Transcript
[1:02] Good evening Ajahn.
[1:02] >> Hello mate.
[1:04] >> Good evening everyone.
[1:06] Um look at all these people here and uh
[1:08] it's not Bhante Ajahn.
[1:11] >> [laughter]
[1:11] >> I am a I am a flopping disappointment.
[1:18] >> Um we're very glad that you you could
[1:20] make it tonight Ajahn.
[1:22] Um
[1:23] uh Bhante Ajahn as I understand it is
[1:25] not well.
[1:26] Um and so he's unable to take this
[1:29] evening's guided meditation.
[1:31] Um if those of you who heard him teach
[1:34] on the weekend will notice his voice was
[1:35] not particularly healthy.
[1:38] Um but his his Dhamma talk was a very
[1:40] good talk and if you want to go and
[1:41] listen to it it's it's there on YouTube.
[1:44] Uh in the meantime we're fortunate to
[1:45] have uh Ajahn Sudhiro
[1:47] who is will lead the guided meditation
[1:49] tonight.
[1:51] Um is anyone who's here at BSV for the
[1:53] first time?
[1:56] Welcome. Um just one person.
[1:59] I'll just quickly through the um
[2:02] the schedule. Um first we might just get
[2:05] have a few words from Ajahn and then
[2:07] we'll meditate until about 8:30.
[2:10] At 8:30 we'll have a few brief
[2:12] announcements about what's happening in
[2:14] the coming week or so at the BSB and
[2:16] then we'll have time for some questions.
[2:19] If you have a question here in the hall
[2:21] here you can raise your hand. Uh if
[2:23] you're online joining us through YouTube
[2:25] um welcome and you can type your
[2:27] question into the live chat.
[2:28] Um if you are here in the hall please
[2:30] make sure your phone is turned off um or
[2:33] on silent so there's no interruption to
[2:35] the meditation.
[2:37] Thank you Ajahn.
[2:38] >> Yep. All right Paul. Okay so
[2:41] so as Lang didn't said I'm not what's on
[2:43] the box today so you I'll I'll lead the
[2:47] guided meditation. I'll lead the
[2:49] Unfortunately I don't have a Canadian
[2:51] accent. I can just do the the buddy. Hey
[2:53] buddy, hey pal. That's all I can do.
[2:55] [gasps] The Canadian Canadianisms. So
[2:58] yeah so with that we'll um we'll keep it
[3:00] pretty simple tonight so we'll just uh
[3:03] most people here have have a practice
[3:04] already so [gasps] uh the usual
[3:07] disclaimer. I'll give a few a little bit
[3:10] of guidance. Uh if you want to follow it
[3:12] great. If you don't want to follow it
[3:13] that's fine as well. Just do your own
[3:15] practice. So with that we'll get
[3:17] started.
[4:20] >> As you allow your body to
[4:23] settle in,
[4:27] just take a moment to reflect on
[4:29] [clears throat]
[4:31] why it is you're coming here to
[4:33] practice.
[4:38] What kinds of things are you
[4:42] working towards abandoning?
[4:45] What kinds of things are you
[4:48] working towards developing?
[4:55] And how are you
[4:58] going about that?
[5:08] And see if you can
[5:10] make an intention
[5:12] determination
[5:16] just for the period of this sit.
[5:21] You'll work towards these things
[5:26] in whatever way that you
[5:29] want to practice towards those things
[5:31] that you'll
[5:33] that you'll stick with it.
[5:46] We're not necessarily trying to
[5:50] preempt
[5:51] results
[5:52] or expect
[5:55] certain outcomes, but rather
[6:00] at least having a north star to
[6:04] to which we
[6:05] direct ourselves
[6:08] and put in the right
[6:09] causes.
[6:24] So just before you start, make that
[6:26] intentional determination to
[6:31] put everything else aside and just
[6:36] work on your mind.
[8:07] And just
[8:08] allow yourself to
[8:12] ease into
[8:13] whatever practice
[8:17] you find most useful.
[8:24] The way that you're working with.
[8:39] Again, I'm not trying to think of the
[8:42] outcome or results, rather
[8:47] what's the skill
[8:50] that you're developing?
[9:08] Skills take time and
[9:12] perseverance and
[9:13] repetition.
[9:27] [clears throat]
[9:27] So whatever
[9:31] meditation skill that you're working
[9:33] with,
[9:38] to me you can do it in that way where
[9:41] you're patiently, repetitively
[12:17] >> [clears throat]
[13:07] >> Mm.
[15:11] >> I
[19:00] >> Yeah.
[21:17] >> This
[25:33] >> [snorts]
[26:13] >> Even if there is
[26:17] movement,
[26:19] noise,
[26:21] distraction
[26:25] from outside,
[26:32] is there a that you can
[26:38] make the inside even more still?
[26:48] Is there a way
[26:52] put those things outside down?
[27:34] What's going on with
[27:38] other bodies,
[27:40] sounds, the world?
[27:46] Let your concern
[27:49] not right now anyway.
[28:23] Current job,
[28:25] current role
[28:30] is to make things still
[28:35] right here.
[28:44] There's movement and flow around us and
[28:48] this doesn't matter.
[28:53] As long as we are like
[28:55] right here
[28:56] still and quiet as possible.
[32:16] >> Mm.
[33:08] >> Yeah.
[33:19] >> Yeah.
[35:21] >> I
[36:34] >> [clears throat]
[36:54] >> Coughing
[36:55] >> [clears throat]
[41:45] >> I
[45:34] >> 4
[47:27] >> Yeah.
[49:46] >> I
[51:58] >> Yeah.
[54:00] >> I
[59:15] >> So
[59:15] >> You can
[59:19] start to take maybe
[59:23] a few
[59:24] final
[59:26] mindful breaths.
[59:35] You can start to
[59:38] move your body around a little bit,
[59:40] adjust
[59:42] your posture.
[59:49] And
[59:51] when you're ready you can
[59:54] open your eyes and we'll
[59:55] end the meditation session here.
[1:00:49] Thank you very much Ajahn Brahm.
[1:00:52] A quick few announcements. This Sunday
[1:00:54] is the robe offering ceremony at the
[1:00:57] Sanctuary of Stillness for anyone who's
[1:00:58] interested.
[1:01:00] That is starting at 9:30 a.m. and goes
[1:01:03] through to 3 p.m.
[1:01:05] And the Sanctuary of Stillness, just for
[1:01:07] those of you who aren't sure, is at
[1:01:09] Newbury Buddhist Monastery about an hour
[1:01:11] and a half away.
[1:01:12] There was a special newsletter sent out
[1:01:14] recently in October with details or you
[1:01:17] can check our website.
[1:01:20] You're very welcome.
[1:01:22] Please bring ready to eat food if you're
[1:01:24] coming as there's no food preparation
[1:01:26] and reheating available.
[1:01:32] There are a couple of upcoming retreats.
[1:01:35] There's one from the 27th of November to
[1:01:37] the 2nd of December with Bhante Chunda
[1:01:39] and Bodhidaja at Sanctuary of Stillness
[1:01:42] and Ajahn Sona is offering a retreat
[1:01:45] post Christmas between the 26th on and
[1:01:48] the 31st of December
[1:01:51] again at Sanctuary of Stillness. So
[1:01:53] thank you Ajahn.
[1:01:54] Registrations for that one open this
[1:01:57] Friday on the 13th
[1:02:00] for members only initially.
[1:02:03] Options available for online
[1:02:05] participation.
[1:02:06] >> Yep.
[1:02:07] >> So if you can't be there in person, if
[1:02:09] you're joining us from somewhere else in
[1:02:10] the world and would like to participate,
[1:02:12] that's an option for you.
[1:02:14] Next week's teaching program.
[1:02:18] There'll be nothing on the Sunday here
[1:02:20] just to make sure no one turns up here
[1:02:22] because of
[1:02:24] the robe offering on Sunday, but
[1:02:26] next Monday Ajahn Sona will be back.
[1:02:30] >> I'm
[1:02:31] just Groundhog Day. I'm always here.
[1:02:33] >> Next time not pretending to be Bhante
[1:02:35] Jo.
[1:02:37] They're all the announcements.
[1:02:39] Are there any questions here in the hall
[1:02:41] to start with?
[1:02:52] We do have an online question Ajahn, so
[1:02:54] start with that.
[1:03:01] Dear Bhante, could you please explain
[1:03:04] the connection between sila
[1:03:07] and meditation and maybe explain what
[1:03:10] sila is as well.
[1:03:12] Why is an ethical foundation important
[1:03:15] when I sit to meditate? Thank you.
[1:03:19] >> Okay, yeah look
[1:03:20] >> Um
[1:03:22] uh really good foundational kind of
[1:03:24] question.
[1:03:25] Um I could really rant about this for a
[1:03:29] very long time because this is just kind
[1:03:31] of essentially what I do um in my other
[1:03:34] guise of not this in the
[1:03:38] in the other kind of academic world that
[1:03:40] I that I swim in like I look at the
[1:03:41] relationship between ethics and and
[1:03:44] meditation. Um so look I won't give you
[1:03:47] a an overly technical definition of it
[1:03:49] but I could rant a lot about it for a
[1:03:52] very long time and confuse the hell out
[1:03:54] of all of you um with stupid facts.
[1:03:58] [gasps] So but obviously I don't think
[1:04:00] you're asking a question about that. Um
[1:04:03] um the you know what I'm assuming the
[1:04:06] question about is like well why is
[1:04:08] actually
[1:04:09] why what is why and what is uh
[1:04:13] upholding some kind of ethical framework
[1:04:15] what is that actually going to do for
[1:04:17] the for the quality of my mind and my
[1:04:19] meditation.
[1:04:20] And so
[1:04:21] if we look at this from like a Buddhist
[1:04:23] perspective the Buddhist perspective is
[1:04:25] that essentially essentially that um you
[1:04:28] know obviously a lot of the kind of
[1:04:30] turmoil that we have um like uh
[1:04:34] externally um uh comes from you know the
[1:04:37] way that we kind of act in the world and
[1:04:39] our you know
[1:04:40] ethical engagement in the world.
[1:04:42] And you know and so if we're ethically
[1:04:45] engaging in the world in a in a you know
[1:04:47] one in a in a moral kind of way then you
[1:04:50] know this usually leads to a pretty
[1:04:52] stress-free life.
[1:04:53] [gasps] Uh but if we're being unethical
[1:04:56] um you know unethical going about the
[1:04:58] world uh creating you know you know uh
[1:05:01] creating moral problems
[1:05:03] this usually increases a lot of stress
[1:05:05] within our lives um yeah um the idea is
[1:05:08] as well is like say for example say for
[1:05:11] example you're doing you're doing things
[1:05:13] that are immoral you know this does have
[1:05:15] a kind of an impact on the mind.
[1:05:17] [sighs and gasps] You know so so the
[1:05:19] idea from the Buddhist perspective is
[1:05:21] the, you know, if if we can if we can
[1:05:24] get a control of our, you know, our
[1:05:26] speech, of our actions, and our and our
[1:05:28] behavior, and then to do them in a, you
[1:05:31] know, more ethical way, [gasps] this
[1:05:33] will kind of lead to a more of an
[1:05:35] outside calm. But there's also this what
[1:05:38] this will also do as well is help us
[1:05:40] with things like, you know, the um
[1:05:44] you know, not acting on our impulses in
[1:05:46] any
[1:05:47] um so
[1:05:49] so essentially the idea from the
[1:05:51] Buddhist perspective is if if we can get
[1:05:52] that part of our life like pretty good,
[1:05:55] then it actually makes it a lot easier
[1:05:57] for us to to practice as well um you
[1:06:00] know, because you know, we're not
[1:06:01] worrying about as many things.
[1:06:03] Now the idea again from the Buddhist
[1:06:04] perspective as well once we go to like
[1:06:06] another level of that
[1:06:08] is that the more, you know, refined that
[1:06:10] we can be in the way that we're thinking
[1:06:13] and speaking and acting in the world,
[1:06:15] you know, the more refined our mind is
[1:06:17] going to be and the more that we
[1:06:18] actually learn to calm our mind down,
[1:06:21] the more we kind of see insight into
[1:06:24] that
[1:06:25] certain
[1:06:27] certain phenomena causes suffering not
[1:06:29] only for us but also for others as well.
[1:06:32] The more sensitive we become to that, we
[1:06:34] kind of we become more sensitive to the
[1:06:36] like to the suffering that we're
[1:06:38] producing not only in ourselves but in
[1:06:39] the world and because we just become a
[1:06:41] little bit more attuned to it through
[1:06:43] through insight and calm within our own
[1:06:45] mind.
[1:06:47] So and the more we can do that, we can
[1:06:49] we can kind of realize that well, you
[1:06:51] know, if there's in some way if it's
[1:06:53] producing suffering, you know, it can be
[1:06:55] seen as producing some sort of harm, so
[1:06:57] therefore
[1:06:58] it might be seen as moral in some ways.
[1:07:01] And so the more we kind of work on our
[1:07:03] mind, the more refined we'll be in our
[1:07:06] ethical and moral sensitivity to the
[1:07:07] world.
[1:07:09] And so [sighs]
[1:07:10] and
[1:07:10] so the idea from this Buddhist
[1:07:12] perspective is it's reciprocal in this
[1:07:14] way. So the more refined you can get in
[1:07:17] your your speech, your thoughts, your
[1:07:20] actions,
[1:07:21] the more refined you'll be able to make
[1:07:22] your mind, the more calm you'll be able
[1:07:24] to make the mind, the more calm you're
[1:07:26] able to make the mind, again, the more
[1:07:28] ethical sensitivity that you might have,
[1:07:30] the more ethical sensitivity you might
[1:07:31] have makes your mind practice better.
[1:07:34] So, it's it's essentially ethics and
[1:07:37] meditation, they're really seen as like
[1:07:39] going hand in hand. Um and and and
[1:07:42] actually like from the Buddhist
[1:07:43] perspective you can't really have one
[1:07:45] without the other.
[1:07:47] Um so say for example, to develop on the
[1:07:51] eightfold path um we have what's called
[1:07:54] like you know uh right
[1:07:57] or um what's so like right livelihood.
[1:08:00] Uh sorry, we have
[1:08:02] um uh like right livelihood and right
[1:08:04] action.
[1:08:07] Right action.
[1:08:08] Now and we have the opposite of that, we
[1:08:10] have
[1:08:13] like wrong livelihood, wrong action.
[1:08:16] So, it's it's essentially like we can't
[1:08:19] develop the Buddhist idea about this
[1:08:21] thing is like we can't really actually
[1:08:22] develop on the path
[1:08:25] to the fullest extent if we don't have
[1:08:27] an ethical foundation there, but the
[1:08:28] ethical foundation has to work in
[1:08:30] with the meditative side of it. So, say
[1:08:32] for example, right action, right action,
[1:08:36] you know this is something where we're
[1:08:38] not only developing you know our our
[1:08:40] speech and our action in the world, but
[1:08:42] then we're also working with like with
[1:08:44] right effort
[1:08:46] So,
[1:08:47] is like where we're learning to develop
[1:08:49] skillful qualities and abandon
[1:08:50] unskillful qualities. So, we need to
[1:08:52] take that effort that that aspect of
[1:08:54] right effort then also apply it to
[1:08:56] action as well.
[1:08:58] So, the idea here is here, it's a long
[1:09:00] way of saying it, but like essentially
[1:09:02] like
[1:09:02] these two things are wrapped up
[1:09:04] together, they're not really that
[1:09:07] inseparable.
[1:09:08] And just the kind of closing um thought
[1:09:10] to this uh is that um I'm quite quite
[1:09:14] fond of saying is like well you know we
[1:09:16] practice meditation and why why do we
[1:09:19] actually practice?
[1:09:21] [sighs and gasps]
[1:09:21] If we think about what practice is, it's
[1:09:23] like well we're practicing for something
[1:09:24] and the way at least for me the way I
[1:09:26] see it is like you're practicing for the
[1:09:28] rest of your life. And so the rest of
[1:09:30] your life is actually how you're
[1:09:31] interacting with the rest of the world.
[1:09:33] [gasps] And if we can kind of interact
[1:09:35] with the world in a more kind of ethical
[1:09:37] way, then we are kind of improving I
[1:09:39] think we are in some way improving the
[1:09:40] world. So, you know, we're
[1:09:43] we don't want to kind of think about
[1:09:44] this in the way that, you know, you
[1:09:46] know, we have to um you know, we have to
[1:09:49] do certain kinds of things therefore
[1:09:50] that will make
[1:09:52] my mind better. So therefore it will be
[1:09:54] better for me.
[1:09:56] We can also think about it in the way if
[1:09:57] I make my mind better, I am actually
[1:09:59] like a better source of of you know,
[1:10:02] ethical engagement for the world as
[1:10:04] well.
[1:10:07] >> Thank you very much Ajahn. That might
[1:10:08] have been just a very mild form of a
[1:10:10] rant.
[1:10:11] >> Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh god,
[1:10:13] rant could go a lot longer.
[1:10:15] >> Yeah.
[1:10:17] >> Would you like to hear about all the
[1:10:18] different studies and what they do to to
[1:10:21] different aspects of our moral
[1:10:22] functioning and your and anyway.
[1:10:24] >> [laughter]
[1:10:25] >> Maybe next week.
[1:10:30] Uh are there any questions here in the
[1:10:31] hall?
[1:10:42] Uh we do have another online question.
[1:10:43] Yeah, Ajahn.
[1:10:45] When I meditate and my mindfulness is
[1:10:47] quite weak,
[1:10:49] my mind [clears throat] is drifting and
[1:10:50] I tend to forget meditation object.
[1:10:54] Is it better to bring the mind back to
[1:10:55] it or change and do walking meditation
[1:10:58] or something else?
[1:11:00] >> Yeah.
[1:11:01] Yeah, so it kind of depends. If you're
[1:11:03] drifting because maybe you're starting
[1:11:07] to feel tired and sleepy,
[1:11:09] um then you know, probably it is better
[1:11:12] to like to get up and move the body
[1:11:14] around a little bit and kind of wake
[1:11:15] yourself up to some extent.
[1:11:17] But if you're just drifting because of
[1:11:20] the like the the general the general
[1:11:23] level of distraction that we all have to
[1:11:24] deal with that our mind does wander off,
[1:11:27] then you know, in some ways in ways, you
[1:11:29] could say that it's that it's better to
[1:11:31] just to just stay with the actual
[1:11:33] meditation that you're trying to do.
[1:11:35] Um, so say, for example, tonight we
[1:11:37] started the meditation off by going,
[1:11:39] okay, well, why am I you know, why am I
[1:11:41] practicing? What kind of things am I
[1:11:43] trying to develop? And how am I trying
[1:11:45] to do that? So the how am I trying to do
[1:11:47] that is, well, let's say I'm just kind
[1:11:49] of watching the breath or something like
[1:11:50] that.
[1:11:51] Now, look, within the process of of a
[1:11:54] full hour of practice, you know, you get
[1:11:56] distracted and all these different kinds
[1:11:58] of things, but, you know, then you have
[1:12:00] a you have a very simple how when you
[1:12:03] get distracted of like, okay,
[1:12:05] I started off the meditation by going I
[1:12:06] was just going to watch my breath, so
[1:12:08] hey, I'm getting distracted, so
[1:12:10] instead of trying to think about it too
[1:12:11] much, let's just go back to the breath.
[1:12:14] [gasps]
[1:12:14] Now, so so I think what we have to um,
[1:12:19] you know, determine uh, if we're going
[1:12:21] to to change meditation like midway
[1:12:23] through is it like, well, why am I
[1:12:25] changing?
[1:12:26] Am I changing and getting up and doing
[1:12:28] something sort of walking because I'm
[1:12:29] tired? Um, am I getting up and doing
[1:12:31] some sort of walking because actually my
[1:12:33] body's like in
[1:12:34] like it's you know, it's really in a lot
[1:12:36] of pain and I actually have to do that?
[1:12:38] Um, am I changing meditation midway
[1:12:41] through because actually the whole time
[1:12:43] I've been sitting here I've just been in
[1:12:44] an absolute fury uh, thinking about like
[1:12:48] this this person that sent me this
[1:12:50] email. And so actually what I need to do
[1:12:53] you know, because I've been sitting here
[1:12:54] for 40 minutes and all I can do is stew
[1:12:56] on how much I hate this person.
[1:12:58] Maybe I should change at that point and
[1:12:59] do some kind of
[1:13:01] kindness or compassion-based meditation.
[1:13:03] And so those kinds of reasons are okay
[1:13:06] to to change if we're trying to we're
[1:13:08] trying to balance something out a little
[1:13:09] bit more.
[1:13:11] But if it is just the normal the normal
[1:13:13] distraction that we all deal with, you
[1:13:15] know, usually it is just a better idea
[1:13:17] just to keep it simple and just go,
[1:13:18] okay, well, okay, the mind's wandered
[1:13:20] off again, that's fine, I'll just come
[1:13:21] back to
[1:13:23] that that original uh, meditation method
[1:13:25] that I was using at the start, maybe the
[1:13:27] breath or whatever it was. So yeah, hope
[1:13:29] that helps.
[1:13:31] >> Thank you very much, Ajahn. Any more
[1:13:33] questions?
[1:13:39] No, it looks like we might have come to
[1:13:40] the end of the evening. Thank you,
[1:13:41] Ajahn.
[1:13:42] >> We'll call it a night, then. Good to see
[1:13:43] everyone.
[1:13:45] See you next time.