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Getting Over Someone You Never Even Dated: Why You're Stuck

Mark Groves
Mark Groves
May 28, 2020
10 Min. Lesezeit
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A question arrives with a confession inside it. The person asking has been hung up on someone for more than a year, and the awkward detail is that the two of them were never actually dating. He is, by their account, "the nicest person I've ever met." He is secure, independent, and kind. He moved away for a while, came back, and now they are friends, yet the person asking is still standing exactly where they stood a year ago, in what they call the friend zone, turning the same question over and over: what is wrong with me? In a six-and-a-half-minute video published in May 2020, relationship coach and podcaster Mark Groves takes that question apart. His answer is not really about the man at all. It is about availability, the stories we tell ourselves about being chosen, and the quiet protection that unavailable people provide. Below is his argument, the practical steps he suggests, and the reason "getting over" someone you never had may begin with a different question than the one most people ask.

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Why do we get hung up on someone we never even dated?

Groves starts from the answer that most people need to hear first: nothing is wrong with you. "You're human, and then it's okay, it happens," he says at the top of the exchange. The mechanics, as he describes them, are familiar. We get into obsessive thinking. We want to change someone's behavior. We want them, finally, to choose us, and we want it badly enough that the want starts to feel like the whole story.

The first thing he does is reframe the phrase the asker keeps using. The person says they like to think they are secure in themselves. Groves points out that the attachment itself is evidence of something else. The asker had caught the contradiction on their own: a person who was secure would not spend a year circling someone who had moved away. "You caught it yourself," he tells them. The obsession is not a verdict on their worth. It is information about where their security is still under construction.

Are we chasing people who are not available?

This is the pattern at the center of the video, and Groves names it plainly. We pursue people who do not choose us. We chase people who are unavailable, sometimes people who are outright difficult, and then, when we finally meet someone genuinely kind, we discover they are already in a relationship. The story we build around that discovery is revealing. We tell ourselves that all the great people are taken, so the only way in is to wait for them to break up, and then we sit by the phone. "You're like, call me," he says, and then imagines the reply: "I can't call you, I just tried to mend my relationship."

He is careful not to pile shame on top of this. The pattern is common, and it is easy to recognize once someone describes it out loud. But he treats it as an inventory, not a sentence. If you keep choosing people who cannot choose you back, the useful question is what you are getting from that arrangement.

Is the "nicest person ever" part of the trap?

Here the video makes its most distinctive move. Ordinarily, when someone is stuck on a partner who treats them poorly, the advice comes quickly and bluntly: get rid of him. Groves notes that this response is ready to hand, and that no one can reach for it here, because the man in question is kind. That kindness is exactly what makes the situation hard to leave. Nice and unavailable is a combination that gives you nothing to push against and nothing clear to walk away from.

His reply is a single line that reorganizes the whole problem. "He's the nicest person I've ever met," he repeats back, then says the person has taught them something important: the type of person they are interested in. The next step is not to find the one perfect man. It is to widen the frame. Groves reaches for the idea of a scarce world, in which this one person seems like the only option, and then corrects it. There are, he says, something like seven billion people. "You don't even have to be good at math," he adds, and even a poor calculator arrives at more than one. His instruction is to look for someone who is nice and available, and interested in you.

Should you tell them how you feel?

Before concluding that the relationship is hopeless, Groves asks a question that many people in this position have never seriously answered: have you ever actually declared what you want? Have you said that you care about them, that you are interested in a relationship with them? If not, he argues, you are holding on to a possibility without ever giving the other person a real chance to respond. "If you never actually take a shot, you never hit it," he says, attributing the line to Michael Jordan.

He gives concrete language for doing it. If he were in the asker's place, he says, he would tell the man directly: I am actually interested in you, I feel like there is chemistry here, and I would be interested in dating. The honest answer may still be no, and Groves acknowledges that. But a no you have heard is a different thing from a maybe you have been constructing alone. The other side of that conversation is also clear. If the answer is no, the way forward may involve stepping back from the friendship altogether. He offers two versions of that: explaining that you cannot hold the friendship while your feelings are unresolved, or saying simply that you can no longer be around him in the same way.

What does the obsession say about your past?

Groves then asks the asker to examine something older. Did you have a parent who was around but never really chose you? Someone who seemed available, who was physically present, but who did not show up emotionally in a way that made you feel picked? He suggests this can be the place where we learn to think about someone incessantly without ever moving toward them. We keep the vigil going, and nothing advances.

He ties this to rumination. Children who ruminate, he says, can grow into adults for whom worry becomes a trap of self-sabotage. The reasoning is direct. When we worry, we are not functioning at a high level, and the cost shows up in the body as well as the mind, including effects on the immune response. Worry also holds us hostage, because it feels like effort while producing no progress at all. The loop looks like action from the inside. From the outside, nothing moves.

Why does waiting to be chosen keep you stuck?

The most useful sentence in the video may be the one about power. "We think that when we're dating, we're waiting to be chosen," Groves says. His correction is that you have to date from the space of choosing. Waiting places your power outside yourself, in the hands of someone who has not picked you. Choosing puts it back where you can use it.

He pushes this into the question of self-love. If you truly loved yourself, he suggests, you would make choices that make you feel worthy of receiving someone who can show up as available and kind. This is not an accusation that you do not care for yourself. He frames it as an upgrade. Your security and your worth grow when you make choices that match what you say you want, instead of rehearsing the same wish in silence. The person asking has been stuck in a loop they have not yet been able to see from the inside, and the way out runs through action rather than more analysis.

He also points to the asker's own phrasing as a clue. They have always been drawn to people who are moderately available but never quite choose them. That is a precise description of the trap, and Groves treats it as the crux of the matter.

Is unavailability actually protecting you from getting hurt?

This is the argument that gives the video its emotional weight. Groves suggests that by repeatedly choosing people who are not available, we are unconsciously protecting ourselves from availability itself. He lays out the chain of associations that most of us carry without naming: availability equals love, love equals openness, openness equals vulnerability, and vulnerability carries the fear that we might be rejected and abandoned.

"By not choosing available people, we are unconsciously protecting ourselves from availability." (Mark Groves, in the video, around 6:00)

In that light, the unavailable man is not a random misfortune. He is a form of protection, because he keeps the question of rejection at a safe distance. And Groves makes a sharp point about this safety: it is an illusion. You are, he says, living in an experience of rejection anyway. It happens first when you do not share your voice and claim what you want, and second when you stand around someone who is not claiming you. Waiting for a maybe is not the same as being spared the pain of a no.

Where to go from here

Groves' guidance is practical, even if the subject is emotional. The video suggests several concrete moves, all of which he presents as options rather than rules.

  • Write the list honestly, and include the word "available" twice. He stresses that when you write out what you want in a partner, "available, available" belongs on it. Nice is not enough.
  • Look for nice and available. The goal is not to find a replacement for this one man but to recalibrate toward people who can meet you.
  • State your interest directly, if you have not. Say what you feel and what you want, and let the answer be real rather than imagined.
  • Decide what the friendship is for. If the answer is no, consider whether you can remain close while your feelings are unresolved, or whether stepping back is the honest choice.
  • Examine the old script. Ask what it was like to have a caregiver who was present but did not really choose you, and how that might be shaping the vigil.
  • Date from choosing, not waiting. Move your power out of the rumination and into decisions you can actually make this week.

The video is short, and it does not promise that a single conversation will end the longing. What it offers is a change of frame: the obsession is less a referendum on the person you cannot have than a clue about the kind of availability you have been avoiding. Once you see that, the question shifts from how to get over someone you never dated to what you are ready to choose for yourself.

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[0:00] how do I let go of someone I'm being

[0:02] hung on I've been hung on I've been hung

[0:05] up on for over a year and we were never

[0:08] even dating problem is is that he is the

[0:10] nicest person I've ever met ever ever

[0:15] ever he's very independent and secure in

[0:19] himself and I like to think that I am -

[0:23] you're pointing to a different story

[0:25] there but if I am why am I still so

[0:29] attached to him hmm you caught it

[0:31] yourself he moved away for over a year

[0:33] and I still was obsessively thinking

[0:35] about him he's back now and we are

[0:37] friends but I'm still in the same place

[0:40] the friendzone I was over a year ago

[0:43] what's wrong with me first off nothing

[0:45] wrong with you you're human and then

[0:47] it's okay it happens we get into

[0:49] obsessive thinking we want to change

[0:51] someone's behavior we want to make them

[0:53] finally choose us just please and you're

[0:56] so nice you're the nicest person I've

[1:00] ever met but you're not available it's

[1:04] really important that when we write out

[1:06] the list of the things we want we write

[1:08] available available and you know it's

[1:11] like that at that point I mean really we

[1:15] got to be honest here pursuing this

[1:17] person have you ever declared that you

[1:19] care about them that you're interested

[1:20] in a relationship with them that's one

[1:22] thing if you've never done that then

[1:24] there's an opportunity so you're holding

[1:26] on to the possibility never actually

[1:28] giving them the chance this is usually

[1:30] the part where people go narcissus get

[1:33] rid of him he's a [ __ ] [ __ ] but it

[1:34] no one could say that because this guy

[1:36] is the nicest person ever so he's nice

[1:40] which is really great but he's not

[1:42] available relationships requires someone

[1:44] who is available and if you never

[1:46] actually take a shot you never hit it I

[1:48] think it's Michael Jordan who said that

[1:50] so this is an opportunity for you to

[1:52] tell them that now it's also a good

[1:54] chance for you to actually take into

[1:58] account an inventory of yourself and

[2:00] what you pursue I would say that this is

[2:03] a option O'Ree patterning of we pursue

[2:07] people who just don't choose us we might

[2:10] chase people who are unavailable and we

[2:14] of the people who are dicks but when we

[2:15] find someone who's nice they're not

[2:17] available or they're in relationships

[2:18] and then we come up with that great

[2:19] story where we go why are all the people

[2:22] who are great in relationships you know

[2:25] you got to catch them when they break up

[2:27] from those relationships right you're

[2:28] just waiting you're like call me and

[2:30] then they're like I can't call you just

[2:32] tried to moan my relationship long okay

[2:34] so if I was you one I talked to them I'd

[2:38] say hey I'm actually interested in you I

[2:40] feel like there's chemistry here if you

[2:42] actually feel like there's chemistry and

[2:44] I'd be interested in dating too

[2:46] you don't think that's going to happen

[2:47] the way to move on is perhaps you can't

[2:50] actually hold friendship with him and

[2:51] you can explain that to them or you can

[2:53] say I just can no longer be around or

[2:55] you can go soon if that's what you can

[2:58] cease you and the other thing is I would

[3:01] do an assessment of yourself did you

[3:04] have parents who were around did you

[3:05] have one that you always wanted to

[3:07] choose you who seemed available and was

[3:10] there but never really chose you never

[3:12] really was there and that could be where

[3:14] we incessantly think and we obsess about

[3:18] someone but we're never actually doing

[3:20] anything there's no movement forward

[3:22] this can happen because as kids we

[3:24] ruminate it a lot we ruminated about

[3:26] everything and worry can become a great

[3:28] trap of self-sabotage worry is a great

[3:31] trap of self-sabotage because there's no

[3:33] progress when we worry one we're not

[3:35] functioning at a high level it impacts

[3:37] us emotionally and physically immune

[3:39] from an immune response and the other

[3:41] side is that it holds us hostage because

[3:45] we and when we're looking and we go he's

[3:47] the nicest person I've ever met and can

[3:52] I go find someone who's nice and

[3:53] available right so this person has

[3:55] taught you the type of person that

[3:57] you're interested in if you live in a

[3:59] scarce world he's the only one he's not

[4:01] the only one and you don't even have to

[4:03] be good at math there's like seven point

[4:04] something billion people I don't even

[4:06] know but there's a lot and even if

[4:08] you're bad at math you'll come to an

[4:09] answer of more than one and so I would

[4:12] look for nice and available nice and

[4:14] interested in you why do you desire

[4:17] someone who you don't have a chance with

[4:20] that shows you that there is because you

[4:23] said he's very secure in himself and I'd

[4:26] like to think that I am too

[4:27] but if I am why am I so attached to him

[4:30] it tells you that you're not as secure

[4:33] as you could be because if you were

[4:36] secure you'd recognize that oh [ __ ] yes

[4:39] in a relationship is that you're a [ __ ]

[4:41] yes for them

[4:42] availability love for another comes like

[4:46] choice of relationship comes when

[4:48] someone makes choice of relationship for

[4:50] you we forget and this happens a lot we

[4:53] think that when we're dating we're

[4:56] waiting to be chosen you have to date

[4:59] from the space that you are choosing you

[5:01] are choosing so your power is living in

[5:04] the in the rumination the worry then

[5:07] that is nice you're stuck because if you

[5:10] let that go what if you let that go what

[5:13] you don't have anything you have

[5:15] friendship and you want relationship so

[5:18] if you loved yourself you'd make choices

[5:21] that make you feel worthy of receiving

[5:24] someone who can show up available and

[5:26] kind this is not saying that you don't

[5:29] care about yourself or you're not secure

[5:31] this is saying that your security and

[5:35] your worth can get upgraded by making

[5:37] choices that actually say okay I've

[5:40] worried about him I loved him I loved

[5:43] him

[5:43] he's kind and I get that I'm sort of

[5:46] stuck in a trap with him because I have

[5:49] always obsessed about people who are

[5:51] moderately available but never actually

[5:53] choose me thank you for protecting me

[5:55] from getting hurt because that's

[5:56] ultimately what the behavior is by not

[5:58] choosing available people we are

[6:00] unconsciously protecting ourselves from

[6:02] availability availability equals love

[6:04] equals openness equals vulnerability

[6:07] equals the fear that we might get

[6:09] rejected and abandoned by them but you

[6:11] are literally living in an experience of

[6:13] rejection one by not sharing your voice

[6:14] and claiming yourself in two by standing

[6:16] around someone who is not claiming you

[6:18] choosing you all those things alright so

[6:21] we [ __ ] crushed that didn't we

[6:23] [Music]

[6:29] you

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Mark Groves is a human connection specialist, keynote speaker and writer who helps people show up fully in their relationships, their leadership and their lives.

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Mark Groves suggests starting by asking whether you have ever clearly told the person you are interested in them, since holding onto a possibility without testing it keeps you stuck. He also recommends examining the pattern of pursuing people who are unavailable and widening your sense of who is out there. Stepping back from the friendship may be the honest move if the answer is no.
In the video, Groves argues that repeatedly choosing unavailable people can be a way of protecting ourselves from availability, which we unconsciously link with vulnerability and the fear of rejection. Obsessive thinking can feel like effort while producing no movement forward. He also links the pattern to childhood experiences with caregivers who were present but did not truly choose us.
Groves says that if you have never declared your interest, you have not given the relationship a real chance, and he suggests saying directly that you are interested and feel chemistry. He presents the honest answer, even a no, as better than a maybe you have been constructing alone. He frames the conversation as a way to stop waiting in silence.
Groves describes a pattern in which we pursue people who do not choose us, and when we finally meet someone kind, we find they are already in a relationship. He suggests that waiting to be chosen keeps our power outside ourselves. His advice is to date from the space of choosing and to look specifically for someone who is both nice and available.
Groves argues that worry can become a trap of self-sabotage because it produces no progress and holds us hostage. He says that when we worry, we are not functioning at a high level, and the strain affects us emotionally and physically, including the immune response. He links rumination to habits that can begin in childhood.
In the video, Groves contrasts dating from a place of waiting to be chosen with dating from a place of choosing. When we wait, we place our power in someone else's hands, and when we choose, we can act on what we want. He presents this as a way to upgrade security and self-worth through choices that match our stated desires.

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