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Self-Compassion Without the Ego Trap: What Zen Actually Teaches

HZ
Hardcore Zen
Oct 27, 2026
7 min read

From Hardcore Zen

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The question arrives with real weight: for most of my life, I have felt distant from others and felt less than. My pride and my ego at times make me feel in my mind that I am superior, but for the most part I feel less than. Is it possible to develop compassion for yourself through sitting and following the Zen path? It's a question that cuts through the spiritual self-improvement racket to something rawer—the gap between wanting to be compassionate and actually feeling it, between doing good and feeling good about doing good, between helping others and helping yourself. And it matters. The asker is caught in what many practitioners encounter: the moment when Buddhist practice seems to promise healing but instead magnifies the contradictions, the shame, the suspicion that every act of kindness is tainted by ego.

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The Hand Reaching for the Pillow in the Dark

Brad Warner, who has spent decades studying and teaching Zen Buddhism, approaches this tangle not by reassuring the questioner but by reframing what compassion actually is. He points to Dogen's essay on Kanzeon (Avalokiteshvara, the bodhisattva of compassion), where Dogen quotes a past Zen master: "Compassion is like a hand reaching for a pillow in the night or reaching back to adjust a pillow in the night." That image contains everything. You're asleep. You're not thinking about merit or virtue or being a good person. Your hand simply reaches, adjusts the pillow, and the comfort occurs—but there's no conscious doer, no sense of transaction. Nobody even knows the action happened. It was automatic, arising from need, not from intention to accumulate spiritual brownie points.

This spontaneity is central to understanding why so much Buddhist-inflected self-improvement culture gets compassion backwards. Many practitioners, Warner suggests, approach compassion like a project: What can I do to be compassionate today? They go out looking for opportunities to help, motivated by the desire to be a "good person," to rack up merit, to prove to themselves or others that their practice is working. And yes, this produces real help—Warner acknowledges his friend who volunteers at homeless shelters and donates blood regularly. But the underlying dynamic has shifted. The action is no longer arising from the immediate circumstance; it's being pursued as a way to construct an identity.

Why Your Thoughts Don't Ruin Your Actions

The questioner worries that when they give money, selfish thoughts arise. Maybe they want approval. Maybe they want to feel superior. Maybe the act is wasteful and causes harm. Does that contaminate the gift? Warner's answer is almost casual in its directness: it doesn't matter. "You can't really help what sort of thoughts flow through your head when you're doing something compassionate," he says. If you're helping an old lady across the street and a thought bubbles up that you might get merit for this, or that this makes you a good person, so what? The thought and the action can coexist. The thought doesn't cancel out the help.

This cuts against a certain strand of Buddhist teaching that warns against performing good acts motivated by the desire for merit—a concern found in early Buddhist texts that caution against cultivating karma like a transaction. Warner doesn't dismiss this teaching. But he also recognizes its limits. The mind is not a machine you can reprogram to have no thoughts about yourself while you're helping someone else. And demanding that of yourself is its own form of ego, a way of trying to be so spiritually pure that you become brittle, performative, alienated from the actual moment.

The Three Wheels That Don't Exist

There's a chant recited at many Zen meals that Warner references: "Let us remember the emptiness of the three wheels—giver, receiver, and gift." The teaching embedded in those lines suggests that in genuine compassionate action, the boundaries dissolve. You're not a subject doing something for an object (the other person). You're not separate. The gift itself isn't a thing passing between two solid things. All three collapse into a single arising, a single emptiness.

When Warner applies this to the questioner's anxiety, something shifts. Yes, when you give money, you benefit from it and the other person benefits. But that's not a problem—it's the point. "When you do compassionate action, you're doing it both for yourself and for somebody else." Dogen extends this all the way to work itself. He says that even a job—which most of us think of as something we do for ourselves, for a paycheck—is originally dana, or "free giving." The system has evolved so that the reward comes in the form of a salary, but fundamentally you're doing it for the benefit of all mankind. And when the paycheck arrives, it doesn't contradict that. It's the spontaneous completion of a cycle.

The Trap of Giant Causes

Many people who encounter Zen or Buddhism get seduced by the scale and nobility of the mission. They will end homelessness, stop war, transform consciousness. And those intentions matter. But Warner gently warns against the way this can become another performance, another way of avoiding the small, unglamorous compassions that actually make up a human life. "Don't ignore small compassionate action," he says. Treat the grocery store clerk nicely. Don't be a jerk when you're tired and irritable. These are not minor. In fact, they're where the pillow-adjusting actually happens—in the moments that require nothing from you, no narrative, no story of being a good person or a spiritual seeker.

Building Compassion for Yourself Through Practice

To the heart of the original question—is it possible to develop compassion for yourself through sitting and following the Zen path?—Warner is direct: yes, but not in the way most people expect. You don't sit down to meditate and program yourself to feel love and acceptance. That's still the good-person project, just internalized. Instead, what happens over time is that you see yourself more clearly. You see the patterns, the compulsions, the ways you're caught. And that seeing isn't harsh; it's just clear. You stop believing the stories you've been telling yourself about who you are, and in that clarity, something like compassion can arise—not as sentiment, but as a natural response to suffering, including your own.

And yes, you can develop it further through practice, but it has to go into your life. Warner emphasizes: "You have to put it into practice." It's not enough to sit and feel peaceful and loving. The practice is in how you move through the world, in how you treat the person in front of you, in how you don't demand that you be perfect before you can be kind.

The Irrelevance of Your Approval of Yourself

Late in the talk, Warner circles back to a version of the original predicament. He describes someone who was interested in Zen practice but lost interest partly because their teacher was "more interested in lapa"—suggesting they wanted something other than what traditional Zen offers. Warner doesn't judge this. He observes that different people want different things from their practice, and that's okay. "If they really want to know, then I'm kind of obligated to tell them what I think," he says. "But I'm not going to bang on their door."

This is Warner's radical gentleness. He's saying: stop trying to convince yourself or others that you're practicing correctly. Stop needing to approve of your own motivations. The seeking itself—the worry about whether you're doing it right, whether your compassion is pure enough, whether you deserve to feel good about yourself—that's the whole thing you're trying to get past. Zen practice doesn't lead to self-approval. It leads to something more interesting: self-recognition, which sometimes looks a lot like relief.

Where to go from here

If you're caught between wanting to help and worrying that your help is selfish, the first move is to stop treating compassion as something you must achieve or perfect. The pillow-adjusting hand in the night—that's what you're already doing, more often than you notice. The second move is to practice without the scoreboard. Sit. Pay attention to what's in front of you. Help when it's natural to help. And when doubt arises—about your motivations, your goodness, your worth—recognize it as thought, not as truth. Warner's teaching suggests that the compassion you're looking for isn't elsewhere. It's in this moment, in how you're breathing, in the next small kindness that appears without you having to audition for it.

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[0:00] Hello there thrillsekers. My name is

[0:02] Brad Warner. I've written a bunch of

[0:04] books about Zen Buddhism and I'd like to

[0:06] talk to you today about having

[0:07] compassion for yourself and some other

[0:09] stuff. Let's do that after 25 seconds of

[0:12] Cecilia and by the Surf Tones.

[0:16] [music]

[0:20] [music]

[0:25] [music]

[0:28] All

[0:31] >> [music]

[0:39] [music]

[0:39] >> right, that was Cecilia Anne by the Surf

[0:42] Tone. Some of you may know the cover

[0:43] version by the Pixies. It's actually a

[0:45] fake surf song. It appeared on this

[0:48] compilation, Surf Legends and Rumors

[0:50] 1961-64,

[0:52] where it's listed as being recorded in

[0:54] 1964, but it was actually recorded in

[0:56] the 1980s by the guys who put together

[0:58] the compilation, and it's a good song.

[1:00] So, there you go. All right, let's start

[1:02] out with a question I got from a viewer.

[1:05] And here it goes. [snorts] For most of

[1:07] my life, I have felt distant from others

[1:10] and felt less than. My pride and my ego

[1:13] at times make me feel in my mind that I

[1:15] am superior, but for the most part I

[1:18] feel less than. Is it possible to

[1:20] develop compassion for yourself through

[1:22] sitting and following the Zen path? I

[1:24] try to help people in need and feel

[1:26] better about myself by giving money to

[1:28] others, but in the end it feels selfish

[1:31] and at times wasteful and makes me think

[1:33] that I am doing more harm than good.

[1:36] Like I'm trying to win their approval

[1:37] and get validation for myself for

[1:39] feeling superior. How does one balance

[1:42] helping others versus looking out for

[1:44] oneself? Is it all just ego at the end

[1:46] of the day? Thank you for your channel

[1:48] and your insights. Stay blessed. I like

[1:49] that ending. Okay. Okay. Well, let's

[1:52] talk about that.

[1:54] I've talked about compassion a number of

[1:56] times on this here YouTube channel, and

[1:59] I always reference Dogen's essay uh

[2:03] which is called Oh god, what is it

[2:06] called? Canon. That's what it's called.

[2:09] And canon is the Japanese word for kwan

[2:12] yin in Chinese and avalokeshvara in

[2:16] Sanskrit. Um yeah, I think there's some

[2:19] other names this bodhicatta has. And

[2:21] it's a bodhicattva of compassion. So he

[2:24] or she because sometimes he's depicted

[2:26] as male and sometimes she's depicted as

[2:28] female uh is the bodhicatta who

[2:30] represents compassion. And Dogen wrote

[2:32] an essay about it in Shobenzo. And in

[2:35] his essay, he's quoting I forget the

[2:38] name of the spiritual master. He's

[2:39] quoting some spiritual master in the

[2:41] past, some Zen master in the past. And

[2:43] and he says, "Compassion is like a

[2:46] pillow reaching, sorry, not a pillow.

[2:48] Compassion is like a hand reaching for a

[2:51] pillow in the night or reaching back to

[2:53] adjust a pillow in the night." And you

[2:55] know, I've never seen anybody do a a

[2:58] kind of um commentary on exactly what

[3:01] they think that means, but what I think

[3:03] it means is that it's it's a spontaneous

[3:07] action that you do not specifically for

[3:11] yourself or specifically for somebody

[3:13] else. You just do it because it needs

[3:15] done. And once it's done, nobody even

[3:18] knows that it was done because you're

[3:20] asleep the whole time. and you just get

[3:23] the benefit occurs but there's no sort

[3:26] of doer and dewy I guess the person who

[3:30] it's being done to uh there's also a

[3:32] chant that we do for meals that say uh

[3:35] let us remember the emptiness of the

[3:37] three wheels giver receiver and gift so

[3:42] the person who wrote me is feeling weird

[3:45] about compassion because among other

[3:48] things he doesn't feel like whether he's

[3:50] doing it for himself or doing it for

[3:53] somebody else. And the thing is when you

[3:56] do compassionate action, you're doing it

[3:58] both for yourself and for somebody else.

[4:00] And there is a kind of admonition in

[4:03] some forms of Buddhism

[4:05] not to do compassionate acts just

[4:07] because you want merit. Because in

[4:09] Buddhism, in especially in ancient

[4:11] Buddhism, there's this idea that what

[4:13] you do, the good things you do acrue

[4:16] merit for you. And that merit will give

[4:18] you a better life in this life and give

[4:20] you a better reincarnation in the next

[4:22] life. That's a kind of trope in

[4:25] Buddhism. And there are some early

[4:27] Buddhist texts which will tell you don't

[4:29] do good acts, don't do compassion acts

[4:32] just because of that. And okay, sure.

[4:35] But the thing is, you can't really help

[4:37] what sort of thoughts flow through your

[4:39] head when you're doing something

[4:41] compassionate. when you're when you're

[4:43] helping an old lady across the street or

[4:45] giving uh giving your dog a treat or

[4:47] something like that. I don't know what

[4:49] you know, little compassionate acts or

[4:50] big compassionate acts, you don't know

[4:52] what's going to cross your mind when you

[4:54] do it. And my feeling is it doesn't

[4:56] really matter. I think that's one of the

[4:58] things Dogen is trying to say using that

[5:00] example of the hand reaching for the

[5:02] pillow and adjusting it in the night. It

[5:04] doesn't matter. If you if you feel like

[5:07] you're doing it for yourself, well, then

[5:10] you may you may do more than you need to

[5:12] do. But if you one of the problems with

[5:15] compassion sometimes is among people who

[5:19] are into Buddhism is that they're really

[5:21] into this whole idea of being a good

[5:23] person. And being a good person means

[5:25] doing good things. And so there's a

[5:29] tendency for people who are into this

[5:31] sort of Buddhism and other sort of

[5:33] mindfulness or whatever to go out

[5:35] looking for compassionate things to do

[5:37] like go out look see what you know what

[5:39] can I do compassionate today and I don't

[5:42] think that's usually necessary. I'm not

[5:45] saying that's a bad thing. You know you

[5:47] can you can do those things and I I

[5:49] think they're great. I got a friend who

[5:51] uh volunteers uh to feed the homeless

[5:54] and gives blood like I think every week

[5:56] or something like that. And I think

[5:58] that's great. You know, those are great

[6:00] things to do. But on the other hand,

[6:03] compassion is usually in the Buddhist

[6:06] sense something that comes up

[6:08] spontaneously. And maybe for my friend

[6:09] this came up spontaneously. So that's

[6:11] great. But it's something that that

[6:13] shows up in your life. It's it's a

[6:14] thing. It's the it's the old lady

[6:16] needing a a hand held to walk across the

[6:20] street. That's a you know dumb old

[6:22] example that people give of

[6:23] compassionate action. But it it is

[6:25] something that appears to you. It it's a

[6:28] it's a good example for this even though

[6:30] I don't think it has ever really

[6:31] happened in the history of mankind. But

[6:34] anyway, it it appears to you and you go

[6:36] and you do it. You're the one who's

[6:38] there who can help with the situation

[6:40] and here's the old lady who needs the

[6:42] help and you do it. and and and and you

[6:45] don't have to go out looking for it. You

[6:47] don't have to go trying really hard to

[6:50] be a compassionate person. You just do

[6:53] what needs to be done at that moment.

[6:55] And if while you're helping the old lady

[6:58] across the street, you happen to have a

[7:00] thought like maybe I'll get some merit

[7:02] for this or maybe I'll be reborn in a

[7:05] better life next life. If you believe in

[7:07] that sort of thing, doesn't matter. You

[7:09] still do the action. I have been the

[7:13] beneficiary, is that the word? I have

[7:15] benefited from a lot of people's

[7:16] compassionate action in the past few

[7:19] years. Everybody who donates to this

[7:21] YouTube channel is I think involved in

[7:23] compassionate action towards me because

[7:25] that's how I make a living. But uh Dogen

[7:29] even says that even working a a job is

[7:34] an example of donna which is free giving

[7:37] which is another idea of compassionate

[7:39] action. So it's he says it's originally

[7:43] freegiving. [snorts] So it means it's a

[7:46] sort of system has evolved around it.

[7:49] But what's really happening as far as

[7:51] Dogen is concerned when you're doing a

[7:53] job to make a living is you're doing

[7:56] compassionate action for others. And the

[7:59] the reward or part of the reward or part

[8:02] of the merit if you will for that shows

[8:04] up in the form of a paycheck. But it

[8:06] doesn't matter that much. you're still

[8:08] doing it for the benefit of all mankind.

[8:12] And as I often say, don't ignore small

[8:15] compassionate action because a lot of

[8:17] people who get into this Buddhist stuff

[8:19] uh get into like giant causes. We're

[8:22] going to fix the big cause. We're going

[8:24] to, you know, I don't know, end

[8:25] homelessness or end the war here and

[8:27] there or whatever they're going to do.

[8:29] And okay, fine. But don't ignore the

[8:32] small bits of compassion you can do like

[8:35] treating some the clerk nicely when

[8:37] you're checking out at the grocery store

[8:39] and not being a somebody last night. I

[8:42] don't know what the hell was going on,

[8:44] but I got woken up at 1:30 in the

[8:46] morning by some people having an

[8:48] argument and apparently stomping on some

[8:50] bushes and wrecking the bushes of my

[8:52] neighbor last night. And that's that's

[8:56] not compassionate action because it woke

[8:58] me up and I was up for the next two

[9:00] hours because I'm a light sleeper and I

[9:02] have a hard time going back to sleep

[9:03] once you woke me up. Especially if it's

[9:05] some kind of noise and craziness going

[9:07] on. So that's not compassionate action.

[9:10] So So remember that when you are in a

[9:14] situation where you want to have an

[9:16] argument with somebody at 1:00 in the

[9:17] morning, you know that kind of thing.

[9:19] Hey Ziggy, who you barking at? What you

[9:21] barking at? They're not out there right

[9:24] now. I'm talking about what they were

[9:25] doing last night. See, it woke Ziggy up,

[9:28] too. And he's talking about it. He's

[9:29] telling me about it. No, it's they're

[9:31] they're not here. They're not here right

[9:33] now. Okay.

[9:36] And my questioner says, "Is it possible

[9:38] to develop compassion for yourself

[9:40] through sitting and following the Zen

[9:42] path?" This whole idea of compassion for

[9:44] yourself, I think, is important. The

[9:46] only caveat I put in front of that is

[9:49] that sometimes people get so into the

[9:51] idea of doing compassion and helping

[9:53] yourself and like, oh, the way I can

[9:55] help myself or help others is to help

[9:57] myself that they forget to help others,

[9:59] you know, and I I've seen that happen a

[10:00] few times with people who get so into

[10:02] that. But the thing is, you got to you

[10:04] got to help yourself, you I I think

[10:06] about it in my case uh in order to be

[10:08] able to do my job properly that I've

[10:11] been doing all my you know adult life or

[10:13] not all my adult life ever since I quit

[10:15] working for Super Productions in 200

[10:18] what was it 8 n anyway whatever that

[10:21] I've been doing for a lot of years is I

[10:24] got to help myself I got to help myself

[10:25] get over this condition which I've

[10:26] talked about and new viewers may not

[10:28] know that but I've got a serious health

[10:29] condition and I'm working to uh to get

[10:32] over it and it looks like I may be

[10:35] getting over it, but I don't know. I'm

[10:37] cautiously optimistic, but I got to do

[10:39] that. I got to work on myself. And and

[10:41] there there have been times in the

[10:42] recent past where I've just the only

[10:44] thing I could do was just sit on the

[10:46] couch at home. And in a sense, that's

[10:50] also compassionate action because the

[10:51] only way I'm going to be useful to

[10:53] anybody else is if I heal myself. And

[10:56] the only way I'm going to heal myself is

[10:58] by staying out of things for a while. So

[11:00] even action like that is compassionate

[11:03] action. And can you develop it through

[11:05] Zen and through uh what does he say?

[11:07] Through sitting and through the Zen

[11:08] path. You know, you'll hear a lot about

[11:12] it. And the what you got to do when you

[11:15] hear about it is put that stuff into

[11:18] action. And yeah, you can, but you're

[11:20] going to have to do it. So So it's not

[11:23] going to just happen just because you do

[11:26] Zen or because you listen to these talks

[11:28] or something. You have to put it into

[11:29] action. So yes, the answer is yes, but

[11:32] you got to do stuff. And I got another

[11:34] question which I feel is tangentially

[11:37] related to that one although the

[11:39] relationship between the two questions

[11:40] might be a little obscure and we're

[11:42] going to see what we can do with that.

[11:44] And the question is stated very briefly

[11:46] at the beginning of the email. It goes

[11:49] what should we do when someone gets

[11:51] hurt? And this person quotes Sawaki who

[11:54] says zazen means becoming the absolute

[11:57] self. I can practice zazen only because

[12:00] everyone allows me to practice zazen.

[12:02] Therefore, there is no separation

[12:04] between me and every living being. If I

[12:07] awaken, everyone awakens. This does not

[12:10] mean, however, that remaining deluded is

[12:12] fine. And then the person after this

[12:15] quote goes on, and I'm going to try to

[12:17] give this without giving the specifics

[12:19] because I don't want to out this person.

[12:21] Uh says that someone at the uh the Zen

[12:25] center that this person goes to has

[12:27] resigned and this she has resigned. the

[12:31] person is a woman who resigned. Um, now

[12:35] is following a practice that combines

[12:37] meditation with psychological studies

[12:39] and isn't as interested in Zen anymore

[12:41] and is more interested in vapa.

[12:44] And this person says

[12:47] that he or she I don't know if the

[12:50] person who wrote me is a man or woman.

[12:52] So, let let's just say he

[12:54] >> [snorts]

[12:54] >> uh he disagrees with this and wants this

[12:57] uh this person at at the um at the Zen

[13:00] Center to to go back to Zen. Uh and

[13:03] says, "Sometimes when I see people in

[13:05] difficulty, I wish they knew that if

[13:07] they sat down and let go of everything,

[13:09] things would be different. Must I really

[13:12] accept everything compassionately

[13:14] because if I awaken, everyone awakens?"

[13:16] How do you deal with these situations?

[13:19] And yeah, okay. a situation like that

[13:23] where you see somebody kind of going the

[13:26] a way that you think is wrong,

[13:29] it's difficult because in most cases if

[13:33] you kind of step up there and try to,

[13:36] you know, force your way into it and and

[13:38] you sound like a a kind of a Karen

[13:40] giving unasked for advice and it's it's

[13:44] not going to it's usually not going to

[13:46] land right unless you know the person

[13:48] very very well. uh you might be able to

[13:51] to sway them one way or the other, but

[13:53] for the most part, I don't even try. Uh

[13:56] it it reminds me of a guy who many years

[14:00] ago used to attend the Zen Center I had

[14:02] in Los Angeles and seemed pretty

[14:05] enthusiastic about everything. But one

[14:06] day he announced he was done with Zen

[14:08] and he was going to join transcendental

[14:10] meditation. Uh, and I think it worked

[14:12] out for him pretty well because

[14:14] transcendental meditation is very sort

[14:16] of clubby and it sort of is a good way

[14:20] to make connections because there's a

[14:22] lot of famous people in there,

[14:24] especially people in the entertainment

[14:25] business. And I think this guy, this guy

[14:28] was a filmmaker and I think he was able

[14:30] to get his film making career going a

[14:32] little bit better because he was in TM

[14:34] where he could make the connections.

[14:37] But, uh, I felt like, oh, you're not

[14:39] really, uh,

[14:41] I I have mixed feelings about TM. I

[14:43] don't think it's the worst thing in the

[14:45] world, but I feel like Zen is better. If

[14:47] I didn't feel like Zen is better, I'd be

[14:49] a TM teacher instead of a Zen teacher,

[14:51] you know. So, that that, you know, so

[14:53] take that as you will. But trying to

[14:57] manipulate what somebody else is doing

[15:00] is usually a losing game. And the most

[15:05] for the most part the best you can do is

[15:07] just let it go and let them figure out

[15:10] for themselves what it is they want to

[15:12] do just like you have to figure out for

[15:14] yourself what you want to do. And you

[15:17] can give people advice and that's fine.

[15:19] A lot of people ask a kind of related

[15:21] question about how to get their friends

[15:23] and family into Zen because they think

[15:25] it would be great for for my

[15:26] sister-in-law or it' be great for my my

[15:29] mother or my brother or my sister or

[15:30] whatever it is.

[15:32] And I always say the same thing like

[15:35] don't if you've got your own practice,

[15:37] keep doing your own practice and that

[15:39] practice if it has benefits will show

[15:42] itself and it doesn't need you to kind

[15:46] of hit people over the head. I'll give

[15:49] you a good example. Uh my wife uh she

[15:52] doesn't she's not a Zen practitioner.

[15:54] She came to a couple of retreats I did

[15:57] and said she liked it. And I don't know,

[16:01] maybe two or three times in our years

[16:05] together. It's been over 10 years that

[16:07] we've been together. Not married 10

[16:08] years, but we've been uh together for

[16:10] about that long or 12 years or gosh.

[16:13] Anyway, I'm not going to try to do the

[16:14] math right now. Basically hasn't sat

[16:17] zen. She's sat zen one or two times

[16:18] since then, you know, since we've been

[16:20] together. And the other day she started

[16:22] asking me cuz she's having some

[16:24] difficulty at work like uh should I

[16:25] start practicing Zen? And this is the

[16:28] person I'm closest to in the world. And

[16:31] I said, "Well, you know, if you feel

[16:33] like it, you can join me. You know, when

[16:35] I do it, I do it every morning and every

[16:37] evening and I' I'd be happy to have you

[16:39] join me and I'd be happy to tell you

[16:41] whatever you want to know about the

[16:43] practice and about doing it." And she

[16:46] said, "Fine." And that was like a week

[16:48] ago and she hasn't practiced any zazen

[16:51] since then. So, you know, maybe she'll

[16:53] come around. I don't know. Sometimes I

[16:56] think people don't need it. Not this is

[16:59] a hard one to say. I I think everybody

[17:01] could benefit from Zen practice. But on

[17:05] the other hand, there are people who

[17:07] have their own thing and if they're

[17:09] doing their own thing and it's working

[17:11] for them, I don't want to try to force

[17:13] my way onto them. So, you know, I've

[17:16] brought up the example of my

[17:17] mother-in-law, my wife's mom, and she is

[17:20] very zen without ever having practiced

[17:23] Zen at all. And I I think she's doing

[17:26] great. She's Catholic, but she's kind of

[17:28] funny about her Catholicism. She's very

[17:30] sort of open to anything, you know,

[17:33] about about the Catholicism, but she was

[17:35] raised Catholic and that's the way she

[17:37] knows and and she does it that way and

[17:40] it works fine for her. So, I don't feel

[17:43] like I want to mess with that if that's

[17:46] working for her. But if she came to me

[17:49] wanting Zazen instruction, she could

[17:50] have zazin instruction. There's a a kind

[17:53] of rule of thumb. Somebody asked me

[17:55] about this and they said they

[17:58] misinterpreted what I said as saying

[18:00] that you shouldn't talk about Zen unless

[18:02] you're compelled to do so. The the rule

[18:05] of thumb is don't answer a question

[18:07] about Zen or Buddhism. You know, it

[18:09] depends on which version you're

[18:11] listening to. Unless the person who is

[18:13] asking you about it asks you three

[18:15] times. I'm doing the European style

[18:17] three there. So, I don't take that

[18:20] literally. I don't literally wait for

[18:22] somebody to ask me three times about Zen

[18:25] before I tell them about it. But I do

[18:28] try to assess the question and see if

[18:30] the person is serious about the question

[18:33] and really wants to know. And if they

[18:36] really want to know and I feel there's a

[18:38] sincerity there, I'll tell them

[18:39] everything. But if I don't feel like

[18:41] they really want to know, then I'm kind

[18:43] of like whatever. Like there was a a

[18:45] discussion at work when I was working at

[18:47] Subarai Productions in Japan where my

[18:49] boss just I don't know why, but one day

[18:51] he spontaneously asked me if do you

[18:53] believe in reincarnation?

[18:55] And you could look at some of my videos

[18:58] about that subject. I've been ca I've

[19:00] been chastised by certain Buddhists for

[19:04] not being enough of a believer in

[19:06] reincarnation. So I have kind of mixed

[19:08] feelings about reincarnation. I think a

[19:10] lot of people in the Zen stream of

[19:12] Buddhism have that. Most of us I would

[19:15] say generally sort of believe in it but

[19:17] we're kind of uh what a dining category

[19:21] said. He said something about he

[19:22] believes in reincarnation but he's not

[19:24] attached to that belief. And that's kind

[19:26] of how I feel about it. I sort of

[19:27] believe in it, but I'm like not like. So

[19:30] [snorts] anyway, they didn't want an

[19:32] answer like that. My boss didn't want he

[19:34] wanted a yes or no. You know, I don't

[19:36] know where he wanted to go with the

[19:38] discussion, but that, you know, it

[19:39] wasn't it wasn't a serious question. And

[19:42] so that's the kind of thing where it's

[19:44] not so useful to try to preach to

[19:47] somebody. We're very against

[19:49] procilitizing.

[19:50] Buddhism is one of the missionary

[19:52] religions in that it actively tries to

[19:55] draw people into it. So it it's not like

[19:58] Judaism which is sort of insular or some

[20:00] there must be other religions like that

[20:02] and and you have to be born into it. I

[20:04] know it's complicated with Judaism. I

[20:06] have Jewish family members so I know

[20:08] about this but I know basically that's

[20:09] it. Buddhism isn't like that. Buddhism

[20:11] tries to draw people in but in the Zen

[20:13] form of Buddhism we don't try that hard.

[20:15] You know, people often complain about

[20:17] Zen centers being cold and unwelcoming

[20:20] and they should go to Asia in the

[20:23] especially in the past where the way you

[20:25] entered a Zen monastery was you had to

[20:27] go knock on the door and they would tell

[20:29] you to go away and you knock on the door

[20:31] again and they'd tell you to go away and

[20:33] then they'd make you sit on the doorstep

[20:34] for five or six days in the snow and the

[20:38] rain to prove that you're sincere and if

[20:40] you stayed long enough they would let

[20:42] you in and then the first thing they

[20:43] would make you do is a 7-day day hell uh

[20:46] thing called tongario where you you sit

[20:50] continuously for the entire week. You

[20:52] don't even get a break. Uh and then if

[20:54] you proved you were sincere enough, then

[20:56] you were allowed in. So that's kind of

[20:57] the Zen way. Yeah, we're trying to draw

[20:59] you in, but we're not trying that hard.

[21:01] We're not like, "Welcome, hello, have

[21:03] the have some ice cream. Uh let's talk

[21:05] about Buddha." It's not like that. So

[21:08] yeah. So I don't know if I answered

[21:10] either of those questions very well, but

[21:12] I tried. So, I hope you enjoyed that.

[21:15] All right. If you want to donate to me

[21:17] answering more questions like this, you

[21:19] can go to the URL that you're about to

[21:20] see on the screen below or you're about

[21:22] to hear if you're listening to the audio

[21:24] podcast version, and that is

[21:25] hardcorezen.info/donate.

[21:29] Once again, hardcorezen.info/donate.

[21:33] That's where you will find links to my

[21:35] PayPal and Patreon accounts. Those are

[21:37] my only way of making a living right

[21:38] now, and I appreciate your support. But

[21:40] as always, you don't got to support me

[21:41] if you don't want to support me. All

[21:43] right. Uh, a friend of mine was asking

[21:45] me, do I play these whole songs that I

[21:48] do in the videos? Uh, or do I just learn

[21:50] the part in the video? Well, sometimes I

[21:52] just learn the part that I want for the

[21:54] video and sometimes I learn the song.

[21:55] Today I learned the whole song. So,

[21:57] after my Ziggy cameo, I'll put a little

[21:59] I'll put the whole song just to prove I

[22:01] did it in case you're interested in

[22:02] watching it. All right, we will see you

[22:04] again. Have a good time all the time.

[22:06] We'll see you later. Bye,

[22:09] Ziggy in a sunbeam. I know. I know it's

[22:13] serious. We got woke up, didn't we,

[22:15] Ziggy, by that person making all that

[22:18] noise outside last night in the middle

[22:19] of the night, huh?

[22:21] All right, I'm going to let you enjoy

[22:23] your nap because you need one. So do I.

[22:26] See you later, Ziggy. Bye.

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Frequently Asked Questions

Zen practice isn't about programming yourself to feel good about yourself. Instead, it's about seeing yourself clearly through meditation and noticing patterns without harshness. Over time, this clarity itself becomes a form of compassion—not sentiment, but a natural response to suffering. The practice works not by making you believe you're worthy, but by showing you that the story of being inferior is just a story.
No. In true compassionate action, there's no separation between helping yourself and helping others—they arise together. You can't control what thoughts appear in your mind while you're helping someone. If thoughts about merit or approval arise, that doesn't cancel out the actual help you're giving. The Zen teaching of 'emptiness of the three wheels' suggests that the giver, receiver, and gift are not separate, so both benefit is natural and necessary.
Spontaneous compassion arises naturally when you encounter a situation that needs help—like adjusting a pillow in the night without thinking about it. While deliberate volunteer work is valuable, the Buddhist approach emphasizes responding to what's directly in front of you. Don't ignore small acts of kindness like treating a grocery clerk well, which often matter more than grand causes.
Early Buddhist texts do caution against performing good acts purely for the sake of accumulating karma or future reward. However, you can't control your thoughts while helping others. What matters is that the help happens. Even if you have mixed motivations—wanting approval and wanting to help—the compassionate action is still real and beneficial.
The false choice between helping others and helping yourself dissolves when you understand that genuine compassion isn't separate. Dogen teaches that even working a job for a paycheck is originally dana (free giving). The reward doesn't contradict the gift. Similarly, when you help someone and feel good or receive approval, both things are happening at once. There's no balance to strike—just presence in what needs to be done.
Many people get caught in trying to be a 'good person' as a project, which creates a performative feeling. The antidote is to stop evaluating your motivations. Zen practice teaches you to notice thoughts about yourself without believing them. When you stop needing to approve of yourself or prove something through your actions, what remains is simpler and more genuine.

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