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Why Forgiving Yourself Is Harder Than Forgiving Others

Regina Giannetti
Regina Giannetti
Dec 15, 2020
8 Min. Lesezeit

Von Regina Giannetti | Autoconsciente Podcast

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Guilt is a prison, and forgiveness is the key that opens the cell. That is the image Regina Giannetti uses to open Episode 68 of Autoconsciente, her Portuguese-language mindfulness podcast, and it is the spine of the whole conversation. Her argument is less comfortable than it sounds. Most of us assume that if the person we hurt forgives us, the weight should lift. Often it doesn't. In many cases the blame was never really about what we did to someone else, but about what we did, or failed to do, to ourselves. And if that is true, then the only person who can truly release us is the one who has been holding the charge all along. Which is exactly why self-forgiveness is so hard.

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Why does guilt keep going after you've been forgiven?

Giannetti begins by separating three things we tend to blur together. Remorse, she says, is the awareness that we have done wrong. Repentance is the honest review of our attitude that follows. Both are healthy when they lead to an apology and, where possible, to repair. Guilt is different. She describes it as a low-grade unease fueled by harsh self-judgment and by self-punishing ideas: we hurt ourselves, deprive ourselves, sabotage ourselves, and come to believe we are unworthy of love, happiness, or good things. Remorse points toward action. Guilt points inward and stays there.

That distinction explains a common experience. You can apologize, be pardoned, and still feel the same heaviness the next morning. Giannetti's point is that the sentence has been passed by a court that never adjourns. The other person's forgiveness settles a debt between two people; it does not touch the internal tribunal that keeps the case open.

What does the word "forgive" actually ask of us?

One of the most useful moves in the episode is linguistic. Giannetti traces forgiveness back to Latin and describes its core meaning as generosity: to release someone from paying a debt, from serving a sentence, from the need for reparation. "Relax, you don't owe me anything," she says in effect. Forgiveness, as the word has come down to us, assumes two parties. There is someone who forgives, a subject, and someone who is forgiven, an object.

Self-forgiveness collapses that structure. If I am both the one releasing the debt and the one who owes it, the transaction seems to make no sense. Giannetti credits the British writer and educator Colin Tipping, who spent much of his career on forgiveness and died in 2019, with posing the question sharply: when we forgive ourselves, who is forgiving and who is being forgiven? (She notes that his books have not yet been translated into Portuguese, so her account is a reading of his ideas rather than a summary of his full body of work.)

The practical consequence is what makes the question more than a philosophy seminar. Giannetti argues that, in acting as both forgiver and forgiven, we slip into the roles of prosecutor, judge, juror, witness, and defendant at once. Once that happens, our own pardon sounds suspicious. We doubt it. It feels staged, invalid, without effect. So we do not feel forgiven, even when we have said the words.

What makes us feel unworthy of forgiveness at all?

Giannetti names three obstacles. The first is the logic of the word itself, just described. The second is what she calls the dark aspects we recognize in ourselves: selfish attitudes, impure thoughts, anger, envy, resentment, lies, manipulations, desires we have never confessed. When we see these clearly, forgiveness can feel like a request we have no standing to make. Her image for this is blunt: a merciful God can forgive us, but we burn in the hell of our own conscience.

The third obstacle is the most personal, and Giannetti tells it from her own childhood (around the 9:45 mark). She grew up with phrases that kept surfacing whenever she believed she had done something wrong: God is watching. God punishes. When she made mistakes she judged serious, she would ask for forgiveness, but never feel sure it had been enough or that she was worthy of receiving it. Each request for pardon sank her further into guilt. She is careful here. She says she does not intend to pass judgment on any religious doctrine, and she frames the ideas that once shaped her as serving a purpose at a particular stage of her life, one that later changed as her understanding did.

That framing matters for the wider reader. Giannetti is not describing a failure of faith. She is describing a belief structure in which punishment was the only available model of accountability. Until a person can imagine accountability that does not require suffering, self-forgiveness will keep sounding like an exemption they haven't earned.

Is the darkness inside us a reason to stop trying?

Here the episode turns, and it is the most striking passage for anyone who has tried to be "good" by hiding the parts of themselves they dislike. Giannetti describes the path as one that may require a new understanding of what it means to be human and what our experiences are for. In a portion of the talk around 14:30, she argues that the human mind is limited to its own categories, and that the sense of separation it generates is the source of the trouble. Our darker aspects, in this view, are not evidence that we are fundamentally broken. They are part of the terrain we travel, and some of our most important teachers.

She goes further, with a line that has been the center of many listeners' responses: the darkness is part of the game, and we need it to... (she sets up the thought that contrast and difficulty are part of what we came here to learn from). The practical upshot is that you cannot forgive what you refuse to see. Self-forgiveness begins with acknowledging the full inventory, including the parts you would rather not show anyone.

Around the 19:40 mark she gives a line that reframes the whole problem. If we are all expressions of one reality, she suggests, then the separation we feel from others, and from ourselves, is an illusion. Forgiveness then stops being a transaction between a judge and a defendant and becomes a re-recognition of something already whole. "I owe nothing to myself," she says, describing a shift in perspective she has been practicing. But she is honest that the shift is not instantaneous. The anguish of guilt doesn't simply disappear because you have understood something intellectually.

What does a practice of self-forgiveness look like?

Giannetti is clear that this is a practice, not a single decision. She describes her own experience of failed attempts at forgiveness and of discovering that the failure was usually a matter of approach. Reflecting on what happened, understanding the emotional state she was in, and recognizing that some of what she was carrying had never been hers alone all helped. Reflection alone was not enough. The forgiveness had to be enacted, repeated, and held with patience.

The episode closes (from about 27:45) with a guided exercise built around short phrases. The instruction is to say them with a clear and sincere intention, with the conviction that you are speaking to the part of yourself that has been punishing you. You can repeat them as many times as you need. Giannetti leads the listener toward feeling the pulse of life within, toward naming yourself as your own divine self, and toward phrases of gratitude and apology: thanking yourself for what you have carried, saying you are sorry, and allowing yourself to be well. (Her full self-forgiveness meditation is offered separately to members of her YouTube channel, according to the episode description.)

What is useful about the approach, even without the meditation, is its order. Giannetti does not begin by asking you to feel forgiven. She begins by describing why forgiveness feels impossible, then moves to the inventory of darkness, then to an alternative framing of accountability, and only then to the act itself. The sequence respects the reasons a reader might resist.

Where to go from here

If this conversation resonates, start with the episode that precedes it. Episode 67, on guilt, lays out the distinction between healthy remorse and the self-punishing kind that Episode 68 builds on. Giannetti also notes that the Autoconsciente series is serial, with episodes that deepen themes in sequence, and that a playlist titled "Autoconsciente do Zero" presents the full run in order for those starting from the beginning. Listen with a notebook. Write down the specific phrases of self-punishment you recognize in yourself, and notice which of the three obstacles she names shows up most often in your own life: the wording of forgiveness, the darkness you refuse to see, or the childhood conditions that taught you penance was the only route to pardon. Naming the prosecutor is the first step toward letting the case close.

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[0:00] I

[0:04] [Music]

[0:12] welcome you to Self-

[0:14] Awareness.

[0:16] This is a podcast that understands you so

[0:19] you can understand yourself better. I am Regina

[0:22] Gianete, an instructor and practitioner of

[0:25] mindfulness. Essentially, someone like

[0:27] you, just a human being in search of

[0:30] happiness and inner peace.

[0:33] I create this podcast to share

[0:35] reflections and actions for a more

[0:38] self-aware life.

[0:40] My intention is that when you finish an

[0:42] episode, you feel better than

[0:45] when you started watching it.

[0:47] [Music]

[0:51] And that always works, you know?

[0:55] And my book is coming soon! It's coming out

[0:58] in August. There will be 15

[1:01] hand-picked episodes of self-awareness to

[1:04] support you during these uncertain times,

[1:07] including a favorite of many,

[1:10] the caterpillar on the window. In addition to the

[1:13] episode scripts to dive into, there will be

[1:16] a few surprises, you know? Follow me

[1:19] on Instagram, I'll be

[1:20] launching it there on the Regina profile.

[1:24] Anete and you, more centered.

[1:27] And for those listening to me here for the first

[1:28] time, a very warm welcome. I invite you

[1:32] to listen to episode zero, where I

[1:34] explain the purpose of the podcast.

[1:37] Self-awareness is serial. The episodes

[1:39] follow a sequence in which the themes are explored in greater

[1:41] depth. And if you like what you

[1:44] hear here, share it on your

[1:47] social networks and messaging groups.

[1:50] Let's spread good vibes around.

[1:56] [Music]

[2:00] Episode 68.

[2:02] On forgiving yourself.

[2:11] In the last episode, we talked about

[2:14] guilt. The intention was to understand this

[2:17] feeling that is so difficult, so

[2:20] imprisoning, that we all have.

[2:23] And for very similar reasons, isn't it?

[2:26] Certain forms of guilt seem universal.

[2:29] Guilt towards parents, towards children,

[2:33] guilt for having made mistakes, for having failed, for having

[2:37] made decisions that brought bad

[2:39] results. Guilt for not feeling good

[2:42] enough, and so on. At least

[2:46] we're not alone in our guilt. It's

[2:50] worth remembering that remorse, as an

[2:53] awareness of a wrongdoing, and

[2:56] repentance, as a review of our

[2:58] attitude,

[3:01] are both positive and bring

[3:04] personal growth when they motivate an

[3:06] apology and eventual reparation.

[3:10] Guilt, on the other hand, is the unease fueled by

[3:14] harsh self-judgment for our

[3:16] mistakes and imperfections,

[3:18] also fueled by self-punishing ideas and attitudes

[3:21] .

[3:23] We punish ourselves by hurting ourselves,

[3:26] depriving ourselves of something,

[3:29] sabotaging ourselves, considering ourselves unworthy,

[3:32] undeserving of love, happiness, of

[3:35] good things.

[3:37] Guilt is not positive; it does not bring

[3:40] personal growth. On the contrary, it

[3:43] paralyzes and imprisons us.

[3:47] If guilt is a prison, then forgiveness is the key that

[3:50] unlocks the cell.

[3:53] And it's not so much about forgiving the other person whom we

[3:57] may have harmed.

[3:59] Because, and this is very common, we

[4:02] can receive forgiveness from the other person and

[4:05] still continue to feel

[4:07] guilty.

[4:09] Furthermore, many times the blame lies not in what

[4:12] we did to someone else, but in what

[4:15] we did or failed to do to

[4:18] ourselves. In that case, there's really no one who

[4:21] can forgive us except

[4:24] ourselves.

[4:26] So, ultimately, we only become

[4:29] completely free from guilt through self-

[4:33] forgiveness. And that's where our biggest

[4:36] difficulty lies.

[4:39] In the discussion about self-forgiveness that I

[4:41] started on Instagram, people

[4:43] overwhelmingly shared phrases like:

[4:46] "I can't forgive myself. It's difficult, I

[4:49] can't, I don't know how to forgive myself."

[4:53] Ultimately, is it possible to forgive oneself?

[4:56] So how do we do that? That's what

[5:00] we're going to explore in this episode. The

[5:02] autistic process may require a new

[5:04] understanding of what it means to be human and the

[5:08] purpose of our experiences in

[5:10] life. And I'm following this path,

[5:13] I'm practicing this, and I'm going to share

[5:16] some reflections and lessons learned here

[5:19] with you.

[5:21] What I'm very clear about is

[5:24] that no matter what we've

[5:26] done, we all have the right to

[5:29] forgive each other.

[5:31] [Music]

[5:38] To begin with,

[5:40] why is it so difficult for us to

[5:42] forgive ourselves?

[5:43] What prevents us from succeeding in this? I'm

[5:47] going to highlight three reasons here that

[5:49] seem very strong, based on what I've

[5:52] observed in myself and in others, and also

[5:55] from what I've read about forgiving

[5:57] ourselves. The first is the meaning of the

[6:00] word itself, which, whether one likes it or

[6:03] not, already defines forgiveness, already creates an

[6:06] idea of ​​the circumstances of forgiveness. The word "

[6:09] forgive" comes from the Latin "perdonare," which is the

[6:13] combination of two words, "perari,"

[6:17] meaning "to give."

[6:20] And when researching the definitions of forgiveness,

[6:22] what we find are attitudes of

[6:25] generosity and altruism.

[6:28] To forgive is to release someone from paying a

[6:31] debt, from suffering a punishment, from

[6:34] serving a sentence. Forgiving also means letting go

[6:37] of the need for reparation, it means absolving someone of a

[6:41] wrong. It's like saying, "Relax,

[6:44] you don't owe me anything."

[6:47] So you see, the idea of ​​forgiveness implies

[6:50] that there must be someone who forgives, a

[6:53] subject, and someone who is forgiven, an

[6:57] object. When we forgive each other,

[7:01] that condition is present, okay? But

[7:04] in the case of self-forgiveness, that's not what

[7:06] happens. And this creates a break in

[7:09] our logic.

[7:11] If subject and object are

[7:14] different entities and one can only exist in

[7:17] relation to the other, how

[7:20] can we be both at the same time? The

[7:23] person who raises this issue is a

[7:25] British writer and educator who spoke extensively about

[7:28] forgiveness, Colin Tipping. He passed away in

[7:32] 2019, leaving behind a beautiful body of work on the

[7:34] subject. Unfortunately, his books have

[7:36] not yet been translated into

[7:38] Portuguese.

[7:40] Colin raises the following question:

[7:42] when we talk about forgiving ourselves,

[7:46] who is forgiving and who is being

[7:48] forgiven?

[7:50] To whom are we appealing when we ask

[7:52] forgiveness of ourselves?

[7:55] This is not just an interesting philosophical question

[7:57] ; it has a lot to do with the

[8:00] practical aspects of self-forgiveness, because it

[8:03] seems that in acting as both forgiver and

[8:06] forgiven, we are trying to be

[8:08] prosecutors, judges, jurors, witnesses,

[8:11] and defendants.

[8:15] Suddenly, in our minds, it's as if

[8:18] we're suspected of forgiving ourselves, and

[8:21] that forgiveness is sham,

[8:24] invalid, and has no practical effect. And

[8:28] so, we don't believe in our

[8:31] own forgiveness. We don't feel

[8:34] forgiven. A second reason that

[8:38] makes self-forgiveness difficult is the

[8:40] dark aspects that we recognize in ourselves, the evil

[8:43] within us. We have selfish attitudes,

[8:47] impure thoughts, and

[8:50] negative feelings of anger, envy, and resentment.

[8:54] We lie, we manipulate,

[8:57] we have unconfessed desires.

[9:00] A corner of our psyche smells of

[9:02] dryness. A

[9:04] merciful God can forgive us,

[9:07] but we

[9:09] burn in the hell of our

[9:11] conscience.

[9:13] We can even consider ourselves

[9:15] unworthy of divine forgiveness itself, which would be

[9:18] the third reason.

[9:21] I lived through that. How far back

[9:23] can I remember myself from my

[9:25] childhood? I often found myself tormented

[9:28] by guilt for having done something wrong,

[9:31] for having behaved badly.

[9:34] Some phrases kept coming to mind.

[9:37] God is watching. God punishes.

[9:41] I grew up with these phrases.

[9:44] When I committed mistakes that I considered

[9:46] serious, because of my attitudes or

[9:49] thoughts, I would ask for

[9:52] forgiveness, but I wasn't sure if it was

[9:55] enough, if I was worthy of forgiveness,

[9:58] and I would sink deeper into guilt. Well, the fear of

[10:02] divine punishment is very present in

[10:05] our culture, isn't it? I do not intend to

[10:09] pass judgment here, nor to create

[10:11] controversy with any religious doctrine.

[10:15] In my view, everything happens for a reason

[10:18] . And each of us is drawn to what

[10:21] makes sense to us at a given

[10:23] moment. Each of us is drawn to

[10:27] that which reflects our state of

[10:29] consciousness at any given moment. And so it is with

[10:34] me; if in my childhood I

[10:36] lived with the idea of ​​divine punishment, it

[10:39] served a purpose in my life, and

[10:43] then that changed. Today I have a

[10:46] different understanding of God, of life, and of

[10:49] myself. The reasons that previously

[10:52] prevented me from practicing self-forgiveness no longer

[10:56] prevent me. And I opened myself up to the

[10:58] possibility of forgiving myself.

[11:06] I

[11:11] will then share some of what

[11:13] I have learned. Perhaps something like this could be useful to you.

[11:17] I even mentioned some passages about this

[11:19] in episode 44, which is the peace we

[11:22] desire in the world. And I'll pick them up again

[11:24] here.

[11:26] I was born into a Kardecist Spiritist family and

[11:29] educated at a Catholic nuns' school

[11:31] . My parents wanted me to be raised

[11:33] in

[11:35] Christian values.

[11:37] I used to hear a lot about the gospel of Jesus.

[11:40] Whether at home or at school. And the love

[11:43] of Christ has always inspired me greatly, and

[11:45] continues to inspire me.

[11:47] As a child, I had an ideal for

[11:50] my life. I want to be a good person.

[11:54] But at the same time, I didn't see myself as

[11:57] a good person. I became aware of my

[12:00] darker aspects. The evil within me lived

[12:03] in conflict with it.

[12:06] After finishing high school at the

[12:08] convent school, I began to drift away

[12:10] from religion.

[12:12] In my mind, Jesus' message of

[12:15] unconditional love didn't align with

[12:17] ideas of atonement, sin, and karma. And

[12:21] not knowing how to deal with this

[12:23] contradiction, I distanced myself from dogmas

[12:26] and doctrines. Maybe that way I wouldn't

[12:29] feel so guilty. because of my

[12:32] darker aspects.

[12:34] I spent over a decade without opening a

[12:36] book, in a spiritual hibernation,

[12:40] but my questions and

[12:42] inner conflicts with evil never ceased to

[12:45] exist.

[12:46] After turning 30, it was difficult to

[12:49] cope with my darker side,

[12:52] my questions and discomforts, so

[12:54] I started body therapy

[12:57] with flower essences and conversations.

[13:00] And my therapist Angela, for whom I

[13:03] am very grateful, introduced me to a

[13:06] world I didn't know existed:

[13:08] the world of psychology and philosophy from

[13:11] a spiritual perspective.

[13:14] And I really found myself there, I found the

[13:18] answers I was looking for.

[13:20] My interest in reading has returned.

[13:23] Dozens of books gradually changed

[13:26] my perspective on life.

[13:28] And in that respect, two were particularly

[13:31] noteworthy. We do

[13:33] not have the book "Evil" psychographed by Eva

[13:36] Pierracos, which is part of a

[13:39] self-development program called Pathwork.

[13:42] I've talked about this project here before. And

[13:45] Conversations with God by Neil Donald

[13:48] Walsh. This blew my mind. It's

[13:52] a very surprising book.

[13:55] Looking back on the last 25 years of my

[13:58] life, I've had phases of reading a lot, of

[14:01] working on myself, and phases of not studying at all,

[14:04] but experiencing what I learned.

[14:07] Right now, I'm in a

[14:09] study phase. I'm fascinated by

[14:11] Jungian analytical psychology, which resonates strongly

[14:14] with everything I believe in. And of course, I practice

[14:17] mindfulness.

[14:19] But anyway, what has changed for me

[14:21] regarding those three reasons that

[14:24] prevent us from practicing self-forgiveness,

[14:27] starting with my understanding of God.

[14:30] Well, "understanding" is a figure of speech, isn't it

[14:33] ? The human mind is limited to its

[14:36] own experience and cannot

[14:39] grasp the divine.

[14:41] But as far as I can understand,

[14:44] I see God as the universe, the

[14:46] primordial consciousness and substance of

[14:49] all that exists, manifested in

[14:52] infinite forms,

[14:54] from the smallest subatomic particle to the

[14:57] suns and planets, the wind, a bird,

[15:01] a flower.

[15:03] I, you, all of us are manifestations

[15:08] of the divine, experiencing existence

[15:11] in a material dimension, acting with a

[15:14] level of consciousness limited by that

[15:16] material dimension.

[15:19] At our level of human consciousness, we

[15:21] see ourselves as separate from God, immersed in

[15:25] a system of opposites where we only

[15:27] know one thing in opposition to or in

[15:31] relation to another.

[15:33] We know what light is in relation to its

[15:35] opposite, which is darkness. High versus

[15:39] low, pleasant versus

[15:42] unpleasant, right versus

[15:45] wrong, good versus evil.

[15:50] Human experience takes place within this

[15:52] context of opposites, which we

[15:54] can also call duality.

[15:57] Let's say that duality is one of the rules

[15:59] of the game around here. We need evil to

[16:04] know good.

[16:06] Through experiences in duality,

[16:09] we expand our consciousness and

[16:11] reconnect with our

[16:13] divine essence, which is one with all that exists.

[16:17] Along this journey, mistakes are part of it,

[16:21] suffering is part of it, fear, hatred,

[16:25] rejection, all the negativity that

[16:28] troubles us so much, it's all part of it.

[16:32] They are our teachers on the path

[16:35] back to perfect unity with the

[16:37] universe.

[16:45] Today I understand that our problem

[16:48] is not having dark aspects. Our

[16:51] problem is judging, denying, repressing,

[16:55] fighting against these aspects, wanting to

[16:57] eradicate them from ourselves. This creates

[17:00] internal conflicts within ourselves and external conflicts with

[17:04] others, reinforcing the

[17:07] darker aspects.

[17:09] So what should we do with the evil within us?

[17:12] First, accept that evil is part of

[17:15] our humanity and learn from it,

[17:19] because evil does have its

[17:21] consequences, doesn't it? Every action generates a

[17:24] reaction.

[17:26] That's one of the laws of life. Not to

[17:29] punish us, but to awaken us.

[17:33] God does not punish.

[17:36] Why would he punish manifestations of

[17:38] himself? It doesn't make sense. The idea of

[17:42] punishment comes from man. It stems from a

[17:45] dualistic view of a struggle between good and

[17:47] evil. This idea has its reasons.

[17:51] It has a function to fulfill. In our

[17:54] evolutionary journey, we

[17:56] are not all on the same page. Each

[18:00] person is living their own process

[18:02] in their own time and participating in the

[18:05] processes of others. We are all

[18:08] evolving together.

[18:10] So, we made a mistake.

[18:13] Let's repair the harm we've caused, ask

[18:16] forgiveness from others, and forgive others

[18:19] when they harm us. Whatever we do

[18:22] to others, we do to ourselves, because

[18:26] in the end we are all one and the same. Is

[18:31] n't it said that forgiveness is divine?

[18:34] So, by forgiving, we are

[18:38] experiencing the divine within us. We

[18:41] recognize ourselves as a human self,

[18:44] with an identity, history, memories,

[18:47] experiences, characteristics, and everything

[18:50] else.

[18:51] But we are not just this human self. In

[18:55] reality, we are a divine self, having

[18:58] experiences as a human self that sees itself as

[19:01] separate from that divine self.

[19:04] And look how interesting.

[19:06] If in our illusion of separation we are

[19:09] two, the divine self and the human self, then

[19:14] we have what is needed for the self.

[19:18] We are simultaneously the one who forgives and the one who

[19:20] is forgiven.

[19:22] Forgiving ourselves is achievable; it's a

[19:26] reality.

[19:33] I keep thinking, from the perspective

[19:36] of our divine self, forgiveness has already been

[19:39] given unconditionally. I

[19:42] owe nothing to myself, he would say.

[19:45] But okay, our human selves need these

[19:48] formalities.

[19:50] So let's see how to put

[19:53] self-forgiveness into practice using

[19:55] real-life experiences. It

[19:57] all begins with the decision to forgive,

[20:00] as Mariana observes.

[20:02] I thought that time could heal

[20:05] the pain of our mistakes, and I waited.

[20:09] But the anguish of guilt wouldn't go away,

[20:12] even after I had

[20:14] redeemed myself, or at least tried to correct

[20:17] the mistake. After spending years

[20:20] dwelling on my mistakes,

[20:22] I've discovered that time doesn't heal anything if I

[20:25] don't want to heal. Forgiveness is a

[20:29] rational,

[20:31] constructed decision, and yes, a difficult one.

[20:34] I'm still learning how to deal with

[20:36] some things. I can't always manage it, but that's

[20:40] okay. I forgive myself for being imperfect,

[20:44] and from that point on, I allow myself to be

[20:46] better tomorrow. She says that

[20:50] when we feel guilty for having

[20:52] harmed someone, it's necessary to ask

[20:55] the person for forgiveness, not only to ask for

[20:59] forgiveness and to repair the mistake, if

[21:02] reparation is possible, out of respect for the person and

[21:05] also to ease our

[21:08] conscience.

[21:10] If it's too difficult to face the person,

[21:13] we have the option of writing a letter.

[21:16] This works very well for me. I

[21:19] reflect, I give myself time to write, I

[21:23] put everything I want to say in the letter,

[21:25] things I might not be able to say if I were to

[21:28] say them face to face.

[21:30] I think writing a letter also

[21:32] relieves our tension, but it doesn't replace

[21:35] a conversation afterwards.

[21:38] At some point, we do need to

[21:41] reach out to the person, reiterate our

[21:44] apology, and listen to their response. What if the

[21:48] person doesn't forgive?

[21:50] This can happen.

[21:53] Thís confessed to a boyfriend that, at the very

[21:55] beginning of their relationship, he

[21:58] wasn't the only one, and this poisoned the relationship. What

[22:02] followed was a time of resentment, guilt, and

[22:05] failed attempts at forgiveness. The

[22:07] relationship ended, and she wonders,

[22:11] "How can I forgive myself if I don't have the

[22:14] other person's forgiveness?" I present here the perspective

[22:17] of Robert Wright, an American professor of

[22:20] psychology who specialized

[22:22] in forgiveness. He says: "Forgiving yourself

[22:27] doesn't depend on receiving forgiveness from

[22:29] others, just as forgiving others doesn't

[22:32] depend on them asking for forgiveness." The fact is

[22:35] that we are not responsible for the

[22:37] choices of others.

[22:39] If he doesn't want to forgive us, it's because he

[22:42] 's not ready for it. If he chooses to

[22:45] hold a grudge, there's nothing

[22:48] we can do. Holding a grudge

[22:52] is like drinking poison and expecting the

[22:54] other person to die. I heard this phrase

[22:57] once, and it perfectly defines the effect of

[22:59] resentment and who that

[23:02] resentment affects. Ultimately, the fact that the

[23:06] other person doesn't forgive us doesn't interfere with

[23:09] our right to forgive ourselves.

[23:12] Part of the self-forgiveness process involves

[23:15] reflecting on the attitudes that

[23:17] led us to make mistakes and acknowledging our

[23:20] limitations.

[23:22] Vivi's story helps me a lot to think that I

[23:25] did the best I could at that moment,

[23:28] with the knowledge I had and the

[23:31] emotional state I was in. She

[23:34] says she applies the same logic to

[23:36] others, which helps her forgive them

[23:39] as well.

[23:40] Vivi also shares two books that

[23:42] helped her develop the ability to forgive. The

[23:46] Book of Forgiveness by Desmontuto and

[23:49] Stronger Than Ever by Brney Brown. Those of you

[23:53] who follow me on Instagram will see

[23:55] these recommendations there.

[23:57] Marília, on the other hand, besides reflecting on

[24:00] her shortcomings, tries to learn something

[24:02] from the situations.

[24:05] I think that's what led me to act the way I did,

[24:07] and how it could have been. What did I lack

[24:11] to make things different? I try to

[24:14] process these issues as if they were

[24:16] internal conversations, and I seek to use

[24:19] this learning as a tool, as

[24:22] if a purpose were to emerge from it.

[24:24] [Music]

[24:31] Self-forgiveness may require

[24:33] more work than

[24:35] awareness and reflection.

[24:38] And Will's sharing shows that.

[24:42] For a long time, he had attitudes that hurt

[24:44] his boyfriend and blamed himself a lot for the end

[24:47] of the relationship. She became

[24:49] depressed and sought

[24:51] therapy to understand the causes of her

[24:54] behavior.

[24:56] Nothing I did was out of malice, but it

[24:59] ended up hurting my loved ones.

[25:02] Today I am aware of this. I

[25:05] apologized to everyone, freed myself from

[25:07] guilt, and won back my boyfriend. He

[25:10] says:

[25:12] "For Leo, forgiving himself has been a

[25:14] constant exercise in compassion and

[25:17] acceptance.

[25:19] He's working through an old guilt for having

[25:21] hurt an aunt.

[25:24] When he closes his eyes, it's as if

[25:26] no time has passed.

[25:28] He tries to gather that part of himself that was left

[25:30] behind, helpless, lost in

[25:34] time. I try to embrace him and take care of

[25:37] his wounds.

[25:40] Noele, on the other hand, had an experience of self-

[25:43] forgiveness through prayer.

[25:46] Even after reflecting on what

[25:47] happened and all the variables, the

[25:50] feeling of guilt always prevailed.

[25:53] One day in prayer, I opened my heart to

[25:57] God and had compassion for myself,

[26:00] forgiving myself, recognizing that it's okay to make

[26:03] mistakes and that I was no longer that

[26:05] person from the past. From then on, I

[26:09] could live in peace.

[26:15] Well, I also have a way of

[26:17] working on self-forgiveness to share

[26:19] with you here.

[26:21] It's a meditation with our two selves,

[26:24] the divine and the human, and with the phrases of

[26:28] Rooponopono, which is a Hawaiian tradition

[26:31] to promote forgiveness and healing

[26:34] in relationships. I find Rooponopono

[26:37] interesting because it is..." It's very simple,

[26:40] yet effective.

[26:43] When we say these phrases with a

[26:45] clear and sincere intention, they generate

[26:48] elevated feelings of compassion,

[26:51] gratitude, and a desire to restore

[26:54] inner peace.

[26:59] We begin by bringing to mind the

[27:01] attitude for which we ask forgiveness.

[27:04] For example, I was impatient and aggressive

[27:07] with that person. I made a serious mistake at

[27:10] work.

[27:12] I wished ill on someone. I have mistreated

[27:15] myself because of my failures. I

[27:18] blame myself for overeating. I

[27:21] judge myself for my weaknesses.

[27:24] Speak of the attitude objectively,

[27:28] without judgment.

[27:30] Then, we do the Ro-Poponopono.

[27:34] The first phrase is: "I'm sorry."

[27:37] This is an expression of

[27:39] sincere regret for the wrongdoing.

[27:42] Then comes, forgive me.

[27:45] Say this with the conviction that you

[27:48] deserve unconditional forgiveness.

[27:51] Next, I love you. This is you

[27:54] declaring love for yourself, your

[27:57] divine self, and your evolving human self.

[28:02] And finally, I am grateful.

[28:05] Here you thank for the opportunity for

[28:07] growth that the situation brought you and

[28:11] thank for the forgiveness that was already given even before

[28:14] you asked.

[28:17] You can Say the phrases as many times as

[28:20] you like and repeat the meditation for several

[28:24] days. Forgiving yourself is a process.

[28:29] And how would this meditation look?

[28:33] Let's try it.

[28:35] Close your eyes.

[28:52] With your eyes closed,

[28:54] bring your hands together over your heart.

[28:58] Try to feel your heartbeat

[29:01] .

[29:07] Feel the pulse of life within you.

[29:15] How precious is the life that pulsates within

[29:19] you.

[29:26] Feel your breath in your chest area.

[29:32] Rest in your breath for a few

[29:35] moments.

[29:45] In your mind, another you now appears

[29:50] before you. Looking

[29:53] at you,

[29:56] smiling at you.

[30:01] It is your divine self.

[30:04] It has a luminous aura around it, and

[30:08] its presence brings you much peace.

[30:12] Feel its presence.

[30:25] Aloud, tell your divine self the

[30:28] situation for which you intend to

[30:31] forgive yourself.

[30:44] Now repeat after me: I'm sorry.

[30:52] Forgive me.

[30:56] I love you. I

[31:00] am grateful. I'm sorry.

[31:09] Forgive me.

[31:12] I love you. I

[31:15] am grateful. I'm sorry

[31:23] . Forgive me.

[31:26] I love you.

[31:29] I am grateful.

[31:33] And now

[31:35] your two selves embrace.

[31:38] The human and the divine are Just one. I hope

[31:50] you're well.

[31:53] Hugs.

[32:01] [Music]

[32:06] [Music]

[32:29] [Music]

[32:38] Self-Aware is a podcast distributed

[32:40] by Rede B9.

[32:43] Script and presentation by Regina

[32:45] Gianete.

[32:47] Editing by Somas.

[32:49] Jéssica Correa.

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Regina Giannetti is the voice behind Autoconsciente, a podcast about inner life that helps listeners understand their minds and emotions. It has more than 150 episodes, and its…

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Giannetti argues that often the blame lies in what we did or failed to do to ourselves, not in what we did to another person. In that case, the other person's forgiveness cannot reach the internal judgment that keeps guilt alive, so only self-forgiveness can fully release it.
In Episode 68, Giannetti describes remorse as awareness of a wrongdoing and repentance as a review of our attitude; both are healthy when they lead to apology and reparation. Guilt, by contrast, is unease fueled by harsh self-judgment and self-punishment, and it does not bring growth.
Giannetti points out that forgiveness traditionally requires a forgiver and someone forgiven, two distinct parties. When you are both, you can feel like the prosecutor, judge, jury, witness, and defendant at once, which makes your own pardon feel invalid.
Giannetti credits Colin Tipping, a British writer and educator who spoke extensively on forgiveness and died in 2019, with raising the question of who forgives and who is forgiven when we forgive ourselves. She notes his books have not yet been translated into Portuguese.
Giannetti suggests that the darker aspects we recognize in ourselves, such as envy, resentment, or unconfessed desires, are part of the human terrain rather than proof of being beyond forgiveness. Self-forgiveness starts with acknowledging the full inventory rather than hiding it.
Yes. Episode 68 closes with a practice of short phrases spoken with sincere intention, including expressions of gratitude and apology, which can be repeated as often as needed. A complete self-forgiveness meditation is offered separately to members of Giannetti's YouTube channel.

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