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[0:00] Gary, I'm on my way. Today on the Mel
[0:03] Robbins podcast,
[0:04] >> Gary, a conversation that's 12 years in
[0:09] the making.
[0:10] >> Do you understand who you consume? What
[0:12] you consume is who you become.
[0:14] >> Gary Vee is the person who inspired me
[0:16] to start putting myself out there and
[0:18] online.
[0:19] >> My personal mentor, Gary Vaynerchuk, is
[0:22] [music] here. It's time to stop making
[0:24] excuses. I promise you whatever that
[0:26] you're scared of is far less scary than
[0:30] 30 years from now telling some random
[0:32] stranger dot dot dot dot dot
[0:35] >> and change your life right now.
[0:37] >> Kudos to everyone who's listening. You
[0:39] chose to consume some positivity. This
[0:41] is very important everyone. I I feel
[0:43] like I'm on to one here. So So lock in.
[0:47] >> Please help me welcome the one, the only
[0:50] Gary Veaynerchuk to the Mel Robbins
[0:52] podcast.
[0:53] >> I'm so happy to be here, Mel. Thank you.
[0:55] >> You have been an inspiration to me for
[0:58] 12 years. I would not be where I am
[1:00] today without you. And so where I want
[1:02] to start because I'm so thrilled that
[1:05] the person that's with us right now is
[1:06] going to get to be infused with your
[1:09] wisdom, your energy, the lessons from
[1:11] your life, the way you think about life.
[1:14] How might the person who's listening's
[1:16] life change if they take to heart
[1:18] everything that we're about to talk
[1:20] about today?
[1:21] >> They'll become dramatically lighter. We
[1:23] are incredibly capable of making
[1:26] mountains out of mole hills and we focus
[1:29] on dumb [ __ ] until real [ __ ] happens and
[1:31] then we recalibrate. I prefer the person
[1:34] that's listening right now enjoy life or
[1:37] understand life before something bad
[1:39] happens in it. And uh and I'm very
[1:42] focused on that and that's a lot of what
[1:44] my content and my life is about.
[1:45] >> Well, we're going to get into how you
[1:47] actually do that. But before we get into
[1:49] that, I want the person listening to
[1:52] understand a little bit about how your
[1:55] life has shaped you.
[1:56] >> Yep.
[1:56] >> You know what's interesting is I said
[1:58] before you're coming into the team, I
[1:59] said, "I've heard you for a decade say,
[2:01] I'm going to buy the Jets. [laughter]
[2:03] I'm going to buy the Jets." And I said
[2:05] to my team of almost 50 people, "How
[2:06] many people here think he's going to do
[2:08] it?" Every hand went up. And what's
[2:10] interesting is that I don't know if you
[2:13] will or won't, but what is powerful is
[2:15] that your belief that you might is
[2:18] something that other people can catch.
[2:20] >> What's even more interesting on a
[2:23] personal level is the joy of chasing it
[2:26] is dramatically more delicious than
[2:29] achieving it.
[2:29] >> Say more about that. You know, somewhere
[2:32] around my early 20s, I think I realized,
[2:36] oh shoot, I like the chase more than the
[2:39] getting it. I like the practice more
[2:41] than the trophy. I don't live for
[2:44] outside validation. I didn't use that
[2:46] term, but I I realized very early in my
[2:49] life, oh, I'm different. By the time I
[2:52] was 25, I had gone through being an
[2:55] immigrant that couldn't speak English,
[2:57] misunderstood. Um, being a ridiculously
[3:00] bad student, being misunderstood by
[3:03] parents of your friends and teachers,
[3:06] uh, innovating in my dad's liquor store,
[3:08] things that people told my dad would
[3:10] ruin his business if they if he let me
[3:12] do it. By the time I was 25, I was told
[3:15] by the world that I was wrong, wrong,
[3:17] wrong wrong wrong wrong. And everything
[3:19] was right, right, right, right right.
[3:21] And that made it very easy to live the
[3:23] last 25 years because I had it figured
[3:27] out early. And I say that from a place
[3:30] of gratitude, not audacity. Like I I
[3:33] hate the word luck because I believe the
[3:36] world likes to weaponize it as an excuse
[3:39] to why they're not doing their thing.
[3:42] But it is not lost on me the serendipity
[3:44] that got me out of the Soviet Union, got
[3:46] me to the US, gave me the mother that I
[3:48] had, gave me competitive spirit, but
[3:50] also just pure love in my heart. You
[3:53] know, I I'm 50 now. I've watched many
[3:57] young children, nephews, children,
[3:59] nieces, friends, children. Like, some
[4:02] kids are just born with some [ __ ] And
[4:04] then if they're fortunate enough that
[4:05] that those ingredients are cooked
[4:08] properly in the proper restaurant, well
[4:10] then [ __ ] gets crazy. But here's what
[4:12] I'm intoxicated by.
[4:13] >> Tell me
[4:14] >> that if the person watching right now
[4:16] did not have all the best ingredients
[4:19] DNA. Yeah.
[4:20] >> Did not have the greatest chef and sue
[4:22] chef parents were not served in the best
[4:25] restaurant, the neighborhoods and
[4:27] environments they grew up in. What I'm
[4:29] intoxicated by, why I exist in public,
[4:33] is my belief is that people are
[4:37] obnoxiously more capable of changing
[4:40] than they realize. And it's actually
[4:42] shockingly simple and the hardest thing
[4:45] in the world. [laughter]
[4:47] Shockingly simple and the hardest thing
[4:49] in the world. There were so many things
[4:50] that you just said that I want to make
[4:51] sure as you're listening you really
[4:52] heard it because when you started to do
[4:55] the cadence of misunderstood,
[4:56] misunderstood, misunderstood,
[4:59] misunderstood, the majority of people
[5:01] who feel misunderstood start to
[5:02] withdraw.
[5:03] >> Correct.
[5:04] >> And start to say something's wrong.
[5:05] >> Yes.
[5:05] >> So for the person who's listening right
[5:07] now that feels like I suck at school, I
[5:09] just got fired from a job. I want to be
[5:11] I'm so different from my family. I can't
[5:13] find somebody to date that's interested
[5:15] in me or that like I'm misunderstood,
[5:17] misunderstood. And it is like dragging
[5:20] around a lead weight. How do you flip
[5:24] that sense that the world doesn't get
[5:26] you into something that propels you?
[5:28] >> By not wanting the world to get you.
[5:31] >> Say more.
[5:32] >> You know, I'm just confused why you need
[5:34] your spouse to fully understand you. Why
[5:37] you need your mother to fully understand
[5:39] you? Why you need your [ __ ] coworker
[5:41] to fully understand you? The answer to
[5:44] your question, Mel, is being comfortable
[5:47] with being misunderstood by realizing
[5:49] someone's subjective opinion of you, who
[5:52] is not you, can never fully know you,
[5:55] not even the people that are closest to
[5:57] you. So, how could a stranger in the
[5:59] comments of an Instagram post have a
[6:01] prayer of knowing who the [ __ ] you are?
[6:04] By the way, Mel Mafia, uh, that's what I
[6:06] call you guys. Um, I apologize for the
[6:09] cursing. I'm a little bit of a Jersey
[6:10] boy. I'll try to rein it in cuz I know
[6:13] occasionally it allows someone not to
[6:15] hear me.
[6:16] >> I appreciate you saying that cuz there
[6:18] are a lot of people that listen to the
[6:19] car with littles. However, however,
[6:23] it is important that you also
[6:25] acknowledge that that is just who you
[6:27] are.
[6:29] I'm incredibly empathetic to the people
[6:31] that have historically not consumed my
[6:33] content or not followed me because if
[6:35] they in their life genuinely believe
[6:37] that cursing is atrocious and a sign of
[6:40] lack of intelligence or whatever they
[6:42] may think it is.
[6:43] >> I have the humility and the empathy and
[6:45] compassion to understand that. It's
[6:47] funny that I called it out. I tend not
[6:48] to.
[6:49] >> Mhm.
[6:49] >> But I think it comes out of just the de
[6:52] respect I have for you and what you're
[6:54] building and kind of like I know I'm
[6:57] different and you have incredible people
[6:58] on here and I know just like you are the
[7:01] exact human that was built to break
[7:05] through for someone. I know that I'm the
[7:08] exact human to break through for a lot
[7:10] of people right now. And I worry about
[7:13] the seven or nine that won't go much
[7:16] further because of the cursing. Yet, I'm
[7:18] the human on earth that is about to say
[7:20] the sentence or two that fundamentally
[7:23] changes their perspective. And the only
[7:26] thing life is is how you see it. There
[7:28] is no life. There is no real world.
[7:31] There's just your perception. There's
[7:33] just what you bring to the table. You
[7:35] were either cynical because you were
[7:37] deeply insecure or you were deeply
[7:39] optimistic because you're incredibly
[7:41] purely confident. You have your life
[7:44] experiences. You have the things you
[7:45] were told. Most people that are
[7:47] listening right now, Mel, are scared.
[7:50] >> This is something we need to talk about.
[7:52] >> So, when somebody who is listening to
[7:54] you say that the biggest problem right
[7:57] now is that people are scared. There is
[7:59] so much fear. Yes.
[8:00] >> And there are plenty of reasons in life
[8:02] to be afraid. But allowing it to
[8:05] dominate what you do next is really the
[8:08] skill that somebody can learn to flip
[8:10] from cynicism, there's nothing I can do
[8:11] to there's always something I can do.
[8:13] >> Well, there's unlimited reasons to be
[8:15] optimistic.
[8:16] >> Talk to the person who's cynical right
[8:18] now and who wants to be more optimistic,
[8:21] who wants to have courage.
[8:22] >> Stop listening to politicians.
[8:25] [laughter]
[8:26] >> Thanks for having me, everyone. Like
[8:28] that's it, Mel. Like there is nothing
[8:30] else like like do you understand who you
[8:33] consume? What you consume is who you
[8:35] become. One of the reasons I shlept here
[8:39] is because I want to honor you being a
[8:41] human being who I know has fundamentally
[8:44] made it better for people. Like I do not
[8:47] understand how people continue to be
[8:49] confused. There are two ways to build
[8:51] the biggest building in town. One is to
[8:54] just be talented enough to build the
[8:57] biggest building in town and you admire
[9:00] everyone else's buildings, even the ones
[9:02] that are even bigger than yours.
[9:04] >> Yeah.
[9:06] >> The choice that most people take, which
[9:09] is they build a crappy little building
[9:11] and they spend 100% of their time trying
[9:13] to tear down everybody else's building.
[9:14] This is shockingly hard and wildly easy.
[9:19] Algorithms. Ready?
[9:20] >> Yes.
[9:20] >> Gary, you don't get it. You always talk
[9:22] about social media. I'm so mad at you.
[9:24] It's my algorithm. Watch this. Everyone,
[9:26] you want a task at home right now? Open
[9:28] your Instagram or Tik Tok. And when you
[9:30] get a piece of content, politics,
[9:32] politics, negativity, manscaping,
[9:34] whatever, you know, whatever you got,
[9:37] literally click the buttons on the top
[9:38] right corner on Instagram or the bottom
[9:40] right corner on Tik Tok and say not
[9:42] interested.
[9:43] And keep doing that for one day. And
[9:46] then go to search and type in joy.
[9:49] Enter. and then like five or six things
[9:52] that pop up and then go back to search
[9:54] and type in happy and get some content
[9:57] and like and follow a couple things and
[9:58] this is very important. Then go to
[10:00] search and put in Garyve E and follow
[10:03] that account
[10:04] and on and on my friends the algorithm
[10:07] did not change you the algorithm exposed
[10:10] you.
[10:12] >> Oh
[10:14] it's so true. Oh, I know, Mel.
[10:16] >> For somebody who's listening, because I
[10:18] do think that you're right, and most
[10:20] people are in their heads spending all
[10:22] kinds of time either tearing themselves
[10:24] down and coming up with reasons why they
[10:26] can't.
[10:26] >> Correct.
[10:27] >> Or looking around at other people and
[10:28] using it as evidence to see why they
[10:31] can't.
[10:32] >> That's right.
[10:32] >> Or uh spending a lot of time tearing
[10:35] other people down instead of like
[10:36] spending the same amount of time lifting
[10:38] themselves up. Y
[10:40] >> how if somebody who's listening starts
[10:42] to have a moment of reckoning where
[10:43] you're like, you know, I'm kind of sick
[10:45] of this version of myself. I'm kind of
[10:46] sick of feeling like I'm stuck. I'm sick
[10:48] of being jealous of everyone else.
[10:50] >> I am living in a lot of fear. Nobody's
[10:53] going to do this for me, but nobody's
[10:54] stopping me from doing what I'm capable
[10:56] of doing. I'm the one in my own way
[10:58] >> and I'm using excuses at scale. And I
[11:01] continuously go back to my mom [ __ ] up
[11:04] when I was eight. No [ __ ] Sally. and
[11:08] like you're grown now. You're 34.
[11:11] And the the the answer is action.
[11:15] Therapy.
[11:17] Therapy is a good one. Instead of buying
[11:19] dumb [ __ ] to cover up your hurt, why
[11:22] don't you go invest it into therapy?
[11:25] Do you know how many people have BMWs
[11:27] that actually needed to go buy therapy
[11:29] sessions with that money?
[11:31] >> [laughter]
[11:31] >> Please do not use materialistic things
[11:34] to show the world you're good
[11:38] when we all know you're not
[11:41] right Mel. Yeah. You know, do you know
[11:43] why there's such a big consumer world?
[11:45] Like people buy stuff? It's because we
[11:48] use it as proxies to disguise behind the
[11:50] makeup of our materialistic things to
[11:53] not allow you to see what's actually
[11:55] happening. We have a pandemic of keeping
[11:58] up with the Joneses, not because of
[12:01] social media and we see other people
[12:03] with stuff, but because modern parenting
[12:06] left accountability
[12:08] out of the ingredients of the last 30,
[12:10] 40 years.
[12:11] >> Let's talk about that. You have two
[12:13] kids.
[12:14] >> Yes.
[12:14] >> And you're also, for as public as you
[12:16] are, I really respect the fact that
[12:18] you're very private about your personal
[12:20] life.
[12:21] >> Outrageously.
[12:22] >> Outrageously. And I would love to have
[12:25] you talk about this in the lane of
[12:28] accountability because there is a lot of
[12:31] blaming your parents, blaming the
[12:34] circumstances and there are very real
[12:35] circumstances that are very unfair.
[12:37] Correct.
[12:37] >> There's horrible things that happen to
[12:39] people. I do not believe everything
[12:41] happens for a reason. I believe [ __ ]
[12:42] happens. A lot of it's unfair. But you
[12:44] have to find a reason to move on and to
[12:47] grow because other people who've also
[12:50] been in that situation have found a way.
[12:52] And so the question becomes it is not
[12:54] impossible.
[12:55] >> Yes.
[12:55] >> Like that's important. Like to your
[12:57] point there are a lot of atrocious
[12:58] things. What about the fact that 800
[13:01] million people roughly 10% of the world
[13:03] right now cannot get a glass of clean
[13:05] water as we sit here in this room? Like
[13:08] perspective is confused out there. There
[13:10] are people that are have real alcoholic
[13:13] parents, abandoned by parents, foster
[13:15] home, other scary stuff.
[13:18] The problem is it's like it is. I mean,
[13:21] my mother is the most optimistic,
[13:23] joyful, warm human on earth. Here's my
[13:26] mother's story in a nutshell. She lost
[13:28] her mother at 5. Her mother died when
[13:30] she was 5 years old. Her father went to
[13:34] jail for 10 years when she was 9, 10
[13:37] because the Soviet Union is a really
[13:39] [ __ ] up place for the things that I
[13:41] get put on Mel's podcast for, my
[13:44] grandfather went to jail for. Like real
[13:46] [ __ ] right?
[13:48] I mean, that's a tough [ __ ] hand,
[13:53] you know, and yet incredible capacity to
[13:58] choose optimism and is more joyful and
[14:00] optimistic than anyone in our extended
[14:03] families who all quote unquote had it
[14:05] better. And by the way, as atrocious as
[14:07] that was for my mom, there are thousands
[14:09] listening now that had it even worse. I
[14:11] get that.
[14:12] >> Y
[14:13] >> the question becomes when is it not your
[14:16] parents' fault anymore? Let's start with
[14:18] that one.
[14:19] >> Mel, I'm actually asking you. Let's flip
[14:20] it. This is the guaranteed audio
[14:21] experience. At what age? Roughly, you're
[14:24] just one woman. You just have one
[14:25] subjective opinion. There's no right or
[14:27] wrong answer to this,
[14:28] >> but
[14:29] >> let's talk sister, talk to me like we're
[14:31] just walking in the backyard.
[14:32] >> We're we're on a walk.
[14:34] >> Just for fun, a general number. This is
[14:36] just the world obviously incredibly
[14:37] circumstantial. Everyone's life, but for
[14:39] fun. At what age, Mel, do you believe
[14:42] that it is no longer fun or interesting
[14:47] to just keep blaming your parents? At
[14:49] what age are you able to stand on your
[14:51] own two feet and choose who you surround
[14:55] yourself with, what you actually
[14:57] believe, how you limit your interactions
[14:59] with those parents or any other person
[15:02] that pushes negative propaganda 24/7? At
[15:06] what age are you a big girl now? Well, I
[15:10] wouldn't say it's an age. I say it's the
[15:12] moment you decide to pay for your life.
[15:14] >> That's right.
[15:15] >> There is a point of view that has been
[15:17] very helpful to me, which is
[15:19] understanding that people can only give
[15:21] you what they have to give. And people
[15:24] can only provide you with the parenting
[15:28] experience largely based on what was
[15:31] done to them.
[15:31] >> That's right. And a lot of the there's
[15:33] some real evil people out there, but
[15:35] there's also a lot of people that do bad
[15:37] things that don't know what they're
[15:39] doing.
[15:39] >> And we've got to get into a place of
[15:42] what's an inconvenience or a darn it
[15:46] versus a catastro. I mean, what people
[15:48] now deem as my parent [ __ ] me up only
[15:54] 40 years ago was like a skinned knee.
[15:58] I mean, there are people who blame their
[16:00] parents for things that were
[16:02] inconceivable.
[16:04] I mean, like missing one football game.
[16:08] Well, you missed the big game where I
[16:09] threw three touchdowns.
[16:10] >> Well, here here's the thing. Like, your
[16:12] parents did the job that they did. And
[16:16] at some point, you have to take that as
[16:19] a fact and decide what are you going to
[16:22] do next. That's it%. And are you gonna
[16:24] look back with judgment or are you gonna
[16:27] look back with understanding and a bit
[16:29] of compassion and then be an adult and
[16:33] either forgive and have a conversation
[16:36] about it or have some boundaries around
[16:38] it?
[16:39] >> Do you know what my opening line was to
[16:40] VCON 3, my big conference?
[16:42] >> Literally walked on stage 10,000 people.
[16:44] Opening line, f your grandparents.
[16:46] >> What do you mean f your grandparents?
[16:48] >> That was my opening line.
[16:49] >> Why? Because I am so tired of people
[16:52] being so mad at their mom and dad
[16:54] without taking a good look at what their
[16:55] grandparents did to mom and dad. We love
[16:57] little granny because she gives you
[16:59] cookies and gave you five bucks, but
[17:01] meanwhile Grammy screwed up your mom so
[17:03] good that you've spent your whole life
[17:05] blaming your mom. Like at what point are
[17:09] you able to understand it's not their
[17:11] fault either?
[17:14] And now Mel, let's transition the bigger
[17:16] question.
[17:17] >> Okay. What are you doing by verbalizing
[17:20] to everyone in your world that this
[17:23] happened? You're
[17:24] >> keeping it alive.
[17:25] >> Yeah. What are you asking for? You're
[17:27] asking for pity. You're asking for
[17:29] compassion. You're asking for
[17:31] enablement.
[17:32] You're creating a framework of
[17:34] entitlement. You're using it as a weapon
[17:36] to justify why not.
[17:39] Instead of going allin on I'm just not
[17:43] motivated enough right now and I've got
[17:44] to do this or that. Like once you go
[17:48] fully accountable,
[17:50] when you love yourself all the way, but
[17:53] you also have the humility to understand
[17:54] you're a human being and you just might
[17:56] suck at a lot of things. And that's
[17:58] super duper okay. Once you go there, it
[18:01] gets real light. I think what you're
[18:03] you're saying, if I give it back to you,
[18:06] is that what you see in what's holding a
[18:10] lot of people back is so much time and
[18:12] energy spent looking backwards and
[18:14] blaming versus standing in the present
[18:17] moment going this happened. It had this
[18:20] impact on me and and what am I going to
[18:24] do next? What am I going to take
[18:27] responsibility for moving forward now
[18:30] that I've acknowledged what's happened?
[18:32] I get it, but I am an adult now and it
[18:35] is time for me to figure out what do I
[18:37] want with my life. And that's why I get
[18:39] so excit, you know, people make fun of
[18:40] me about how I think about age. Yeah.
[18:42] >> As you see, people probably raz me on
[18:44] the internet like, Gary, I'm 90. And I'm
[18:46] like, you have time. They like these
[18:48] skits. Like what excites me about that
[18:50] is I do believe people somewhere between
[18:53] 25 and 45 in that kind of window can get
[18:57] to this place where they're exhausted of
[18:59] pointing fingers.
[19:02] >> Right.
[19:03] >> It took me to about 47. [laughter]
[19:05] >> Well, actually it was 41 when I woke up
[19:08] and realized nobody is coming to save my
[19:10] ass from this mess that I'm in. Not my
[19:12] husband, not my parents. It is nobody
[19:14] else's responsibility. We're in a
[19:16] gigantic hole. And since I don't see
[19:19] anybody else coming with a ladder, I
[19:22] better stop bitching and feeling sorry
[19:23] for myself and get to work.
[19:25] >> And when you go from even we and I
[19:28] assume you're bringing your husband into
[19:29] that, right?
[19:30] >> Yes.
[19:30] >> And you go into I
[19:32] >> I have to do this.
[19:33] >> Like we is good cuz that's only two.
[19:35] That's better than But when you go to I
[19:37] >> I It's not a we, it's me.
[19:38] >> But I need all you know all the people
[19:40] I'm talking to right now on the camera.
[19:42] I'm like, even if your spouse is the one
[19:43] who's like, "Let's make this invest."
[19:45] Like, what are you going to blame him or
[19:46] her forever?
[19:47] >> Well, I think that's a problem in a lot
[19:49] of relationships.
[19:49] >> No [ __ ] Why do you think I'm bringing
[19:51] it up? I'm going to say it again. If
[19:53] your husband made you buy that third
[19:55] home in South Carolina and it was a
[19:57] flop, or if your wife made you invest in
[19:59] a stock that what are you going to just
[20:01] raz her in perpetuity? What are you
[20:03] going to tell Johnny for the rest of
[20:05] your life? Our life would be better if
[20:07] you didn't make us buy that [ __ ]
[20:08] house in Miami. That's not real.
[20:12] Mel, it's not real. So, what do you do?
[20:14] Because what you're basically saying is
[20:16] you have no idea how much time and
[20:18] energy you spend blaming other people
[20:20] for the state you're in in your life.
[20:22] Whether it's people who have what you
[20:23] want or people that had a lot more
[20:26] privilege and had a better start than
[20:28] you did or it's your parents for the
[20:30] things that they didn't do or that they
[20:31] did do or it's your spouse because
[20:33] they're not showing up a certain way.
[20:35] And you're missing the single most
[20:37] important factor in your life that
[20:39] changes everything, which is you.
[20:41] >> Instead of like like envy and jealousy
[20:43] is driving me crazy. Why have you chosen
[20:47] friends to look at the three people on
[20:50] earth that are in their 20s that are
[20:53] trillionaires or who've spent a million
[20:55] dollars on plastic surgery to look
[20:57] incredible? Why are you choosing to
[20:59] shape yourself up to them? Don't you
[21:02] know there's 8.3 billion other people
[21:04] that you could shape yourself up to? And
[21:06] I'm going to say something nice and
[21:07] slow.
[21:09] If you are capable to be listening to
[21:12] the Mel Robbins podcast, if you are
[21:14] right now capable of having the time,
[21:18] whether you're on a treadmill walking
[21:19] the damn dog at driving to work, if you
[21:23] are a human, by the way, that is maybe
[21:25] potentially doing it on a phone that
[21:27] cost several hundred dollars. If you are
[21:30] even a human that is hearing these
[21:33] words,
[21:35] you have it much better than most of the
[21:36] entire world. So, how about that? How
[21:40] about not w I'm not Timothy Shalamagne.
[21:43] Like, how about 8.3 billion people? How
[21:45] about 800 million people can't get clean
[21:47] water? How about all the truth of the
[21:50] world? How about you do have it better
[21:52] than your grandma had it? How about real
[21:54] [ __ ] How about gratitude? Enough of
[21:57] this envy. There's been so much envy, so
[22:00] much jealousy as if anyone else's life
[22:04] has anything to do with you. And
[22:07] you know anything about their actual
[22:09] real life.
[22:10] >> So true.
[22:10] >> We put all these people on a pedestal
[22:12] and meanwhile that person is drinking a
[22:14] bottle of bourbon tonight cuz they can't
[22:16] deal with the pressure of the world's
[22:18] judgment because their emotional
[22:20] foundation isn't good enough.
[22:22] When are we going to lead into
[22:23] gratitude? Do you think gratitude is the
[22:27] way you flip from blame? Because I think
[22:30] a lot of people are probably leaning in
[22:31] going, "Boy, okay." Like, if you were to
[22:32] just calculate, okay, what are all the
[22:34] things I'm blaming on my childhood?
[22:37] >> That's and it's holding me back
[22:39] >> because you're dragging it with you. If
[22:41] you're still looking backward
[22:43] >> or blaming your spouse or blaming your
[22:45] boss or blaming your daughter who's
[22:47] living the life you wish you were living
[22:49] and you feel like you're doing it for
[22:51] her and no one did it for you. Blame
[22:52] blame blame blame blame blame.
[22:54] [laughter]
[22:55] >> Gratitude. And here's a big one. How
[22:57] about some humility?
[23:00] >> Can we get humility back into the game?
[23:04] Like
[23:04] >> why do people think humility is weak?
[23:07] >> I don't know. I think people think
[23:08] kindness is weak. I don't get that. No
[23:12] [ __ ] Neither do I. Like in this
[23:13] nancond, like taking myself out of the
[23:15] podcast. I'm so happy right now because
[23:17] I'm happy people listen to you. I'm
[23:19] happy people listen to me. I'm happy,
[23:21] you know, people are focusing on all the
[23:23] bad that's out there. There are so many
[23:25] outlets to get good now.
[23:27] >> Yes,
[23:28] >> there's so many. And this is the point.
[23:32] First of all, kudos to everyone who's
[23:33] listening. You chose to consume some
[23:36] positivity. You chose to consume some
[23:39] accountability.
[23:41] You may not know why you like Mel, but I
[23:43] do.
[23:44] >> Why do they like me?
[23:45] >> Cuz they're on the cusp of change.
[23:48] They're in the pregame. I'm excited.
[23:50] Like, literally, I don't know if you can
[23:51] see [laughter] these. I'm pumped for
[23:52] them. They're close,
[23:54] >> right? Yes.
[23:55] >> They're consuming you cuz they're close.
[23:57] >> Yes. And they and and you listen because
[24:02] you sense something that Gary and I know
[24:06] is true that you are capable of bananas
[24:11] extraordinary things.
[24:12] >> And let me say that real quick.
[24:13] >> You can shift your mindset.
[24:15] >> But let me say something about that
[24:16] >> for extraordinary things. Not tens of
[24:21] millions of listeners to your podcast or
[24:23] 33 businesses that you're juggling.
[24:27] The number one thing I have is not all
[24:30] the things you think I have. The number
[24:31] one thing I have is peace of mind.
[24:35] Do you know what I want for everyone? I
[24:36] don't want them to have a blue check
[24:38] mark, Mel. I don't want them to have a
[24:40] million [ __ ] followers. I don't need
[24:42] them to have a top five podcast or big
[24:45] businesses. I need them to have peace of
[24:48] mind. Do you know how many people
[24:49] listening right now should make a lot
[24:51] less money?
[24:55] They're making 240, but they don't like
[24:57] their job. They're living above their
[25:00] means. So, they need their job to
[25:01] continue to pay for their lifestyle of
[25:03] things that bring them no actual joy.
[25:06] And you know what they need to do? They
[25:07] need to simplify their life. We must get
[25:09] out of this materialistic keeping up
[25:11] with the Joneses. Now, listen. I need
[25:14] action.
[25:16] Like, like there's plenty people
[25:17] listening right now that don't need
[25:19] simplicity. I need action. I need people
[25:21] cuz I love them too much. I need the
[25:23] game. I'm too creative. It's like too
[25:25] fun. I'm a city boy. I'm a people
[25:28] person. I love everyone regardless of
[25:30] what their intent is towards me. I need
[25:32] it. Right. But if I didn't, I would no
[25:36] one on earth would know me. I would live
[25:38] in the middle of absolutely nowhere and
[25:39] I would do simple things because I'm
[25:41] comfortable in being who I actually am.
[25:45] >> That is the secret to life.
[25:46] >> Period.
[25:47] >> Are you comfortable with yourself? Are
[25:49] you proud of yourself? Peace of mind
[25:51] means you're not questioning who am I?
[25:54] What should I be doing today? What does
[25:55] this person think of me? That you know
[25:58] who you are. You know your intention.
[26:01] And I think this is really really
[26:03] important because you chase the material
[26:06] thing because you think that if you have
[26:08] the right purse or the right car or the
[26:11] right outfit on or the right house in
[26:13] the right neighborhood or you belong to
[26:14] the right club or you have your nails
[26:16] done the right way that other people are
[26:19] going to think you are a certain person
[26:21] and that
[26:22] >> is going to give you the confidence and
[26:25] peace of mind. It doesn't. It anchors
[26:27] your self-worth in someone else's
[26:29] opinion which you will never control
[26:31] which means you will always be chasing
[26:33] other people's opinions in order to get
[26:35] the validation that you can give to
[26:37] yourself.
[26:38] Yes. My do you know what my great hope
[26:40] is for 2050 to60 is that the
[26:43] advancements of technology actually
[26:45] bring us back to simplicity. I believe
[26:47] this by the way. This is one of my
[26:48] thesis of how it could go. And yeah, you
[26:52] might not have the same car. Your
[26:54] friends with husband might be just much
[26:56] more attractive than yours or whatever
[26:59] it might be. You might be a director and
[27:01] not an SVP in your company. But I can
[27:05] tell you about me, Mel. I the way I view
[27:09] people is 100%
[27:13] based on their humanity.
[27:16] The way I view do I like someone, do I
[27:18] not? Or Mel, this may interest you. This
[27:20] you may not know about me. I am wildly
[27:23] unimpressed, including myself, in
[27:26] people's business accomplishments.
[27:28] >> I really truly believe, and I'm glad
[27:30] we're lasering in on this, that the
[27:33] measure of a person is not what they
[27:36] have, it's how they treat other people.
[27:39] >> The only thing I actually live my life
[27:41] for is my funeral.
[27:44] >> [snorts]
[27:44] >> Let's go here because one of my most
[27:47] favorite things that I have ever
[27:51] seen you do or say. It is a video.
[27:55] You're going to know exactly which one
[27:56] it is as I start to speak. You are in a
[28:00] cab, I believe, and the window is down
[28:02] and you're at a stoplight and a woman
[28:04] runs over and is like, "Gary, Gary, oh
[28:07] my god, Gary, I love you. Um, you know,
[28:09] I need some motivation today. Give me
[28:12] some motivation." and you look out the
[28:13] window and you look at her and you say,
[28:15] "You're going to die."
[28:18] And she's kind of startled and I don't
[28:21] remember the exact words, but it was,
[28:23] "You're going to die. We're all going to
[28:24] die. What really matters is how do you
[28:26] want to live? How do you want to live?
[28:30] And while you're here, and while you're
[28:32] still on this side of the dirt, and
[28:33] while people that you still love can
[28:35] still walk into the room, how are you
[28:39] going to live?" Because you do not want
[28:41] to get to your funeral and go, "God, I
[28:44] wish I had."
[28:45] >> Yeah.
[28:45] >> Boy, I wish I was a better person. See,
[28:48] I am like you. I constantly think about
[28:50] that moment. I want to reflect back and
[28:53] go,
[28:53] >> "I was a good mom. I was like a good
[28:56] friend. I gave it a good run.
[28:57] >> I gave a good
[28:58] >> I gave more than I took. I can I I I I
[29:02] scratched the itches." You know, I
[29:06] I'm very passionate about what I'm about
[29:08] to say. I think we've lost our way with
[29:10] the elderly.
[29:12] I think the last 30, 40 years of
[29:15] technology advancements have made us
[29:17] make fun of grandparents because they
[29:19] don't know how to use OpenClaw or, you
[29:23] know, Instant Messenger or Snapchat. And
[29:26] I think we've really done a disservice
[29:29] to ourselves by misunderstanding
[29:34] what true wisdom is. A hundred years
[29:36] ago, the thought of disrespecting an
[29:38] elder was as foreign as you can imagine.
[29:42] Um, I like tactics sometimes. I got a
[29:45] weird one, everyone. This is a big one,
[29:47] actually. It's a very left field one.
[29:48] I'm I promise you, I've literally never
[29:50] heard anyone else get hot on this one,
[29:52] so I like bringing it up. If you can
[29:55] volunteer five hours to a retirement
[29:58] home in your general area, like
[30:00] literally call them, email them, be
[30:02] like, "Hey, was listening to Mel's
[30:04] podcast." Like super weird, you might
[30:06] think, but like is there any way for me
[30:07] to like give 5 hours?
[30:11] So much good will happen in that 5
[30:13] hours. First of all, a lot of people in
[30:16] those places are quite lonely,
[30:18] >> unfortunately. And really, you're right.
[30:19] you like I see like even saying it like
[30:21] coming out of my mouth I was like and
[30:23] then you're and I know a lot of people
[30:24] just went right it's just the way it is.
[30:27] It's really tough. So that breaks my
[30:30] heart and you would be doing a real
[30:32] mitzvah, a real gift, a real nice thing
[30:34] like talking to a 91year-old woman about
[30:37] her life will bring her in incredible
[30:40] joy of just companionship. But here's a
[30:43] little secret. It's going to do a lot
[30:45] more for you. And let me tell you, as
[30:48] someone who has gone out of his way to
[30:49] sit with people in their 80s on planes
[30:52] and at airports and in random moments in
[30:55] my life,
[30:57] the number one thing everyone listening
[30:59] to this podcast wants to avoid is
[31:02] regret.
[31:04] If anything comes out of this podcast,
[31:06] if one person, if one of you, if one of
[31:09] you
[31:11] decide to do something tomorrow, jump
[31:13] out of a plane skydiving, uh quit your
[31:16] job and become a dog walker and live
[31:18] more humbly, um get out of a toxic
[31:21] relationship,
[31:22] >> yeah,
[31:23] >> get out of regret. Do something
[31:25] tomorrow. Tomorrow. Do something
[31:27] tomorrow. This is probably this you're
[31:30] probably consuming this right as the
[31:32] fall you know the seasons change right
[31:34] everyone in your life and in real life
[31:36] we're coming out of summer like we're in
[31:39] the go time it's September energy it's
[31:41] football season tomorrow tomorrow do
[31:46] something that's been sitting in your
[31:47] tummy for a day a year and most likely a
[31:51] decade Mel and just do it actually I
[31:54] promise you whatever that you're scared
[31:56] of is far less scary than 30 years from
[32:01] now telling some random stranger that
[32:03] looks like Gary that you the worst
[32:06] sentence Mel is three words I wish I dot
[32:11] dot dot dot dot and my great joy
[32:16] is that I don't live that way 400
[32:20] trillion to one Mel
[32:23] >> 400 trillion to one my friends the
[32:27] current scientific I'm no scientist. I
[32:29] got Fs inside. So here goes.
[32:31] >> But what I've been able to consume
[32:33] modern scientists that are way above my
[32:35] pay grade currently have the likelihood
[32:38] of becoming a human being at 400
[32:41] trillion to one
[32:42] >> that you are you
[32:43] >> that you are born. Mom could have went
[32:46] for another glass of wine before it went
[32:48] down and the whole game would have been
[32:50] different and you would not be you. Like
[32:51] it is a it is for miracle is
[32:53] disrespectful to how impossible it is to
[32:56] have a life. So you're going to mope
[32:58] around your whole life. Let me get this
[33:00] straight. You've won the ultimate
[33:02] lottery of the universe of the actual
[33:04] universe. And we've decided we're going
[33:07] to mope and cry about dumb [ __ ]
[33:10] And here's the best part. You don't like
[33:12] it? Go change the room.
[33:17] Right? You don't like it? Change the
[33:19] room. You don't like a relationship?
[33:21] Change the house. You don't like your
[33:22] boss, change the office.
[33:24] >> You don't like your mindset, change it.
[33:26] >> Consume [ __ ] like this.
[33:27] >> Yeah. You don't like what's showing up
[33:29] on social media? Change what you follow.
[33:31] >> The algorithm is exposing who you
[33:33] actually are.
[33:34] >> It's so true.
[33:35] >> And you know, listen, friends, the
[33:38] number one thing that's holding so many
[33:40] of you back is your lack of humility.
[33:44] I'm telling you, you my friends, I'm
[33:45] begging you. I'm like nose to Mike. I'm
[33:48] begging you.
[33:51] Lean into these old school values.
[33:53] Humility, civility, like kindness
[33:55] towards stren like open the door for
[33:57] someone. Smile. Do you know how many
[33:58] people I smile at, Mel?
[34:00] >> Everybody.
[34:01] >> You should see me in an airport. I'm a
[34:02] I'm I'm like si it's like a joke. I I
[34:05] don't even know like you know and now
[34:07] people know who I am. So it was a lot
[34:08] more fun back in the day because you
[34:10] know like no one you're just a goofy guy
[34:12] with a big smile,
[34:13] >> right? And like and by the way a lot of
[34:15] people smile back and they need it. And
[34:16] then I would say this.
[34:19] >> I think people like myself, like you, I
[34:23] believe happiness has done a bad job.
[34:25] Let me explain.
[34:27] I think the last decade unhappiness
[34:31] has been amazing at marketing.
[34:35] That the people that are unhappy are
[34:38] doing a great job. They're taking time
[34:40] to go around the internet, look at
[34:42] people's clips, allow themselves to get
[34:45] triggered, and then leave nasty
[34:47] comments. They're working. It is a
[34:50] full-time job to leave negative
[34:51] comments.
[34:52] >> I believe happiness is doing a bad job.
[34:54] >> I believe there are not enough of us.
[34:56] And Mel, I'm going to say something
[34:57] right now that's really powerful.
[34:59] There's a lot of us, but they're quiet.
[35:03] They are quiet because they're not at
[35:05] the full place yet where they're willing
[35:07] to deal with the ridicule and the
[35:09] judgment for the bigger purpose.
[35:13] I didn't deal with any issues in high
[35:17] school or junior high around trying to
[35:20] fit in. Like I was incredibly well-liked
[35:22] because of how, you know, my personality
[35:24] is my personality. Peer pressure was
[35:26] non-existent. I never compromised my
[35:29] morals or who I was in junior high or
[35:31] high school. I'm definitely not going to
[35:33] [ __ ] do it as an adult.
[35:35] >> So, for somebody though who is crippled
[35:37] by other people's opinions and I
[35:39] remember when I first started putting
[35:40] myself out there online, I was
[35:42] absolutely terrified of what my friends
[35:44] were going to think.
[35:45] >> I was I felt cringey as hell. And it is
[35:50] human nature to post, then to check how
[35:53] many people, then to question what you
[35:54] post, then to go down and you've got a
[35:56] couple likes, and then see who's not
[35:58] liking it, and then look at the one
[36:00] comment that is the weird emoji, and
[36:03] then you wonder what they were actually
[36:05] thinking when they put the weird emoji,
[36:07] and then laser focus on the thing that's
[36:09] negative instead of focusing on the
[36:12] thing that's positive. And I think that
[36:14] habit and instinct to go to what's wrong
[36:18] keeps so many people from leaning in and
[36:21] experimenting because you say Gary life
[36:24] shrinks and expands in proportion to
[36:27] your willingness to take risks and try
[36:29] new things. And for most people putting
[36:32] yourself out there whether it's posting
[36:35] online or changing your career or
[36:37] starting to exercise or starting that
[36:39] Etsy shop is freaking terrifying. Yes,
[36:42] because their entire framework of how
[36:44] they see life is predicated on other
[36:46] people's opinions, everybody but them
[36:49] own selves.
[36:50] >> So, how do you stop caring about what
[36:51] other people think?
[36:52] >> Practice.
[36:53] >> How do I practice?
[36:55] >> By doing it. You're looking at a boy who
[36:58] literally was scared shitless to swim
[37:01] and ride a bike. Like there was a lot of
[37:03] things I was scared of
[37:06] that I think I just got it all out of
[37:09] the system by the time I was 15, 16, 17,
[37:12] 18, somewhere in that range.
[37:13] >> Okay. So for the 57y old or the 27y old
[37:16] or the 37y old,
[37:17] >> let me give you the big one. Parents, if
[37:19] you have a child that gets bad grades,
[37:22] I'm going to say something weird that
[37:24] I'm I don't even know if I'm right,
[37:27] wrong, left, right, but I'm telling you,
[37:30] there's some real value. I see so many
[37:34] people so many people now that are
[37:36] scared right now were too good of
[37:38] students. They drew too much in the
[37:40] line. They get validation from the
[37:43] outside every 90 days from a teacher.
[37:46] A+, B+, A minus. I I think there's a lot
[37:50] there. And so to answer your question,
[37:53] practice.
[37:54] You've got to get used to get ridiculed
[37:57] so much, get judged so much, get pushed
[38:01] back so much that you can't hear it
[38:04] anymore.
[38:07] What's interesting is that if you really
[38:09] think about the stepping up to the line,
[38:14] like I I feel like you and I our the our
[38:18] philosophy in life could be explained by
[38:21] the Nike tagline just do it. And the
[38:25] most people don't understand the most
[38:27] powerful word of those three words. It's
[38:30] just because if their uh tagline had
[38:32] been do it, that's not that inspiring.
[38:34] The just
[38:37] is so powerful because it honors this
[38:41] very human and universal moment of
[38:44] hesitation. You said that the person
[38:46] that's listening right now is on the
[38:48] cusp.
[38:49] >> Yes. I I believe that
[38:50] >> of something. You have gotten up out of
[38:53] the stands. You've been watching a game.
[38:55] You're now standing there on the
[38:58] sideline of the pickup basketball court
[39:01] >> and you are hesitating.
[39:04] That just is an acknowledgment that the
[39:07] hesitation is normal. The hesitation is
[39:12] what you feel right before you push
[39:15] through.
[39:16] >> Can I use that analogy,
[39:17] >> please? This is very important everyone.
[39:19] I I feel like I'm on to one here. So So
[39:22] lock in.
[39:23] If I went on a basketball court right
[39:25] now,
[39:25] >> y I'm a decent little player, but let's
[39:28] say this was just a really high level
[39:29] game and I sucked and the other nine
[39:33] people really went there of trying to
[39:35] make me feel bad about it. There's some
[39:37] there's something in me that asks them
[39:41] in return a very simple question which
[39:43] is like you are correct. You nine are
[39:46] better at basketball than I am. But now
[39:50] I have a question for you. Are you a
[39:52] nicer boy than I am? Are you as good at
[39:55] making money as I am? Do you know how to
[39:58] make social media content as well as I
[39:59] do? Do you understand what live shopping
[40:01] is and how much that can change your
[40:02] nine persons lives today? Why have we
[40:05] gotten into a place where one or two or
[40:08] three things that you're not as good at
[40:10] are eating up all the oxygen? My
[40:13] friends, every one of you is great at
[40:15] something.
[40:16] >> It's true. I had a I have a great friend
[40:18] Nate who was my admin for a long time,
[40:20] my co-founder in Empathy Wines, now
[40:22] works in the golfing industry. He was my
[40:24] admin when I had my son and we got to
[40:27] play tennis a bunch cuz I had a couple
[40:29] weeks off.
[40:30] >> You're a tennis player?
[40:31] >> Yeah, I hack a little.
[40:31] >> I kind of see in whites. Okay.
[40:33] >> So I we would play one sack cuz I'd want
[40:37] to go home back to this to the boy and
[40:39] like d and twice in that summer he was
[40:43] up 51 and I won. came back and won 75
[40:46] and 76.
[40:48] Couple things. One, it's because when I
[40:51] was down 5-1, I started to change the
[40:54] energy of the court. I started to
[40:56] verbalize towards him and to myself.
[40:58] >> What did you say?
[41:00] >> The first time I just started talking of
[41:02] like, Nate, I have a feeling I'm going
[41:03] to come back.
[41:05] Like, it's crazy what verbalization
[41:07] does.
[41:07] >> Yes.
[41:08] >> It And then sports is wild. Life is
[41:10] sports. It's momentum. Right now,
[41:11] people, there's a 39-year-old woman
[41:13] right now listening to this, and it's
[41:15] just not been going well. And literally,
[41:18] one point, aka one action she takes
[41:22] tomorrow changes the whole calculus of
[41:24] the game, and her next 50 years are
[41:25] epic. Do you know how intoxicating that
[41:27] is to me?
[41:28] >> Oh, I love this, too. I love that you're
[41:29] one decision away, one action from a
[41:32] completely different life.
[41:33] >> So, anyway, I beat him.
[41:35] >> Okay.
[41:36] >> And then the second time, I'm just like,
[41:37] Nate, you know, this is about to happen
[41:38] again. And it did for years. when we
[41:41] would be together, I would bring up
[41:44] these two comebacks to raz him a little
[41:47] bit and like boy talk in business
[41:49] settings and different things and he
[41:51] would always eat it. And finally I
[41:53] turned to him and said, "Nate," like
[41:54] after nine times using this on him, I
[41:57] looked at him and said, "Nate, the next
[41:58] time I [ __ ] say that, you look me
[42:00] dead in the face and ask me what my
[42:02] handicap is cuz he's a remarkable
[42:05] golfer. Scratch." and I played nine
[42:07] times in my life.
[42:10] Everybody's good at something.
[42:12] And that something me might be you're
[42:15] just a nice person. And I would argue in
[42:17] Gary Veaynerchuk's scale of life, being
[42:21] a good human is way ahead of 10 million
[42:24] followers and $10 million in cash. And
[42:27] you may not believe me because you don't
[42:29] know me, but that's because you just
[42:32] don't know me. I want to circle back
[42:34] because you told that story for a
[42:36] reason. And the reason why you told that
[42:38] story is because you just gave the tool
[42:41] and the tactic that gets you off the
[42:44] sideline.
[42:44] >> That's right.
[42:45] >> Because as you're standing there,
[42:46] whether the sideline for you is I'm
[42:49] taking the real estate exam, I'm
[42:51] quitting this job. I'm leaving this
[42:53] relationship. I am going to learn how to
[42:55] make money online and do live shopping.
[42:57] Yes, I am. When you're standing on that
[43:01] line and the just do it and the
[43:02] hesitation is building, the only one
[43:06] criticizing you is you. And when you
[43:09] start to smack talk yourself, I'm doing
[43:13] the damn thing. I know I'm scared. I
[43:14] know it feels weird. Watch me make a
[43:16] comeback. Watch me change my life. It
[43:19] changes the trajectory of your life
[43:21] because now instead of arguing against
[43:23] yourself, which is what's creating the
[43:24] hesitation, by the way,
[43:26] >> nobody else in your life is going,
[43:28] "Don't you dare do that thing."
[43:29] >> Of course,
[43:30] >> it's you. It's heartbreaking. Don't you
[43:32] think it's heartbreaking?
[43:33] >> Yes. And let me paint another picture if
[43:35] you allow me.
[43:36] >> Live shopping. Live shopping. Obsessed.
[43:39] >> I know you're obsessed. So, explain what
[43:40] live shopping is. Is it's QVC on on
[43:42] social
[43:43] >> social media. That's right. Not
[43:44] complicated.
[43:45] >> Yes.
[43:45] >> It is. Go on TikTok right now and scroll
[43:47] for a while. inevitably within your
[43:49] first 15 scrolls, somebody is literally
[43:51] instead of a piece of content, there's
[43:53] somebody who's actually live selling
[43:55] normally some chachkas that you don't
[43:57] need. Okay. [laughter]
[43:58] >> But it is Mel exactly where social media
[44:02] was.
[44:03] >> You know, you you said you stumbled on
[44:05] me 14 years ago, so we're talking 12
[44:07] 2012.
[44:08] >> Yes. 2012.
[44:09] >> I had already been making content about
[44:11] social for five full years every day.
[44:13] >> No kidding.
[44:14] >> Social social TV. Yes.
[44:16] >> Yeah. Yeah, Wine Liberty TV was 06. By
[44:18] '07, I'm making content of like you can
[44:20] change your life on social, everyone can
[44:22] do this. YouTube, Twitter, Facebook.
[44:24] Then a year later, I write this book. It
[44:25] comes out a year later,09. That really
[44:28] puts me on where live shopping is right
[44:31] this second is exactly where social was
[44:34] in 2014.
[44:35] >> Okay,
[44:35] >> people know it. We've accepted that it's
[44:38] out there. Y,
[44:39] >> you've heard of it. People know what Tik
[44:41] Tok shop is. People maybe have heard of
[44:43] whatot. People have seen the headlines.
[44:45] Mhm.
[44:46] >> It's not like everyone who's listening
[44:47] is like, "What is that?" Like, they
[44:49] might be like, "What is that?" But also,
[44:50] a lot of people listening right now
[44:51] like, "Oh, I know what that is.
[44:52] >> I know what that is. It's the shop now
[44:53] button. It's this."
[44:54] >> And a lot of people think they've
[44:55] already missed it. Like, "Oh, darn." Or
[44:57] like, "I don't get it."
[44:58] >> Okay, this is a big theme. Now, as
[44:59] you're listening to Gary right now, I
[45:01] want you to pay attention because he may
[45:03] be talking about live shopping. This is
[45:05] what's meant for you. This notion of I
[45:08] missed it. I'm too late. I I I missed
[45:11] the window. Somebody else is doing it
[45:13] now. I can't do it. This There's too
[45:15] many people selling perfumes already on
[45:17] shop shopping. I can't crazy.
[45:20] >> But because of out there, your internal
[45:23] dialogue goes not me. And a lot of times
[45:25] this sounds like I'm too old. I'm too
[45:28] late. There's too many other people. And
[45:31] you're about to say you're wrong. Not
[45:33] only you're wrong, we represent it. I
[45:37] I've been podcasting since 2007. From
[45:40] 200 when was CO 19? from 2014 to 19. I
[45:45] had a top 100 podcast. Mine was
[45:47] different. It was ripping audio out of
[45:49] things that I were doing. And in 2
[45:51] seconds, because you did it better, it
[45:55] didn't matter what how many years of a
[45:58] head start.
[45:58] >> Do you want to know something crazy
[45:59] though, Gary? In 2018,
[46:01] >> Yes.
[46:02] >> I remember seeing your podcast. I
[46:04] remember seeing other people's podcasts.
[46:07] I wanted to do a podcast because I had
[46:10] gotten my start in the media business by
[46:12] hosting a local radio show Saturday
[46:14] mornings here in Boston. You know what I
[46:15] told myself as I'm standing on the
[46:16] sideline watching your ass do your
[46:18] podcast and I'm feeling the just do it
[46:20] hesitation. Oh my god. I said, "Well,
[46:22] Gary's already done it. So, the
[46:23] motivation and the, you know, that kind
[46:26] of thing that I want to do, it's already
[46:28] taken. It would be another 6 years
[46:33] before I stopped talking myself out of
[46:36] it and actually did it.
[46:38] >> How about this? How about in this
[46:40] podcast I said very clearly there are
[46:44] 10,000 listeners
[46:47] that are nice people too and want good
[46:49] for others that actually can do it.
[46:52] >> Of course.
[46:52] >> But you know how crazy that is? Just
[46:55] this listener group, there's 10,000
[46:58] people that can start right now. They're
[47:00] in dead zero. We I'm
[47:02] >> Everybody starts at dead zero.
[47:04] >> No [ __ ] Sherlock. But and in a year
[47:07] they could have a totally different
[47:08] life.
[47:09] >> The actual message to the person
[47:12] listening is there is something that you
[47:16] are on the cusp of. There is something
[47:18] you are amazing at. And the more you sit
[47:21] around and watch everybody else do it,
[47:24] the more you are gonna rot inside
[47:26] because you're not doing anything.
[47:27] >> The more you get your two index fingers
[47:29] and put them in your ears and you can't
[47:31] hear others and you take these risks and
[47:33] do things, the more likely your life
[47:35] will be joyful. You are literally I'm
[47:38] thinking about this woman right now. I
[47:39] could just see her. You're not going to
[47:41] do this [clears throat] because you go
[47:42] on TikTok and you sell something. You're
[47:45] concerned about the looks of the fellow
[47:47] moms when you drop off your junior high
[47:50] daughter because you for some reason
[47:53] value if they think that you're doing it
[47:56] because you don't have enough money or
[47:57] all these
[47:58] >> or you're trying to be an influencer.
[48:00] >> You're stuck in sixth grade. And my
[48:02] thing is when the alpha of your group
[48:05] because you're not comes up to you and
[48:07] says, "Hey Mel, saw your little Tik Tok
[48:10] thing. Like what's going on? Is John not
[48:12] bringing enough money home? you guys
[48:13] need a couple bucks, we're happy to give
[48:15] you a couple of dollars. When she goes
[48:17] there,
[48:18] my brain goes to that basketball game
[48:21] and you say to Susan or Sally McGee or
[48:24] Joselyn, "Hey, Joss, how about X, Y, and
[48:27] Z?" Because the thought that Jocelyn,
[48:30] the alpha that's going to raz you, has
[48:33] everything perfect
[48:36] is insanity. Well, the other thing
[48:38] that's insanity is that you're allowing
[48:41] another person's opinion to stop you
[48:45] from living your life.
[48:46] >> And this goes to regret, Mel.
[48:47] >> And it goes to you're going to die.
[48:49] >> That's right.
[48:49] >> And is the eulogies at your funeral
[48:51] going to be well, she had all these
[48:54] dreams in her heart, but she was afraid
[48:55] of Joseline.
[48:56] >> That's right.
[48:57] >> And so instead, she kind of lived a
[49:00] small thing and didn't take any risks
[49:02] and lived with a lot of regret. And
[49:05] really, you know, at the end, Jocelyn
[49:07] moved on to a different friend group,
[49:08] but she thought a lot about how she
[49:10] should have done it, and then she beat
[49:11] herself up about regret.
[49:13] >> That's right.
[49:14] >> And so, if we've learned anything in
[49:15] this podcast, it's [ __ ] Joselyn.
[49:18] [laughter]
[49:20] I mean, like really though, like
[49:21] friends, when are And again, this is
[49:23] what intoxicates me about being here.
[49:26] You are not choosing as a human being to
[49:28] listen to this podcast over tuning into
[49:31] CNN and Fox and scaring yourself
[49:33] >> or celebrity like interviews or whatever
[49:36] >> or the rec reunion show of like how and
[49:39] by the way all of that's fine like I
[49:41] watch sports like that doesn't mean
[49:44] anything. It's an escapism. It brings me
[49:46] joy. It's a balance to all the other
[49:48] stuff.
[49:49] >> But I know this. If you've decided to
[49:53] listen to this podcast, you're close.
[49:56] You're I I can't get over this. This is
[49:59] what keeps running in my head. I know
[50:00] they're close. I know it
[50:02] >> because I've lived it my whole life also
[50:04] the last 20 years. People that consume
[50:06] my stuff are close to action.
[50:08] >> And here's you want it. Like you don't
[50:10] pass time listening to this. You make it
[50:12] because there is something in you that
[50:15] you know needs to be unearthed. and you
[50:18] listen to this because you're looking
[50:19] for the the encouragement. You're
[50:21] looking for somebody like Gary who has
[50:24] been there and who does this every day
[50:26] to say you can do this, but you have to
[50:29] stop listening to everybody else's
[50:31] opinion. You have to stop letting fear
[50:33] stand in your way. It is about action
[50:36] talk.
[50:36] >> And it's hard. By the way, by the way,
[50:38] listen friends, I know we Mel and I have
[50:40] been like really jamming like a rock
[50:42] band in our garage for an hour on this
[50:44] one thing. Listen to me friends. It is
[50:47] not lost on me on how hard this is. When
[50:50] you are fully bought in to other
[50:52] people's opinions, you've probably been
[50:54] there for 20 to 30 years to just be
[50:56] like, "Oh, yeah, Gary and Mel like like
[50:58] are ranting now and I'm going to do it."
[51:00] It's not quote unquote that easy. And
[51:02] yet it is. And I will say it like I can
[51:06] speak from personal experience. At some
[51:08] point I just jumped in the pool. You
[51:11] know, at some point you're just going to
[51:13] jump. You just are. And I here's my big
[51:16] one. Here's my big one. Tactically, you
[51:19] need to start surrounding yourself with
[51:20] people that are cheering for you to jump
[51:23] in the pool, not making fun of you for
[51:24] not being in the pool.
[51:26] >> How do you do that when in the physical
[51:28] world they're not around you? Cuz I get
[51:30] we get a lot of questions about this. I
[51:31] bet you do. So, how do you build the
[51:34] cheering group online? Yes.
[51:35] >> Ready? When Mel posts on Instagram,
[51:39] reply to other people's replies to her
[51:41] post and start becoming friends. All of
[51:42] you, Mel Mafia, start becoming friends
[51:45] with each other in Mel's comments.
[51:48] Here's what's going to happen. Mel,
[51:49] Sally reads her all the comments from
[51:52] your post. She finds Kristen's comment
[51:54] that she associates with. She replies,
[51:57] "Kristen, I couldn't agree with you
[51:59] more." She also clicks Kristen's profile
[52:02] and looks at her profile and says, "PS,
[52:04] your dog is so cute." Got it. We're
[52:07] putting a little effort into positivity.
[52:09] >> Yes. Okay. Kristen is just a regular
[52:11] good old Kristen. She's not accustomed
[52:13] to people liking her comment and
[52:15] replying to it. She sees it in her
[52:17] notification. She then goes looks. She's
[52:20] on the receiving end of love and warmth.
[52:22] She reads that comment. She looks at the
[52:25] first person's comment and says, "Oh my
[52:27] god, I love your backyard." You know
[52:29] what happens next? One of them DMs each
[52:32] other. You know what happens next? That
[52:34] goes on for a couple of weeks. You know
[52:35] what happens next? A phone call, a Zoom.
[52:38] You know what happens next? They
[52:40] actually meet in person. I love this.
[52:43] Our slogan in Befriend Friends is
[52:44] strangers become acquaintances,
[52:46] acquaintances become friends, and
[52:48] friends become family.
[52:50] I'm obsessed with this. Do you know why
[52:52] I love collectibles and believe it's a
[52:54] huge trend and that it's about to join
[52:56] fashion and sports and music as a
[52:59] lifestyle genre? Because collectibles,
[53:02] you don't need the cardboard of a
[53:04] baseball card that's worth $2 million.
[53:05] It's worth nothing. You don't need the
[53:07] pieces of paper of a comic book that
[53:09] ends up being worth $10,000. The actual
[53:11] intrinsic value is nothing. You
[53:13] definitely don't need collectibles. It
[53:14] is not a necessity. The only necessity
[53:17] about collectibles is community. Do you
[53:20] know why sports works? It's something
[53:22] that's not the most important thing in
[53:24] the world that brings everyone together
[53:27] and we're talking about the same thing.
[53:30] Do you know why music works? You all
[53:32] like you. It's It's tribalism on
[53:35] something that's positive. Do you know
[53:38] what Comic Con looks like? Oh my god. If
[53:40] you wear a Spider-Man outfit and someone
[53:42] else loves Spider-Man, these are two
[53:44] strangers that hug it out like they're
[53:45] long lost best friends. Collectibles are
[53:48] important because when I go to the trade
[53:50] show in Chicago for 4 days, hundreds of
[53:53] thousands of people, we just all like
[53:55] cardboard with athletes on it. Right.
[53:57] >> I want to take this because there is
[53:58] something about your life that you love.
[54:00] needle pointing, gardening, like it
[54:02] could be tractors pulling, it could be
[54:05] anything. People around you
[54:07] misunderstand you.
[54:09] >> You can find a community of people that
[54:11] are in it. And if you put yourself
[54:13] intentionally in it, get up to the line.
[54:15] Just do it. Hesitate. Hesitate. I'm
[54:17] doing it. And you jump into that
[54:19] community. You now feel lifted up.
[54:22] >> Mel, this whole little rant is why I
[54:24] believe social media is the greatest,
[54:25] not the worst. Everybody has become
[54:28] infatuated with talking about all the
[54:30] bad of social. You said something very
[54:32] important to earlier. You said for the
[54:34] people here who can't physically find it
[54:36] around them.
[54:37] >> Yes.
[54:37] >> They were in a neighborhood, all their
[54:39] family members negative Nelly's. All
[54:42] their friend group cynical cats. The
[54:45] fact that they can open their phone and
[54:47] comment in Mel's Instagram posts and
[54:50] find her people. friends, all of you
[54:53] that love this podcast, the biggest
[54:54] mistake you're doing is not interacting
[54:56] with each other in Mel's comments.
[54:59] >> That is a huge gift. Me and
[55:02] >> it's actually the number one thing that
[55:03] I want to happen with content. I want
[55:05] one of the things that's not happening
[55:07] is I want everyone to start using the
[55:09] comments like Facebook groups
[55:12] >> rather than talking to me and commenting
[55:14] to me. Comment to each other.
[55:15] >> Yes. Cuz it's bigger than us.
[55:17] >> Yes.
[55:17] >> What we do for a living is so
[55:19] uncomfortably bigger than us. I don't
[55:22] think it's about me at all.
[55:23] >> Nor do I.
[55:24] >> I want to ask you some rapid fire
[55:26] questions because this is what people
[55:28] when you know people are looking for
[55:31] advice from you online. These are the
[55:32] top things people ask you.
[55:34] >> Okay.
[55:34] >> What's one thing the person listening
[55:36] can do today to build self-confidence?
[55:41] >> Make a video that tells everybody all
[55:42] their shortcomings.
[55:43] >> What? Mel, everything is the last scene
[55:46] of 8 Mile. Eminem's movie. Eminem's
[55:49] movie. 8 Mile. The last scene is a
[55:51] battle rap. Eminem goes first, which is
[55:54] actually a disadvantage in battle rap.
[55:56] So what does he do? He flips the script.
[55:58] He makes fun of himself the entire time.
[56:02] And then at the tail end, he goes, "But
[56:05] I know something about you." To
[56:06] Clarence, I believe the number one thing
[56:10] that most people watching or listening
[56:12] to this podcast should do is make a
[56:14] video and tell the world what they suck
[56:16] at.
[56:20] Wow.
[56:21] >> It is the great liberating piece of
[56:23] content that is sitting on the
[56:25] fingertips of society that no one's
[56:27] doing because once you take control of
[56:29] it, they don't have control of it.
[56:32] >> Oh, the thing you're afraid to say
[56:34] actually owns you.
[56:36] >> Owns your [ __ ] ass. It's your jail.
[56:40] Almost everyone is not posting because
[56:43] of something like that. And almost
[56:45] everybody is not posting because they
[56:47] think there's a perfect thing to post.
[56:50] >> Correct.
[56:50] >> And the only thing to post is the thing
[56:53] you're afraid to say.
[56:54] >> I'm brand new at posting music videos
[56:57] and I'm scared to death to do this. And
[56:59] some of you may think this sucks. And
[57:01] I've been talking myself out of it for
[57:03] 17 months, but here goes.
[57:06] >> And everybody's not posting. And I mean
[57:08] everybody. Almost no one's actually
[57:10] posting. And they're all not posting.
[57:11] You know why? They like their little
[57:13] facade. They're safe in their fakeness.
[57:19] They want everyone to think it's
[57:20] awesome. Johnny and me are doing great.
[57:23] My kids are perfect. Everyone's [ __ ]
[57:25] great. No one's great. And that's what's
[57:28] great. [laughter]
[57:29] Everyone's got something. Gez.
[57:32] >> What's the piece of advice you would
[57:33] give to somebody who wants to start a
[57:36] business? And what's the worst?
[57:38] >> The best advice is are you actually
[57:40] capable? You know, I got scared. You
[57:43] know, I am really one of the proud
[57:44] things I am is I definitely feel like
[57:46] I'm in a very small group of people that
[57:48] made being a business person or
[57:50] entrepreneur cool 20 years ago. It feels
[57:52] really neat, you know, like
[57:53] >> Yeah, you inspired. So, what does that
[57:55] feel like to know that you've inspired
[57:57] millions and millions and millions of
[57:59] people around the world to lean in,
[58:02] start, change your life, start a
[58:03] business?
[58:04] >> Well, you know, it's so funny. You
[58:05] represent something even cooler which is
[58:06] I got to do it so early that so many
[58:09] people came along were inspired by me
[58:11] that have inspired more people than even
[58:13] I did.
[58:14] >> It feels so good. All I want is the
[58:16] world to wake up.
[58:19] >> That's all I want.
[58:20] >> And what?
[58:21] >> And realize it's awesome.
[58:24] >> Like it is. Now it might not be awesome
[58:27] right now because you're $80,000 in
[58:29] debt. Your marriage is falling apart.
[58:31] Like your kid is struggling. It's but it
[58:34] is like this is the brain [ __ ] It's
[58:36] awesome because you have a chance to
[58:38] change it.
[58:40] >> I think the big mistake that people make
[58:42] is thinking that there is some perfect
[58:45] life. There is some life where you're
[58:46] going to be happy all the time and that
[58:48] that's the point of life. And the goal
[58:50] is not perfection or happiness. It's
[58:53] aliveness.
[58:54] >> What's perfect? By whose [ __ ]
[58:56] definition?
[58:58] >> So when you say awesome, life is
[59:00] awesome. I think what you're saying is
[59:02] you don't actually have to feel like
[59:04] it's awesome for you to call your life
[59:07] beautiful and good.
[59:09] >> Mel, the New York Knicks. Do you know
[59:12] how much joy I still feel and most of
[59:14] New York City feels about what happened
[59:16] a couple months ago? Do you understand
[59:18] that the Knicks were losing by 29 points
[59:21] late in an NBA Finals and no team had
[59:24] ever done it before? And guess what? We
[59:26] did. There is someone right now who's
[59:28] down 29 points. down 29 points in the
[59:31] fourth quarter and can win. Do you know
[59:34] how cool that is? Do you know how
[59:35] awesome that is? Everything's gone wrong
[59:38] and one smart decision.
[59:41] But it starts with this is on me. And
[59:44] this is where the politicians have been
[59:46] brilliant. This is where the bosses have
[59:47] been brilliant. And this is where the
[59:49] parents have been brilliant. They've
[59:51] weaponized and manipulated their
[59:54] subjects into thinking they can help
[59:57] them. Mel, do you know what's so really
[59:59] cool?
[1:00:00] >> Tell me.
[1:00:00] >> I don't think I can help anyone.
[1:00:03] >> I do not believe that Gary Vee content
[1:00:05] or me the human can help anyone, but I
[1:00:09] can help them realize that they can help
[1:00:10] themselves.
[1:00:11] >> Correct. So, if someone's looking for a
[1:00:13] job right now, Yes.
[1:00:14] >> whether they lost it or they're in a new
[1:00:16] grad in this market, Gary, what is the
[1:00:18] number one skill that you think they
[1:00:20] should be focusing on?
[1:00:21] >> Making content on LinkedIn.
[1:00:25] >> Making content on LinkedIn.
[1:00:26] >> How about that one? You know why? I'm
[1:00:29] obsessed with optionality.
[1:00:30] >> What does that mean?
[1:00:31] >> Let me explain.
[1:00:33] If you lost your job and you're like
[1:00:35] debating, do I want another job similar
[1:00:38] or do I want to do something on my own?
[1:00:40] If everyone understood what I
[1:00:41] understood, which is LinkedIn is exactly
[1:00:43] the same thing as Facebook and
[1:00:44] Instagram,
[1:00:46] except the audience
[1:00:48] perspective and mentality when they're
[1:00:50] on it is different.
[1:00:52] If you put out content on LinkedIn,
[1:00:54] whether it's about the things you think
[1:00:56] about your industry, so you're an
[1:00:58] executive assistant. Yep. And so you're
[1:01:00] making content on LinkedIn about five
[1:01:01] rules. Hey everyone, it's Susan. I'm in
[1:01:04] between gigs. I've been doing executive
[1:01:06] assistant work for the last nine years.
[1:01:08] Just going to make this video. Five
[1:01:10] things every executive assistant or
[1:01:11] someone getting into it should know
[1:01:13] about the game.
[1:01:14] >> Now, I want to point something out.
[1:01:15] Notice he said, "I'm in between gigs."
[1:01:18] Most people wouldn't say that because
[1:01:21] you don't want people to know that. And
[1:01:23] Gary is telling you saying the thing you
[1:01:26] don't want to say is not a sign that
[1:01:29] you're a loser. It's a sign that you're
[1:01:31] a winner and that you're secure in
[1:01:33] yourself and you're still showing up.
[1:01:35] >> Mel, you're embarrassment is your
[1:01:37] advantage.
[1:01:38] >> What do you mean?
[1:01:39] >> I mean your embarrassment is your
[1:01:41] uniqueness. It's your nuance. It's your
[1:01:43] snowflake.
[1:01:47] I just don't know how people can't see
[1:01:49] this.
[1:01:51] Your unique situation is your biggest
[1:01:54] advantage regardless if the world
[1:01:56] currently thinks it's right. Let me give
[1:01:58] you a big one for me.
[1:01:59] >> Yes.
[1:01:59] >> I pounded against college for a decade
[1:02:02] in my content in the early 2000s and got
[1:02:05] completely [ __ ] on by everyone.
[1:02:09] like he what he's talking about is that
[1:02:10] for a decade Gary was questioning
[1:02:13] >> 2005 7 9 11
[1:02:15] >> do you college is a waste for a lot of
[1:02:17] people do you need to go to college you
[1:02:19] do not need to go to college the world
[1:02:20] is changing
[1:02:21] >> 2007 I'm making a video saying college
[1:02:24] isn't right for and I always was nuanced
[1:02:26] if you're creative or entrepreneurial
[1:02:29] and your parents can't afford to pay for
[1:02:31] it I do not think you should go take
[1:02:34] $120,000 in debt to have a piece of
[1:02:37] paper that I'm projecting in 20 years
[1:02:40] won't matter.
[1:02:40] >> Yep.
[1:02:41] >> And Mel, I got destroyed.
[1:02:44] >> Well,
[1:02:44] >> no, really, Mel. Like, it was probably
[1:02:46] the subject matter that I most got the
[1:02:48] most private and public comment heat of
[1:02:51] for a decade.
[1:02:52] >> Wow.
[1:02:52] >> Gary, you're saying this cuz you were a
[1:02:53] bad student. You suck. You're not smart.
[1:02:56] You curse and you're bad at school. You
[1:02:58] don't have intellect. Blah blah blah.
[1:03:00] >> And then miraculously,
[1:03:02] 15 years later, people are like, "Wait a
[1:03:04] minute."
[1:03:05] And so what I'm saying is if it's your
[1:03:09] truth,
[1:03:10] >> my truth was I thought a lot of kids
[1:03:12] were getting screwed by college.
[1:03:14] >> Yes,
[1:03:14] >> I really but man was I on an island in
[1:03:18] 2007. I'm telling you, I was in a really
[1:03:20] lonely place and I would not stop
[1:03:23] >> because I believed in my soul.
[1:03:25] >> And you think I want to tell the world
[1:03:27] that I sucked at Cander for 20 years and
[1:03:29] was horrible at firing and that there's
[1:03:31] people out there that are still mad at
[1:03:32] me because I pulled the rug from out.
[1:03:34] I'm embarrassed,
[1:03:36] Mel. I don't think all my other success
[1:03:39] hides.
[1:03:39] >> What do you do with those failures?
[1:03:41] >> Adjust. Own and adjust.
[1:03:45] And then, by the way, my friends,
[1:03:49] pay attention to your relationship with
[1:03:51] should.
[1:03:53] My relationship with should is
[1:03:56] remarkable.
[1:03:57] I don't use it.
[1:04:00] I don't think I should have anything. In
[1:04:03] fact, I think if I'm working 15 hours a
[1:04:05] day, let me say this slow and for 3
[1:04:09] years straight, I don't think I should
[1:04:10] have anything because if I'm not working
[1:04:12] effectively or something that's bringing
[1:04:14] value to someone, I should get nothing.
[1:04:20] >> Cause that's tough one. You know, like,
[1:04:22] okay, Gary and Mel, I've been working on
[1:04:24] my podcast for 9 years, 12 hours a day.
[1:04:26] Like, what's up? What's up? As you
[1:04:28] stink.
[1:04:30] >> I'm [laughter] sorry to laugh.
[1:04:31] >> I mean, I don't know. Like it's okay.
[1:04:32] Like by the way, like I stink at a lot
[1:04:34] like like
[1:04:34] >> there's a lot of things I've done that
[1:04:35] stink, which is why I don't do them
[1:04:37] anymore.
[1:04:37] >> Correct. Now we're getting into like
[1:04:39] like are you navigating? How self-aware
[1:04:41] are you? Where's your humility? But I'm
[1:04:43] going to say it again. There's a lot of
[1:04:44] people exhausted
[1:04:46] because they are not realizing how much
[1:04:49] envy and jealousy is eating up their
[1:04:51] soul. I'm going to say it nice and slow.
[1:04:53] as of this moment that most people are
[1:04:55] listening, obviously people will listen
[1:04:56] this years from now, but knowing when
[1:04:58] this is going to air, they just went
[1:05:00] through June, July, and August and they
[1:05:02] got triggered by someone else's
[1:05:04] happiness.
[1:05:06] >> We need to talk about this more.
[1:05:09] I had a moment in my life where I just
[1:05:12] got tired of myself
[1:05:15] >> that
[1:05:15] >> I got so sick of being a person that
[1:05:18] thought life should be different, that
[1:05:20] thought I should have the things other
[1:05:22] people did. that was jealous of people I
[1:05:24] wanted to be happy for. And I realized,
[1:05:28] wait, if I don't like the person I am,
[1:05:31] and if I don't like how I feel, I'm not
[1:05:33] stuck as this version of myself
[1:05:36] >> in the realest way.
[1:05:37] >> I need to change this. If I don't like
[1:05:39] the way my life feels,
[1:05:41] >> even in the most competitive place I am
[1:05:42] as a professional, like I do business
[1:05:45] the way like athletes do athlete.
[1:05:46] >> I know. I love that about you.
[1:05:48] >> You know, like they're like in real life
[1:05:49] they're very sweet, but when they get on
[1:05:50] the field, they want to crush. Yes, even
[1:05:53] in my most competitive domain, my
[1:05:55] professional career, if you knew how
[1:05:58] much joy I have for people that are
[1:06:01] seemingly on paper competing with me
[1:06:03] when they are winning,
[1:06:05] what many of my contemporaries view as
[1:06:07] coming out of them, it does not even
[1:06:10] register. I could not be happier for
[1:06:13] people that pass me in following count,
[1:06:15] pass me in financial status, pass me in
[1:06:17] listener account. I could not be more
[1:06:20] happy for all of you.
[1:06:23] >> Why?
[1:06:24] >> Cuz the world is abundant and your joy
[1:06:26] has nothing to do with me. My joy is my
[1:06:29] joy and your joy is your joy. And
[1:06:31] friends, there's unlimited stuff.
[1:06:33] There's unlimited happiness. There's
[1:06:35] unlimited love. There's unlimited joy.
[1:06:37] There's unlimited materialistic things.
[1:06:40] And just like no one's taking out of
[1:06:42] you, you're taking out of you. If this
[1:06:45] were the last thing that you could share
[1:06:49] with somebody, the one message that you
[1:06:52] wanted the person who's been listening
[1:06:54] to this to remember, what would it be?
[1:06:56] >> Then nothing in the end, in the end,
[1:06:59] none of the [ __ ] that you're worried
[1:07:00] about is going to actually matter. So,
[1:07:02] if that is true, and guess what? I know
[1:07:04] everyone knows I'm right. Then why not
[1:07:07] start living your life that way right
[1:07:08] this second?
[1:07:10] >> What are your parting words?
[1:07:12] [sighs and gasps]
[1:07:13] that life can be so much better than the
[1:07:15] way it is right now. I think there's a
[1:07:16] confusion in the system. I really,
[1:07:18] really love you. And it's time you love
[1:07:20] yourself,
[1:07:22] >> Gary. I really love you. I do. And I
[1:07:28] know you don't do a lot of interviews.
[1:07:30] And so the fact that you wanted to be
[1:07:32] here, that you made the time to be here,
[1:07:34] um the that you did that both for me as
[1:07:41] somebody who I truly when I tell you
[1:07:43] this, I am where I am in my life because
[1:07:47] of the content that you put out and the
[1:07:49] message that you put out and the way
[1:07:50] that you've changed the way that I
[1:07:52] think. And I really have always felt in
[1:07:56] everything that you've done that there
[1:07:58] is this incredible combination of
[1:08:01] ambition and confidence and fun and
[1:08:05] business and go and build and chase and
[1:08:08] how [ __ ] cool is this and at the same
[1:08:11] time this humble connected
[1:08:15] profound understanding of what is true
[1:08:19] in life. and I feel like
[1:08:24] you are a twin flame and a huge bright
[1:08:27] light and I just want to thank you for
[1:08:30] truly changing my life and inspiring me.
[1:08:34] >> Um that is incredibly humbling and you
[1:08:37] know to me it honors what I most believe
[1:08:41] in the world that is so much bigger than
[1:08:43] me which is like this is real. There is
[1:08:46] so much right now. The world is very
[1:08:48] confused that hate is winning. My
[1:08:50] friends, hate's in trouble.
[1:08:52] Love is always lurking, you know, and
[1:08:56] I'm really just in uncomfortably proud
[1:08:58] of you. And more importantly, in this
[1:09:00] moment, there's just a lot of people
[1:09:02] listening that are on the cusp.
[1:09:04] >> I am I am so proud and pumped for you,
[1:09:09] but I am here strictly because I know
[1:09:11] one person's ready to tip. And I know
[1:09:13] our combination
[1:09:16] today will do that.
[1:09:17] >> Well, Gary Vee, I love you.
[1:09:19] >> I love you back.
[1:09:20] >> Thank you for coming here and partnering
[1:09:22] with me on behalf of the person who
[1:09:24] spent all this time with us. And I just
[1:09:26] want to say to you, thank you for making
[1:09:28] the time to be with me and Gary. Go
[1:09:31] follow him. Go comment with the other
[1:09:33] people in the comments for God's sakes.
[1:09:35] And get off the damn line and get into
[1:09:37] the game. Your life depends on it. in
[1:09:40] case nobody else tells you. As your
[1:09:42] friend, I'm going to be sure to remind
[1:09:43] you that I love you. I know Gary loves
[1:09:45] you. And we [music] both believe in your
[1:09:47] ability to create a better life. Now, go
[1:09:49] [ __ ] do it. [laughter]
[1:09:53] So, go [ __ ] do it. And before you do
[1:09:55] that though, I just want to thank you.
[1:09:57] Thank you for watching all the way to
[1:09:58] the end here on YouTube. Thank you for
[1:10:00] being generous. This was Gary at his
[1:10:04] [music] best. This was so profound. This
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[1:10:08] everybody in your family. So, I hope you
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