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Operating from the HigherRealm: Reclaiming Authentic Self

Esalen Institute
Esalen Institute
May 7, 2020
6 min de lectura
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In May 2020, as the world moved through an unprecedented moment of closure and reckoning, spiritual channel Paul Selig sat in Maui to discuss what his Guides have been revealing about this curious time in history—a period they've been warning about for years. The central message: humanity is being invited to reclaim its true identity, to move beyond the structures and systems that have kept us tethered to fear, and to operate from what Selig calls "the next octave"—a realm of consciousness unbound by the restrictions and controls of the lower vibration we've inhabited.

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What Does This Time Want Us to Understand?

Selig's Guides have been discussing a "reckoning" for years. When they first spoke through him in his book I Am the Word, they described humanity at a time of facing itself and all of its creations. In recent years, their message has evolved: all the larger structures—governmental, social, destructive systems—are being reclaimed and transformed. As Selig explains it, "everything that doesn't have its basis in truth is bowing to the union shift and altar because it's an opportunity for all of us to reclaim our true identity."

But this reclamation cannot happen in isolation or indifference. The Guides emphasize that we cannot embody our authentic selves while allowing others to go uncared-for. This is not a message of individual spiritual ascent divorced from collective care—it is a deep opportunity for recommitment to one another at the moment when everything that has been false is being exposed and demanded to transform.

Fear Versus Prudence: What Creates Change?

A critical distinction emerges from Selig's teaching: the Guides draw a line between prudence and fear. Prudence is practical intelligence—knowing sharks are in the water and choosing not to swim. Fear, by contrast, is the action that creates more fear. "Every choice we make in fear is going to get us more of the same," Selig notes, citing his Guides' core principle.

The question becomes urgent: can we create authentic change, embody our true selves, while operating from lower vibrations of fear and doubt? The Guides' answer is no. Operating from fear locks us into a self-perpetuating cycle. To become who we truly are, we must access the aspect of ourselves that "knows and operates beyond fear"—not recklessly, but from a place of grounded truth.

What Is the "Next Octave"?

The Guides describe reality as operating in octaves—shared constructs of vibrational accord that shape the world we co-create. The octave we inhabit has its high notes and low notes, but it is fundamentally bound by fear and all the systems of control we've used to anchor ourselves to it. They are inviting humanity to live into the next octave, a frequency not bound by fear and not tethered by the restrictions and systems that have confined us.

Some might call this ascension; the Guides use different language, but the meaning is clear: we are being supported in moving up to a level that operates beyond the machinery of fear itself. This is not metaphorical. When Selig teaches and the Guides work through group workshops, he describes the energy as palpable and transformative—people report experiencing a visceral shift in how they hold themselves and everything around them.

The True Self Knows Who It Is

One of the Guides' most compelling teachings is that the true self already knows who it is, what it is, and how to serve. This is not something to be constructed through self-help or figured out. It is something to be reclaimed—accessed, allowed, expressed. The idea of who we are, the persona we've built, is what gets in the way. That persona is not evil or useless; it is how we navigate the world together. But it is not authentically who we are.

The personality structure has been useful. But we cannot operate authentically while dragging our history into the present moment, claiming it as identity. The Guides are clear: your history is not who you are. It is simply what you've known yourself to be. To reclaim the true self is to release the weight of that narrative and step into what has always been present—the divinity that cannot be made holy because it already is.

Service as the Signature of Authentic Expression

How we serve is how we are most fully expressed as the true self. It is not about career or title. It is not about rank or achievement. When the true self operates and expresses itself in fullness, it lifts everything it encounters simply by nature of being. The Guides teach that when we operate at that level of expression—what Selig calls "the true self lifting the field"—everything around us shifts.

This is not metaphysical abstraction. In workshops, Selig has observed people learning to access and express this higher self in their presence, in how they show up, in what they naturally radiate. The transformation is described as "fairly extraordinary"—not because mystical tricks are performed, but because the barrier between the limited ego-self and the boundless true self is lifted.

What Gets in the Way of the Reclamation?

Selig emphasizes that the work is not about "getting out of the way" in some vague spiritual sense. It is about releasing the mask—the idea of who we are. That idea is born in history, in narrative, in what we believe should be true. Every "should" we claim, the Guides say, is actually born in something unexamined. When we drag our history, our beliefs about how things should be, into the present moment, we cannot access the freedom and power of the true self.

This is why the teaching is described as a "visceral, active reclamation of our own divinity." It costs something: it costs what we think, it costs being right, it costs how we believe things should be. But what we gain is access to an aspect of ourselves that has never left, that is always available, and that knows exactly what is needed in any moment.

A Switchboard, Not a Guru

Selig is careful about his role. He describes himself as "a traveler"—not a spiritual teacher, not a guru. His function is to be a channel, a switchboard through which the Guides' wisdom flows. This distinction matters because it points to a central teaching: the authority is not Selig. The authority is within each person who listens. The Guides are offering an invitation and a map, but the work of reclamation belongs to each individual.

Where to go from here

The invitation, as Selig and the Guides present it, is clear and urgent: examine what binds you to fear. Distinguish between prudence and panic. Begin to release the narrative of who you have believed yourself to be and access the knowing that is already present. Recognize that your authentic expression—your true self operating in the world—is not a private spiritual achievement but a gift to everyone you encounter. And understand that this moment of planetary reckoning is not a disaster; it is an opportunity to align with what has always been true about yourself and to help build a world that reflects that truth.

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[0:00] greetings everybody Oh happy Thursday

[0:03] what a joyous Thursday it is in this

[0:05] curious time may 7th 2020

[0:09] I'm Greg Archer and you are tuning in to

[0:12] the Esalen interview where we connect

[0:13] with agents of change swim deep waters

[0:16] and wonder quite greatly at what's going

[0:21] on in the world and ourselves please

[0:23] know that our thoughts and our hearts

[0:25] are with you at this time a slim

[0:27] community sending out the best vibes to

[0:29] you I'm so excited about today's guests

[0:31] very excited we're so happy to have a

[0:34] slim faculty Paul Selleck here one of

[0:37] the foremost spiritual channels working

[0:38] today in his breakthrough works of

[0:41] channeled literature which include I am

[0:43] the word and his most recent book beyond

[0:45] the known realization Paul is recorded

[0:47] an extraordinary program for personal

[0:49] and planetary evolution as humankind -

[0:52] its own divine nature described as a

[0:55] medium for the living Paul channels

[0:58] workshops internationally and all this

[1:01] after serving on the faculty of NYU for

[1:02] over 25 years he has become one of the

[1:05] most sought-after spiritual influencers

[1:07] of our time Paul what a pleasure it is

[1:09] to connect with you welcome thank you

[1:11] for being here thank you for having me

[1:13] absolutely and we'll be fielding

[1:15] questions so folks if you would like to

[1:19] leave a question I'll be monitoring and

[1:22] we could we could dive in and Paul

[1:25] happily answer so Paul how has this time

[1:30] been for you it's been extraordinary I

[1:33] think it's been extraordinary for

[1:35] everybody I mean I'm in Maui right now

[1:37] you can probably hear the nature sounds

[1:39] in the background there's roosters and

[1:40] things did squawk so we're gonna get

[1:44] interrupted I think by nature but it's

[1:46] been extraordinary I I was living my

[1:48] life in New York and I went off for do

[1:50] an event in Costa Rica in New York City

[1:52] shut down while I was there and now I'm

[1:54] here on Maui for the time being and I'm

[1:58] having you know a really interesting

[2:00] experience and a completely unexpected

[2:02] one and I think the rest of us are all

[2:05] having a completely unexpected

[2:06] experience as well hmm many unexpected

[2:09] experiences indeed yeah and Maui full of

[2:13] roosters full of chicken

[2:14] if I recall correctly we I'm really

[2:19] excited to dive in and and just swim a

[2:23] bunch of curious currents here with you

[2:25] and asked a bunch of questions what do

[2:27] you feel that this time is attempting to

[2:29] teach us you know I don't know and I'm

[2:33] on my first cup of coffee everything and

[2:37] I never know if I'm going to end up

[2:38] channeling um you know when I do lose

[2:40] and give you some times it just happens

[2:42] the guides that I work with have been

[2:44] you know speaking of this you know this

[2:48] kind of a time for for some years when

[2:51] they dictated the first book through me

[2:53] which was called I'm the word they said

[2:55] you know humanity as if is at a time of

[2:57] reckoning and a reckoning as a facing of

[2:59] oneself in all of one's creations and

[3:02] they've been talking in the last few

[3:05] books in the last couple of years about

[3:06] how all of the larger structures that

[3:09] need been party to let the longing

[3:12] structures governmental structures where

[3:14] the destructors were actually going to

[3:16] be sort of reclaimed renown and

[3:18] transformed you know in these times they

[3:22] basically said that everything that

[3:24] doesn't have its basis and truth is

[3:26] bowing to the Union shift in alter

[3:30] because you know it's an opportunity for

[3:33] all of us I think to to reclaim our true

[3:38] identity this is what they say we're

[3:39] being invited now to reclaim who and

[3:41] what we truly are but we can't do much

[3:44] of that if we're you know letting some

[3:46] people star them you know letting some

[3:48] people you know go uncared-for you know

[3:51] in this world so I think it is a

[3:52] recommitment I think it's it's a deep

[3:55] opportunity that's the best way that I

[3:57] can look at that yet do you also feel

[4:00] when you when you talk about being more

[4:06] of our authentic selves or living on

[4:08] that higher vibration is it that we

[4:13] cannot create the change or be living

[4:16] our true authentic selves if we are

[4:18] operating from that lower vibration or

[4:20] is that place the point of fear or in

[4:22] doubt or well I mean the guys have said

[4:25] you know the action of fear is to claim

[4:27] more fear

[4:27] and every choice we make and fear is

[4:29] going to get us more of the same it's

[4:31] pretty much a guarantee they do make a

[4:33] do that you make a distinction between

[4:35] prudence and fear you know Prudence's

[4:37] you know there are sharks in the water

[4:39] that's not to go swimming but that's not

[4:41] about fear that's about konchem and you

[4:44] know thoughtfulness when they talked

[4:47] about becoming the true self which is a

[4:49] big part of their teaching or aligning

[4:52] to or evolving as I mean they're talking

[4:55] about an aspect of us that they say is

[4:58] always present you know they say you

[5:00] can't make anything holy but you can

[5:02] deny everything already is but you can

[5:04] deny the divinity in anything but

[5:06] they're supporting us in doing that

[5:08] suspect is is reclaiming the aspect of

[5:11] us that knows and operates beyond fear

[5:13] they say that we live in an octave and

[5:16] the octaves and they say an octave is a

[5:19] shared construct of reality with its

[5:22] high notes and low notes and everything

[5:23] is in vibrational Accord to the world

[5:26] that we're co-creating here the world

[5:29] that we're seeing is of this octave and

[5:31] we're actually being invited to live to

[5:34] the next one some people talk about

[5:35] ascension and that's the term they use

[5:37] the guides don't use that term very much

[5:40] for me but they do say that they are

[5:42] supporting us and then going up to the

[5:45] next level and the next level is

[5:47] actually a level that's not bound by

[5:49] fear and is also not bound by you know

[5:53] all of the tethers that we've used to

[5:56] more us to the lower all the

[5:57] restrictions all the systems of control

[6:01] you know they say that the true self as

[6:03] you knows who he is knows what he is

[6:05] knows how to service you know it's not

[6:08] about figuring it out it's not about

[6:10] self-help it's about reclaiming that

[6:12] aspect himself in those and then moving

[6:14] into an alignment with it express it in

[6:16] fullness and I'd say that how one serves

[6:19] is how one is the most fully expressed

[6:21] as the true self it's not your career

[6:24] it's not your title it's one of those

[6:26] things it's really and you know we're

[6:28] expressed and then they say if they're

[6:29] operating at that level of expression is

[6:31] the through self you know lifting

[6:33] everything that you encounter by nature

[6:35] of being you know when I teach and the

[6:37] guides do their workshops I mean they're

[6:39] very palpable the energy is very present

[6:41] a huge people how to lift you know I

[6:43] lift the old airfield how to shift

[6:45] everything around them and it's it's

[6:47] fairly extraordinary working I I'm

[6:49] explaining it as best as I can and you

[6:51] know in short clips but that's that's

[6:54] how I can answer that I suppose is a lot

[6:57] is a lot of it do you feel getting out

[6:59] of her own way and allowing more of

[7:02] himself to come through yeah I mean but

[7:05] yeah but it's a little bit more I think

[7:07] about getting rid of the mask which is

[7:09] the idea of who we are you know the idea

[7:12] of who we are is what gets in the way

[7:14] you know there's nothing wrong with the

[7:16] personality structure we all have one

[7:18] it's useful it's how we engage with one

[7:21] another but it's not authentically who

[7:23] we truly are on earth and they're

[7:25] inviting us you know to this visceral

[7:27] active reclamation of our own divinity

[7:30] which tends to come at the cost of what

[7:32] we think and the cost of being right and

[7:35] the cost of how things should be because

[7:38] the guides I work would say every should

[7:40] you would claim is actually born in

[7:43] something industry and you really can't

[7:45] operate when you're continually dragging

[7:48] your history at the present moment with

[7:50] you because your history isn't who you

[7:52] are either it's just things that you've

[7:54] known yourself that's right that's

[7:57] things that you've known and how you've

[7:59] known yourself to be so for those who

[8:01] are turn tuning in for maybe the first

[8:04] time or hearing this the what are you

[8:07] know I mean there are myriad ways we can

[8:12] tap that within us that is us that is

[8:15] the true us but for those of us that

[8:18] those who are tuning in what would you

[8:21] say you know how do we get from you know

[8:24] from our head to our hard world or into

[8:26] being more fully well you know I'm a

[8:29] traveler you know that's my job I'm not

[8:31] a spiritual teacher I'm not a guru I

[8:33] have no desire to be any of those things

[8:35] I actually sit in a chair I close my

[8:37] eyes and I take dictation

[8:40] then the dictation that comes through me

[8:42] is what happens in the workshops that

[8:43] you know happen through me at Esalen in

[8:46] the books that come through me are

[8:47] really unedited transcripts of their

[8:50] teachings of the guides teachings and

[8:52] they're all done the last three books I

[8:54] think we chunks

[8:55] we're done at Esalen in front of a large

[8:58] audience of students who are

[9:00] participating in the experience of the

[9:03] energy so how one goes from here to

[9:07] there I think is really you know a

[9:09] process of alignment that I'd say

[9:11] everything is in telephone or in tone as

[9:14] well they say you know you're in a chord

[9:16] I'm an accord we're all in a chord and

[9:18] they say a cc or AC C or D or a CH or D

[9:22] is on a piano like everything that you

[9:24] see because you see it you're in

[9:27] vibrational accord with it and the level

[9:29] of vibration begins to live through you

[9:32] as you begin to align to the truth of

[9:34] who you are and begin to let go of the

[9:36] ideas that you've probably utilized to

[9:40] you know get what you think you should

[9:41] have so the process of reclamation of

[9:44] the true self is really in many ways

[9:46] then they're teaching through that's now

[9:49] I think there's seven books out and the

[9:53] eighth is coming out in a few months and

[9:55] I know that they're supposed to be a

[9:57] ninth because I don't know how it's

[9:58] gonna get channeled because I like doing

[10:00] these things in front of groups and I

[10:02] can't travel right now mmm but that's

[10:04] their teaching I mean that's all of the

[10:06] books is how to reclaim that aspect of

[10:08] self and begin to align to it and then

[10:11] support others in greenpoint

[10:12] hmm and what is that process like for

[10:15] you when you're in front of groups let's

[10:20] talk about that what is your experience

[10:22] of that you know I am I wasn't uh you

[10:26] know I was raised an atheist and I

[10:28] wasn't spiritual in the least and I

[10:32] wasn't in the least that was 25 you know

[10:37] I had a couple of experiences they begin

[10:40] to open me up spiritually and

[10:41] psychically pain at the same time and I

[10:45] had to grapple with that but I actually

[10:47] studied the form of energy healing I'm

[10:50] to get a context for this stuff that I

[10:52] was getting to experience and I was

[10:55] volunteering at a Center for people who

[10:57] were mostly you know living living with

[11:00] AIDS and those days dying because there

[11:02] were no there's no treatment there for

[11:03] arm and I was doing energy work there I

[11:06] was trying to mean it was I was

[11:07] volunteering in a center

[11:08] and I started to hear for the people

[11:11] that I was working with so if I had my

[11:13] hands on somebody and I heard the name

[11:14] Bruce I'd learned as a who's Bruce and

[11:16] they'd say now my lover my father my son

[11:18] my dog and as I kept getting

[11:20] confirmation I began to trust the

[11:23] information that I was needing to access

[11:25] so for me all of this stuff has been

[11:28] experiential and I led a group that met

[11:30] in my apartment for 18 years very

[11:33] quietly I was in the Faculty of NYU I

[11:35] wasn't looking to be known as a town art

[11:37] um and the process now is pretty much

[11:40] the same as it's always been it's just

[11:42] more refined I sit in the chair I close

[11:45] my eyes I like to look at the Prairie

[11:48] protection because it sets a field that

[11:50] I'm comfortable working in and I'll hear

[11:53] one phrase repeated and usually

[11:55] incessantly and I'll keep hearing till I

[11:59] give it voice in the moment I give that

[12:00] phrase voice and it may be like you all

[12:04] need to know or you know on this day we

[12:06] wish to teach whatever it is if I give

[12:08] them a list of those first few words

[12:10] everything comes pouring out right

[12:13] behind it and continues so I'm just

[12:15] trying to keep up with the patient

[12:17] that's my job you know I actually you

[12:20] know when I'm traveling I refer to it as

[12:22] being a stenographer I don't think it's

[12:25] it's a way of being in service it's a

[12:27] quirky ability or skill set it's not one

[12:31] that I aspire to it's actually over the

[12:33] last thing I would have asked for I

[12:34] didn't even really believe in channel

[12:36] and to be honest with you I think I

[12:38] would have a set book when I was a grad

[12:40] student and by well that's interesting

[12:41] but you know put it aside so the process

[12:46] is of being in this energy and I'm

[12:49] primarily a clairaudient so I'm hearing

[12:53] and repeating and because I hear in

[12:55] phrases I whisper the words and repeat

[12:57] them I'm really just trying to keep up

[13:00] if you can imagine really reading a

[13:02] thousand fortune cookies one after the

[13:03] other after the other

[13:04] that's my experience I'm not

[13:06] experiencing the entirety of the lecture

[13:08] I'm experiencing the phrases and then

[13:12] it's not until the students can

[13:14] comprehend the entire thing I often

[13:16] don't fully get until I see it

[13:18] transcribed and then I see you know how

[13:20] seamless of the casement

[13:22] he was so that's my experience of the

[13:25] channeling the other thing that I do

[13:27] when I work they call me a medium for

[13:29] the living and I don't understand how

[13:31] this works but I have this odd ability

[13:33] to step into people and become them so

[13:35] if you're estranged from your sister and

[13:37] you give me your sister's name I can

[13:39] step into her I may begin to resemble

[13:41] earth you know and I can sort of broker

[13:44] a conversation in a higher way you know

[13:46] what the real issues are they're coming

[13:48] forth with asking to be dealt with like

[13:50] being a switchboard so when I'm hearing

[13:53] the guides I'm just tuned into there I'm

[13:56] gonna unplugged into them and when I'm

[13:57] reading for people I'm plugged into them

[14:00] you know in a different more practical

[14:02] way channeling requires no

[14:04] interpretation whatsoever it's just the

[14:06] patient's reading each is a different

[14:08] skill set which ones some some

[14:11] interpretation because I'm feeling the

[14:12] emotions or I'm feeling the physical

[14:14] thing they might have to understand what

[14:16] it is and then give that voice mmm why

[14:19] would you remember that I would imagine

[14:21] this forever altered your life you know

[14:25] there you are and this shifted and then

[14:29] you're suddenly in this experience and

[14:32] then the years go by and now many people

[14:35] ask you lots of questions and turn to

[14:38] you oh I think hopefully they're turning

[14:41] to guides you know I mean probably have

[14:45] as much information as much challenge

[14:47] getting to life as anybody else um it

[14:51] has changed everything but I have to say

[14:53] I'm fortunate in that it was it was

[14:57] gradual the initial awakening came at a

[14:59] time I was 25 there was a year out of

[15:01] year like expect out of grad school um I

[15:05] was a playwright I was having my work

[15:06] produced in New York in London and I was

[15:08] you know I was excited about all this

[15:10] stuff but I really hit a wall I got

[15:13] everything that I thought I was supposed

[15:14] to have or want and none of it made me

[15:17] feel good or that and it was really out

[15:20] of you know sheer necessity not because

[15:22] I thought it would be nice to get

[15:23] spiritual but I began to look for

[15:25] something more I was you know

[15:26] self-destructive partying kid so my

[15:30] emergence into a spiritual life

[15:32] coincided with a lot of other things a

[15:34] lot of my friends

[15:35] all around um you know I wasn't drinking

[15:40] I had known myself as a hard-partying

[15:43] kid and suddenly I was in the world

[15:45] where maybe maybe maybe there was

[15:47] something you might call God or some

[15:50] energy or something whatever you wanted

[15:52] to call it there was more and I knew

[15:54] there was more because I've had a couple

[15:55] of experiences with it that were

[15:57] shocking to me I mean literally shocking

[15:59] I started praying for the first time in

[16:02] my life when I was 25 and I was not

[16:06] somebody who you think would do that but

[16:07] I did and I actually heard a voice

[16:11] coming to get my act together and how to

[16:12] deal with it if luring me it was the

[16:14] first voice and I listened to it so that

[16:16] was the beginning of the change I'm

[16:19] grateful that everything else would have

[16:21] happened slowly you know I really was

[16:24] apprenticed in many ways in this work

[16:27] for a good 18 20 years before people

[16:30] even knew who I was before the book

[16:32] started coming and I'm glad about that I

[16:35] think had I shown up fully formed you

[16:39] know doing this stuff and I was doing

[16:41] this method very quietly if I was doing

[16:43] it on a larger stage I wouldn't been

[16:45] able to handle it um I had learned to

[16:48] show up for this work often in spite of

[16:50] myself in my own resistance to some of

[16:53] what comes through me but the energy is

[16:55] very probable you know everybody can

[16:57] feel it when it happens and you know

[17:00] I've come to accept that no matter how

[17:02] articulate I might be as a man I'm not

[17:06] capable of closing my eyes and dictating

[17:08] eight books that don't need any out of

[17:10] date it's just not possible you know and

[17:13] so I trust this strange process and I'm

[17:15] grateful that people are being helped

[17:17] it's actually because of Esalen that I

[17:19] have a public life you know I was really

[17:21] hiding and I wasn't until I was invited

[17:24] to a CTR conference at Esalen to channel

[17:27] divorce them since dollars and some

[17:29] scientists and I was scared out of my

[17:31] mind but that was the invitation and I

[17:33] showed up for it that everything changed

[17:37] Matar Woods who was at that conference

[17:40] as well you know took the manuscript of

[17:45] my first book which had just been

[17:47] printed at Kinkos have been printed

[17:49] before I got in the planning you know

[17:51] and it was actually published it was a

[17:53] publisher and it was probably seven

[17:55] months but anyway you know thanks to him

[17:57] and thanks to you know the Murphy's you

[18:00] know mindful and LC I was invited to

[18:02] teach um and I hear they hadn't had a

[18:05] channel wrestlin since the seventies you

[18:08] know there's there was a very well-known

[18:10] one I think working at the time but

[18:12] there was some resistance to bringing

[18:14] them back and they did and it's been a

[18:16] wonderful home for the work that comes

[18:18] through me ever so I'm very grateful for

[18:20] yeah I mean talk about it a shift and

[18:22] Yancey TR the Center for theory and

[18:25] research for for those where we don't

[18:27] know he does have a question shall I ask

[18:31] a question for the guides about

[18:34] the hearts desire what is the best way

[18:37] to align our hearts desire and feel the

[18:40] momentum of this path in the moment more

[18:44] consistently and that comes from Matt

[18:46] the first thing is that's a question for

[18:48] the guides and I'm on my first cup of

[18:50] coffee so I'm probably one infantile

[18:52] answer but actually there is a

[18:54] meditation on your heart's desire at the

[18:58] very end of the book of freedom which is

[19:01] fairly extraordinary and that was

[19:03] actually done at Esalen where the guides

[19:05] actually work with people to to move

[19:08] into the heart center and reclaim what

[19:10] that truly is so that's where I would

[19:12] direct people to go to the book not to

[19:14] me right now because I wouldn't remember

[19:16] the instructions um so I'm gonna ask and

[19:19] see if I didn't hear anything this

[19:20] morning but I will say that if I channel

[19:22] I whisper the words from the people so

[19:23] if this clumsy crazy process

[19:28] they're saying how you will live to the

[19:30] past how you how you planned the hearts

[19:31] desires to align to the possibility that

[19:33] it can be done that it can be known

[19:35] where the possibility is what's required

[19:37] at something if it's not in your innate

[19:40] knowing it is still present it is still

[19:41] present but less we access with middle

[19:43] but mostly access to the potential I

[19:45] have the right to know I have the right

[19:47] to know I'd like to see I have the right

[19:49] to see I have like a gold I have the

[19:51] right to behold it yourself the true

[19:53] self who knows what she wishes who knows

[19:55] what she wishes who knows what he's come

[19:57] forth who knows what he has come for if

[19:59] you do this if you do this we both need

[20:01] a little and you go into the agreement

[20:04] with it you may know what it is you may

[20:06] know what it is and then we have act

[20:07] Department and then you know how to act

[20:09] upon it area so that's their answer

[20:12] Matt that is their answer I believe Matt

[20:19] says thank you he does say thank you

[20:23] another question from Joseph and thank

[20:26] you for that Paul Paul in your first

[20:29] book I am the word in the chapter

[20:34] boulders the guides mention the topic of

[20:37] demons in passing and then never return

[20:41] to the topic yeah I mean it may be my

[20:46] resistance to talking about that stuff

[20:48] it's not my favorite topic

[20:49] um they tight if I recall what they talk

[20:52] about it as as a creation something that

[20:55] hangs out in the energetic field that is

[20:57] sort of becomes independent you know

[21:00] it's almost like a hard thought or a

[21:04] hard idea that sort of you know claims

[21:07] its own identity through us and that's

[21:10] how I understand them but I it's not

[21:12] part of their teacher and they actually

[21:13] don't talk about angels either you know

[21:16] that's really not their schemata but

[21:20] yeah I think in that they talk about

[21:22] them as you know these things that seem

[21:25] to sort of operate in consort with us

[21:28] that are just not who we truly are

[21:30] but that's the extent of all I would

[21:33] fall without it got it all right Joseph

[21:36] and folks if you have any other

[21:38] questions just jot them down I'm

[21:41] monitoring this I think you've said in

[21:44] it in another interview that nothing is

[21:46] not the defined yeah and that you were

[21:50] sort of trailing by that truth when that

[21:52] came to you can you can you level it a

[21:54] little bit I still AM I'm gonna God say

[21:57] you know you know you can't I said

[22:00] earlier listen you know you know you

[22:02] can't make anything holy it already is

[22:04] but you can deny it dignity at anything

[22:06] and everything and we often do we may

[22:09] actually say the only real challenge we

[22:11] face it's what they call the denial of

[22:14] the divine the guides teach the kingdom

[22:17] and they say the kingdom is the

[22:18] awareness of the inherent divine in all

[22:21] manifestation so it's it's part of a

[22:25] very simple and much

[22:26] you're teaching they say what you put in

[22:28] darkness or who you put in darkness

[22:30] falls you to that darkness they say you

[22:33] can't lift the evil man to what they

[22:35] call the upper room which is a higher

[22:37] level of vibration because you would

[22:39] have Nathan evil so unless you Reno the

[22:42] man as of source and of divinity you

[22:45] know which is a Reno and Rory seeing

[22:48] beyond how one presents what one does

[22:51] and you know the morality or the ideas

[22:53] that we wish to lock with hey on that

[22:55] person we can't actually me know them in

[22:58] a higher way so I found that it's true

[23:01] you know there's this meditation in the

[23:03] blue mastery but I really like and they

[23:06] sit you know imagine you're walking up a

[23:07] mountain when there's a cave and you

[23:09] walk into the cave and in that cave is

[23:12] the one person you never want to see

[23:14] again as long as you live and your your

[23:16] your assignment now is to walk that

[23:18] person out of the cave and they say you

[23:21] know who you put in darkness again calls

[23:24] you to that darkness so it's not so much

[23:27] about letting them off the hook or

[23:28] forgiving them in a way that makes what

[23:30] they did okay but it is about the

[23:33] release of them so that you can be free

[23:36] you know and I do understand this

[23:38] containment it is challenging I see a

[23:40] lot of things right now that I don't

[23:41] like in the world and I wish were

[23:43] different but I'm also deciding what

[23:46] should be based on my reference point so

[23:49] how I would like things to be the show

[23:52] there's always face from the spirit of

[23:53] data so yeah I mean it's an old 12-step

[23:57] concept and I believe that fully and

[23:59] they say you know black as all things

[24:00] our God is nothing what do you want

[24:02] which one do you want you don't get to

[24:04] cherry-pick

[24:04] in this stuff they said that's the

[24:06] hypocrisy of most religions you know you

[24:09] get to do this and you're gonna be

[24:10] number man whatever you believe in and

[24:13] it's a teaching of separation and this

[24:16] is not a teaching of separation it's a

[24:18] teaching final immunity mmm Wow

[24:24] it's beautiful it's beautiful yeah we

[24:27] don't get you don't get to cherry-pick

[24:28] really right another question from

[24:32] Sharon

[24:34] does Paul have a daily practice based on

[24:36] his guides teachings

[24:39] I have many that they've given me an

[24:41] almost none that I actually do matter of

[24:44] fact so why is it because I don't

[24:47] remember it I mean this is really that

[24:49] the hard part you know I've done these

[24:51] workshops and at the end of the workshop

[24:54] they may said everybody would be very

[24:56] helpful to go out with ten minutes and

[24:58] did this this or this you know and then

[25:00] I go to you know Dustin who works with

[25:05] me and he's videotaping the workshops

[25:07] and I said what did they told me to do

[25:09] is I don't know I wasn't listening

[25:10] so it's you know it sort of disappears

[25:13] and unless it winds up in the transcript

[25:15] because it's all sent off and transcribe

[25:17] I often don't find it unless somebody

[25:20] look through the videotapes but yeah

[25:23] it's you know they do have these things

[25:26] and they're in some of the books they

[25:28] have some practices that are supportive

[25:31] for all of us but they're actually not

[25:33] very big learn rules you know there

[25:36] isn't even you do this every twenty day

[25:38] every day for 20 days or 20 minutes

[25:40] every day I don't hear that really it's

[25:42] very much like that there's wiggle room

[25:45] that's perfect it's also people like

[25:50] that they want the how-to instructions

[25:52] know be able to work with the alignments

[25:55] or the attunements you know the guides

[25:57] work with these attunements which they

[25:59] say we're all radios we're all in we're

[26:01] always playing our consciousness our

[26:03] consciousness of the station what they

[26:06] do through the attunements is they're

[26:07] teaching us how to tune our radios to

[26:10] play the higher broadcast which is

[26:12] always there and the attunements are a

[26:14] practice do it with them because until

[26:17] you are able to really align more fully

[26:19] with them they're gonna remain

[26:21] theoretical and this actually isn't the

[26:23] theoretical teaching that's really quite

[26:26] practical and often very physical for

[26:28] people when they work with it I mean

[26:30] it's you know they're they claim they're

[26:32] inclusive of the body and all of these

[26:34] teachings I Know Who I am in truth I

[26:36] know what I am in truth I know how I

[26:39] serve in free is one of their a terminus

[26:42] but the who that is speaking that isn't

[26:44] the personality self is the true self

[26:46] this is the true so

[26:47] knows who it is knows what it is and

[26:50] what it is is in its embodiment in the

[26:52] form that one is taken and how it serves

[26:55] is how one should spread what is

[26:56] expressing and you know the you know

[27:00] people have said well how long do we do

[27:01] these achievements and the guard said

[27:02] ones well you know that they're in

[27:04] filete until you know them until they're

[27:05] your expression like I walk into a room

[27:08] and I know I'm in a male body and I know

[27:10] I lost my hair and you know all that so

[27:13] I don't go when I walk in I am fall and

[27:15] you know I have a beard I just would

[27:18] have except that you know it's part of

[27:20] my reality what I don't always know

[27:23] truthfully is that I'm a divine being

[27:26] that's a bigger struggle for me to sort

[27:29] of claim that part of myself as the

[27:31] truth of who and what I am but that is

[27:33] what they're teaching I mean it seems to

[27:38] be a lesson that is repeatedly taught

[27:42] that's so yeah absolutely

[27:45] you keep absorbing and reminding

[27:46] ourselves a few more questions from

[27:49] folks here thank you for sharing that

[27:52] really I really felt that Paul let's see

[27:58] here this is from Joseph one of the

[28:02] things I've been struggling with from

[28:06] the guides teaching is that the divine

[28:08] isn't all things what makes us as humans

[28:12] different or special from this leaf on

[28:19] the tree the fish in the sea etc well

[28:23] the guides say that there's one note

[28:25] played in the entire universe and that

[28:28] one note or that one tone is is in

[28:32] articulation as all things so there's

[28:34] finally one energy that manifests as you

[28:38] know the rock is the tree is the ocean

[28:40] is who and what we are the gods speak up

[28:44] I mean I what makes us different I

[28:47] suppose is is our potential for

[28:50] realization of who and what we are and I

[28:52] will say you know I think my dog Lily

[28:55] knows who she is and I think the tree

[28:57] outside the window is not trying to be

[29:00] itself it is itself

[29:01] I think we're the ones who sort of have

[29:03] forgotten who and what we truly are and

[29:06] are seeking to replace that the guys

[29:08] speaking their teachings they use a lot

[29:13] of the books they use the term Christ or

[29:14] monad or true self or eternal self then

[29:18] they defined it because it's not a

[29:20] religious teaching but they say the

[29:22] Christ is the aspect of the creator

[29:24] seeking to me realize the material form

[29:27] as who and what we are it's the seed of

[29:30] the divine that seems to grow and flower

[29:32] and express as in to us and is all

[29:35] things so in terms of how we're

[29:38] different I don't know they haven't

[29:40] gotten into that when they ask them no

[29:43] I'm curious with like Lazarus there's a

[29:44] would like to answer this the divine

[29:46] self as self the divine self as self is

[29:49] reacting to fight is reaiiy dead to

[29:50] fight in the plural eyes faith in the

[29:52] plural eyes stayed as it grows beyond

[29:54] the idea of separation as it grows we

[29:56] arm the idea of separation the tree

[29:58] outside the tree outside the skies of

[30:01] the sky itself well I've done well our

[30:03] God are not superior to division are not

[30:05] seeking we articulation happens to them

[30:08] it happens through them as the vibration

[30:10] of all things is looked at as the

[30:12] vibration of all things is lifted

[30:14] because your operators because you are

[30:16] creators and that will indicate and you

[30:18] have the ability to change the idea of

[30:20] Mark the idea of who you are and then

[30:22] the for working towards with you and

[30:23] then lift the world in accordance with

[30:25] through the realization look we realize

[30:27] age to the true self while an individual

[30:30] act while an individualized act is also

[30:33] part of applause it's also part of a

[30:35] pluralized awakening awakened you to the

[30:38] courts now that is in occurrence now

[30:41] again the true self knows what is again

[30:43] the true self knows who it is the tree

[30:45] does as well the tree does as well it

[30:47] doesn't struggle of its complexes it

[30:49] doesn't struggle with its complexes nor

[30:51] there's neither one nor does it deny the

[30:53] divine in those itself a sub source it

[30:55] knows itself as a source you are the

[30:57] ones who find separation you were the

[30:59] ones with claim separation identify to

[31:02] it and identify through it period period

[31:07] Wow I also love that there's a period

[31:11] there you know as a person who writes

[31:13] it's awesome well it helps me because

[31:16] that's what I know they're gonna shut up

[31:18] you know that's little bit thought so

[31:21] often say period period period but you

[31:23] know that's yeah I mean that's you know

[31:26] or they'll say stop now please you know

[31:30] right do you feel a sense of kinship

[31:34] with the guides do you feel that it's a

[31:38] French I mean what is that relationship

[31:40] like for you it's odd

[31:43] there's the primary guide that I work

[31:47] with I've seen a couple of times and one

[31:49] meditation and under hypnosis been

[31:51] fascinating for me because I'm you know

[31:53] primarily visual than this worth it some

[31:56] more you know auditory and physical but

[31:58] it's very physical when I channel I've

[32:00] been over my eyes turn very pale blue

[32:03] you know and I'm like hazel eyes it's

[32:06] something I'd seen but it's been

[32:07] reported by most people who come and

[32:10] look directly with the guides face to

[32:12] face so it's interesting

[32:16] I feel at times that I'm like the person

[32:19] sitting in the front row of the class

[32:20] with his hand up and challenging the

[32:24] teachings because I have to you know

[32:26] there's all these books out with my name

[32:27] in the camera that I didn't actually

[32:29] write and while I don't feel

[32:35] and I'm not the author of the books I

[32:37] feel some level of responsibility to the

[32:39] content only in that you know I wouldn't

[32:43] want people to be harmed or misled by

[32:45] anything that would ever come true me

[32:47] and I'm pretty clear about that so if

[32:49] the guides teach something that I'm

[32:51] challenged by I have been known to say

[32:54] hey wait a minute and the books it

[32:56] appears as you know Paul has a question

[32:58] and then they'll take the question and

[33:01] then we'll usually answered in the body

[33:02] of the text so I mean they're my

[33:04] teachers I don't know all the time that

[33:08] their investment is my personal

[33:10] happiness or my personal desires I think

[33:14] you know I mean I have a level of

[33:16] facility that allows for this to have

[33:18] and threw me on and that's how it

[33:24] happens in some ways I suppose are in

[33:26] this Kanaga refer I also feel that at a

[33:28] certain level I'm of them and distinct

[33:31] from them at the same time um but I also

[33:34] understand that this is probably a much

[33:36] older relationship than this this is

[33:39] something that I've been for the party

[33:40] to you know prior to this life if you

[33:42] believe in those things I do but it's a

[33:45] challenging relationship thankfully I'm

[33:48] often challenging because you know I

[33:50] just show up often in spite of myself

[33:53] and every time I do this even just now

[33:56] it's like you know using a stand on the

[33:59] diving board and you get ready to jump

[34:00] and you just hope that there's water in

[34:02] the pool

[34:03] because I don't know what's gonna happen

[34:04] you know and every time I sit down to do

[34:06] a book and you know the books the rule

[34:09] is I can't go back and change things

[34:10] there might be three words corrected in

[34:13] the whole manuscript both you know 300

[34:15] pages and that's because I stumbled over

[34:18] the word or mispronounced it in a recent

[34:21] lecture the transcriptionist said you

[34:24] know this word presence doesn't make

[34:26] sense but the ruler was prescient you

[34:29] know but it cannot presence but when was

[34:30] under the prescient was clearly you know

[34:33] the indicated word but that's about the

[34:35] level of change its utility you know a

[34:38] vowel even though that was softened too

[34:41] much or a pluralization that wasn't

[34:44] intended that's it does this process

[34:48] take a lot of energy from your body or

[34:53] does it invigorate you I'm sure you even

[34:56] ask that questions are the Pens it

[34:58] really depends if I'm working on when

[35:02] there's a lot of resistance to what's

[35:04] coming through me it can be the training

[35:07] but you know it's arduous physically I

[35:10] mean it is it does take energy it's a

[35:12] physical act but I also have been known

[35:16] to channel for five hours in a day that

[35:18] places like Esalen and most people that

[35:20] I know who do this my channel for 30

[35:22] minutes and that would be it but when

[35:24] the guides are doing books they're gonna

[35:26] lecture lecture lecture because that's

[35:28] how the book books take no more than 30

[35:31] days of lectures you know to make the

[35:34] whole book and then it's just out so

[35:36] though that's art was I love working at

[35:39] Esalen because you know you have

[35:41] wonderful food you can go sit in the tub

[35:43] or you know look at the ocean and

[35:46] replenish so I know but I don't complain

[35:49] about it I mean it's part of the work

[35:51] yeah yeah move it Elena says hi Paul do

[35:58] the guys have any advice or messages for

[36:00] these challenging times you know they've

[36:03] been talking about it a lot I was in

[36:05] Costa Rica at a retreat when everything

[36:08] started to shut down and there's

[36:10] actually a couple of videos that are up

[36:12] on YouTube from that period that you

[36:16] know talk to the top of this and if he's

[36:17] interested I'm gonna ask only one thing

[36:20] only one thing doesn't read if you're

[36:22] don't agree to clearly understand the

[36:25] opportunity here we know who and what

[36:28] you are how the world was made and how

[36:30] the world is made much of what you have

[36:33] agreed to was for you to endear was

[36:35] agreed to in fear or given either

[36:37] himself or an agreement to deny the true

[36:40] self this is in fact an opening this is

[36:42] in fact an opening the great opening a

[36:44] great opening of it is paper - such if

[36:46] it is taken as such not adorn yourself

[36:49] deny the divine in yourself and I know

[36:51] and you denied and all to mind another

[36:54] denied and another who can either

[36:56] yourself even hide in their self of

[36:58] possibility opens the possibility may be

[37:00] known that you may be read

[37:02] we some replaying grease on the highway

[37:05] in a higher way and replacement replicas

[37:07] and we present for the transformation

[37:10] and people come that indeed will come

[37:12] through your swing hmm hmm thank you hmm

[37:18] thank you whew just taking that in takes

[37:24] a moment to just let that kind of sink

[37:26] in so Elena thank you for asking the

[37:30] question folks if you have any other

[37:32] questions we have about maybe a little

[37:35] less than 10 minutes here but Paul I'm

[37:38] curious what what do you do for fun well

[37:43] right now I'm on Maui so when I can get

[37:45] into the ocean I'm really happy because

[37:47] the beaches are open in there you know

[37:49] they're pretty solitary here so that's

[37:51] been nice I have a dog that I hang out

[37:54] with when I'm in New York when this um

[37:56] you know it's funny I this used to be my

[37:59] hobby you know when I had this group

[38:01] that met in my apartment every week it

[38:03] was my hobby now it's my work it's like

[38:05] I have to find another hobby you know if

[38:07] I'm gonna find a balanced life but

[38:10] that's it you know I am NOT a partier

[38:13] you know I'm actually quite shy which

[38:15] makes some things harder for me than

[38:18] others you know you can invite me to the

[38:19] party but I'll hang out in the back

[38:21] better look like um I'm a good host I'm

[38:22] a rotten guest um so yeah I'm still

[38:26] learning what's fun you know I actually

[38:28] I'm using some of this time that I have

[38:32] alone for that kind of reflection and

[38:34] it's beautiful and and on Maui of all

[38:37] places it's just a very powerful place I

[38:41] felt when I was there for quite some

[38:44] time what makes you laugh

[38:48] Oh a lot you know I laugh at myself a

[38:52] lot

[38:55] I'm pleased often by the goodness of

[39:01] other people you know i'm i've been very

[39:03] moved by that in these times actually

[39:06] i've been cared for well you know in

[39:08] this transition but I've got a really

[39:10] dark sense of humor you know when I

[39:12] always have and and I you know I enjoyed

[39:17] that and I loved being made to laugh you

[39:20] know and I my my favorite times are

[39:23] actually when I'm laughing so holy

[39:27] laughter that was good let's see we have

[39:31] one more question and then I think we'll

[39:33] wrap up a little bit here but ah let's

[39:38] see

[39:39] translating pardon me folks while I go

[39:43] back I think the question is translating

[39:47] the I am statements into another

[39:48] language is intention good enough

[39:52] I hear yes I hear yes I just heard that

[39:56] the booklets coming out in August is

[39:58] gonna come out and not in French soon so

[40:03] that you know there yeah they're being

[40:04] worked with another language as I was

[40:06] surprised there's a shaman who I know

[40:08] who was bringing the books with him to

[40:12] ceremonies and I didn't know the drum

[40:14] roll someplace because I started hearing

[40:16] about people who found my writing my

[40:18] book in the Amazon when I was in the

[40:20] Amazon but he's a Spanish speaker and he

[40:24] was working with all of the claims in

[40:26] Spanish and sort of when was their

[40:28] voyage I was sort of watching everything

[40:29] morph you know as he was working you

[40:33] know with them you know with them so I'm

[40:35] assuming they were just as effective I

[40:38] think the intent is enormous was

[40:40] important beautiful that was from Andre

[40:45] Andre a few more questions for you Paul

[40:49] and again thank you for being here on

[40:53] this first Thursday in May you may have

[40:58] answered some of this but what brings

[40:59] you a real sense of wonder and awe

[41:02] I mean the work that I do can and often

[41:09] does I it's not that I'd become jaded

[41:12] but I've become very used for this and

[41:15] I'm used to working with energy and I'm

[41:16] used to so this or the heightened

[41:19] experience that come I don't think I'd

[41:21] experiences the point of the work but I

[41:24] can feel that kind of wonder you know in

[41:28] the presence of some of this and the

[41:30] transformations that I see um but I'm

[41:33] kind of easy you know I'm I can be you

[41:37] know blown away by a wonderful afternoon

[41:39] you know it's not you know I don't have

[41:43] a criteria for wonder it comes when it

[41:45] comes and I react to it as I do I don't

[41:47] know what it's gonna be

[41:48] mmm it's lovely lovely how is this path

[41:53] helped you expand your own human

[41:54] potential you know I'm I mean I can step

[42:00] into people I've never met and begin to

[42:02] resemble them and you know we film doing

[42:04] it and have the other person be filmed

[42:06] in some other city and you can sort of

[42:08] see the manifestation and so it's

[42:10] fascinating stuff I didn't come in doing

[42:13] this this happened as a result of doing

[42:15] the work that I do as far as I can tell

[42:18] so you know how I'm wired it seems to be

[42:22] extremely different than how I used to

[42:25] be unless I was wired for this and I was

[42:27] just so busy lowering my favorite

[42:30] vibration all the time or denying that I

[42:32] didn't know it um but yeah my full life

[42:36] has changed from this in some ways and

[42:39] fabulous ways in some ways in

[42:41] challenging ways I still worry far too

[42:43] much I still complain about being single

[42:46] I have you know I complain about this

[42:48] and that I'm asked asked people who know

[42:49] me I like to complain you know it's not

[42:52] my best asset um you know and I don't

[42:56] pretend to be anything other than I am

[42:59] and I don't pretend to be farther

[43:01] illumined than I am you know but when

[43:04] I'm working I get to feel what that's

[43:06] like because the guides are much wiser

[43:07] then I experience myself as and I can

[43:11] become party to a kind of wisdom that

[43:14] does change me and does support

[43:16] and making very different kinds of

[43:18] choices that I might have otherwise mmm

[43:23] it's good to hear it's good to hear

[43:26] I think we have one more question from

[43:28] some somebody out there and then we'll

[43:31] wrap it up for today they've answered

[43:36] this a little bit what we can what we

[43:40] need to focus on during these

[43:41] challenging times but the question is

[43:43] what comes next after endemic after

[43:46] these challenging times I don't know

[43:49] that I think that what we begun will be

[43:53] going on for some time I don't know who

[43:55] that's what pandemic but I've heard this

[43:56] was the beginning of a series of great

[43:59] changes so I've heard you know I mean I

[44:04] think that there's great potential here

[44:05] um should we choose to take it and how

[44:09] we choose to take it is really going to

[44:11] me a lot about how we experience

[44:13] ourselves in the coming years but um I

[44:16] don't think that this is necessarily a

[44:18] quick experience and I'm not speaking

[44:20] about the virus I'm speaking more about

[44:22] you know what's been initiated here and

[44:25] I think you know a lot is changing you

[44:28] know and I think you know we can rise to

[44:30] it if we're willing to do it it's not

[44:32] about blaming people it's not about

[44:34] fearing things it's about I hope

[44:37] hopefully you know reclaiming our

[44:40] awareness of you know your worthiness of

[44:45] every human being you know and just to

[44:48] move out of this polarization and

[44:50] separation that I think has been you

[44:52] know doing this so that's how I can

[44:56] answer that right now you can ask me get

[44:57] another time and I might have a

[44:59] different one right thank you

[45:03] okay one last question for you what's

[45:06] the most interesting thing you've been

[45:07] learning about yourself lately but I can

[45:10] live with a lot of what I didn't know

[45:12] I'm but I can live without a lot you

[45:14] know I spent two and a half weeks in a

[45:16] tiny house with a hot plate and and I

[45:19] have to say I was enormous ly peaceful

[45:21] there you know I don't need what I

[45:24] thought and I think I'm more

[45:26] self-sufficient than I realized and I

[45:30] I think that you know in some ways I was

[45:33] prepared for some of this stuff and I

[45:35] lived through you know the AIDS epidemic

[45:37] when I was a young man and you know yeah

[45:41] you know I mean so there's stuff but I

[45:44] really am experiencing myself in very

[45:48] different ways than I would have you

[45:50] know I was on the road half the month

[45:52] the last five years I've been settled

[45:55] here and quiet here and very very quiet

[45:57] here and learning from that quiet so you

[46:01] know for me you know I'm learning I

[46:04] think again that I'm not going far guys

[46:08] but I'm not nearly as depending on the

[46:10] things that I thought I needed to make

[46:12] me who I am and that's a good thing that

[46:15] is a good thing it's very beautiful

[46:17] Paul thank you so much really for your

[46:20] time today for being present with us

[46:23] here on this beautiful day it's such a

[46:26] joy to connect with you and thank you

[46:28] everyone who tuned in and asked

[46:30] questions and and watched if you go to

[46:34] Paul's Telecom you can keep track of

[46:36] Paul and his work and his upcoming book

[46:38] is coming out this year's great outcome

[46:44] a is the book alchemy so look for that

[46:47] check out Paul's Telecom stay in touch

[46:50] with us stay connected with us go to s1

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[47:00] you we extend our hearts to you it's a

[47:02] very curious time but we are all in this

[47:04] curiously together so stay safe be well

[47:08] Paul thank you again and we will see you

[47:10] next week

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According to the Guides' teachings presented in the interview, operating from a higher octave means moving into a frequency of consciousness that is not bound by fear and not tethered by systems of control. At this level, the true self knows who it is and operates naturally in service, lifting everything it encounters simply through its presence and way of being.
Prudence is practical intelligence—knowing there are sharks in the water and choosing not to swim. Fear, by contrast, is an action that perpetuates more fear. The Guides teach that every choice made in fear guarantees more of the same. Prudence is thoughtful caution; fear is an unconscious spiral.
No. According to the teachings, authentic self-reclamation requires moving beyond the vibration of fear. This doesn't mean ignoring real dangers, but rather accessing the aspect of yourself that knows and operates beyond fear—a deeper layer of identity that is always present beneath the protective structures we've built.
The teaching distinguishes between identity and narrative. Your history is what you've known yourself to be, how you've been conditioned to see yourself. But it is not your essential identity. The true self is not constructed from past experience; it is reclaimed from what has always been present beneath the story you've told about yourself.
When the true self operates and expresses itself in fullness, it naturally lifts everything around it. How we serve is how we are most fully expressed as the true self. This isn't achieved through trying or effort—it's the natural radiation of someone aligned with their authentic identity.
No. The Guides emphasize that reclaiming authentic identity cannot happen while allowing others to go uncared-for. The invitation is to recommit to one another at this moment when everything false is being exposed. Authentic spiritual development includes active care for the collective.
The channel (in this case, Selig) describes himself as a switchboard, not a guru or authority. His function is to transmit teachings and hold space for transformation, but the authority and the work of reclamation belongs to each individual. The Guides offer an invitation and a map; each person walks the path.
The true self is not figuring things out or managing identity—it simply knows who it is and how to serve in any moment. The personality mask is what maintains narratives, claims shoulds, and drags history into the present. The shift feels like releasing a heavy weight and stepping into what is already known.

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