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[0:00] the word victim to me is a misnomer
[0:02] right no one is a victim of anything
[0:04] even though in everyday language as
[0:05] human beings we have collectively agreed
[0:07] that certain you know acts are just
[0:09] horrific and abhorrent and you're a
[0:11] victim of fill in the blank it's such a
[0:13] sensitive subject and it probably
[0:15] requires a lot more to unpack but just
[0:18] consider that there's no such thing as a
[0:19] victim because from the perspective of
[0:22] the essence of who you are the soul that
[0:23] you've curated the events of your life
[0:25] that everything is in effect for your
[0:26] own Evolution and for that reason you
[0:28] have not consciously but a unconsciously
[0:31] sort of attracted the circumstances that
[0:33] are for your own benefit for your own
[0:35] growth then you start to slip from
[0:36] victimhood to being an author to having
[0:39] 100% responsibility and accountability
[0:41] fundamentally it's sort of an onoff
[0:42] switch you're either 100% responsible
[0:44] for your life or you're a
[0:49] victim hello and welcome to another
[0:51] episode of the markr podcast today I
[0:53] have returning guest good friend Peter
[0:57] Crone give it
[0:59] up well welcome back thank you sir in
[1:02] person live in the flesh this is the
[1:04] first time that we get hang out first
[1:06] time we've met I know which is actually
[1:09] kind of the internet and FaceTime and
[1:11] all that kind of stuff yeah has
[1:13] completely transcended the idea of like
[1:16] when I met you in person you're
[1:17] definitely a lot taller than me so that
[1:20] changes things but that's not my first
[1:22] experience with people being taller
[1:24] shocking does that mean we're not going
[1:25] to meet again yeah like it's not that
[1:28] I'm short he's excessively tall right
[1:30] I'm just a
[1:32] giant but so for those of you that don't
[1:35] know Peter Crone known as the Mind
[1:37] architect what right is that possible
[1:41] not not anymore exactly but yeah he is
[1:44] known as the Mind architect and really
[1:46] the first time I met you I believe Nick
[1:48] Anin introduced us yes I think so and
[1:52] Shout out I remember yeah shout out to
[1:54] Nick I remember the first conversation
[1:56] we had I was talking about how when I
[1:58] drive down the road
[2:01] that I'll never forget it because of
[2:03] what you said to me but that you D I was
[2:05] driving down the road and I have this
[2:06] feeling when I want to change lanes that
[2:09] if the other car moves forward they're
[2:11] purposely moving forward so I can't
[2:13] change lanes yeah which is this is
[2:16] ridiculous yeah but how that makes me
[2:18] feel and how that like is a baseline
[2:21] yeah thought process do you want to
[2:23] deconstruct my brain well you tell me
[2:25] what you got from it let's see if you've
[2:26] actually grown at
[2:29] all um
[2:31] well how it makes me feel believing that
[2:33] that's true like just that I'm operating
[2:35] through the world believing that people
[2:37] are trying to actually oppose my
[2:39] movement forward yes that that's even in
[2:41] the realm of his thought process or hers
[2:44] yeah it's usually a guy though yeah of
[2:46] course guys a dicks yeah like in driving
[2:49] ego come on Meanwhile my whole ego is
[2:52] narrating like the what was happening
[2:55] but I remember when you shared that with
[2:56] me like breaking down how did I feel
[2:59] what was the belief I had about the
[3:01] person driving yeah I'm like oh there
[3:03] there was way too many algorithms going
[3:05] on in what I just thought was a
[3:06] malicious driver yeah everything
[3:08] thwarting your forward progress in life
[3:11] yeah and another thing I remember I was
[3:13] talking about letting someone go from my
[3:15] work yeah and that it just wasn't aign
[3:18] anymore and there was nothing no hard
[3:20] feelings or anything like that and I you
[3:23] were asking me about the fears of
[3:25] letting them go and you had said that
[3:28] you not letting them go is believing you
[3:30] know better mhm what is for them better
[3:33] than what the universe knows is for them
[3:36] and for yourself and for yourself yeah
[3:38] even including the car like so even now
[3:40] just for the folks at home being as
[3:42] you're this like now highly evolved
[3:44] version of the previous year that I met
[3:47] what would you the same not taller that
[3:50] that takes a little longer to catch up
[3:52] um what would be a different way that
[3:54] you could refrain that car that's
[3:56] nudging ahead so you can't get in that
[3:58] in some way it's protecting me could be
[4:02] that's one way good I like that what
[4:03] what could be another
[4:05] way in terms of who you could be in the
[4:09] scenario so it's not that they are
[4:11] stopping you from forward progression in
[4:13] life which is metaphorical for so many
[4:15] things but yeah who could you be in that
[4:18] instance I could slow down and move in
[4:20] behind them and what would that perhaps
[4:23] how would that be a new narrative about
[4:24] who you are as a
[4:26] human it it feels like there' be a
[4:29] slowing down as soft softening a
[4:31] trusting a moving a flowing yeah it
[4:34] would feel less resistant exactly trying
[4:36] to squeeze in the front right which is a
[4:38] scarcity mindset right if you look at it
[4:40] so if you look at it relative to that
[4:42] person too and there's a hierarchy
[4:43] potentially of
[4:44] needs if you in that new reframe who
[4:48] could you be relative to them looking
[4:51] through this sort of more you know
[4:54] philanthropic giving abundant if if
[4:57] their urgency their need to prove their
[5:00] desperation to be right to compete is
[5:03] their current existence like there's
[5:06] compassion right if if I can be a big
[5:08] enough human being that then need to
[5:10] save one and a half two seconds of time
[5:13] or just to be right which as you know
[5:15] from my quotes is the poor man's version
[5:16] of self-worth like you know then I can
[5:19] be big enough of a being that I realize
[5:21] that's not going to impact who I am or
[5:23] where I'm going so it's completely the
[5:25] antithesis of the way your brain was
[5:26] previously interpreting the events it's
[5:29] so true 's competitive scarce as you
[5:31] said and the other one's like oh like
[5:34] just allow like move in yeah support
[5:37] them do whatever you know exactly that's
[5:40] why I use the word philanthropic so it's
[5:41] like if I can in my own interpretation
[5:43] and experience of myself be so vast so
[5:46] big so boundless that something that's
[5:49] so benign in everyday existence isn't
[5:52] going to affect me quite the contrary
[5:53] that I want you to feel whatever you
[5:56] need to get that sense of satisfaction
[5:59] to feel safe to feel uh like you won
[6:03] because clearly your sense of selfworth
[6:05] and your inability to be gracious and
[6:07] let me in shows that you're in a world
[6:09] of scarcity and and limitation so and my
[6:12] giving might change your mindset not
[6:15] that that's the intention but no but it
[6:17] would just energetically right when you
[6:18] look when you um when the things you
[6:21] look at know what's that term from Wayne
[6:23] D when you look at the when you change
[6:25] way you look at things the things you
[6:26] look at change right so energetically
[6:28] just in that moment you're literally
[6:30] signaling to the universe that I'm okay
[6:33] versus the previous was like not only am
[6:35] I not okay I'm missing something and I'm
[6:37] in a fight or flight have a mild state
[6:39] of mind it's so simple it's like such a
[6:43] Isn't that cool and we all have these
[6:46] little tiny things that are
[6:48] metaphorically much bigger yeah like the
[6:50] way we drive is the way we live I don't
[6:52] know if that's necessarily true but
[6:54] there's probably some truth to it or
[6:56] wherever you go there you are right so
[6:58] it's that hologram effect right or like
[7:00] where the minute moments of everyday
[7:03] life really are a reflection of the
[7:04] bigger issues that you're dealing with
[7:05] as a
[7:08] being welcome to the stratosphere
[7:10] everybody how's that first stop
[7:13] fantastic we just completely reconciled
[7:16] any kind of traffic
[7:18] Wes this is appropriate because we're in
[7:20] La yes I know so I've never seen so much
[7:23] road rage and speeding and obnoxious
[7:25] exhaust pipes so one circumstance that I
[7:27] see a lot relationally and I've
[7:30] experienced but I've seen it a lot and
[7:32] the question seems to be one of the most
[7:34] paralyzing freeze questions which is how
[7:38] do I know if I stay or go in a
[7:42] relationship like how do I know if this
[7:44] is for me or it's not and let's phrase
[7:48] that we're not talking about someone
[7:50] who's in a relationship with an abuser
[7:51] or a repeated cheater because I think
[7:53] the answers are relatively uh not when
[7:56] you're in it they're not obvious but
[7:58] when you're out of it it's easier to see
[7:59] yeah um and we could touch on that but
[8:01] let's say that the person feels like
[8:03] they're a good person the relationship's
[8:05] kind
[8:07] of but we're having a hard time
[8:09] reconciling this idea of leaving
[8:12] mhm and any more context I'll make up
[8:15] it's a great question and I you know I'm
[8:17] immediately drawn to the three words
[8:19] that were sort of
[8:20] my uh moment of Liberation in my own
[8:23] life when I was trying to figure out
[8:25] very similar
[8:28] questions um and the answer is I don't
[8:31] know next
[8:33] question uh but there's so much Beauty
[8:36] in that right because if you really can
[8:38] marry the subjective experience of
[8:40] uncertainty meaning I don't know should
[8:42] I stay with this person should I go I
[8:45] think I could come up with a song around
[8:46] that should I stay or should I go now
[8:48] something something it would be catchy
[8:50] it would get back to that when I get
[8:52] home um relative to the actual structure
[8:56] and nature of life itself which is
[8:57] uncertainty right so if you start to see
[9:00] the almost Preposterous nature of how
[9:02] the brain works which is designed to
[9:04] predict and protect that we live in a
[9:06] paradigm which by default is uncertain
[9:08] right we don't know what's going to
[9:09] happen I didn't know you're going to ask
[9:10] that question we didn't know there was
[9:11] going to be a an earthquake I still
[9:13] didn't experience it um and yet there's
[9:16] the human faculty of trying to figure
[9:18] out what's going to happen and to start
[9:20] to see the the complete conflict of
[9:23] those two states right life is unknown
[9:25] and as a human we want to know yeah you
[9:28] shared too which I love how you frame
[9:30] this that the default program in that is
[9:34] that it's not going to go well yes is
[9:36] one of the lenses yeah so I talk about
[9:38] these 10 Primal prisons that you know I
[9:41] share with people and I discuss on um my
[9:44] Mastermind um and as it relates to the
[9:46] Future how we fundamentally are in
[9:50] relationship to future thoughts there's
[9:52] no such thing as a future there's just
[9:53] thoughts about the future right which
[9:55] itself can be mind-blowing for people
[9:57] they think there's a future and no
[9:58] you're not worried about the future
[9:59] you're worried about your thoughts about
[10:00] a perceived future so the default lens
[10:04] that we look through is what I call I'm
[10:05] not going to be okay so sort of factory
[10:07] setting of the brain is that the
[10:09] perception of whatever it is that I
[10:10] think about in the future is sort of
[10:12] within that
[10:13] context but to come back to your
[10:15] question about in a relationship whether
[10:16] we should go whether we should not aside
[10:19] from sitting in the I don't know which
[10:21] is a very unpleasant place for all
[10:22] humans to sit by virtue of what I just
[10:23] shared which is the brain is always
[10:25] trying to figure it out so you have to
[10:26] give up that mechanism that coping
[10:28] strategy um which itself can be
[10:30] incredibly liberating because it's the
[10:32] ultimate form of trust where I'm
[10:34] actually going to sit and surrender to
[10:36] not knowing what's going to happen even
[10:38] though my Machinery wants to try and
[10:39] figure it out which is a it's a means of
[10:41] trying to Garner safety right we just
[10:43] want to know that we're going to be okay
[10:45] so are the ruminating all that
[10:46] everything yeah it's it's exhausting
[10:49] right and it's not actually doing
[10:50] anything no you're basically having a
[10:52] conversation with your own thought
[10:54] processes uh usually a very unpleasant
[10:56] one almost you know confronting
[11:00] um um So within that not knowing that
[11:04] doesn't satisfy many people at all the
[11:07] slightly more fulfilling response to the
[11:10] question is it doesn't
[11:13] matter which for many people as I heard
[11:15] that they're like oh he's going to give
[11:16] me the answer they're sitting at home
[11:18] going I'm in a shitty relationship okay
[11:20] yeah the I don't know doesn't help I try
[11:22] to sit with that meditate I don't but
[11:24] let's see what he's about to say that is
[11:26] apparently more fulfilling it doesn't
[11:28] matter
[11:30] how the [ __ ] does that help me right and
[11:32] the reason being and this goes into the
[11:34] real esoterics of at least how I foresee
[11:36] the human journey and why we're here
[11:38] which is we arrive with all these fears
[11:40] and the game of life is really how can
[11:41] we reconcile transcend and get Beyond
[11:43] them so the means by which we do that
[11:45] starts to become irrelevant it's not
[11:47] completely irrelevant because obviously
[11:49] we as best as we can we want to choose a
[11:51] path that isn't littered with abuse harm
[11:53] and suffering but it's sort of
[11:55] unavoidable so whether you stay with
[11:57] somebody or you don't you're for you and
[12:01] by what that means is like I I did in my
[12:03] highlights once I had a lot of questions
[12:05] and one was about like how do you know
[12:07] similar to the question if you're with
[12:08] the right one and my sort of more short
[12:12] borderline flipping response is
[12:13] everyone's the right
[12:15] one they're right for where you are
[12:17] right now and so in the process of our
[12:20] own Evolution our own growth and the way
[12:21] that we get confronted one of my more
[12:23] popular quotes life will present you
[12:24] with people and circumstances to reveal
[12:26] where you're not free then where
[12:29] whereever you are with whomever you're
[12:31] spending time with romantically
[12:32] professionally personally whatever it is
[12:34] you're still going to come up against
[12:36] the constraints that you haven't yet
[12:37] reconciled so whether you stay with
[12:39] someone and what you need to learn in
[12:40] that situation is that perhaps there's
[12:42] an apathy or lethargy or resignation
[12:44] about you that you need to look at or
[12:46] that perhaps there's the opportunity to
[12:48] let go of grudges and things that you've
[12:50] been collecting over time so that you
[12:52] can step into a greater sense of Love
[12:53] towards that person regardless of
[12:55] whether you stay with them or not the
[12:56] opportunity is still for your own
[12:58] evolution
[12:59] conversely if you leave and you go to
[13:01] somebody else and you go through all the
[13:02] woes of you know getting to know each
[13:03] other what do you do for a living and
[13:05] then the awkwardness of taking your
[13:06] clothes off in front of a human you've
[13:07] only just met a couple of I was going to
[13:09] say a couple of weeks ago for some
[13:10] people a couple of hours
[13:11] ago whatever floody boat um you know
[13:15] you're you're still going to have to
[13:16] come up against whatever it is that
[13:17] wasn't reconciled in that previous
[13:19] relationship so that's the good news
[13:21] right like it's sort of at some level
[13:23] comforting if you really understand that
[13:25] the process of being human is for our
[13:27] own emancipation from our own constraint
[13:29] rints and that everybody else is purely
[13:31] the excuse uh to help you get to that
[13:34] place of freedom and I guess that's why
[13:36] Ram do said we're all basically just
[13:37] walking each other home so yeah I don't
[13:41] know it doesn't matter and keep going
[13:44] there is something relieving about that
[13:47] it is you know I remember someone asked
[13:49] me about the should I stare or go and I
[13:50] said well there's really no wrong choice
[13:52] no because if you decide to leave and
[13:54] you're informed you quote unquote should
[13:56] have stayed your choice to stay now is
[13:59] authen and filled with the feeling of
[14:01] what you know to leave feels like at
[14:03] that moment and even if your choice to
[14:05] come back is met with a sorry I've
[14:07] already moved on then there's the
[14:09] opportunity the growth spurt moment in
[14:12] that disappointment frustration guilt
[14:15] you know that I made a mistake I
[14:16] shouldn't have left whatever it is
[14:17] you're dealing with which would give the
[14:19] opportunity in this case for a lot of
[14:21] compassion and self forgiveness um you
[14:24] know we're all ultimately clueless and
[14:27] there's so much humility to be found in
[14:29] that
[14:30] um and it's whatever reasons what's
[14:33] coming to mind working with so many
[14:35] athletes as I do one of my sort of
[14:37] Expressions that I use with them is to
[14:39] be fully committed totally unattached
[14:42] right which seems like such a paradox
[14:44] right because especially for an athlete
[14:45] it's their livelihood they've competed
[14:47] since probably the age of three or four
[14:48] at least they learned their craft and so
[14:51] how can I be not attached to wanting to
[14:53] win the World Series or the Masters or
[14:55] wimon or um but it's in that freedom and
[14:59] again I'm not particularly religious but
[15:01] I like to pull tenants from each and you
[15:02] know I Think Jesus said don't be
[15:04] attached to the fruits of your labor
[15:06] right so if you apply that in
[15:08] relationships the opportunity is can I
[15:10] be fully loving and yet not attached to
[15:12] whether I get that reciprocated or what
[15:14] it looks like on the other side um which
[15:17] takes a very big being to be able to do
[15:19] yeah to be able to detach outcome from
[15:23] what it's true philanthropy mhm true
[15:26] altruism true love right yeah and and
[15:29] unconditional yeah which to embody is
[15:32] you know it's almost like you need to I
[15:34] was going to ask you that how do you
[15:35] ride or or be in the tension which I
[15:39] would guess is like kind of a sacred
[15:40] tension between your Human Experience of
[15:44] let's say relationship ending and the
[15:47] recognition that it needs to end because
[15:49] it's ending yeah like how do you suggest
[15:53] people
[15:54] reconcile that do you know what I mean
[15:56] because it for a lot of people I think
[15:58] especially in the spiritual sort of
[16:00] world or in the positivity space is like
[16:04] it's all serving you it's all good and
[16:06] then there there isn't also the
[16:10] recognition and use the word compassion
[16:12] too for the biological experience of
[16:16] loss yeah you know what I mean like not
[16:17] bypassing it but actually still riding
[16:19] the wave to the recognition that it is
[16:22] happening so it must be happening and it
[16:23] must be what needs to happen yeah I mean
[16:26] it's the ultimate sort of embracing of
[16:28] everything like uh one of my Expressions
[16:30] I use is love includes you and I think
[16:34] particularly if we skew a little bit
[16:35] just in this part of the conversation
[16:37] towards the feminine there's such a
[16:39] emphasis on love as something that is
[16:42] done from that person to others like
[16:44] especially you look at the mother wounds
[16:46] and how women feel that it's incumbent
[16:48] upon them to show up for fill in the
[16:50] blank husbands brothers parents
[16:53] certainly children uh and often at the
[16:55] demise of themselves or certainly to a
[16:57] degree of self-c compromise and so often
[17:01] when things aren't working especially in
[17:02] the context of a relationship there's
[17:04] this Sensation that it's uh up to me the
[17:08] individual particularly the feminine to
[17:10] be more loving give more MH and often
[17:13] times what's actually required is more
[17:15] love yes but that includes you so that
[17:18] compassion part The Grieving the loss
[17:21] wellbe it loss is another conversation
[17:23] it's it's it's a losery there's nothing
[17:25] actually lost it's just the change of
[17:27] form we don't lose anything within this
[17:28] container know this Paradigm of planet
[17:30] Earth it's just energy changes form so
[17:33] there can be a relationship that looks
[17:35] like it's complete it's done but just
[17:37] that current form I mean I've often
[17:38] worked with couples and I said in order
[17:40] for you to know what's next the current
[17:41] form of this relationship has to die
[17:44] yeah but that is equally potentially the
[17:47] opportunity for the new form to be born
[17:49] which could be with the same people just
[17:51] that they are different humans by virtue
[17:53] of the fact one they've learned to
[17:54] reconcile let go complete uh there could
[17:57] be an immense amount of forgiveness
[17:58] respons ibility accountability things
[18:00] that they're learning in the process
[18:02] which by virtue of going through
[18:03] actually gives rise to a new iteration
[18:05] of who they are so therefore they're
[18:07] actually in a new relationship even
[18:08] though by name and age and nationality
[18:11] it's the same apparently and that to me
[18:13] is one of the most profound things
[18:15] anybody can understand in the realm of
[18:17] trying to relate is that it's such a he
[18:21] thought for most people but I say that
[18:23] whenever you meet somebody just consider
[18:25] not easy to practice it's the first time
[18:27] you're meeting them because it gives
[18:29] rise to the opportunity and especially
[18:30] obviously over time if it's your wife
[18:32] you saw her this morning you come home
[18:34] 78 hours later so oh nice to meet you
[18:36] what's your name that probably wouldn't
[18:38] go down too what do you
[18:40] mean um but energetically to give people
[18:44] the permission and the opportunity to
[18:46] evolve to have changed to have changed
[18:48] because the way that most relationships
[18:51] don't work is because again by virtue of
[18:53] the way the brain works we're always
[18:55] informed by our history most people
[18:56] defined by their history and we have a
[18:59] tendency as humans because we're really
[19:02] unevolved to want to hold on to the
[19:04] things that we don't like about somebody
[19:05] as evidence as to why we need to be
[19:08] upset with them at any given moment you
[19:09] know the sort of recol the recollection
[19:12] of like these past grudges yeah and so
[19:14] within that there's actually no room for
[19:16] growth there's no room for intimacy
[19:18] energetically I mean obviously
[19:19] physically then is sort of an extension
[19:21] of that but when people are always
[19:24] knowing who they think they know because
[19:26] you've met them before then you're
[19:28] always if you really understand this
[19:29] you're always in relationship to an old
[19:31] version of
[19:33] them yeah so true you're like stuck in
[19:35] the past version of them wanting them to
[19:37] stay the same especially if it was like
[19:39] the the version that you preferred yeah
[19:42] unfortunately based on the fact that the
[19:43] ego tends to want to self-sabotage you
[19:46] know and fear will break its own heart
[19:47] meaning that we want to be right about
[19:49] what's not right so that we can
[19:50] ultimately you know destroy our own
[19:53] existence and our own sense of joy and
[19:55] possibility we tend to hold on to those
[19:57] characteristics that we aren so enamored
[20:00] by just to be right about why is so
[20:02] interesting that bias that just creates
[20:05] suffering yeah and tries to hold the
[20:07] other person in this prison of uh car
[20:09] one characteristic or two yeah it's it's
[20:12] insane and this is why you know booze
[20:15] prescription drug street drugs a
[20:17] trillion dollar business
[20:20] right you know talk to your doctor have
[20:22] another drink so yeah so hopefully
[20:23] within that you know most people who are
[20:26] listening I'm going to assert are either
[20:27] married they're in a relationship
[20:29] whether it be romantic or otherwise and
[20:31] what's the opportunity who could you be
[20:33] in the space of giving everybody around
[20:36] you to whatever degree you experience
[20:38] love or intimacy give them the
[20:40] opportunity to be a new them next time
[20:43] you see them uh and what would that be
[20:45] like what would that open up as a as an
[20:48] opportunity for the way that you could
[20:50] communicate um it's it's so beautiful
[20:53] and it and it the the catch is we think
[20:56] we're being super you know altruistic
[20:59] and philanthropic towards other humans
[21:01] but actually no because you're
[21:02] reconciling and letting go of a part of
[21:04] you that was based in judgment hostility
[21:07] uh and as Shakespeare said hatred is a
[21:09] curved blade right so in the absence of
[21:10] the you that is holding on to any past
[21:13] grudges you're actually giving yourself
[21:15] permission to be more free which is the
[21:17] access to Greater Love and the Cascade
[21:19] of how that shows up in life is really
[21:22] phenomenal under that idea what would it
[21:25] mean or how does someone quote unquote
[21:29] let go um forgive yeah let go forgive I
[21:34] mean I often say let go could be better
[21:37] described as let
[21:39] be because if you look at it actually in
[21:41] reality whatever is you're thinking you
[21:43] want to let go of has gone
[21:46] yeah bye it's done right like whatever
[21:49] it is that you're holding on to by
[21:51] virtue of the fact that you think you're
[21:52] holding on to it the grudge um the
[21:54] dissatisfaction of someone's behaviors
[21:56] words or otherwise um the fact that you
[21:59] about it means it's historical yeah so
[22:03] really it's recognizing that your
[22:04] history is your history you can't change
[22:06] it or you can change is your
[22:07] relationship to it which itself is is
[22:11] quite miraculous when people see that
[22:12] because people are under the impression
[22:13] they can change their future which
[22:14] itself is also a loser but you can't
[22:17] change your past in terms of the events
[22:19] and the facts of what actually
[22:20] transpired but you can change them
[22:22] because in the way that you relate to
[22:24] them so letting go is letting be meaning
[22:26] what happened happened couldn't have
[22:28] happened any other way because it didn't
[22:29] again one of the quotes that people find
[22:31] a lot of comfort in um and really if you
[22:35] want to do the work is like what do I
[22:37] get as a payoff by not letting go right
[22:40] because there there's no reason to hold
[22:43] on to anything unless it's sort of
[22:44] validates a component of your identity
[22:47] who you are for
[22:48] yourself which is founded in some
[22:51] constraint so ultimately you're getting
[22:53] to be right about your own sense of
[22:54] inadequacy insecurity or scarcity or
[22:57] Injustice which itself is just such a
[22:59] lame argument to hold on to like I'm
[23:01] going to hold on to this evidence from
[23:02] history which is by the way is already
[23:04] done just so that I can be right about
[23:06] why my life is not working yeah yeah
[23:08] that's so true I I remember talking to
[23:11] people where they're trying to let go of
[23:12] an ex let's say for example and they
[23:15] don't allow themselves to move forward
[23:17] yeah to prove to this other person how
[23:19] much they hurt them yeah right meanwhile
[23:21] this other person's drinking to my taii
[23:23] in Mexico not thinking anything maybe in
[23:25] a new relationship yeah and we're
[23:28] sitting there in this protest like a
[23:30] toddler yeah you know which I'm not
[23:32] negating someone's experience of pain
[23:34] but MH we prove Nothing by staying the
[23:37] same we prove Nothing by holding on it's
[23:39] almost like I'm just going to prove to
[23:40] you how much you [ __ ] me over how hurt
[23:43] I am now so I'm just going to let my
[23:45] life go in the toilet yeah while you're
[23:47] chilling yeah so so that's where I said
[23:50] there's a payoff right is ultimately the
[23:53] ego's number one prerogative we could
[23:55] argue is to be right about its own
[23:56] existence and it needs to be because its
[23:58] own existence is fictitious right so we
[24:00] need evidence we need ammunition yeah
[24:02] right its own evidence is fictitious so
[24:04] it needs evidence it exists yeah Isn't
[24:07] that cool when you really get that it's
[24:08] like it's also like [ __ ] you ego like
[24:12] you're not even real and it's like I am
[24:14] just look at all these things yeah look
[24:16] exhibit a yeah I can go on yeah it's
[24:20] it's the madness of the human
[24:21] disposition right as I said like being
[24:23] right is the poor man's version of self
[24:25] value because in the absence of knowing
[24:27] the true essence of Who We Are which is
[24:29] beneath the identity of who we are or
[24:31] the ego using the same term you know
[24:33] there is a grasping a grappling there's
[24:35] an urgency and a desperation that we all
[24:37] have to try and get some sort of
[24:39] external value often through trappings
[24:42] clothing money people that we're dating
[24:44] people that we know somebody walked Brad
[24:46] Pit's dog once you know and that's the
[24:47] story that they've been holding on
[24:49] really yeah so you want to meet that
[24:51] person um so whatever it is that we can
[24:53] do to Garner this sense of value is
[24:55] really the um reflection of the fact
[24:58] that we haven't as yet discovered our
[25:00] value is in inherent innate and so yeah
[25:04] it's it's a crazy game of what I call
[25:06] Cosmic hide-and seek right and ego does
[25:08] a great job of presenting this
[25:10] masquerading facade of limitations and
[25:14] um most people fight for
[25:16] them they do they do we'd rather have
[25:19] our limitations than you know we'd ra
[25:21] what is that saying it's like we fight
[25:22] for limitations and they're yours yeah
[25:24] yeah which is crazy fighting for your
[25:26] liberations right you know and you don't
[25:29] even have to fight for no because
[25:30] they're already yours right yeah so it's
[25:34] such a beautiful I mean whoever
[25:36] orchestrated this you know I might be
[25:37] the Mind architect but I'd like to meet
[25:38] the life architect right um and just
[25:41] whoever Drew this Matrix up yeah
[25:43] brilliant it's beyond the Sims it is
[25:45] this is It's really impressive I don't
[25:47] know maybe it is the guy with the white
[25:48] beard in the matrix it's all it's got to
[25:51] be the white guy with the white beard in
[25:52] the sky sky Daddy I think they call him
[25:55] that's what we've been taught yo doggy
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[27:08] that's saying that I think it's Alam
[27:10] waty said that the greatest trick that
[27:11] religion ever pulled was to teach you
[27:13] that they're the broker between you and
[27:14] God uhhuh your morality your everything
[27:18] they get to decide if you and approve
[27:20] which again infantilizes you to not
[27:23] being an adult and a sovereign being
[27:24] yeah you know my wife and I's book
[27:26] liberated love is about like that
[27:28] through love you liberate yourself yeah
[27:30] and also that there's this dedication to
[27:32] the truth but there's also this honoring
[27:34] of your partner's path yeah as their own
[27:37] MH because as soon as you're like no I I
[27:40] don't think you should go study that
[27:41] thing or do that or start writing or
[27:43] start I don't want you to become too
[27:45] powerful because if you do then like you
[27:48] might not walk alongside me anymore it's
[27:49] such a it's it's it's a lot like the car
[27:52] in the other lane yes you know what I
[27:53] mean yeah yeah the world is just replete
[27:57] with judgment and it's a survival
[27:59] mechanism right that we think in my
[28:01] stories the other day which we were
[28:03] talking about briefly off air before we
[28:05] started like you know the audacity of
[28:06] the human mind the ego that thinks it
[28:08] knows how other people should behave
[28:10] yeah you were talking about that with
[28:12] forgiveness which I wanted to ask you
[28:14] about that like I think the question in
[28:16] your stories was something like how do I
[28:18] forgive my mom like I've come to terms
[28:20] with what's occurred but I just I can't
[28:22] seem to let go of the like animosity I
[28:25] think the word was yeah yeah it's so
[28:28] it's it's so slippery and Insidious
[28:30] right because from that person's
[28:31] perspective we want to have compassion
[28:33] because as far as they're concerned the
[28:35] underlying sort of subtext of their
[28:37] question which I pointed to is it's the
[28:40] need or the apparent need for
[28:41] forgiveness points to the fact that that
[28:43] person's under the impression that their
[28:44] mother did something wrong right so
[28:46] there's some sort of Injustice that's
[28:47] the
[28:48] necessary it's a precursor to even the
[28:51] question of whether I can or can't
[28:53] forgive somebody so really the LIE is
[28:56] within that right because that points to
[28:58] as I said the audacity of that person
[29:00] that thinks that they know how their
[29:02] mother and there's so much contamination
[29:04] with the words Mom and Dad right where
[29:05] there's this sort of preconceived idea
[29:07] of what a mom and a dad should do and if
[29:09] you don't fit the bill of this sort of
[29:11] perfect maternal paternal role then you
[29:13] know you're basically an [ __ ] and a
[29:15] bad person verus had a bad childhood
[29:17] right versus you're just Bob and Mary
[29:19] who are filled with their own
[29:21] conditioning not knowing what the [ __ ]
[29:22] they're doing as parents cuz they've
[29:24] never done it before doing the best they
[29:26] can based on their DNA they're
[29:27] conditioning how they were raised by
[29:29] their parents and all their trials and
[29:31] tribulations failures heartbreaks that
[29:33] they went through through school high
[29:34] school and Beyond and yet from the
[29:36] perspective of the child you know you
[29:38] you fell short as a mother right right
[29:41] so within that there's so much room for
[29:43] like both awareness understanding
[29:46] compassion and so forgiveness then
[29:48] becomes moot when you realize that in
[29:50] this case Mary as this archetype was
[29:53] doing the best she could it does not for
[29:55] one moment condone the behavior itself
[29:58] right there's a abhorrent things that
[30:00] humans do to one another and parents to
[30:02] children that are you know not to be at
[30:04] all accepted and if it's an abusive
[30:07] harmful situation then obviously we want
[30:08] to do everything we can to get out of
[30:10] that situation but within the context of
[30:13] the question forgiveness itself becomes
[30:15] mute when you realize that every human
[30:16] being is doing the best they can within
[30:17] the realm of their own awareness and
[30:20] again if you are in a situation that is
[30:22] you know unpleasant hostile then you you
[30:25] want to remove yourself but there's no
[30:26] need for forgiveness right it's just
[30:28] recognizing and as best as possible
[30:30] having compassion understanding as to
[30:32] why somebody did something that's real
[30:34] love right is that I don't condone the
[30:36] behavior and in fact that's you know
[30:37] potentially both hurtful and harmful to
[30:40] me so love includes me so I would remove
[30:43] myself from the situation but
[30:44] simultaneously ask the question of why
[30:46] did they do that and secondly why am I
[30:48] in this karmically right why am I in the
[30:50] position of being hurt by somebody
[30:52] whether it's verbally emotionally
[30:53] physically because that's something for
[30:55] me to look at right if you want to be
[30:56] fully powerful and responsible how did I
[30:59] get into this scenario that is bringing
[31:01] up what I feel as an injustice that then
[31:03] I feel the need to forgive right as long
[31:05] as you're in that context of that
[31:07] conversation that somebody did something
[31:08] wrong to me then the conversation of
[31:10] forgiveness is appropriate but when you
[31:12] realize it wasn't a wrong it wasn't an
[31:14] injustice it may have been unpleasant
[31:16] hurtful and potentially dangerous but
[31:19] then there's no forgiveness there's just
[31:20] awareness right so it it it opens up an
[31:24] entirely different way of relating to
[31:25] life and other people that to me is much
[31:27] more powerful and compassion
[31:29] also feels a lot more freeing it is you
[31:31] know because there's not what I hear at
[31:33] the Baseline of my mother did something
[31:36] wrong but it's occurred so I think the
[31:41] then it's like well she didn't do it
[31:43] what occurred wasn't good it was harmful
[31:45] blah blah blah blah yeah however it
[31:48] occurred so I can't change it so it
[31:49] can't be wrong yeah right but because we
[31:52] conflate wrong with if if I now let it
[31:55] go and it was what happened yeah then
[31:59] there somehow we're negating the pain of
[32:01] what happened I hear this is a
[32:02] conversation I hear happening a lot when
[32:04] I'm like look you can't change the
[32:06] circumstances of your life but you can
[32:07] change how you relate to the
[32:09] circumstances of your life and that's
[32:10] not negating the experience of being a
[32:12] victim right but it's saying that since
[32:15] you can't change that you were a victim
[32:17] MH and you if you try to even think that
[32:19] it shouldn't happened then what you
[32:21] you're in conflict with what happened
[32:23] yeah so what you're saying is if you're
[32:24] still in conflict with what happened
[32:26] then you can't forgive it no because
[32:29] those those two things arise
[32:30] simultaneously right like so even the
[32:32] word victim to me is a misnomer right no
[32:34] one is a victim of anything even though
[32:36] in everyday language as human beings we
[32:38] have collectively agreed that certain
[32:40] you know acts are just hor horrific and
[32:42] abhorent and you're a victim of fill in
[32:45] the blank right again it's such a
[32:48] sensitive subject and it probably
[32:49] requires a lot more to unpack but just
[32:52] consider that there's no such thing as a
[32:54] victim because from the perspective of
[32:56] the essence of who you are the soul that
[32:58] you've curated the events of your life
[33:00] that everything is in effect for your
[33:02] own Evolution and for that reason you
[33:04] have not consciously but unconsciously
[33:07] sort of attracted the circumstances that
[33:09] are for your own benefit for your own
[33:10] growth right the evolution yeah yeah and
[33:12] so then you start to slip from
[33:14] victimhood to being an author to having
[33:17] 100% responsibility and accountability
[33:19] fundamentally it's sort of an onoff
[33:20] switch you're either 100% responsible
[33:22] for your life and I'll unpack
[33:24] responsibility in a second or you're a
[33:26] victim right it's not it's not a scale
[33:29] it's like when I remember working with
[33:30] this person who said I'll be more honest
[33:32] I'm like it's not more it's not like
[33:34] either are or you are not exactly you're
[33:36] like I'm 87% this week it's like no you
[33:39] either are or you are not exactly so
[33:41] let's unpack responsibility then so
[33:42] responsibility as it currently stands in
[33:44] you know British language of the
[33:46] vernacular that most people relate to it
[33:48] is it's sort of around the energy of
[33:49] guilt and fault when people say you're
[33:52] responsible I'm responsible it has this
[33:54] underlying connotation that I did
[33:55] something wrong and there's this element
[33:57] of you know Injustice to me from me but
[34:00] ultimately ends in dis disempowering
[34:03] energy of
[34:04] fault conversy the way I look at
[34:07] responsibility is much more in the realm
[34:08] of ownership and accountability that I
[34:10] responsible for the events of my life
[34:11] even in ways that I don't potentially
[34:13] subjectively understand or why they were
[34:16] in my life I didn't consciously curate
[34:18] the parking ticket the accident the
[34:20] breakup the divorce God forbid the death
[34:22] of a child or whatever it is that people
[34:24] are going through and that takes a big
[34:27] mind to be able to incorporate all the
[34:29] events of your life even those that you
[34:31] have no understanding how they
[34:32] transpired right but that is for me the
[34:35] definition of responsibility I I can
[34:36] remember using myself and by no means
[34:38] proclaiming that I'm the poster child
[34:40] for responsibility but I got T-boned by
[34:43] a car coming through a red light while I
[34:45] was on my vasper fortunately he wasn't
[34:48] going so fast that you know I didn't get
[34:51] reincarnated you know obviously I didn't
[34:53] die I'm still working on that Peter 2.0
[34:55] ex that was ped this is Peter why I'm
[34:58] now able to see things so much more
[35:00] clearly um so but my bike was ridden off
[35:03] I was spread across the road and we had
[35:05] to pick up pieces move to the side and
[35:07] do the usual human parts of exchanging
[35:10] Insurance yeah it was it was you know I
[35:13] always thought it was funny when people
[35:14] say oh my God it all happened so fast
[35:15] you know I'm like well that's why you
[35:17] didn't do anything about it if it was
[35:19] going in slow motion you would have
[35:21] moved hit the breaks so yeah so of
[35:24] course didn't see it coming anyway the
[35:27] whole point as it relates to so my
[35:28] experience of responsibility is that in
[35:30] the human realm he and his insurance
[35:32] firm were responsible for buying me a
[35:35] new bike and whatever fortunately I
[35:37] didn't have too many medical bills you
[35:39] know I got some Chinese medicine
[35:40] whatever and acupuncture but um that was
[35:44] a form of responsibility in the Manifest
[35:45] world as it relates to the 3D experience
[35:48] of being human but energetically and at
[35:51] a much more profound spiritual level for
[35:53] me I was responsible for being in that
[35:55] situation why cuz I was there and so
[35:58] even the guy who is with he's like how
[36:00] are you in shock cuz I've never met
[36:01] anybody who's so calm I'm like well no
[36:05] because fortunately I'm okay we don't
[36:07] need an ambulance so we'll just do
[36:08] whatever we need to do in terms of
[36:09] exchanging details and I also am one
[36:12] grateful for the fact that however I
[36:13] drew up this event and the way that it
[36:15] occurred it wasn't fatal it wasn't
[36:17] really dangerous serious injes nothing
[36:19] serious so I'm grateful for the fact
[36:20] that somehow life quotequote myself has
[36:23] got my back in a way that perhaps what
[36:25] was the learning there that you know I'm
[36:26] incredibly quick I'm super observant of
[36:29] my environment and so the way that I
[36:31] went through the light was maybe at 2 or
[36:33] 3 m an hour cuz I was just arriving at
[36:35] the line so I didn't go through a red
[36:37] light it was green but my ability to
[36:39] have gone so quickly when the guy was
[36:41] still just sort of trying to merge you
[36:44] know like maybe I can just take a rest
[36:45] bite maybe I can just slow down a little
[36:47] bit you know perhaps my ability to
[36:49] process the the situation that I'm in
[36:52] just it's great but I don't need to act
[36:54] so quickly cuz perhaps other people
[36:55] aren't so so aware of what's going on
[36:58] yeah so um yeah for me often times there
[37:01] is this opportunity to just recognize
[37:04] it's not such a hurry why happen yeah
[37:07] and to look at that right so the same in
[37:08] relationships going back to your
[37:10] question of should I or shouldn't I stay
[37:11] with somebody right it's like being
[37:14] responsible for whatever it is you're
[37:15] going through that would even elicit the
[37:17] question and to go deeper into well what
[37:19] am I up against like do I feel that I'm
[37:21] not Lov do I feel that I'm not in love
[37:23] like what what is the inquiry here so
[37:26] that's responsibility is that in ways
[37:28] that we don't comprehend just as a
[37:30] consideration not as a categoric fact
[37:32] that I'm declaring the everything you're
[37:35] experiencing at some level is by your
[37:38] own design I think we have two choices
[37:41] it's like either adopt that perspective
[37:44] which if you try it on it's kind of like
[37:47] well that actually doesn't feel too bad
[37:48] except for when I made bad decisions
[37:50] myself that I actually have Shame about
[37:52] Etc but there's a learning in that you
[37:54] have to be able to sit with that or you
[37:56] don't believe that's true and then
[37:58] you're a victim of every moment in your
[38:01] life except for the good ones you're
[38:02] okay taking responsibility loves to be
[38:04] right and be you know prideful about the
[38:06] things that went well yeah but doesn't
[38:09] want to it doesn't want to assume the
[38:11] guilt of you know [ __ ] up yeah no it
[38:13] is as I said it's an on or off switch
[38:15] and it takes a big mind and a big person
[38:17] to be willing to even consider that
[38:19] right because there are events in my
[38:20] life that I
[38:21] could absolutely never predict or in any
[38:24] way orchestrate within the realm of
[38:27] whatever's inside of my skull so to be
[38:29] able to assume at some level uh
[38:33] responsibility in terms as I said
[38:35] earlier of ownership that somehow even
[38:37] though the subjective experience for
[38:38] Peter CR is I don't want this this is
[38:40] [ __ ] like I didn't want to lose x
[38:41] amount of money on the stock market I
[38:42] didn't want this break up I didn't want
[38:44] this missed opportunity is to look at
[38:46] okay what is the quote unquote bigger
[38:47] opportunity for learning here where I'm
[38:50] somehow not aligned with the real
[38:53] essence of my complete self right where
[38:55] there's nothing missing in terms of the
[38:57] essence of who who I am where my value
[38:59] is innate it's not going anywhere my
[39:01] power is innate my security and my
[39:02] safety my love my freedom all of these
[39:05] what I assert of qualities of the soul
[39:08] that are like painfully absent as it
[39:13] relates to the ego's experience of
[39:14] itself which is why we look externally
[39:16] to try and fulfill those right like oh
[39:18] if I get someone to love me then I'll
[39:19] feel love if I get a good job in the
[39:21] corner office then I'll feel worthy or
[39:23] sense of security so the game that the
[39:25] ego is playing is it's constantly trying
[39:27] to you know uh accommodate its own
[39:30] feelings of inadequacy which when you
[39:32] really understand it's just a vicious
[39:33] cycle right where there's never enough
[39:35] like every informercial weight there's
[39:36] more appeals to that incessant sense of
[39:39] lack that is the this very structure of
[39:42] the ego so wherever we for prey to any
[39:45] kind of suffering a sense of missing a
[39:47] sense of pain or suffering it's always
[39:50] because we're associated misidentified
[39:52] with the identity that we think we are
[39:53] which is always based in some missing
[39:56] when in fact the opportunity is to
[39:57] realign with the essence of who we are
[39:59] where there's nothing missing so at all
[40:01] times there's nothing missing nothing
[40:03] missing it's just so peaceful it is it
[40:06] is peace itself it's like why wouldn't
[40:08] people want this instead we want to
[40:09] fight for our limitations and so I'm
[40:12] curious in the world that we live in
[40:14] today mhm and there seems to be um
[40:18] probably just as much ideological
[40:19] rigidity but it seems also maybe amplifi
[40:22] because we're more exposed to it through
[40:24] social media and maybe there's more mhm
[40:26] what do you think when you think of the
[40:27] the breakdown of the mind and the
[40:29] identity and the ego how do we free
[40:32] ourselves from the trap of that like
[40:35] when I think of I'm we're in the states
[40:37] right now yeah in the states there's a
[40:38] lot of like I'm a republican I'm a
[40:40] Democrat I'm Pro this I'm anti- that and
[40:44] those often are are archetypes that swim
[40:46] together yeah right like if you're one
[40:48] of the other things you must be all the
[40:50] others yeah well to do how navigate that
[40:52] and like free our mind in that space
[40:55] just by fundamentally recognizing none
[40:56] of it's true
[40:58] you know somebody was recently with
[41:00] what's been transpiring in between you
[41:02] know Israel and Palestine and obviously
[41:04] huge amounts of exacerbated forms of
[41:07] this hostility division right wrong all
[41:09] of it right right you know a few people
[41:11] have commented on why I haven't talked
[41:12] about it and because to me it becomes a
[41:14] moot conversation because if you're in
[41:15] the conversation then you have to quote
[41:17] unquote seem to be on one side or the
[41:19] other right there's no resolution there
[41:21] the only resolution of any of this
[41:22] animosity hostility Division and war is
[41:24] to reconcile and get Beyond both right
[41:27] right So within that context the super
[41:30] profound conversation that I didn't know
[41:31] this is where we'd be going but is
[41:33] nobody is a religion right it's a
[41:35] complete falsehood to say I'm Christian
[41:37] I'm Muslim I'm you know Buddhist it
[41:40] doesn't really matter that by virtue of
[41:42] the fact that you're associating with a
[41:43] label you have now completely separated
[41:46] yourself from the truth that you're not
[41:48] that you can by all means like make a
[41:50] choice hopefully conscious not because
[41:52] it's inherited because it's what your
[41:53] parents and your grandparents did which
[41:54] is how most people adopt a religion so
[41:56] even born Catholic not chosen it's not
[41:58] even chosen but if you want to subscribe
[42:00] to a life that is based in the tenants
[42:02] and principles of Christianity or Islam
[42:04] or whatever okay great there's a certain
[42:06] degree of power in that just like you
[42:08] choose to have a vegan diet or eat
[42:10] organic or go to your local farmers
[42:11] market like these are choices but the
[42:14] absolute insanity and the pure ignorance
[42:17] the pure ignorance and by that I mean
[42:18] the word of not knowing like it's a
[42:20] complete blind spot of thinking that you
[42:22] are a particular religion is what gives
[42:24] rise to then the differentiation
[42:26] extremism and the separation that then I
[42:29] have to be right in order in order to
[42:31] maintain my identity which as I said
[42:33] earlier is based in complete
[42:34] fictitiousness so I have to to sustain
[42:37] the ideology that I think I'm associated
[42:39] with as actually the me that I am for
[42:41] myself I have to fight because I'm
[42:43] protecting what I think is me but it's
[42:45] not it's a story so I have to fight
[42:47] harder because I'm much like the ego
[42:50] wants evidence of its existence this
[42:52] ideology or whatever identity we have
[42:55] said I am yeah which you say I am you're
[42:58] now you're [ __ ] you whatever after
[43:00] that yeah when you say I am fill in the
[43:02] blank right it's it's not
[43:05] a it's it's a falsehood regardless even
[43:08] if you say I'm amazing right which may
[43:09] itself give rise to a slightly better
[43:11] sense of self- worth and you might be
[43:12] more productive in the workplace you may
[43:14] get more you know value in the way that
[43:16] you uh generate Revenue but it's not
[43:19] truth it's obviously a much more nicer
[43:21] way to live than I am worthless you know
[43:23] which again is what a lot of people can
[43:24] associate with but the I am statement is
[43:26] sort of the root it's the the trunk of
[43:28] the tree upon which all the branches of
[43:29] identity start to extend and so until
[43:32] such time that you sort of trim trim the
[43:35] tree and recognize that I've become
[43:36] misidentified with all of these
[43:38] statements about myself many of which
[43:40] have been inherited or in fact that I
[43:41] overheard assumed to be my own still my
[43:44] choice even though it was my dad that
[43:46] said that or my mom or whatever um
[43:48] that's where Freedom you know to answer
[43:50] your question earlier of how do we get
[43:51] beyond that is just to really
[43:53] investigate the validity of these
[43:54] statements I have about myself and
[43:56] fundamentally recognize none of them are
[43:58] inherently true yeah I think it's
[44:01] something we all need to embrace yeah
[44:03] that's why I'm my Mastermind yeah right
[44:05] to be able to freeze some people to show
[44:07] them the lenses and you have a you're
[44:09] going you're writing a book too right
[44:10] now aren I am I've been writing it for
[44:11] about 15 years so I'm I'm chugging along
[44:15] at Masterpiece in the making yeah my uh
[44:18] yes my tomb that will be my legacy to
[44:21] planet Earth to shift the course of
[44:23] humanity um yes it's it's coming along
[44:25] though and your Mastermind how how I've
[44:27] done your Mastermind before how many
[44:29] weeks is it now has it CH now it's uh no
[44:31] it's still 12 it's 3 months uh so we
[44:33] meet every two weeks uh for basically
[44:36] almost a full day it's four hours it's
[44:37] over 24 hours of content so yeah I know
[44:40] and you do a lot of live coaching in
[44:42] that
[44:43] yes shattering it's so good it's so fun
[44:46] it's it's so fun because it's like the
[44:48] pieces that people get to put together
[44:50] and I really enjoy that aspect of my
[44:51] work too is like people have things just
[44:54] click and it's like yeah ah uh yeah yeah
[44:58] you know man I've been my own resistance
[45:01] this whole time and that's where the
[45:02] compassion component comes in right so
[45:05] again I love as you know well I love to
[45:07] use quotes and I say you can't be held
[45:09] accountable for that which you're
[45:10] oblivious to and there's so much shaming
[45:13] and you know guilting that people do
[45:15] like you should have done this or you
[45:17] shouldn't have done that and it's like
[45:18] well you're making choices within the
[45:20] realm of as I said early your own
[45:22] awareness and what I'm revealing are
[45:23] those subconscious constraints that
[45:25] people are themselves ignorant to they
[45:28] don't know why they have the thoughts of
[45:30] suicidal adiation or the fact that no
[45:32] one's ever going to see them or want to
[45:34] date them or they're not going to get a
[45:36] good job or whatever they're thinking on
[45:38] a conscious level is sort of the bubbles
[45:40] that they arise from when these deeper
[45:42] subconscious constraints that people
[45:44] can't see these blind spots so until you
[45:46] reveal those the narratives that we're
[45:48] so associated with that give us our woe
[45:50] that give us our feelings of heaviness
[45:52] doubt anxiety depression um that they're
[45:55] they're secondary and tertiary right
[45:57] you've got to get to who are you at the
[45:59] deepest level the I'm not enough the I'm
[46:01] not loved I'm not safe and really as
[46:03] best as we can to marry that to the
[46:05] events that transpired in our childhood
[46:07] to see where did that first happen you
[46:08] know that you were the younger sibling
[46:11] where the older sibling was the athlete
[46:12] the academic who got all the praise the
[46:14] accolades who got all the attention that
[46:16] gave rise to your narrative that I'm I'm
[46:19] not as special and then that manifests
[46:21] in the sort of low totem pole position
[46:24] in the workplace where you don't feel
[46:25] seen you don't feel acknowledged you
[46:26] don't feel valued a relationship where
[46:28] you're perhaps abused or getting
[46:30] intermittent reinforcement where you're
[46:31] not really you know appreciated um but
[46:35] it's all based on the fact that at the
[46:36] deepest level the foundation of who you
[46:38] are for yourself is well I don't matter
[46:42] so then of course that will give rise to
[46:43] the thoughts feelings behaviors and
[46:45] consequently results that people have so
[46:47] when you remove that see that the I
[46:48] don't matter in this case it's not a
[46:50] truth it's just been there usually for
[46:52] decades so it's very convincing but it's
[46:54] not a fundamental truth to see what
[46:57] happens when somebody sees that they've
[46:59] been living in a prison of their own
[47:00] creation through no fold of their own
[47:02] it's usually adopted by a child who has
[47:04] got no
[47:05] awareness is not who you are and then to
[47:08] ask the question who could you be in the
[47:10] absence of that
[47:12] limitation everything the lights come on
[47:15] the joy the tears yeah and with it
[47:18] literally imagine a door like a dam you
[47:20] know that just breaks open and the flood
[47:22] lights not the flood lights but the
[47:24] flooding of Vitality possibility love
[47:28] it all just comes rushing in it's it's
[47:31] it's there's nothing more gratifying for
[47:33] me in terms of being able to show
[47:34] somebody a world that they were
[47:36] previously oblivious to it's wild to me
[47:38] too how simple it is but we want it to
[47:41] be more complex yeah like we want it to
[47:43] be like okay but can you tell me all the
[47:45] other things as well as that simple
[47:48] shift in my mindset and you're like
[47:49] that's it actually yeah simple and yet
[47:52] so profoundly complex and there's always
[47:54] the question of well how do I do this
[47:55] right but the doing is from the
[47:56] perspective of the ego that still hasn't
[47:58] seen that it's not who you are you know
[48:01] I often use the example of yeah the do
[48:03] like well how like the how do I do this
[48:05] so because we're so programmed the
[48:06] action is you as opposed to you or you
[48:09] well the action is the means by which
[48:10] we're going to get what we think we need
[48:12] but the we that we think we need
[48:13] something is the limitation right so
[48:15] it's in the absence of that limitation
[48:16] at which point the doing becomes moot
[48:18] it's it's it's reconciled it's
[48:20] meaningless but you know to give a good
[48:22] example that can help people see like
[48:24] 2,000 plus years ago whatever when we
[48:27] previously thought the world was flat
[48:28] and I guess there's still an argument
[48:30] for it and so now I don't [ __ ] know
[48:31] anymore but but let's just assume that
[48:33] it is I walked off the end of it so I'm
[48:35] fine right yeah well that was the fear
[48:37] right so within that context of the
[48:38] World is Flat what is the associated
[48:40] fear that rises simultaneously it's
[48:42] commensurate with that perspective is
[48:44] that I could fall off the edge right so
[48:46] that's the fear so if you had you know
[48:47] an Elon Musk of the day he would have
[48:49] made billions because he would have
[48:50] created a bracelet that had a laser that
[48:52] would be able to predict how far you are
[48:54] from The Horizon and everyone would have
[48:56] bought it because then they could at
[48:57] ease knowing that well this thing will
[48:59] beep if I get too close right what
[49:02] happens is again assuming that in fact
[49:04] the world is a globe and for whatever
[49:05] reasons it's gravity or density whatever
[49:07] your argument is try and fall off like
[49:09] you know if you're an NBA athlete you
[49:11] get three or four feet off the ground
[49:12] but you're still coming back like most
[49:13] of my friends 6 in it's really not that
[49:15] impressive like I'd be impress if you
[49:17] could fall off right so then you realize
[49:19] that in the absence of the context of
[49:21] the World is Flat the fear itself
[49:23] dissolves so there's no more how cuz you
[49:25] step into a different existence
[49:28] now it's not possible and now it's not
[49:29] living in your residual unconscious mind
[49:31] and now you can be free to jump up and
[49:34] down and fall over and do whatever you
[49:36] want to edges so likewise when somebody
[49:38] is struggling a relationship or they're
[49:39] not making enough money and then like
[49:41] how do I make more money that question
[49:43] arises from in the inherent constraint
[49:45] that somehow there's a value proposition
[49:47] that's missing that I'm not worthy
[49:49] wherever that originated from because
[49:50] the sibling was brilliant or smarter or
[49:52] a better athlete that sort of
[49:54] contributed to that feeling of my
[49:56] worthlessness well the how to make money
[49:58] is being generated from that perspective
[50:00] of limitation in the first place so it's
[50:01] a vicious cycle you could be given all
[50:03] the best tips in the world you could
[50:04] read all the books about money but if
[50:06] your very fundamental view of yourself
[50:08] is based in some value lack proposition
[50:11] then you're you're not going anywhere
[50:12] until you realize oh there's nothing not
[50:14] valuable about me it has nothing to do
[50:17] with the money nothing so you're saying
[50:19] the you might get some money but you'll
[50:21] keep perpetuating that wound because you
[50:24] still have to learn that the money will
[50:26] never give you the value that you think
[50:27] is associated with the value of your
[50:29] words your work your Etc exactly because
[50:31] all that person is trying to do is
[50:33] actually mitigate overcome and reconcile
[50:35] the very deep-seated belief of who they
[50:37] are which is I'm not fundamentally
[50:38] valuable which is why you know as cliche
[50:41] as it is celebrities with millions of
[50:43] fans millions of dollars can still un up
[50:45] in rehab because they haven't actually
[50:47] overcome the very underlying thorn in
[50:50] their side of their own identity that
[50:52] was probably the driving force of their
[50:53] need for attention for fame yeah right
[50:56] so it's only in the absence of the
[50:58] constraint that is driving the question
[50:59] and the behavior of like this
[51:01] desperation it's a form of addiction
[51:02] right like my definition for addiction
[51:04] is you can never get enough of something
[51:05] that almost
[51:07] works right so if I'm in the world of
[51:09] insufficiency inadequacy and scarcity
[51:11] then whatever I feel is always going to
[51:13] be driven by that so it doesn't matter
[51:15] what I do or what I actually gone or get
[51:18] I'm still in the world my foot is still
[51:19] nailed to the floor of some sort of
[51:21] limitation which is why I'll make a
[51:23] million oh now I need to make three I
[51:24] need to make 10 I need to whatever it is
[51:26] that is is the as seeming the the the
[51:30] the Cure All for my feeling of the
[51:32] destination when you'll finally get it
[51:33] and your worth will be validated yeah
[51:36] how do they breathe into how do they I
[51:38] love it I know a guy who knows a guy
[51:40] who'd like to know my cousin's friend my
[51:44] brother's brother is super curious how
[51:47] would one yeah it is a revelatory
[51:50] process and that's not easy you need
[51:52] reflection you need counsel you need
[51:54] somebody who can listen to your seeming
[51:57] like issues problems whatever we call
[51:59] them in life which are really
[52:00] symptomatic of the deeper subconscious
[52:02] constraints from which those arise and
[52:04] then to be able to see these primary
[52:06] prisons so you need to buy my book that
[52:09] I haven't
[52:09] [Music]
[52:11] written so really it's pre-ordered it in
[52:14] the universe just it's not available on
[52:15] Amazon yet talk about responsibility the
[52:18] fact that the Universe in the world
[52:19] doesn't work and every human being has a
[52:20] problem is my responsibility because I
[52:22] haven't got my book out yet yeah
[52:25] exactly you get your book out then I can
[52:27] solve this exactly then the underlying
[52:31] uh limiters that people are oblivious to
[52:33] these prisons these Primal constraints
[52:36] will all be delineated and then you can
[52:38] pick which one you have which you have
[52:39] all of them by the way but we
[52:40] predominate in some and go yeah oh okay
[52:43] so that oh my God I can see that I think
[52:44] I'm not enough I'm not safe I'm not love
[52:46] whatever they're not it's always a
[52:47] negation is what I talk about meaning
[52:49] I'm not something right so it's a
[52:51] pushing against the essence of who I am
[52:53] which is complete and full but in
[52:55] linguistics and narrative not something
[52:57] it's that not which is the resistance
[52:59] which creates the space or the perceived
[53:01] space something else to fill yeah or
[53:03] that there's something missing you never
[53:05] get enough of something that almost
[53:07] works right it's such that space that
[53:09] requires it to almost fill it but it's
[53:11] not the acknowledgement and embodying of
[53:15] the fact that there's nothing missing no
[53:17] but if you're still standing in the
[53:18] negation if you're still standing in the
[53:20] limitation or the constraint then it
[53:21] doesn't matter what you get externally
[53:23] have a much Fame attention money lovers
[53:26] houses Jets whatever it is the very
[53:29] mechanism that drove the behavior to try
[53:31] and get those things is itself the very
[53:33] root of the suffering it's not to be
[53:36] mitigated it's the action that
[53:37] reinforces the identity yeah what or the
[53:40] intention behind the action yeah yeah
[53:43] yeah that doesn't mean you can't create
[53:44] and want and make money it's that if
[53:46] it's sourced from this place I'm going
[53:47] to do this to get something yes I
[53:49] interviewed Stephen pressfield earlier
[53:51] and he has this uh part of his book The
[53:54] War of art where he talks about how like
[53:57] the he quotes another guy named Robert
[53:59] mcke and it's about how the hack tries
[54:03] to predict what his audience wants and
[54:05] then in doing that you know sells out
[54:08] his own creativity okay and I was
[54:10] thinking about when the co stuff was
[54:12] kind of at the height and you and I had
[54:14] a conversation and I said to you because
[54:16] you and I were relatively outspoken
[54:18] about a lot of it yeah and I said to you
[54:21] I'm really worried to like I don't know
[54:23] how to have this conversation and not be
[54:25] worried to like lose my livelihood or
[54:27] because we did see the very real
[54:29] censorship of honest true truthful
[54:32] information now validated by foas yeah
[54:35] um and I remember you said to me well
[54:37] that's under the pre disposition or the
[54:40] predilection that you're not meant for
[54:43] something greater from the expression of
[54:46] how you truly feel exact like I think
[54:47] that it's a path to less yeah yeah well
[54:50] the fear that again going back to what I
[54:52] said one of the Primal prisons as it
[54:53] relates to the future is that you're not
[54:54] going to be okay so if you had a voice
[54:57] that the perceived outcome was going to
[54:58] be detrimental or not good right and
[55:01] that's where again I spoke to the the
[55:03] sort of synonyms of excitement and fear
[55:06] being two sides of the same coin even
[55:08] though one sort of seems to have this
[55:09] like I'm the benefactor of this great
[55:12] future that's going to transpire which
[55:13] is excitement thing yeah and then fear
[55:15] is well no it's a future that but
[55:17] they're both based in this fictitious
[55:18] perception of something that hasn't
[55:20] happened yet we just have like this
[55:21] beneficial view of a future excitement
[55:23] or we have this sort of Doomsday kind of
[55:26] view of a future future that hasn't
[55:27] happened fear so in that case when we
[55:29] had that conversation and I remember it
[55:31] it's really revealing the you that
[55:32] things you're not going to be okay yeah
[55:35] and that was the limitation regardless
[55:36] of how it's perceived in the marketplace
[55:38] or what people do you're canceled you're
[55:39] not you're revered you're admired you're
[55:42] inspiring millions of people it it
[55:44] doesn't it's all irrelevant out there is
[55:46] irrelevant it's just to what degree can
[55:48] Mark transcend the idea that he's not
[55:50] going to be okay which is really the
[55:52] ultimate Embrace of complete trust and
[55:54] the transcending of that for me felt
[55:56] like just keep going yeah like that's
[55:59] the trust trust what's trying to move
[56:00] through trust what's trying and I was
[56:02] living a lot and still continue to live
[56:04] a lot of that exploration out loud where
[56:07] I noticed the ego where I stepped out of
[56:10] that where I created two accounts that
[56:12] came into one again you know that is
[56:15] that trauma split you know well ego Soul
[56:18] right talk about how like beautifully
[56:20] poetic that is the idea of there's the
[56:22] real me and then there's this facade me
[56:23] I me business me the hack and Steven
[56:25] pressfield's work that is called theck
[56:28] and I was like [ __ ] it was authentic and
[56:30] it was real and it was birthed on that
[56:32] and then I I liked what came with that
[56:35] and then I step into this other thing I
[56:36] don't really like what comes with this
[56:38] one so I'll keep both but they were the
[56:41] same you know that's the irony of it all
[56:42] is is like feeling the Liberation
[56:45] through authenticity and then the
[56:46] celebration of the authenticity then the
[56:48] ego's like this is great and so it comes
[56:52] back online more than it was because it
[56:54] had to die to create create the love
[56:56] yeah and then now it's actually like
[56:58] this is sweet we just found another path
[56:59] you're not a pharmaceutical rep you're a
[57:01] love rep great y oh well if you talk
[57:03] about love you can't also talk about
[57:05] manipulation or control or which is
[57:07] obviously often accompanying quote
[57:09] unquote relationship yeah yeah and if
[57:12] you really feel into it which is what's
[57:14] going to help people certainly who are
[57:15] listening and if they may have their own
[57:16] version of a masquerade the split
[57:18] account you know metaphorically
[57:20] literally trying to find their voice
[57:21] conversations with friends that are
[57:23] different than conversations online
[57:24] beliefs about all these ideologies
[57:27] what they say how many people in the
[57:29] world are quiet right now I mean
[57:31] majority and not necessar as it relates
[57:33] to you know the the whatever is
[57:36] occurring in politics or whatever on the
[57:38] bigger scheme of current affairs but in
[57:40] their own microcosm of their
[57:43] relationship not telling the truth that
[57:44] they miss their partner they feel
[57:46] disconnected they yeah you know so what
[57:49] to go back to what I was pointing to
[57:50] what is the primary energy behind that
[57:52] if people really feel into it yourself
[57:54] included you know your generosity and
[57:56] always being vulnerable and honest is
[57:58] fear yeah yeah 100% that's all it is
[58:01] yeah there's fear about a future that
[58:03] doesn't actually exist and in this case
[58:05] also fear for your own like safety your
[58:07] own Acceptance in the marketplace my
[58:10] family like I'm the provider yeah fear
[58:12] for you know like realistic fears but
[58:16] it's also the trust that something
[58:18] greater isn't coming from that that I'm
[58:20] not going to be okay not going to be
[58:21] okay yeah and in the absence of that
[58:24] again which is my work it's what I call
[58:25] a double negation it's like that I'm not
[58:27] not going to be okay it's I can't
[58:29] declare that you're going to be okay we
[58:30] don't know what's going to happen as I
[58:31] said earlier we're all clueless all of a
[58:33] sudden I'm in prison I'm like P you
[58:35] [ __ ] liar where's your book I told
[58:38] you I wasn't going to be okay I'm like
[58:39] yeah you got to be right about your own
[58:40] person yourself you're powerful that's
[58:43] how powerful you are go way to go yeah
[58:45] but in the absence of that what happens
[58:47] is people immediately experience that
[58:48] sense of Freedom which within that
[58:51] container is where one has a voice right
[58:54] regardless of the outcome because we're
[58:55] not looking okay it's just it's just the
[58:59] trust it's such it's the way the
[59:00] universe works anyways so like get on
[59:03] board or don't yeah you know I see that
[59:05] I say that with the acknowledgement that
[59:08] it is always feeling like a leap into
[59:10] the abyss of of trust that you are okay
[59:13] and every time I've leapt off a cliff
[59:15] that I was like [ __ ] it okay yeah the
[59:18] universe has caught me and not just
[59:20] caught me been
[59:22] like yeah you know and that takes a lot
[59:25] that's going back to how we started this
[59:26] conversation right is to uh as I've
[59:29] often jokingly said I'm a trust fun baby
[59:31] you know even though I was orphaned by
[59:32] the age of 17 not left one penny um just
[59:35] by virtue of whatever weird
[59:37] dysfunctional Dynamics with a stepmom
[59:38] that was in the picture and took
[59:39] everything but I trust in the universe
[59:44] right you're a dress phone baby that's
[59:46] yeah so it's it's and that even you know
[59:49] the Peter Crone subjective eye that I
[59:52] sometimes Mis associate with can still
[59:54] be scared and worried and how's this
[59:56] going to work out and that's where we
[59:57] make room for compassion right I just
[1:00:00] think my ability sort of my in Gulf they
[1:00:02] call it rebound stats like you know they
[1:00:04] make a bogey how quickly can they come
[1:00:05] back to you know make a birdie or a par
[1:00:08] so for me even though I can slip into
[1:00:10] that for which my humanity is a big part
[1:00:12] of the thing that I've learned to
[1:00:13] embrace it's okay to be scared it's okay
[1:00:16] to be hurt it's okay to you know not
[1:00:18] know what's going to happen and have
[1:00:20] potentially a worst case scenario float
[1:00:22] through your head for a minute but the
[1:00:24] ability to just sort of C and go oh hang
[1:00:27] on a minute I don't
[1:00:30] know I've seen you live this I've seen
[1:00:32] you live this that you are quick to come
[1:00:36] back to the principles and the practices
[1:00:38] of how you know the universe to work
[1:00:41] yeah which I I've always appreciated it
[1:00:43] in our friendship that you remind me and
[1:00:44] it it allows me to rebound and get some
[1:00:47] birdies yeah and then get a double bar
[1:00:50] and then hit it out of bounds yeah and
[1:00:53] and and just that's why I have more
[1:00:55] balls in my back right I don't go look
[1:00:57] for it like let's go go brother I I love
[1:01:01] chatting with you I appreciate you so
[1:01:02] much same yeah it's reallyy beautiful I
[1:01:05] want everyone to experience the medicine
[1:01:07] that is you so in light of that yes um
[1:01:11] where can people get more of you work
[1:01:12] and they find out about your Mastermind
[1:01:14] um peter.com for the website and all
[1:01:17] things www and then just Peter Crone is
[1:01:20] Instagram um it's all just basically my
[1:01:23] name so and your Mastermind is on your
[1:01:25] website yes so if for some reason when
[1:01:27] this comes out people have missed the
[1:01:29] current Mastermind then you can always
[1:01:30] just join the wait list which is equally
[1:01:32] on the website under the tag of
[1:01:33] Mastermind I appreciate you brother
[1:01:35] thanks for coming on you too my friend
[1:01:37] much love
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