Transcript
[0:00] In order to get past this idea of our
[0:03] ordinariness,
[0:05] we have to come to a whole new place in
[0:08] our life. I was at a seminar many years
[0:10] ago
[0:12] with a woman named Porsche Nelson.
[0:16] And [clears throat] we were given five
[0:17] by 5 by eight cards. And on these 5 by8
[0:21] cards, we had to write down the five
[0:24] chapters of our life. I was reading
[0:27] through that book and all of a sudden
[0:28] this paragraph came to me and it was a
[0:31] reflection of everything that I had been
[0:33] writing every single day for the
[0:34] previous five months. And this is what
[0:37] it said. I put it at the very opening
[0:38] page of this. He says, "If we stop for a
[0:41] moment,
[0:43] it is possible
[0:45] to perceive a pattern in our lives. The
[0:48] motivators that have influenced us
[0:51] become much more obvious.
[0:56] Let me get my glasses.
[1:06] I'm getting lots of lots of
[1:09] noise in my neck here.
[1:13] We are able to see life unfolding from
[1:15] both ends at once coming into the
[1:17] present moment. But until we have got to
[1:20] a certain point of realization, this is
[1:22] not possible. because everything is
[1:25] still seen as a series of apparent
[1:28] causes and effects.
[1:30] Now, let me say it again and listen to
[1:32] this carefully because this is what
[1:34] motivated me to sit down and write this
[1:36] book, which is really 58 short chapters
[1:40] on all of the quantum moments that have
[1:42] taken place in my life that brought me
[1:45] to this stage here today in Melbourne.
[1:48] If we stop for a moment,
[1:50] it is possible to perceive a pattern in
[1:53] our lives. The motivators that have
[1:55] influenced us become much more obvious.
[1:59] We are able to see life unfolding from
[2:01] both ends at once. Coming into the
[2:04] present moment. Now, think about that.
[2:06] From both ends at once. Because most of
[2:10] us believe, as he says in his
[2:12] conclusion, until we get to a certain
[2:15] point of realization, this is not
[2:17] possible
[2:19] because everything is still seen as a
[2:22] series of apparent causes and effects.
[2:26] So most of us believe that the things
[2:31] that have brought us to this place in
[2:34] our life are the result of all of the
[2:38] events,
[2:40] things that have taken place and brought
[2:43] us to this point. But the fact is that
[2:46] there are two different kinds of time.
[2:49] one of these times.
[2:53] Sorry.
[2:55] Give me a moment. This thing's going to
[2:56] pass.
[2:59] [snorts]
[3:02] The time that I'm talking about here is
[3:04] called horizontal time. And horizontal
[3:07] time
[3:09] is the time that
[3:12] we call cronis time, chronological time.
[3:16] this happened and then this happened and
[3:18] this caused this to happen. And we tend
[3:21] to think that time is this horizontal
[3:23] thing that is the result of this cause
[3:25] and effect. And it's measured by a
[3:29] horizontal line. But there's another
[3:31] kind of time.
[3:34] And the other kind of time I call
[3:35] eternal time.
[3:37] And eternal time has a vertical line.
[3:41] And this is a line that goes straight up
[3:43] to God. And this is the line that I was
[3:46] speaking about when I was talking about
[3:48] Arthur Miller when he said,"I don't
[3:52] know, but I probably am." That there is
[3:55] something that is taking place
[3:58] that you have a sense that you're not
[4:01] the one who's really in charge of it.
[4:03] And I as I look at my own life
[4:07] and all of the things that have
[4:08] transpired in my life and brought me to
[4:11] this place, there's a sense as I got to
[4:14] this place now at the age of 72
[4:17] to look back as I was writing and
[4:20] realize that all of this was already
[4:22] handled. It was all taken care of. And
[4:26] all this time that I thought I was
[4:27] making all of these choices, in fact, I
[4:30] was making them within a context of
[4:33] everything already being taken care of
[4:35] for me.
[4:37] And what Rashad [clears throat] Field
[4:38] says in that Sufi book is that when you
[4:41] take Cronis time and you take vertical
[4:44] time and where they cross, where they
[4:46] hit at this point, you begin to have an
[4:49] awareness of how you fit in to this
[4:53] whole thing with time.
[4:56] It's like I go back in my own life and I
[4:58] start this book out when I was just a
[5:00] very young boy and the first 10 years of
[5:04] my life I spent uh in a series of uh
[5:08] foster homes and orphanages.
[5:12] My father walked out on our family.
[5:15] My mother had three boys by the time she
[5:18] was 23 years old and he [clears throat]
[5:22] just thought that this was too much for
[5:23] him. So he just walked away.
[5:27] And
[5:28] [clears throat]
[5:30] when I was just a very little baby,
[5:34] my mother used to tell me, and my
[5:35] mother, by the way, just passed away. My
[5:37] mother got us all back together again
[5:38] when I was uh 10 years of age. And we
[5:41] lived with her up until um
[5:44] she passed away just last July.
[5:48] And I still feel her presence with me
[5:50] today. been asking her for help with
[5:53] this little issue that I'm dealing with.
[5:55] As a young boy, I had a destiny.
[5:59] Every single one of us has a destiny.
[6:02] And that destiny is something that um is
[6:07] taken care of long before we ever even
[6:10] show up into this world. And most of us
[6:12] aren't really aware of what that destiny
[6:14] is. I uh
[6:17] I think of the first experience. I spent
[6:19] the first 10 years in a foster home and
[6:23] um my mother then remarried in 1949
[6:29] and got her whole family all back
[6:30] together again. And in the process of
[6:33] getting her family back together again,
[6:36] she uh married another man who was very
[6:38] much like my father, a drunk,
[6:42] because life gives exams. it was like
[6:44] algebra, you know, and if you don't pass
[6:46] it first time, you got to take it over
[6:48] again. And um she ended up doing that
[6:52] very thing.
[6:54] [clears throat]
[6:55] And um I was uh
[6:59] I was 10 years old
[7:02] and my youngest my next oldest brother
[7:05] Dave and I lived in all of these
[7:08] different places. Went from home to home
[7:10] to home to home. And um
[7:16] when
[7:18] I went to my very first school
[7:21] living with my mother, I met my oldest
[7:22] brother for the very first time.
[7:25] We um I was uh in a school. It was
[7:28] Arthur Elementary School uh in Detroit,
[7:33] Michigan. And on the uh in that class
[7:37] with Mrs. angles. There was a uh
[7:42] there was a teacher in there who would
[7:44] read to us every single day and she
[7:47] would read to us from a book at 3:15
[7:50] until 3:30 in the in the afternoon. And
[7:53] in the process of doing this reading, I
[7:55] became just enamored of what it was that
[7:58] she had to offer us. It was a um
[8:02] it was a book that became one of the
[8:04] most important books uh in my life.
[8:07] and I became the enforcer in the
[8:09] classroom in the fourth grade at Arthur
[8:11] Elementary School. So that if uh she
[8:14] would read to us only under the
[8:16] condition that if um if the class was
[8:20] good then she would read to us and if
[8:24] the class made a lot of noise or was
[8:25] disruptive or whatever she just wouldn't
[8:28] read. That was our sort of our
[8:29] punishment and I wanted to hear what she
[8:32] had to say more than anything.
[8:35] So [clears throat] what I did was uh I
[8:37] became the enforcer in the classroom and
[8:39] if somebody didn't started to get out of
[8:42] hand or would speak out inappropriately,
[8:44] I would get up and walk around the room
[8:45] and tell them no, I want to hear hear
[8:47] this book. And the book was a uh
[8:51] it was a book written back in 1909. It
[8:54] was called The Secret Garden.
[8:56] I don't know how many know The Secret
[8:58] Garden or read The Secret Garden, but it
[9:01] was about a little orphan girl named
[9:03] Mary
[9:04] who um
[9:07] discovered this place in her uh where
[9:10] she was living where she could go within
[9:13] and find a sense of peace and find joy
[9:17] and be able to be able to create
[9:19] anything that she wanted. And she had
[9:21] these friends that were in there. One of
[9:22] them's name was Dickin. and and she was
[9:24] able to heal people by walking into this
[9:26] place. And and I kept thinking because
[9:28] this was the first time that I had lived
[9:30] with my family in the previous 10 years
[9:32] of my life. And uh I was also just very
[9:37] terrified that I was going to have to go
[9:39] back
[9:41] and that my mother was uh cuz she was a
[9:43] stranger to me at that time. So, here I
[9:46] was, a little 10-year-old orphan boy
[9:50] back with his family, exactly like I was
[9:53] hearing in this uh in the secret garden
[9:56] as she read it to us every single day.
[9:59] And I think what was I doing at the age
[10:03] of 10? Because I think I have spent this
[10:07] entire lifetime of mine, 40 some books,
[10:11] 45 years of writing, trying to teach
[10:14] people that there is something inside of
[10:16] you, a place that you can go, where
[10:19] there's a secret garden,
[10:22] where you don't have to be in pain,
[10:24] where you don't have to be afraid, and
[10:26] it's something that's yours and yours
[10:28] alone.
[10:30] And that was the beginning. And when I
[10:32] think about this chronological time and
[10:35] this eternal time that every single one
[10:39] of our lives
[10:42] is orchestrated around this same
[10:44] principle that every decision that
[10:48] you're making, I had a great teacher in
[10:50] uh uh when I was studying for my
[10:53] doctorate. His name I was studying under
[10:55] Carl Carl Jung, not him personally. I
[10:58] was 12 years old when he died, but I was
[11:00] a Yungian analyst. And Carl Jung said,
[11:02] "At the very same moment that you are a
[11:05] protagonist in your own life
[11:09] and you're making choices,
[11:12] at the very same moment, you're also a
[11:15] spear carrier
[11:17] or an extra
[11:19] in a much much larger drama."
[11:24] And this was the uh the awareness that u
[11:28] we are making choices and within those
[11:30] choices there is something that we have
[11:33] signed up for or something that is
[11:35] providing us with the uh energy whatever
[11:39] it is that we need to fulfill a destiny
[11:41] that we have. But most of us don't get
[11:45] to that destiny. Excuse me.
[11:51] Because we've been raised to believe
[11:54] something about ourselves that is an
[11:57] illusion.
[11:59] We've been raised to believe
[12:02] that we are ordinary.
[12:05] And in order to get past this idea of
[12:08] our ordinariness,
[12:10] we have to come to a whole new place in
[12:12] our life. There was I was at a uh a
[12:15] seminar many years ago
[12:18] with a woman named Porsche Nelson
[12:21] and [clears throat] we had to we were
[12:23] given five by 5 by eight cards and on
[12:27] these 5 by8 cards we had to write down
[12:30] the five chapters of our life and we
[12:33] couldn't go more than what was written
[12:35] on this page because it didn't get too
[12:37] long because everybody had to read them.
[12:39] Well, Porsha Nelson wrote these words
[12:43] describing the five chapters of her
[12:44] life. She was a woman in probably her
[12:46] mid-40s.
[12:48] And this is what she said.
[12:50] She said, "Chapter one of my life.
[12:54] I walk down the street.
[12:57] There's a deep hole in the sidewalk.
[13:01] I fall in.
[13:04] I am lost. I am helpless.
[13:08] It isn't my fault.
[13:11] It takes me forever to find a way out.
[13:16] Chapter two of my life. I walk down the
[13:19] same street. There's a deep hole in the
[13:21] sidewalk.
[13:23] I pretend I don't see it.
[13:26] I fall in again.
[13:29] I can't believe I'm in the same place.
[13:33] But it isn't my fault.
[13:35] And it still takes a long time to get
[13:38] out.
[13:40] Chapter three of my life.
[13:43] I walk down the same street.
[13:46] There's a deep hole in the sidewalk. I
[13:49] see it there.
[13:51] I still fall in.
[13:54] It's a habit.
[13:56] My eyes are open. I know where I am.
[14:01] It's my own fault.
[14:03] and I get out immediately.
[14:07] Chapter four of my life.
[14:09] I walk down the same street. There's a
[14:12] deep hole in the sidewalk.
[14:15] I walk around it.
[14:18] And what I love was chapter five.
[14:23] I [clears throat]
[14:25] I walk down another street.
[14:28] Isn't that beautiful? Porsche Nelson.
[14:40] What I want to present to you in the
[14:42] time that I have with you here this
[14:43] morning is
[14:46] what I call walking down another street.
[14:50] A street that takes us from what I call
[14:52] ordinary levels of consciousness,
[14:55] which is what we've been raised to
[14:56] believe in. We have this subconscious
[14:59] mind of ours and this subconscious mind
[15:02] of ours has been raised to believe
[15:06] that um who we are
[15:09] is just ordinary.
[15:11] We've been raised to believe what can't
[15:13] what can't be done, what's impossible,
[15:16] what the limitations are, what other
[15:18] people can do but what we can't do and
[15:20] so on.
[15:22] >> [clears throat]
[15:22] >> And for me, moving into this place of uh
[15:26] of an elevated state of consciousness, a
[15:29] higher degree of awareness where we are
[15:32] capable of doing what Jesus said in the
[15:35] in the New Testament
[15:37] that even the least among you
[15:41] can do all that I have done
[15:44] and even greater things.
[15:46] And I took that literally when I read
[15:49] that. Before I wrote wishes fulfilled, I
[15:51] read the entire New Testament and in the
[15:54] process of reading the New Testament, I
[15:56] took the words of Jesus and um where he
[16:00] encourages us to believe that we are one
[16:05] with the father
[16:07] that there is another kind of
[16:11] there's another kind of awareness that's
[16:13] available to us. But we've got to get
[16:15] past this idea of our limitations
[16:19] and past this idea of uh what our
[16:22] subconscious mind has trained us
[16:26] to believe in. Because you see the
[16:28] subconscious mind of ours is what we do
[16:30] most of our uh of our activity with. We
[16:34] go out into the world and uh we get up
[16:35] in the morning and we get ready and we
[16:38] drive to work and we don't think about
[16:41] how to drive the car. We don't think
[16:43] about how we shave. We don't think about
[16:46] uh how we make our breakfast. And you
[16:49] know about 96 to 97% of what we do
[16:52] according to Bruce Lipton uh in the
[16:55] [clears throat] is that uh is done with
[16:56] this uh with just our subconscious mind.
[16:59] We just go about doing all of these
[17:01] things. And [clears throat] within each
[17:03] and every one of us, there is also a uh
[17:06] a conscious mind that is only operating
[17:09] on about 3 or 4% of uh what is possible
[17:12] for us. We don't really believe that
[17:15] it's possible for us to heal ourselves.
[17:20] When I was in the United States Navy
[17:23] for uh four years from the age of 18 to
[17:27] 22,
[17:29] I was sent to the U
[17:31] infirmary
[17:35] [clears throat] because I had developed
[17:36] something. I was stationed on Guam and I
[17:38] developed something on my lower back
[17:40] called a pollenidal cyst. And I went to
[17:44] this ward where so many young sailors
[17:48] who lived in these kind of climates had
[17:49] developed these cysts on the on their on
[17:51] their backbone on their tailbone. And um
[17:55] my job I got there on a Friday and I was
[17:57] scheduled for surgery on Monday morning.
[17:59] And on Friday, um, my job was to take
[18:02] care of all of the other, uh, guys who
[18:06] had also, uh, contacted this this thing
[18:09] that comes to people who aren't used to
[18:12] this kind of a climate. And I looked at
[18:15] them after surgery and they had had half
[18:17] of their rear ends cut away. And I had
[18:19] to bathe them and I had to help them
[18:21] with all of this stuff. And I knew that
[18:23] it was my turn on Monday morning.
[18:26] And in the process at that time I was
[18:29] about 20 years old. I was 21 and
[18:32] [clears throat] I was reading a book by
[18:33] Max Maltz called the psychocybernetics
[18:36] in which he was talking about the
[18:37] ability of our minds to heal ourselves
[18:40] which is what I'm focusing on even as
[18:42] I'm up here talking to you right now.
[18:44] this ability to uh to make something to
[18:48] realize that uh who we are is much much
[18:52] more powerful than anything that we
[18:55] might have ever imagined.
[18:57] And so here I was, 21 years old, being
[19:00] told by a bunch of doctors that it was
[19:03] my turn on Monday morning to have this
[19:05] surgery and they were going to cut into
[19:07] me and I would be there for a while. And
[19:09] I had to sign a consent form. And I went
[19:11] back to my uh
[19:14] to the barracks where I was staying.
[19:17] And I put my mind on eliminating um
[19:21] these this thing from my body. I focused
[19:24] on it. I concentrated on it. I put my
[19:26] attention on it. I put my intention on
[19:28] it and just stayed with that awareness
[19:31] that I have within me the power to heal
[19:34] myself.
[19:36] And I take this uh I take this kind of
[19:40] internal awareness about my abilities to
[19:42] be able to do things very seriously. And
[19:44] I wrote about it a lot in uh I can see
[19:47] clearly now. Um and in less than 24
[19:51] hours I was able to completely send this
[19:54] thing out of my body. And it was an
[19:57] awareness that I held with me and kept
[20:00] with me that whatever it is that's going
[20:02] on inside of me, that I have much more
[20:05] power and much more ability to be able
[20:06] to get past this idea that I'm limited
[20:10] or that I have to be a victim of what
[20:12] somebody else says I can do or can't do
[20:14] or what's possible or not possible for
[20:16] me. So, in raising my children, I have a
[20:21] uh my youngest daughter who is now 24,
[20:23] her name is Sage. But when she was about
[20:26] um five or six years old, she developed
[20:31] something on her face called flat warts
[20:34] and these flat warts were all over her
[20:37] body or rather all over her face. And
[20:40] they were getting worse and worse and
[20:41] worse as the time was going on. and we
[20:44] took her to the dermatologist and the
[20:46] dermatologist said, "Well, we can burn
[20:48] them off or we can give you a medication
[20:51] that's going to leave your face, you
[20:53] know, swollen and so on and these are
[20:55] all the options." And I took her aside
[20:57] and I said, "Honey, there's another
[20:59] option."
[21:01] She said, "What's that?" I said, "Well,
[21:02] you can talk to them. You can talk to
[21:05] your bumps and you can tell them that
[21:07] they've been with you long enough and
[21:10] you would really appreciate it if they
[21:11] would go somewhere else now." and that
[21:14] you weren't interested in having them
[21:15] with you any longer. So, she said she
[21:18] would go for that option. She didn't
[21:20] want to have them burned off. She didn't
[21:21] want to have this medication that was
[21:22] going to scar her face. And she went
[21:25] back to her uh room where she was uh
[21:28] staying where we were on Maui. And I saw
[21:32] her in the bedroom and she had a blanket
[21:35] over her head and she had a flashlight
[21:38] in there and I heard her talking to
[21:40] these bumps. Now this is been getting
[21:42] worse and worse and worse by the day.
[21:45] And [clears throat]
[21:47] that was the Tuesday and then Wednesday
[21:49] and Thursday. And by Friday morning she
[21:51] finally came to this place where she had
[21:53] this awareness this realization that
[21:56] these things were disappearing that they
[21:57] were gone. And she came out on Friday
[22:00] after 4 days of constantly putting her
[22:03] attention on her ability to heal herself
[22:07] of these things. They were gone. And she
[22:10] wrote about that and she actually wrote
[22:12] a little children's book about that
[22:14] whole idea that within each and every
[22:16] one of us we have this amazing power to
[22:21] be able to move from thinking of
[22:24] ourselves as just ordinary into this
[22:27] elevated level of consciousness in which
[22:30] we begin to think of ourselves
[22:33] as capable of manifesting or making
[22:36] anything happen that we would like to
[22:38] have happen for ourselves. in our lives
[22:40] and [clears throat] it's sort of been
[22:42] the the symbol of my life.
[22:45] I was very blessed to have as a mentor
[22:49] and a great teacher a man named Abraham
[22:52] Maslo
[22:54] back in the 1960s
[22:57] and Dr. Maslo was considered to be like
[22:59] the founder of uh self-actualization and
[23:04] higher consciousness and he was the
[23:06] first person who ever took this whole
[23:08] field of psychology and said instead of
[23:10] studying people and looking at all the
[23:12] things that they're not capable of doing
[23:14] and what's not possible for them, let's
[23:17] reverse it and study the people who have
[23:20] reached the very highest levels and then
[23:24] make assumptions about what is possible
[23:26] for of them to do. And one of the things
[23:29] that he said about these
[23:30] self-actualizing people, his whole life
[23:32] was based on the study of that. And I
[23:34] can see clearly now. I talk about my
[23:36] meetings with Maslo and how they
[23:38] dramatically impacted
[23:41] my my whole course of study because it
[23:44] was back in 1968
[23:47] when a young woman named Nancy Armstrong
[23:49] walked into my office and she handed me
[23:52] a book which was an essay
[23:56] uh written by Ibraham Maslo called the
[23:58] whole man. And in this essay
[24:02] he described these characteristics or
[24:05] these qualities of the highest
[24:07] functioning people. And one of those
[24:10] qualities
[24:12] was this
[24:15] awareness or the recognition that you
[24:17] have to be independent of the good
[24:19] opinion of other people. You have to
[24:22] know that within you. Oh, sorry about
[24:24] that. Within you there is a divine
[24:28] connection, a connection if you will to
[24:30] God. And
[24:33] I used to tell I used to tell my
[24:35] audiences that when I was in the third
[24:36] grade and I came home from school and
[24:39] [clears throat]
[24:40] Mrs. Scarf out in Mount Clemens,
[24:42] Michigan. And Mrs. scarf uh was uh just
[24:46] this wonderful person who took in a
[24:48] whole lot of children like us who didn't
[24:50] have uh the same opportunities that
[24:52] other children had at that time. And I
[24:55] came home from school and I said to Mrs.
[24:56] Scarf, I said, "What's a scurvy
[24:57] elephant?"
[24:59] And she said, "A what?" I said, "A
[25:01] scurvy elephant? I heard Mrs. P, who is
[25:03] my third grade teacher, telling the
[25:05] principal that Wayne Dyer was in her
[25:08] classroom and that he was a scurvy
[25:11] elephant."
[25:14] So, Mrs. Mrs. Scarf got on the phone.
[25:16] She called the principal and the
[25:17] principal said, "Oh, no, that's Wayne."
[25:19] Uh, he gets everything mixed up. She
[25:22] didn't say that he was a scurvy elephant
[25:23] in her classroom. She said that he was a
[25:26] disturbing elephant
[25:29] in her classroom.
[25:31] And I think becoming a a scurvy elephant
[25:34] is one of the the highlights, if you
[25:36] will, of being able to move from this
[25:39] place of ordinary consciousness into
[25:43] higher and higher levels of
[25:44] extraordinary consciousness. Being
[25:46] independent of the good opinion of other
[25:48] people and also being detached from
[25:50] outcome. That is living your life from a
[25:53] place of uh of purpose and knowing that
[25:56] you are here for something.
[25:59] And I think perhaps the most important
[26:02] message that Maslo ever taught me was
[26:06] this whole notion of finding what he
[26:09] called finding your excitement.
[26:12] And your excitement is the thing that
[26:14] makes you feel good.
[26:16] And the thing that makes you feel good.
[26:19] You know Mktananda the great teacher in
[26:21] India used to say to all the people who
[26:22] would enter his ashram, do you know the
[26:25] difference between good and God? And
[26:29] when they said they didn't know, he
[26:31] would just hold up his fingers like this
[26:33] and say, "It's just one little zero."
[26:36] So, anything that makes you feel good is
[26:38] your excitement. And finding finding
[26:41] that passion
[26:43] within you, finding the place within
[26:46] you,
[26:48] that thing that uh
[26:51] that you're aware is uh
[26:54] is what you're here for.
[26:57] And it seems to me that um when I was
[27:00] just a very young boy that there was a
[27:02] tapestry of my life that was played out
[27:06] here. I was
[27:10] [clears throat] reading The Secret
[27:11] Garden, listening to the ideas that each
[27:16] and every one of us have these
[27:18] magnificent abilities that each and
[27:20] every one of us are are pieces of God
[27:22] connected to God. And it's one of the
[27:24] things that people have the most
[27:26] difficulty with, I think, in u in
[27:30] looking at wishes fulfilled. One of the
[27:32] things I get the most criticism for.
[27:35] There's a statement in there that says
[27:37] uh come to the recognition that uh that
[27:42] you are God, that each and every one of
[27:44] us are pieces of God.
[27:48] And when you have that recognition
[27:51] that you are God,
[27:54] that you are eternal, that this thing
[27:57] that you are in called your body isn't
[28:00] who you are. Most of us can't answer
[28:03] that question, the simple philosophical
[28:06] question, which is who am I? You know,
[28:10] who am I really?
[28:13] who I am is uh I see I have a picture on
[28:16] my wall of when I was 21 years old
[28:19] and I look at that picture
[28:23] and I can't find one cell
[28:27] that was in that body when I was 21
[28:29] that's still on this planet here today.
[28:31] There's not one cell of it left.
[28:34] And yet I believed when I was in that
[28:36] body, I was in a little two-year-old
[28:38] body and I was in a 10-year-old body and
[28:40] a 20 year old body and so on. And each
[28:42] time that I was in those bodies, I
[28:44] really believed that this is who I was.
[28:47] But then I in fact here I am now in a 73
[28:51] year old body.
[28:53] And the body that I walked in here in
[28:55] today is different than the body that
[28:58] I'll walked out of here later on today.
[29:01] So that who we are is this infinite
[29:05] invisible thing called the soul that is
[29:09] uh living in this world that we think is
[29:13] real.