10] which creates the sense of separation

[12:20] without that layer

[12:23] of projections

[12:27] there would be no reactivity

[12:30] there would be no violence coming from

[12:32] here

[12:34] there would be nothing here to defend

[12:38] because it is seen that separation is

[12:43] a projection

[12:44] a function of the conceptual mind so

[12:47] cutting through through all of that

[13:12] in other words this text is an

[13:14] invitation to

[13:27] it's so difficult to say anything it's

[13:29] amazing

[13:40] an invitation to discover

[13:45] who you are

[13:48] without referring to thoughts

[13:55] so who are you without referring to

[13:58] thoughts

[14:12] i don't understand this it's just a

[14:13] thought

[14:19] i don't know what he's talking about

[14:20] it's just a thought

[14:28] of course any memory

[14:30] connected with the past is just just a

[14:33] thought

[14:34] your name is just the thought

[14:39] i am like this and that is just a

[14:42] thought

[14:45] even

[14:46] i'm tired i'm bored

[14:50] i'm peaceful it's just a thought

[14:56] and i can see your eyes go there and

[14:58] they go there you looked into thoughts

[15:04] you look into thoughts

[15:08] and you miss yourself

[15:15] you miss yourself

[15:22] how could we ever think that we are

[15:23] thoughts

[15:26] how could we ever think that we have

[15:27] feelings because they come and go

[15:31] they change all the time there's nothing

[15:34] solid nothing nothing you can hold on

[15:36] and feelings and thoughts

[15:46] so who are you without referring to

[15:49] thoughts

[16:02] it's okay there no

[16:05] since we have not stabilized our mind

[16:08] through meditation or

[16:10] maybe we are not very skilled in that

[16:12] that doesn't matter thoughts can happen

[16:14] just don't look there look to yourself

[16:23] i mean imagine you could

[16:25] manage like for a moment not to have any

[16:28] thought

[16:30] you still you would be still here

[16:39] look there

[16:44] to that i am-ness which is prior

[16:48] to any thought

[16:52] and then

[16:53] realize that even i am

[16:55] is this a thought

[17:13] another way to

[17:15] describe this movement

[17:17] provisionally but

[17:19] it's it's a helpful pointer for

[17:22] some people is to

[17:26] bring attention back to itself

[17:32] usually our attention goes to thoughts

[17:39] but where does the attention come from

[17:44] what's the source

[17:48] the source of your attention

[17:50] which is also the source of your

[17:52] capacity to love

[17:54] to care

[18:11] so in this

[18:16] journey now

[18:20] meeting this text

[18:25] we become more and more curious about

[18:31] that which is thinking

[18:35] and not

[18:37] what's the content of the thoughts

[18:51] for this moment to become possible

[18:56] you really

[18:57] really

[19:00] need to get up need to get need to get

[19:06] you really need to

[19:08] let go

[19:10] give up

[19:14] this hope

[19:16] that what you are seeking is found in

[19:17] thought

[19:23] that what you're really

[19:25] yearning for

[19:28] is found in thought

[19:32] even if it's a wonderful spiritual

[19:34] thought a wonderful spiritual

[19:37] story to really give that up to have

[19:40] seen that

[19:45] i can have the most most wonderful

[19:47] novel in my head about

[19:50] reality and karma and how everything

[19:53] functions and

[19:56] and so on

[19:59] that's just the thought

[20:01] it's not going to

[20:03] quench the thirst

[20:06] it's not home

[20:08] it's not safe

[20:09] it's not a refuge

[20:20] instead this text invites us

[20:26] to take refuge into stillness

[20:34] into a non-conceptual

[20:39] knowing

[20:52] so one challenge with this text is

[20:55] our addiction to

[20:57] figure things out

[21:03] of course

[21:05] we can understand the sentence

[21:09] emptiness pressure parameter non-duality

[21:13] the nature of your mind

[21:15] rigba is undescribable and graspable

[21:20] we can understand that sentence yeah

[21:22] okay it's under

[21:23] it's it's ungraspable it's undescribable

[21:26] but what is it

[21:36] waiting for a conceptual answer

[21:39] reading another book another non-dual

[21:41] book

[21:42] another book about emptiness and again

[21:45] reading in that book

[21:46] it's undescribable it's ungraspable

[21:53] yeah if i've heard that before but i

[21:55] still haven't understood it yes it's not

[21:59] understandable

[22:04] but it's knowable

[22:06] even that is a bit

[22:08] too much to say it's knowable

[22:12] so that's why this is sometimes called

[22:14] not knowing

[22:34] the other challenge

[22:36] which we will come across

[22:38] in our being while we're listening to

[22:41] this text

[22:43] is our addiction to doing

[22:46] to fixing

[22:48] to getting somewhere

[22:51] our addiction to self-development

[22:55] our addiction particular

[22:58] to get out out

[23:01] to get from spiritual practice something

[23:03] for me

[23:12] to feel better

[23:15] to be more successful

[23:19] to be more healthy

[23:20] for me

[23:35] and i guess most of us here

[23:41] we have

[23:43] at least

[23:45] let go of some of the projects in our

[23:47] life

[23:49] in the sense of that we see

[23:52] that these projects none of these

[23:54] projects will bring us into completion

[23:57] none of this project projects

[23:59] will make us genuinely happy

[24:02] the relationship pro pro the

[24:05] relationship project the career project

[24:07] the health project

[24:11] so because we are old enough probably

[24:14] to have tried a few things and we have

[24:16] also seen our parents failing

[24:22] but

[24:23] and i'm not saying that means we give up

[24:25] all these projects yeah so that's not

[24:28] what i mean here it's just giving up the

[24:30] hope that they will bring us home

[24:33] that any of these projects will

[24:35] be complete and will us make will will

[24:38] will make us complete once we once we

[24:42] succeeded in that project

[24:45] but probably

[24:47] what we will have to confront

[24:50] when we meet this text

[24:53] is

[24:54] the spiritual project

[25:03] the progress of path

[25:08] the idea of training

[25:13] the

[25:16] the sense that

[25:19] i'm not good enough

[25:23] something is missing

[25:25] and that's something i can get in the

[25:27] future if i'm a good boy and a good girl

[25:29] and i do the steps and

[25:32] i do this and that and i do the 100 000

[25:34] of that and i do all these studies and

[25:37] then i learn tibetan and

[25:43] and

[25:44] this is particularly difficult

[25:46] for people who invested many many years

[25:49] into this project

[25:58] so

[26:01] when we work with this text

[26:04] and we listen to these invitations

[26:11] yeah be aware of those two parts of you

[26:14] the doer and the thinker

[26:18] how do they feel how where do they come

[26:20] up

[26:23] be curious about them

[26:27] make them part of this journey

[26:46] it could be that one of the most

[26:48] important

[26:52] orientations

[26:56] which we need

[26:59] when we

[27:01] make this journey with this text is

[27:07] an uncomprising

[27:10] intention to wake up

[27:17] and to wake up not

[27:21] in a distant future or in a next life

[27:26] but to wake up

[27:28] in this life

[27:31] and of course waking up can be described

[27:34] on different levels and there's many

[27:36] different shifts and insights and we

[27:38] will look into that

[27:41] but

[27:42] do you have

[27:44] an uncomprising determination to be free

[27:47] of suffering in this life

[27:53] meaning

[27:55] you have you have an intuition a trust

[27:59] that that is actually possible

[28:02] and not only

[28:04] possible for tibetans and for

[28:07] the special people

[28:09] but possible for you

[28:13] for the messed up you

[28:17] for the stupid you

[28:28] so an uncompromising intention intuition

[28:36] which

[28:40] when you feel into it you might

[28:42] acknowledge it as something which has

[28:44] been there

[28:47] since a long time maybe since childhood

[28:50] or as a teenager

[28:52] where the first first time

[28:55] a

[28:57] call

[28:58] awoken you

[29:00] a sense of being called but also a call

[29:03] from inside

[29:15] and then periods in our life where we

[29:17] don't listen to that call anymore

[29:22] where we disregard

[29:28] and now

[29:31] especially now

[29:36] because we enter this text

[29:39] we know each other

[29:42] we bring

[29:43] together as a group

[29:45] meditative experience into this journey

[29:49] enough knowledge

[29:51] enough practice

[29:53] we have done the groundwork

[29:57] we have done the lamiram we have done

[29:59] bodhichitta

[30:01] we have done

[30:03] kriya yoga tantra practice

[30:08] it's enough

[30:12] so now is the time to really

[30:16] get into that

[30:19] passion

[30:22] to prioritize awakening

[30:26] meaning

[30:33] liberation from suffering

[30:40] not liberation from pain

[30:42] not liberation from difficult feelings

[30:44] not liberation from

[30:46] sickness old age and death

[30:50] liberation from suffering

[31:08] and then not only that but liberation

[31:10] from suffering for the benefit of all

[31:28] so that is a very important orientation

[31:33] and

[31:37] if that is not available for you

[31:41] that's fine maybe it will awaken

[31:44] throughout

[31:45] the journey with this text

[31:51] or it will be rekindled

[32:02] so that's one point

[32:04] so like a general orientation

[32:08] the second

[32:11] trust your intuition

[32:18] and here on tuition again not

[32:22] up here

[32:25] but a

[32:26] a deep

[32:28] silent intuition

[32:34] it's time

[32:42] to rely more upon

[32:49] the quiet

[32:51] knowingness in your own being

[32:54] than any book

[32:55] any teacher

[32:56] anything what and what anyone says

[33:01] including me of course

[33:04] that's not so difficult i guess but

[33:06] but even

[33:08] texts like that

[33:12] rely on your intuition

[33:16] because

[33:18] the very foundation of this invitation

[33:21] in this text is

[33:23] the assumption that

[33:25] awakening is already here awakeness is

[33:28] already here

[33:31] nobody can give it to you

[33:39] it's not found in books it's not no

[33:41] teacher can give it to you it's not

[33:43] found in other places it's also not

[33:45] found in other

[33:46] life circumstances

[34:06] and it's also it's so important to

[34:08] [Music]

[34:12] listen to the whispers in your heart

[34:16] the whispers

[34:23] in

[34:24] in your capacity to love everything

[34:34] because

[34:36] it seems for me that the process of

[34:39] awakening is different for everyone

[34:54] so the third orientation

[35:03] is

[35:07] a willingness

[35:10] a ruthless willingness

[35:12] to feel all your feelings

[35:19] and to be

[35:21] radical authentic with that

[35:41] this is so important

[35:47] to make a commitment

[35:50] not only the commitment to awakening

[35:54] but also the commitment

[35:57] i

[35:58] will be

[35:59] radically

[36:00] loyal

[36:02] to my feelings

[36:07] particularly the unspiritual feelings

[36:26] one reason for that is

[36:29] i talked about spiritual bypassing

[36:31] before

[36:35] it's easy to

[36:39] for the narrative self for the neurotic

[36:41] self

[36:43] to use teachings on one non-duality and

[36:46] non-self

[36:47] just to

[36:49] not be who you are and not to be

[36:51] authentic who you are

[36:53] and not to be loyal to

[36:56] to

[36:57] to your greed to your addiction to

[37:00] to the many things which are

[37:02] coming out

[37:04] which you are ashamed of or

[37:06] or you not even become aware of because

[37:09] it's so embarrassing

[37:14] but the other reason is

[37:17] it seems that

[37:19] the indus in this processes of awakening

[37:22] where we

[37:24] let go of our defense mechanism

[37:30] that

[37:32] unfelt feeling emerge

[37:47] oh

[37:52] so this

[37:55] process of cutting through our

[37:57] projections

[38:00] into the experience of non-duality

[38:04] obviously

[38:06] is the most meaningful and the most

[38:08] beautiful

[38:10] the most relieving the most healing the

[38:13] most liberating experience

[38:16] but it is also the most difficult

[38:19] the most challenging

[38:27] nobody ever regretted it

[38:31] but actually some people want

[38:35] to think

[38:37] to check

[38:38] do you really want to

[38:40] do you really want

[38:46] to break your heart open

[38:47] do we really want that

[38:58] and if the answer is yes

[39:02] get over it quickly

[39:06] don't don't drag it along

[39:35] so i'm not

[39:36] expecting that we will finish this text

[39:42] i i don't think we are we will get to

[39:44] the title today

[39:48] and i i guess we will

[39:51] continue

[39:52] with that pace

[39:56] um

[39:57] so

[40:00] we can continue next year or

[40:04] if if we are not going through the text

[40:08] and

[40:13] if it's possible for you and if you find

[40:15] that

[40:17] connection

[40:18] with that text

[40:21] then

[40:22] regard this text as a life's companion

[40:28] you know something

[40:30] which you have

[40:32] around something you refer to again and

[40:35] again

[40:36] something which is

[40:39] a source of inspiration a source of rem

[40:42] a source of reminders

[40:46] and

[40:49] i said that before but

[40:53] don't regard this text as a source for

[40:55] information

[40:59] as a source for understanding

[41:02] we have covered that

[41:04] you know enough

[41:05] you know enough about the buddhist

[41:07] teachings

[41:09] there is not much much more i mean of

[41:11] course look tradition they go so

[41:13] complicated

[41:15] you can spend your whole life

[41:17] reading text and studying

[41:20] but most of here of us here

[41:24] we have

[41:25] received them basic teachings that

[41:28] that's it

[41:32] we do we we don't need to

[41:35] put 10 more the years of studying yet

[41:38] another lamrim text

[41:41] it's the same yeah

[41:49] so this text can be seen actually

[41:52] as

[41:54] your own buddha nature your own

[41:56] knowingness

[41:57] speaking to you

[42:00] now the

[42:01] the tech the the title of the root text

[42:05] which is written by jing milingpa in the

[42:09] 18th century

[42:11] it's called revelation of ever-present

[42:15] good

[42:17] revelations of ever present good

[42:24] i mean just ever-present good

[42:28] is a word to kind of you know

[42:36] it's like

[42:37] i mean if you would see this text as

[42:40] a source of information you would just

[42:43] read okay this is a tag this is a title

[42:46] revelations of ever present good so

[42:48] what's what is it about yeah

[42:52] but actually

[42:54] this is like a mantra which we can sing

[42:57] which we can

[43:00] dwell in not understanding i mean of

[43:03] course we can now discuss your

[43:05] ever-present good yeah so what's with

[43:07] the war with what's with the contra

[43:09] concentration camps not like that yeah

[43:13] have a present good

[43:16] and maybe this doesn't resonate with you

[43:18] so it's a lot about resonance

[43:22] so the the transmission happens through

[43:24] resonance

[43:26] not through understanding

[43:29] so maybe ever present good revelations

[43:31] of ever

[43:33] it's like for me it's like wow ah

[43:37] it's like revelations of ever present

[43:39] good

[43:41] yeah maybe for you it's nothing yeah

[43:44] but hopefully

[43:47] there will be

[43:49] a word a metaphor a poem in this text

[43:54] which will

[43:56] resonate

[43:58] with what is already awake in you

[44:05] of course in one

[44:08] in one way

[44:12] when i talk but also when when you when

[44:14] we read the commentary of ken mccloud

[44:20] there's all there is a bit of talk to

[44:22] the narrative self as well to the one

[44:24] who wants to know and the one who wants

[44:26] to do something

[44:28] and the one who wants to get something

[44:30] out of this for me yeah so there's a bit

[44:34] of that

[44:36] and it's also probably this one who

[44:38] brought you here

[44:43] but actually

[44:46] that's not the audience for this text

[44:49] it's just a bystander

[44:51] who gets a bit of

[44:53] candies

[44:54] uh

[44:55] so that it stays yeah

[44:58] a bit of hope

[45:02] yeah

[45:03] i'm i'm saying

[45:06] i'm saying there's nothing in you for

[45:08] there is nothing here for you but

[45:10] actually there is something like that

[45:13] yeah

[45:14] because it's liberation it's freedom for

[45:17] suffering

[45:22] it's freedom from suffering so the

[45:25] the

[45:27] the eye as a separate eye likes to hear

[45:29] that

[45:31] and stays around

[45:39] but this is not the real audience the

[45:41] real audience of this text is

[45:45] that which is already awake

[45:52] and entering this text

[45:57] is like entering

[46:00] what is connecting is

[46:03] listening

[46:05] to your own buddha nature

[46:08] to your own awakeness

[46:14] ever-present good is

[46:18] the translation

[46:21] can make lloyd choose for samantha badra

[46:26] the primordial buddha

[46:29] buddha nature

[46:33] so the title of this texas is

[46:35] revelations

[46:36] of

[46:38] your own buddha nature your own

[46:41] radiant innate

[46:43] wisdom

[46:44] and capacity to love everything

[47:08] this text

[47:11] has

[47:12] the capacity to be a bit destabilizing

[47:21] for example can mccloyd

[47:25] after

[47:27] he taught some of the retreats called

[47:30] trackless path

[47:32] he gave up to be a teacher

[47:35] he stopped teaching

[47:38] and he was a known teacher he was a

[47:39] successful teacher

[47:42] he could he could have

[47:44] done that for the rest of his life

[47:47] he couldn't anymore

[47:56] he still writes books he shares through

[47:58] his writings

[48:01] but he's not teaching anymore

[48:18] let's see

[48:26] so i really recommend you

[48:28] if you have not already

[48:31] ordered this book

[48:34] i have it on my kindle but

[48:36] it's because i travel so much but

[48:39] it's actually good to get a hard copy of

[48:41] this book so that you can

[48:43] have it around and

[48:45] just look at it and keep it as a

[48:47] reminder on your

[48:49] on your uh

[48:51] wherever you like to read um

[48:53] thinking this is uh

[48:56] it's worth to get a hard copy

[48:58] of this book

[49:00] it's called the trackless path yeah

[49:02] that's the title

[49:04] ken mccloyd gave

[49:06] to his commentary

[49:09] and

[49:11] we have a break soon so the original

[49:15] text is written by jing milinpa

[49:18] a mystic from the 18th century

[49:23] who spent most of his life in retreat

[49:26] what is interesting

[49:28] one of the things interesting about his

[49:30] life he is self-taught

[49:33] he didn't study so

[49:37] he's not like a scholar

[49:39] um

[49:40] and ken mcleod says that

[49:43] it shows in his writings he uses a bit

[49:46] more intimate a bit more direct

[49:49] not like scholarly loaded language

[49:55] and when we read this text

[49:58] keep in mind these are poems

[50:03] so what that means is

[50:07] now what a poem does or tries to do is

[50:10] to

[50:12] transmit an experience

[50:14] from the poet to the one who is reading

[50:20] and maybe you are someone who has

[50:22] difficulties

[50:24] to read poems

[50:26] maybe you're not interested in them

[50:29] because

[50:30] they don't make sense they don't make

[50:32] sense to the

[50:33] rational mind

[50:36] or maybe you're someone who doesn't like

[50:38] to

[50:39] look at paintings

[50:41] and just

[50:43] modeling at the experience and being

[50:46] there in a non-dual

[50:48] in a non-conceptual experience of the

[50:51] music or the art or the architecture

[50:57] so

[51:00] yeah it's good to

[51:03] to see that we all have our talents and

[51:06] and our

[51:09] obstacles

[51:14] so when we read this poem

[51:18] i

[51:19] i mentioned it already

[51:25] the most important thing here to be

[51:27] curious about is

[51:29] what is happening in you

[51:35] what is happening in you

[51:38] if i say revelations of ever-present

[51:41] good

[51:55] so jing mi lingpa is

[51:57] seen as

[51:59] an incarnation of another

[52:01] tibetan mystic long champa

[52:05] who lived in the 14th century

[52:08] and these two together

[52:10] they

[52:12] framed or they

[52:14] influenced

[52:16] the structure of the ningmah tradition

[52:18] of tibetan buddhism

[52:22] mainly i mean they are the two main

[52:25] pillars of the nima tradition

[52:30] and it seems that i don't know if it's

[52:33] true for this poem but

[52:35] that

[52:38] a lot of the jingma

[52:40] jing melinpa's writings

[52:42] are seen as

[52:46] the

[52:49] discoveries of

[52:56] therma's

[52:57] is the tibetan word

[52:59] mind treasures

[53:02] which

[53:06] the mind stream of

[53:09] long shank bar

[53:11] carried

[53:12] through the centuries until that mind

[53:15] stream embodies itself in

[53:17] the life of jing milingpa

[53:20] carrying this mind treasures

[53:22] in him

[53:24] and then it was the time for them to be

[53:26] discovered by jing milingpa

[53:29] but

[53:31] they

[53:33] are kind of written by longchang bar

[53:37] not written in a physical form

[53:44] is what in the tibetan

[53:46] tradition is called a turtan

[53:49] people

[53:50] mystics who have the capacity to

[53:54] discover these

[53:56] mind treasures these

[53:59] hidden texts

[54:03] but i'm not sure if that

[54:05] is true for this poem maybe not

[54:08] this poem seems to be more a

[54:11] spontaneous sharing

[54:14] of jing melinka

[54:16] of his experience of non-duality

[54:28] what makes

[54:30] this translation particular accessible

[54:33] to us

[54:34] is

[54:36] that it was translated by ken mccloyd

[54:40] because ken mccloyd is one of those

[54:42] translators

[54:45] who is more

[54:47] committed

[54:50] to

[54:54] transmit the experience which is

[54:56] expressed

[54:58] in the poem than being true to the

[55:00] original words

[55:04] which is also a valuable way to

[55:06] translate a text to kind of be a

[55:10] like a tight ass around what the words

[55:14] mean

[55:15] and to be true to that

[55:18] but

[55:19] of course in poems

[55:22] it's a different thing

[55:26] to

[55:27] to translate in another language into

[55:30] another culture

[55:35] uh a poem

[55:37] much more is needed than knowing the

[55:39] words

[55:44] and uh can mccloyd dares to do that

[55:47] based on his

[55:49] whole life of

[55:53] of

[55:55] priority

[55:57] prioritizing in that

[55:59] in that

[56:01] in that passion which i mentioned in the

[56:04] beginning the intention to wake up

[56:08] the intention to

[56:12] whether the willingness to make that

[56:15] knowing this particular way of knowing

[56:18] the main thing in his life

[56:24] so based on that

[56:26] he dares to

[56:28] transmit to us

[56:31] in his translation

[56:33] the experience of jing miling power

[56:36] of non-duality of our true nature

[56:51] okay so let's have a break 10 minutes

[56:57] and then after the break we will sit

[56:59] quietly

[57:00] i just got into talking

[57:04] but

[57:07] let's sit quietly after the break

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Dzogchen, the Great Perfection, is one of the great wisdom traditions of Tibetan Buddhism. In this talk, Pende Wormland presents Jigmé Lingpa's poem "Revelations of Ever-present Good" as teaching that, right now, we have everything available to be complete.
The speaker describes cutting through as looking through the projections, stories and identifications the mind creates, until what is underneath can be seen directly. He says the sense of separation is itself a conceptual projection, and that seeing it clearly removes the ground for reactivity and defense.
Pende Wormland suggests turning attention back on itself and looking at where attention comes from, rather than at the content of thoughts. He points to a sense of being, the 'I am-ness' that comes before any thought, and asks whether even that is a thought.
Yes. According to the video description, McLeod presents a fluid contemporary translation of the poem in A Trackless Path, with commentary, and the 3-month course in the description works from McLeod's book.
In the talk, Pende Wormland says that the conceptual mind and existing knowledge get in the way, because the text asks the reader to go beyond what they know. He recommends listening with the whole body and the heart, and noticing one's own response rather than referring to learned spiritual or scientific ideas.
Not according to this talk. Pende Wormland says he does not mean giving up the projects, but giving up the hope that any of them, once completed, will make a person complete or genuinely happy.

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