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Emotional Unavailability, Fear of Rejection, and Self-Trust

Peter Crone
Peter Crone
Nov 4, 2026
10 Min. Lesezeit

Von Peter Crone

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Some relationship struggles look like bad luck from the outside and like a verdict from the inside. That is the territory of an hour-long conversation published on Peter Crone's channel under the title "He Was Emotionally Unavailable (without realizing)," in which Crone sits down with a 26-year-old named Yotam who is charismatic, socially active, and sincerely hungry for closeness, yet keeps finding himself at the edge of his friendships and romances, waiting for the other person to pull away. Rather than treating the pattern as a flaw in technique, Crone works backward through Yotam's history, from a high-school breakup to a fifth-grade humiliation, and argues that the fear of rejection is a story a person learns to tell about himself long before he meets the people he is afraid of losing. The argument is an invitation to notice how that story shapes behavior in ways the person experiencing it cannot easily see.

The conversation is long, and the early movement is where the material is densest. What follows is a reading of that opening stretch, with the later, more fragmentary passages used only where they clarify the thread.

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What does a life "between friendships" feel like from the inside?

Crone opens with a question about what Yotam is struggling with, and Yotam answers with a metaphor drawn from his own working life. He is, he says, "always in and out of" things, like someone who "always says he's in between jobs." He applies that image to friendship: "I kind of feel like I'm all the time between friendships" (0:00). He has moved cities, changed jobs, and worked deliberately at approaching people and joining groups. He is not isolated. He is, by his own description, "pretty social." The problem is what happens after the initial warmth.

Two details matter here. The first is reciprocity. Yotam has friendships he has maintained for years, but he says, "I feel like I always want to spend more time with them than they do with me." The second is the texture of the drift. Things feel "almost there," and then people seem to be "receding," moving slowly back and away. This is the kind of experience that rarely produces a single identifiable wound. It produces a constant low-grade calculation: who is pulling back, why, and what I should do about it.

Yotam names the underlying pattern himself, and it is worth quoting because the rest of the conversation keeps returning to it. He describes "this underlying pattern of feeling not wanted, insecure, like not being loved," and then the belief that sits beneath it: "There's something wrong with me. Like there's something that has to be wrong with me and people apparently see it." That sentence, more than any single incident, is the spine of the episode. Crone's work is to find where it came from.

How does one childhood moment become a lifelong belief?

Crone asks Yotam to walk him through his romantic history, and the story begins with a relationship that ended when Yotam was in high school. He dated a girl for about a year, starting when he was 17 or 18. He rates it "maybe a six and a half out of 10" with a laugh, and the more painful part comes when he describes its ending. Partway through, she went quiet for a few weeks, apparently dealing with anxiety, and he didn't know what was happening. He contacted her father. When she returned, the relationship resumed, but her investment in him seemed to thin out over time until they broke up, and, as Yotam puts it, "that really really hurt" (3:41).

Crone does not dwell on the breakup as an isolated event. He moves back, to childhood, and asks about his parents and any notable events that might have shaped him. Yotam describes two loving parents who are still together, and a childhood that involved moving between countries. Then he returns, unprompted, to crushes: he has had them since first grade, and none were ever reciprocated.

The story that matters comes from fifth grade. Yotam had been flirting with a girl from his biology class, and he felt a real connection. He asked her out. She was standing with a friend, and she told him she wasn't interested. Then, as Yotam recalls, she and her friend started laughing. "I remember that was pretty impactful," he says (6:00).

Crone's response is the hinge of the whole conversation. He asks Yotam what that little boy decided in that moment, about the interaction and about himself. Yotam's answer is precise: "Maybe that um I'm not what I think I am in the eyes of others." Crone reflects it back as something deeper than embarrassment. "There's sort of a dent in your own trust, right?" he says. The boy was sure he had read the situation correctly. "Wait, wait, but I know you're into me." When the evidence contradicted that certainty, the lesson was not only that the girl was wrong for him. It was that his own instincts could not be relied on. Yotam agrees: "This happened in other instances as I got older as well."

"What I heard was there's sort of a dent in your own trust, right? … It's sort of what I felt then is that you're unable to even trust your own instincts." (Peter Crone, early in the episode)

This is the mechanism the episode keeps circling. A child who is laughed at for a sincere approach does not simply learn to be more careful next time. He learns that his perception of other people's feelings is unreliable, and that the most reliable information about his worth comes from outside him. Yotam's later conclusion, that the girls he dated could see "something bad" in him that he hadn't noticed, is the logical endpoint of that lesson. Crone's word for it, when Yotam describes the feeling, is "loser," which Yotam offers as a word that feels not quite right but close enough.

Why do people pleasers end up feeling unwanted?

The most useful image in the early conversation is a ship. Crone asks Yotam how the belief that he is somehow unwanted shows up in his behavior, and Yotam answers in a way that surprises even him. Earlier he had described himself as "a very active guy." Now he describes a kind of vigilance. He imagines that "them liking me or them giving me a chance is a ship," and that his job is "always trying to make sure that ship doesn't sink." So he shows up. He is flexible about when they meet. He says, in effect, whatever works for you is fine.

Crone recognizes the pattern and names it gently, as something the listener may also recognize. Yotam is "always looking out for worst case scenarios and trying to mitigate or avoid them." The exhaustion of that stance is a theme Crone returns to in the later passages, where he describes relationships that become tiring to maintain when one person is constantly managing another's reactions.

Here the title's irony comes into focus. Yotam is not emotionally unavailable in the way people usually mean it. He wants closeness intensely. But the way he pursues it, by making himself endlessly accommodating and scanning constantly for signs of withdrawal, tends to produce exactly what he fears. A person who is always bracing for departure often becomes the one who is hard to be close to: anxious, over-accommodating, and quietly asking for reassurance without naming it. Crone's point, as the episode frames it, is that the defense has become the problem. The belief "I am not wanted" generates behaviors that make the belief look accurate.

Yotam sees a version of this himself. Crone pushes him to look at his own word choices, and Yotam acknowledges a "little bit needy" quality. He also points to a line from earlier in the video, where he said he feels he needs other people more than they need him. Crone treats that sentence as diagnostic, the kind of phrase a person reveals without intending to.

Is the fear of rejection really about other people?

In the later stretches of the conversation, which are more fragmentary in the material available, Crone widens the frame from personal history to how the nervous system works. He talks about how the brain is wired, and he describes the system as being "wired to survive relationships." The implication is that a person's fear is not a judgment on his character. It is an old survival strategy running in the present, responding to cues that may or may not be accurate.

This framing matters because it changes what a listener is being asked to do. If the fear is only a fact about other people, the answer is to find better people or to become more impressive. If it is a learned survival response, the answer is to recognize it as a response and to notice when it is making decisions on its behalf. Crone emphasizes that many of these reactions happen before conscious thought, and that the body often registers them first. He also argues that attraction itself is shaped by these patterns: people are drawn to what feels familiar, which means someone raised around a certain kind of uncertainty may keep finding partners who recreate it.

Crone's most pointed language is aimed at the belief that a person is simply unwanted. When that belief runs the show, the listener is reading every ambiguous signal as confirmation. A text that takes a day to answer becomes evidence. A friend who cancels becomes a message. The episode does not claim these readings are always wrong. It argues that they are never neutral, and that a person who has absorbed the lesson that his own perception can't be trusted has no independent way to check them.

What should a listener take from this conversation?

The episode is less a set of instructions than a method of looking. Several threads are worth carrying out of it.

  • Notice where the belief started. Crone's approach begins with a specific memory, not with a general theory of self-esteem. The fifth-grade moment, with its laughter and its clear rejection, gives the belief a shape a person can examine.
  • Listen for the dent in self-trust. The question is not only "was I rejected?" It is "what did I conclude about my own ability to read people?" That conclusion often outlasts the original event.
  • Watch for the ship. If your job in a relationship feels like constant damage control, keeping the other person from leaving, that vigilance is itself information. Crone's framing suggests it may be generating the distance you're bracing against.
  • Treat the story as a story. "There's something wrong with me" is an interpretation, however old and convincing. It can be investigated the way any hypothesis can.

Crone's opening promise is worth returning to. He says he hopes that by the end, a listener "will discover how much love you in fact have to share with others" (0:00). The implication is not that the fear disappears by insight alone. It is that the love a person has to give has been obscured by a defense built long ago, and that the defense can be seen clearly before it is set down.

Where to go from here

If this conversation resonates, the most direct next step is the full episode, which runs more than an hour and includes the later passages on brain wiring, attraction, and the "you're not wanted" belief in greater detail than this reading can cover. The episode is part of Crone's Finding Freedom series. Crone's own offerings are listed at petercrone.com.

For readers working through their own version of this pattern, the useful questions are the ones Crone asks Yotam: What did you decide, in that moment, about yourself? What are you trying to keep from sinking? And how does the story you're telling change the way you show up for the people you want to keep?

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[0:00] In this beautiful episode, we talk about

[0:02] relationships with a young man called

[0:04] Yotam and how he has struggled and I

[0:07] would assert how most people struggle

[0:08] and why a lot of relationships don't

[0:10] work. So, if you have at any point in

[0:12] your life struggled to connect with

[0:13] others, romantically, friends, familial,

[0:16] professional, this episode's for you and

[0:18] I really hope by the end of it you will

[0:19] discover how much love you in fact have

[0:22] to share with others.

[0:24] >> So, my main struggles are romantic

[0:27] relationships and friendships. So, I

[0:30] haven't been able to

[0:32] find or stay in a meaningful and maybe

[0:36] secure friendship. I do have I I feel

[0:39] like I'm always like in and out of, you

[0:41] know, like someone who's

[0:42] um

[0:43] who doesn't have a job, who always says

[0:45] he's in between jobs.

[0:47] >> Yeah.

[0:48] >> So, I kind of feel like I'm all the time

[0:49] between friendships.

[0:51] >> Okay. Got it.

[0:52] >> do have friends that I've maintained the

[0:55] friendship with over the years, but

[0:58] they tend to be not not that reciprocal.

[1:01] I feel like I always want to spend more

[1:03] time with them than they do with me.

[1:05] >> Okay.

[1:06] >> And I just can't seem to find like I've

[1:09] moved cities, I've

[1:11] I've changed jobs,

[1:13] um

[1:14] >> Mhm.

[1:15] >> I'm I'm a very active

[1:17] guy. Like I I'm pretty charismatic. I

[1:20] can I I worked on like approaching

[1:22] people and like joining groups. I've,

[1:24] you know, so it's not like I'm not I

[1:26] stay at home all day. I'm a I'm

[1:28] >> Yeah.

[1:29] >> pretty social.

[1:30] It just always feels like it's almost

[1:32] there and I keep feel like people are um

[1:34] trying to like slowly uh get back and

[1:37] like receding. Like

[1:39] >> Uh-huh. Yeah, remove themselves.

[1:41] >> Yeah. The main contributor to that is

[1:44] >> [clears throat and cough]

[1:45] >> this underlying pattern of feeling not

[1:48] wanted, insecure, like not being loved.

[1:53] There's something wrong with me. Like

[1:56] there's something that has to be wrong

[1:57] with me and people apparently see it and

[1:59] that's why they have to like

[2:01] move back and try to get away and find

[2:03] their way out of this friendship.

[2:05] >> Yeah, that makes sense.

[2:07] Okay, do you want to sort of just tag on

[2:09] the romantic side what that relationship

[2:12] um experience has been like so far for

[2:14] you on planet Earth?

[2:16] >> Yeah.

[2:17] So I'm going to be 27 in a month and um

[2:21] >> Okay.

[2:21] >> I dated uh a girl in high school.

[2:25] So I was like 17, 18. We dated for a

[2:27] year.

[2:28] Um she broke up with me and ever since

[2:31] then

[2:32] I haven't found

[2:35] um any

[2:37] new relationship really.

[2:39] And I've tried like I've

[2:41] pretty much

[2:43] um developed feelings for

[2:46] all kinds of uh girls in my life in

[2:48] different places and cities that I've

[2:50] been in.

[2:51] And they all seem to be either

[2:55] emotionally unavailable or

[2:59] for some for some reason it just I just

[3:01] keep getting

[3:02] um

[3:03] no's.

[3:04] And it's been very frustrating.

[3:07] >> No, I get it and I'm sorry that you're

[3:08] going through that as a

[3:10] as a lovely guy who's, you know,

[3:12] handsome, smart, as you said, proactive

[3:14] and wants to share and have some

[3:16] companionship. I get how how much that

[3:19] can hurt, especially if you've been

[3:20] trying for a while. So let's go back. So

[3:23] this relationship you had up to 12th

[3:25] grade with this girl for a year

[3:28] she broke up with you. My guess is that

[3:30] probably hurt. So let's let's dive into

[3:32] that a little bit. What was that like?

[3:34] How would you kind of rate the

[3:36] relationship in all arenas and then

[3:39] I think more importantly what was it

[3:41] like when it ended?

[3:43] >> I would rate it maybe a six and a half

[3:45] out of 10.

[3:47] >> Okay.

[3:48] >> [laughter]

[3:49] >> Not that you have a lot to compare to,

[3:50] but okay.

[3:52] Exactly. Yeah, I got it.

[3:55] >> Um

[3:56] I should ask her actually. She just got

[3:58] married.

[3:58] >> Yeah.

[3:59] >> Um

[3:59] >> Okay.

[4:01] >> Anyways, she at one point like half a

[4:03] year or a bit more into the

[4:04] relationship, she like disappeared for a

[4:06] few like she didn't contact me for a few

[4:09] weeks.

[4:10] She was apparently going through through

[4:12] some anxiety, weird anxiety attack. I

[4:14] don't know, she went through something

[4:16] and I didn't know what was going on. I

[4:19] contacted her dad, you know, I like and

[4:21] then after a few weeks she like came

[4:23] back to reality and then we kept going

[4:26] on from there, but it slowly

[4:28] after that she like got further and

[4:30] further away from me like emotionally

[4:33] and how much she's investing in me.

[4:35] We broke up and that

[4:37] really really hurt.

[4:38] >> All right, well I appreciate all of

[4:39] that. I get a sense of maybe some of the

[4:41] things that you know, you have

[4:44] created in the way that you relate

[4:46] especially romantically to others.

[4:48] Um let's go back a little further. Tell

[4:50] me tell me about your childhood like you

[4:52] know, relationship to mom and dad, any

[4:55] notable events that you went through

[4:57] uh that you know, may have impacted you.

[5:01] >> Um I have

[5:03] uh two very loving parents.

[5:06] >> Yeah.

[5:06] >> Um they're still together.

[5:08] Uh like they love each other, they love

[5:10] me. We moved uh to different countries

[5:13] um when I grew up. That might have had

[5:16] some sort of impact, but I think like

[5:17] maybe the stories um that come up are

[5:21] I remember I was I always had a crush

[5:25] like since first grade I had crushes on

[5:27] girls.

[5:28] >> Yeah.

[5:28] >> Um okay.

[5:30] It was never uh reciprocal.

[5:32] It was always like I remember this was

[5:34] in fifth grade, but me and this girl

[5:37] from biology class we were flirting cuz

[5:39] I knew how to flirt back then. I

[5:41] >> No, like most 11 12 year olds.

[5:44] >> [laughter]

[5:45] >> You weren't You weren't a champion flirt

[5:47] at like 11, come on.

[5:49] >> No, I was I was pretty good, but

[5:51] anyways, so I felt like this a really

[5:53] good vibe between me and this other

[5:54] girl. I asked her out and then

[5:58] she was with her friend and they she

[6:00] told me like listen, I don't I'm not

[6:02] into you and then they kind of started

[6:04] laughing.

[6:05] She She and her friend.

[6:07] >> Yeah.

[6:09] >> So I just

[6:11] I I remember that was pretty

[6:13] impactful.

[6:15] Um

[6:15] >> Yeah, what did that what did that little

[6:17] boy that cute adorable sensitive boy

[6:19] decide at that moment about that

[6:21] interaction?

[6:23] And about himself?

[6:26] >> Maybe that um

[6:29] I'm not what I think I am

[6:31] in the eyes of others.

[6:33] >> Yeah, what I heard was there's sort of a

[6:35] a dent in your own trust, right? Cuz

[6:37] you're like, "Wait, wait, but I know

[6:39] you're into me." Like, you know, so it's

[6:40] sort of

[6:42] what I felt then is that you're

[6:44] unable to even trust your own instincts.

[6:47] >> Yeah, definitely.

[6:49] >> Make sense? Yeah.

[6:50] >> Yeah.

[6:52] This This happened in other instances as

[6:54] I got older as well.

[6:56] >> Yeah, okay. And then what about relative

[7:00] to girls, the fact that they laughed,

[7:02] you know,

[7:03] at you?

[7:06] Did you make up maybe a story about

[7:08] them?

[7:11] >> Like maybe they think I'm some sort of I

[7:13] don't know if loser is the word, but

[7:15] like

[7:16] that they see something in me that I

[7:19] hadn't noticed, [clears throat] like

[7:20] something bad about me, and they

[7:21] recognized it.

[7:23] >> Yeah, that's the word again that came to

[7:25] mind for me. So just sitting inside of

[7:27] that for a second, if who you are

[7:29] unbeknownst to yourself, right? Cuz you

[7:31] can't trust your own judgment. You know,

[7:33] that you're perceived as some sort of

[7:35] loser, what's that like to live inside

[7:37] of that narrative?

[7:39] >> I feel like it's

[7:41] um

[7:42] it's really confusing.

[7:45] >> Mhm.

[7:46] >> Uh there's some uh desperation in there.

[7:49] >> Yeah, there is, right?

[7:51] Can you feel that in your behavior

[7:52] sometimes?

[7:54] >> Definitely.

[7:55] >> Like

[7:56] a little bit needy. I mean, even in the

[7:57] video you left me, you said, you know,

[7:59] you feel that you need other people more

[8:00] than they need you. Just the choice of

[8:02] words that you said then.

[8:05] >> Yeah.

[8:06] >> Yeah.

[8:07] That's okay.

[8:09] And how does that show up as you look at

[8:11] it now if there's a little bit of

[8:13] desperation or neediness like how could

[8:15] you see that that might manifest in your

[8:17] actions or your words?

[8:20] >> [snorts]

[8:23] >> Kind of uh

[8:26] always trying to like make sure this

[8:29] the ship, let's pretend that what they

[8:32] them liking me or them giving me a

[8:34] chance is a ship, always trying to make

[8:36] sure that ship doesn't sink.

[8:39] So, I'm always be there for them. I'll

[8:41] show up. I'll I'll be very uh flexible

[8:44] like when we meet or like it's kind of

[8:47] like uh whenever you want is fine kind

[8:50] of this

[8:51] kind of people pleasing type of

[8:53] >> Yeah, I get it.

[8:55] Yeah, so you're sort of always looking

[8:57] out for worst case scenarios and trying

[8:59] to mitigate or avoid them.

[9:02] >> Yeah, chronically feeling like they

[9:05] don't actually want They're always

[9:07] trying to figure a way out to like Yeah,

[9:09] to find a way out.

[9:11] >> To get out of the relationship. How does

[9:13] that strike you and I know you're pretty

[9:14] young as you said 27. What does that

[9:18] feel like if you're constantly trying to

[9:20] avoid somebody leaving you, ending a

[9:23] relationship, always looking out for

[9:26] that worst case scenario?

[9:29] >> It's uh

[9:31] it's just uh

[9:32] saddening.

[9:34] >> Yeah.

[9:35] >> It ends up being exhausting.

[9:37] >> Totally exhausting for sure, right?

[9:40] So, here's the irony. If we look at the

[9:42] mechanics of it, right? So, everybody

[9:44] unbeknownst to themselves is going to be

[9:46] driven by these subconscious dialogues,

[9:48] narratives that got formulated or at

[9:51] least triggered in a young version of

[9:53] ourself, right? Like we could probably

[9:54] go back and we might talk more about

[9:56] your relationship with your mom and dad

[9:57] who sound wonderful and you know, they

[9:59] love you dearly and that can at

[10:01] sometimes

[10:02] be a detriment, you know, especially as

[10:04] a man, right? Like I feel like

[10:06] if I were to meet your mom, she's

[10:08] probably really sweet, adores you and

[10:10] you know, you have a great relationship

[10:11] with her. Which at some level,

[10:13] unfortunately, might be the barrier to

[10:16] you moving on as a man

[10:18] and having relationships with other

[10:20] women, right? Meaning

[10:23] back in the day, you know, I grew up in

[10:25] England, and I don't know, you know,

[10:27] where where

[10:29] when you grew up, it probably wasn't the

[10:31] case cuz you're a little bit younger

[10:32] than me, but um

[10:33] when when we were on the phone just a

[10:35] couple of years, um when we were on a

[10:37] phone call

[10:39] if somebody else tried to call us

[10:42] the phone is engaged or busy, right? Now

[10:45] we have call waiting, right? So, you

[10:47] could be on a mobile or even a landline,

[10:49] and you can hear the beep of someone

[10:51] else trying to get through to you. But

[10:53] back in the day

[10:55] you know, if I called one of my buddies

[10:56] to go out to play or whatever, the phone

[10:59] was busy. It would say, "Oh, you know,

[11:01] the line's engaged, right? They're on a

[11:02] call. I'll try back in a few minutes."

[11:05] So, what I hear for you, you know,

[11:08] intuitively, is that at some level,

[11:11] you're and it might sound like a weird

[11:12] expression, but you're still engaged

[11:14] with your mom.

[11:16] Mhm. Does that Does that make sense

[11:18] intuitively? Meaning

[11:20] often times when the boy has a very

[11:22] close relationship with the mother

[11:26] um

[11:27] until such time that there is some,

[11:29] usually, you know, uh severing of that

[11:31] through tragedy or

[11:34] um miscommunication, disharmony

[11:38] disruption, then the boy can't move on

[11:40] to become a man and then engage with

[11:42] other women.

[11:44] Does that make sense energetically?

[11:46] Well, I'm not saying that you have to

[11:47] agree with it, but could you at least

[11:48] see the the principle that I'm I'm

[11:50] talking about?

[11:51] >> Yes. I would like to caveat though if

[11:54] >> Please, go ahead.

[11:56] >> Yeah.

[11:57] Um

[11:57] what you said makes sense, I'm I'm not

[11:59] sure um

[12:01] if my relationship with my mother is

[12:04] like that. She is very very loving. She

[12:07] likes We're We're six kids. She loves

[12:10] everyone, and then she's a

[12:11] therapist. She She lots of love to give

[12:13] and she is very uh motherly and we have

[12:17] Um I also have some, you know,

[12:20] issues with her. I'm not sure if like

[12:23] what kind what kind of

[12:24] um

[12:25] relationship are you like is in your

[12:28] head

[12:29] that you're um that you kind of thought

[12:32] about this.

[12:33] Um

[12:34] >> So, what I'm leading to and it's good to

[12:35] know, you know, I was going to get into

[12:37] siblings and stuff. So, you're one of

[12:38] six, which helps me to understand that

[12:41] the dynamic I'm talking about can be

[12:43] unconscious. It's energetic, right? So,

[12:45] regardless of what's actually

[12:47] transpiring on the surface in actions,

[12:49] words, um it's more sort of an emotional

[12:52] energetic bond. So, where were you in

[12:54] the six? Like where what what's uh where

[12:57] did you come in pecking order?

[13:00] >> I'm the fifth.

[13:01] >> Fifth, okay. Okay, cool. So, not quite

[13:04] the runt of the litter, but close.

[13:06] >> [laughter]

[13:06] >> So, one of the youngest ones. Yeah. So,

[13:08] that also lends to, you know, like I see

[13:10] you such a beautiful sensitive soul, but

[13:13] at some level also quite young, right?

[13:15] Not not not just biologically,

[13:16] chronologically, but emotionally, right?

[13:19] So, that can, you know, typically in a

[13:20] family with that kind of size with all

[13:23] of those kids, you know, the youngest

[13:25] become

[13:27] um very dependent on either parents or

[13:30] older siblings, right? So, you're at

[13:33] some level kind of mollycoddled for a

[13:35] while, right? Cuz there's got to take

[13:36] care of the youngest. You're going to

[13:37] have older siblings, they step up.

[13:39] That'll fulfill on some of their

[13:41] narratives that it's up to them. They

[13:43] start to develop different levels of

[13:44] responsibility.

[13:46] Uh because they're now sort of at some

[13:48] level charged with uh taking care of

[13:50] their younger siblings, right?

[13:53] So, you you remain in that sort of

[13:55] weaker position emotionally,

[13:57] energetically. It's got nothing to do

[13:58] with, you know, your potentiality or

[14:00] your physicality. So, what happens is it

[14:04] might take you a little longer

[14:05] energetically to kind of leave the nest,

[14:09] right?

[14:10] And and I'm talking in not literally,

[14:12] you know, I'm sure you live by yourself

[14:13] or you have roommates or whatever, but

[14:15] you went to college um but emotionally,

[14:18] right? To be able to move on.

[14:20] So, that's that's one component, but

[14:22] what I want you to consider is that that

[14:24] moment, you know, when you were in with

[14:26] the biological

[14:27] the class, you know, biology class with

[14:29] the girl that you first had a crush on

[14:31] and you know, you're like, "Wait, wait,

[14:32] no, I know you're into me." And then

[14:34] there was the confusion, there was like

[14:36] the

[14:37] you know, little bit of desperation that

[14:39] came there and the fact that you were

[14:41] mocked a little bit like, you know,

[14:42] could leave that imprint of

[14:45] at the worst case you're a loser, at the

[14:47] best case there's definitely something

[14:48] wrong with you. And then your

[14:50] relationship to yourself is self-doubt,

[14:52] right? Like, wait a minute. Like, my own

[14:55] my own perspective is a little bit off.

[14:57] I can't even trust it, right?

[14:59] So, if you combine all of those, what it

[15:02] leads to to me energetically and I could

[15:04] hear this in your

[15:05] video you submitted, but even in the way

[15:07] you're speaking today, there's just not

[15:09] in a bad way, but there's a little bit

[15:11] of neediness.

[15:13] Right?

[15:15] Fair enough.

[15:17] So,

[15:18] what does your neediness

[15:22] transmit, right? If you look at a human

[15:24] being like a radio, and we're frequency

[15:26] beings, so we tend to attract the

[15:28] circumstances

[15:30] and people that will reflect the

[15:32] frequency vibration that we're emitting,

[15:34] right? So, if you were to look at it

[15:37] objectively without any judgment, what

[15:39] what would you say is the frequency that

[15:41] your Tom is like currently tuned into?

[15:46] What does your energy share?

[15:48] >> What does my energy energy share about

[15:51] >> about you and like again, imagine a

[15:53] radio, right? You tune it into, I don't

[15:55] know, 97.5 FM and it's like R&B, right?

[15:58] So, based on that frequency, you attract

[16:01] R&B. Or you move it to 105.8 and it's

[16:04] like classic rock, right? And so, then

[16:06] classic rock show. All of those

[16:08] frequencies and the music is all out

[16:10] there, depends on what we're tuned into,

[16:12] right? So, what I'm wanting you to try

[16:14] and feel and we've we've sort of talked

[16:17] to it directly and danced around it, but

[16:19] what is your Thomas frequency? What is

[16:21] What are you currently tuned into that

[16:23] has the kind of music {quote} people and

[16:26] circumstances that you're attracting?

[16:30] >> If I understood the question, then it's

[16:32] some sort of

[16:34] um

[16:35] obviously neediness, but like maybe some

[16:39] some sort of unworthiness. I'm not

[16:41] enough on my own.

[16:43] >> Yeah, beautiful. And you mentioned it

[16:45] earlier as sort of So, if somebody's

[16:47] needy,

[16:49] what are you not inherently?

[16:53] If you're needy, meaning looking for

[16:56] others to show up, what aren't What

[16:58] aren't you inherently?

[17:00] >> Enough.

[17:02] >> Enough is part of it, but more literal.

[17:05] If you're wanting to get somebody to be

[17:09] there in your life, what are you not?

[17:12] >> There for myself.

[17:15] >> That's right at the core, but relative

[17:17] to others. If you're If you're trying to

[17:20] get to others and they're not showing

[17:22] up,

[17:23] what might you And you said it earlier

[17:25] on when we were looking at the different

[17:26] stories you've made up, that you're not

[17:29] fundamentally what?

[17:32] >> Uh wanted.

[17:33] >> Correct. Yeah.

[17:35] Now, just sit with that.

[17:37] If you

[17:38] And it really I use the word

[17:39] specifically, you know, I choose my

[17:40] words very consciously. So,

[17:42] fundamentally, right? Meaning at the

[17:45] deepest level, you're not inherently

[17:47] wanted.

[17:51] What's it like to live inside of that?

[17:57] There you go.

[18:04] >> Uh it just puts me in kind of a survival

[18:06] mode all the time.

[18:08] >> Yeah.

[18:09] >> Always trying to figure out other

[18:11] people's uh What are they saying to me?

[18:14] Do they Do they want to be here? Do they

[18:15] not? Is what I said okay? Is that's

[18:18] really a

[18:18] >> Yeah.

[18:19] Beautiful. Now, let's take this energy

[18:21] that you're feeling right now and see if

[18:23] you can remember

[18:24] anything in the dynamic of your family

[18:27] where the fifth of six kids,

[18:30] you maybe noticed however subtle that

[18:33] some of your siblings seem to get more

[18:36] attention, whether it was from mom,

[18:37] whether it was from dad, whether it was

[18:39] from other boys and girls, whether it

[18:40] was from school teachers or friends.

[18:43] Like, did you Can you remember any

[18:45] moments where you would notice some of

[18:47] your probably older sib- lings

[18:49] that in whatever form seem to get more

[18:52] attention?

[18:55] Was there a popular kid, a smart kid, a

[18:56] good athlete? Did mom or dad have a

[18:59] favorite, even if it wasn't really, you

[19:01] know, obvious?

[19:04] Something that you saw or felt?

[19:08] >> I kind of want to find the answer, but

[19:09] I'm not finding one at the moment.

[19:12] >> No, that's okay. I appreciate you

[19:13] looking. And again, these things can be

[19:15] subtle. And sometimes when we're young,

[19:16] we notice or more intuitively feel

[19:20] that sort of distinction between hang on

[19:22] a minute, why is it that mom, dad, you

[19:25] know, and these don't have to be

[19:27] conscious thoughts are showing a lot

[19:29] more love, a lot more affection. Dad

[19:31] smiles bigger when my sis- my brother or

[19:33] my sister comes in the room. You know,

[19:35] and these are like subtle impressions

[19:37] that the kid would feel. Like, you know,

[19:38] and you're very sensitive. So again, you

[19:40] might not recall it, but my guess is

[19:42] based on your energetic signature that

[19:44] I'm reading, you felt it.

[19:47] >> Mhm.

[19:49] >> Were any of your older siblings in any

[19:51] regard more successful, better looking,

[19:53] better academics, better athletes?

[19:56] >> We're all really talented.

[19:58] >> Okay, all well accomplished.

[20:00] >> talented.

[20:01] >> Yeah.

[20:03] >> I don't know. Both my

[20:04] sisters are

[20:06] uh very, very beautiful.

[20:08] >> Okay.

[20:09] >> Um I have a younger sister and an older

[20:11] sister.

[20:12] Um

[20:14] >> Did that in any way I mean, look, even

[20:15] as uh

[20:18] you know, brother to sister or brother

[20:19] to a brother, when we're younger, like

[20:21] biologically, we are weaker, not as

[20:24] fast, not as smart. There's certain

[20:26] things we can't do. We're not allowed to

[20:27] clear the table. They can cuz we're

[20:29] going to break. You know, there's this

[20:31] dynamic gets established, right?

[20:34] >> Mhm.

[20:34] >> So, without leading the witness here,

[20:36] like I want you to feel into your role

[20:38] in that sort of

[20:40] dynamic of the family

[20:42] and how you felt relative to others.

[20:48] And again, it's not going to be so

[20:50] present now cuz, you know, you're you're

[20:52] quote-unquote a man and you're older,

[20:54] but when you're a kid

[20:56] and again, you may not recall all of it,

[20:58] but can you feel that there may have

[21:00] been moments where you felt slightly

[21:03] you know, weaker, slower, not as smart,

[21:06] couldn't partake, you know, as your

[21:08] older siblings?

[21:10] >> Yeah, I remember like

[21:13] um

[21:14] with my older brother, like one the one

[21:17] before me.

[21:18] Um

[21:19] >> Yeah.

[21:20] >> I remember a lot of

[21:22] maybe wanting to be hang out with his

[21:24] friends or like

[21:26] >> Here you go. Yeah.

[21:27] >> And they didn't really

[21:31] uh he kind of showed that I wasn't

[21:34] really invited or I I recall a

[21:36] conversation I had with a childhood

[21:38] friend.

[21:39] Um he was my older brother's age and he

[21:42] told me that I was always crying that I

[21:45] um

[21:46] that I

[21:47] wanted to like play with them or

[21:49] something.

[21:50] >> Yeah.

[21:50] >> Yeah.

[21:51] >> And they wouldn't include you.

[21:53] >> Yeah, they would sometimes or if they

[21:55] would, then they would uh

[21:59] I don't know, make fun of me or have um

[22:03] >> Yeah.

[22:04] >> You know, it's kind of like it wasn't

[22:06] very intense.

[22:07] >> It might not seem like that, but this is

[22:09] what I'm looking for, right? So, I

[22:11] guarantee you for that like 5 6 7

[22:14] 8-year-old, it was intense.

[22:16] You know, if you're crying

[22:19] you know, I think this is where and

[22:21] don't take this the wrong way. When

[22:22] people I I I sometimes chuckle to myself

[22:25] in the most loving way, but you said,

[22:27] you know, you meet people who are

[22:28] emotionally unavailable.

[22:30] Right? So, when anybody ever says that,

[22:32] typically it's a like a glaring sign

[22:34] that you're not emotionally available.

[22:36] Right?

[22:37] Now, we can get

[22:39] we can get to why because you, as you

[22:41] said, think about it. You know, you

[22:43] recognize very astutely that if you're

[22:45] being needy or desperate, then, you

[22:48] know, that leaves you feeling like um

[22:51] you're surviving is the word you used,

[22:53] right? So, think about it emotionally.

[22:56] If you're trying to survive, meaning

[22:58] you're in a sort of steady state of

[23:01] fight or flight,

[23:02] how truly emotionally available are you?

[23:09] >> Not at all. I'm always um

[23:12] trying to uh figure things out if

[23:14] they're into me, if they like me, if

[23:16] they're enjoying their time, if I'm

[23:18] enjoying my time, if they're good enough

[23:19] for me.

[23:21] >> Amazing. Amazing that you can see that,

[23:23] right? Isn't that like kind of

[23:25] not shocking, but is that oh my god,

[23:27] here I am thinking that they're not

[23:29] emotionally available and I'm busy

[23:31] managing worst-case potential scenarios.

[23:34] Right?

[23:35] >> Yeah.

[23:37] >> Yeah. So, what I want you to see is like

[23:38] one of my favorite quotes about

[23:40] relationships. I say that most people

[23:41] are in a relationship,

[23:44] but not in relationship.

[23:47] >> Mhm.

[23:48] >> Very subtle, right? Most people are in a

[23:51] relationship, but not in relationship.

[23:54] So, they're in the form, right? It's my

[23:55] friend. It's my boyfriend. It's my

[23:57] girlfriend. It's my husband. It's my

[23:58] wife. So, you have the form declared,

[24:01] but the energetics in the way that you

[24:03] actually relate and communicate aren't

[24:04] there.

[24:07] So, this is good news, right? Because

[24:09] what I want you to realize is one of the

[24:11] reasons you don't have a relationship is

[24:13] cuz you don't yet know how to be in

[24:15] relationship. [laughter]

[24:17] Right? So, you know, the mechanics of

[24:20] how our brain is wired works, right?

[24:22] It's physics, right? If the way that you

[24:24] know, Tom is relating to life is from

[24:26] fear, concern for worst-case scenarios,

[24:29] as you said, always managing the ship,

[24:31] to use your term, of where does that go?

[24:33] Are they going to leave me? Are they

[24:34] questioning what's going on? Do they

[24:36] like me? All of that. Who Who are you

[24:39] actually having a relationship with in

[24:40] that dynamic?

[24:43] >> With my own fears and

[24:46] my own inner [clears throat] dialogue.

[24:48] >> Amazing.

[24:50] And And you can really see that, right?

[24:52] It's like you're literally in a

[24:53] relationship with your own concerns.

[24:56] Welcome to being human. I guarantee you

[24:58] most people listening to this are like

[25:00] right now saying, "Holy [ __ ] I'm doing

[25:02] the same thing."

[25:03] >> Yeah.

[25:04] >> They wonder why their relationship

[25:05] doesn't work. And it gets even more

[25:07] insidious because

[25:09] you know, most of these narratives and

[25:11] dialogues that we're in relationship

[25:13] with are deep in our subconscious, so

[25:15] we're not even aware of it.

[25:17] You know, a lot of people who are

[25:19] feeling they're not enough

[25:21] are so busy preoccupied with how am I

[25:24] occurring to people, like the way they

[25:26] look. Am I the right shape? Am I wearing

[25:28] the right clothes? Do I know the right

[25:30] information? Am I like smart enough to

[25:32] be with this group? Am I athletic?

[25:34] Whatever it is, right? And And it's

[25:37] they won't necessarily know that they're

[25:39] actually in a relationship with their

[25:40] own sense of inadequacy. They'll just

[25:42] feel anxious, and they might say, "Oh, I

[25:44] just have a bit of social anxiety."

[25:46] No, you You're completely related to

[25:49] your own feeling of not being enough and

[25:51] trying to constantly manage that,

[25:52] compensate for it, and monitor it.

[25:54] That's exhausting.

[25:56] Okay?

[25:58] So, here's the irony for you, my friend,

[25:59] is that all the things you said, I

[26:01] concur. Like, you're smart, you're

[26:02] charming, you're proactive, you're you

[26:04] know, you're a beautiful guy, you're

[26:05] you've got a big heart, you love being

[26:07] around people.

[26:08] But you are in a relationship with your

[26:11] own fears that you're not in a

[26:14] relationship.

[26:17] >> [laughter]

[26:21] >> That's called self-fulfilling prophecy,

[26:22] right? Self-sabotage. So, even when

[26:24] you're in a relationship, because you've

[26:26] gotten so used to being in a

[26:27] relationship with your own fear that

[26:29] you're not in a relationship,

[26:31] that when you're in a relationship,

[26:32] you're not in the relationship cuz

[26:34] you're still maintaining the

[26:35] relationship with your fear that you're

[26:36] not in a relationship.

[26:38] That's quite a tongue twister, but

[26:40] hopefully everyone tracked, right?

[26:41] >> [laughter]

[26:43] >> Yeah.

[26:44] >> So So, let's cut to So, some of the

[26:47] mechanics that sustain that we've

[26:48] already touched on, right? Like I can

[26:50] feel the energetics of it, which is a

[26:52] young boy wants to play with his older

[26:54] brother and he's dismissed, right? He's

[26:57] not included.

[26:58] And so, that's a component of the not

[27:00] being wanted.

[27:02] Right? So, for a kid, he might not be

[27:04] I'm not wanted, but it more it feels

[27:06] more like you're just dismissed, you're

[27:08] disregarded, you're rejected, you're not

[27:10] included in the gang, right?

[27:13] >> Yeah.

[27:14] >> So, just find that, feel that, right?

[27:15] That's a horrible feeling and that's

[27:17] going to be part of the neediness,

[27:19] right? Where Okay, I'm not inherently

[27:21] included, therefore, your brain

[27:24] automatically will come up with a very

[27:26] logical solution, which is what do I

[27:29] have to do to be included?

[27:32] Do you see that? That's the survival

[27:33] coping strategy.

[27:35] The hurt underneath is I'm not included,

[27:37] that really hurts. That's part of the

[27:38] isolation that everybody experiences.

[27:41] Then, cuz you're sweet, you know, some

[27:43] people become defiant. They're like,

[27:44] "Well, [ __ ] you. I'm going to go and

[27:46] join my own gang." Or, you know, they

[27:47] might literally join a group that is

[27:50] destructive, disharmonious, not healthy,

[27:52] but to prove a point, right?

[27:54] Clearly, you fortunately didn't do that.

[27:56] You're still trying to mitigate your own

[27:59] underlying fear that you're not innately

[28:01] included.

[28:03] Do you see that?

[28:05] >> Yeah.

[28:05] >> That's the exhaustion, that's the

[28:06] desperation, that's the neediness,

[28:08] that's the being super self-conscious

[28:11] and very vigilant, right? You're always

[28:12] looking out for any potential sign that

[28:15] a friend or a girlfriend might say

[28:17] something that could jeopardize the

[28:19] relationship.

[28:21] Right?

[28:23] So, not feeling included is part of it.

[28:26] Not being wanted as a more So, not

[28:29] feeling included is more sort of the

[28:31] emotional experience. Not being wanted

[28:32] is more the story. You know, that you've

[28:35] developed over time.

[28:37] And I want you to consider there's

[28:39] something there about like loser is, you

[28:42] know, not inaccurate, but somehow you're

[28:44] a little bit less than. You know, there

[28:46] might be something wrong with you.

[28:48] >> Yeah, I definitely uh

[28:51] see

[28:52] um

[28:54] the more I do uh your work than the less

[28:56] it it it is so, but

[28:58] I tend to see myself as either below

[29:00] people

[29:01] like girls, friends

[29:04] >> Yeah.

[29:04] >> whatever, or above them.

[29:06] >> Okay. Yeah. Which is just the two sides

[29:10] of the same coin ultimately, right? It's

[29:13] still keeping yourself separate, right?

[29:14] So, the fundamental identity that is our

[29:17] ego is by design separate.

[29:19] So, the relationship you're in

[29:22] with yourself, your own fears and

[29:24] limitations, is that isolated silo, the

[29:27] world that people live in by themselves.

[29:29] Right? Which hurts, right? Because

[29:31] underneath that, without getting too

[29:32] poetic, the nature of who we are is

[29:35] interconnected.

[29:37] Right? Consciousness being our essence

[29:40] can't be separate from other

[29:43] consciousness.

[29:44] We can only experience the illusion of

[29:47] separation due to the conversations we

[29:49] have about ourselves that your Tom is

[29:51] somehow not wanted, not included, he's

[29:53] somehow less than.

[29:55] That's that's where the illusion of

[29:57] separation exists.

[29:59] Do you see that?

[30:00] >> Yeah.

[30:00] >> So,

[30:02] So, I'm going to jump ahead a little bit

[30:03] here, and this is an advanced question,

[30:05] and you may or may not get it, but I'm

[30:07] going to appeal to your intelligence.

[30:09] What is the fundamental lie that you

[30:12] currently have in place about

[30:15] relationships?

[30:16] Period. Whether they be friends or

[30:18] romantic.

[30:20] What is the fundamental lie in the way

[30:22] that you see relationships?

[30:30] >> That I'm um

[30:34] not loved, not wanted.

[30:37] >> That's part of it. That's more the

[30:38] personal subjective experience on top of

[30:42] the lie.

[30:45] And it might be hard to find cuz this

[30:47] will probably be shocking to everybody

[30:49] listening.

[30:51] So, what is the lie about relationships

[30:54] particularly for you

[30:55] in the way that you view a relationship?

[31:02] What are you not currently in

[31:05] relationships?

[31:10] And I'm not saying like loved and

[31:11] wanted, yeah, they're accurate, but at

[31:13] the deepest level

[31:17] >> What am I not? I'm not in relationship,

[31:20] but um

[31:21] >> Yeah.

[31:21] >> [clears throat]

[31:22] >> That's your experience, but it it's

[31:24] because of the way you view

[31:26] relationships fundamentally

[31:29] with others.

[31:33] >> That they're out of reach. I don't know.

[31:35] This is uh

[31:35] >> Yeah. Yeah, no, that's that's not

[31:37] inaccurate. So, I want you to consider

[31:39] and this should be shocking. The way

[31:41] that you relate to relationships is that

[31:43] you're not inherently already related.

[31:48] >> Mhm.

[31:52] >> So again, this is yeah, it should be

[31:53] mind-blowing, right?

[31:55] >> [laughter]

[31:56] >> Your eyes went like Huh?

[31:58] >> I'm going to have to process this.

[32:00] >> Yeah, no, everybody is like, what the

[32:02] [ __ ] Right? So, your eyes disappeared

[32:04] in the back of your head. So,

[32:07] the way that people have relationships

[32:10] currently structured is even if you look

[32:12] at the word relationship implies two at

[32:15] least, right?

[32:17] Within that dynamic is the illusion of

[32:20] separation, right? It's me and then

[32:22] other. Whether it's friend, parent,

[32:25] sibling, girlfriend, boyfriend,

[32:26] whatever.

[32:28] So,

[32:30] at the deepest core of your

[32:32] quote-unquote problem, which is all

[32:33] illusory, it's not a real problem, your

[32:37] conditioning has it set up that you

[32:39] aren't

[32:40] automatically related to people.

[32:43] >> Mhm.

[32:45] >> So, think about this as a maybe a an odd

[32:48] analogy, but help will help. Imagine a

[32:51] wave

[32:53] on an ocean, and let's say it's even in

[32:55] the same cove or the same beach, but

[32:57] it's like, you know, 50 100 ft down from

[32:59] another wave.

[33:02] It would be like that wave seeing the

[33:03] other wave, if it had conscious that I'm

[33:05] not related to that wave.

[33:08] >> Mhm.

[33:09] >> Now, why is that inaccurate?

[33:11] >> Because they're all part of the same

[33:13] body of water, and it's they're just a

[33:14] different form of the same

[33:17] body of water.

[33:19] >> Beautifully articulated. Now, apply that

[33:22] to the human disposition.

[33:25] >> We're all part of the same We're all

[33:27] intrinsically

[33:29] uh

[33:30] We're inherently connected and related.

[33:33] >> Yeah.

[33:34] >> And for me, living through my ego, I

[33:38] see myself as disconnected from

[33:40] everybody else.

[33:42] >> Yeah.

[33:42] >> Um so, then

[33:43] >> So, now let's flip-flop between the two.

[33:45] When you're in your ego, you're

[33:46] disconnected. We have the whole story

[33:48] that we've been discussing for the last

[33:49] 45 minutes of Yotam. Has another

[33:52] relationship for a years. He got hurt

[33:54] when he was 11 in biology class cuz the

[33:56] girl that he thought he was flirting

[33:57] with and he was scoring with said, "No,

[33:59] I don't like you." Cut to, you know, in

[34:01] 12th grade, his girlfriend breaks up

[34:03] with him, his first love. That's, you

[34:05] know, like really hurtful. And so,

[34:07] you've got all of this evidence. You

[34:09] can't play with your brother and his

[34:10] friends. All you've known in the life

[34:13] that you've currently existed and and

[34:15] experienced is I'm not inherently

[34:18] included. I'm not inherently wanted. I'm

[34:21] not inherently part of the gang.

[34:24] Now, when you live inside of that

[34:25] dynamic, we we experience your

[34:28] behavioral coping strategies, right?

[34:30] Needy, a bit desperate, trying,

[34:32] proactive, move countries, join

[34:34] communities, go to clubs, whatever it is

[34:36] you have to do. Can you see your

[34:38] behavior is being driven by the

[34:40] underlying fundamental belief that

[34:42] you're not inherently part of something.

[34:47] >> Yeah, definitely.

[34:49] >> Right? And that's the sadness. That's

[34:50] the desperation. That's where you reach

[34:52] out to Peter Crone and, you know, jump

[34:54] on a podcast who's going to blow your

[34:56] [ __ ] mind wide open and see that

[34:58] you're full of [ __ ] and you can't not be

[35:00] part of the game, right? [laughter]

[35:02] So, so we we you're very familiar with

[35:04] the former, right? Like feeling

[35:06] inherently separate. Now, I know this is

[35:09] all new and and it's literally, you

[35:11] know, 5 minutes old for you, but what

[35:13] would it feel like for you, Tom, if

[35:16] you're inherently connected to

[35:18] everybody? You can't not be related to

[35:21] others. You might not know their name,

[35:23] their nationality, their favorite color,

[35:25] the you know, the the whatever their

[35:27] idiosyncrasies are. You know, don't know

[35:29] their subjective details, but

[35:31] emotionally, energetically, at the

[35:33] deepest level, you're inherently

[35:35] connected to every being.

[35:37] How does that hit your system?

[35:42] >> It's uh kind of like uh you want to like

[35:45] Uh you kind of want to

[35:47] >> Well, I do, but like I say I cuz it's

[35:50] your system, not mine.

[35:52] >> [laughter]

[35:53] >> Peter Crone wants to No, I'm kidding.

[35:55] >> Peter Peter Crone wants to relax. No, I

[35:56] feel pretty good and connected, but

[35:58] thank you.

[35:59] >> [laughter]

[35:59] >> Thank you.

[36:01] >> Uh [snorts]

[36:02] >> Yeah, can you feel the relief?

[36:04] >> Yeah.

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[36:23] >> It's

[36:24] It is It feels a bit foreign though.

[36:26] Like my body doesn't

[36:28] really

[36:28] >> course it shouldn't. Your whole nervous

[36:29] system is wired to survive relationships

[36:31] that you're never in.

[36:34] >> [laughter]

[36:36] >> Yeah.

[36:38] >> Listen, the whole nature of my work is

[36:40] to inspire the birth of a new type of

[36:42] human being. I don't want to sound

[36:43] grandiose, but in this conversation

[36:45] right now, you're being birthed into a

[36:47] new iteration of yourself with which

[36:49] you're not familiar.

[36:51] So, it should feel a little weird and

[36:53] uncomfortable. Ironically, it's what you

[36:54] want, though.

[36:57] Right.

[36:58] Where all you want is to experience the

[37:00] feeling of unity that is your

[37:02] birthright.

[37:04] You are, I hate to, you know, burst your

[37:06] bubble of ego survival, but you're

[37:08] connected to every human being on this

[37:10] planet, every sentient being.

[37:12] Everything is consciousness.

[37:15] You might not know their details. That's

[37:16] why I say, you know, I I I know who you

[37:18] are, I just don't know the details of

[37:20] your life.

[37:23] Mhm.

[37:24] Now, can you see how dramatically, and I

[37:27] don't want to sort of sound drastic, but

[37:29] it is, how different you would approach,

[37:32] say, a girl at a grocery store or a

[37:35] cafe, or how you would speak to somebody

[37:37] if you know you can't not already be

[37:41] related?

[37:42] >> Yeah.

[37:44] >> How would you feel?

[37:47] >> Much more at ease, much more,

[37:49] um,

[37:50] maybe not needing some

[37:53] like without the need of some approval.

[37:56] >> Yeah, let me ask you something. If you

[37:57] If someone came up to you and they

[38:00] weren't at ease, meaning they were

[38:01] tense, nervous, a little bit

[38:03] apprehensive, and they were looking for

[38:05] your approval, are you more drawn to

[38:07] that person or somebody who's totally at

[38:09] ease and doesn't need anything from you?

[38:13] >> [laughter]

[38:16] >> Right?

[38:16] >> Mhm.

[38:17] >> It's pretty clear when you see it, isn't

[38:18] it?

[38:19] >> Yeah.

[38:20] >> And you weren't doing anything wrong,

[38:22] you were just being informed by your

[38:23] nervous system and its own concern for

[38:25] not being fundamentally accepted and

[38:27] loved for who you are or included. And

[38:30] your own psychology, you know, where

[38:32] you've got evidence as to why you have

[38:34] to do something to be wanted.

[38:37] It It's okay. It's just exhausting and

[38:39] it's complete pretense, right? It's a

[38:40] facade.

[38:43] Now, you're like, "Oh, I can't not be

[38:45] [ __ ] related." You You can walk up to

[38:47] a complete stranger and say, "Hey, good

[38:48] to see you. You're looking great today."

[38:49] They're like, "Do I know you?" No, but

[38:51] we're related. Don't worry about it.

[38:52] >> [laughter]

[38:54] >> They're like, "That guy's fascinating."

[38:56] >> Yeah. How would I apply this

[39:00] um

[39:01] >> [snorts]

[39:01] >> because I find myself, you know,

[39:03] obviously

[39:05] I find myself starting relationships and

[39:07] then end up

[39:09] somehow like falling out of love with

[39:12] that person, with that friend, or

[39:14] whatever.

[39:15] Um

[39:16] >> Yeah.

[39:16] >> I kind of like I feel like I attract

[39:18] people that um that I end up pushing

[39:21] away or getting away from myself.

[39:23] >> Yeah.

[39:23] >> How would I apply this um feeling of

[39:26] connectedness to people that I would do

[39:29] not wish to um continue the relationship

[39:33] with?

[39:34] Um how can I still feel connected, but

[39:36] also like maybe understand that this is

[39:39] not for me, or or maybe if I would have

[39:41] been connected in the first place that

[39:43] then I wouldn't feel feel the need to

[39:44] get away from it.

[39:46] >> Yeah. So, a couple of things to

[39:47] consider. First of all, the mechanism by

[39:50] which you're attracting people right now

[39:52] is false, right? It's illusory. It's

[39:54] based on lies and fears.

[39:56] So, whenever we attract people,

[39:58] circumstances, or otherwise, when we're

[40:00] coming from a place of our own sense of

[40:02] inadequacy or insecurity, whatever we

[40:04] attract is only going to be related to

[40:06] our mechanisms of survival.

[40:09] >> Mhm.

[40:09] >> Make sense?

[40:10] So, it's not authentic. It's not really

[40:12] what your {quote} {unquote} soul craves.

[40:14] So, at some level

[40:16] your soul is using the mechanisms of

[40:19] constraint to attract circumstances so

[40:21] you hopefully wake up, you know, to your

[40:24] own limitations, right? That's the

[40:26] journey of being human.

[40:27] So, your soul is here to emancipate

[40:29] itself from these fears and limitations.

[40:32] So, currently you've attracted people

[40:35] and circumstances that aren't {quote}

[40:37] {unquote} appropriate for the essence of

[40:39] who you are, that however completely

[40:42] aligned with the view you have of

[40:43] yourself.

[40:45] Not wanted, not included, somehow less

[40:48] than, right?

[40:50] >> Yeah.

[40:50] >> But that can't be sustained because it's

[40:52] not really who you are. So those are

[40:54] going to fall by the wayside. So at one

[40:56] level, the fact that you haven't had a

[40:58] relationship romantically for 8 years

[40:59] and your friendships tend to come and go

[41:02] is a perfect representation, it's

[41:04] commensurate with the way that you

[41:06] currently relate to life.

[41:09] Right? You keep fulfilling on your

[41:12] fundamental story about yourself like

[41:13] everybody.

[41:16] Did you see the movie Inception? Did you

[41:18] ever watch that with uh DiCaprio,

[41:20] Leonardo?

[41:21] >> Um

[41:23] No, only clips of it.

[41:25] >> Yeah. So it might be worth watching, but

[41:26] there's a very powerful line there where

[41:29] he goes to all these different levels of

[41:30] memory and subconscious, right? Where

[41:33] his wife and he would go to these

[41:35] different states, meaning uh sort of

[41:38] psychologically deep into the recesses

[41:40] of their mind. And the way that you come

[41:43] out of that, just like when you're

[41:44] sleeping, if you're in a dream state and

[41:46] you fall or somebody shoots you, you

[41:48] wake up, right? So when we die in a

[41:50] particular state of dream, we tend to

[41:53] come back to, you know, waking state.

[41:57] And in the movie, without spoiling it,

[41:59] but it's a very powerful distinction,

[42:02] Leonardo had place what's called

[42:05] inception, meaning you put an idea in

[42:07] somebody's mind. And his wife loved the

[42:10] dream state. A lot of people in the

[42:12] movie, they just want to go there cuz

[42:14] it's a different place to be where you

[42:15] can make up things, right? It's not

[42:17] based on the laws of three-dimensional,

[42:19] you know, living that we're in.

[42:21] And she would never leave.

[42:24] And so he planted a seed that said this

[42:26] is not real. This is not reality.

[42:30] So that she would keep being informed by

[42:32] this is not reality. We have to We have

[42:34] to kill ourselves in this dream so we

[42:36] can come back to life and back to our

[42:38] children.

[42:40] But because that was always there, even

[42:42] when they came back to reality, she was

[42:45] still being informed by this isn't

[42:46] reality.

[42:47] >> Mhm.

[42:48] >> And so, you know, the whole premise of

[42:49] the movie, I'm not going to spoil, but

[42:51] so then she kept being informed by that

[42:54] and always trying to {quote} kill

[42:56] herself to come back to reality.

[42:59] Why I'm sharing that is because by

[43:00] design the nature of the human ego is

[43:03] that.

[43:05] So you're always related to your own

[43:08] deep belief that you're fundamentally

[43:10] not related, not wanted, not included,

[43:12] and somehow less than.

[43:14] So that's what you're always going to

[43:16] find evidence for. Even if and I'm sure

[43:17] there've been many people who loved you,

[43:19] girlfriends who wanted to be with you,

[43:21] friends who wanted to hang out with you.

[43:23] And through no fault of your own, your

[43:25] energy will have to fundamentally at

[43:28] some point fulfill on itself.

[43:32] >> Meaning I Meaning those events will

[43:34] transpire to reflect that way I see

[43:37] myself?

[43:38] >> Yes, so meaning even if you liked

[43:40] someone or you were attracted to

[43:42] someone, the the subtleties of like, you

[43:44] know, let's say you were with someone

[43:46] and they maybe moved in with you. But

[43:48] somebody who spends a lot of time with

[43:49] you, energetically the way you

[43:51] communicate, your your ways of

[43:53] affection, the way you make love, the

[43:55] way that you, you know, react to their

[43:57] comments, all of that will be inside of

[44:00] the world that you're not fundamentally

[44:02] wanted.

[44:04] >> Mhm.

[44:05] >> So on the surface what that might have

[44:07] looked like is that you were a really

[44:09] thoughtful, kind, generous boyfriend,

[44:11] right? You would take the trash out.

[44:13] They didn't ask. You would bring flowers

[44:15] home. It wasn't their birthday. You

[44:16] would leave a sweet note because, you

[44:18] know, you wanted to show how much you

[44:20] love them. But if you look at it really

[44:22] at the deepest subtle level, not all,

[44:25] but the majority of your actions would

[44:27] have been driven by the underlying fear

[44:29] that, "Oh, they could leave at any

[44:31] moment."

[44:32] Can you see that?

[44:34] >> Yeah.

[44:34] >> This is how I learned my deep

[44:36] conditioning, my very first not too

[44:37] dissimilar, you know, my very first

[44:39] love. I was scared that she would leave.

[44:43] I I had a narrative of loss. Anything

[44:46] that was valuable to me is always going

[44:47] to leave because my mom died when I was

[44:49] seven, my dad died when I was 17, right?

[44:51] So I'm being informed by the hurt of my

[44:54] history now superimposing it onto a

[44:56] completely different being who doesn't

[44:58] have that relationship to me. She adored

[45:00] me,

[45:01] but because of the fear of loss, I would

[45:04] quote and quote be Peter plus, right?

[45:07] I'm loving, kind, super generous,

[45:09] you know, on paper,

[45:11] [ __ ] amazing boyfriend, right? But I

[45:14] was amazing boyfriend plus.

[45:16] So, it wasn't just my authentic, kind,

[45:18] loving, caring self. It was all of that

[45:20] and then just that little extra to make

[45:22] sure she didn't leave me.

[45:24] >> [laughter]

[45:24] >> But that little extra is what causes

[45:27] energetically the person to leave you

[45:29] because it's not true. It's not

[45:31] authentic. It's being driven by the

[45:33] mechanics of your subconscious fears and

[45:35] limitations which have to fulfill on

[45:38] themselves.

[45:40] So, your Tom, unbeknownst to you, that's

[45:43] why there's no fault, but now you get to

[45:44] be responsible for it. That's where the

[45:46] power comes in because before this

[45:48] conversation, you were powerless to

[45:51] those mechanics, right? You just didn't

[45:53] know, like, why? I'm trying. I do da da

[45:54] da.

[45:55] You've got all of the reasons as to why

[45:57] you should be in a relation I'm kind,

[45:59] I'm charming, I'm I'm a sweet guy, I'm a

[46:01] good dude, I go to the, you know? Yeah,

[46:03] they're all true, but you're inside of

[46:05] this invisible cage where you keep

[46:07] fulfilling on the belief that you're not

[46:09] fundamentally wanted and it's eventually

[46:11] going to fall apart.

[46:13] You see that?

[46:14] >> Yeah.

[46:15] >> Isn't that crazy?

[46:18] And now you know why most people have

[46:19] medications or like some sort of

[46:21] substance abuse cuz they're like

[46:23] doesn't matter how [ __ ] much I try to

[46:25] make money, get in shape, get rid of my

[46:27] sickness, have a relationship, finally

[46:29] be loved by my mom or dad, you know,

[46:31] it's like it doesn't work. No, cuz

[46:32] you're living in a prison that you can't

[46:34] see that has to fulfill on itself.

[46:37] So, let's go back. So, what is the

[46:39] fundamental the fundamental lie that

[46:41] your Tom's been living in?

[46:44] That you're not.

[46:45] >> Not included, not not

[46:47] um

[46:49] connected inherently.

[46:51] >> Yeah.

[46:52] That's a lie, do you see? So, now that

[46:54] you know that you're inherently

[46:56] connected, you can't not be related to

[46:58] people.

[47:00] >> That's my own

[47:02] >> [laughter]

[47:03] >> I just saw a bunch of

[47:05] these videos and it's it's it's cool

[47:07] that I'm getting to be to answer these

[47:09] questions myself. I'm just

[47:11] >> Yeah, isn't it cool?

[47:13] >> Yeah.

[47:14] >> You mean a bunch of these videos me

[47:16] doing podcasts with other people?

[47:17] >> Yeah.

[47:18] >> Yes. Isn't it cool to be in the in the

[47:20] hot seat right now? It's like holy [ __ ]

[47:22] it's happening, it's real. I'm stepping

[47:24] into a world that feels really weird and

[47:26] uncomfortable, but it's also cool.

[47:30] Yeah. Yeah, welcome to 2.0 world, my

[47:32] friend.

[47:33] So, what does that now make available

[47:35] for your time if you're inherently

[47:37] connected? You can't not be related. Who

[47:41] could you be as a man? How could you

[47:44] feel as you walk around the streets? I

[47:46] mean, that breath that you just took

[47:47] there looked beautiful.

[47:50] Did it feel good?

[47:56] >> Um just

[47:58] um

[47:59] maybe some trust.

[48:01] >> That's nice, isn't it?

[48:03] >> Yeah.

[48:04] Being at ease.

[48:06] Not having to

[48:08] do anything

[48:10] special.

[48:13] >> Yeah, it's going to take a minute to

[48:14] sink in, but to answer your question

[48:15] earlier about why have you attracted

[48:17] people that maybe sometimes then you

[48:19] fall out of love with? Well, part one,

[48:22] as I said is

[48:24] because the mechanisms that drove you to

[48:25] be attracted to that person were

[48:27] fallacious. They were illusory, right?

[48:29] They were based on your attempts to be

[48:31] wanted. I know it sounds harsh, but

[48:33] you're basically using other people to

[48:35] try and overcome your own fears.

[48:38] >> And why did I chose these Why I chose

[48:40] these people specifically in the way

[48:42] >> Well, because there would have been some

[48:44] energetic component in them that also

[48:46] helped them to have their own story.

[48:48] They would have something similar that

[48:50] they're not loved, they're not wanted.

[48:52] Um they're less than, right? So, the

[48:55] energetics, again, what I said about the

[48:57] radio. If you're tuned into 97.5 and you

[49:00] get R&B, it's a match.

[49:02] >> Mhm.

[49:03] >> Right?

[49:04] So, this match energetically, like a

[49:05] dating app, you know, you would

[49:07] energetically match with people who have

[49:09] some sort of similar configuration in

[49:11] the way that they feel less than or they

[49:14] don't inherently feel love for who they

[49:15] are. Maybe they don't feel valued.

[49:19] >> Mhm.

[49:20] >> Something like that.

[49:22] So, now when you

[49:24] with trust being one of the components

[49:26] that you just started to feel,

[49:28] you allow life to present you with

[49:31] people that are a fit for your new

[49:34] frequency.

[49:37] Which is I'm inherently wanted. I'm

[49:39] inherently connected. There's nothing I

[49:42] have to prove in order to get somebody

[49:44] to {quote} {unquote} like me. They will

[49:46] or they won't. Then it just comes down

[49:48] to personal preference.

[49:51] You've been in the energy of desperation

[49:52] trying to force outcomes, right? Trying

[49:55] to manipulate situations, which I know

[49:57] is a strong word, but that's really what

[49:59] the ego does.

[50:01] Now, when you step out of that world of

[50:03] illusion illusion and feeling less than

[50:05] not wanted, that you're somehow not

[50:08] included, into the world of like, "Oh."

[50:12] Like the big relax and relief that you

[50:14] had when I first, you know, pointed out

[50:16] the lie. It's like, "Oh, there's nothing

[50:18] for me to do to be related."

[50:21] What that now affords you is the freedom

[50:24] to just be yourself and allow the right

[50:27] {quote} {unquote} people to show up for

[50:30] whatever your next {quote} {unquote}

[50:31] evolution is.

[50:33] Now you actually get to experience true

[50:35] relationship. Now you get to be

[50:37] emotionally available. Now you get to

[50:39] communicate truly, authentically to your

[50:42] Tom as opposed to your Tom trying not to

[50:45] offend someone or trying to get someone

[50:47] to approve of him. Do you see? There's

[50:48] two completely different ways of

[50:50] communicating.

[50:52] >> Yeah.

[50:54] >> Your next problem's going to be you have

[50:55] reach out for me, you know, to do

[50:57] another podcast cuz like, "Dude, I got

[50:59] way too many people are interested in

[51:01] dating me and being friends. I'm so

[51:03] related

[51:05] >> [laughter]

[51:06] >> How do I choose?

[51:11] Yeah, I'm I'm going to guess that for a

[51:12] minute you'll be okay with that problem.

[51:15] >> [laughter]

[51:15] >> Yeah.

[51:17] >> So ultimately, at the deepest level,

[51:19] when you look through the lens of you're

[51:21] not related, you're not wanted, you're

[51:22] somehow less than and you're not

[51:24] included, who was the one that was

[51:26] ultimately not wanting a relationship

[51:29] with you?

[51:30] >> Myself.

[51:32] >> Bingo. And the world met you there.

[51:36] >> Mhm.

[51:37] >> [clears throat]

[51:40] >> Crazy, huh?

[51:43] It's a mad world we live in because not

[51:45] just you, but I would say pretty much

[51:47] everybody listening can can relate to

[51:50] feeling not wanted, somehow less than,

[51:52] not enough, not loved, right? These are

[51:53] these 10 prisons that I talk about, what

[51:56] I you know, share in the mastermind and

[51:58] what I'm writing about.

[52:00] And so,

[52:01] what's crazy is, here you are innocently

[52:05] looking through a lens of not feeling

[52:07] wanted, therefore asking other people to

[52:10] make you feel wanted.

[52:12] >> Yeah.

[52:14] >> But what are they doing?

[52:16] Well, they don't feel loved, so they're

[52:17] asking you to love them. Or they don't

[52:19] feel enough, so they're asking for you

[52:20] to make them feel appreciated and

[52:22] valued.

[52:23] Do you see the madness of human

[52:25] existence is that we have a story about

[52:28] ourselves that can't be fulfilled cuz

[52:30] it's a lie, but then we're asking other

[52:32] humans who are living in inadequacy and

[52:35] insecurity

[52:36] to take care of our inadequacy and

[52:38] insecurity.

[52:39] >> Yeah.

[52:42] >> You know, you don't have to be a rocket

[52:43] scientist to see why relationships don't

[52:44] work.

[52:45] >> Yeah.

[52:47] >> What's hitting you?

[52:49] >> I think what you just said about asking,

[52:51] like

[52:52] me essentially blocking love from coming

[52:56] in because I auto like inherently don't

[52:59] let it in.

[53:01] >> Yeah.

[53:01] >> Um and then asking, you know, for

[53:03] someone to give it to me.

[53:06] >> Yeah.

[53:06] >> Uh

[53:07] it just perpetuates this neediness

[53:09] because I don't get the love even though

[53:10] they might might might have given it to

[53:12] me,

[53:13] but I can't really see it. And and when

[53:15] and when I let go of some of these uh

[53:18] fears um and I have episodes in the past

[53:21] I've had in the past few months where

[53:23] I've um I could really let a lot of love

[53:25] in and then I automatically saw how it

[53:28] just changed the whole dynamic.

[53:30] But um yeah.

[53:32] >> Yeah.

[53:32] >> It's like how I do I get back to that?

[53:34] How do I stay in this um

[53:38] I know you don't like to call it state

[53:39] because it's like the inherent way

[53:42] we are.

[53:42] >> Yeah.

[53:42] >> But um

[53:44] how would you go about like what

[53:46] question would you remind me of asking

[53:48] myself at times when I don't feel that

[53:50] inherent connectedness or

[53:52] >> No, it's That's okay. So beautifully

[53:55] articulated. So a couple of things I

[53:56] want to reflect before I get to the

[53:57] question. So what you just said was so

[54:00] beautiful, right? So you're recognizing

[54:01] that the only real relationship that

[54:04] you've been working on like anyone is

[54:05] the one with yourself.

[54:07] Which you couldn't have because the way

[54:09] you've articulated who you are is that

[54:11] you're not wanted.

[54:13] That you're less than and you're not

[54:15] included, right? In those realms.

[54:17] >> Mhm.

[54:18] >> So let's look at those. So is it an

[54:19] absolute truth that you're not wanted?

[54:24] >> No.

[54:25] >> No, it's not, right? Is it an absolute

[54:27] truth that you're somehow less than?

[54:31] >> No.

[54:32] >> No. And is it an absolute truth that

[54:34] you're not inherently included?

[54:39] >> No.

[54:40] >> So now as part of your quote unquote

[54:43] homework, you know, again I teach in my

[54:45] mastermind the awareness which is

[54:47] bringing these unconscious patterns to

[54:49] the surface. So now you're aware of your

[54:52] dialogues that have been as you said

[54:54] blocking the very thing you want. Now

[54:56] it's practice. So who does your tongue

[54:58] get to be in the absence of those

[54:59] previous lies, right? If you're not not

[55:02] wanted, if you're not not included, and

[55:04] if you're not less than, you're like,

[55:06] "Oof." All these big exhales you've had,

[55:08] I could relax. I'd be so chill. Like I'd

[55:10] go up to people without worrying if they

[55:12] like me or not. I'm not trying to get

[55:14] approval. I'm just being me." That's a

[55:16] That is an entirely different you, do

[55:18] you see? That's an entirely different

[55:19] existence. You're still sitting in a

[55:21] chair talking to me on the same podcast.

[55:24] We don't even know what that feels like

[55:25] yet. You've got to get out there in the

[55:26] world and experiment, right?

[55:29] >> Yeah.

[55:30] >> So, that's one part. So, you know,

[55:32] revisit this podcast, listen to it, make

[55:34] notes, you know, you said you'd done a

[55:35] lot of self-help. This is now beyond

[55:37] self-help, right? This is

[55:38] self-realization. This is

[55:40] self-awakening. Not trying to help the

[55:42] old self, I'm getting rid of the old

[55:43] self. With all due respect, right?

[55:47] So, now you get to experience, well, who

[55:50] could I be in the absence of your

[55:51] concerns, which is one of my invitations

[55:53] for people to always ask themselves. So,

[55:56] that is the question.

[55:58] When you do feel fear, maybe there's

[55:59] someone you're really attracted to.

[56:01] Okay, when that's going to bring back

[56:02] some survival instincts, right? It's

[56:04] like, "Whoa, she's really hot. I really

[56:06] like her." Blah, blah, blah. Then it's

[56:07] like, "Shit, what if she doesn't like

[56:09] me?" Well, that's just a personal

[56:10] preference and it's only happening right

[56:12] now. She might say no now, maybe she

[56:14] doesn't feel it, maybe she has a

[56:15] boyfriend. And then guess what? You get

[56:17] a text in a week, in a month, in a year.

[56:20] So, it's staying open to the fact that

[56:22] you can't not be related, but only

[56:24] always. And based on that energy, you

[56:27] will attract the right people at the

[56:29] right time and just to trust that.

[56:33] Okay?

[56:34] >> Yeah.

[56:35] >> I know it's a lot. But I'm you know, you

[56:38] can watch this podcast yourself as many

[56:39] times as you want. Now, this is the This

[56:42] is something that again is going to blow

[56:44] people's minds. You said very accurately

[56:46] based on your previous conditioning,

[56:48] let's already make it old. You were

[56:50] looking through the lens of not wanted.

[56:52] What you wanted was love, like

[56:53] everybody.

[56:54] But you saw that because of your

[56:56] conditioning, you couldn't let the love

[56:57] in, right? You just gave this whole

[56:59] statement that was very powerful. Wow, I

[57:01] can see that there were probably people

[57:03] who really adored me. But I could never

[57:05] see it, never allow it, never feel it

[57:07] because you're too busy looking for the

[57:10] evidence that this isn't going to work

[57:11] or either you're not wanted, right? Make

[57:13] sense?

[57:14] >> Yeah.

[57:15] >> So now it changes. The game is not only

[57:19] do you let the love in, which isn't

[57:21] really letting love in, and I want

[57:24] everyone to get this, it's allowing your

[57:26] love out.

[57:29] >> Mhm.

[57:30] >> Right? [clears throat]

[57:31] And simultaneously allowing their love

[57:34] out, right? So

[57:36] meaning, and I know this gets very

[57:38] subtle, but it's powerful. It's not that

[57:41] you're letting love in, that implies

[57:43] that you're kind of empty in the love

[57:45] department.

[57:46] >> Mhm.

[57:46] >> No, you are love.

[57:49] So the joy of being in love with

[57:51] somebody isn't that they love you, it's

[57:54] that you experience how they can express

[57:58] love for themselves.

[57:59] >> Could you say that again?

[58:01] >> No. Yes, of course.

[58:04] >> [laughter]

[58:04] >> It isn't so much that you are wanting

[58:07] somebody to be in love with you, it's so

[58:11] that you are love itself, and when you

[58:13] are you're grounded in your own nature

[58:15] of love, you get to witness somebody

[58:18] find their own capacity to love.

[58:22] >> Mhm.

[58:24] Mhm.

[58:24] >> Which you are the beneficiary of, of

[58:26] course. Being in the presence of

[58:28] somebody who's experiencing their own

[58:29] love is going to have direct

[58:32] ramifications onto you versus somebody

[58:34] who's in their own expression of hate,

[58:36] anger, and worthlessness, which you

[58:38] know, can be more dysfunctional, which

[58:40] you've been experiencing like most

[58:41] people, right?

[58:42] >> Yeah.

[58:43] >> So do you see? I just It's very subtle,

[58:45] and this is very advanced. It's not that

[58:47] you're letting love in, which would

[58:49] imply that you are needing to be loved,

[58:53] right? That's how most people relate to

[58:55] relationships because most people are in

[58:57] a relationship of inadequacy with

[58:59] themselves. I'm not loved, I'm not

[59:01] wanted, I'm not enough, I'm not safe,

[59:03] I'm not worthy, whatever it is. So then

[59:05] you, person over there who's my husband,

[59:07] wife, friend, you love me so that I feel

[59:10] better about myself. That's

[59:11] manipulation. That's how relationships

[59:13] don't work. No, your opportunity now is

[59:16] to realize you were never ever looking

[59:19] for somebody else to love you.

[59:21] You were looking to get out of the

[59:22] prison that you didn't fundamentally

[59:24] know your own capacity to love.

[59:29] Do you see that?

[59:31] >> Yeah.

[59:31] >> See, when you really get your time, and

[59:33] I know how sensitive and kind and loving

[59:35] you are, when you tap into that for

[59:36] yourself, it won't matter if somebody

[59:39] wants to be with you or not.

[59:41] Because love doesn't have that agenda.

[59:45] Do you see?

[59:46] >> Yeah.

[59:46] >> Now, ironically again, like the paradox

[59:48] of that is that when you're so loving,

[59:50] people just want to be around you cuz

[59:52] everybody's looking for love,

[59:53] >> [laughter]

[59:54] >> thinking that it's going to come from

[59:55] somebody else. That's why I said the

[59:57] joke is that in, you know, couple of

[59:59] weeks, a month from now, you're going to

[1:00:00] want another podcast is like, "Holy

[1:00:02] [ __ ] before I couldn't find a

[1:00:03] relationship, now I've got too many."

[1:00:05] >> [laughter]

[1:00:07] >> You're getting there, don't worry.

[1:00:12] >> So, being the expression of love

[1:00:16] now doesn't so much let love in,

[1:00:20] but it reveals the love that you are.

[1:00:25] >> Yeah.

[1:00:25] >> And in the presence of somebody who is

[1:00:28] expressing the love that they are, other

[1:00:30] people get to do the same. At least as a

[1:00:33] possibility. Some people are going to be

[1:00:35] way too attached to their limitations

[1:00:37] and their fears and their justifications

[1:00:39] and, you know, call you an [ __ ]

[1:00:41] because, you know, threatens their story

[1:00:44] that they're not wanted. They're like,

[1:00:45] they'll have to push you away cuz you're

[1:00:47] loving. It's like, "That doesn't That

[1:00:49] doesn't work for me. I need to feel not

[1:00:50] wanted."

[1:00:51] >> Right.

[1:00:52] >> Like, people will literally sabotage

[1:00:53] relationships with somebody who adores

[1:00:56] them because they need to hold on to

[1:00:58] their story of abandonment or feeling

[1:01:00] inadequate or not wanted. It's madness.

[1:01:02] I've experienced it myself. You know,

[1:01:04] it's heartbreaking. You can love

[1:01:06] somebody as much as you love somebody,

[1:01:08] but if they're not there yet,

[1:01:11] it they're going to they're going to

[1:01:12] find evidence.

[1:01:16] Can you see that? But I mean you you

[1:01:18] were doing it.

[1:01:19] >> Yeah, I was doing it. I was experiencing

[1:01:21] myself from

[1:01:23] I was on it from both sides, yeah.

[1:01:25] >> Yeah.

[1:01:26] So now the possibility for you, my

[1:01:28] friend, is enormous because now in the

[1:01:30] absence of those lies that you're not

[1:01:32] not wanted, that you're not not

[1:01:34] included, that you're not less than,

[1:01:36] those were lies that were driving your

[1:01:38] thoughts, emotions, behaviors, and

[1:01:41] consequently creating your results.

[1:01:43] That's how physics works, right? But now

[1:01:46] you get to be somebody in the absence of

[1:01:48] those limitations who is just loving,

[1:01:50] trusting, open. That's who I meet. If

[1:01:53] they're into me, great. And if I feel

[1:01:54] the same, great. Let's just play for a

[1:01:56] while. Let's see where this goes.

[1:01:58] Not because I need to desperately find

[1:02:00] approval, which is only reinforcing the

[1:02:02] underlying belief that you're not

[1:02:03] approved for who you are. That was a

[1:02:04] lie. Now you get to explore actual

[1:02:07] relationship. What a novelty.

[1:02:10] >> [laughter]

[1:02:12] >> Isn't that cool? [clears throat]

[1:02:13] So the reason, and this comes full

[1:02:15] circle to how we started this, you

[1:02:16] couldn't have a relationship is cuz you

[1:02:18] weren't wired to be in relationship.

[1:02:21] It's physics. That's the good news.

[1:02:23] Now

[1:02:25] you get to see, oh, I'm wired for

[1:02:26] relationship because I'm inherently

[1:02:28] related to everybody.

[1:02:30] The difference is I don't know the

[1:02:31] details. That's called getting to know

[1:02:33] somebody.

[1:02:34] Right? That's the beauty of like getting

[1:02:36] to know somebody's story. But underneath

[1:02:37] it, guess what? Like mycelium underneath

[1:02:40] the soil, it's all connected.

[1:02:42] Consciousness is inherently connected.

[1:02:45] >> [snorts]

[1:02:45] >> Then whether you like their values and

[1:02:47] whether your hobbies align or, you know,

[1:02:49] they you know, they like to sleep in a

[1:02:51] really cold room and you like a warm

[1:02:53] room, it's like, okay, you figure that

[1:02:54] [ __ ] out and it does it works or it

[1:02:56] doesn't, you know? That's just personal

[1:02:57] preference.

[1:02:58] >> Mhm.

[1:03:01] >> But doesn't that just take the the the

[1:03:03] the gravity and the heaviness of it all

[1:03:05] off?

[1:03:06] >> Yeah. [laughter]

[1:03:06] >> Isn't that nice?

[1:03:09] Yeah.

[1:03:10] >> It's just taking a It just takes a while

[1:03:12] to like

[1:03:13] imagine those situations or

[1:03:15] um

[1:03:16] >> Well, of course, cuz you have to right

[1:03:17] now imagine cuz you're still sitting at

[1:03:19] home in a chair that, you know, we

[1:03:20] started this conversation where over an

[1:03:22] hour ago you were literally in a world

[1:03:24] where you couldn't connect with people.

[1:03:27] Now I'm showing you an entirely new

[1:03:28] world, which can be jarring for the

[1:03:30] nervous system, exciting for the heart,

[1:03:32] cuz you're obviously a loving guy.

[1:03:34] But yeah, you got to get out there in

[1:03:35] the field and and start playing and

[1:03:37] practicing.

[1:03:38] >> Yeah.

[1:03:41] >> But that's cool. That's fun. That's your

[1:03:43] your assignment, your mission if you

[1:03:44] choose to accept.

[1:03:46] >> Yeah.

[1:03:46] >> This message will self-destruct in 5

[1:03:48] seconds.

[1:03:49] >> [laughter]

[1:03:52] >> Anyway.

[1:03:54] So, um

[1:03:56] you ready to go out there and play, meet

[1:03:57] some people who you already related to,

[1:03:59] but you don't necessarily know?

[1:04:02] >> Yeah.

[1:04:03] >> Isn't that cool?

[1:04:05] >> Yeah.

[1:04:06] >> Yeah.

[1:04:07] That's fun.

[1:04:08] >> Yeah, it's exciting exciting to Yeah.

[1:04:11] >> Yeah.

[1:04:12] Shed those those those barriers.

[1:04:16] >> Yeah.

[1:04:16] >> can't wait, cuz we'll check in. I can't

[1:04:18] wait to find out, you know, what that

[1:04:19] looks like in a few weeks, in a couple

[1:04:21] of months, or whatever. And it's like,

[1:04:22] holy [ __ ] like, you know?

[1:04:24] >> Yeah.

[1:04:24] >> the most amazing people. I feel so

[1:04:26] relaxed around people. If they want to

[1:04:28] not communicate for a while,

[1:04:30] you you let people be, you know? If they

[1:04:32] don't want to If they don't speak to you

[1:04:34] for a few days, or they change their

[1:04:35] mind, that's okay.

[1:04:38] Love didn't go anywhere, cuz you are

[1:04:39] love.

[1:04:41] How cool is that?

[1:04:42] >> Yeah.

[1:04:44] Yeah.

[1:04:46] >> Where's the desperation in that world?

[1:04:51] >> Yeah.

[1:04:53] >> There's none, right?

[1:04:56] No neediness.

[1:04:58] And that, my friend, is that is

[1:05:00] attraction itself.

[1:05:02] A human being who doesn't need anything

[1:05:04] or even want anything from anybody else

[1:05:07] is incredibly attractive.

[1:05:10] >> Yeah.

[1:05:12] >> Do you see that?

[1:05:13] >> Definitely.

[1:05:15] >> That's your opportunity now to embody

[1:05:17] that.

[1:05:18] Not as another pretense, not as trying

[1:05:19] to be cool as, you know, the guy who

[1:05:21] doesn't need anyone, but like as a

[1:05:22] genuine experience. That's going to take

[1:05:24] a little while for you to to harness and

[1:05:26] integrate. That's okay.

[1:05:28] >> Yeah.

[1:05:28] >> But at least you now understand the

[1:05:29] principles by which you were being

[1:05:32] driven through no fault of your own that

[1:05:34] would lead to the fact that you couldn't

[1:05:36] have relationships. It's like, "Oh my

[1:05:37] god, no wonder."

[1:05:40] >> Yeah.

[1:05:40] >> So your time suddenly became available.

[1:05:42] You're you know, welcome to planet

[1:05:44] Earth. Welcome to relating.

[1:05:46] >> Wow.

[1:05:48] >> [laughter]

[1:05:48] >> Yeah, this is really cool. This is

[1:05:50] really cool to hear.

[1:05:52] What you're saying and just being just

[1:05:53] being here, you know. I just needed to

[1:05:55] hear I knew all this. I needed to hear

[1:05:57] it from you though.

[1:05:58] >> Yeah, of course. I'm going to I'm going

[1:06:00] to say you didn't know all of it, but

[1:06:02] >> [laughter]

[1:06:05] >> Yeah, that's okay. You understand it

[1:06:07] now.

[1:06:07] >> Yeah.

[1:06:09] >> Amazing.

[1:06:11] Okay, well you you ready to take on your

[1:06:13] mission and get out there and start

[1:06:15] meeting people from a place of lack of

[1:06:17] need, lack of desperation, and just

[1:06:19] genuine curiosity?

[1:06:21] >> Yeah.

[1:06:24] >> Pretty cool, huh?

[1:06:26] How does that feel in your body now?

[1:06:29] You know, you said we had the

[1:06:30] compression on your chest. You've had

[1:06:32] some big exhales, so I'm guessing that

[1:06:35] the body feels a little different.

[1:06:37] >> I think I I feeling a bit you know,

[1:06:41] >> Jiggly?

[1:06:41] >> [laughter]

[1:06:42] >> Yeah, in a good way. Like not from some

[1:06:44] nervousness from like

[1:06:46] kind of holy [ __ ] this is happening

[1:06:47] kind of way. Holy [ __ ]

[1:06:49] >> Yeah.

[1:06:50] >> You know?

[1:06:50] >> Yeah. It is a holy [ __ ] I mean, I

[1:06:52] listen, I don't want to in any way

[1:06:54] dismiss the power of these

[1:06:55] conversations, and it can be jarring,

[1:06:57] you know, wait till I you know, you've

[1:06:59] seen conversations I have with 30, 40,

[1:07:01] 50-year-olds. It's even more

[1:07:02] disorienting, right? Cuz they've had you

[1:07:04] know, three, four more decades of

[1:07:06] evidence than you. You know, at least

[1:07:08] you're sort of still a young buck, and

[1:07:10] it's convincing the way that you've you

[1:07:12] know, conditioned yourself is just not

[1:07:13] true.

[1:07:14] But when you free a mind, you know, that

[1:07:16] has been in a prison for 20, 40, 50

[1:07:19] years, it's like, "Whoa."

[1:07:21] >> Whoa, yeah.

[1:07:22] >> Yeah, it's like, "Holy [ __ ] what is it?

[1:07:25] What is this place, you know?

[1:07:28] Yeah, so that's okay. You you will

[1:07:30] integrate. You're a smart guy. You'll

[1:07:32] listen to this again and life

[1:07:34] energetically is going to support you

[1:07:35] cuz as you shift into different

[1:07:37] frequencies, you're going to have

[1:07:39] automatically, you know, you know, you

[1:07:41] might even when you go to check your

[1:07:42] phone from here, you might have an

[1:07:44] unusual text, an unusual email, a missed

[1:07:46] call from somebody that like, oh wow,

[1:07:49] you know, cuz the universe it's

[1:07:50] instantaneous, you know, once you shift

[1:07:52] a frequency

[1:07:54] it's like, whoa. Do you see that?

[1:07:56] >> Yeah, and I I've noticed it in times

[1:07:58] where in like I had a few days where

[1:08:00] this where I felt that I didn't have

[1:08:03] these underlying fears and patterns that

[1:08:06] just immediately things just uh

[1:08:08] >> Yeah.

[1:08:09] >> Pop up.

[1:08:10] >> Show up.

[1:08:11] >> Yeah.

[1:08:11] >> Yeah, it is instantaneous.

[1:08:13] >> I have I have a like a a last question

[1:08:16] or something that if if

[1:08:18] >> Okay, go ahead.

[1:08:19] >> Um I obviously want a gang of community.

[1:08:22] I've always like a um complained that I

[1:08:25] couldn't find these relationships, this

[1:08:27] gang, like a group of a friend group.

[1:08:30] And I find that I'm a bit awkward uh

[1:08:32] around like um I want to hang out with

[1:08:35] this friend, but then they invite their

[1:08:38] friend and I don't I'm not I don't

[1:08:41] really like them or I don't have a good

[1:08:42] vibe with them or there's I don't know

[1:08:44] whatever. They're not my type or

[1:08:46] whatever. And I

[1:08:49] it's like I'm inviting uh

[1:08:53] um

[1:08:54] like friends and stuff, but then I'm

[1:08:56] kind of rejecting the thing that it

[1:08:58] comes with

[1:09:00] >> Okay.

[1:09:01] >> How do I like not be awkward around this

[1:09:04] like like saying yes to this person, not

[1:09:06] this to this like, you know.

[1:09:08] >> Yeah, I think there's an expression uh

[1:09:10] and I don't know who it's from and I'm

[1:09:11] terribly paraphrasing it, but it's like

[1:09:13] somebody said, you know, I don't like

[1:09:15] this person. I must get to know them

[1:09:17] better.

[1:09:19] >> Hm.

[1:09:22] >> Right? Did you Do you hear what that

[1:09:24] appeals to? Meaning you've created a

[1:09:26] judgment of them, but if you recognize

[1:09:29] underneath the spirit that is everybody,

[1:09:31] everybody has a heart,

[1:09:32] that there's something that I don't know

[1:09:34] about them that would allow me to maybe

[1:09:36] get rid of the judgment.

[1:09:39] >> Mhm. Yeah.

[1:09:42] >> Do you see that?

[1:09:43] >> Yeah.

[1:09:45] >> Yeah, so again it invites curiosity.

[1:09:47] Before you were in fear, control,

[1:09:49] manipulation with an agenda, now you can

[1:09:51] be in curiosity. And you still don't

[1:09:53] need to like the person, you don't need

[1:09:54] to invite them around to Thanksgiving or

[1:09:56] holidays or whatever. You know, that's

[1:09:58] okay.

[1:10:00] But

[1:10:01] I would invite you to get

[1:10:03] um behind your judgments of others.

[1:10:08] And again, look, there's some people out

[1:10:09] there who are atrocious, you know, there

[1:10:10] are people out there who are doing

[1:10:12] horrific things in the world. There are

[1:10:14] certain people that I don't know

[1:10:16] personally, but I know because of

[1:10:18] you know, things that have been

[1:10:19] released, different files, shall we say,

[1:10:21] that we know how people have been

[1:10:23] treating children, animals, whatever.

[1:10:25] You know, it's like they're not

[1:10:26] necessarily my kind of tribe, you know.

[1:10:28] But I'm not going to judge, they have

[1:10:30] their own karma to play out. That's

[1:10:31] okay, that's on them. Karma's going to

[1:10:33] take care of the details, I always tell

[1:10:35] people, right? So, I would just be open,

[1:10:37] you know, if these are friends of your

[1:10:39] friends, you know, you you like friend

[1:10:41] A, but you don't like their friend B,

[1:10:43] that's okay, you know, there's probably

[1:10:45] something that you just don't know about

[1:10:47] them that could be that like, "Oh, wow,

[1:10:48] I didn't even realize that we have this

[1:10:51] in common." or

[1:10:52] you know?

[1:10:53] >> Yeah.

[1:10:55] >> Just stay open.

[1:10:58] Okay?

[1:10:59] >> Yeah.

[1:11:00] Sounds good.

[1:11:02] >> Well, Tom, it's a pleasure to be with

[1:11:03] you. Thank you for finally coming to

[1:11:05] meet and relate with another human

[1:11:08] being.

[1:11:09] >> Yeah. I'm I'm

[1:11:11] this is

[1:11:12] it's been a pleasure and I I was just so

[1:11:14] excited to hear that this is was going

[1:11:15] to happen and uh

[1:11:16] and I'm glad it did. Have a lot to think

[1:11:18] about.

[1:11:19] >> Yeah, there's a lot to I know a lot I've

[1:11:21] sort of dropped some advanced

[1:11:23] distinctions there, but I I just

[1:11:25] appealed to your intelligence and I I

[1:11:26] really get how much you care, how loving

[1:11:29] you are. I can really see how much it

[1:11:32] means to you to connect with people. And

[1:11:34] so, I really wanted to give you as much

[1:11:37] uh

[1:11:38] insight as I could, so that you can

[1:11:40] really honor the size of heart you have,

[1:11:42] so you start to connect with people and

[1:11:44] express the love that you are.

[1:11:47] >> Yeah, I'm really grateful.

[1:11:50] Thank you.

[1:11:50] >> Pleasure to be with you, my friend.

[1:11:53] Okay, well, go out there and be loving.

[1:11:55] Meet people who you've always been

[1:11:56] connected to, you just didn't know the

[1:11:58] details of their life.

[1:12:00] >> If you enjoyed that episode of Finding

[1:12:02] Freedom, then I invite you to check out

[1:12:04] another episode. Click right here.

Peter Crone
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In this conversation, the idea is that a person can want closeness intensely and still behave in ways that keep others at a distance, often because of a defensive pattern learned long ago. Peter Crone's approach suggests the pattern is driven by fear of rejection rather than indifference. Recognizing the belief underneath, such as feeling unwanted, is the first step toward seeing how it shapes behavior.
Yotam describes trying to keep a relationship from 'sinking' by being endlessly flexible and always available, which he admits is a kind of people-pleasing. Crone's framing suggests that constant vigilance and over-accommodation can make a person hard to be close to, and can produce the very distance they fear. The strategy meant to secure love ends up reinforcing the belief that they are not wanted.
In the episode, Yotam's fifth-grade experience of asking a girl out and being laughed at becomes a formative moment. Crone points out that the lesson was not only about that girl but about Yotam's ability to trust his own read on people. That loss of self-trust can carry into adult relationships, where ambiguous signals get interpreted as confirmation of rejection.
Peter Crone uses the phrase to describe what happens when a person's perception is contradicted by an experience, such as believing someone is interested and then being rejected. The person may conclude that they cannot rely on their own instincts about others. In this conversation, that conclusion is tied to ongoing difficulty in forming secure friendships and romances.
In the later part of the conversation, Crone describes the nervous system as wired to survive relationships, which frames fear of rejection as an old protective strategy rather than a fact about a person's worth. The idea is that these responses often fire before conscious thought and can shape which people we're drawn to. Recognizing the response as a response, rather than as truth, is presented as the starting point for change.
The full episode, titled 'He Was Emotionally Unavailable (without realizing),' is on Peter Crone's YouTube channel and runs about 1 hour 12 minutes. It is part of his Finding Freedom series. Crone's own offerings are listed at petercrone.com.

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