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[0:00] - Hi everyone, welcome
to The Gathering Room.
[0:03] Our topic for the day is
How To Heal Your Heart.
[0:07] I've been doing a few
coaching sessions lately,
[0:10] which I don't usually
do anymore, there's not,
[0:13] there's too much demand, frankly.
[0:14] So I train coaches, then
my coaches coach people.
[0:16] And that way there's more people, more co,
[0:19] more coaches to serve the demand.
[0:21] But I've done a few sessions lately here
[0:24] and there and I just
love it, I just love it.
[0:26] It's so much fun.
[0:28] And I realized that I used to
think that I could help people
[0:31] ha as if, I can't help anybody,
[0:35] I can't heal anybody's
broken heart anymore,
[0:38] that I can heal a broken bone.
[0:40] When there's a broken bone.
[0:42] The best anyone can do is put it
[0:44] in position and let it heal itself.
[0:46] And that is the only thing
that I've ever actually done
[0:49] for anyone as a coach,
[0:50] is try to hold them in
position where they're sort
[0:53] of aligned with themselves
the way a bone is.
[0:55] And then everything heals itself.
[0:57] Your heart can heal itself and it does.
[1:00] And it will no matter how deep your sorrow
[1:03] that the heart can heal itself.
[1:06] You just have to know how
to put it into alignment.
[1:08] And I was thinking about
this cause I was talking
[1:10] to this lovely man today and
he was like healing himself.
[1:15] You know who I, I'm
talking about if it's you?
[1:19] Anyway, it was such a moving
thing to see how much power
[1:23] and efficacy was available
to him for self-healing.
[1:30] And I thought, wow, we can all do this.
[1:32] And we all, we don't do it enough.
[1:36] We're sort of convinced that
something outside ourselves
[1:38] is going to help us, or that
if we can just destroy a part
[1:41] of ourselves that's
bothering us will be okay.
[1:44] And the opposite is actually the case.
[1:46] You only heal by going inward
and you only heal by including
[1:50] all the parts that are broken,
so to align with your heart,
[1:56] if your heart is broken
[1:57] at all, if you have a small heartbreak,
[2:00] if you have a massive
heartbreak, either way,
[2:03] just tune into it for
a second, don't worry,
[2:06] we're not going to stay here, but find
[2:08] the broken, the heartsick part, yeah.
[2:11] So the way to align it,
[2:13] to allow it to heal itself
like a bone healing itself,
[2:17] is to come into what I call integrity.
[2:18] To be completely aligned
with what is truest
[2:21] for us at the deepest level,
and to be just one thing.
[2:25] Not a whole bunch of things
split, but one thing united,
[2:29] okay, so I wrote this
book The Way of Integrity.
[2:31] And people said to me, many people said
[2:34] to me, here's the thing,
[2:35] I feel like I'm living
almost in integrity,
[2:38] but there's a part of me
like the part that, you know,
[2:41] wants to run away and not take
care of my responsibilities
[2:44] or the part of me that
wants to sleep all day.
[2:47] Or the part of me that wants
to yell at other drivers
[2:50] and I just can't get rid of it.
[2:53] Well, right away I know
[2:54] that they can't be in alignment
because the aligned part
[2:58] of us, the part that
is resonates as truest
[3:01] for us, never wants to get
rid of any part of ourselves.
[3:05] It is unconditionally loving
[3:07] of everything about you, your
nastiest, worst bits of self.
[3:12] It loves them all.
[3:14] So when I say bringing them
[3:15] into one thing, I don't
mean excluding anything.
[3:19] I mean bringing in all
the parts, and they,
[3:22] some of them may violently
disagree with one another.
[3:26] The part of you that
wants to sleep all day,
[3:29] there may be another part that
goes, what is wrong with you?
[3:31] You've got to get up.
[3:33] Walt Whitman wrote, do I
contradict myself, very well,
[3:38] then I contradict myself, I am
large, I contain multitudes.
[3:43] All of us are large,
[3:43] we all contain multitudes and
new parts of self are forming
[3:47] all the time.
[3:49] So I'm very much enamored
of parts psychology
[3:53] a way of looking at the human
mind that sees all these
[3:56] different aspects of the self
[3:57] as different, wholly different people,
[3:59] but whose goal it is to
bring the whole crowd
[4:01] in together so that they can be healed
[4:03] by the deepest self, which
I'll talk about in a second.
[4:07] But just looking at all the
different parts of self.
[4:12] When I say to someone,
how are you feeling?
[4:15] I'll be like, oh, I'm so depressed.
[4:17] I'm really miserable.
[4:18] And then I'll talk to them a
week later and they'll say,
[4:21] you know, I was, I, I've
really had a good week.
[4:24] And I'm like, wait, wait.
[4:25] My head is spinning.
[4:26] You said you were so depressed
and now you said you've had a
[4:28] good week, it's even more
common to have people go, oh,
[4:31] I feel great now, last week that was whew.
[4:33] But I was horrible, but
I'm great this week.
[4:36] The next week when I used
to see people weekly,
[4:38] they would come back, oh
yeah, I'm doing a lot better.
[4:41] I mean, last week was horrible.
[4:43] They always said last week was horrible,
[4:45] but this week's okay.
[4:46] And then they would contradict
themselves and it was
[4:49] because they were trying
to describe themselves when
[4:52] in fact as one thing, when in
fact they were many things.
[4:55] They contained multitudes.
[4:57] I've been doing a lot of painting lately.
[4:59] And one of the things about painting
[5:01] is that you combine
different colors to create,
[5:05] you create different colors
by combining the ones you've
[5:08] got, so I'm sure you
know, if you combine red
[5:11] and blue, you get purple, if
you combine blue and yellow,
[5:14] you get green, red and
yellow, make orange and so on.
[5:18] And if you put too many parts together,
[5:20] it looks really muddy.
[5:21] And one of the things that
you do as an artist is you try
[5:24] to break out the pure tones.
[5:26] You try to find the pure tones
and separate them a little
[5:28] so they're not all mushed together.
[5:30] And in part, psychology,
[5:32] at least internal family systems therapy,
[5:35] which I love, there's a
step called unblending.
[5:40] And it's when you look at all
the colors of yourself and you
[5:44] pull out the pure tones and
you just look specifically
[5:47] at the, what is the clearest,
purest note, color note,
[5:51] mood note that you can find,
[5:53] so for example, I just asked you
[5:56] find the heartsick part of yourself.
[5:59] So it might be heartsick
[6:01] because the state of the
world is so depressing.
[6:04] It might be heartsick because you're
[6:06] in love with someone who
doesn't love you back.
[6:09] It might be heartsick because
you're raising five children
[6:14] and you have no time for yourself.
[6:15] There are a lot of
reasons to be heartsick,
[6:18] but it's just going to
feel negative in some way.
[6:21] So I want you to find the most
heartsick part of yourself
[6:23] and then unblend it from
the muddy mess that you get
[6:28] in your mind when you mush
all yourselves together.
[6:31] This weirdly enough,
[6:32] separating in this way is
a way of creating unity
[6:35] in a painting, if you can get pure tones
[6:38] and combine, then you have harmony.
[6:40] But if you mix too many
pure tones together,
[6:42] you get this muddy consistency
[6:44] that's not, it's just not beautiful.
[6:47] So by separating the pure tones,
[6:50] we get something that we can
recombine in a beautiful way
[6:55] instead of just mush together.
[6:57] So whatever your heart's
at part is, have it sit,
[7:00] have it step outside you
and sit down facing you
[7:04] and be anything it wants to
be, but it is purely heartsick.
[7:08] That is what it is.
[7:10] And have it tell you why
it's not feeling good.
[7:16] Like tell you how it feels.
[7:18] Let it tell you what it doesn't
like, what it wishes it had,
[7:21] that it doesn't, and just
instead of reacting against it,
[7:26] I wish I could get rid of
you, then I'd be happy.
[7:29] Your job is to listen.
[7:31] Yeah, so you're going to
be your own heart healer.
[7:35] And the heart heals
when it is listened to,
[7:38] when it is understood.
[7:41] So listen, you can sometimes write it out,
[7:45] this is why I'm unhappy.
[7:46] And now we come to the part
[7:48] that is challenging for some people.
[7:52] The gentleman I was talking to today did
[7:54] such a wonderful job of it
that I really wanted to,
[7:58] it made me excited to
share it with you guys.
[8:01] Find the part of yourself
[8:03] that is pure unconditional acceptance.
[8:06] Okay, of everything actually.
[8:09] So he had a religious framework,
[8:13] so he, but a lot of people
have religious frameworks
[8:15] and they're not able to
find the loving part.
[8:17] They actually can be less
loving because of religious
[8:20] fundamentalism or whatever,
but this guy just was,
[8:24] God is love to him, so find
the part of you that is love.
[8:28] And here's the thing,
love takes many forms.
[8:32] Some of us associate the word
love with erotic fixation
[8:35] or feeling sorry for someone
or desiring something
[8:38] about them and real love,
there's no wanting in it.
[8:43] There's no pain in it, there's
no possessiveness in it.
[8:47] It is just, it is calm, it is free,
[8:53] it is unconditional, it is unmoved,
[8:56] weirdly enough because you
know, we talk about being moved
[8:59] as being loving, but
love never moves, really.
[9:03] It is it is we who go into
love when we are moved.
[9:07] But love is always waiting there
A steady state, it is like,
[9:11] it's like space, it's everywhere.
[9:13] So your essence, I believe
is this unconditional love.
[9:18] If you can't find a place
[9:19] that feels loving, find
a place that feels calm.
[9:23] Peace is a really significant
aspect of true love.
[9:29] And you won't find it in
things like erotic fixation
[9:32] or neediness or over attachment.
[9:34] There's no peace in something
that is just those things.
[9:38] Yeah.
[9:41] So find the part of you
that's most peaceful
[9:43] and there's your heartsick
part right in front
[9:45] of you and it's been telling
you why it's heartsick.
[9:50] And you don't have to do anything.
[9:52] Just observe it and see
if you can find compassion
[9:56] and understanding for its point of view.
[9:58] And it could be saying
stuff that sounds so selfish
[10:01] to a part of your mind,
or it sounds so, you know,
[10:05] it sounds so petty or small or
it's upset about things that
[10:09] you think are embarrassing or
whatever, it doesn't matter.
[10:13] The part of you that is pure
calm accepts it all equally.
[10:18] It all belongs.
[10:20] So it says, come in, come in.
[10:22] And then just think what
In fact, don't think,
[10:27] feel what the calmest part
of your psyche is saying
[10:34] to the most heartsick part of your psyche.
[10:39] So in the case of the guy I was talking
[10:41] to today, it was really simple.
[10:45] I'm with you, you're not
alone, you've never been alone.
[10:50] I'm here to help.
[10:52] You've always been led by me
and I will always lead you.
[10:57] Now if you can't find that,
[10:58] you can just say the words
like that, I am here for you.
[11:01] And if you do it, if you
address the heartsick part
[11:04] of you as an other, just
saying the words, I'm with you.
[11:09] I'm here for you, I've
always been here for you,
[11:11] might move you into the heart healer,
[11:15] into the essence of you.
[11:17] So you can actually use the heartbreak
[11:19] and then the sort of script
of unconditional love.
[11:23] I've always been here for
you, I'm going to be here
[11:25] for you, for you, I've always guided you.
[11:27] I always will, as you say the words,
[11:31] you can sometimes shift into
the essence into alignment.
[11:36] Now the two of you,
[11:37] the heart sick and the heart
healer are aligned like a two
[11:40] parts of a broken bone.
[11:42] And you just wrap that
the way you'd put a cast
[11:45] on a broken limb, once
the bone is aligned,
[11:48] you just wrap it up and let it be still.
[11:50] When I had my famous foot surgery,
[11:52] which I've mentioned I don't
know, 8,000 times to you guys,
[11:56] the surgeon sawed up one
of the bones of my foot,
[11:59] which were deformed and then
put them in a different order
[12:02] and pinned them in.
[12:03] And then I had to keep my foot wrapped
[12:06] and still and above my
head for eight weeks.
[12:09] Try keeping your foot above
your head for eight weeks.
[12:12] Quite an experience like
a meditation retreat.
[12:16] And sure enough,
[12:17] it grew a little bridge of bone
all by his like the miracle.
[12:21] All he could do was saw it
in two and pin it together
[12:24] and hope and it doesn't always work.
[12:26] And when it worked, it was a miracle.
[12:28] It was a healing miracle.
[12:30] And when I've aligned my
heart sick part with my heart
[12:34] healer part, it's always
grown a little bridge,
[12:37] a little new strong bridge of wholeness.
[12:41] But you have to be still
with it for a while.
[12:44] You have to take the
time for the heart sick
[12:46] to express itself and the heart full,
[12:49] the heart essence to
connect and wrap itself
[12:53] around that wound, and
then you let them be still.
[12:57] So if you meditate or
you have time in the car
[12:59] or whatever, be still with the
alignment of the heart sick
[13:03] and the heart healer and
they'll start to grow stronger.
[13:09] And the more time you can
spend in spill in stillness
[13:12] with those two aligned, the
faster your heart will heal.
[13:16] It's a good trick.
[13:18] It works, it actually works.
[13:20] So let's go to some questions here.
[13:23] Hang on.
[13:25] We have some questions coming in,
[13:27] Anne says, how do I deal
[13:28] with the heartbreak of total
rejection of a loved one?
[13:34] You find the part of you that
is really heartsick about it.
[13:38] You can picture that part of you.
[13:39] It might not look like
exactly like you look now.
[13:42] It might have a different hair
color or be a different age,
[13:45] or it might be a an animal.
[13:47] A lot of my different parts
take the forms of animals
[13:49] when I try to imagine them
and just listen to it,
[13:52] tell you how heartbroken it is
and how devastating it is to
[13:56] love someone and not be loved
back and be totally rejected
[14:02] and then start addressing
the heartsick one.
[14:07] What would it say to you, see,
I can't do that for you Anne.
[14:10] You have to like move into the space.
[14:13] So if you can find compassion for
[14:14] the one who is totally rejected,
I suspect when I do that,
[14:19] and I have been totally rejected
by people I loved, oh yes,
[14:23] I have been.
[14:26] And it's like the heart healer says,
[14:29] I could never reject
you, and somehow I know.
[14:32] I mean Richard Schwartz,
[14:34] who created Internal Family
Systems therapy talks about
[14:37] how this heart healer part, he
calls it the self capital S.
[14:41] And he says, the interesting
thing about it is
[14:43] when the client, when his
clients get to that, he'll say,
[14:46] so what part of you is that,
[14:48] and they say, this isn't
a part, this is who I am.
[14:51] This is the center, it's not just a part,
[14:53] but it holds all the other
parts, and he says, furthermore,
[14:58] it's the same in all people.
[15:00] It exists in all people, and
it's the same in all people.
[15:03] So when I go to, okay,
[15:04] the people who've rejected
me and I have been rejected,
[15:07] I'm like, well, I don't reject you.
[15:09] And the part of them that is
me doesn't reject you either.
[15:12] That's not even possible.
[15:14] So weirdly,
[15:15] even though those people
think they're rejecting me,
[15:18] I don't feel rejected because
I'm so in touch with my own
[15:22] heart healer that I can't
help but feel their heart
[15:25] healers as well.
[15:26] And I really believe that all
of us are totally accepted
[15:29] by the loving being at the
center of every person.
[15:32] Yeah, so that's, thank you Anne.
[15:35] I just felt really healed
[15:36] by that and I can only
hope it works for you.
[15:40] Alan says,
[15:41] can separating out our
grief into different parts,
[15:43] help to heal it, yeah,
this is the whole thing.
[15:46] And I love the word unending
that they use in ifs 'cause it,
[15:50] because I do visual art, it's,
it makes so much sense to me.
[15:54] Like the painting behind me right here,
[15:56] I don't know if you
can see it on Facebook,
[15:59] it's the cover of the book I
wrote called Diana Herself.
[16:03] And I didn't mix any
color for that painting.
[16:10] I just would paint like a bright, clear,
[16:14] transparent yellow and then wait for that
[16:16] to dry and then paint red
over that and then paint blue
[16:19] over that kind of the way
they do color photography,
[16:22] and because of that, it has
a glowy look, I think I liked
[16:26] the glowy look, and it comes
from the fact that I was
[16:29] using separated colors
instead of blended colors.
[16:32] There's an unblending that
creates clarity and transparency.
[16:36] And I love the metaphor
[16:38] for painting because it works
so well for me in my life,
[16:43] so yes, separating the
parts out is like getting
[16:45] the clarity and purity of each part.
[16:48] And then they combine in this way
[16:49] that is glowy and
beautiful instead of muddy.
[16:53] Hey, thank you.
[16:53] So Rose says, if there
are many different parts,
[16:56] how do we best make decisions, you,
[16:59] once you find the heart
healer, once you find
[17:02] the calm, peaceful one
[17:03] at the center, that's the
one that makes the decisions.
[17:07] And you'll go to it and
whatever makes you feel calmest
[17:10] and most peaceful, and it
most that part of the self,
[17:14] that's the person who calls
the shots and other parts.
[17:19] If you go, oh no, maybe if I do that,
[17:21] they'll never love me back.
[17:22] And the calm part will talk
back and say, oh sweetheart,
[17:25] if you don't do what you
need to do to be peaceful
[17:28] and they don't love you back
[17:31] then their love is not love
because it wants you out
[17:34] of peace, and how could that ever work?
[17:36] Even if they love you,
[17:37] you won't even be available to love them.
[17:39] So it's a wise self, it can help explain
[17:42] the dynamics of relationships,
[17:44] the dynamics of loss and love and all
[17:46] the things that are so difficult
for us as human beings.
[17:50] It knows its way through
all the obstacles.
[17:52] And your heart healer Rose is,
[17:57] it's much wiser than I am for you,
[18:02] it's your facet of the jewel,
[18:03] it is the one essence, the one soul.
[18:09] Maryanne says, I love this.
[18:11] What's the best time to practice it?
[18:14] I do it first thing in
the morning, first thing,
[18:17] but I also do it whenever
I am distressed in any way.
[18:21] Like last night I saw a play on Broadway,
[18:25] it's called Ohio State Murders,
and it was heartbreaking.
[18:27] Oh, really heartbreaking.
[18:31] Sorry if that's a spoiler,
very inspiring as well.
[18:34] But it was heartbreaking.
[18:36] And at the most heartbreaking break, part
[18:38] of the play, I kind of started
[18:40] to dissociate because
it was so heartbreaking.
[18:43] And so I just, I took my
eyes off the stage and I put,
[18:47] I dropped my eyes down and I
did a little meditation and I
[18:50] put the part of me that was
distressed in front of me,
[18:52] and I kind of contacted that
and I was like working with it.
[18:56] It's a play about loss and
racism and injustice and sexism
[19:01] and all these tragedies.
[19:03] And so the part of me that
needed to, that was heartbroken
[19:07] by all of that, had to go back
[19:08] to source, had to go
back to the heart healer.
[19:11] And then I was able to calm
down and I felt healed.
[19:16] And it was a very powerful piece of art.
[19:20] And it did that for me, it
broke my heart to heal my heart.
[19:23] And great art can do that for us.
[19:27] T-Bone Duke says, what if the
heart pain keeps coming back?
[19:29] Oh, it will.
[19:31] That's just what we do.
[19:34] So you just repeat, repeat.
[19:35] And it's not like, oh my
gosh, I have to do that again.
[19:40] The necessity of repeating
it, thinking of it is like,
[19:43] you know, I keep eating food
I love and it's delicious,
[19:46] but I'm hungry again
just hours later, like,
[19:48] why won't it stick?
[19:50] It won't stick because it's
meant to be a continuous process
[19:53] of nourishment, and because
the process is nourishing.
[19:56] Once you learn to do it, it's delicious.
[19:58] It's relieving.
[19:59] It's like being starving and
getting fed or being thirsty
[20:03] and getting a drink or being
hot and being refreshed.
[20:07] It happens again and again and again
[20:09] so that the heart heals stronger
and stronger and stronger.
[20:12] And so that the process
itself can be experienced
[20:16] in its full deliciousness.
[20:18] Just eating once and
never being hungry again
[20:20] wouldn't be as fun as having
delicious food every day
[20:24] right?
[20:25] Laurie says, are we afraid of wholeness?
[20:27] I think a lot of us are,
[20:28] because our wholeness includes
all the parts that hurt.
[20:32] And I know people who are always happy,
[20:34] always keeping themselves happy
[20:36] and excited, and everything's
great, everything's great,
[20:39] and I can feel a manic quality.
[20:43] And it's because they're saying, don't,
[20:46] I don't feel the parts of
myself that are heartbroken, no,
[20:48] they don't exist, they're not even here.
[20:50] That's why people are
always telling me, I was,
[20:52] I'm fine now, last week was
terrible, but I'm fine now.
[20:56] Like letting it into the present moment.
[20:58] Oof, you can't really do it.
[21:01] Like while you're at work, sometimes
[21:03] you kind of have to do to get
[21:04] by yourself to open a
really deep heartbreak.
[21:08] So yeah, we're terrified of our wholeness.
[21:11] Once we've integrated though,
[21:13] then there's so much more power
and wisdom to hold the pain
[21:17] of being human that it turns
out to be a huge advantage
[21:20] to be whole.
[21:21] And we stop suffering as
much and maybe we stop
[21:23] suffering at all.
[21:25] Hmm, I don't know.
[21:26] Tell me when you get there.
[21:30] Instarnet says, how do you know
[21:31] if it's healed properly aligned,
[21:32] or if it's grown over,
misaligned, really simple.
[21:36] When it grows over aligned,
you are completely peaceful,
[21:40] completely contented, almost unflappable.
[21:45] Peaceful, peaceful, peaceful.
[21:48] The one phrase that rings the chime
[21:52] of truth most deeply in the
most people I've talked to,
[21:55] hundreds and hundreds
of people is I am meant
[21:58] to live in peace.
[21:59] And when you say that, you
can feel the truth of it.
[22:03] And that's, that becomes
my bellwether, my,
[22:08] that's the chime of truth
that I'm always looking for.
[22:10] Does this bring me peace?
[22:11] And even believing something scary
[22:14] or heartbreaking, if it's
true, can feel peaceful.
[22:20] It does feel peaceful,
the truth feels peaceful,
[22:22] even if the news is not good.
[22:24] Like if you tried to say
to someone, you know,
[22:27] there's no suffering in
the world, they, okay,
[22:29] maybe there's no suffering
[22:30] in the world, doesn't feel peaceful
[22:32] and you, but if you say what
the heart healer says there is
[22:35] suffering, but there's a reason
for it and you'll be okay,
[22:39] that's more peaceful for me.
[22:41] You check and see what's peaceful
[22:42] for you, but that's how you
know if it's a line, peace
[22:48] constellations in her
bones, I love that tag.
[22:52] If we heal ourselves, do we
heal the larger community?
[22:54] Think of Martin Luther King
[22:56] as rejecting actually an illusion.
[22:59] Yeah, I think that's, well, there,
[23:02] there's a lot in that
question, if we heal ourselves,
[23:05] we can't help but become a component
[23:07] of healing for the larger
community, there's something,
[23:10] I'm sure you've heard
[23:12] of this called the
hundredth monkey syndrome.
[23:13] It was based on these people
who were studying monkeys
[23:17] in the islands off the coast of Japan.
[23:19] They're these monkeys that live in cold,
[23:22] they're the only monkeys
that live in cold climates.
[23:24] They were cut off in Japan
by the advance of an ice age.
[23:27] And they, they're very
wooly and have short tails
[23:29] and they like to hang out
in hot springs, but they eat
[23:35] the locals were giving them yams and rice
[23:38] to eat and they were on the beach.
[23:40] So the yams and the rice would get sand
[23:42] and it would grind their
teeth down and not be good.
[23:45] And one monkey on one
island figured out that
[23:49] if she threw her yams or rice
into the ocean into a pool,
[23:54] then she could wash them
and they'd come out clean.
[23:57] Even the rice could be
separated from the sand.
[24:00] So she learned to do that and
then she taught her babies
[24:03] to do it,
[24:04] and the whole troop started
watching and they all learned
[24:06] to do it.
[24:08] Now, there are groups
of these monkeys living
[24:10] on different isolated islands,
[24:12] and there were people observing
all of their communities.
[24:16] And it is said that when
about a hundred monkeys
[24:19] on one island learned
how to wash their yams,
[24:23] suddenly all the monkeys
on all the islands knew
[24:26] how to wash the yams.
[24:28] So the idea that we're all
connected, I believe is literal.
[24:32] And I believe that consciousness
communicates things.
[24:35] So if enough of us get to a place
[24:37] of heart wholeness, you just
walk through a Starbucks,
[24:41] you're a force for healing, if your heart
[24:43] is at peace, you walk
through the United Nations,
[24:47] if your heart is at peace,
you'll be a force for wholeness.
[24:50] We all help heal the world
by healing ourselves.
[24:53] And furthermore, it's the only way.
[24:55] If you're not healed, you
can't, you can't give healing.
[24:58] Not the deep heart healing.
[25:00] And I think Martin Luther King knew that.
[25:03] And I think he had,
[25:04] he had deep reserves of
acceptance and compassion
[25:09] for himself, for his people,
for even the people who had so
[25:15] horrifically oppressed other people,
[25:20] his people specifically.
[25:23] The rejection, for example,
[25:25] of black Americans by white Americans,
[25:27] is not an illusion on the
level of form, it is real,
[25:31] and it happened, and
yet Martin Luther King
[25:34] and everybody who followed
him in the social,
[25:37] in the civil rights
movement of an any person
[25:40] of any color, found a depth
of acceptance that was able
[25:44] to encompass the horror of that past.
[25:49] And that is, and that is truer.
[25:52] That is a truer source of
reality than just getting focused
[25:57] completely on oppression and suffering.
[26:00] So you have to include it, remember,
[26:03] you're not getting any rid
of any, you have to include
[26:05] the truth of discrimination
and injustice and horror.
[26:09] You include that in the heart healing.
[26:13] And that way you end up
healing every part of yourself.
[26:16] And then you can even eventually, I hope,
[26:20] start to heal others who are
maybe not so just and maybe who
[26:26] are in positions of
privilege and they like it
[26:28] and they're abusing it, even
they, that was his legacy.
[26:31] He said, even they will
come to find the truth,
[26:36] to find compassion, if we can
just keep this up, you know?
[26:42] And I hope we all can treasure his legacy
[26:45] and tomorrow, as we
celebrate the day named
[26:48] for him, if we can really
heal our own hearts
[26:51] and turn it toward the world,
[26:53] even the parts of the world
that are truly not just.
[26:57] Gail says,
[26:58] can you talk about the
difference between clean pain
[27:01] or pure grief over loss versus dirty pain.
[27:03] Pain caused by the stories
we tell about a loss?
[27:06] I can't tell if my hearts sick
part is feeling clean pain
[27:08] or dirty pain, that's pretty easy.
[27:13] You look to see if you're
responding the way an animal
[27:17] would or if there are words
attached to your suffering.
[27:22] That's the key.
[27:23] Are you talking to yourself
about the suffering?
[27:26] Because the only way you can suffer
[27:28] from thoughts is if you're using words.
[27:30] So when I think about, you know,
[27:34] the death of someone I love,
[27:36] there's the kind of pain
that makes dogs go sit
[27:38] on their master's graves,
you know, that kind of thing.
[27:41] But when I think things like, oh,
[27:44] I've been so deprived by life
and nobody should ever die
[27:48] and whatever, then I'm not at peace.
[27:50] And there are words
attached to the not peace.
[27:53] And those words will always be a lie.
[27:57] I promise you, the heart
healer will tell you, honey,
[28:00] that's not true.
[28:01] But I'm listening and
I get how hurt you are
[28:03] by your own words, I hope
you can get past that.
[28:07] And the clean pain you're
feeling will heal so strong.
[28:11] It heals so strong when it's loved.
[28:14] Couple of more little over
time, but that's fine.
[28:17] We started a minute late, donna says,
[28:18] what if the heart's sick
part of you is a part
[28:20] of you that you loathe and
feel has made terrible choices?
[28:23] And it is hard to even
listen to that part.
[28:26] Then you take the part that
hates it, that is loathing,
[28:29] that is making judgements
about the terrible choices.
[28:33] And you put that in front of you because
[28:35] that raving angry loathing
self needs your love as well.
[28:40] So you listen to it, let
it rant, let it loath,
[28:43] and then say, wow, you're suffering a lot.
[28:46] You're in a lot of pain, I see that.
[28:49] Tell me more.
[28:50] And just let it keep telling you its story
[28:52] and say, I'm listening, I'm listening.
[28:55] If you can find the a way
to mean it, when you say,
[29:00] I really want to hear you,
I really want to understand,
[29:03] don't contradict it, just listen to it.
[29:06] Eventually you'll find a
part of yourself that can see
[29:08] why it has that perspective
and can accept it anyway.
[29:12] And then it starts to
change its nature and soften
[29:16] and become less aggressive,
if you push against it,
[29:20] you're trying to kill it, of
course it's going to fight back.
[29:22] I would too.
[29:24] Okay, Cleo finally says
Cleo, which means star.
[29:29] I love that.
[29:29] Are there specific differences
to this technique we can make
[29:32] for pre-verbal heartsick parts?
[29:36] Yeah.
[29:37] If you draw at all,
[29:38] you can draw a picture of
the party that's grieving.
[29:41] If you don't draw, you
can choose something
[29:45] to stand for that, like
a little stuffed bear.
[29:48] Or you can find a picture of a little kid.
[29:53] I remember when I read
tennis is a tennis man
[29:56] who said, so runs my hope,
but what am I an infant crying
[29:59] in the night, an infant
crying for the light
[30:02] and with no language but a cry.
[30:04] I remember reading that
and having it touch
[30:07] the part of me that has
no language but a cry.
[30:11] So if you find a symbol
for that is kinesthetic
[30:14] or visual or a tactile,
you can just cuddle it up,
[30:21] wait for it to heal because
you can't heal anything.
[30:24] But it heals itself if
you come into alignment.
[30:29] So I hope all your hearts are
very healed and that you feel
[30:32] very peaceful and that I
will see you again next time
[30:36] on The Gathering. (kisses smooching)
[30:38] Thank you everybody.
[30:40] Love you.