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[0:00] If you are hurdler, you don't [music]
[0:02] look at obstacles the same way. It's
[0:06] just another opportunity to jump higher.
[0:09] Everything changed once I realized when
[0:12] they're saying no, they're just saying I
[0:15] didn't do a sufficient enough job. So my
[0:18] thing to God is here's my situation.
[0:21] Show me my purpose.
[0:23] >> One of the most iconic comedians and
[0:25] Emmy winner, the one and only Katt
[0:27] Williams.
[0:27] >> You were perfectly made by a perfect
[0:31] [music] God who also created a perfect
[0:35] universe for you [music] to exist in. He
[0:39] gave me something that I already loved.
[0:42] Like I already loved to laugh.
[0:45] When he gave me the chance to be
[0:46] involved in comedy, okay, well, all I
[0:49] would like to do is have a real
[0:53] connection with the people. Yeah, it is
[0:55] always darkest
[0:57] before the dawn, but it's not infinite.
[1:00] It can only get so dark before the light
[1:02] has to show up. Now is the time.
[1:06] >> I don't know if people ask you these
[1:07] questions, Katt.
[1:08] >> Never in life. Never.
[1:09] >> know if they do or I don't know if
[1:10] >> Never in life. Only at the school of
[1:12] greatness.
[1:13] Um
[1:15] >> We have a few things in common. I was
[1:17] telling you beforehand, both born and
[1:20] raised in Ohio.
[1:21] >> Let's go.
[1:22] >> an Ohio Dayton guy, right, for a while?
[1:24] Cincinnati, Dayton. I grew up in
[1:26] >> To this day.
[1:27] >> a small town of Delaware, Ohio. I don't
[1:29] know if
[1:30] >> Come on, Delaware.
[1:31] >> I don't know if you ever knew I ever
[1:32] went through that small town.
[1:33] >> You're the most famous person.
[1:35] >> From Delaware, Ohio.
[1:36] >> Delaware, Ohio.
[1:37] >> 20,000 people, right?
[1:38] >> You did it.
[1:39] >> And another thing is we both left home,
[1:42] if I'm correct, at 13.
[1:44] >> Correct.
[1:45] >> And for me, I left home because I didn't
[1:48] feel emotionally safe in the environment
[1:50] that I was in. I begged my parents to
[1:52] send me away.
[1:53] >> Okay.
[1:53] >> And it was a big turning point in my
[1:56] life by leaving.
[1:57] >> Mhm.
[1:58] And I'm curious, why did you leave home
[2:00] at 13? And what was the big takeaway you
[2:04] gained from that experience?
[2:06] >> If I was 6'4, I would have left at 9.
[2:09] >> [laughter]
[2:12] >> I was trying to wait on my growth spurt.
[2:15] It just never came.
[2:16] >> [laughter]
[2:17] >> Um
[2:20] >> Well, that's great. Both from Ohio.
[2:23] Both left early.
[2:24] >> What was the reason why you left and the
[2:26] biggest thing that you learned from
[2:28] leaving home at 13?
[2:31] >> It wasn't something that I would um
[2:35] suggest to others. And
[2:37] when you
[2:39] read it in the book, it's a I don't
[2:41] glamorize it. It was a terrible
[2:43] situation. It was a horrible decision
[2:46] for anybody else to make. Um
[2:50] there aren't any 13-year-olds that are
[2:54] qualified to do it. Um
[2:57] On the other hand, I had a religious
[3:00] background and Jesus left home when he
[3:03] was 13. And uh
[3:06] the Jewish culture teaches that you're a
[3:08] man at 13. And so, I had enough
[3:12] precedents in my own
[3:14] study
[3:16] to understand that
[3:19] if things were really as bad as I was
[3:22] making them out to be, I had every right
[3:26] to change it.
[3:28] And that um
[3:31] if I continued to show up to a
[3:34] circumstance I didn't agree with.
[3:38] So, I was young enough to make a dumb
[3:40] mistake, but I was also young enough to
[3:44] see if this works. And uh
[3:48] yeah, I believed in God, so I had this
[3:50] false sense of he let me fail. Really at
[3:54] 13?
[3:56] Yeah. Yeah, my whole life.
[3:58] >> Wow.
[3:58] >> Yeah, but
[4:00] that's one of the best things about the
[4:02] book is that even if you're an atheist,
[4:05] reading the book may not make you
[4:08] believe in God, but you will um
[4:12] believe in the belief in God.
[4:14] >> Mhm.
[4:16] >> And it's been proven that that's a
[4:19] thing, you know?
[4:21] So,
[4:22] uh
[4:23] yeah, even then I didn't really
[4:27] look at it as a negative. I looked on it
[4:30] as um
[4:31] getting a head start.
[4:33] >> I've heard you say before that you're
[4:34] favored by God.
[4:36] And a lot of things don't really kind of
[4:37] stress you out or worry you out because
[4:39] you are favored by God. Did you always
[4:41] believe that, or is that something more
[4:43] later in your life that you started to
[4:44] believe?
[4:46] >> Well, I believe that you could be.
[4:48] >> Mhm.
[4:49] >> And I was just trying to put myself in a
[4:51] position where if it was possible
[4:54] that I would be qualified for it, you
[4:57] know?
[4:58] And um
[5:00] I had just done so much reading.
[5:03] And uh
[5:05] that's how all books go, mhm. You know?
[5:07] That's part of a good story
[5:10] is that
[5:12] we're able to see
[5:14] the trials and tribulations that this
[5:16] person has to go through
[5:18] and how
[5:20] no matter how scared you are in the
[5:22] middle of the book,
[5:24] by the end of the book
[5:26] it's going to be worth it.
[5:27] >> Mhm.
[5:28] >> Um
[5:30] it gets better. Um
[5:33] things work out that once looked dark,
[5:37] and you start understanding that
[5:40] yeah, it is always darkest
[5:42] before the dawn. Right? That's part of
[5:45] how it goes. It's darker and darker and
[5:47] darker."
[5:48] But, it's not infinite.
[5:50] It can only get so dark before the light
[5:53] has to show up. It's in all the books.
[5:55] >> Mhm.
[5:56] >> And so,
[5:57] >> But, how do you how do you how do you
[5:58] have faith or trust that
[6:00] you're going to be taken care of
[6:01] spiritually, physically, emotionally at
[6:04] some point in the future
[6:06] when you're going through a very dark
[6:07] time?
[6:09] >> I never read a book where it didn't
[6:10] work.
[6:13] I didn't read the story of um
[6:17] the person who
[6:20] didn't work the hardest and
[6:23] being the most successful.
[6:26] I didn't.
[6:27] I might have believed that had I read
[6:29] those stories, but those aren't the
[6:31] stories
[6:32] that I read. The stories that I read um
[6:36] were very specific that
[6:39] you don't know
[6:41] who you are.
[6:42] >> Mhm.
[6:43] >> That's all. Everybody else knows already
[6:46] who you are. You You don't know. And as
[6:49] the story progresses, you find out who
[6:52] you've been the entire time.
[6:55] And it doesn't matter if the story is
[6:58] Spider-Man or Superman or
[7:01] I don't ever hear that.
[7:03] That's the story. The story is that um
[7:07] you're already enough. It's It's
[7:10] trying to do it as fast as you can
[7:13] figure out.
[7:14] >> Did you ever believe you weren't enough
[7:16] or have doubts about your
[7:17] >> I never I never thought that I needed to
[7:20] be
[7:22] more to be enough. And
[7:25] people were put in my life that just
[7:29] reinforced that. Like, I met
[7:32] Prince young enough that
[7:35] right in the time of my life when I was
[7:37] going to be worried about my size,
[7:40] um
[7:42] I met somebody
[7:43] shorter than me that was already a
[7:45] millionaire.
[7:46] >> Was he shorter than Prince?
[7:47] >> Yeah, yeah.
[7:48] >> Cuz you were what, 12 when you met him?
[7:50] >> Mhm.
[7:51] Yeah, but I was already 5' 5" and he was
[7:53] already 5' 3".
[7:54] >> You met him in Ohio, too, right?
[7:56] >> Mhm.
[7:56] >> That's crazy. So you
[7:58] >> So you met him in Dayton, Prince.
[7:59] >> Yes.
[7:59] >> When you were 12.
[8:00] >> Yeah.
[8:00] >> And what did meeting him when he was
[8:02] successful and a millionaire teach you
[8:04] about possibilities?
[8:06] >> Um
[8:07] >> [sighs and gasps]
[8:08] >> up until that point, I was assuming that
[8:12] you know, certain things were going to
[8:13] happen. Of course, I'm going to I'm not
[8:15] going to stay this size forever.
[8:16] >> Mhm.
[8:17] >> Like this growth spurt is almost a
[8:19] guaranteed thing. It happens to
[8:20] everybody.
[8:21] >> 14, 16, it's coming to me.
[8:22] >> So, I'm going to I'm going to be 5' 5"
[8:24] and I'm going to wake up
[8:26] different, you know? But meeting Prince
[8:28] made me come to grips with
[8:31] oh, it may never come.
[8:32] >> Mhm.
[8:33] >> This may be what I am
[8:35] all the way through.
[8:38] Oh, that's all right, I guess.
[8:40] And you got this example of this guy
[8:43] who's uh doing it just fine.
[8:45] >> He figured it out, yeah.
[8:46] >> Right. So, things like that would happen
[8:49] to where I didn't
[8:52] like I was never fully counting on me. I
[8:55] was counting on
[8:57] my portion. I I knew I had to do my
[9:00] portion, right? But
[9:02] I'm counting on the whole entity to pull
[9:04] me through.
[9:05] >> Really?
[9:06] >> Yeah, the whole time.
[9:07] >> So, did you have like a Was this a daily
[9:09] thought process where you were just
[9:11] like, "Okay, I'm going to figure out
[9:12] what I want, you know, whether it be
[9:14] getting into the comedy scene
[9:17] and I'm going to go pursue this path and
[9:19] I'm going to put in my effort and my
[9:20] part,
[9:22] but I know God's going to carry me
[9:23] through and create the opportunities
[9:25] that are meant for me." Was this
[9:27] something you were thinking or feeling
[9:29] or was it a different approach?
[9:31] >> Financially, I was in such a poor
[9:33] position that I was willing to do
[9:35] whatever it took uh
[9:39] to live a good lifestyle and I knew that
[9:43] I would
[9:45] bend my morals more than I would like
[9:48] otherwise. And so
[9:51] I was asking him to put me in a position
[9:54] where I didn't have to worry about any
[9:57] of that and that it would meet my
[9:59] personal criteria for
[10:02] something that I could do well at. So
[10:06] um I'm very
[10:08] specific in what I'm asking for
[10:12] so that I don't have to question whether
[10:15] something is God or whether something is
[10:18] chance
[10:20] or happenstance because I've asked
[10:23] specifically
[10:25] for something that I did not have and
[10:28] had no access to.
[10:30] And if I privately have that
[10:32] conversation
[10:34] and then 2 weeks later it materializes
[10:38] I'm not going to hesitate from letting
[10:40] people know that that's how it happened.
[10:42] >> Wow.
[10:44] >> Yeah.
[10:44] >> Was there ever a time where you feel
[10:45] like you were working
[10:48] or going about life against your morals
[10:50] or against what God what you felt like
[10:52] God wanted for you
[10:54] to make money or to create opportunities
[10:56] or just a season that you were doing
[10:58] that?
[10:59] >> I wasn't sure if I had ever been on the
[11:02] right path exactly.
[11:06] But I had already read the prodigal son
[11:09] story.
[11:10] So I understood that
[11:14] um
[11:16] God doesn't have unrealistic
[11:18] expectations of me and uh
[11:22] I just felt like there was something out
[11:23] there for me and that if I came across
[11:26] it I would know.
[11:28] And that if it was the right path that
[11:31] he would make certain things happen to
[11:33] let me know
[11:35] this is the path to continue on.
[11:37] >> Is that signs or synchronicities or
[11:40] signals of like this is the right path
[11:42] or would it just be a knowing that hey,
[11:44] you're supposed to go through this door
[11:46] or this opportunity or how would you
[11:47] know?
[11:49] >> Well, because I I get introduced to drug
[11:52] dealing because it's a profitable thing.
[11:55] You can take this that cost $100 and you
[11:58] can make $700 off of that. What? Oh,
[12:01] well.
[12:03] >> Yeah, it's easy.
[12:04] >> need to do that very long. I just need
[12:05] to do that for a little bit. I'll be in
[12:07] an entirely different situation and I
[12:09] can get out of here.
[12:11] But I don't want to live a life of
[12:13] crime. Like that's not
[12:15] my actual spirit. That's not what type
[12:18] of person I am.
[12:20] So, my thing to God is
[12:24] here's my situation.
[12:26] You're already looking at it. You see
[12:28] that I got a lot of opportunities to
[12:31] make money out here.
[12:33] Um what I need is something that I can
[12:37] do without any of that.
[12:40] And
[12:41] be able to
[12:43] get what I need out of life through
[12:46] this.
[12:47] Show me my purpose
[12:50] if it's not going to be any any of this
[12:52] because I'm not going to be in a bad
[12:55] situation. I'm not going to be out here
[12:57] without
[12:59] um as many opportunities as there are
[13:02] for me to get it. I'm going to be trying
[13:04] to get it. But if you'll show me
[13:06] something that I can do and have
[13:09] the
[13:11] a good guy.
[13:13] I'd love it.
[13:13] >> Yeah.
[13:14] >> And I'll show you my appreciation and
[13:16] how hard I go for it.
[13:17] >> Really? So, how old were you
[13:19] >> That's what he gave me.
[13:20] >> How old were you when that kind of came
[13:22] to you? You feel like
[13:23] >> No, I
[13:24] I'm I'm not asking for that until these
[13:28] this situation. So, I guess I was
[13:31] 20. Wow.
[13:34] >> And when you when it came to you the
[13:35] opportunities then,
[13:37] how did you show your appreciation for
[13:38] God? Was it through your work ethic? Was
[13:40] it through
[13:41] generosity? Was it through how
[13:44] you wanted to shine your light and your
[13:45] spirit? How were you thinking about
[13:47] that?
[13:48] >> Well, first of all, I he gave me
[13:50] something that I already loved. Like, I
[13:53] already loved to laugh.
[13:56] That was
[13:57] a great thing in my life is just being
[13:59] able to laugh. And so, I loved comedy
[14:02] already. So, when he gave me the chance
[14:05] to be involved in comedy, okay, well,
[14:08] all I would like to do is
[14:11] I would like to do stand-up and I would
[14:13] like to do a brand of stand-up
[14:16] where I can have a real connection with
[14:19] the people and we can talk about all the
[14:22] topics that there are to discuss and um
[14:27] and hopefully it'll give me an
[14:28] opportunity
[14:30] that if I know something new or if I
[14:33] learn something new, that I'll be able
[14:36] to
[14:37] get that to as many people as possible.
[14:41] >> you know.
[14:42] >> Yeah, and so
[14:43] if any of this is true,
[14:46] then I can't be a mediocre comedian.
[14:50] >> Mhm. You have to be exceptional.
[14:51] >> I I or I have to stink.
[14:54] >> Right.
[14:54] >> I I have to be one of the worst
[14:57] comedians
[14:58] >> or one of the greatest.
[14:59] >> Or I got to
[15:01] I got to have something.
[15:03] >> Wow.
[15:04] Yeah, I was telling you I watched your
[15:06] your recent special on Netflix, which is
[15:07] hilarious. We were laughing out loud on
[15:09] a lot of the different things. Uh you
[15:11] talk about it you know, in your special,
[15:14] but also in your book
[15:16] um about you going in to get information
[15:20] and and wanting to share it with others
[15:22] of what you're learning about every
[15:23] situation, about comedy, about life,
[15:26] about the industries, things like that.
[15:28] You know, you've been the voice of truth
[15:30] in a lot of ways, specifically in the
[15:31] last few years, even more so.
[15:33] What is being the voice of truth cost
[15:36] you in your life? And
[15:38] would you ever give that up?
[15:40] >> As far as what it cost you, there's
[15:42] going to be
[15:43] bad
[15:45] um
[15:47] there's going to be unfavorable reaction
[15:51] to telling the truth. Anybody that is
[15:54] making
[15:56] um a living off of the deception that
[15:59] you're exposing.
[16:01] Uh
[16:02] but
[16:03] it's very rewarding.
[16:05] >> Really? And I guess how do you protect
[16:07] your spirit or your soul or your energy
[16:11] when you're sharing
[16:13] you're being a truth-teller
[16:15] and you know there's going to be some
[16:17] potential
[16:18] attacks or
[16:20] people upset or people questioning you
[16:22] or
[16:23] like how do you protect your own
[16:25] energy from that space?
[16:28] >> I don't mix my energy and my
[16:31] soul is never in question in
[16:35] this this is
[16:38] what I do for a living. I'm a surgeon,
[16:41] so I
[16:44] dissect
[16:45] I remove what needs to be removed
[16:50] cleanse the area
[16:52] sew it back up. That's the end of it. Um
[16:55] this is part of my job and this is
[16:59] the best part of the job. And it only
[17:03] works if you're telling the truth.
[17:06] It only works if
[17:08] um
[17:09] if you get a chance to expose something
[17:12] that a group of people are actively
[17:15] trying to
[17:17] Yeah, it all it only
[17:19] You can immediately tell if you've hit
[17:22] that nerve and if your job is to hit the
[17:25] nerve, then you
[17:27] you're going to notice, but yeah, very
[17:29] rewarding because um
[17:32] I was willing to do this if there was no
[17:34] appetite for it. So, I'm saying to find
[17:37] out that there's a whole
[17:39] segment of the population that
[17:42] absolutely wants to know the truth about
[17:45] everything and they want to know
[17:48] who's telling what lie and um you know
[17:53] like
[17:55] It's very rewarding.
[17:56] >> Wow.
[17:57] >> Very rewarding.
[17:58] >> I mean, what was the biggest reward you
[18:00] gained from continuing to open up then
[18:02] for yourself?
[18:06] Is it the peace you have? Is it knowing
[18:07] you're helping others? Is it
[18:10] >> No, the people that don't like me avoid
[18:13] me.
[18:14] >> That's the greatest reward
[18:15] >> And and the
[18:18] level of people that want to engage with
[18:21] me
[18:23] are the best people in the world.
[18:26] >> So, when some of the world calls you
[18:28] crazy, then who's in your corner?
[18:31] Who who who are the people that are in
[18:33] your corners? Are the people that love
[18:35] the truth or
[18:36] >> Knowing yourself
[18:38] is helpful no matter
[18:41] what job you're doing. Yeah. If you're
[18:42] an athlete or artist,
[18:45] it doesn't really matter.
[18:47] Um
[18:48] You should be very very clear with
[18:51] yourself about what your strengths are
[18:54] and what your weaknesses are. And the
[18:57] closer you get to knowing that the more
[18:59] times you'll be able to access what it
[19:02] is you're trying to access
[19:05] out of yourself. So, um
[19:07] I'm not in any way
[19:10] like I can't I can't be peer pressured.
[19:13] They're like um
[19:16] Somebody
[19:18] calling me crazy doesn't
[19:20] >> Doesn't affect you or doesn't
[19:22] >> I'm smarter than the person saying it.
[19:24] Uh
[19:25] I If I don't know that why do I expect
[19:29] them to know?
[19:29] >> Sure.
[19:30] >> Right?
[19:30] >> Sure.
[19:30] >> And uh innovation and creativity
[19:35] can often be
[19:38] misidentified as crazy. And I understand
[19:41] that. You know, um
[19:44] I think that's why we came up with the
[19:45] word eccentric.
[19:47] >> Mhm.
[19:47] >> Uh
[19:48] because crazy is when it doesn't work.
[19:51] >> [laughter]
[19:52] >> Eccentric is when it's very successful.
[19:55] >> Yeah, you took a risk, you had courage
[19:56] to put something out there and it
[19:58] worked.
[19:59] >> Right.
[19:59] >> Right.
[20:00] >> Or maybe a lot of people wouldn't try
[20:01] that or something.
[20:02] >> All entrepreneurs
[20:04] >> Mhm.
[20:05] >> come to grips with this.
[20:06] >> Yeah.
[20:08] >> It's Yeah, nobody needs your
[20:09] involvement.
[20:11] They've got enough people selling
[20:13] hamburgers already.
[20:14] >> Yeah. Yeah.
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[21:15] greatest strengths and greatest
[21:16] weaknesses, what would you say at this
[21:17] season of your life is your greatest
[21:18] strength and one of your weaknesses
[21:21] maybe you're still working to improve or
[21:23] just aware of?
[21:25] >> I will be working on myself till the end
[21:28] and I'm imperfect. So, I have a
[21:31] humongous list.
[21:33] >> [laughter]
[21:33] >> Uh and it's taking me all all my life
[21:36] just to
[21:38] work through the Ten Commandments and
[21:40] try to nail down as much as I can and
[21:43] make adjustments and but what I what I
[21:46] found is
[21:47] you're never not rewarded for that work.
[21:52] It doesn't matter if the listener or
[21:54] viewer starts today.
[21:57] Like you're immediately going to see the
[22:00] results. Like it's it's better than the
[22:02] gym.
[22:03] Like the gym keeps going because it
[22:06] keeps working. Like if you keep going in
[22:09] there lifting
[22:11] you're going to get better looking
[22:14] and it's going to work even for you no
[22:16] matter where you're starting at and in
[22:18] life
[22:19] it's the same thing with working on
[22:21] yourself. Like um
[22:23] at some point you appreciate how many
[22:26] flaws you have
[22:28] because you realize
[22:31] if I fix two of these, I'm a whole
[22:34] different creature, you know? And and it
[22:37] always works. You always come out on the
[22:40] other side better. Like
[22:43] my thing now is
[22:45] uh my last lesson was uh patience, mhm,
[22:48] you know?
[22:49] And uh as painful as it is, you learn
[22:52] patience
[22:54] um by being disgruntled for long periods
[22:58] of time.
[22:59] >> Frustrated and angry and you're
[23:00] >> Just going just going where is the
[23:02] payoff?
[23:03] And yeah, you could be upset
[23:06] and uh
[23:08] let that go the that way, but um
[23:11] when you start looking at yourself like
[23:13] a farmer and understanding how crops go,
[23:16] you learn to understand how much of your
[23:18] time is just trusting the process. That
[23:21] little list doesn't have anything to do
[23:23] with you.
[23:24] You know, your job was to plant the
[23:26] seeds.
[23:28] Yeah, and it's going to be a long long
[23:30] time before you see the benefits of this
[23:33] and it's going to be
[23:36] Yeah.
[23:37] >> What's a seed that you planted 10, 15,
[23:39] 20 years ago that you're just now seeing
[23:41] the fruits of?
[23:42] >> I don't really know how to answer that
[23:44] because I planted all the seeds I came
[23:48] across.
[23:49] Now, part of that is probably because of
[23:52] how deficient I was, you know.
[23:54] >> You're a lot of everything. Yeah, yeah.
[23:55] >> Well, I'm saying everything that I ever
[23:58] learned
[24:00] from a person or from a book or
[24:03] from any source,
[24:05] the first thing I did was put it into
[24:08] practice in my life so that I could
[24:11] verify that it was real, you know? So,
[24:15] having done that so many times, like
[24:20] I guess that's the part I enjoy the most
[24:22] is that very rarely
[24:25] do you plant a seed
[24:27] and nothing happens.
[24:29] >> It might just take time.
[24:30] >> There There's more of a chance that
[24:32] you'll forget where you planted the
[24:33] seed.
[24:34] >> Or when you planted it. Yeah, yeah.
[24:36] >> That seed is not going to do
[24:40] what it's supposed to do. And then it
[24:43] just
[24:44] I make sure our appreciation for God go
[24:47] up
[24:48] so much more because you understand
[24:51] what's behind things and
[24:54] yeah, every everything that you learn
[24:56] just for further reinforces. Mhm.
[25:00] Um
[25:00] what you were wondering
[25:02] I found.
[25:04] >> There's a great quote in your book on uh
[25:06] page 116
[25:09] uh of your new book called Nine Lives No
[25:12] Wives and 69 Concubines.
[25:14] Um the quote is learn to embrace what's
[25:17] meant for you because the universe gets
[25:19] real petty when you keep dodging your
[25:21] own blessings.
[25:23] How much do you think about gratitude
[25:25] and appreciation in your day-to-day life
[25:27] when the universe is bringing you a
[25:29] beautiful opportunity or also maybe a
[25:32] beautiful obstacle in your way?
[25:35] >> If you are hurdler
[25:38] you don't look at obstacles the same way
[25:41] than somebody else would. You know?
[25:46] So
[25:47] >> Interesting.
[25:48] >> I I have changed my frame of mind to the
[25:52] point where I don't
[25:55] I don't see the negative first. It's
[25:58] just almost impossible for me to do.
[26:01] Um
[26:02] So even with the hurdles and the
[26:07] things that pop up it's just another
[26:10] opportunity to
[26:12] jump higher.
[26:14] And that's the goal is that you're
[26:17] supposed to jump higher.
[26:19] And um it keeps you from being
[26:21] lackadaisical. It keeps you from being
[26:24] happy with where you are
[26:27] when you know that
[26:29] you can do better.
[26:31] You know? And so
[26:33] I appreciate that.
[26:34] >> Did you ever have a scarcity or poverty
[26:37] mindset or did you always have a kind of
[26:39] an abundance growth mindset approach to
[26:42] life?
[26:43] >> As a proud American
[26:45] um
[26:46] when you're young
[26:49] well, let me just speak for me.
[26:50] I was interested in finding out why are
[26:54] we the greatest country in the world?
[26:57] What what what makes us so different
[26:59] from other
[27:00] cultures? Like why why are we so
[27:02] steadfast on that? What what are the
[27:06] things and um
[27:08] one of the greatest things about being
[27:11] an American is
[27:13] you really believe in this country that
[27:17] you can make
[27:20] tomorrow better than today was and that
[27:25] whoever outworks the other guy, that's
[27:29] who wins.
[27:30] And um that was one of my first lessons
[27:35] in this country is that it seemed to me
[27:38] that in every situation
[27:41] the hardest worker wins.
[27:44] Both great guys, both great teams,
[27:48] both great situations, but
[27:51] if it's ever here and here,
[27:54] it's uh who worked
[27:57] who's the hardest worker.
[27:59] Yeah, and so and my whole life it seemed
[28:02] I was selling something. Whether it was
[28:04] religion or candy or
[28:07] books and magazines. I I I because it
[28:10] was something that um always worked,
[28:13] never failed.
[28:15] You could get something at this price
[28:17] and you could get a better price for it
[28:20] if you were willing to
[28:22] get it out there and um
[28:25] >> Weren't you a door-to-door salesman for
[28:26] a while, too? And the top seller in the
[28:28] company or in the region or
[28:29] >> I had the ability to
[28:32] um
[28:32] not look at the negative parts of
[28:34] things.
[28:36] And and um
[28:37] by removing the negative out of
[28:39] situations, it just makes them clearer,
[28:41] right? So, I found out that sales is a
[28:45] numbers game.
[28:47] And so that would mean
[28:49] you have to get told no
[28:52] 300 times to get 30 yeses.
[28:55] >> Wow.
[28:56] Well, hey, just keep showing up then.
[28:58] >> Are you sure?
[29:00] Because I really just want to know if
[29:01] that's the case. Because I'm not
[29:03] bothered by no's. I'm especially not
[29:05] bothered by no's if that's what I
[29:07] collect for a living.
[29:09] >> Mhm.
[29:09] >> All I know is
[29:12] does 900
[29:14] no's equal 90 yeses?
[29:17] Cuz I'm going for 90.
[29:19] >> Mhm.
[29:20] >> You know?
[29:21] >> How many houses to go to?
[29:23] I'll show up.
[29:24] >> No, no, no. I'm going to all of the
[29:25] houses.
[29:26] >> Right, right. Yeah.
[29:27] >> Because I don't I don't make a
[29:29] distinction.
[29:30] >> Uh-huh.
[29:30] >> I need to hit 900 houses.
[29:34] I'm trusting 90 and above.
[29:37] >> Oh.
[29:38] What was the greatest lesson that
[29:39] door-to-door sales taught you about life
[29:41] for yourself?
[29:42] >> That.
[29:44] Mhm.
[29:45] That. And
[29:46] >> cuz a lot of people get discouraged when
[29:47] they hear one no or they fail once or it
[29:49] doesn't work out or whatever. They go on
[29:52] stage and no one claps for them or
[29:54] didn't work and then they kind of stop.
[29:57] So did this teach you to just keep going
[29:59] until you got the yeses?
[30:01] >> No. It taught me how much I
[30:04] appreciate the yeses.
[30:06] >> Uh You know?
[30:11] >> It made the yeses so much
[30:12] >> Oh, yeah.
[30:13] >> more
[30:15] meaningful.
[30:15] >> Mhm.
[30:16] >> Yes, that. So
[30:19] then you don't look at rejection the
[30:21] same.
[30:21] >> Mhm.
[30:22] >> You know? You'll kind of look at it with
[30:24] a little bit of pity.
[30:27] You know?
[30:28] >> How did you not tie your self-worth
[30:30] to other people's no's or rejections or
[30:34] doors not opening for you when you
[30:35] wanted them to? How did you not tie your
[30:37] self-worth to that no at that moment?
[30:40] >> Because I already had my self-worth
[30:43] attached to a yes.
[30:44] >> Mhm. Even in times where you didn't feel
[30:46] the yeses were coming or they're
[30:48] didn't feel like
[30:49] >> I'm doing it wrong.
[30:50] >> Ah. How so?
[30:52] >> My Everything changed once I realized
[30:55] when they're saying no,
[30:58] they're just saying
[31:00] I didn't do a good enough job. Whatever
[31:02] I needed to say, I didn't say it.
[31:04] >> Mhm. So, it's feedback.
[31:06] >> However I should have been standing, I
[31:08] wasn't standing like that.
[31:09] >> Interesting.
[31:11] >> The look on my face when the lady opened
[31:14] the door,
[31:15] that should have been better. Because
[31:17] this is
[31:19] first impressions. And so, that in turn
[31:23] helped me in comedy.
[31:26] Because they're never wrong.
[31:28] >> The audience?
[31:29] >> The audience. The audience is never
[31:31] wrong.
[31:31] >> Interesting.
[31:32] >> They don't know how to be wrong.
[31:34] They're brought in for their opinion.
[31:37] Their opinion is absolute.
[31:39] >> Mhm.
[31:40] >> If it were funny, they would have
[31:42] laughed.
[31:43] >> Right.
[31:44] >> Right?
[31:45] >> if you thought it was funny and they
[31:46] didn't?
[31:47] >> I don't have an opinion. I only have
[31:49] their opinion.
[31:50] >> Interesting.
[31:51] >> I'm not
[31:53] counting on anything
[31:55] that hasn't happened already. So, I've
[31:58] I've done these jokes
[32:00] in a hundred cities before I shoot this
[32:03] special.
[32:03] >> Wow.
[32:04] >> So, what is it for me to be figuring
[32:06] out? I know it's funny cuz it's in
[32:09] there.
[32:09] >> Yeah. Yeah.
[32:10] You've already tested it.
[32:11] >> If there was any
[32:14] If it wasn't funny, I would have just
[32:15] took it out.
[32:16] >> Yeah.
[32:18] >> Only funny stuff stays there.
[32:20] >> Interesting. When you're trying
[32:22] something new on stage that you think
[32:24] this is really funny, like this is I'm
[32:26] going to get the laugh right away, and
[32:27] maybe it doesn't work in one area
[32:30] of the world, but then it works in
[32:31] another area, or maybe it just never
[32:33] works. Does it affect your self-belief
[32:36] in your creativity or your material cuz
[32:38] you thought it was funny and others
[32:40] didn't? Or how do you navigate that if
[32:42] you don't get the laugh?
[32:44] >> I'm not good enough to be able to take
[32:45] it for granted like that. Like um
[32:48] >> What do you mean?
[32:49] >> Like on any joke, I have to have laughed
[32:53] at it personally in order for it to make
[32:56] it to the paper.
[32:58] Right?
[33:00] So, the person I did consult already
[33:03] thought this was funny.
[33:05] If I can't figure out how to make it be
[33:08] funny to you,
[33:10] that's a me problem.
[33:12] And so, that's what I'm doing when I'm
[33:15] not on stage is I'm putting in the work
[33:17] >> Wow.
[33:18] >> to make sure those things don't happen.
[33:20] So, I'm going to tell this joke to
[33:23] myself 35 times in this mirror.
[33:27] >> Really?
[33:28] >> Until it gets funny to me.
[33:30] >> Really? It tells funny to you first.
[33:33] >> I can't afford to deliver it if it's not
[33:36] funny.
[33:36] >> Wow.
[33:37] >> So, the whole part where you, oh, you
[33:39] tell a joke and what if they don't
[33:41] laugh? I I would be horrified.
[33:44] >> Really?
[33:44] >> Because what have I been doing? I'm in
[33:46] charge of when the jokes come out.
[33:49] >> W- Wow.
[33:50] >> So, you know.
[33:51] >> So, you don't just think, oh, I got this
[33:53] idea. I'm going to go test it out on
[33:54] stage at this small little, you know,
[33:56] gig that I've got or I'm going to show
[33:57] up and just test material. Let's see if
[33:59] this works. Or you say, you never even
[34:02] do that. You say, I'm going to know this
[34:04] works in the mirror first, test it with
[34:06] someone else one-on-one before I bring
[34:09] it out to test it, I guess, on a stage.
[34:13] >> Yeah.
[34:13] >> Interesting. Cuz I I hear a lot of
[34:16] comedians say, oh, I'm just going to go
[34:17] try material out. Maybe it's a smaller
[34:19] audience or maybe it's not my main gig
[34:21] and it's I do a 10-minute set or
[34:23] something to test it instead of testing
[34:26] it on themselves first.
[34:28] >> The longer you go in this business, you
[34:30] start realizing a formula for
[34:33] everything.
[34:34] >> Mhm.
[34:35] >> And um your job is to keep nailing the
[34:38] formula, right? There are certain words
[34:41] that are funnier than other words. There
[34:44] are
[34:46] different cadences that are
[34:49] uh funnier than others.
[34:51] Um
[34:53] part of you being a writer
[34:57] is
[34:59] you you're the one with the wand in your
[35:01] hand, Mr. Magician. You see what I'm
[35:03] saying? Our job is to make the magic,
[35:06] you know? And so
[35:08] uh yeah, there's there's no
[35:11] opinion other than theirs, but I'm clear
[35:15] as to the conversation that I've been
[35:17] having with the audience.
[35:20] And I've kept having that same
[35:22] conversation just with different subject
[35:24] matter.
[35:25] >> Interesting.
[35:25] >> Yeah.
[35:27] >> When you go to different parts of the
[35:28] country, do you
[35:30] take into account that region of the
[35:32] country or the region of the world when
[35:34] you're touring
[35:36] on how you approach certain jokes or you
[35:38] approach your energy or way of being on
[35:41] stage?
[35:42] Or do you just say, "I'm going to be as
[35:44] consistent as who I am, how I want to
[35:46] sit do the do the material day in and
[35:49] day out, no matter what city, what
[35:51] country, what state?"
[35:54] Do you do you think about that or is
[35:55] that um not part of the process?
[35:58] >> For the majority of my stand-up career,
[36:01] um the first 15 minutes of my act was
[36:06] devoted to the place
[36:10] I was.
[36:11] >> The city.
[36:11] >> Right.
[36:12] >> Calling out certain the sports team or
[36:14] who's from there or
[36:15] >> I have a 45-minute set that I'm going to
[36:18] do, but the first 15 minutes
[36:22] is just going to be about
[36:24] this wonderful little spot you got here.
[36:26] >> Yeah, yeah.
[36:27] >> And um
[36:28] >> Come on, let's say it's Ohio or Atlanta,
[36:29] Georgia, South Florida, wherever we are,
[36:31] let's say talk about the people from
[36:33] here.
[36:34] >> Right, because there's something
[36:38] on the news that everybody's already
[36:40] discussing.
[36:42] And um
[36:44] I personally,
[36:45] if I've been there for 2 days, I've
[36:48] personally eaten here upwards of six
[36:51] times.
[36:52] >> Right.
[36:53] >> Right? And I went different places. I
[36:56] saw different things and and I'm able to
[36:58] have a
[37:00] um
[37:01] a crowd work type of conversation
[37:04] without the crowd.
[37:06] >> Yeah.
[37:07] >> So, yeah, that's the greatest thing
[37:09] about travel.
[37:11] Let's just see
[37:12] what the differences are. And you know,
[37:14] noticing the commonalities and you know,
[37:17] that's what makes travel already great.
[37:19] So, yeah, it's one of the best parts of
[37:21] the job.
[37:22] >> When you're doing a special though, it's
[37:24] it's I guess for a much broader
[37:25] audience. It's not for a city, you know,
[37:28] where you can connect with the locals
[37:30] and give some inside jokes about, you
[37:32] know, the restaurants and the the people
[37:34] from there or if they have a certain
[37:37] you know, accent or whatever it might
[37:39] be.
[37:39] Um
[37:40] how do you approach it knowing this is
[37:42] going to the world, but I'm also
[37:44] speaking to
[37:45] this city community
[37:48] so that it lands both locally and
[37:50] globally on the special.
[37:52] >> Right. Well, I've never even
[37:55] looked at it that way because I'm I'm
[37:58] looking
[37:59] I'm looking at at it from another
[38:01] direction. So, I am trying to I'm trying
[38:05] to write something that
[38:07] 9 months from now
[38:10] the stories that I have chosen to tell
[38:13] still have legs 9 months later.
[38:15] >> relevant, yeah.
[38:17] >> They uh
[38:18] >> Evergreen, yeah.
[38:19] >> That this isn't a joke that they only
[38:23] get up north. This isn't just a Bible
[38:26] Belt joke. This isn't just an East Coast
[38:30] because
[38:31] I've taken this same material
[38:35] around. I know this works for everyone.
[38:39] Everyone gets this. You see? So, that's
[38:43] the confidence when I'm doing the
[38:45] special is
[38:47] I already know it works.
[38:48] >> Yeah.
[38:50] >> I just have to deliver it correctly.
[38:52] >> Mhm.
[38:52] >> You know?
[38:53] >> Yeah.
[38:54] >> Yeah. So,
[38:56] the audience for me is never not global.
[38:59] >> Yeah. That's cool. Do you believe
[39:01] there's
[39:02] ever a spiritual attack against you
[39:05] because you're
[39:06] speaking the truth in certain ways? Or
[39:08] do you feel like also people who speak
[39:10] the truth have more spiritual attacks
[39:12] against them?
[39:14] >> It's well documented what happens to
[39:17] whistleblowers worldwide.
[39:21] We all know what they can and
[39:26] are capable of doing.
[39:29] We have far too many
[39:30] scientists
[39:32] dead or missing
[39:34] right now for us to not understand.
[39:38] There are people who don't appreciate
[39:40] it.
[39:41] >> Mhm.
[39:41] >> And you would just be doing yourself a
[39:44] disservice if you didn't understand that
[39:47] going in.
[39:48] >> How do you and how do we defend
[39:50] ourselves against spiritual warfare in
[39:53] our own lives when we are
[39:56] pursuing our passion and our dream where
[39:58] we feel like we're pursuing a calling
[39:59] from God
[40:01] um and we feel like we're under
[40:03] spiritual attack. How should we
[40:06] arm ourselves spiritually?
[40:09] And how have you done this as well? And
[40:12] I don't know if people ask you these
[40:13] questions Cat.
[40:14] >> Never in life. Never
[40:15] >> I don't know if they do or if they
[40:16] don't.
[40:16] >> Only at the School of Greatness.
[40:18] >> [laughter]
[40:19] >> Um
[40:19] >> This is the stuff I feel I'm actually
[40:20] fascinated by with you, you know. It's
[40:22] like obviously you're comedic legend
[40:25] and you've done so many great things and
[40:28] yes
[40:29] but for me I want to understand behind
[40:32] your heart and your mind about how you
[40:34] approach
[40:35] these greater things that I think are
[40:37] happening for you. Maybe not to you but
[40:40] happening for you.
[40:41] And I think there's a lot of wisdom that
[40:43] you've experienced that you could share
[40:45] with us. So that's why I'm really
[40:46] curious.
[40:47] >> At any moment
[40:49] of
[40:50] your life if you are in any spiritual
[40:53] warfare type of situation
[40:57] you are immediately impressed with how
[41:01] weak and inefficient our opposition is.
[41:05] Hmm.
[41:07] I'm only saying it's easy because
[41:10] you're able to track
[41:12] the progress. Hmm.
[41:14] If there isn't somebody trying to stop
[41:17] you from what you're doing then I don't
[41:20] know how you know it's the right thing.
[41:22] But from this side of it
[41:25] yeah you're
[41:27] like you're almost overjoyed to be
[41:30] attacked in spiritual warfare because
[41:33] first of all it means you're worthy.
[41:36] Wait a minute. I'm on the radar?
[41:38] Ho ho
[41:40] That's as much as I wanted. Hmm. That's
[41:43] Yeah. Because that was my whole thing in
[41:45] reading the Bible even young was like
[41:48] God always at
[41:50] these points
[41:52] came down to people and was like okay
[41:54] let me find somebody
[41:57] who loves me.
[41:58] >> You. Yeah.
[41:59] >> Right. And the guy was never qualified.
[42:01] He was never
[42:02] >> Too small.
[42:03] >> that guy in any of the situations. God
[42:06] was just like no. You.
[42:08] >> Yeah. Yeah.
[42:09] >> And the worse you are the more it proves
[42:12] you know? And so,
[42:14] that's why I decided to write a book
[42:17] because
[42:18] if I if I give you my entire life and
[42:22] you see how it went up to this point,
[42:25] even you will agree, wow, I didn't do
[42:29] this. I didn't have, you know? It wasn't
[42:32] me.
[42:33] It wasn't me. I'll I'll show you what I
[42:36] believed and I will show you that I kept
[42:39] believing that
[42:41] and it kept working. Wow, you know? So,
[42:44] >> When you feel the most under attack then
[42:46] in your life,
[42:47] what is your conversation with God like?
[42:49] And how frequently are you speaking with
[42:52] God?
[42:52] >> I don't know how to say it without it
[42:54] sounding embarrassing, but
[42:57] um
[42:57] I only
[43:00] talk to God when I need him for
[43:04] a circumstance or a situation.
[43:08] And I need him every day
[43:12] in
[43:13] all circumstances and situations. And
[43:18] um he's done so much at this point that
[43:22] really I I'm just
[43:24] um making a verbal record
[43:27] between he and I.
[43:29] Oftentimes I've asked for something
[43:33] that
[43:34] I didn't need
[43:36] and would have misused
[43:39] and I didn't get it.
[43:42] I got something else in life, you know?
[43:44] And um
[43:47] your faith is something that you can
[43:50] work on yourself.
[43:51] >> Yeah.
[43:52] >> And um
[43:54] if you're in a situation and you feel
[43:56] like
[43:57] it's not happening,
[44:00] that's your answer. And so, don't stop
[44:04] there. Ask better questions.
[44:07] Because a lot of times you're waiting on
[44:10] answer that already came and you've
[44:13] already acknowledged that you're going
[44:15] you're going
[44:16] Why won't you help me do this?
[44:20] And the answer is you're not supposed to
[44:23] be doing that.
[44:25] Do something else.
[44:28] At least try something else so that you
[44:30] can accidentally find what it is.
[44:33] But if you're expecting help in this
[44:36] situation, you know what I mean?
[44:39] If what you're praying for is a bad
[44:41] marriage, divorce is the answer.
[44:45] >> [laughter]
[44:47] >> You're you're thinking that
[44:50] this hasn't come or you're not being
[44:52] acknowledged.
[44:54] And you have been.
[44:57] >> Yeah. You were a missionary for I think
[44:59] a year, year and a half in Haiti, I
[45:01] believe, right? It was this soon you
[45:02] were or 20s, early 20s or how old were
[45:04] you in this
[45:06] early teens, 20s? Was this
[45:08] >> 15, 18.
[45:10] >> So in your late teens, you're in Haiti,
[45:13] you're helping from my research you're
[45:16] helping mothers
[45:18] save their [clears throat] kids from,
[45:20] you know, going through health
[45:22] challenges
[45:23] and you're in service for a year and a
[45:25] half, roughly.
[45:27] What did being in service to moms and
[45:30] their
[45:31] sick kids teach you about yourself or
[45:34] teach you about life?
[45:36] >> Well, I was still
[45:38] a spoiled American child.
[45:41] So I had never seen abject poverty.
[45:45] Because I was from America, right?
[45:47] So I I had never seen a whole village
[45:52] of people wake up hungry and there not
[45:56] be
[45:57] resources nearby to change that.
[46:01] So that part was
[46:03] eye-opening
[46:05] for me to see how
[46:09] little people could possess financially.
[46:13] >> Mhm.
[46:14] >> And to see that
[46:17] that had no bearing on their happiness.
[46:21] >> Some of these people were happy, too?
[46:24] >> Most of them
[46:25] >> Really?
[46:26] >> were happy.
[46:27] >> Wow.
[46:27] >> And um
[46:30] because they made it their business to
[46:33] be happy.
[46:34] And uh
[46:37] they were joyous.
[46:40] And they didn't have the same
[46:42] background as an African-American
[46:45] person would have.
[46:48] In place of that, they had pride.
[46:51] >> Mhm.
[46:52] >> Because they had been colonized and
[46:55] fought for their own independence.
[46:59] So, yes, starving,
[47:02] but a warrior starving.
[47:04] >> Mhm.
[47:05] >> Someone free starving. So, I would have
[47:08] done whatever I could to help. I was
[47:12] just thankful that I came from a place
[47:15] like America
[47:16] >> [clears throat]
[47:17] >> where we understood that, you know,
[47:20] there are things you can do.
[47:22] >> Yeah.
[47:23] >> And um
[47:24] yeah, it was a it was
[47:27] an entirely it was it was culture shock
[47:31] uh completely, but I just
[47:33] learned so much from their resilience
[47:36] and um
[47:37] seeing people that were born in just
[47:40] terrible, terrible situations,
[47:43] but
[47:44] they didn't care about that. They didn't
[47:46] care about can it be better?
[47:48] >> Mhm.
[47:49] >> And
[47:50] it might look bad to you, but this is
[47:52] the best it's ever been, you know? And
[47:55] um
[47:56] there's something really uh hopeful
[47:59] about that. And the situation with the
[48:04] helping was was just that they were
[48:07] dealing with
[48:08] um diarrhea The babies were dealing with
[48:11] diarrhea from dehydration, right? And
[48:15] this information about, you know,
[48:17] putting some salt
[48:19] in the good water.
[48:20] >> Mhm.
[48:21] >> Um
[48:22] they didn't have that information, and I
[48:25] did. And so
[48:26] >> Knowledge was power. Here was a
[48:28] >> joy to be able to, you know
[48:31] >> You took information from here, and you
[48:32] took it there.
[48:34] >> Right. But being able to see in real
[48:36] time because
[48:38] all this mother knows is that her baby
[48:40] is sick, and
[48:42] she hasn't done anything wrong. She's
[48:45] feeding as best as she can. She's making
[48:49] sure they're clean and doing everything,
[48:52] and this
[48:52] >> Yeah.
[48:53] >> child just won't get any better, you
[48:55] know? And um
[48:57] So, yeah, the the benefits were so
[48:59] instantaneous.
[49:01] Um
[49:03] that I understood why people do
[49:06] missionary work, you know? Just because
[49:10] if you look at it from afar, you just
[49:11] like, "Oh,
[49:13] why would you want to be around
[49:16] this circumstance?" But once you
[49:19] experience the blessing of being able to
[49:22] help somebody in any type of way
[49:24] >> Yeah.
[49:25] >> Um it just does something for you.
[49:28] >> Right.
[49:29] >> Yeah. I was glad to have seen that
[49:30] lesson early on.
[49:32] >> beautiful. Yeah.
[49:33] >> Yeah.
[49:34] >> You got so many powerful stories in your
[49:36] book. I want people to get a copy right
[49:37] now. Get a copy for your friends as
[49:39] well. Nine Lives No Lives and 16
[49:41] Concubines. Um powerful lessons,
[49:44] powerful truth, powerful wisdom
[49:46] by the man, Katt Williams. I want people
[49:48] to check it out. Um
[49:49] couple final questions for you, Katt,
[49:51] and I want to be respectful of time.
[49:53] What is the What's the one thing you
[49:55] wish people really knew about you that
[49:57] you don't think people understand about
[49:58] you?
[49:59] >> Nothing.
[50:00] >> Okay.
[50:01] >> [laughter]
[50:03] >> Okay.
[50:04] >> Yeah. Um at this point, the gig's up. Um
[50:07] >> There you go. Yeah.
[50:07] >> This This was
[50:09] >> It's all out there.
[50:10] >> This was my only story.
[50:11] >> Uh-huh.
[50:12] >> And my my job was just to preserve it
[50:15] long enough in the hopes that maybe one
[50:19] day it'll be helpful
[50:20] >> Yeah.
[50:21] >> to somebody else.
[50:22] >> Yeah.
[50:22] >> And if you read this book, you'll know
[50:26] it can happen to anybody.
[50:28] >> Mhm.
[50:29] >> Like no matter what.
[50:30] >> Wow.
[50:31] >> And that there are some things
[50:35] that you can do
[50:37] to help yourself.
[50:40] And that should be your focus in life is
[50:43] just trying to
[50:45] make yourself a better person.
[50:47] >> 100%.
[50:48] >> Yeah.
[50:48] >> Um this question is what I I ask
[50:51] everyone towards the end of the
[50:52] episodes. It's called the three truths.
[50:54] >> Okay.
[50:54] >> So, imagine a hypothetical scenario. You
[50:56] get to live as long as you want in this
[50:58] Earth,
[50:58] >> Mhm.
[50:59] >> but it's your last day.
[51:00] And you get to create, you know, this
[51:03] book is just one chapter in the many
[51:05] books that you write and the stories you
[51:07] tell for the rest of your life, but
[51:09] for whatever reason on this last
[51:10] hypothetical day,
[51:12] you have to take all of your work with
[51:13] you. The book is gone from this world,
[51:15] this conversation gone, every comedy
[51:17] special you ever do gone. Hypothetical.
[51:20] But on the last day, you get to leave
[51:21] behind three lessons to the world from
[51:23] everything you've been
[51:25] consuming and and shared. I call it
[51:27] three truths. What would those truths be
[51:29] for you that you would leave behind?
[51:31] >> Uh you can never
[51:34] read enough,
[51:35] learn enough,
[51:38] or ask enough questions. Number two,
[51:42] you were
[51:45] perfectly made
[51:46] >> Mhm.
[51:47] by a
[51:50] perfect God who also created a perfect
[51:54] universe
[51:56] for you to exist in.
[51:59] Do with that
[52:01] as you will.
[52:03] And lastly,
[52:05] start out small with yourself
[52:08] and only make improvements
[52:12] to your meals and beverages,
[52:15] to your recreation time, and to your
[52:18] sleep.
[52:20] And
[52:23] if you hone in on those things
[52:26] personally for yourself,
[52:30] you will always be in a better position.
[52:36] >> Katt Williams everywhere on social
[52:37] media. They can get the book right now.
[52:39] You've got an amazing Netflix
[52:42] special out as well. And I think a new
[52:44] podcast coming out on Netflix.
[52:46] >> Indeed, according to Katt.
[52:48] >> According to Katt.
[52:49] >> Mhm.
[52:50] >> The final question is what's your
[52:52] definition of greatness?
[52:53] >> Whatever your
[52:55] last minute of whatever your profession
[52:59] is,
[53:01] how was that?
[53:02] How was your last effort?
[53:05] For all of us athletes, performers, or
[53:08] what have you,
[53:09] the longer you play, the longer you
[53:11] realize
[53:13] nothing's guaranteed.
[53:15] Uh nothing's going to stay the same.
[53:17] Everything's going to change. And um
[53:20] even though every moment won't be your
[53:22] last moment, every moment is guaranteed
[53:25] to be closer
[53:27] to the last uh
[53:29] moment. And so
[53:31] um it cannot be understated
[53:34] how important it is for you to put your
[53:36] best foot forward on everything that you
[53:40] are trying to do. And anything that
[53:45] peaks your interest and curiosity is
[53:48] something worth checking out. And
[53:51] anything that's on your list of things
[53:54] to do,
[53:56] um all of those deserve a higher
[53:59] priority.
[54:00] >> Mhm.
[54:01] >> Um
[54:02] now is the time.
[54:03] >> Yeah.
[54:04] >> Uh
[54:05] that's what I would say.
[54:06] >> Mhm.
[54:07] >> That's all.
[54:07] >> Okay. Thanks for being here, man.
[54:09] >> Thank you for having me.
[54:10] >> I appreciate it. Everything. Everything.
[54:12] I was just super, super insecure. And I
[54:13] think the only thing that gave me
[54:14] confidence [music]
[54:15] was stand-up.
[54:16] >> Wow.
[54:17] I knew I'd kill you on stage, you know?
[54:19] So, it's like you had to [music] go up.
[54:20] >> It was my superpower, yeah.
[54:22] >> Without the stage, it was like you had a
[54:23] lot more
[54:24] >> I felt very Yeah, you know, I had just
[54:26] like this
[54:28] you know, [music] traumatic childhood
[54:30] with, you know,