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[1:16] Uh, what was Oh, one more one other
[1:18] thing to announce before we get started.
[1:20] Uh, my next Way of the Sword retreat is
[1:23] going to be in January and it is going
[1:25] to be at this incredibly amazing place
[1:27] called the Hutton Brickyards in
[1:29] Kingston, New York. You can find the
[1:32] link to it on all of my social media
[1:34] stuff. You can find it on uh Instagram.
[1:36] You can find it on Twitter. You can find
[1:39] it on Substack. All these different
[1:41] places. I posted the link up there so
[1:43] that you can sign up to it. Uh, it is
[1:46] going to be an amazing time in an
[1:48] incredibly intimate environment. It's
[1:50] this this really big house uh in
[1:53] Kingston. I believe there's like 17
[1:55] rooms in there, so we're all going to be
[1:57] sleeping in the same house, unless you
[1:59] choose to get one of the smaller cabins
[2:01] that are also on the property, but we'll
[2:03] be eating every single meal together.
[2:05] Uh, it'll be just us there. No other
[2:07] retreats going on or anything else. Just
[2:09] us there. and it's going to be catered
[2:11] by a professional chef who makes some
[2:13] amazing food. Uh there's a bar in the
[2:17] house. There's a restaurant in the
[2:19] house. There's several fireplaces where
[2:21] we're going to be able to sit around the
[2:22] fireplace and drink hot chocolate after
[2:24] the training sessions each day. Um so
[2:28] join me there because I think it is
[2:30] going to be an absolutely uh amazing
[2:33] time and I cannot wait for it already.
[2:36] What we're going to be talking about
[2:38] tonight is something uh in alchemy that
[2:41] you come across. You hear sometimes
[2:42] called the wet path and the dry path.
[2:45] And the whole reason that I wanted to
[2:47] talk about this is because from my own
[2:51] personal experience and my own personal
[2:52] perspective, the wet path and the dry
[2:55] path are not two mutually exclusive
[2:57] things.
[2:58] First off, the material that I'm going
[3:00] to go over with you go over with you
[3:02] tonight is from what will hopefully be
[3:05] in uh my next books. Um if you haven't
[3:09] seen it yet, uh this book is out right
[3:12] now. Came out about a month ago. It's
[3:14] called The Alchemy of the Broken Blade.
[3:16] And I originally pictured this book as
[3:19] the first of a trilogy. And the reason I
[3:22] was thinking of them as a trilogy is one
[3:24] for each stage of the alchemical
[3:27] process. The first stage is Negrado.
[3:29] Negrado is like the disintegration, the
[3:32] coming apart, the dark knight of the
[3:34] soul, all of that sort of stuff. And if
[3:36] you've read this already, you kind of
[3:37] know that's that's a huge part of what
[3:39] this is about. Like when I got out of
[3:41] prison and I was going through my whole
[3:42] dark night of the soul, like people
[3:44] thought once I got off death row, it was
[3:45] just going to be happily ever after. It
[3:47] was not. When I got off of death row, I
[3:49] had a complete and absolute nervous
[3:51] breakdown and it took me a long time to
[3:53] be able to function in the world again.
[3:56] And this book goes into that. But it's
[3:58] it's not just about my personal
[4:00] experience. It's about how you can use
[4:02] the things that I learned during that
[4:04] time and how I came back from that time
[4:06] in your own life. You know, for example,
[4:08] one of the big things that this focuses
[4:11] on is how important it is to have a
[4:14] purpose or a mission in life. Most
[4:17] people don't have that. And the thing
[4:19] is, if you don't have a purpose in life,
[4:21] if you don't have a mission that you're
[4:23] fulfilling, that you're working on,
[4:25] what's going to happen is you are going
[4:27] to begin living for comfort and you
[4:30] won't like how that ends up. You know
[4:32] what I mean by comfort is, you know, you
[4:34] eat just because you're bored and you're
[4:36] not going to like the condition that
[4:38] your body gets in if you do that. You
[4:40] spend all your time binge watching
[4:42] Netflix or, you know, whatever. all the
[4:44] things we do that everybody does some of
[4:46] these things at some point or another
[4:48] but they're things that we try to use to
[4:50] comfort ourselves whatever they are you
[4:52] know when we're chasing things like that
[4:55] we will never like the end result of
[4:58] those paths so this is about finding
[5:00] meaning and purpose in a world that
[5:02] tries to strip us of those things uh you
[5:05] know they the powers that be whatever
[5:08] you want to call it they want us focused
[5:10] on whatever the latest tragedy is what's
[5:12] the latest gossip on social media or on
[5:16] the news or whatever it is. They want to
[5:18] keep us distracted and weak and not
[5:21] working towards anything that's actually
[5:22] going to be of benefit to us in any way.
[5:25] So, a lot of this is about finding out
[5:27] how to do the reverse of that to live
[5:30] with meaning and purpose. But, so this
[5:33] was the Negrado book. The second one um
[5:36] and and keep in mind also there will be
[5:39] a workbook that accompanies this. It
[5:41] will not be out until next year, like
[5:42] next September. There will be a Alchemy
[5:44] of the Broken Blade workbook because I
[5:47] had so much material that there was no
[5:49] way to get it all into this one volume.
[5:51] So, they're going to put it in a
[5:52] workbook and and we're going to do it in
[5:55] a format to help you get even more use
[5:57] out of this material. So, don't I'm not
[6:00] talking about the workbook here. The
[6:01] workbook is something completely
[6:03] separate. But the sequel to this, the
[6:05] second of the trilogy will hopefully
[6:08] focus on the Albo stage of alchemy. And
[6:11] then the third book, the end of the
[6:14] trilogy, will focus on the rubo stage.
[6:18] By the time all of these books are
[6:20] finished, and hopefully
[6:22] the publisher wants to publish them, by
[6:25] the time they're finished, I don't
[6:28] really foresee myself writing any more
[6:30] books. I believe this is the cul this is
[6:32] the culmination of my entire life's
[6:34] work. This series, this threebook series
[6:37] will be the culmination of my entire
[6:39] life's work and it will be everything
[6:40] that I have to say about the spiritual
[6:42] path. Because the truth is, I'm really
[6:44] not interested in spirituality anymore.
[6:48] Once you go far enough down this path,
[6:51] you realize that the next part of your
[6:53] growth process is all about immersing
[6:56] yourself deeper and deeper into living
[6:59] into being here now. Not ascending to
[7:02] other realms or, you know, losing
[7:05] yourself in rituals or constantly doing
[7:07] research to find what the next thing is
[7:09] going to be. It's about living where
[7:13] your life becomes your spiritual
[7:16] practice. Doing the dishes is your
[7:18] spiritual practice. Folding the laundry
[7:20] is your spiritual practice. The way you
[7:22] talk to other people, the way you listen
[7:24] to other people, the way you eat your
[7:25] meals, the way you go for a walk in the
[7:27] morning. All of these things are your
[7:30] spiritual practice. It's not about gods
[7:33] and angels and ancestors and what
[7:36] whatever else it is that that people go
[7:38] nuts over. It is about your life. Your
[7:41] life is your path.
[7:44] But I'm talking about all this because
[7:46] what I want to share with you tonight is
[7:48] not in this book. This will be from one
[7:50] of the other two. And one of the reasons
[7:54] that I wanted to focus on this talking
[7:56] about the wet path and the dry path.
[7:58] This is something that we're kind of
[7:59] going over right now in the advanced
[8:02] magnumopus group. Uh the group that has
[8:04] been with me for several years now. Um
[8:07] this is one of the things we were
[8:08] talking about with them recently about
[8:10] the wet path and the dry path. And keep
[8:12] in mind
[8:15] there's two ways to kind of look at
[8:16] this. One is the external way and one is
[8:18] the internal way. So what I mean by the
[8:20] external way is like in traditional
[8:24] uh laboratory alchemy.
[8:27] The wet path was when you were working
[8:30] with like literally wet substances, you
[8:33] know, like you're using alcohol to
[8:35] remove plant essences from the plants
[8:37] and you're using a distillation kit
[8:39] where you evaporate it and then condense
[8:42] it and you get the essential oils off of
[8:44] there and all that stuff. That's the wet
[8:46] path. The dry path externally looked
[8:49] more like using things like powders and
[8:52] metals, uh, things that were literally
[8:55] dry.
[8:56] However,
[8:58] drawing a line between internal alchemy
[9:00] and external alchemy is almost
[9:04] there's almost no point in even trying
[9:06] to do that because this is what they
[9:07] mean when they say in alchemy the
[9:09] laboratory doesn't lie. It means that
[9:11] whatever you're doing externally is
[9:13] going to have an effect on you
[9:15] internally. But also what you're doing
[9:17] externally is going to be a reflection
[9:19] of your internal state. Like if you mess
[9:22] something up, you get something wrong,
[9:24] whatever it is, it's not a complete
[9:26] loss. Like that's telling you where in
[9:28] yourself the work is still to be done,
[9:30] right? So that external and internal
[9:33] thing, there is such an overlap there
[9:36] that it's not like doing like procedural
[9:40] alchemy, you know, like making like
[9:42] putting stuff through a distillation
[9:43] kit. That is not just an external thing.
[9:46] That is an internal practice. Just like
[9:48] when you're up and you're going around
[9:49] the room and you're drawing hexogs and
[9:51] pentagrams and vibrating divine names of
[9:53] angels, all that kind of stuff. It looks
[9:55] like you're doing something externally,
[9:57] but you're doing something to yourself
[9:59] internally. So procedural alchemy is the
[10:02] same way. So there really is no line
[10:07] between the external and the internal.
[10:08] You know, as above, so below, as within,
[10:10] so without. It's the same thing. Well,
[10:13] it's the same way with the wet path and
[10:15] the dry path. Some people will try to
[10:18] make make these things seem as if
[10:20] there's a straight dividing line and the
[10:22] wet path is this and the dry path is
[10:24] this, right? But
[10:27] that's not the way it works. That's not
[10:29] how it is. Like there is an overlap and
[10:32] you'll see that in what I'm about to
[10:35] read to you tonight. So the first thing
[10:36] that I want to go over with you, one
[10:39] second just to find it.
[10:44] One second.
[10:46] Okay. So the first thing the first piece
[10:48] is just talking about what these paths
[10:50] are the wet path and the dry path in
[10:53] alchemy. So in traditional alchemy there
[10:55] are two principle approaches to
[10:57] accomplishing the great work known as
[11:00] the wet path and the dry path. Although
[11:03] these originally referred to different
[11:05] methods of working with physical
[11:07] substances like I was just telling you
[11:09] about, they also provide a useful way of
[11:12] understanding how human transformation
[11:14] takes place, how we change. The wet path
[11:18] is generally considered the slower and
[11:21] more gradual approach. Well, if it's
[11:23] slower and more gradual, why would
[11:25] anyone choose it? Because it's seen as
[11:27] safer. it's not as as tumultuous
[11:30] uh and earth shaking whenever you're
[11:33] experiencing it, you know, like
[11:34] meditating every day. Not going to talk
[11:36] about that yet because I go into it in
[11:38] here. Um the wet path is generally
[11:41] considered the slower and more gradual
[11:43] approach. It involves repeated cycles of
[11:46] dissolution, purification, and
[11:48] refinement. The dry path on the other
[11:51] hand relies on more intensive heat and
[11:54] force attempting to accomplish
[11:56] transformation much more rapidly.
[12:00] Both seek the same result but they
[12:03] approach it differently. Both are
[12:05] seeking to complete the great work. When
[12:08] we apply these principles to our own
[12:10] consciousness, the distinction becomes
[12:12] easier to understand.
[12:15] The wet path is the path of gradual
[12:17] development. It's what happens when
[12:20] someone dedicates themselves to
[12:22] something like meditation, martial arts,
[12:25] or another discipline that slowly
[12:27] changes the way that they experience the
[12:29] world. They there may not be any
[12:32] dramatic big instantaneous
[12:35] breakthroughs.
[12:36] Instead, the transformation takes place
[12:39] through thousands of tiny adjustments
[12:43] day after day.
[12:45] Think about someone who begins
[12:46] practicing meditation, for example. At
[12:49] first, they may be unable to sit still
[12:52] for five minutes without becoming
[12:54] overwhelmed by their own thoughts. But
[12:57] after a year of daily practice, they
[12:59] begin noticing that their thoughts no
[13:01] longer have quite the same power over
[13:03] them. After five years, they may
[13:05] discover that situations which once
[13:08] provoked intense anger barely even
[13:11] disturb them now. They haven't
[13:13] experienced some tremendous
[13:15] instantaneous revelation. They've simply
[13:18] become a different person through this
[13:21] extended period of consistent practice.
[13:25] Martial arts works exactly the same way.
[13:29] You practice the exact same movements
[13:31] thousands of times, gradually correcting
[13:34] your mistakes. Eventually, things that
[13:37] once required tremendous concentration
[13:40] become effortless.
[13:42] But something else also begins to happen
[13:45] in the process. You're also developing
[13:48] patience, discipline, awareness, and the
[13:52] ability to remain calm under pressure.
[13:55] This is the wet path.
[13:58] Keeping in mind when I get to the second
[13:59] part where I'm talking about martial
[14:01] arts and meditation and calling it the
[14:03] wet path here, those things can also be
[14:05] the dry path, but we'll get to that in a
[14:07] minute. The dry path is different.
[14:10] Rather than gradually dissolving our
[14:13] habitual patterns, it involves
[14:15] experiences intense enough to shatter
[14:18] them all at once. This might happen
[14:21] through a profound spiritual experience,
[14:24] a confrontation with death, or a crisis
[14:27] that completely dismantles someone's
[14:29] understanding of themselves.
[14:32] For example, someone might spend decades
[14:35] believing that their career, their
[14:37] profession, their social position, that
[14:40] these things define who they are. Then
[14:43] they experience a serious illness or
[14:45] narrowly escape death. Suddenly,
[14:49] everything they previously considered
[14:51] important seems absolutely meaningless.
[14:54] Their entire understanding of life and
[14:57] what's important in life changes like
[15:00] that. or at least overnight.
[15:04] Something similar can happen through
[15:06] intensive spiritual practice. A person
[15:08] may experience a sudden collapse of
[15:11] their ordinary sense of self, leaving
[15:13] them unable to see the world in the same
[15:16] way ever again. But there's an important
[15:19] distinction here that I believe is often
[15:22] overlooked. A traumatic experience is
[15:26] not necessarily a transformative
[15:28] experience.
[15:30] Sometimes people mistake psychological
[15:32] devastation for spiritual development.
[15:35] They assume that because someone has
[15:37] suffered tremendously, they must have
[15:40] acquired wisdom. But suffering can just
[15:44] as easily leave someone frightened,
[15:47] bitter, and disconnected from life. How
[15:49] do I know this? Because I've been there.
[15:52] That's what spawned this book. Alchemy
[15:54] of the Broken Blade. That's where this
[15:56] came from. my experiences with going
[15:58] through that shattering.
[16:01] The fire doesn't automatically produce
[16:03] gold. Sometimes it simply destroys the
[16:07] material or the person.
[16:17] And even when an experience produces
[16:19] genuine insight, that insight doesn't
[16:22] necessarily change someone's behavior. A
[16:26] person can experience the complete
[16:27] dissolution of their ego during
[16:29] meditation and still behave selfishly
[16:32] the following morning. This is why you
[16:35] see gurus, you know, people will say,
[16:36] "Oh, that guy must be a fraud. That guy
[16:38] must be a charlatan because he did this
[16:41] or he did that and it seems like an
[16:43] enlightened person would never do that."
[16:45] Well, what does enlightenment mean?
[16:47] Enlightenment just means you experience
[16:48] the dissolution of self. Doesn't mean
[16:50] you're perfect. doesn't mean that you've
[16:53] integrated all of the unconscious crap
[16:55] that you've spent your entire life
[16:57] building up. That takes time. It takes
[17:00] time and everybody develops in different
[17:03] areas at different rates of speed.
[17:06] So, this brings us to something
[17:08] interesting about the relationship
[17:10] between the two paths, the the wet path
[17:12] and the dry path. I don't think they're
[17:15] necessarily separate. I don't think you
[17:17] can draw an arbitrary line saying this
[17:20] is that and this is the other. Someone
[17:22] might spend 20 years following the wet
[17:25] path gradually preparing themselves for
[17:27] a realization that occurs in a single
[17:30] instant. So the wet path brought you to
[17:33] an instantaneous change which is what
[17:35] the dry path does. From the outside, it
[17:39] looks like sudden enlightenment. But
[17:41] without those 20 years of preparation,
[17:44] the experience might never have occurred
[17:47] or the person might not have even been
[17:49] able to understand what it was that they
[17:51] just experienced.
[17:53] Likewise, and I know that sounds crazy,
[17:55] but it's it's absolutely true. You can
[17:57] have the experience of the dissolution
[17:58] of self and not realize like what what
[18:01] even happened to you. You know something
[18:03] happened to you, but you you can't even
[18:05] figure out what. Well, you don't hear
[18:06] about that kind of stuff in most
[18:08] spiritual books or people talking about
[18:10] it or anything else. It's like, "Oh, I
[18:12] went through this enlightenment
[18:13] experience and I knew it." No, sometimes
[18:15] you can go through the disintegration of
[18:17] self and h and not even be able to
[18:19] understand what just happened to you.
[18:21] Especially if you aren't part of like a
[18:22] lineage or a tradition where the stuff
[18:24] is even talked about.
[18:27] In other words, the wet path can prepare
[18:29] us for the dry path. And the dry path
[18:32] can lead us back to the wet path.
[18:36] And there's another distinction worth
[18:38] considering. We can deliberately choose
[18:41] gradual practice, but we can't always
[18:44] choose the experiences that radically
[18:46] change us. Life sometimes subjects us to
[18:50] the fire, whether we're prepared for it
[18:52] or not. And trying to manufacture a
[18:55] crisis in the hope of achieving
[18:57] enlightenment is an extremely dangerous
[19:00] misunderstanding of the process.
[19:03] I won't talk too much about this because
[19:06] it's kind of a personal thing to
[19:07] everybody involved, but I've known of
[19:10] people who did not survive trying to
[19:14] orchestrate like this this uh you know
[19:20] crisis moment in their life
[19:23] in hopes of achieving enlightenment.
[19:25] They did not survive the process.
[19:28] This is one reason I've come to place so
[19:30] much importance on ordinary daily
[19:33] discipline. We tend to romanticize
[19:36] sudden transformation.
[19:38] People want the dramatic breakthrough,
[19:41] the overwhelming revelation, the
[19:43] experience that changes everything in an
[19:46] instant. But what happens the following
[19:48] morning after that? What happens when
[19:51] you have to deal with frustration or
[19:53] disappointment or boredom or the
[19:55] ordinary difficulties that we all
[19:57] experience from being human? That is
[20:01] where your transformation is going to be
[20:03] truly tested.
[20:05] The purpose of alchemy was never simply
[20:08] to produce these extraordinary
[20:10] experiences that you hear people
[20:12] describe. The purpose of it is to
[20:15] produce something stable, to make us
[20:19] stable. to make us something that can
[20:21] withstand the fire of life, the fire of
[20:26] experience without being destroyed by
[20:28] it. And I think that's an important way
[20:30] of understanding the great work. The
[20:33] goal isn't to become someone who's
[20:35] experienced extraordinary things, you
[20:37] know, to become special through this
[20:39] stuff. That's just ego wearing robes,
[20:42] you know. The the goal isn't to become
[20:44] someone who has experienced
[20:45] extraordinary things. It's to become
[20:48] someone who can meet ordinary life with
[20:51] extraordinary clarity. Whether we arrive
[20:54] there through water or fire, the proof
[20:58] of transformation is found in one thing.
[21:02] How we live each day of our lives.
[21:05] So that's the first one where I'm just
[21:07] talking about like the differences in
[21:09] the wet path and the dry path of
[21:10] alchemy. Second thing I'm going to leave
[21:12] you with, I want to go deeper into the
[21:15] dry path,
[21:18] talking a little bit more about this.
[21:24] And there may be a little bit of overlap
[21:26] in here. Like for example, the first
[21:29] sentence I talk about how there's two
[21:30] approaches to accomplishing the great
[21:32] work. It's something you've read from
[21:34] the other one, but this one does go into
[21:35] things that the other one did.
[21:38] So in alchemy there are two approaches
[21:40] to accomplishing the great work.
[21:41] Traditionally known as the wet path and
[21:43] the dry path. The wet path is associated
[21:46] with gradual transformation, dissolution
[21:49] and purification. The dry path is
[21:52] associated with intense heat, fire and
[21:54] rapid transformation.
[21:56] These originally referred to different
[21:58] ways of working with physical substances
[22:00] but they can also be understood as
[22:02] descriptions of the process of
[22:04] transforming ourselves.
[22:07] One of the questions I sometimes hear is
[22:09] how someone would consciously choose to
[22:12] follow the dry path. Like what I mean
[22:15] when people ask these questions,
[22:17] essentially what they're asking is what
[22:19] would it look like to follow the dry
[22:21] path in everyday life? Like how does
[22:23] that look? How do you do that? You know,
[22:26] how would someone deliberately enter the
[22:28] fire rather than waiting for life to put
[22:30] them through? You know, because
[22:34] crisis and things that change us, we
[22:36] don't always control when those happen
[22:37] to us. I didn't when I went to death
[22:39] row, I didn't control that. I had no
[22:41] control over that. It's not like I set
[22:43] that in motion. So, you know, other than
[22:46] something happening to us like that
[22:47] that's not of our own accord. Uh how do
[22:51] we get to that point?
[22:53] So I think the first thing to understand
[22:55] is that choosing the dry path means
[22:57] making a conscious decision to stop
[23:00] avoiding the things that need to change
[23:03] within yourself. That's the first thing.
[23:05] Stop lying to yourself. Stop making
[23:07] excuses about the things that you know
[23:10] need to change in you. Maybe you gossip
[23:12] too much. Maybe you're lazy. Maybe you
[23:15] talk down to people who can't do
[23:18] anything to you. Whatever it is, first
[23:20] step is coming to terms with the things
[23:23] about yourself that are less than
[23:24] perfect. That's that's a mandatory
[23:27] thing. Nothing else can happen until we
[23:29] do that first. So the first thing
[23:32] understand that choosing the dry path
[23:33] means making the conscious decision to
[23:35] to stop avoiding the things that need to
[23:38] change within yourself. Instead of
[23:40] waiting for circumstances to gradually
[23:43] wear away your attachments, habits, and
[23:46] illusions, you deliberately begin
[23:48] confronting them. For example, imagine
[23:52] someone who realizes that most of their
[23:54] life has been controlled by fear. And
[23:56] some people do not know this. I know
[23:59] people that are absolutely controlled by
[24:01] fear and don't have the first clue that
[24:02] that's what's dictating their actions
[24:04] most of the time. So, the first step is
[24:06] coming to the realization of it.
[24:09] uh fear of rejection, fear of failure,
[24:12] fear of being alone, fear of what other
[24:14] people think about you. These fears have
[24:17] been making their decisions for them for
[24:20] so long that they no longer even
[24:22] recognize what's happening. They simply
[24:25] believe that that's the way that they
[24:27] are. Someone following the wet path
[24:30] might gradually work through these fears
[24:32] through meditation, reflection, and
[24:35] ordinary experiences of life. Over time,
[24:38] they begin to recognize their patterns
[24:40] and loosen their grip on them. Someone
[24:43] consciously choosing the dry path might
[24:46] take a much more direct approach. If
[24:49] they're afraid of being alone, for
[24:51] example, they might deliberately
[24:53] establish a period of solitude. If
[24:56] they're afraid of failure, they might
[24:58] dedicate themselves to learning
[25:00] something difficult where failure is
[25:02] going to be inevitable to some degree.
[25:06] If they're dependent upon the approval
[25:08] of other people, they might begin making
[25:10] decisions based upon their own
[25:12] principles, even when those decisions
[25:15] are unpopular with the masses.
[25:19] Instead of waiting for life to expose
[25:21] their attachments, they deliberately
[25:23] create circumstances in which those
[25:26] attachments become impossible to ignore.
[25:29] This is what it means to willingly enter
[25:32] the fire. But there's something
[25:34] important that needs to be understood.
[25:36] The dry path is not simply about making
[25:39] your life more difficult.
[25:42] Difficulty by itself doesn't necessarily
[25:45] accomplish anything. There are people
[25:48] who suffer tremendously throughout their
[25:50] whole lives without ever becoming any
[25:52] wiser, any more compassionate, or any
[25:55] more conscious.
[25:57] Sometimes suffering simply makes people
[26:00] bitter and resentful.
[26:02] For the dry path to actually accomplish
[26:05] anything, there has to be a clear
[26:08] intention behind it. You have to know
[26:11] what you're trying to cultivate within
[26:13] yourself. Like is it patience? Is it
[26:16] bravery? Is it compassion? Is it
[26:19] generosity? Like what? Like that's the
[26:21] first thing. What am I actively
[26:23] intentionally trying to cultivate within
[26:25] myself? That's the first thing.
[26:28] Maybe your intention is to become less
[26:30] reactive. Maybe it's to develop
[26:32] discipline or overcome fear or stop
[26:35] allowing unconscious habits to determine
[26:37] the direction of your life. Whatever it
[26:40] is, that intention becomes the
[26:42] organizing principle around which you
[26:44] begin structuring your days. This brings
[26:48] us to another important aspect of
[26:49] alchemy, which is the vessel. In
[26:52] traditional alchemy, the vessel was just
[26:55] as important as the fire. Without
[26:58] something capable of containing the
[27:00] process, the material would be destroyed
[27:03] or scattered. The heat had to be applied
[27:06] within a controlled environment. And the
[27:10] same principle applies to inner
[27:12] transformation. The transformation in
[27:14] us. The vessel is our practice. It's the
[27:18] structure of our practice. It's the
[27:20] discipline that allows you to undergo
[27:22] difficult experiences without becoming
[27:25] overwhelmed by them. For one person,
[27:28] this might mean establishing a daily
[27:30] meditation practice. For another, it
[27:32] might be dedicating themselves to music,
[27:35] art, or some other kind of demanding
[27:37] craft. For me, martial arts and sword
[27:40] training provide an excell excellent
[27:43] example of what this process looks like,
[27:46] which is once again why I call this book
[27:48] the alchemy of the broken blade because
[27:50] so much of it of my healing process
[27:52] comes through the sword.
[27:56] And it's why I do retreats on the sword.
[27:59] When you begin practicing a traditional
[28:01] martial art, you voluntarily enter an
[28:04] environment where your weaknesses are
[28:06] constantly exposed.
[28:08] You discover that you're not as strong,
[28:11] as coordinated, as patient, or as
[28:14] disciplined as you imagined yourself to
[28:16] be. You have to make mistakes in front
[28:19] of other people. You become frustrated.
[28:22] You encounter the limitations of your
[28:24] body and of your attention. And then you
[28:27] still have to return the following day.
[28:30] You practice the same movements over and
[28:32] over. You repeat things you've already
[28:35] done thousands of times. You discover
[28:38] that progress doesn't always happen
[28:40] according to your expectations.
[28:42] Sometimes you spend weeks working on
[28:45] something and feel as though you're
[28:46] getting absolutely nowhere. And this is
[28:50] where the real work begins. The physical
[28:53] techniques are important, but they're
[28:55] also providing the conditions necessary
[28:57] for something deeper to happen. You're
[29:00] learning to remain present when things
[29:02] become uncomfortable. You're learning to
[29:04] experience frustration without being
[29:07] controlled by it. You're learning that
[29:09] failure doesn't have to become part of
[29:12] your identity.
[29:17] So, just to take a tiny break for just a
[29:20] second. We don't have a lot longer to
[29:22] go, but I would just wanted to say that
[29:25] one of the ways that I did this work in
[29:27] my own life, in my own self,
[29:30] was competing in karate tournaments. Um,
[29:33] I don't know if you can see him or not.
[29:35] You see the the dummy back here in the
[29:37] background? You see all the little
[29:38] metals around his neck? Can't figure out
[29:41] which way to point my finger. It may be
[29:43] too far away for you to see. All of
[29:45] those came from karate tournaments that
[29:47] I competed in. Martial arts tournaments.
[29:50] I didn't enjoy them. Not in the
[29:53] traditional sense that you think of when
[29:55] you think of enjoying something. I did
[29:57] it because I was scared to do it. I did
[29:59] it because I was, you know, super
[30:02] self-conscious. Like, you do this inside
[30:04] of a a gymnasium full of people, you
[30:08] know, an auditorium full of people who
[30:09] are watching you. They will watch you if
[30:12] you fall and and fall flat on your butt
[30:15] on the floor. They're going to see you
[30:18] if you get beat. You know, it's it's a
[30:21] very very humbling thing. And it was not
[30:24] enjoyable to me. And that's why I made
[30:26] myself do it. I made myself do it in
[30:29] order to face my fear and to face what I
[30:33] felt about what other people would think
[30:34] of me. When you go through something
[30:37] like that, it strips that away from you.
[30:39] Maybe not all at once, not the first
[30:41] time. I did it multiple multiple times,
[30:43] many times. I don't even remember how
[30:45] many tournaments I was in now. Uh some
[30:47] of which I absolutely did not win
[30:49] medals. Some of I I came in very very
[30:52] bottom, you know, not anywhere near
[30:55] first, second, or third place.
[30:57] Uh, but that was one of the ways that I
[31:00] put myself on the dry path was through
[31:03] tournaments, martial arts tournaments.
[31:06] Most people spend their lives reacting
[31:09] automatically to whatever arises within
[31:12] them. Someone insults them and they
[31:14] become angry. Someone frightens them and
[31:17] they immediately retreat. Their pride is
[31:20] wounded and they feel compelled to
[31:22] defend themselves. They experience
[31:24] discomfort and their first impulse is to
[31:27] try to escape it. These reactions happen
[31:30] so quickly that people rarely recognize
[31:34] they even have a choice. The dry path
[31:37] involves deliberately placing yourself
[31:39] in situations where these patterns
[31:41] become visible and then learning to
[31:44] remain present instead of automatically
[31:46] reacting. When anger arises, you observe
[31:50] it rather than immediately acting upon
[31:52] it. When fear arises, you examine it
[31:55] rather than allowing it to make your
[31:57] decisions. When your ego is wounded, you
[32:00] resist the impulse to immediately defend
[32:02] the image that you have of yourself. You
[32:05] allow the experience to reveal something
[32:08] about you to yourself.
[32:11] This is what alchemists were pointing
[32:12] toward when they spoke of applying heat
[32:14] to the material. The fire exposes what
[32:18] is unstable. It reveals what cannot
[32:21] withstand pressure. But there's another
[32:24] aspect of this that I think people
[32:26] sometimes overlook and that is that the
[32:29] dry path requires tremendous honesty.
[32:33] It's easy to convince yourself that
[32:35] you're under growing undergoing some
[32:37] great spiritual transformation when all
[32:39] you're really doing is reinforcing your
[32:42] existing personality.
[32:44] Someone might adopt extreme disciplines
[32:46] and austerities, then become proud of
[32:49] how much suffering they can endure. They
[32:51] begin looking down upon people who
[32:53] haven't chosen the same path. And I've
[32:56] been guilty of that. Everything that I
[32:58] write comes from my own firsthand
[32:59] experiences. I've been guilty of looking
[33:02] down on people because they chose not to
[33:04] enter situations that were hard or
[33:06] difficult or because they clung to
[33:08] comfort or familiarity. I have
[33:10] absolutely looked down on people for
[33:12] that.
[33:13] And that's just ego. That's my own ego.
[33:18] In that case, the practice has simply
[33:20] given the ego another identity to hide
[33:23] behind. Instead of becoming less
[33:25] attached, they become attached to being
[33:28] someone who practices detachment.
[33:30] Instead of becoming more conscious, they
[33:32] develop a new set of unconscious habits.
[33:36] This is why the fire has to be
[33:38] regulated. If there's too little heat,
[33:41] nothing changes. Too much heat and the
[33:44] vessel breaks. There's no wisdom in
[33:47] destroying yourself in the name of
[33:49] transformation.
[33:51] Rest, recovery, compassion, and ordinary
[33:56] enjoyment aren't necessarily obstacles
[33:58] to the great work. Life is not meant to
[34:01] be a drudge all the time. Sometimes
[34:04] they're precisely what allows us to
[34:07] continue the process.
[34:09] A person who constantly pushing pushes
[34:12] themselves beyond their limits may
[34:14] eventually become exhausted, injured, or
[34:16] emotionally unstable. At that point,
[34:19] they're no longer refining themselves.
[34:21] They're simply damaging the vessel. The
[34:24] purpose of discipline is to develop
[34:26] greater freedom, not to create another
[34:29] form of imprisonment. I also think it's
[34:32] important to understand that choosing
[34:34] the dry path doesn't necessarily mean
[34:36] making dramatic changes to your life.
[34:39] You don't have to abandon your family,
[34:41] give away your possessions, or disappear
[34:43] into the wilderness somewhere. You you
[34:46] can begin exactly where you are right
[34:48] now today. You can decide that you're
[34:50] going to stop avoiding difficult
[34:52] conversations that you've been putting
[34:54] off. You can commit to practicing
[34:57] something every day, even when you don't
[34:59] feel like it. You can begin examining
[35:01] the motives behind your actions instead
[35:04] of automatically assuming that they're
[35:06] justified.
[35:07] You can learn to sit quietly with
[35:09] discomfort without immediately reaching
[35:11] for something to distract yourself.
[35:14] These things might sound like they're
[35:16] simple, but anyone who seriously
[35:18] attempted to do them knows how difficult
[35:21] that they can be. And there's one other
[35:24] thing worth considering. Sometimes the
[35:26] most difficult thing for a person to do
[35:28] isn't to endure hardship. It's to stop
[35:32] creating unnecessary hardships for
[35:35] themselves.
[35:37] Someone who spent their entire life
[35:39] struggling might find it much easier to
[35:41] subject themselves to another extreme
[35:43] discipline than to simply sit quietly
[35:46] and experience peace. Someone who has
[35:49] built their identity around being strong
[35:51] might find it easier to endure physical
[35:54] pain than to admit they're frightened or
[35:56] need help. In these cases, the fire may
[36:00] look very different from what they
[36:01] expected it to look like. It might mean
[36:04] learning how to rest or accepting
[36:06] kindness. It might mean allowing
[36:09] yourself to be vulnerable without
[36:11] immediately trying to regain control of
[36:13] a situation.
[36:15] The dry path is not defined by how much
[36:18] suffering you can endure. It's defined
[36:20] by your willingness to confront whatever
[36:23] it is that you've been avoiding. And
[36:26] ultimately, all of this leads to
[36:27] something that might initially seem like
[36:29] a contradiction.
[36:31] The purpose of all this effort is to
[36:33] reach a point where effort is no longer
[36:36] necessary.
[36:38] When I talk about the ultimate goal of
[36:39] alchemy, what I'm talking about is
[36:42] embodied presence. Being here in the
[36:44] present moment, the ability to be
[36:46] completely here without constantly
[36:49] escaping into memories in the past or
[36:52] projections into the future or fantasies
[36:56] or endless commentaries of our thinking
[36:58] minds. The strange thing is that
[37:01] presence itself doesn't require any
[37:04] effort. It's already the natural
[37:07] condition of our existence. But we've
[37:10] developed so many habits of distraction
[37:13] and resistance to it and identification
[37:16] that we've forgotten how to recognize
[37:18] it. The disciplines of the dry path can
[37:21] help expose and weaken those habits. You
[37:25] deliberately enter situations that
[37:27] reveal your attachments. You practice
[37:29] remaining present when those attachments
[37:31] are challenged. Over time, you begin
[37:34] discovering that thoughts and emotions
[37:37] can arise without completely taking over
[37:39] your consciousness. See how much longer
[37:42] we have to go.
[37:46] I'll keep going. It's It's a little bit
[37:47] longer. Bear with me. I won't keep you
[37:50] on here for more than a few more
[37:52] minutes.
[38:00] So you deliberately enter situations
[38:01] that reveal your attachments.
[38:04] You practice remaining present when
[38:05] those attachments are challenged. Over
[38:08] time, you begin discovering that
[38:09] thoughts and emotions can arise without
[38:11] completely taking over your
[38:13] consciousness. Eventually, you may you
[38:16] may begin to realize that the thing
[38:17] you've been trying so hard to cultivate
[38:19] was never actually absent.
[38:22] This is where the dry path and the wet
[38:25] path ultimately meet. Both are methods
[38:28] of transformation and both eventually
[38:32] have to be abandoned.
[38:35] All spiritual practices, the Buddha
[38:37] called them a raft. He said that think
[38:40] of enlightenment
[38:42] as one side of a like there's a river
[38:46] and enlightenment is on the other shore
[38:48] and we're on this shore and we need a
[38:50] raft to cross over and these practices
[38:52] are the raft that we used to cross the
[38:54] river to get to the other side. But once
[38:56] we get to the other side, we don't carry
[38:58] the raft with us. We don't need it
[39:00] anymore. We burn it or set it a float,
[39:03] leave it alone, whatever, but we don't
[39:05] carry it with us. The point is to become
[39:08] free enough that you no longer need the
[39:10] method. And I think this is one of the
[39:13] most important things to remember when
[39:14] consciously choosing any spiritual
[39:17] discipline. The practice is a means of
[39:20] reaching something. It is not the thing
[39:23] itself. Spiritual practice is a vehicle
[39:26] to get us to a destination. It is not
[39:29] the destination. We're not supposed to
[39:31] build identities out of this stuff. I'm
[39:33] a witch. I'm a magician. I'm an
[39:35] alchemist. I'm a Christian. I'm a
[39:37] Buddhist. We're not supposed to build an
[39:39] identity out of this stuff. That's just
[39:41] more ego. We're supposed to use it as a
[39:43] vehicle to get to the point that we're
[39:45] supposed to be reaching and then we
[39:47] don't need it anymore. We discard it.
[39:51] Eventually, you have to recognize when
[39:53] the discipline has accomplished its
[39:55] purpose. You have to be willing to put
[39:58] down the tools. So, if someone asked me
[40:00] how to consciously choose the dry path,
[40:03] my answer would be relatively simple.
[40:06] Begin by identifying the things that are
[40:08] keeping you from living consciously.
[40:10] Look at the fears, attachments, habits,
[40:13] and reactions that repeatedly determine
[40:15] your behavior. Be willing to acknowledge
[40:18] the things about yourself that you would
[40:20] rather not see. Then choose a discipline
[40:24] that will bring you face to face with
[40:26] those things. Establish a structure that
[40:30] allows you to practice consistently and
[40:32] return to it every day regardless of
[40:36] whether you feel inspired or not. Pay
[40:39] attention to what happens within you
[40:41] when things become difficult. Learn to
[40:44] remain present instead of automatically
[40:47] trying to escape. And remember that the
[40:50] purpose isn't to become harder or more
[40:53] severe
[40:54] or more capable of enduring suffering.
[40:58] The purpose is to become less divided
[41:01] within ourselves.
[41:02] You don't enter the fire because you
[41:04] deserve to suffer. You're not punishing
[41:07] yourself. You enter it because you've
[41:09] recognized that certain things you've
[41:11] been carrying are preventing you from
[41:14] living fully in the present moment and
[41:17] you're finally ready to put them down.
[41:21] Okay guys, I know that was a lot to
[41:23] throw at you all at one time. Um, but
[41:25] thank you for bearing with me and
[41:26] listening to it. What you've been
[41:28] hearing is part of the material that
[41:31] will be uh in the sequel to The Alchemy
[41:35] of the Broken Blade. But you can get the
[41:37] Alchemy of the Broken Blade, the first
[41:38] part of this right now. You can get it
[41:41] on Amazon.com. You can get it on Barnes
[41:43] &Oble.com.
[41:44] Uh, if you want signed copies, I am
[41:47] going to uh the Barnes & Noble in
[41:50] Kingston soon. And I'm going I don't
[41:53] really travel around and do book
[41:54] signings anymore. I go to one Barnes &
[41:56] Noble in Kingston, New York, and I sign
[41:59] copies of the book there, and you can
[42:01] call them and order it, and they'll ship
[42:03] it to you anywhere in the US. I think
[42:04] they might do it to other countries,
[42:06] too. I'm not 100% positive on that, but
[42:08] I do know they'll ship them to you
[42:09] anywhere in the US. And I just go in and
[42:11] sign a few of them, and people order
[42:14] those. And then if if someone wants
[42:16] more, I go in and do some more. But
[42:18] Alchemy of the Broken Blade, you can get
[42:19] it everywhere. that you can get books
[42:21] right now. Um, this is the first part of
[42:24] it. Other thing, um, I talked whenever
[42:27] we first started about how the next way
[42:29] of the sword retreat is going to be in
[42:31] January. Uh, because I wanted something
[42:34] to look forward to after the holidays.
[42:36] You know, after the holidays every year,
[42:37] it's like we go into just just winter
[42:39] and there's nothing more to look forward
[42:40] to. You know, during this time of year,
[42:42] we got Halloween and Thanksgiving and
[42:44] Christmas and my birthday for me. you
[42:47] know, all these great things to kind of
[42:48] look forward to during the stretch of
[42:50] the year, but then when January hits, I
[42:51] always feel like there's nothing more to
[42:53] look forward to, and I wanted something
[42:54] else to look forward to, which is why I
[42:56] chose that date to do this retreat. So,
[42:59] if you want to uh join me for that, you
[43:01] can find the link on my Instagram
[43:04] account, you can find it on my Twitter
[43:06] account, you can find it on Substack, my
[43:09] Substack account, or you can look up
[43:11] Hutton Brickyards. H U T O N B R I C K Y
[43:17] A R Ds in Kingston, New York. Um, seems
[43:22] like there was one other thing I was
[43:23] going to tell you about. Oh, Patreon.
[43:25] Uh, like I said, I regret not being able
[43:27] to have the comments on on here, but if
[43:29] you want to join me where we can
[43:30] actually have back and forth
[43:31] conversations, you can ask questions,
[43:34] make comments, whatever, consider
[43:35] joining me on Patreon. I would
[43:37] appreciate it a great deal. All right,
[43:38] guys. I hope y'all are having an amazing
[43:40] Halloween. Thank you for being with me
[43:42] tonight. when you could be out doing
[43:44] probably a million other things, going
[43:45] to a show or a movie or a party. There's
[43:49] probably a million things going on for
[43:50] Halloween and you're here with me and I
[43:52] appreciate that and I don't take it for
[43:54] granted. Thank you for letting me be
[43:56] part of your life. Thank you for being
[43:57] part of my life. Thank you for your
[43:59] support, your love, and everything else
[44:01] through the years. Take care and I will
[44:04] talk to you guys back here soon. Have a
[44:06] good night.