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Your Multidimensional Soul: Channeling, Energy and Boundaries

Justin Michael Williams
Justin Michael Williams
May 20, 2023
9 min read
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Picture a live webinar filling up with the same character typed over and over. Justin Michael Williams, a spiritual teacher who describes his work as bringing "what is sometimes unconscious into the conscious," asks the room to type the number one "a whole bunch of times" whenever something lands. He has just introduced his guest, Lee Harris, an intuitive channeler and the author of Awaken Your Multidimensional Soul, and he tells the audience that Harris's albums have charted at number one on the iTunes and Amazon New Age lists. What follows, over an hour and eight minutes, is a working tour of an idea that sits at the center of Harris's teaching: that a human being is far larger than the version they usually live inside, and that the thing shrinking the view is tightness, in thought, feeling and belief. Below, the core ideas from that conversation are laid out so that a reader who never watched can weigh them, test them and decide what to do with them.

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What does "multidimensional soul" mean in this conversation?

Harris traces the book's title to a series of conversations between himself and his guides, with psychotherapist Diana Edwards as the other voice in the work. He told the webinar that he has been channeling since he was 23, which by his count is 24 years, and that he has been a spiritual seeker for 31. The material, as he describes it, addresses "this very specific difficult chapter" the planet is moving through, and it runs on a timeline "from now to 2050," connecting the human being to Earth and to a wider place in the universe.

Harris is careful to say that the guides speak in broad strokes but always return to the individual. In his words: "they always bring it back to the human, and they're always saying you are far more than you realize or have been trained to allow yourselves to see yourselves as."

The weight of that sentence sits in the word trained. The claim is not that a person must become something new. It is that a narrow self-image was learned, and can be unlearned. "Multidimensional" in this sense is less a metaphysical map than a posture: the assumption that there is more going on in you, and around you, than your habitual perception registers. Harris's framing treats awareness as something that can widen, and treats the feeling of being small as a symptom of the narrowing rather than a fact about who you are.

"Whenever I get a little tight in my thoughts or my feelings or my ideas or my beliefs, I speak to them about what I'm tight about, and they just show me the higher levels and the wider levels, and then my whole body relaxes." (Lee Harris, live webinar, 2023)

Why does tightness matter so much to the practice?

This is the most practical thread in the conversation, and it is worth slowing down on. Harris does not describe tightness as a moral failing. He describes it as a physical and mental state that narrows what a person can perceive. When he notices that he has gripped an idea, he names the grip out loud, asks for a wider view, and the body lets go. The sequence matters: naming comes first, widening second, and the release is felt in the body rather than only understood in the head.

For a reader, the useful translation is simple. Most people have a few places where they clench: a belief about what they deserve, a story about a relationship, a fixed idea about their health or their work. Harris's method suggests writing the clench down in one plain sentence, then asking a broader question about it. Not "what is wrong with me?" but "what would I see if I were not holding this?" The test is physical. If the shoulders, jaw or belly soften, the widening has happened. If they stay locked, the question was still a narrow one.

Williams picks up a related thread when he describes his own relationship to growth. He says he is wary of the sense that you must become fully healed before you can act, and the webinar returns several times to the idea that you do not have to wait for perfection to begin noticing your own contraction.

How do you own your energy in a crowded room?

One of the more concrete passages in the session concerns energy ownership. Harris says he has learned how to own his energy, and his example is ordinary: walking into a shopping mall or a busy public space, where a person can absorb the moods of everyone nearby without noticing. The point is not to become cold or closed off. It is to recognize that the agitation, rush or sadness in a room is not automatically yours, and to decide which part of what you are feeling belongs to you.

Williams responds to this with real enthusiasm, saying he loves the idea because boundaries are something he finds practically useful in his own life. That exchange is a useful reminder that the spiritual language of energy and the everyday language of boundaries are often describing the same skill. A boundary, in this sense, is not a wall. It is a clear sense of where your attention and feeling end and someone else's begin.

Readers who find the vocabulary of energy abstract can translate it into three questions to ask during a hard moment in public. Is this feeling new, or did I walk in carrying it? Is this tension coming from the people around me, from my own thoughts, or from both? What would I do if I trusted that I could set this down for a few minutes? None of these require belief in channeling to be useful.

How can you tell whether a spiritual teacher's work is genuinely steeped?

Williams opens the session by being unusually direct about how he vets teachers. He says his inbox is full of new coaches and self-help figures claiming something that will change lives, and that his test is a single question: "how deeply steeped does this work feel?" He is looking for evidence that the person speaking has spent real time and energy inside the practices, so that the teaching comes through them in its own form rather than as "rinsing and repeating" a version of what is circulating online.

That standard is worth borrowing regardless of whether you find Harris's channeling persuasive. When you hear a teacher, ask whether they can describe the practice in their own specific words, with the rough edges intact, and whether they can say what it cost them or how it changed their daily habits. Teaching that is only repeated sounds smooth and general. Teaching that has been lived tends to be specific, a little odd, and willing to name limits.

It is also fair to note what the webinar does not settle. The channeling itself, the guides and the 2050 timeline are Harris's own account of his experience, and they are presented as such. Readers can take the practices of naming tightness, widening attention and owning energy on their own terms, while treating the cosmology as a claim to be weighed rather than accepted.

What happens when the audience becomes part of the teaching?

Much of the energy of the session comes from how it is run. Williams sets up a "snapping, clapping corner" in the chat, asking viewers to type the number one whenever they feel agreement, and he invites them to copy down any "golden nuggets" so that the key points can be gathered at the end. He is clear that this is a live exchange rather than a recording, and that the whole room is part of the work. He also tells viewers that anyone who comes on camera to ask a question will be recorded and posted to YouTube, and asks them to consider their privacy before doing so.

That structure is itself a lesson in the ideas under discussion. A group that is asked to notice when something lands, to name it and to share it is practicing the same skill Harris describes at the individual level: recognizing contraction and expansion as they happen, out loud, and letting the body register the difference.

Where does the message go from here?

Near the end of the portion of the transcript available, Williams flags a passage he wants viewers to hold on to, and the session moves toward closing remarks about the community sharing a space. Williams's final emphasis is on mutual support: the idea that the people in the room have one another's backs, and that the growth they are describing is not a solitary project. That framing matches the rest of the conversation, which keeps returning to the individual while insisting that the individual is never alone in a larger field.

The honest takeaway is this. The most transferable material in the webinar is not the timeline or the cosmology. It is the small, testable practice: name the place where you are tight, ask for a wider view, and notice what your body does. Pair that with a clear sense of which feelings are yours in a crowded room, and with the discernment Williams models when he asks how deeply steeped a teaching really is.

Where to go from here

If this conversation opened a question for you, the next step is to go to the source. Harris's book, Awaken Your Multidimensional Soul, is the second in his Conversations with the Z's series and expands on the material discussed here. His website, LeeHarrisEnergy.com, is listed in the video description. The description also links to a separate interview Williams refers to in the session, a conversation with Sonya Renee Taylor titled in the description as "How to Love Your Body." Watch the full webinar to hear the exchanges in context, including the audience questions and the closing remarks.

Try the tightness practice for one week. Each time you notice a clench in your thinking or your body, name it in a single sentence and ask a wider question about it. Keep a note of what softens and what does not. That is the most direct way to test whether the teaching holds up in your own life.

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[0:02] Welcome everybody. Welcome everybody.

[0:05] Welcome everybody. Come on in.

[0:08] Come on in. Come on in. Turn your

[0:10] cameras on.

[0:12] We want to see you. Welcome. Welcome.

[0:14] Welcome.

[0:16] Hello everybody. We're so excited to be

[0:18] here with you.

[0:20] Come on in. I see everybody coming in.

[0:23] So we are in for a very special session

[0:26] today. My name is Justin Michael

[0:28] Williams. I know many of you know me, so

[0:30] I won't be long here about introducing

[0:32] myself, but I'm really passionate about

[0:34] bringing consciousness to bringing what

[0:37] is sometimes unconscious into the

[0:38] conscious into the world so we can live

[0:40] better lives and step into the highest

[0:42] versions of ourselves. And today I have

[0:45] a very special guest with me who I have

[0:48] been looking forward to interviewing for

[0:50] so long because this human does

[0:54] so many special things in the world and

[0:56] brings so many gifts. I would like to

[0:59] have everybody who knows. I just I would

[1:02] I If you know of Lee Harris's work,

[1:05] put some ones in the chat box. Just put

[1:07] a the number one a whole bunch of times

[1:09] like this in the chat box. If you know

[1:11] Lee Harris's work because you are really

[1:13] in for a special treat today with the

[1:17] gift of the message that Lee brings. And

[1:20] so I'm going to just do the proper

[1:22] introduction of Lee and then I'll share

[1:24] something a little personal that we're

[1:26] going to jump right in. And so Lee

[1:27] Harris is the author of Awaken Your

[1:30] Multi- dimensional

[1:32] Soul, which is the second book in his

[1:35] Conversations with the Z's series and

[1:38] Energy Speaks. And he is an intuitive

[1:40] channeler. He leads a huge and vibrant

[1:43] online community that reaches a million

[1:45] people every month. His online events

[1:48] and community portal, sorry if you hear

[1:50] the noise, there's an airplane going

[1:51] over my head,

[1:53] and top 50 spiritual podcast impact the

[1:55] world, adventures into the deepest

[1:58] aspects of living and loving and

[2:00] awakening. And Lee is also an

[2:02] accomplished music producer and

[2:03] singer-songwriter whose acclaimed albums

[2:05] have charted as high as number one on

[2:08] the iTunes and Amazon New Age charts.

[2:10] And so, that's kind of the professional

[2:12] bio, okay? That's the professional bio.

[2:14] But what I want to give you all here is

[2:16] something a little bit more special to

[2:17] me. I remember when I got introduced to

[2:20] Lee's work. Um I was blown away by one

[2:24] particular thing that I want to be want

[2:25] to be super real with you all about. You

[2:27] know, I come across in my inbox

[2:31] I mean, I don't know. Kate can tell you

[2:32] like dozens upon dozens every week of

[2:36] the next coach, self-help guru person

[2:41] who is coming forward to proclaim to

[2:43] have something really special to share

[2:46] and something that is supposed to really

[2:47] change our lives, right? And and I'm

[2:49] always open. I'm an open mind. But the

[2:52] the kind of

[2:53] the meter, right? The bar that I'm

[2:55] always looking at is how deeply steeped

[2:59] does this work feel? Like it's coming

[3:02] truly from a place where the human that

[3:04] is speaking has taken the time and

[3:07] energy to steep themselves authentically

[3:10] in the practices, in the work such that

[3:13] it is coming through them in the purest

[3:16] form, right? Not just like rinsing and

[3:18] repeating some other version of what

[3:20] we're hearing on Instagram or what

[3:21] you're hearing somewhere. And as soon as

[3:23] I was tapped into Lee's work, I was

[3:27] blown away. I was honestly blown away.

[3:30] And so much so that this is the first

[3:32] webinar that we've done this year out

[3:35] with any guest. And so, I'm very honored

[3:37] and grateful to bring Lee here to talk

[3:39] about his book, to talk about his work,

[3:41] and most importantly, uh to help you all

[3:43] step into a greater, more transformed

[3:46] version of yourself. And so, as we go

[3:48] through this conversation today, I want

[3:50] to invite uh all of you to know how to

[3:52] use the chat box and the comments. And

[3:54] so in our community, you've already done

[3:56] it. If you hear me or Lee or anybody

[3:58] else say anything that makes you want to

[4:00] say like, "Yeah, or amen, or I'm with

[4:01] you, or I got you, or yes, yes, yes,

[4:03] yes, yes." Right? Then you just hit the

[4:05] number one a whole bunch of times like

[4:07] this. And this is kind of our like

[4:09] snapping, clapping corner, you know,

[4:11] because the truth is you're not watching

[4:13] a pre-recorded video of us. We're here

[4:15] live and this is how we will exchange

[4:17] energy. The other way that we'll use the

[4:19] chat box is of course to ask questions,

[4:22] but also if you hear any quotes or

[4:24] golden nuggets that you want to hold on

[4:26] to, just type those quotes in the chat

[4:28] box and we'll have a cascade of all the

[4:30] important topics that we learn in the

[4:32] session. And at the end a couple people

[4:34] will have a chance to come in and ask a

[4:36] question to Lee as well. I just have to

[4:37] give you a disclaimer that if you come

[4:39] on camera to to the stage to ask a

[4:43] question, this will be recorded. It will

[4:45] be going up on YouTube. So I want to

[4:46] make sure you know about your privacy

[4:47] before we do that. All right, so without

[4:50] further ado,

[4:52] I want to welcome a warm welcome. So I

[4:53] want to see your ones in the chat box.

[4:55] Lee Harris right here to our community

[4:58] for the very first time. Lee, welcome.

[5:00] Thank you. Thank you so much. Thank you

[5:02] for having me. And it's lovely to see

[5:04] everybody. I didn't know we were going

[5:05] to get to see everybody on screen, so

[5:07] that's great.

[5:08] Ah, yeah, we like to do it this way here

[5:09] so you can feel the energy of community.

[5:11] And for for those of you who are here,

[5:13] please turn your cameras on. We want to

[5:14] see your face. We don't care if you're

[5:15] in a in a hair bun or wherever you are.

[5:17] We want to see you. Thank you. There you

[5:19] are. Hi Wendy, Brandy, I like that.

[5:21] Okay, so um I'm going to jump right in

[5:23] here, Lee. Um you know, we'll be here

[5:25] together for about another 50 minutes,

[5:27] so we'll we'll end it right at the top

[5:28] of the hour.

[5:29] The title of this book,

[5:31] Mhm.

[5:31] Awaken your multi-dimensional

[5:34] soul.

[5:36] Why?

[5:37] Why this title? Cuz I know this isn't an

[5:39] accident.

[5:40] Yeah.

[5:41] Great question. So the book is is the

[5:45] second book in a series of conversations

[5:48] between psychotherapist Diana Edwards

[5:51] and my guides who I've been channeling

[5:54] since I was 23, so 24 years now.

[5:58] And your multi-dimensional awareness,

[6:01] your multi-dimensional soul, and the

[6:03] fact that we are living on a planet

[6:07] where

[6:08] for many

[6:09] there is a lot more going on than they

[6:11] are currently perceiving or seeing. In

[6:13] your community, you know, like I've been

[6:15] a spiritual seeker for 31 years now. I'm

[6:18] sure all of us here have always felt

[6:21] there's something more, but Awaken Your

[6:23] Multi-dimensional Soul was the title

[6:26] that popped out the most from this uh

[6:29] series of conversations where they're

[6:31] speaking about who we are, what's going

[6:35] on on the planet right now. So, this

[6:37] very specific

[6:38] difficult chapter that we're in, this

[6:40] transitionary time. So, they're speaking

[6:42] about this decade and everything from

[6:44] now to 2050,

[6:46] and why we're going through it, and how

[6:49] we're connected to not just everything

[6:51] here on Earth, but our place in the

[6:53] universe. So, they really, you know,

[6:55] it's quite broad. When I'm channeling,

[6:58] they'll talk a lot in broad terms, but

[7:00] they always bring it back to the human,

[7:01] and they're always saying you are far

[7:04] more than you realize or have been

[7:06] trained to allow yourselves to see

[7:08] yourselves as. You are multi-dimensional

[7:11] as a human and as a soul. And depending

[7:13] on where you're focusing on that day, uh

[7:16] you know, you might not perceive

[7:18] yourself that way. But the thing they

[7:19] have done for me all these years

[7:22] is whenever I get a little tight

[7:25] in my thoughts or my feelings or my

[7:26] ideas or my beliefs,

[7:28] I speak to them about what I'm tight

[7:31] about, and they just show me the the

[7:34] higher levels and the wider levels, and

[7:36] then my whole body relaxes, and I'm

[7:37] like, "Oh, yeah, of course. I hadn't,

[7:39] you know, I needed to relax."

[7:41] So, this is really important. And NZ,

[7:43] I'm going to say "NZ". I'll call you NZ.

[7:45] Lee,

[7:46] so I want to get into something because

[7:48] everyone here, you know, for people who

[7:51] are not clear, right? We're talking

[7:52] about they and we're talking about the

[7:55] Zs and we're talking about this and

[7:57] you're bringing in and you're hearing

[7:58] them and you're talking to them. So, can

[8:00] you get clear like for just on the most

[8:03] basic level, what are we talking about

[8:04] here? Who is this? Where is this message

[8:07] coming from?

[8:09] So, when I was 23 years old, I heard a

[8:12] voice in my head and it was explained to

[8:15] me that yes, we are your guides and

[8:17] we've been with you your whole life and

[8:19] all humans have a connection to guides

[8:21] whether we hear them

[8:22] guides or something like that, yeah?

[8:24] yes.

[8:24] Okay, yeah.

[8:25] And in my guide team, they've explained

[8:28] you have angelic beings who are here to

[8:31] help you with light and healing. You

[8:33] have beings who are helping you with the

[8:36] way that you're navigating things on the

[8:38] planet to do with your mind or your

[8:40] wisdom. They they they're a group. And

[8:43] they say that most of us are connected

[8:45] to groups in much the same way that

[8:48] we're connected to friends on the

[8:49] planet. So, I am highly influenced by my

[8:53] parents, my teachers, my friends,

[8:56] perhaps some of the most challenging

[8:57] people I've met on the planet where I've

[8:59] had like clashes.

[9:01] All of those things have made me who I

[9:03] am today. And so, it's no different when

[9:06] we have these connections to guides and

[9:08] other beings and some of them have been

[9:11] incarnate as human before and some of

[9:13] them haven't. And they said there are

[9:17] whole souls, beings, energies, groups

[9:20] who won't really choose to incarnate,

[9:22] but they will choose to be consciously

[9:25] close to Earth, part of Earth. So,

[9:28] I I I think what was interesting for me

[9:30] is I was a student of personal

[9:31] development. I was a student of

[9:34] intuition. I was into more of the

[9:35] grounded stuff.

[9:37] So, the channeling has been a very

[9:39] interesting

[9:41] perception shift for me because it has

[9:44] forced me to accept something that I was

[9:48] previously a little more skeptical of.

[9:51] So, it's good that you asked to qualify

[9:53] this because I should say for I mean

[9:55] anyone here who doesn't know what I do,

[9:57] I do a range of things. So, I work as an

[9:59] intuitive. I work as a more grounded

[10:02] personal development teacher, but I also

[10:04] do the channeling. And this book

[10:07] is is part of my channeled work.

[10:10] Yeah, and what's happening in this book

[10:11] is you're talking to Diana, who is a

[10:14] psychotherapist. And Diana's asking

[10:15] these questions and you're channeling

[10:17] the answers from these guides who are

[10:19] called disease, right? Who you call

[10:22] disease. Now, before we we continue on,

[10:24] I want to ask a question that I know I'm

[10:25] thinking and I'm sure many everybody

[10:27] else is thinking. Like, can we all

[10:31] channel? Can other people channel? Or is

[10:34] this just something that's special to

[10:35] specific people or to you, you know, on

[10:37] the planet?

[10:38] I believed it was special to specific

[10:41] people, especially those who maybe were

[10:43] vegan or had meditated for forever.

[10:47] Like, truly. And that's why I didn't

[10:49] believe it. Like, and also it happened

[10:51] So, this is the most important part of

[10:52] my story. This happened to me on the

[10:54] subway. This happened to me on the

[10:56] London Underground. Like, one of the

[10:58] least spiritually open connected places

[11:02] that it So, this was the other trip that

[11:04] it did on my mind. I was first of all

[11:07] thinking, "Well, I'm not healed enough.

[11:09] I'm not clear enough. I'm not pure

[11:10] enough."

[11:11] So, yes is my answer. I feel like my

[11:14] story illustrates yes, but I think

[11:17] what's tricky

[11:19] cuz I certainly had this belief. I'm

[11:20] like, "Well, I'm never going to be

[11:21] someone who speaks to my guides."

[11:24] I'm a huge believer in

[11:26] we can all speak to the voice of our

[11:28] soul and the voice of our higher self.

[11:31] Somebody type that in. We can all speak

[11:33] to the voice of our soul and the voice

[11:35] of our higher self. Type that into the

[11:36] chat. Go ahead, Lee.

[11:38] So, one of the exercises I have given to

[11:41] people for years in workshop rooms and

[11:43] now online,

[11:45] and we can even do it right now if you

[11:46] want, is I will say

[11:49] uh write a question at the top of a

[11:52] piece of paper.

[11:52] do it. Let's do it. Let's do it. Let's

[11:54] do it. Let's do it. Let's do it.

[11:56] Can they do it? Can we do it if we're

[11:57] humans who don't have paper around us

[11:59] often? Can I do this on my phone? Can I

[12:01] do

[12:01] I channel on my phone for myself all the

[12:04] time.

[12:04] Okay, great. I'm going to bring in the

[12:06] phone.

[12:06] of it and it's handy and I can find it.

[12:08] So, I use notes on iPhone for my own

[12:10] personal

[12:11] channeling. So,

[12:13] the question is

[12:16] what does my soul

[12:18] want to tell me today?

[12:20] What does my soul want to tell me today?

[12:27] And then you just answer it.

[12:28] You write that question and then when

[12:29] you've written that down, just clear

[12:31] your mind and that doesn't mean you have

[12:33] to be highly zen or have no thoughts and

[12:36] just focus on that question and then let

[12:39] yourself write what comes through and

[12:41] don't overthink it. Don't worry if you

[12:44] think you're making it up. Just write.

[12:47] What does my soul want to tell me today?

[12:50] And see what message comes for you.

[13:07] Anybody want to share something with us?

[13:09] Would anybody be willing to share what

[13:11] came to you? You can raise your Zoom

[13:13] hand if you'd like. Okay, Rosie. Hey,

[13:15] Rosie from Yellow Heart Memorial. Hey,

[13:17] Rosie. Okay, what came to you?

[13:19] Good to see you.

[13:21] Um so, what came to me

[13:24] um

[13:25] is um you have honored her.

[13:28] Um

[13:29] Today is 3 years exactly that I lost my

[13:33] mom to COVID.

[13:34] Oh, honey.

[13:35] I have fought for 2 years

[13:38] to honor my mom and all the lives that

[13:41] we've lost to COVID.

[13:43] And that's how I met Justin.

[13:46] Um so that's what came to me.

[13:48] Oh, Rosie, I'm so grateful we get to

[13:51] spend this day together.

[13:53] Thank you.

[13:53] What a gift and honoring your mama. You

[13:55] have honored her.

[13:56] And I lost my dad to COVID in April of

[13:59] 2020. So I I feel you, Rosie, and yeah,

[14:02] it's uh

[14:03] it's a thing, but I love that message.

[14:06] Mm. Anybody else want to share? I see

[14:07] Barbie's coming up here. Hi, Barbie.

[14:10] Where are you coming in from, Barbie?

[14:11] Hi, I'm in Western Massachusetts, the

[14:14] Berkshires of Massachusetts. Um

[14:16] Great.

[14:18] Uh

[14:18] So what is came to you, dear?

[14:20] My My soul told me

[14:22] um

[14:24] that I have just I've just been reborn.

[14:28] Mm.

[14:29] Which is makes complete sense. I

[14:33] I don't have time to tell you

[14:34] everything, but Lee, I just

[14:36] Lee, I just heard you with Colette

[14:37] Baron-Reid, too, and Colette and Justin

[14:39] are my two spiritual leaders. So amazing

[14:43] how worlds collide.

[14:45] Yeah. I love Colette.

[14:46] Thank you.

[14:47] Thank

[14:47] Thank you, Barbie. Everybody else can

[14:49] type it into the chat. So, Lee, is there

[14:51] anything you want to share about that?

[14:53] There is. So first of all, I love what

[14:54] we're hearing. And if you give like 3 to

[14:57] 5 minutes to do this, you'll be amazed

[15:00] what will fall onto the page.

[15:02] Um

[15:03] it's a great way to get started. What

[15:05] does my soul want to tell me today? But

[15:07] what I do now, um because I don't need

[15:10] that opening question, I write the date

[15:13] at the top of the paper or at the top of

[15:16] the notes in the iPhone because then I

[15:18] can go back and reread it a week or two

[15:20] later. And especially if you write a few

[15:22] sentences or a couple of paragraphs,

[15:25] it's interesting to see how those things

[15:26] start to make sense in your life. But,

[15:29] I'll write simple questions. So, for

[15:31] example,

[15:33] you know, let's say Justin and I were on

[15:34] the phone, and Justin was a little

[15:37] evasive with me, and I couldn't quite

[15:39] put my finger on why, and then he got

[15:40] off the phone, and I was a little

[15:42] worried about him.

[15:43] I would go,

[15:45] "What's going on with Justin?" And they

[15:46] might say, "He is dealing with grief,

[15:49] and he is not ready to talk about it. He

[15:51] appreciated the connection with you, but

[15:52] give him space and reach out in a few

[15:54] days." So, that level of question and

[15:57] answer is something that I do, and it's

[16:00] incredibly useful. One piece to tell you

[16:03] is that when you first start doing this

[16:06] or any kind of channeling, whether it's

[16:08] to your higher self, your soul, or

[16:10] guides,

[16:12] it's really important to

[16:14] A, I'm a big believer in if the

[16:17] information is supportive, kind,

[16:19] uplifting, great. If the information is

[16:22] judgy or telling you to do things you're

[16:25] not comfortable with, you haven't quite

[16:26] got to the source you want to go to.

[16:28] That just might be your own mind.

[16:30] And that's very, very rare.

[16:32] But, what is common

[16:34] is that when you first start doing it,

[16:37] you are getting calibrated to the

[16:40] frequency of love and openness that we

[16:43] are not used to living in full-time, and

[16:46] we're certainly not used to having it

[16:48] reflected to us in society most of the

[16:50] time. So, it can bring up a lot of

[16:52] emotion. And I once was working with a

[16:55] client uh back when I was still doing

[16:57] one-on-ones, and she uh she was this

[16:59] brilliant business woman, fantastic

[17:01] mind,

[17:02] powerful, and she told me that she

[17:05] thought the channeling wasn't working,

[17:07] cuz I'd been she'd wanted to channel,

[17:08] and she was reading me some of what

[17:10] she'd written. I said, "Well, read me

[17:11] some of it." And she was like,

[17:13] "Jill, you're lovely. Jill, you have a

[17:15] very good heart. Jill," she was like,

[17:17] "I'm not any of I'm tough da da da da

[17:19] da." I said, "Well, your channel begs to

[17:22] differ." And I said, "Do you ever speak

[17:24] to yourself that way?" And she paused.

[17:29] And she went, "No." And I said, "Well,

[17:31] there you go. You've access to another

[17:32] voice inside yourself. Stay with it."

[17:34] And she did. And she stayed with it for

[17:36] weeks, and she started to slowly let

[17:39] that love in. So, often people can get

[17:41] very emotional with the first messages,

[17:44] you know,

[17:45] when you see words that have come

[17:46] through you that tell you nice things or

[17:50] supportive things, it can it can start

[17:53] to drain away the emotion that wraps

[17:55] itself around our self-judgment, all of

[17:58] the things that we've inherited from our

[17:59] society that we've internalized. So,

[18:02] know that channeling

[18:04] is it can be very healing for you, and

[18:06] it can take a bit of time to calibrate

[18:08] to that. And some people, it can be a

[18:11] lot of loving messages for a period of

[18:14] time until you've calibrated, and then

[18:16] the information might get a little more

[18:18] insightful at that point.

[18:21] This is really importantly, and I I

[18:23] there's a part of your book actually,

[18:25] something that you say that ties so

[18:26] perfectly to this that I love in the

[18:27] introduction. I'm just going to read it

[18:29] here. Um it says, "Sometimes it is the

[18:32] very act of noticing ourselves that

[18:35] sparks the breakthrough moment we need."

[18:38] Can you tell me more about that

[18:40] particular quote?

[18:41] So, I think like many in this field of

[18:44] personal growth and spirituality, I was

[18:47] the textbook person in my 20s uh to

[18:52] notice a negative pattern in myself and

[18:55] then go, "Oh god, I can't believe I'm

[18:56] doing that again." And

[18:58] uh

[18:58] And and you know, my my guides were

[19:00] like, "Uh-uh." They were like, "That's a

[19:02] stop sign." They said, "The minute you

[19:04] start judging yourself for a pattern

[19:06] that you've noticed that you want to

[19:07] improve, imagine a big red stop sign

[19:10] because that's what you've just put in

[19:11] your way."

[19:12] What you should be doing is going, "Oh,

[19:14] great. I am noticing a pattern in me

[19:19] that I have developed enough awareness

[19:20] to notice. It used to be insidious and

[19:23] it used to just run the show and I had

[19:25] no awareness of it. I was just in the

[19:27] behavior, in the thought." But they say,

[19:29] "Look, you're developing space to

[19:31] distance yourself from believing that

[19:33] that behavior, that thought is all of

[19:36] you. You're now seeing it's part of you.

[19:39] And now you're seeing it's part of you,

[19:41] you can start to give it space, healing,

[19:43] awareness, and different behaviors to

[19:45] let it move out. So,

[19:47] they're a huge fan of reminding us that

[19:50] the minute you see yourself

[19:52] with your awareness doing something that

[19:55] you think you could do better, they say,

[19:57] "That's a day to celebrate, not

[19:59] commiserate."

[20:00] Yeah, you know, and I love this

[20:02] awareness piece of the puzzle because

[20:04] this is where, you know, all of our

[20:06] transformation begins. And there's, you

[20:08] know, another section in the book where

[20:10] you talk about disease discussing the

[20:12] importance, and I love this so much, of

[20:15] listening to our bodies.

[20:18] And the reason why this I'm tying this

[20:19] in right now as we just did our session

[20:21] this past Sunday of the kingdom, which

[20:23] is my Sunday session that I host um once

[20:26] a month. And we had Sonya Renee Taylor,

[20:28] whose, you know, book is The Body Is Not

[20:30] an Apology. And for those of you who

[20:31] I'll I'll put the link to that interview

[20:33] in the chat box for you. But she talked

[20:35] about how to love your body and

[20:37] understanding that loving your body not

[20:40] with like buying things or just taking

[20:41] baths or like trying to work out

[20:43] yourself in a certain way, but really

[20:45] being able to tap in like to the wisdom

[20:47] that is here inside of the body is so

[20:49] powerful. And so, I um the the piece

[20:53] that I wanted to pull out here, the

[20:54] quote, was around

[20:56] how disease discussed the importance of

[20:58] listening to our bodies and discerning

[20:59] whether or not something feels true to

[21:02] us.

[21:04] Something feels true in our bodies. How

[21:06] do we know that? How do we know the

[21:09] difference?

[21:10] Yeah. So, there's a little exercise I I

[21:13] use and I've shared over the years

[21:15] called the body test. So, Justin phones

[21:19] me up and says, "Lee,

[21:21] I really want you to come out to this

[21:22] party tonight."

[21:24] And my mind goes, "Uh I don't really

[21:26] like parties. I'm an introvert. I'm

[21:27] going through a lot. I don't think I

[21:29] want to do it. No, that's not my thing.

[21:32] I think I'm going to stay home." What I

[21:33] should do is the body test. And I should

[21:36] go, "Okay, body, imagine going to that

[21:38] party."

[21:40] And I just sit for 5 to 10 seconds and I

[21:42] let my body show me in feeling how I

[21:46] feel going to that party.

[21:48] And now I go, "Okay, I've I feel that.

[21:51] That actually felt weirdly open. I felt

[21:53] kind of Yeah, kind of open, a little bit

[21:56] alive, a little bit nervous, but

[21:57] actually a little bit open."

[21:59] Now I'm staying home by myself and I'm

[22:01] saying, "No, Justin, sorry. I'm an

[22:02] introvert." And

[22:05] that feels a bit uh actually comparing

[22:08] the two, that feels a bit more blah.

[22:11] So, the body test shows me, even though

[22:13] I'm a bit nervous and I don't know who

[22:15] this party is, I remind myself, "You can

[22:17] leave the party. Go to the party for 10

[22:19] minutes. You can go home. But don't do

[22:22] your usual pattern of denying yourself

[22:24] what you what used to be what you needed

[22:26] to do or the way you needed to behave."

[22:28] So, for me, there's a big difference

[22:30] between do I run something only through

[22:32] my mind, which has habits and patterns

[22:35] that's trying to keep me safe, or do I

[22:38] let myself let my mind be wrong and let

[22:40] my body feel into the energy of what I'm

[22:43] offered and show me which way to go. I

[22:45] do that all the time and I encourage

[22:48] people who

[22:50] use intuitions or visions to do the same

[22:53] thing because many I I did this a bit

[22:56] myself at the beginning, too, but I

[22:58] would meet people who would say,

[23:00] "Oh, I was told that I needed to take

[23:02] all my money out my bank account and go

[23:04] and open a healing center in Brazil by

[23:06] spirit and I went, "Okay." And and how's

[23:09] it going? Oh, it's awful. I'm bankrupt

[23:11] and oh, okay, but you felt good about

[23:13] going. Well, no, I felt really nervous

[23:15] actually and I wasn't sure. Okay, well,

[23:17] then you shouldn't have done it. Like

[23:19] spirit is not in charge. We spirit can

[23:22] give us lovely possibilities and

[23:23] timelines, but if we can't get our body

[23:25] behind it and so I learned very quickly

[23:29] visions, intuitions, ideas, can this

[23:32] body walk into them right now or does

[23:34] this body need a bit more time? Maybe

[23:37] it's for the future. Maybe a version of

[23:39] that in a year or two is going to be

[23:40] true for me, but right now I'm a little

[23:42] unsettled. I'm a little nervous. So,

[23:45] even though I'm an intuitive and I work

[23:47] as an intuitive, for me everything goes

[23:50] through my body and if my body won't

[23:52] allow it, I won't allow it. Like it has

[23:54] to come from here.

[23:56] And when you're saying go through your

[23:59] body and really feel it, I want to get

[24:00] it clear here what we're talking about.

[24:02] Like do you mean

[24:04] you think about whatever the thing is,

[24:06] going to the party or opening the

[24:08] retreat center,

[24:09] and if your body is

[24:11] shutting down, getting cramped, being

[24:13] tight, shaking, getting nervous,

[24:16] how do you know the difference between

[24:18] this is just you stretching beyond your

[24:20] comfort zone, which is not comfortable,

[24:22] versus uh this is a no.

[24:26] And you know, and this is a yes.

[24:27] Right qualifier because if you have

[24:30] full-on PTSD or a trauma that you're

[24:33] working through, you already know that

[24:36] some of that's in your body, so it's

[24:37] going to be hard for you to know the

[24:39] difference. My line is

[24:41] is it

[24:42] is it nervousness or is it terror?

[24:45] If I'm a little nervous about something,

[24:48] then

[24:50] I will go I will notice the nerves, but

[24:52] I'll go, "Aha, should I just" And then

[24:54] again, if I have my exit strategy, oh,

[24:56] okay, I can leave the party after 10

[24:57] minutes if I don't like it. Okay, me and

[25:00] my nervousness feel safe enough to go.

[25:02] If I'm in terror, it's a no for me. If

[25:05] I'm If the fear is so strong, because if

[25:07] my body can't walk me into the thing or

[25:10] if I'm

[25:11] in a way betraying my body by walking it

[25:13] into something it is trying to tell me

[25:15] no, no, no, which is why trauma and PTSD

[25:18] are tricky because for for a while there

[25:21] when you're working through PTSD or

[25:23] trauma and especially when it's fresh or

[25:27] if you haven't yet got someone working

[25:28] with you on it so that you can

[25:30] understand it better, that's like an

[25:32] alarm bell that just keeps going off.

[25:34] So, it's very hard to know the

[25:35] difference. So, I would say

[25:37] do the body test and play with it.

[25:40] You know, you're not looking for massive

[25:42] signals. You're not looking for massive

[25:45] joy about going to the party. You're

[25:46] just trying to see where does my body

[25:48] feel open and that's why I always do a a

[25:52] two test comparison. It wouldn't really

[25:55] work for me if I didn't give myself

[25:57] another option, but if my other option

[25:59] is, "Okay, how do you feel if you stay

[26:00] home?"

[26:02] It's all about how I compare the two

[26:03] states in my body for me.

[26:06] This is really good. I You know, one of

[26:07] the ways that I've used this, Leah, is I

[26:09] was learning to feel what a yes feels

[26:12] like in my body versus a no,

[26:14] is I've actually started again, the

[26:17] notes in my phone have been a really

[26:18] good tracker and a lot of people who

[26:19] have taken my my workshops and things

[26:21] have seen me show this. I have a I'm not

[26:24] going to show all of it cuz you'll see

[26:25] too much of my personal life on here.

[26:29] Uh but I have a little tracker called

[26:31] intuition tracking and I'm just going to

[26:32] show you guys that I have it here.

[26:35] Oh, it's Oh, I typed intuition wrong.

[26:36] Anyway, you get the point. Here it is.

[26:38] Intuition tracking. And I have it and I

[26:41] It's when I'm in these decision points

[26:43] where I'm deciding the first one I have

[26:45] on here was whether or not to go to

[26:47] Philly. This was like a few years ago.

[26:49] And I got this intuitive hit that I

[26:50] needed to go to Philadelphia. And I was

[26:52] like, "Why am I going to go to

[26:53] Philadelphia? Like

[26:55] I don't have any reason to go to Philly.

[26:56] Like it was in the middle of a pandemic

[26:57] and I tapped in and I did this. Here's

[26:59] what going to Philly feels like, here's

[27:01] what not going to Philly feels like.

[27:02] Okay, now make a choice. And I actually

[27:04] wrote down here's what the here's what

[27:07] it felt like if I said yes. And I wrote

[27:09] down I felt this thing in my stomach, I

[27:11] felt a little tight in my chest. And

[27:12] then I went. And then I actually get to

[27:15] refer back and go, was that the right

[27:17] choice? Like was that choice a yes?

[27:20] Because we can't remember, right? Like

[27:22] in the moment it's so hard to remember.

[27:24] And so I have this whole list of

[27:27] experiences that have actually helped me

[27:29] refine what a yes feels like in my body

[27:33] as I've made choices. And sometimes went

[27:36] the wrong the quote-unquote wrong way,

[27:38] but it wasn't the wrong way because I

[27:40] now I learned, oh, okay, next time that

[27:42] happens,

[27:44] it's a no. So I just, you know, I wanted

[27:46] to share that as a really practical way

[27:47] that people can use that, you know, in

[27:49] their journey to because you have

[27:51] opportunities to train

[27:55] um and and harness your intuitions in so

[27:59] many moments throughout the day and

[28:00] throughout your life. And if you can

[28:02] just keep track of it a little bit, I

[28:04] find that it will help, you know, teach

[28:06] you and make it a lot stronger.

[28:09] I love all of that and and it

[28:10] illustrates a really important point

[28:12] which is certainly when I was coming up,

[28:15] I think those of us who were

[28:16] spirituality or intuition students, we

[28:19] believed there was a right way.

[28:21] And that someone was going to tell us we

[28:23] were getting it right. And what I have

[28:26] learned is it doesn't exist because

[28:27] we're all different. We all sense

[28:29] slightly differently. We all use

[28:31] intuition slightly differently. And

[28:33] also, I love what you're saying about

[28:35] what does a full body yes feel like?

[28:38] And also remembering that a full body

[28:40] yes is going to feel very different at

[28:41] different times in our life. I remember

[28:44] when

[28:45] I was really one of my

[28:47] the worst year of my life really in 2009

[28:51] and I was really on the floor and I knew

[28:53] that for me joy was probably quite a way

[28:56] away and I I got to a place where I

[28:58] thought I actually just need to get

[29:01] peace. Joy will come maybe in 6 months

[29:04] or 9 months, but what I need to sustain

[29:07] is moments of peace. So for some people

[29:09] a full body yes MIGHT FEEL LIKE

[29:12] AND FOR OTHER PEOPLE a full body yes

[29:14] might just feel like

[29:17] yes, that feels less troubling than the

[29:18] other thing. You know what I mean? We're

[29:20] all we're all composed differently and

[29:22] sometimes depending on what we're going

[29:23] through. So that's why I love that your

[29:26] point illustrates we have to study

[29:28] ourselves and you have to get a bit

[29:30] messy sometimes to figure it out. No

[29:32] one's going to give you the manual. You

[29:34] sometimes have to you know do your own

[29:37] driving of your car to go oh, that's how

[29:40] you reverse without smashing into

[29:41] things. Okay, I've got it now. I'll do

[29:43] it next time.

[29:45] Yeah, absolutely. And you know, one of

[29:47] the things that you talk about I'm just

[29:49] switching just a little bit here um

[29:51] is talking about boundaries and what the

[29:54] Z's have to say about boundaries for our

[29:55] own energetic field. Can you talk a

[29:58] little bit about how

[30:01] our boundaries and our own energetic

[30:03] fields and how we're setting that sets

[30:05] us up for our power here on Earth. I

[30:09] think there's a there's so much to say

[30:10] about this in the book and so I think a

[30:13] lot of people want to know about

[30:14] boundaries.

[30:15] They have been talking about boundaries

[30:17] for 19 years since I started this work

[30:20] and back then it was a little

[30:22] controversial to talk about boundaries

[30:24] cuz there were a lot of people going

[30:25] well, we shouldn't have boundaries. We

[30:26] should be open and and and yeah, that's

[30:29] true if you've learned your boundaries.

[30:31] Like if you are not leaking energy or

[30:34] being invaded by other people's energy

[30:36] or

[30:37] have learned how to own your energy you

[30:40] can be super open. But if you're super

[30:42] open without having those things in

[30:44] place, it can be chaotic.

[30:47] And so, you know, boundaries for me,

[30:49] they they basically said

[30:52] the more

[30:53] Can I remember the quote?

[30:56] The more you learn your boundaries, the

[30:59] more open your heart can become.

[31:01] Which seems like a paradox, but I can

[31:03] say from my own experience, I was

[31:05] someone who it was very easy for me to

[31:08] live outside myself in the desires of

[31:11] other people. And for a while, I played

[31:14] that game until I learned the hard way,

[31:17] "Ooh, that that's not good for me or for

[31:20] them really, but for me, there are costs

[31:22] to that."

[31:24] So then I had to learn, "What do I want

[31:26] and who am I?" And that was never as

[31:28] interesting to me as the outside world

[31:30] and other people.

[31:31] So a boundary is twofold. It's not

[31:34] necessarily

[31:35] just going, "No, mother, you can't call

[31:38] me anymore." It's not just that, which I

[31:40] think is the kind of raw you know, the

[31:43] blunt boundary we think about. It's

[31:45] literally

[31:46] walking into a shopping mall or a

[31:49] shopping center and going,

[31:52] "Hmm, this doesn't feel so good. My

[31:54] boundary is I'm going home. I'm going to

[31:56] take my energy home because this is

[31:59] permeating me and affecting me, and I'm

[32:01] just noticing it. No, this this doesn't

[32:03] feel good." So boundaries are really

[32:06] just about owning and containing your

[32:09] energy, so that when it's time to open,

[32:12] you can. And also that when someone or

[32:16] an an experience or a place comes along

[32:18] that you can open into that's going to

[32:19] be good for you,

[32:21] you can do it. But a lot of the time,

[32:23] we're either losing energy in tricky

[32:26] relationships or leaking energy or

[32:29] sometimes, and I know this is an issue

[32:31] for some people, um

[32:33] they feel too boundary. They're like,

[32:35] "Yeah, I just I can't connect with

[32:36] people, and I feel like I can't reach

[32:38] across and I can't open my heart and all

[32:40] of us have our areas like that where

[32:42] either we're wounded or we were never

[32:44] shown how to love in a certain way so we

[32:46] get a little defensive around certain

[32:48] types of people. So I I think boundaries

[32:51] to me what they're really talking about

[32:54] is how to be open, not how to be closed.

[32:57] Yeah, I see I love this cuz boundaries

[32:58] really are deeply about how to be open.

[33:02] And one of my favorite quotes, oh if I'm

[33:04] going to remember it now.

[33:07] I don't remember the quote, but what I

[33:09] remember about the quote is this, is

[33:10] that when you have clarity about your

[33:13] boundaries, you actually can open wide

[33:16] and relax because you know that you can

[33:18] expand fully inside of those boundaries.

[33:22] But when your boundaries are not clear,

[33:23] when you're not clear about your

[33:24] boundaries, you actually don't live

[33:27] fully because you're so busy tiptoeing

[33:30] and deciding is am I too far in or am I

[33:32] too far out or I don't know if I should

[33:33] do this or I don't know if I should not

[33:34] I don't know if I like this I don't and

[33:35] so you spend so much time being

[33:37] hyper-vigilant and staying small in but

[33:40] if you know this is my boundary, then

[33:43] you can actually play all the way to the

[33:45] edge of that boundary. You can go all

[33:47] the way to the edge and that actually

[33:49] allows you to live more fully because

[33:52] you know your boundaries are strong

[33:53] enough that you're not going to cross

[33:55] over into a place that causes you harm.

[33:57] So true.

[33:58] And so I've I've found this to be really

[34:00] helpful for my own life. Um oh the quote

[34:02] is clear boundaries, no limits.

[34:05] Mhm.

[34:06] Clear boundaries, no limits. That's what

[34:07] it was. I knew I knew it would come.

[34:09] Mhm.

[34:10] I love that.

[34:10] You know, Lee, what is what would you

[34:13] say is the number one

[34:15] uh message that you have for us through

[34:18] disease? What is what is the main

[34:21] message that is coming through

[34:23] for us?

[34:26] Well, nothing comes to my historical

[34:28] mind but when I open my mind to

[34:32] uh when I open my mind to that question

[34:34] in the moment, what I hear for this

[34:36] group in this moment is um

[34:40] everything is far bigger than you think.

[34:44] And when you remember the size of

[34:45] everything, you no longer feel so tight

[34:49] about your circumstances or experiences.

[34:54] And how I translate that is

[34:58] I look at our world at the moment and I

[35:00] think a lot of us are having, you know,

[35:02] shock experiences around what's going on

[35:04] here on the planet in various areas that

[35:07] perhaps previously we felt more relaxed

[35:09] around or we could be open to.

[35:12] And what they're always explaining to me

[35:14] as we go through these times and they

[35:16] they said 2017 to 2024 were going to be

[35:19] tough years on the planet and I in 2016

[35:22] that just seemed abstract to me.

[35:24] Now I'm like, oh yeah, okay.

[35:26] Oh yeah, okay. Yeah.

[35:27] They said they're necessary. They said

[35:30] you will see what they said you you

[35:33] might call it the dark energy, you might

[35:35] call it old energy. We would call it

[35:38] control energy. They said you will see

[35:40] it rising but it won't be able to last

[35:45] and the reason it's rising is because

[35:48] it's it's in its dying throes on the

[35:51] planet and we can't go forward under

[35:55] that system.

[35:57] So I think

[35:59] where I just have paid attention

[36:03] to what they say and tried to map it

[36:05] onto what I'm seeing

[36:07] when I'm not in moments of reaction to

[36:10] it as a human being,

[36:12] I start to see the point of of what this

[36:15] time is in a different way and I feel

[36:19] that there is something much better for

[36:22] all on the other side.

[36:24] Um but the other side to me is, you

[36:26] know, this next two, three years are

[36:27] really crucial around what will happen

[36:30] on the planet and also what will get

[36:32] dismantled on the planet. And it's very

[36:35] easy for us to go, "Oh, I can't wait

[36:37] till the old gets dismantled."

[36:38] Personally, I don't think it's fun to go

[36:40] through that, and I I you know, it it's

[36:42] actually quite intense. So, I think for

[36:45] me, I I try and stay in my body as much

[36:48] as I can, but the thing they're always

[36:50] reminding me of,

[36:52] they say light is everywhere.

[36:54] And you just have to know where to find

[36:57] it and when to find it. And that is not

[36:59] escaping. That is actually creating

[37:02] light on the planet. Because if you can

[37:04] keep connecting yourself to light, you

[37:07] become an energy field that's doing that

[37:09] regularly. And then it gets shared and

[37:11] dispersed. And I think of, you know,

[37:13] those days where we're not having a good

[37:15] day, and it's

[37:16] for me, it's the person at the checkout

[37:18] that I meet who's just an angel or a

[37:21] love, or they smile at you in a really

[37:23] big way, or the person maybe in an Uber,

[37:26] or whatever it is, someone that I don't

[37:28] necessarily know,

[37:30] but their energy transmits in a way that

[37:34] I get reconnected in some way. So, you

[37:37] know, to me, that's the point of this

[37:39] time. Not so much

[37:41] only getting bogged down in the details

[37:43] of what's going on as we go through

[37:45] this, but instead remembering this is a

[37:47] transition on Earth. It's been

[37:49] prophesied for a very, very long time

[37:52] that this is what we would be going

[37:53] through. In different

[37:55] prophecies, it it's spoken about in

[37:57] different ways, but we always knew this

[37:59] was that moment that we were coming to.

[38:01] So,

[38:02] I think their perspective that

[38:04] everything is far bigger than it might

[38:06] look on the surface has helped me a lot

[38:09] to create space

[38:11] and a broader perspective as well as the

[38:14] small and narrow perspective that I

[38:15] might just have as a human being

[38:18] in the way that an article tells me to

[38:20] think about something.

[38:22] What do the Z's have to say about social

[38:25] media?

[38:27] They've said it's dual.

[38:29] In fact, no, not even social media.

[38:32] What they have said about technology and

[38:34] the internet is it's it's dualistic. So,

[38:38] they have said that we would not

[38:42] have the level of consciousness that we

[38:45] have right now without the internet.

[38:48] And like everything uh there are areas

[38:53] of the internet that are not so good for

[38:55] us, or there are areas of the internet

[38:58] that are

[39:00] just a not healthy for us, or are used

[39:03] in ways that are not healthy for us. So,

[39:05] they're not black and white about it,

[39:06] but the one thing they say is that we

[39:08] wouldn't be as

[39:10] aware of certain things, as connected to

[39:13] each other. They say that it has

[39:14] developed more of a hive mind, more of a

[39:17] collective psychic mind.

[39:20] And the biggest thing they say is,

[39:22] "Monitor your use of it." They say, you

[39:24] know, you don't want to be on a computer

[39:26] all day long.

[39:27] They say you need to be in nature. You

[39:29] need to reset your body. You need to be

[39:31] able to come back to your own sensory

[39:33] biological rhythms.

[39:35] And so, if you can use computers and the

[39:38] internet in mindful ways, they're really

[39:41] important tools for the future.

[39:43] Social media, I can't remember what they

[39:45] said, but I know they said something in

[39:46] one of the books about it. And I think

[39:48] they were basically Yeah, they were

[39:50] basically talking about all of the

[39:51] shadow aspects of it that we see, but

[39:53] they were also saying it has connect it

[39:56] has developed something among you as

[39:58] well that must be acknowledged that is

[40:00] positive as well as the negative.

[40:03] Yeah, this is super important. There is

[40:05] a lot that I mean, I'm just pulling out

[40:07] some of the big threads, you know, that

[40:08] I loved from the book, but there is so

[40:11] much There is

[40:12] so much magic in this conversation

[40:14] inside of the book. And before we go

[40:16] into a moment to open up for some

[40:18] questions, I actually want to make sure

[40:19] that I put the link to Lee's book here

[40:22] in the chat box. We're also going to

[40:23] have it in the description of wherever

[40:25] you're watching this.

[40:26] This is it. I'm holding one right here.

[40:27] Yes, and he's holding it up.

[40:29] Conversations with Disease and

[40:32] the link here is directly in the chat

[40:34] for all of you, so you might want to

[40:35] copy and paste it and grab it or open it

[40:38] up for yourselves because it's it's

[40:39] really just a treat and you can feel the

[40:42] truths that are being spoken through

[40:44] this

[40:45] in a and opened up in the space of love

[40:48] is very powerful. Lee, before I let

[40:52] the audible Yeah, the audible version is

[40:54] the actual conversations that took

[40:56] place. So, it's not re-narrated. It's

[40:59] the conversations as Diana was asking

[41:01] the questions while I was channeling.

[41:04] I made sure we captured those

[41:05] conversations professionally so that

[41:07] they could be the audio version.

[41:10] And then the book is a very slightly

[41:12] edited version for the people who want

[41:14] the words in print because it's

[41:15] different, you know.

[41:16] Yeah, and you can you can access all of

[41:18] that at the link here. And I promised

[41:21] also we'll make sure we put this in the

[41:22] description cuz I remember I said it a

[41:23] minute ago and then had to pull it up

[41:25] that we had the interview from the

[41:27] kingdom on how to love your body with

[41:29] Sonia Renee Taylor and that link the

[41:32] YouTube link to that is also in the chat

[41:34] and will be in the description as well.

[41:36] So, Lee, before I actually let's just

[41:38] jump into some questions. Is that okay?

[41:39] We have the last few minutes. So, I'm

[41:42] not I don't This is the way I roll in

[41:44] this community. You raise your Zoom

[41:45] hand. I don't pick in order and we're

[41:48] not going to get through everybody,

[41:49] right? So,

[41:51] we'll get through what we can get

[41:52] through and what feels like it's coming

[41:54] through. So, if you have a question,

[41:56] please feel free to raise your Zoom

[41:58] hand. You can have a conversation here.

[42:01] And if you have something else that you

[42:02] want to type into the chat and you don't

[42:03] want to come up on screen, I might be

[42:05] able to pull a couple things off of the

[42:06] chat. So, we'll start here with Paula.

[42:09] Hi, Paula. Welcome. Where are you coming

[42:11] in from, dear?

[42:12] Hi there. I'm coming in from Nova

[42:14] Scotia, Canada.

[42:16] Wow. Hello. Hello. Hello.

[42:18] Hi. Just so thrilled to be to be able to

[42:21] ask my question cuz I do have a

[42:22] question. And one of my favorite quotes

[42:26] from Lee recently was the sound from the

[42:30] ground is running life through me.

[42:33] Ooh, say it again.

[42:35] It's he's he said, "The sound from the

[42:38] ground is running life through me."

[42:42] I love that.

[42:44] Can you tell me about sound? How can I

[42:47] hear more? How can I open to that sound

[42:50] from the ground that is changing the

[42:53] consciousness on this planet?

[42:56] Thank you. Wow, that's beautiful. So,

[42:57] that's I I wrote a song called boldly,

[43:01] um, which is on an album that we

[43:03] released in December. And my music is

[43:04] very channeled. It always has been. They

[43:06] said that they got me through music

[43:08] first cuz I started hearing, uh,

[43:11] melodies and lyrics at the age of 21 and

[43:14] then I heard them at the age of 23.

[43:16] Sound from the ground is running life

[43:18] through me.

[43:20] It's actually from something that they

[43:22] have been talking about for years. They

[43:24] say that the vibration in the earth is

[43:26] what is waking us up. We often think of

[43:29] out there and above and the heavens and

[43:31] and they said, "No, no, no, it's the

[43:33] vibrations from inside the earth." So,

[43:36] one of the things they've always said

[43:37] and I mean, I've seen this as well from

[43:39] other people in different ways. They

[43:41] say, "Get down on the ground. Sit down

[43:43] on the ground. Put your bum on the

[43:44] ground

[43:46] and let yourself just let the vibrations

[43:48] of the earth move through you." And if

[43:49] you're really sensitive, you will hear

[43:52] them as well as feel them. And it will

[43:54] start a whole other rhythm in your body.

[43:57] So, that's where that line in that song

[43:59] came from.

[44:01] And, you know, the funny thing about you

[44:02] is you're very angelic and very

[44:04] elemental. I can see that just And it's

[44:06] hilarious cuz you've got like these

[44:07] rings of light going on in your

[44:09] background. So, to me your

[44:12] elemental energy is people who are very

[44:15] in tune with nature, with sentient life,

[44:18] and can feel, perceive, and sense

[44:21] elementals. I mean, if you want to go

[44:23] further into it, it's people who can

[44:25] perceive fairy energy, which I know to

[44:28] some people they go, "I don't think

[44:29] fairies exist." I know many people who

[44:32] have connections with the fairy realms

[44:34] and the elementals and they can see

[44:35] them, they can feel those deva spirits.

[44:38] So, you have that and you have the

[44:40] angelic. So, the more time you spend in

[44:42] nature just actually consciously

[44:45] you're the kind of person that could sit

[44:47] on the ground and go, "Let me feel the

[44:50] sound of the earth."

[44:51] And you you commanding that is going to

[44:54] invoke and invite something. So, I would

[44:57] say I would say give permission with

[45:00] your words and and it will be really

[45:02] interesting to see how that develops for

[45:03] you.

[45:04] Thank you.

[45:05] I will.

[45:06] Thank you.

[45:07] Command it to be so, Paula. Thank you so

[45:09] much, Paula. So grateful to have you

[45:11] here. Before we move on,

[45:14] Lee, I wanted to ask you

[45:16] if somebody has a question

[45:19] and the answer to this could be no. If

[45:20] somebody here had a question for the

[45:22] Z's, are you open to channeling

[45:24] something through the Z's right now? If

[45:26] somebody just has a question about their

[45:27] life or something like this. Okay, so

[45:29] that opens up a door. Y'all have an

[45:30] opportunity here. We have a few minutes.

[45:33] If you have a question for the Z's about

[45:36] your own life or your own experience

[45:38] that you want to ask Lee,

[45:40] please feel free or rather ask the Z's,

[45:42] feel free to raise your Zoom hand or

[45:44] just, you know, wave a hand in the chat

[45:46] and we will bring you up. Elka,

[45:49] hello, Elka. Where are you coming in

[45:51] from, dear?

[45:51] Hi.

[45:53] I am in Pennsylvania.

[45:55] And I'm so so honored and happy to be

[45:58] here with you all and Justin and Lee.

[46:01] And you know, yesterday recently I had a

[46:04] major break breakthrough in my life.

[46:07] And following that, I was with friends

[46:10] outside in nature, and the next time I

[46:14] went into a department store, all of the

[46:17] sudden people came to me and they

[46:19] greeted me and smiled at me and were

[46:21] ever so kind and friendly, and I felt

[46:25] overwhelmed by that energy. So, um

[46:28] I think is that possible that I conveyed

[46:31] that energy that I absorbed uh in that

[46:34] nature space with my friends into the

[46:37] world and into that store, and people

[46:40] felt attracted?

[46:41] Uh welcome. A few different elements

[46:44] were playing out at once. So, firstly,

[46:47] you have gone through a form of rebirth

[46:50] in the last two to three weeks. It has

[46:52] been very internal and very deep for

[46:54] you. And the way we could illustrate it

[46:56] to you in energetic terms is it is much

[47:00] like uh an inner cavern inside your

[47:03] torso has opened. You have been allowing

[47:06] more heart energy to fill your inner

[47:09] body.

[47:10] So, when you amplified this in nature

[47:13] and then walked into what you call the

[47:16] department store, yes, you were emitting

[47:19] an attractive energy to others, but you

[47:21] were not yet in a space where you were

[47:23] ready to interact that energy with

[47:26] strangers or with those whose mm

[47:29] intentions were not bad necessarily, but

[47:32] they were hungry for the light, and you

[47:34] did not know how to draw your light back

[47:37] in at that point because you were simply

[47:38] open.

[47:40] So, we would say to you for the next

[47:43] at least two weeks, be gentle with your

[47:46] energy and be careful with your energy,

[47:49] not from a place of fear,

[47:51] but to recognize that you have just gone

[47:53] through this heart rebirth inside

[47:56] yourself where a new level of feeling

[47:59] and appreciating has entered your body.

[48:02] And that will take time to settle in and

[48:05] permeate into your life. But what you

[48:08] actually need in the next 2 weeks is

[48:10] environments and people where your

[48:13] sensitivity does not need to be

[48:15] protected. Where your sensitivity is

[48:18] allowed to be vulnerable. So, the people

[48:20] you feel safe being vulnerable and open

[48:22] with are good. So are the places.

[48:25] Places or people where that is not so

[48:27] easy, you should avoid as much as

[48:30] possible. But in a couple of weeks

[48:33] this will settle in. This is true for

[48:35] all of you when you go through these

[48:36] growth periods energetically,

[48:39] you forget. It's a little like going

[48:41] through psychic surgery. If you were in

[48:43] the hospital trying to recover from

[48:45] something that had gone wrong with your

[48:47] body, everyone would understand and give

[48:49] you space and know that you are what you

[48:51] would call recovering. The same is true

[48:54] when you go through big energetic

[48:55] shifts. And some of you get overwhelmed

[48:58] because you don't always know that that

[49:01] is what is taking place

[49:03] and that you need to be in a quiet,

[49:06] safe, and still place so that your body

[49:09] can calibrate to this new level of heart

[49:13] and appreciation that you are letting

[49:16] into your body at a new level. But

[49:18] remember, people are hungry for the

[49:20] light and there's nothing wrong with

[49:22] that. It's not their fault. People are

[49:24] hungry for the light and for positive

[49:26] energy and that's okay provided you

[49:30] recognize you don't have to be the

[49:32] feeding tube on the day that you do not

[49:34] feel you can be the feeding tube. And

[49:36] then on other days where you feel very

[49:37] robust and generous with that energy,

[49:40] you will enjoy flowing it through you.

[49:41] But yes, don't be too shocked when

[49:44] people flock to the light they see,

[49:46] feel, and need. Good. Hmm.

[49:51] Thank you.

[49:52] Hmm.

[49:53] Take that in, Alka,

[49:56] Thank you.

[49:57] Thank you.

[49:59] Can we do a couple more?

[50:01] Of course.

[50:01] Yeah.

[50:02] Okay. I'm going to bring up Lechelle and

[50:05] M.

[50:06] Uh,

[50:07] let's see.

[50:09] Oops. Lechelle, I just lost you. Can you

[50:11] raise your Zoom hand one more time,

[50:13] darling? Oh, there you are. There you

[50:14] are. Okay, here you I see you.

[50:16] Hi Lechelle. Hello.

[50:18] Good morning. I'm wonderful.

[50:20] Where are you coming in from?

[50:22] I'm in Vegas. I'm in Vegas.

[50:23] Okay, cool. Cool.

[50:24] So, trying to move around. I'm sorry. I

[50:26] was cooking dinner. Um,

[50:28] so I I want I want to share really

[50:30] quickly my what I heard. I was um, I've

[50:34] been in the process of trying to figure

[50:35] out a move and I've been really stressed

[50:38] out trying to figure the move out and I

[50:40] heard one, you can be anywhere and then

[50:43] I heard you can be everywhere. So, I

[50:46] love the question. I really appreciate

[50:49] it. It makes all the sense in the world

[50:50] to me. But, um, I'm I'm a healer. I'm

[50:53] intuitive. I do all the things and my

[50:55] son has his gifting and he's coming into

[50:59] his gifting and then I know that there

[51:02] are some challenges that come along with

[51:03] the process.

[51:05] Well, he has edema and so I have the

[51:07] medical question. He's athletic. He's

[51:10] He's doing all these things. The doctors

[51:12] are completely confused. He has a leg

[51:14] that just swelled up on him and it's

[51:18] growing and it's The doctors have no

[51:20] answers. We've all the specialists.

[51:23] We're looking to travel out of state to

[51:25] try to find someone that can make some

[51:27] sense of it. He has pitting edema in his

[51:29] leg as though he was 60 years old and

[51:31] he's 13. So, I don't know if you have

[51:34] any

[51:35] any answers. I can't get clarity on

[51:37] that.

[51:38] We will address it from a few angles,

[51:40] but first a message for you that is

[51:43] separate from your son, although not

[51:45] disconnected of course, because wherever

[51:47] you go, he goes. Mhm, a year to two from

[51:50] now, uh so you are looking at the second

[51:53] half of 2024 and the first half of 2025,

[51:59] you are going to go through a great leap

[52:01] in your life, a very positive leap, a

[52:04] mhm what we would call expansion. So, a

[52:06] lot of what is going on in your life

[52:08] right now is putting you in preparation

[52:10] from for that, and you feel a little

[52:12] anxiety. Uh so, some of the anxiety

[52:14] about the move is not just about the

[52:16] move, uh which is its own practical uh

[52:19] event, it is actually that you can feel

[52:21] that your life, your work, your reach,

[52:25] and your connection to others is going

[52:27] to get bigger in about a year's time,

[52:30] and it is perfect. And by the time you

[52:31] get there, you will feel ready for that

[52:34] uh extra mhm jump that you are about to

[52:37] make.

[52:38] But, regarding your son, uh he is a we

[52:41] would say wise healer, even though his

[52:45] age physically is young, his soul

[52:48] leaning is deep ancient wisdom.

[52:51] Uh this will take time to show up in

[52:53] him, and his

[52:55] leg is a symptom, not a mhm end result

[52:59] or a mhm final place for him to rest.

[53:03] You will be able to rebalance what is

[53:06] going on in his leg, but it may affect

[53:08] him for the next year or two. It may

[53:11] take that long for it to be resolved,

[53:15] and the journey that you will go on to

[53:16] resolve it will become a part of his

[53:19] future work. It will become a part of

[53:21] his future story. It will become a part

[53:23] of his future teaching. The energetic

[53:26] aspect for him in this is, and you

[53:28] already correctly diagnosed this,

[53:31] that a part of him is suddenly becoming

[53:33] an old man, which is not correct for his

[53:37] age, uh but there is an energetic part

[53:40] of him that is letting in the old

[53:42] ancient wisdom and he is very deep in

[53:46] his heart but quick to have a temper or

[53:50] anger which is just his defense

[53:52] mechanism and it is perfectly fine for

[53:54] him to do that. He is coping with a lot

[53:57] as are many in his age group trying to

[53:59] navigate who they are in a rapidly

[54:02] changing world that is losing the floor

[54:05] that many of you grew up knowing

[54:08] what it was and where it was. So, we do

[54:11] not see this condition being permanent

[54:13] for him. We do see this being a

[54:15] condition that it will take a year or up

[54:18] to 2 years to fully resolve and the path

[54:22] of healing that you will go on to

[54:24] resolve this will in fact be part of his

[54:27] future in an important way

[54:30] but we will say that and you will not be

[54:33] too surprised by this. It will take a

[54:35] great deal of Chinese medicine and

[54:37] alternative medicine to help him with

[54:39] this. So, of course, we never say rule

[54:41] out the traditional medicine route

[54:43] because you have so many different

[54:45] choices to choose from but because this

[54:48] is an ancient imprint for him, this is

[54:50] not a reaction to a modern issue which

[54:54] is where we would steer you more to

[54:56] modern medicine as the only solution

[54:58] because vibrationally this has an

[55:00] ancient path in him. It will be more the

[55:03] route of healing that you will go on

[55:06] that will help yield the results that

[55:08] will bring his

[55:11] leg back to its what you might call

[55:14] normal state but it will in fact be a

[55:16] renewed state. It will involve medical

[55:19] as well. So, again, do not rule that out

[55:23] but the more you can lean into the

[55:25] ancient and the alternative, the more

[55:27] you will be matching the symptom with

[55:30] the vibration from which it was born

[55:32] which is is ancient self is past lives.

[55:38] We hope this can bring some help. The

[55:41] two of you have a very bright future.

[55:43] You should not be afraid of your

[55:45] brightness and your brilliance.

[55:47] We are aware that sometimes that has got

[55:49] you in trouble in the past and lost you

[55:52] a few friends and loved ones, but that

[55:54] period is over.

[55:56] You are celebrated as bright and strong

[56:00] and powerful,

[56:02] very electrical in your energy and what

[56:05] you can create as an alchemist. And

[56:07] partly because of what your son is going

[56:10] through, but other forces in your life

[56:13] and in what you see in the world are

[56:15] going to allow you to step forward in a

[56:18] very bold way that you will be feeling

[56:20] as soon as January of 2024, but you will

[56:23] be ready to act upon and activate in the

[56:26] outer world by June of 2023.

[56:30] Uh 2024. That is when you will start to

[56:33] see the impact of the new you that you

[56:37] have allowed yourself to become. And it

[56:39] will simply be time. You will shed the

[56:41] skin of the old very easily. Good.

[56:46] This is awesome. Thank you so much. This

[56:48] is so accurate. So many confirmations. I

[56:50] appreciate it. Thank you.

[56:51] In peace and in love to you.

[56:54] Thank you. Same to you.

[56:55] Thank Thank you, Lichelle, for being

[56:57] vulnerable and sharing. And big

[56:58] blessings to you and your son.

[57:00] Uh I'm going to go for one more and then

[57:02] we're going to end. And I know

[57:03] everybody's so excited. M, I'm bringing

[57:05] you up. Uh you were one of the first

[57:07] three to to raise your hand. And so I'm

[57:09] going to go over to you. And everybody

[57:10] else, I'm so sorry, but I'll I'll share

[57:11] more ways that you can work with Lee and

[57:13] Ezzie soon. So M, hello. Where are you

[57:15] coming in from, dear?

[57:17] Hey, I'm coming in from upstate New

[57:19] York.

[57:20] All right. What do you got?

[57:22] Okay, so

[57:25] there's been I've been going through a

[57:26] pretty

[57:28] significant shift.

[57:30] And um a lot of it is like, surrounding

[57:34] my son si- in some struggles, but

[57:37] sometimes I have a hard time seeing

[57:38] myself.

[57:40] And I don't know always like how to

[57:43] focus more on

[57:45] the right versus the

[57:48] the expected.

[57:50] Like, what I should

[57:52] be focusing in on

[57:54] because it feels like that there's so

[57:56] much.

[57:59] So much all the time.

[58:02] To do well.

[58:06] So, is this the question?

[58:09] Yeah, just how do I how do I kind of

[58:12] sift through

[58:13] first, you don't do anything well and

[58:15] nor should you try to. Ha. There is no

[58:18] well. Well is all a measure of someone

[58:20] else's opinion. One person's this is

[58:22] very good is another person's I don't

[58:24] like that at all.

[58:26] But, we understand, dear one, for with

[58:29] you you have an imprint that you came in

[58:33] with as a soul that got played out for

[58:36] you very deeply in your childhood. You

[58:39] know the story of Cinderella, a very

[58:42] well-known archetype on this planet.

[58:45] Well, you were never allowed to be

[58:46] Cinderella, but instead you were shoved

[58:48] into the kitchen at an early age when it

[58:51] came to the needs, wants, and desires of

[58:54] those that you were around when you were

[58:56] young.

[58:57] And that imprint has never fully left

[59:00] you, but it didn't just start in this

[59:02] lifetime.

[59:03] You've had many past lifetimes where it

[59:06] was safer for you to stay quiet than to

[59:10] use your voice and speak your truth. So,

[59:13] much of your life you have spent in

[59:18] survival mode when it comes to

[59:19] relationships. And this is very

[59:22] frustrating for you because you are a

[59:23] person who is very magical. You are very

[59:26] aligned with the magical. You are

[59:28] aligned with the mystical. You are

[59:30] aligned with the creative. And when you

[59:33] are not in those energies and those

[59:35] elements, you suffer. Especially because

[59:38] the relationships around you and the way

[59:40] that you have

[59:41] held or not held your boundary in those

[59:45] over the years means that you are highly

[59:47] permeable to the wills and desires of

[59:50] others. And that you are not

[59:52] broadcasting the wills and desire of

[59:54] yourself.

[59:56] So that makes your relationships tricky.

[59:59] And yes, of course, with parenting, it

[1:00:02] is its own kind of challenge. That is a

[1:00:05] very challenging relationship. But if

[1:00:07] you are one who has

[1:00:08] never fully felt she or he can own

[1:00:13] themselves,

[1:00:14] then you often feel in a state of flux

[1:00:18] and as if the world is ping-ponging you

[1:00:20] around.

[1:00:21] And so

[1:00:22] we are aware we do not have much time

[1:00:25] here. So there are only so many layers

[1:00:27] of this we can go into.

[1:00:29] But what we will say to you is this.

[1:00:33] The idea of you doing something well is

[1:00:36] an illusion.

[1:00:37] Because your idea of doing something

[1:00:39] well

[1:00:41] is fed by all of the ideas that you were

[1:00:44] fed as a child.

[1:00:46] Where you weren't fully seen or

[1:00:49] celebrated. Of course, there were

[1:00:50] moments and of course, there were

[1:00:51] certain people and of course, there were

[1:00:53] certain things that you did that you

[1:00:55] felt successful in. But for you, doing

[1:00:58] something well or quote unquote success

[1:01:02] is actually the feeling of being present

[1:01:05] enough to be fully seen. You see, anyone

[1:01:09] who has a wound of not feeling seen is

[1:01:12] actually nursing a wound of not being

[1:01:15] able to be fully present.

[1:01:17] It is hard for them to maintain their

[1:01:19] own energy when they are around others.

[1:01:20] It is hard for them to speak their

[1:01:23] needs. It is hard for them to be fully

[1:01:25] honest about what they are feeling or

[1:01:27] seeing. And by the way, we understand

[1:01:29] that is a not easy journey to walk

[1:01:32] through. We are not in any way

[1:01:33] admonishing everyone who feels that way

[1:01:36] because we know that can be very

[1:01:37] painful. The pain you feel when you are

[1:01:40] in that state is the pain of

[1:01:41] disconnection. Disconnection from

[1:01:44] yourself and thus disconnection from

[1:01:47] others because if you are not fully

[1:01:48] connected to yourself, you cannot be

[1:01:50] fully connected to others.

[1:01:52] It is actually better to what you might

[1:01:55] call behave badly and then feel bad

[1:01:59] about the way you behaved than to be too

[1:02:02] afraid to behave at all in terms of your

[1:02:05] connection to yourself. We're not saying

[1:02:07] that the world would prefer that. Most

[1:02:09] of the world would not want you to

[1:02:10] behave badly if you could just be

[1:02:11] disconnected cuz that would bother them

[1:02:13] less. But for you,

[1:02:16] it is actually more soul-crushing to not

[1:02:20] let yourself behave the way you want to

[1:02:23] than to, for example, behave in a way

[1:02:25] that you then slightly regret and make a

[1:02:28] note to not do next time.

[1:02:30] So, a great thing for you to do would be

[1:02:32] this.

[1:02:34] Align yourself more with the magical and

[1:02:36] the creative and do not expect anyone in

[1:02:38] your life to align in that with you.

[1:02:40] Even the people that you might say enjoy

[1:02:42] those areas with you. Very important for

[1:02:45] you to find this by yourself because you

[1:02:47] are a magical force.

[1:02:50] You haven't fully tapped into that, but

[1:02:52] there have been moments. But your magic

[1:02:54] and your creativity are your purpose

[1:02:57] here on Earth.

[1:02:58] And then secondly,

[1:03:00] learn to observe those people with whom

[1:03:04] you feel good and those people with whom

[1:03:06] you don't. And this is not about making

[1:03:08] it about them, but start to spend more

[1:03:11] time with people and in places that you

[1:03:13] feel good so that you can learn

[1:03:16] what parts of you are holding you

[1:03:19] hostage in relationships or in places

[1:03:21] that you don't really want to be.

[1:03:24] Is it a belief that you have to be there

[1:03:26] for this person who is suffering even

[1:03:27] though this person treats you very badly

[1:03:29] and more importantly, you being there

[1:03:31] for their suffering does not actually

[1:03:33] seem to bring them any long-term

[1:03:34] improvements. You're just being asked to

[1:03:37] dress and redress their wounds over and

[1:03:39] over again while you are slowly drained

[1:03:41] of blood yourself.

[1:03:43] So, it is going to be an important time

[1:03:46] in your life for you to

[1:03:49] ask yourself, I am alive right now and

[1:03:52] if I knew I was going to die in 6 months

[1:03:54] time,

[1:03:56] what would I really want to experience

[1:03:58] here on Earth and how can I get all of

[1:04:00] those people out of my head whose

[1:04:03] opinions of me or opinions of who or

[1:04:06] what I should be?

[1:04:07] How can I get those out of my head so

[1:04:10] that I can go and discover what I want?

[1:04:13] So, there will be an element of solo

[1:04:15] journey in this for you. Not that you

[1:04:17] have to go off to a cave and create by

[1:04:19] yourself, but you may need to go to

[1:04:21] creative spaces, workshops, places where

[1:04:25] you can let your magic come online

[1:04:28] because one of your soul gifts is magic

[1:04:31] and creativity. And if you can lean into

[1:04:33] those more, you will see as is true for

[1:04:36] any of you,

[1:04:38] when you lean into a gift of your

[1:04:39] purpose, it makes it far easier to start

[1:04:43] to see the areas in your life that need

[1:04:46] to vibrationally improve in tandem with

[1:04:49] this allowance of purposeful energy that

[1:04:52] comes through you. You then start to

[1:04:54] look at the relationships, the places,

[1:04:56] the ways you're spending time that do

[1:04:58] feel in high contrast to how connected

[1:05:02] you feel when you are in your purpose

[1:05:04] and it helps you clean up the rest of

[1:05:06] your life, but not because someone

[1:05:08] forced you down to the kitchen to clean

[1:05:10] on their behalf because you're

[1:05:12] Cinderella and you've decided you want

[1:05:15] to come home from the ball and have a

[1:05:17] nice clean house.

[1:05:20] We hope that some of what we have said

[1:05:22] can be applicable and usable to you and

[1:05:24] we wish you much love.

[1:05:28] Thank you.

[1:05:31] Thank you, Anne. You'll be able to come

[1:05:32] back and watch that.

[1:05:34] Thank you, Anne.

[1:05:35] Thank you.

[1:05:37] Lee.

[1:05:38] Mhm.

[1:05:40] Are we back

[1:05:40] with you here?

[1:05:41] Yeah.

[1:05:42] Uh thank you so much, Lee, for being

[1:05:45] here and sharing with us and sharing

[1:05:47] your gift with us and sharing disease

[1:05:49] with us and this whole experience and

[1:05:51] for staying a little bit late to show

[1:05:53] all of us the power of this. Um if you

[1:05:55] felt power in this experience tonight,

[1:05:58] uh I would love for you to put some ones

[1:06:00] in the chat box as a thank you to Lee,

[1:06:03] disease, and this whole community for

[1:06:05] coming together. May you see the cascade

[1:06:07] is coming through. Um Lee, we obviously

[1:06:09] have a link to your book and your work

[1:06:11] and your website and all of that is

[1:06:12] going to be here for everybody who's

[1:06:14] watching the recording and everybody

[1:06:15] here already has it. Is there anything

[1:06:17] else you'd like to share before we sign

[1:06:18] off today?

[1:06:20] No, just thank you everybody. Thank you,

[1:06:21] Justin, for as always holding such a

[1:06:24] beautiful space and inviting me and just

[1:06:26] lovely to meet you all and um you know,

[1:06:28] we all have our back. We we all have

[1:06:31] each other's back and on the days that

[1:06:33] we're not feeling it, someone else will

[1:06:34] lift us up and that's kind of how it

[1:06:36] works. So,

[1:06:38] um it was beautiful to be here with all

[1:06:40] of you tonight and um sending you all

[1:06:41] lots of love.

[1:06:43] Thank you, Lee. As we close out tonight,

[1:06:45] this is one of the ways we end all of

[1:06:46] our sessions together, everyone. So,

[1:06:48] please place a hand over the center of

[1:06:49] your chest, the other hand on top of

[1:06:50] that. Close your eyes for a moment.

[1:06:53] Take a deep, full breath in

[1:06:56] and a deep breath out.

[1:06:58] And another breath in.

[1:07:00] Hold it for a moment.

[1:07:02] And a breath out.

[1:07:05] And if you could think of just one

[1:07:08] golden nugget for yourself,

[1:07:10] one key takeaway that you want to make

[1:07:12] sure you take with you from this

[1:07:13] conversation today, just one thing.

[1:07:16] Pick one specific thing.

[1:07:19] What would it be?

[1:07:24] And just repeat that in your mind a few

[1:07:25] times

[1:07:27] to get it into the long-term memory,

[1:07:29] commit it into the long-term memory.

[1:07:33] So whatever it is, the golden nugget,

[1:07:35] repeat the phrase several times in your

[1:07:37] head.

[1:07:40] And then open your eyes and write it

[1:07:41] down for yourself and put it in the chat

[1:07:43] box and we will end today with a cascade

[1:07:47] of golden nuggets in the chat box for

[1:07:50] all of us. I see you.

[1:07:52] Lee, we all have each other's backs.

[1:07:54] Alexa, expand. Barbie, magic is real.

[1:07:56] Janine, the body test. Barbara, that I

[1:07:59] am not alone. My spirit guides and

[1:08:01] angels are always with me. Look at all

[1:08:03] these coming in.

[1:08:04] Daphne's, everything is bigger than we

[1:08:07] think. Rosie, connect to the light.

[1:08:10] There we go. Lean into the earth

[1:08:11] vibration, Jill.

[1:08:14] Sue, see yourself and maybe they will

[1:08:16] see you. Light is everywhere, Leslie. So

[1:08:18] they continue to come in and this is how

[1:08:20] we'll end our session today just typing

[1:08:22] in these golden nuggets. And the key is,

[1:08:24] like Lee started with today as we

[1:08:26] connect into the light, as you take

[1:08:27] these golden nuggets for yourself and

[1:08:29] you start to live them into your own

[1:08:31] experience, we get to be these beacons

[1:08:34] out into the world where you get to

[1:08:35] bring these lessons and bring these

[1:08:36] teachings to everyone who is not here

[1:08:39] and will never be here in in in these

[1:08:41] environments and in this moment and we

[1:08:42] get to be nodes spreading love out into

[1:08:45] the world. And with that, I love you

[1:08:48] all. I'm going to unmute the line. So

[1:08:50] actually I'll stop the recording so you

[1:08:51] don't all you know, have your videos on.

[1:08:53] So hold on 1 second. Hold on. Bye

[1:08:55] everyone.

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