Transcript
[0:08] Ok, most people have managed to get
a space inside, great, excellent
[0:18] So for those of you who've been coming
to this center for a long time
[0:23] you may notice that when I give a talk
It is a... based on Buddhist principles,
[0:29] it is a Buddhist center, But I usually
talk about just how we can
[0:33] improve our lives just by changing
our attitudes.
[0:38] Because there's much in our
life we have not got the power,
[0:43] the ability to change, but
one thing we can do
[0:46] a lot about is the way
we look at life, the way
[0:49] We react to our life.
[0:51] And by seeing things in
a different way,
[0:54] so that it lessens our anxiety,
our irritation, our pain
[0:59] And live as happy and more
peaceful human beings
[1:02] And the last couple of talks
I was just focusing
[1:06] on just how we can change
our attitudes towards perfection
[1:11] And not be... try so hard to be something
you're not
[1:16] and to improve yourselves
[1:17] To many people trying to improve
themselves
[1:21] and they're getting all frustrated,
actually they're getting worse
[1:24] The more they try to improve
the worse they get
[1:27] And then we suddenly learn that,
who says we're not good enough?
[1:31] Where did that come from?
[1:33] And so we learn how to be at peace
with ourselves
[1:35] Learn how to be at peace
with ourselves!
[1:38] Not to make ourselves perfect first
and then to be at peace with yourself
[1:42] Be at peace with yourself as you are now
and then the improvement happens
[1:47] Then the problems get solved.
[1:48] It's counter-intuitive to
many people in the west
[1:51] But it is what has worked
for centuries in the east
[1:55] Learn to relax, and be at peace with
yourself, accept yourself as you are
[2:00] And the you find that
the problem gets solved
[2:03] So it's all about changing the attitudes
which we have towards our life
[2:08] And somehow or other, Ahh...
somehow the western world,
[2:13] and I say this as a western born person,
has been just so into progress
[2:18] and development, and not really
recognizing just what we already have
[2:24] There's a basic saying of Buddhism
which, you know, if you're gonna learn
[2:29] any Buddhism, you don't need to
learn lots and lots and lots of theories
[2:35] you don't need to read all the books,
thank goodness, cause there's heaps of them.
[2:40] All you really need to do is understand
what those books really mean.
[2:44] and that saying is: "when you want
something more, you can't enjoy
[2:49] what you already have".
[2:50] You can't even appreciate what,
you already have,
[2:53] because you're not looking at
what you already have
[2:55] you're way over there, wanting
something more,
[2:58] to develop the next addition to your house,
how many more rooms do you need
[3:06] in a house?
my house has only got one room
[3:09] I live in a cave, beautiful, so simple
it doesn't take long to clean it up
[3:13] I don't even need to clean it up,
someone cleans it up for me,
[3:16] out of compassion for the cleaner
I only have a small room.
[3:20] Imagine, imagine when you go home tonight,
and you've only got one room
[3:25] and that's all you have in you're house
oh what bliss.
[3:30] you don't have much to clean up
you can't have many possessions
[3:36] cause you can't fit them in.
[3:38] You don't have to spend all you're life
saving up and paying off the debts
[3:45] to build these huge mansions
in which you live.
[3:48] Look at how we live these days, you live
mansions which even kings 100 years ago
[3:55] would not be able to live in,
they’re so huge and big.
[3:59] Why do we do that?
Because it's what everybody else does.
[4:02] And sometimes we need some people to
say: "What on earth are you doing?
[4:07] Can't you actually look at thing in a
different way?"
[4:10] Small is much more beautiful.
[4:14] And also, just, I never expected to
actually go on this, but
[4:17] Those of you who are privileged,
where fortunate, to be poor
[4:26] when you grew up. You had to share
rooms with your brothers, sisters,
[4:33] Sometimes people say they had to share
the same bed with four or five siblings,
[4:39] yeah you may not have got much sleep
at night, but you sure had a lot of fun
[4:44] together. And you learn how to love
one another.
[4:48] It's one of the things which, because
I was poor, I spent my whole life
[4:54] In the same room with my brother.
Only one bedroom, we had to share,
[4:57] didn't have private bedrooms.
[5:00] And those of you who've seen my brother:
we love each other! We get on,
[5:04] even, he was a banker, I was a monk,
you couldn't get two, sorta... more
[5:09] diverse careers than that, but, you know
we respect each other, love each other,
[5:14] you know, to this day. And I often say:
"why was that?". Because we had to
[5:19] to get on together.
And now you give separate rooms
[5:23] To all you're kids, huge mansions,
which means that we don't learn how to
[5:29] get on together, we don't learn how to
love. We don't learn those attitudes
[5:34] of life. So I always think small is
incredibly beautiful!
[5:37] It's great for the economy, great for
sort of... not wasting all the resources
[5:43] you know, of our planet, bad for the
building industry, bad for the government
[5:47] bad for the GDP, but really
great for human happiness.
[5:52] Small, close together, learning how
to get on, because you have to.
[6:01] So changing attitudes like that is part
of my life, it's being a bit rebellious
[6:04] but why not? And one of the biggest
attitudes, which I wanted to change
[6:10] you know, in my career as a monk,
is just the way that we look at material
[6:15] stuff being really important; Things are
not important: people, relationships are.
[6:24] Doesn't matter how much stuff you have,
look: Experiences which I've had as a monk
[6:29] Because as a monk is a... I really
recommend this lifestyle.
[6:34] If you really want to go to interesting
places where you people can't go
[6:38] I can go to these places, cause I'm
a monk. You can go to see, uhh, royalty
[6:45] go to see, uhh, what was it... presidents.
I've met a couple of presidents
[6:52] A couple of royalty, and, you know,
you guys can't... how can you get to
[6:57] be there, in those places? You can as
a monk, because... it's weird,
[7:02] somehow or other they think because you're
religious, you must be really special.
[7:07] Especially if you're in politics, they
need all the blessing they can get (laugh)
[7:12] Seriously. So that's why they sort of...
and, you know one of the things which
[7:19] I've noticed talking to prime ministers
and presidents, quite a few of them now
[7:25] that one of the things which they ask
you, is they say: "Help!", the problems
[7:32] of the world are just so tough,
and they've run out of solutions
[7:37] literally, they don't know what to do,
and they say: "We're open for any suggestions
[7:46] any new ways of dealing with these things,
because it's just hopeless, whether it's
[7:51] economy, terrorism, global warming:
"Help!", and so they're very open
[7:56] to people like myself, spiritual people,
trying to give them some new way of
[8:01] looking at things, which can cut through
the sorta... the great, uhh, burdens
[8:06] and problems and obstacles of getting
things done.
[8:10] So, seeing that, you get into some very
interesting areas of existence, which
[8:17] gives me an opportunity to maybe
do some stuff. I say, as a monk, because
[8:23] you do live outside the box, you know,
you do think outside the box.
[8:27] I was very happy, after the last federal
election, someone actually... I've been
[8:34] saying this for so many years and somebody
actually sent me a copy
[8:39] of The Melbourne Age, with something
I've been saying for a long time, it
[8:43] actually appeared in the lead article,
about just, our democracy.
[8:47] Democracy doesn't work, we all know that,
so how can we improve it?
[8:53] Why do we always have to take the same
old system, and do it again and again
[8:57] knowing it doesn't work. So what I was
suggesting, and I was just using
[9:02] a little bit of reason, ok, this comes
from the corporate world, but the
[9:06] corporate world isn't all bad: If you
hold shares in a company, at they're
[9:13] AGM (annual meeting), you have votes
proportionate to the number of shares
[9:19] you hold in that company. If you hold 10%
of the shares, you get 10% of the vote
[9:25] which sounds fair. You're investment,
you're commitment to that Organisation
[9:31] will determine how many votes you get,
that seems very fair. What about our
[9:36] democracy, our governments. Why is it,
that everyone has one vote each?
[9:42] Even though there are some people who
are so old, they're gonna die soon
[9:48] they don't have much of a share, in life.
But young people, eighteen year olds
[9:57] they're whole life ahead of them. Maybe,
life expectancy, say eighty maybe
[10:05] sixty years of life; should they have
the same vote as an old person
[10:11] who is on the way out soon?
Cannot we... apportion... very simple
[10:18] mathematical solution: can't we apportion
the number of votes, to you're
[10:26] life expectancy, the amount of shares
you have in life. Which means young people
[10:32] would have a much much larger say, than
the old guys, who don't really give that
[10:39] much of a damn about global warming,
cause they're not gonna be here to face
[10:43] the consequences; They don't give much...
well they do care, I'm not saying they
[10:48] don't care, but they don't care as much
about going to war, cause they don't have
[10:53] to fight, It's the young people [who] have
to fight, and take the bullets and die.
[10:58] Wouldn't it be amazing if we could
just, somehow, change the balance
[11:04] so those who have more... more commitment
to this world, more investment, more
[11:12] life expectancy, have more say about how
this wold... and the world they're gonna
[11:17] live in is gonna be run. That, I think,
just that simple thing would change a lot.
[11:22] So I like seeing things in a different
way, because this is part of my life
[11:27] to see things in a different way, and
that was the gist of an article which
[11:31] somebody wrote in The Melbourne Age,
I don't know if they got it from me,
[11:35] but, it just comes up there, people
think: "nahh that's a stupid idea",
[11:38] but eventually these ideas get some
traction, and people realize: "Yeah!"
[11:43] One of my other great ideas: our education
system, kids over here
[11:49] in western Australia have already done
they're year twelves, how much stress
[11:53] that is. And everybody knows! Just getting
high grades in year twelve, which is the
[12:00] pre-university exam, doesn't guarantee
you 're gonna be successful in life.
[12:04] That's just... you 're good at exams!
Look at me, I passed all my exams,
[12:11] I went to Cambridge, and look at me now,
I'm broke, I've got no money (laughs),
[12:16] I've got a tiny house, I've got no
assets, no superannuation (laughs),
[12:21] What a waste of time those exams where,
and honestly, they where!
[12:25] I'll say that, ok? And people argue
with me, but I went to Cambridge
[12:31] University, hang out with Nobel Laureates,
people top of their field, and then
[12:37] I decided to become a monk! Why to become
a monk? I told people, actually, I think
[12:43] I new year's, I think: Because I had a
relationship, she dumped me, and
[12:47] I became a monk to forget (laughs).
That's not true... I wish it was true,
[12:53] because that would be really romantic,
that would be really cool!
[12:57] But then somebody said: "It could be true
Ajahn Brahm, because you've forgotten"
[13:01] (Laughs)
It's logically consistent.
[13:05] But no... But you became a monk and
then you're with these, these, old monks
[13:14] in northeast Thailand that had only gone
to school for four years, and after a few
[13:18] weeks, you had to admit, you had to
confess to the fact that that they where
[13:22] much smarter than you where. Much more
intelligent. And I think: What Have I been
[13:29] doing, working so hard, and these people
are far more intelligent than I am?
[13:33] And there's something wrong with our
eduction system. We learn how to think,
[13:39] but we don't know how to be still, and
how to listen, and how to know.
[13:44] It's one of the reasons why we're in such
a big problem in our life, because we
[13:48] listen to all these thoughts, we solve
problems through thoughts, and we don't
[13:52] really solve the problems, we just make
more problems! Thoughts are just out
[13:57] of control. You know that. When you
really have a big problem,
[14:02] a lot of anxiety, a lot of difficulty
in life, what do you do?
[14:06] You think like crazy!
And it makes you more mad.
[14:10] You never find a solution that way,
solutions come through stillness.
[14:14] So this is actually what we learn,
as monks, we learn how to be still
[14:19] and let the mind see things, hear things.
Thinking is like talking back at life.
[14:26] Have ever you, like, lived with somebody,
and you talk to them, and they're not
[14:30] Listening?
They're listening to they're thoughts,
[14:33] they're not listening to you. And that's
like you're living with life: life is
[14:39] always teaching you, giving you advice,
but you never listen, because you're
[14:43] too busy talking to yourself inside,
in you're thinking world.
[14:47] When you're still, it's amazing just
what you understand, and what you see.
[14:52] Somebody was asking me earlier: See all
of these monks in the time, you know,
[15:00] when I was, where I grew up, and even
beforehand, in the old books which I used
[15:05] to read, all these monks used to live in
the forest, in nature. And they said
[15:10] they're greatest teacher was nature,
because they would always be listening
[15:16] to nature, much more than books, much
more than experts, like me, you know, in
[15:23] front of a microphone; They would go out
there and learn it for themselves,
[15:26] you know, in the raw nature. Look, one
example of that: cause in a few days time,
[15:31] I don't know what it is that, recently
there's a spate of like a... deaths.
[15:38] There's a funeral here this afternoon,
a funeral here on Wednesday, there's
[15:42] another funeral I have to go to on
Tuesday. I don't know why people are
[15:46] dying, perhaps because they waited until
after Christmas and new year to get it
[15:50] over and done with, and then they're gonna
die, you know, they scheduled it for
[15:54] out of compassion for everybody else
(Laughs). I always say that to people
[16:00] you know, that, look I mean Don't be so
selfish; Why do people die when THEY
[16:04] want to die? You should think of your
friends and your relationships, make
[16:08] it also convenient for them. I always say
that during the rains retreat, because
[16:12] we go on retreat for three months
every year, the monks and the nuns
[16:15] so we can have some peace and quiet,
we can meditate. So I ask everybody before
[16:20] our rainy season retreat begins, of three
months, because it's my rest, relaxation
[16:25] please... Don't die (laughs), during the
rains retreat. Die beforehand,
[16:31] or afterwards, whenever you want,
but that three months, please,
[16:35] be respectful, don't just be selfish
and die when you want to die (laughs).
[16:41] Of course that's just messing around,
you can't do that. But anyway, so, there
[16:47] was a young person... That causes so much
suffering for people, when young people
[16:54] die. there's something about that, they
haven't lived a full life yet,
[16:58] why, why does that happen? And, have
you ever got a good answer to that?
[17:04] The answer which, I got for that,
I got from a monk, an old monk
[17:11] who's living in the jungle, who was
one of these people who was still enough
[17:17] to listen to the teachings from
the nature, from around us
[17:22] Brilliant teachings. And I tell this
every time I have to do a funeral service
[17:27] for someone who is young. I tell this,
and many people get it, they understand
[17:31] "Ahh, I understand now". And it was,
this monk was in a very simple hut,
[17:37] in the north of Thailand, and when I
talk about simple, I really mean simple,
[17:43] just made out of bamboo and thatch
for the roof, and thatch for the walls
[17:49] as well: really simple to put up, very
natural, very easy. And you know,
[17:54] he'd go on alms round every morning
to the local village, live a very very
[17:57] frugal, peaceful life, but very very
happy. But living in the jungle,
[18:03] there are such things as storms,
and if a storm comes when you're
[18:08] in the middle of the forest, and you
haven't got much protection,
[18:12] it is very dangerous. Trees come down,
or even big branches!
[18:18] And imagine, just visualize a bamboo
and thatch hut, if a decent size branch
[18:24] hits that roof, it just goes straight
through. Not like metal roofs,
[18:29] or these, uhh, roofs which are
engineered so that almost like
[18:33] an Elephant could fall on this roof
and it wouldn't go through.
[18:36] Otherwise we wouldn’t get planing
permission and building permission,
[18:40] not that an elephant would actually
fall on this roof, but you never know
[18:44] (Laughs)
So, so over engineered, for safety.
[18:51] But anyway, so, it was such a flimsy
dwelling, that one branch could go through
[18:57] and it would... if you didn't actually
get crushed you'd get injured,
[19:00] break a leg, break an arm, and remember
this is simple living, you don't have
[19:05] mobile phones, you don't... you know
even if you did have one, there
[19:08] would be no telecommunications
tower there,
[19:11] there's no one you can call,
no one can help you
[19:14] if you break a leg, that's probably
worse than dying instantly
[19:17] you just die slowly.
So it was very dangerous!
[19:21] So he was up all night, hearing
the... THUUUDD! BANG!
[19:26] (Hits Table) WHA... oops, WHACK
actually that hurt (Laughs)
[19:29] That didn't work as
I expected it to.
[19:32] I always say that when you give
a public talk, do some special effects
[19:37] (Laughs)
Cause you know what happens
[19:40] when people talk, talk, talk,
you know, they fall asleep
[19:42] they get bored.
It is something like, special
[19:44] like raise your voice, or go
BANG! or WOFF!
[19:46] then actually, you know,
people actually enjoy it
[19:49] in weird ways. Anyway, so
BANG!, WHACK!
[19:52] All these trees where THUDDING
next to him.
[19:55] And so, you know, it was very
difficult to meditate
[19:59] And he was up all night,
but, you know, he survived
[20:02] If he didn't survive he wouldn’t
be able to tell me the tale.
[20:05] He survived the night.
And in the morning
[20:08] He walked outside, to see the
damage; And yeah, several big trees
[20:17] Just missed his hut, he was lucky
to be alive!
[20:20] But it wasn't the trees which
grabbed his attention,
[20:25] what he saw was the leaves
on the forest floor.
[20:30] Most of the leaves which had been
torn off the trees and laid dead
[20:37] on the forest floor, where the old,
brown leaves.
[20:43] But amongst those old brown leaves
there where several yellow leaves,
[20:49] even a few green leaves. And some
of those green leaves where so
[20:56] freshly green, they could have
only been alive for a few hours,
[21:02] and now they laid dead
on the forest floor.
[21:07] Before he completed his insight,
his understanding,
[21:12] he checked to see what leaves remained
alive on the twigs and branches
[21:19] of those trees; And of course!
Most of the leaves remaining alive
[21:26] on the forest trees, where the
green leaves!
[21:31] But, even though a few green leaves
had been torn off and laid dead
[21:37] on the ground, there where still a few
curly old brown leaves, still clinging on,
[21:44] Even though the young green leaves
where torn off and laid dead.
[21:50] You understand what we mean,
even though young children die,
[21:55] there are still some of these old people
who keep coming to our center
[21:59] every Friday for years and years and years
still clinging on (Laughs).
[22:06] You know the old Grandma and Grandpa,
why aren't they dead yet? (Laughs)
[22:14] They're all still clinging on when these
young people die.
[22:20] And he realised that there
was nothing wrong.
[22:25] That's what they where saying there:
"there's something wrong,
[22:28] It can't be right, why are old people
still alive and young people die?
[22:33] It can't be right". Then he saw it was
right: It was the nature of life and death
[22:40] it's the nature of a storm which goes
through a forest, to mostly take
[22:46] the old leaves, but it always leaves
a few old leaves.
[22:50] And it always takes a few
young green leaves as well.
[22:54] Nothing is wrong,
welcome to life.
[22:59] That's the law of life in
which we live.
[23:03] Diseases, accidents, whatever happens,
mostly takes the old people first,
[23:07] but a few young people, and a few
very young people,
[23:11] and a few children as well.
That's our life.
[23:14] But the nice thing abut that
little story also
[23:17] not only is it true, but it's
a reflection from nature
[23:21] which we understand when
we are still, we can actually see that
[23:25] we can actually get the connections,
as in nature, as in our life
[23:30] we're not apart from nature,
we're part of nature.
[23:34] And from that we can also have a lot
of other really great understandings
[23:38] and the main thing I wanted to talk
about tonight, which I got on to, maybe,
[23:42] just kinda almost halfway through
the talk already
[23:45] Is actually just: well, young people die,
three deaths recently,
[23:52] And just what happens afterwards,
when a person dies.
[23:57] And, ever since I was really small
I had no problem in accepting
[24:04] the idea of reincarnation.
One of the reasons why
[24:08] It's got even firmer as a truth
it's by understanding the nature
[24:12] of the mind, we learn what this
mind actually is.
[24:15] We have become such a
materialistic society
[24:18] in so many ways, that even things
like love and kindness, even joy
[24:24] we think it's just something which
is a by-product of a brain.
[24:29] Just to be able to get some happiness
and joy by taking some physical stuff
[24:36] like a drug. And people just, sometimes
don't believe, when they come to see monks
[24:43] especially, or nuns; We are
pretty happy people
[24:46] and sometimes they come and say:
"Well, what drugs are you taking, monks?"
[24:52] (Laughs). That happened to me so
many times!
[24:57] One time, I was visiting a prison in UK
You know, we spend a lot of time in prison
[25:06] as monks, I often tell people: Visiting
prisons, I always would keep a log
[25:12] of how many hours and minutes I spent
doing community work in prison
[25:17] to be used as credit, in case I ever
got sentenced for something (Laughs)
[25:24] look, I've already done about... the
equivalent of about two or three months
[25:28] you should take that off (Laughs).
[25:30] But anyway, I was inside this jail,
cause it was a ceremony,
[25:33] somebody had sweet talked the British
government into putting a Buddha statue
[25:37] In the middle of an open prison,
a big one!
[25:40] And you know, it's very easy
for people to sponsor a Buddha statue
[25:44] especially inside a prison,
wow, it's amazing!
[25:46] And so we did a installation ceremony.
[25:49] And for those who ever come and see
some of the Buddhist rituals,
[25:53] one of the favourite ones is actually we
go around three times
[25:56] flowers, candles and incense, we go around
It's like an act of worship, reverence
[26:01] you know, it's interesting, where
this comes from we don't know
[26:06] but they also do that in Mecca, when
they go around the, whatever it's called
[26:10] ...the Kaaba, always
go three times around, wearing white
[26:13] this is incredible similarities between
our different traditions
[26:17] where they came from
I don't know, but it's... that's Buddhist
[26:20] Anyhow... There we where, going round
three times, and I was inspired
[26:25] I was happy, Amazing, something good
being done in a prison!
[26:29] Not just locking people up and
reenforcing how guilty they should feel
[26:34] but no, just something which
is inspiring
[26:36] and I was just so happy
with a big smile on my face
[26:39] much more than I usually have
cause, you know, more inspiration
[26:43] and at the corner of my eye I saw
these two prisoners
[26:46] they just got nothing to do,
nothing was on the TV that night
[26:49] so they just hung out to see
what the hell was going on
[26:51] with these crazy people with brown
robes and a Buddha statue
[26:55] so just, you know, having
a quick look
[26:58] and then I heard them, one
looking to me... looking at
[27:01] the other prisoner and
pointing to me
[27:04] he said: "That monk, he's on
the gear" (Laughs)
[27:09] If you don't know what gear means
you know, it's like, some sort of drug
[27:15] cause that's the only thing they
could explain the happiness from
[27:20] just some medication;
it's not medication!
[27:23] you know, it's meditation,
not medication (Laughs)
[27:27] you don't need that stuff to be
happy and have a really good time.
[27:33] And I tell people, I don't know why
people laugh at this, because it's true
[27:37] I'm a good time monk: I have a good time.
People say good time girl, a good time boy
[27:43] and that has other meanings, I'm
a good time monk, cause you're
[27:47] having a good time, you're happy.
[27:49] And, so you don't need the medication,
something else which goes on there
[27:53] and this is actually where you start
to realize: why do people wanna be happy
[27:58] with things? Material stuff. We're
far too focused on the material stuff
[28:05] and instead, those ancient
religions, especially Buddhism
[28:10] we've been focusing on the mind
for year and years and years
[28:13] that's the important part.
[28:15] So these days people don't
understand what the mind
[28:18] actually is. And still, great scientists
have been trying to prove that the mind
[28:25] is some byproduct of the brain
and they have failed miserably.
[28:29] for years and years and years.
It's about time that they face the truth
[28:35] that they're barking at the wrong tree
as they say
[28:37] that the mind is something totally
different
[28:40] fortunately there's a few scientists,
big ones
[28:43] who're actually seeing something
totally different
[28:46] one of them, you all saw recently,
or some of you saw
[28:50] who came to our global
conference on Buddhism
[28:53] Professor Bernard Carr.
I mention him cause
[28:57] he's a really close friend
we went to Cambridge together
[29:00] and he, Buddhist society, we chased
ghosts together in the psychic
[29:05] research society, chasing ghosts and,
Buddhists and astronomy as well
[29:11] and also theoretical Physics
[29:13] And he, you know, he lessened his
interest in Buddhism
[29:17] and went more into theoretical Physics
[29:20] I lessened my interest in theoretical
Physics and became more a Buddhist.
[29:23] But he made a wonderful analogy,
at our conference
[29:28] where he said We're really close
friends, it's great we've come together
[29:31] again. Ajahn Brahm went off to be
a well known Buddhist,
[29:36] under one of the great teachers:
Ajahn Chah; And Bernard, you know
[29:41] he gave up his Buddhism, he became
a close disciple of Stephen Hawking's
[29:47] He told me only recently, I went for lunch
with him when I was in Cambridge last
[29:52] October- November, I did realise just
how close he as to Stephen Hawking's
[29:57] so, In that movie, which they did of
Stephen Hawking's: brief... no,
[30:04] "The Theory of Everything" I think
they called it
[30:06] In that movie, one of the characters
in there was based on him
[30:10] based on Bernard. So much so
that Bernard got invited to the premiere
[30:16] in London. He actually walked on the red
carpet, which he thought was really cool
[30:20] So you know, very close... so he became
a disciple of Stephen Hawking's, I became
[30:25] a disciple of Ajahn Chah. And now we
sort of come together again and, he still
[30:30] he wants to spend the rest of his time,
you know because he is emeritus now,
[30:34] he's retired as professor of theoretical
Physics at Queen Mary College
[30:38] in London. He is the top Physicist
to try and reintroduce into science
[30:47] the primacy of the mind.
[30:50] So, what the heck do I mean,
what is the mind
[30:55] and this is a little exercise, when
you're giving a talk don't just
[31:00] talk at people, get them to contribute
[31:03] I am now going to ask you something,
and I want you to put up you're left
[31:08] hand or you're right hand, you
can't keep both hands down
[31:12] unless you're armless. If you got two
hands, put one of the up
[31:16] and be honest... Not yet! Come on, now
be patient! (Laughs)
[31:21] If you are happy, you know, more happy
than sad, having a reasonably good time
[31:27] put up you're right hand. If you're more
miserable, put up you're left hand, ok?
[31:32] Put up you're hand, doesn't matter which
one it is, keep it up.
[31:35] Those people who got the right hand
up, you're happy, now please point
[31:39] to the happiness for me, locate it
for me, where is it, where is it?
[31:45] point to it.
[31:47] You're all pointing to different places,
how come? you're head, is you're
[31:53] head happy?
[31:55] Now, you can put it down, this
is an exercise
[31:59] because it's so hard to locate happiness
[32:04] you're not imagining it, in fact,
happiness is a real thing, it's tangible
[32:10] you know it, you experience it many
times.
[32:13] Different forms, but it's real.
Where is it?
[32:16] next time you're angry, where
is anger? where is it?
[32:21] Is it in you're head, is it in your
tummy? where is it?
[32:25] The point is, that we can't locate
these things, because these are things
[32:32] which exist in the mind.
[32:36] Just like you locate, or define
a garden, what is a garden?
[32:41] a garden is where you find trees
and flowers, and lawns.
[32:48] A garden is defined by what exists
in it. So if you want to know what the
[32:54] mind is, the mind is where Love,
Kindness, Happiness, Anger, Anxiety,
[33:06] Fear, Hope, Peace, where all of those
flowers and weeds live.
[33:16] That's what defines the mind.
[33:19] So it gives you an understanding of
what that mind actually is.
[33:25] It takes it away from being some
philosophical, superstitious,
[33:29] what actually is it?
[33:31] Where you find those things, those
qualities that is where the mind is.
[33:39] And you will soon figure out it does not
live in physical space
[33:44] It doesn't live in you're brain,
or in you're body here.
[33:50] Now, to prove that again:
one of Bernard's and my common
[33:57] friends is actually at house where
we had lunch together
[34:00] A few weeks ago
it's guy called Jeff
[34:03] one of my other friends from Cambridge
had a lot of time together
[34:07] Uhhh, I know that when my friend
Bernard came here
[34:10] I think, Cecilia who was here, just
a few hours ago, she asked him in public
[34:15] "Ok, you where a close friend of Ajahn
Brahm, tell us all the dirt...
[34:20] what did he really get up to as a
student, what was the naughtiest
[34:24] thing he did, come on, let us know"
[34:26] now, Bernard doesn't know much,
but my friend Jeff does know a lot
[34:30] So that's why I've never invited him
over here (Laughs)
[34:34] I was just a student, like everybody
else! Did really stupid things.
[34:38] But fortunately I didn't get caught
(Laughs)
[34:42] But anyway...
[34:46] He's daughter, Pascal, she
came, she's married now, and got a kid
[34:53] she came and saw me just in October
as well, and, when she was at grade one
[34:59] primary school, that was when the
teacher asked her a question
[35:03] this is a brilliant story. In philosophy,
this is actually where you start
[35:09] with a story, a logical sequence which
you end up in a place
[35:15] you never expected to end up, and
it changes the way you look at life
[35:19] and this came from a five year old kid
who later on went to do post graduate
[35:25] research in Oxford, in Biochemistry.
So, she was obviously just a really gifted
[35:30] kid, but at five years of age, her
teacher, grade one, at school
[35:34] asked a question: "What is the biggest
[35:37] thing in the world?" That was the
question. And, one kid put her hand up
[35:42] this is... he wrote to me about this and
this is actually what happened
[35:45] (Puts hand up) "My daddy", five year
old kid, you know?
[35:50] For a five year old kid, daddy is huge.
And some other kid said
[35:53] "No, no no miss: an Elephant" they'd
just been to the zoo, Elephant is much
[35:57] bigger than anybody's daddy.
[36:00] "No, no miss: A mountain is much bigger
than an elephant" and actually you're
[36:03] getting somewhere, this is the whole
point of the exercise, getting the kids
[36:07] to actually think and imagine
and to know more
[36:11] and then Pascal put her hand up
and said: "no miss, my eye is the biggest
[36:16] thing in the world". And at that
even the teacher didn't understand
[36:21] what the heck she meant. "What
do you mean you're eye?"
[36:24] And then this five year old genius
said: "Well, miss, my eye can see
[36:32] her daddy, my eye can see an elephant
and a mountain and so much more
[36:38] if all of that can fit into my eye, my eye
must be the biggest thing in the world"
[36:47] that is genius. It's genius because
it sees things in a different perspective
[36:54] than other people think. And it's, you
can't fault it. It's just seeing things
[37:00] from a different angle, and now you
know what's the biggest thing: you're eye
[37:04] cause everything you see can fit
into it. It's huge!
[37:09] But, I wrote back immediately and said:
9 out of 10, but not 10 out of 10
[37:15] because, you're mind can see everything
you're eye can see, and many other stuff
[37:23] you can't see with you're eye,
imaginary things, flying pigs
[37:28] (Imperceptible) Elephants, you can
imagine all of that sorta stuff
[37:32] you'll never see that.
[37:35] And you're mind can also hear stuff
real and imaginary sounds
[37:41] it can smell, it can note tastes,
it can feel feelings in the body
[37:47] even like phantom limbs, sometimes.
Real and imaginary sensations
[37:52] It's also got it's own area, you know,
the love, the kindness, the fear
[37:56] In fact, I argued, Everything you can
ever experience and know in life
[38:07] can fit into you're mind.
So, you're mind is the biggest thing
[38:16] Not in the world, because
you can know the world
[38:21] and that can fit into you're mind.
You're mind is even bigger than the world
[38:28] Now that is a logical argument, which
I've never had any Philosopher manage
[38:35] to tear apart, and deny. It's just looking
at life in a different perspective
[38:41] and coming up with an incredible answer
about how huge and powerful
[38:47] you're human mind is.
Which is why people continue to report
[38:55] to me weird and strange things...
Mind-games and stuff...
[39:02] You know I told this story
a long time ago
[39:05] and people said "that's true"
but they didn't actually believe it
[39:09] but I, I heard it from the source,
and the source swore to me
[39:14] I asked him again and again "Yes it
Happened!"
[39:17] The guy who was an Anagarika
for one year at Serpentine Monastery
[39:22] Went over to Germany to
complete his degree
[39:26] first day at a University campus
he walked past the ATM machine
[39:32] This is a great story, and you may
actually get some benefit from this,
[39:37] if you understand it and
practice it properly
[39:40] So, he walked past the ATM machine
and he said the ATM machine
[39:47] emitted a sound, he called it a
gurgling type sound
[39:51] very difficult to define, but it made
a sound just as he passed by
[39:56] and he took that as a welcome
from the ATM machine to the campus
[40:02] And so from that time on that was
his ATM, that's where he did all his
[40:07] transactions, and because he had been
by a monk like me
[40:12] A little bit weird and crazy but, he
would always give Loving-Kindness
[40:16] to the ATM machine. "May you be happy
and well, may you never run out of cash
[40:25] may you're clients never hit you and
swear at you when they find they've got
[40:31] no balance, may, you now, robbers never
tear you out of a wall with
[40:36] a four wheel drive or blow up trying
to get the cash
[40:39] may you live at peace and happy"
that sorta stuff
[40:43] He'd talk to the ATM, regarded
it as a personal being with consciousness
[40:48] and was always kind to it!
[40:51] And he swore to me, this
actually happened, having his lunch
[40:55] one afternoon, on a bench,
maybe about five or ten meters
[41:00] away from the ATM. No one had gone
close to that ATM machine
[41:05] for about 20 minutes, he was there
he saw it, no one had gone close to it!
[41:09] and he was sitting there, having
his lunch, and he heard the gurgling sound
[41:15] again, the machine gurgled at him
and he looked around, and he saw
[41:22] a twenty euro note come out
of the machine (Laughs)
[41:27] no one had put in any credit card,
punched in any numbers for twenty minutes
[41:31] it got twenty euros. And he went
to the machine
[41:36] with disbelief, but it was there
and he pulled it out: "does this belong
[41:40] to anybody?" no one claimed it
but of course they wouldn’t claim it
[41:44] because it was the ATM's gift to
It's friend (Laughs)
[41:49] Do you believe that? That
absolutely happened.
[41:56] People say it couldn't happen
therefore it didn't
[42:00] but that's not the case, any
scientist know it did happen
[42:05] it was there, it was real, just we
haven't figured out how that happens yet
[42:10] it's the way the mind works!
And somebody was telling me that recently
[42:14] I got this story, one very, uhh,
strong supporter was telling me
[42:19] That his old iPhone was not working,
you know, sometimes you're mobile
[42:24] phones you used them so much and they
get a bit passed it, but you know,
[42:28] he was just, you know he was trying to
live a simple life so instead
[42:31] of replacing it, get a new one, he kept
the old one.
[42:34] And when it wasn't working he
banged it, he hit it
[42:38] and of course it still didn't work
and then he realised: "I'm a Buddhist
[42:42] that's not the way you should do things"
so he apologized to his iPhone
[42:46] "I'm sorry iPhone, I should not
have hit you, I really apologize,
[42:50] I will never do that again, I wish
you all peace and happiness"
[42:55] and he said it started working
immediately. (Laughs)
[43:00] It did! I've tried that before, not
with iPhones, I don't have an iPhone
[43:07] but I've tried that so many times
even, where is... I saw her earlier,
[43:12] Ronnie, is she here? Veronica? She's
out the back somewhere.
[43:16] They where trying to open they're car,
I came back from a ceremony
[43:20] and I was just walking down the road
here, on a Saturday afternoon
[43:25] and our Kalyana-mitta group,
they where about to go out
[43:31] kite-surfing or doing something weird.
And anyway, the Boot of their car
[43:37] was locked, tight. And they
could not open it!
[43:41] and they where trying for twenty
minutes... OH! (Points) She's over there,
[43:45] there you are. How long where you trying
to open up that car before I came along?
[43:49] (Lady replies, unintelligible)
Only five or ten minutes, yeah
[43:52] How many people tried?
(Lady replies, unintelligible)
[43:56] Only two of us, but you couldn't do it?
Yeah there we go
[44:01] So I came along, and they said:
"Ajahn Brahm, please could you
[44:07] use your powers to open the car?"
(Laughs)
[44:14] So I'm always a very kind monk, and
very helpful, and so I said:
[44:20] Ok, but one condition, I wanted
to make a deal
[44:25] The deal was that Ronnie, at the
back there, will become a nun. (Laughs)
[44:32] And she said yes, never ever imagining
I could do it.
[44:39] But of course, that's what you do.
You give it loving-kindness:
[44:43] Nice car, that was what I did,
nice car, and I put the key in
[44:47] and I turned it and it opened straight
away. And poor old Ronnie
[44:54] has to become a nun now.
Be careful, playing around with monks
[45:00] just, uhhh, it's very dangerous.
But fortunately, fortunately
[45:04] one of the other youth group members
is a lawyer (Laughs).
[45:10] She saw the loophole straight away
which is why Ronnie doesn't have
[45:14] to become a nun yet.
She said: "You never mentioned the time,
[45:20] maybe in fifty years or a next life
sometime, but, she promised
[45:24] yes she will become a nun but you
didn't say when"
[45:27] that was the loophole. (Laughs)
[45:29] But it's amazing what you can do with
the mind. And this is something
[45:33] which we see for such a long time,
the mind is huge!
[45:37] And I spent most of my life as a monk
investigating and getting to know it
[45:42] what it's really like, how powerful
it is. And, it is enormously powerful
[45:49] and as a scientist you wish you
could take that evidence out there
[45:53] and show it to people, so we realize
that, you know, this mind is incredibly
[45:58] powerful, and this is actually what
we should be doing in our modern world
[46:04] Strengthening the mind, not our brain!
[46:07] Not learning how to think, but learning
how to be still, and accessing much more
[46:13] of the power which we've lost, you know
with our mind.
[46:18] And it's incredible what it can do.
So, because of that, it's always
[46:25] been the case in Buddhism: focusing
on the mind, learning what your mind
[46:29] is like. The exercise which we do
is meditation, that's how you really
[46:34] strengthen the mind, get to know it.
[46:37] Simile to end up with now, cause
I'm going overtime again:
[46:41] Sometimes, the only way you can convey
these truths is through similes,
[46:47] Very hard to find similes but this is
one of the similes which I used
[46:51] the simile of the Emperor: So once
there was an Emperor, but every time
[46:57] the emperor came out in public,
the emperor was always covered,
[47:02] head to toe, with five pieces of clothing.
With boots that went right up to
[47:10] the thighs, with these trousers which
covered way over the top of the boots
[47:17] to the ankles and, you know, really high
up his... It wasn't HIS, don't know who
[47:21] it was; The chest. And a big jacket,
which overlapped the top of the trousers,
[47:27] when right up to the neck, and right
down to the arms. HUGE gloves, which
[47:34] overlapped the sleeves of the tunic,
and a helmet, like Darth Vader
[47:40] or something, which overlapped
the top of the tunic.
[47:43] So you could not see any part
of the skin or the eyes or the face
[47:49] of this emperor. You didn't know
who the emperor was.
[47:54] What is it? A girl or a boy?
Old or young? Asian, Caucasian,
[47:59] African or whatever. You couldn't
see the body at all, all you could see
[48:04] was the coverings, the five coverings:
the helmet, the jacket, the gloves,
[48:09] the trousers and the boots.
So no one really understood
[48:14] this powerful emperor, who it was.
[48:18] And the only way you can find out
is to take off those five pieces
[48:21] of clothing to find out what's
underneath.
[48:24] And in that simile, this is the five
senses: Seeing, hearing, smelling
[48:30] tasting and touching.
You're mind, the Emperor
[48:35] and it is the Emperor, controls
so much of what you do in life
[48:38] you're happiness, you're sadness,
you're ability to love or be loved
[48:42] You're physical health, you're peace.
It's all this Emperor inside.
[48:49] We don't know what it is, you know,
who we are.
[48:53] So, we take off those five pieces
of clothing: seeing hearing smelling
[49:00] tasting and touch, that's what happens
in meditation, close you're eyes
[49:06] and sight vanishes, really still, you
can't hear anything, can't smell,
[49:14] as long as no one... Farts. (Laughs)
Disappears.
[49:21] You know, that is why in Buddhist
temples they would light lots of incense
[49:27] (Laughs), Just in case, to mask the smell.
There's always reasons for this.
[49:36] And you're not tasting anything,
and because you're sitting perfectly still
[49:41] and just watching you're breath, soon
you're body vanishes
[49:47] Can't feel the feet, can't feel
you're hands, no aches and pains
[49:51] and when you're body disappears
then you're breath disappears,
[49:55] and you go, the last of those five
senses has vanished,
[50:00] and the only thing left is you're mind,
the sixth sense, that's what happens
[50:05] in meditation, it's what you do.
So you carry on like this, and soon
[50:09] everything of those five senses vanishes:
You're girliness, your Sri Lankan'nes,
[50:17] your Englishness, that's all outside
in the body, being old, being young
[50:21] that's body stuff, when all that vanishes
you find out who this Emperor is inside
[50:28] for you're self! Not theory, not believing
in somebody else: you're own
[50:32] direct experience. And that is what
meditation does.
[50:36] You find out what is this mind,
and it will blow... actually how can
[50:42] knowing the mind blow you're mind?
(Laughs) But you know what blowing
[50:46] the mind means. It will literally just
really amaze you, just how powerful
[50:50] is this mind.That's what the monks
and nuns do! So much time, and then
[50:55] the body vanishes and disappears,
you see these beautiful lights
[50:59] in the mind, incredible bliss
and power.
[51:03] Therefore you understanding this mind
is much more powerful than this body.
[51:12] Little driver, gets into this body for
a lifetime, and afterwards goes and gets
[51:18] another body. Or just goes to incredible
other places where that mind can live
[51:25] for long periods of time. And how this
mind creates time, creates stuff.
[51:35] If you want to know who the creator is,
it's not some God in the sky, You are
[51:42] the creator, this mind.
Once you know that, woof!
[51:47] You know just how you can get
twenty euros out of an ATM. (Laughs)
[51:53] Very useful skills in today's economy.
Thank you for listening (Laughs).
[52:00] (Audience): "Sadhu, Sadhu, Sadhu!"
[52:04] Ok, very good. Ok, let's get some of
the questions, especially from, yeah,
[52:11] Overseas. Here we go. (Reads iPad):
"Since a while my meditations end in the
[52:25] mindfulness stage, I lean back, relax
and suddenly notice how agitated
[52:29] I actually am. It get's worse during
meditation so I have to stop. What to do?"
[52:33] Follow the instructions which I give!
So if you start by, especially paying
[52:40] attention to the peace o'meter, then you
find when the peace o'meter get's
[52:45] more and more still, the you're actually
looking at what's really important
[52:50] so you de-agitate yourself. So sometimes
it's because the mindfulness is not put
[52:56] in the right place. You're not really
seeing what the problem is.
[53:00] And if you put the mind on the
peace o'meter as I mentioned here,
[53:04] It will probably be solved.
Next question (Reads):
[53:08] "Letting go. Are these two words
overused these days? People seem
[53:12] to be careless users for anything
they cannot get or do not want
[53:15] to put effort into."
Exactly! You go to work, and instead
[53:20] of people saying you're fired, or we
sack you, they say: "We have to let
[53:24] you go" (Laughs). They don't have to
let you go! You're sacking me!
[53:30] But, it is overused, and sometimes
people can be: "Well if we just let go
[53:36] we get nowhere in life!" Exactly! There
is the time for letting go, and the time
[53:44] for doing stuff. So, if you need to
go to the toilet, do not let go
[53:51] in this room (Laughs). You put effort
to get to the toilet first, and then you
[53:58] let go. Do not let go when you're riding
on the back of a motorbike going home,
[54:06] Cling and be attached! So letting go
is a skill which we use when it's
[54:16] appropriate. When there's nothing
to do, then we let it be, when there's
[54:21] something to do then we put
effort in.
[54:24] But the point is, we know how to put
effort into our lives, we've been doing
[54:29] that ever since we went to school!
But we haven't learned how to be still
[54:35] and let things be, which is one of the
reasons we're a crazy society.
[54:40] So let go: great! Learn how to do that.
A skill which you can use whenever
[54:47] it's necessary. When there's nothing
to do, do nothing, let go.
[54:54] How many times is it... there's nothing
to do, but we still have to do something.
[54:58] Cause we don't know how to let go.
[55:01] Lastly, from Germany: "What is
transcendent... transcendent mind?
[55:05] Is it what remains of us after death?"
Transcendent mind, I don't know.
[55:12] Uhhhmm, I know that one of our monks
many years ago, he, you know, he had
[55:20] a bad teeth, and you know, we live in
Serpentine, it's a long way to go to
[55:23] the dentist. And you know what it's
like these days, you have to make
[55:27] an appointment, and when you go
to the appointment then you have
[55:31] to wait and then... It's just such a pain
in the... actually probably the pain
[55:35] in the neck is worse than the pain
in the mouth to go to the
[55:38] dentist sometimes. So this monk
decided "ah yeah, it's a waste of time
[55:41] going to the dentist". So he decided to
pull his own tooth out. I saw him!
[55:47] He just, he went to the workshop,
got a pair of pliers and just
[55:51] yanked his tooth out. And I just
happened to be going to the workshop
[55:55] at Bodhinyana Monastery and I saw
this bloody tooth, you know, in a pair
[55:58] of pliers. "What have you been doing?"
"Oh you know, took my tooth out,
[56:01] It's much cheaper and much quicker
than going to the dentist."
[56:05] And I thought "How did you do that?"
[56:08] And he said "It's very easy, because..."
It's a wonderful little teaching
[56:13] He said: "When I decided to pull my
tooth out, that didn't hurt. You know,
[56:19] thinking about, planning doesn't hurt.
And when I went to the workshop
[56:23] that didn't hurt, when I picked up the
pliers that didn't hurt, when I put
[56:26] the pair of pliers on the tooth that
never hurt, when I wiggled that hurt!
[56:31] But you know, just for, maybe, twenty
seconds, thirty seconds and it was out
[56:36] and it didn't hurt much afterwards.
It's only twenty seconds of pain,
[56:39] that's all." But if that was you, (Points
at audience), even before you'd even
[56:44] picked up the pliers it would hurt
like hell (Laugh).
[56:49] You see what pain is? Anticipation.
He trained himself not to anticipate,
[56:53] being in the present moment, so it's
only ten seconds of pain.
[56:56] So that is what we call how to...
Trancen...DENTAL meditation (Laughs).
[57:06] And that's enough for tonight,
thank you so much. (Clapping).
[57:12] OK, let's pay respects to Buddha, Dhamma
and Sangha, I apologize for that,
[57:16] but those of you who know me,
know what to expect.
[57:30] Araham samma-sambuddho bhagava
Buddham bhagavantam abhivademi.
[57:48] Svakkhato bhagavata dhammo
Dhammam namassami.
[58:00] Supatipanno bhagavato savakasangho
sangham namami.
[58:33] (Speaking, unintelligible)