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[0:00] When we receive guidance from our guides
[0:02] that feels like a no, that feels like a
[0:04] warning, [music] it's actually divine
[0:06] guided direction putting us on the right
[0:08] path and maybe just giving us a heads
[0:11] up. Something's coming.
[0:12] >> And what do we do with it?
[0:13] >> What are you going to do with it?
[0:14] >> There are really [music] troublesome
[0:15] moments that happen in our lives that
[0:16] are catalystic moments and opportunity
[0:19] for transformation and [music] change.
[0:21] >> What happens when we ignore a no from
[0:24] our guides? Your face. [laughter]
[0:27] I call it.
[0:30] >> We talk a lot about asking our spirit
[0:32] guides [music] for signs of affirmation,
[0:34] signs that we're manifesting, signs that
[0:36] we're on the right path. But what about
[0:38] the signs that we shouldn't do
[0:40] something, that we need to pivot, that
[0:42] we're off track or out of alignment?
[0:44] That kind of guidance is just as real.
[0:46] [music] It's just harder to identify and
[0:48] even harder to trust. And by the end of
[0:50] this episode, you'll know how to tell
[0:52] your spirit guides [music] are saying
[0:53] no, and how to trust that it's real, not
[0:55] just your fear. Welcome back to Dear
[0:58] Guides. My guest today is John Edward,
[1:01] one of the most respected [music]
[1:03] psychic mediums in the world. And today
[1:05] I'm asking him how to spot the
[1:07] difference between a superstition and a
[1:10] real message from spirit. We're getting
[1:12] into whether silence from our guides is
[1:14] its own kind of no. And [music] he's
[1:17] going to lead us through a practice to
[1:18] help us trust what you're receiving
[1:20] enough to actually act on it. Welcome to
[1:23] the show, John.
[1:24] >> Thank you for having me. Excited to be
[1:25] here. Welcome to Deer Guides.
[1:27] >> Thank you.
[1:27] >> And to the barn. This is where the magic
[1:29] happens.
[1:29] >> What a great vibe. I I walked in here
[1:31] and I was like, "This is a cool place.
[1:33] This is a cool vibe." I wasn't sure
[1:34] where I was going, if I was going to
[1:35] your house or where. I was like, "This
[1:37] is a real cool spot."
[1:38] >> It's such a vibe and it was necessary
[1:40] because the type of work that we do in
[1:42] this setting is so spiritual. It's so
[1:44] connected. We are going to invite our
[1:46] guides into the conversation. And before
[1:49] we do that, I just want to acknowledge
[1:50] that being in the right kind of space
[1:53] was very important for me. So, what I've
[1:56] always noticed is that whenever um
[1:58] somebody's developing, whenever we're
[2:00] going to do anything when it comes to
[2:01] this work, I always tell people to find
[2:04] one spot in their house and designate
[2:06] that spot as being the place that you're
[2:08] going to be working on whatever
[2:10] metaphysical practice that is. Whether
[2:12] it's yoga, meditation, I don't care if
[2:14] it's astrology, numerology, whatever it
[2:16] is, you want to kind of build up an
[2:18] energy in that one spot. And you've done
[2:20] that here. Yes.
[2:21] >> So, with all the conversations and all
[2:23] the guests that you have, it kind of
[2:25] holds the space in a kind of cool way.
[2:28] >> Do you have a specific guides that you
[2:29] work with?
[2:30] >> I have a couple of teams of energies
[2:31] that kind of show up when when I'm going
[2:33] to be like working. So, I I have I have
[2:35] a like an original team that's been like
[2:37] working with me since I started. And
[2:38] then in 2012, I got this whole other
[2:41] overlay of energies that came in because
[2:43] they said that the energy of the world
[2:46] was going to be descending into some
[2:47] negative like, you know, darkness and
[2:50] that they were there and working with
[2:52] people to help raise the vibration on a
[2:55] global level.
[2:55] >> Well, let's invite those guys in. I
[2:58] mean, really, whoever you want. I I
[2:59] always welcome the guidance of the
[3:01] highest truth and compassion to enter
[3:03] into the space. my teachers and uh and
[3:05] my guides which is a group of collective
[3:07] energy that's a really like a bright
[3:09] golden light how I visualize it and it's
[3:11] a higher purpose energy that
[3:13] specifically comes through when I write
[3:15] when I speak and for this community so
[3:17] this community you guys know that we're
[3:19] speaking on behalf of higher purpose it
[3:21] just shows up for me as a golden light
[3:23] energy but it's like a flange of
[3:24] entities that are up there
[3:26] >> cool and then for the people that are
[3:27] watching if you guys um want a visual
[3:29] aid of what you can do once you protect
[3:32] yourself and I always tell people to you
[3:34] say something like really really simple
[3:35] like I encircle myself in the white
[3:36] light of universal love and divine
[3:38] protection and then you could add
[3:39] whatever affirmations you want to put in
[3:42] but I always imagine that around you
[3:44] like up above you are these helium
[3:46] balloons and each one of these balloons
[3:48] represent your guides right so if you
[3:50] have four guides maybe you have four
[3:52] balloons if you have 12 guides you've
[3:53] got 12 balloons and consciously just
[3:56] imagine pulling on the strings and
[3:59] pulling them closer to you like bringing
[4:01] them all around you just as a visual aid
[4:04] cuz some people need something visual to
[4:06] work with.
[4:06] >> That was so good. So, you've said now
[4:09] just consciously in your mind,
[4:11] >> my white light is around me. I'm
[4:13] protected. [clears throat] And then you
[4:14] visualize your guides coming in through
[4:15] these balloons and they're here now.
[4:17] >> And I it's it's me basically turning the
[4:19] switch on.
[4:20] >> That's right.
[4:20] >> It's me saying I'm willing and ready and
[4:22] open to receiving in a conscious way. I
[4:25] believe that every day we're receiving
[4:27] information from them and we just don't
[4:29] even realize we're getting it cuz we're
[4:30] busy. Life's happening. You're paying
[4:31] your bills. you're stuck in traffic,
[4:32] you're taking care of your kids, all the
[4:34] things that are taking place, you don't
[4:36] realize that that guidance is seeping
[4:37] in. I mean, it's what it's what they're
[4:39] there for. I ask people to actually
[4:41] become more active with it.
[4:43] >> Yes.
[4:43] >> Like, hey, apparently I have a team of
[4:46] energies that are working with me. I
[4:49] don't know who you are, but thank you
[4:50] for being there. I'm working on this.
[4:53] Can you help me out with this?
[4:54] >> And I think it's important to actually
[4:56] invite them in. And I think what's
[4:58] interesting is that so many people that
[5:00] come up to me after events or after
[5:02] readings, they're like, I have guides.
[5:04] >> I'm like, yeah.
[5:06] >> I was like, in my philosophy, you have a
[5:08] master guide that's with you from the
[5:09] day you're born to the day you pass. And
[5:11] then throughout your life, you're going
[5:12] to have all these different energies
[5:13] going to come in depending upon where
[5:14] you're at on your timeline and what
[5:16] lessons you're working on.
[5:19] >> Yeah, we not utilize it.
[5:20] >> So, we've got our core guides. We've got
[5:23] other guides that will come in to
[5:25] support us at different times. Is that
[5:26] what you're saying? Yes.
[5:27] >> Right on. Okay. Cool. We often on this
[5:30] show talk about how we can bring guides
[5:32] in that will give us direction, will
[5:35] give us hope, will give us clarity on a
[5:38] decision. But this specific episode for
[5:40] you is about how we allow our guides to
[5:44] show us and reveal to us when it's a no.
[5:48] Real real clear nos. And I think that's
[5:51] actually harder to get.
[5:52] >> It is.
[5:53] >> Yeah,
[5:53] >> it is. So, so first we have to establish
[5:56] what is the feeling and connection that
[5:57] you get when you're getting information
[5:59] intuitively.
[6:00] >> And I think that so many people get
[6:02] stuck there. Yeah.
[6:03] >> Because they don't even know they have
[6:04] guides. So, first we have to establish,
[6:06] yes, you have a team of energies.
[6:07] >> You have a team of energies.
[6:08] >> You have a team. Call it your spirit
[6:09] team. We don't need to know their names.
[6:10] You don't have to do roll call. It
[6:12] doesn't have to be like the Waltons.
[6:13] Like, you know what I'm saying? You
[6:14] don't have to do like, you know, hello
[6:15] so and so and this. I mean, do I know my
[6:17] god's names? I do. Do I literally go
[6:19] over each one of them by name? I don't.
[6:21] I acknowledge them as a collective
[6:22] because that's what they're pretty much
[6:23] there for. They are there as a as a
[6:25] collective.
[6:26] >> And just like your teachers in school
[6:27] are not your relatives. You have these
[6:30] strangers in school that help you. You
[6:32] have these energies that maybe in the
[6:34] tapestry of your lifetimes. You've been
[6:36] in roles before with them in a
[6:38] relationship family dynamic, but in this
[6:40] one they're playing the role of your
[6:43] teacher, your spiritual guide. Ask them
[6:46] for help. Once you establish you have
[6:48] them and you're creating a relationship,
[6:50] always protecting your energy, right? We
[6:52] talked about protection. I think you
[6:54] have to now go with how do I know I'm
[6:56] getting something as opposed to how do I
[6:58] know I'm wishful thinking and how do I
[7:01] know that I'm not creating a narrative.
[7:03] This is probably the place that people
[7:05] objectively get stuck in the biggest
[7:07] way.
[7:07] >> Yeah.
[7:08] >> Because you have to get your human ego
[7:09] out of the way and you have to allow
[7:11] yourself to recognize what am I actually
[7:14] seeing? What am I hearing? what am I
[7:17] feeling? And a good portion of people
[7:18] are going to say, "I'm not getting
[7:19] anything." So, we have to now try to
[7:22] find ways to understand. So, I use a
[7:25] very simple example. Okay? I'm going to
[7:27] say something
[7:28] >> and then I want you to see what your
[7:29] immediate reaction is.
[7:30] >> Great.
[7:31] >> Okay.
[7:32] >> 2+ 2 is four.
[7:33] >> Mhm. Yes.
[7:34] >> See how you got that? It's just like,
[7:36] you know,
[7:37] >> oh, good, John. That's so cool.
[7:39] >> You know that 2 plus two is four.
[7:41] >> But if I say Mickey Mouse is a rabbit,
[7:45] Mm-
[7:46] >> Right. So now we have a benchmark of how
[7:48] you can go something is affirmative. I
[7:51] suggest you guys have like three or four
[7:53] examples of each that somebody else
[7:56] makes for you. Truthful positive
[7:58] statements that we know are affirmative
[8:00] and then negative statements that we
[8:02] know are not not plausible. So that you
[8:04] start to get that feeling in your body
[8:06] of what this feels like. So when you hit
[8:09] that person, right, and they're like,
[8:10] "Oh my god, Mike's such a great guy."
[8:13] And you're like, M mm- And everybody's
[8:17] like, "Everybody loves Mike." And you're
[8:18] like,
[8:19] >> "Nope."
[8:20] >> So good.
[8:21] >> No, Mickey Mouse is not a rabbit. This
[8:22] is not feeling right.
[8:23] >> Yes.
[8:24] >> You have something to base that on. And
[8:25] you might not know the why you're not
[8:28] liking the mic energy, but you're going
[8:30] to the place of, "Oh, I'm going to I'm
[8:32] going to just checkmark that and say, I
[8:35] need to look at this."
[8:35] >> This is a practice of getting in tune
[8:37] with what a yes feels like inside and
[8:39] what a no feels like inside.
[8:40] >> Correct.
[8:41] >> This is fantastic.
[8:42] >> Correct. And it really starts there. Is
[8:43] there a practice that you can help us
[8:44] get into the energy of listening so that
[8:47] we can really begin to hear and trust
[8:49] what we're receiving?
[8:51] >> So, one of the exercises I like to give
[8:53] people just in general is to put
[8:56] themselves in a position to receive.
[8:57] >> Okay?
[8:58] >> And one of the easiest places that you
[9:00] could do that is the shower because we
[9:02] all shower,
[9:02] >> okay? So, I want you to whether you
[9:04] shower in the morning, whether you
[9:06] shower in the evening, I want you to
[9:07] imagine when you're in that shower,
[9:09] lather up from head to toe. And all of
[9:13] that lathering, sudsy, soapy, shampooy
[9:16] stuff that you're using, I want you to
[9:18] visualize that as being negative energy
[9:20] that you're releasing. So when you get
[9:22] underneath the water and you watch it
[9:24] come off of your body that is now
[9:27] representing anything negative that
[9:28] you've been carrying in your oric field
[9:31] or anything that might represent
[9:32] something emotionally, mentally,
[9:34] physically, spiritually that you're
[9:35] carrying on an unconscious level, but
[9:37] you're consciously doing something to
[9:38] release it and letting it go. And you
[9:40] may want to do this a couple of times
[9:42] and literally watch it come off your
[9:45] body and go in into the into the drain.
[9:47] So you're releasing it. So it's a
[9:48] conscious exercise in releasing. The
[9:51] other thing I'm going to ask them to do
[9:53] is that while you're in that same zone,
[9:56] I want you to imagine that the water
[9:57] represents the actual information coming
[10:00] from your guides down to you. Right? So,
[10:03] we talked earlier in the episode about
[10:04] bringing the balloons down around you.
[10:07] Same thing, the waters that falling from
[10:09] above to like all around you. You want
[10:11] to put yourself in that column of energy
[10:13] of receiving that. And when you put
[10:15] yourself in that column of energy
[10:17] receiving, pay attention to what you're
[10:18] thinking. Pay attention to what you're
[10:19] hearing. Pay attention to what you're
[10:20] feeling. And as soon as you get out of
[10:21] the shower, write it all down.
[10:23] >> Okay. Okay. Love it. Beautiful. What
[10:25] does no answer sound like from your
[10:28] guides? It's
[10:29] >> more of a feeling.
[10:29] >> It's a feeling.
[10:30] >> It's more of a feeling. Um there was
[10:33] something like I could tell you like
[10:34] recently like last December something
[10:36] that happened very early in December for
[10:37] me. And the the mandate and the edict
[10:43] that was downloaded to me was you do not
[10:47] respond to this. You do not acknowledge
[10:50] this, you do not engage with this, you
[10:53] do not communicate with this, you walk
[10:56] away from this.
[10:57] >> Okay?
[10:58] >> And it had that energy for me. It was
[11:00] like,
[11:03] >> I can't explain it, but it was almost
[11:04] like a parental energy of,
[11:06] >> yeah,
[11:07] >> I'm going to kick your ass if you don't
[11:08] listen. Like, it's like you are in big
[11:10] ass trouble if you don't listen to this.
[11:11] Like, we will cut you off. So, it was
[11:13] like, oh,
[11:14] >> okay. I knew emphatically I need to pull
[11:17] my energy away from that and I can't be
[11:19] connected to that.
[11:20] >> So I've had moments like that throughout
[11:23] my this is 41 years of doing this. I've
[11:24] had lots of moments where I didn't
[11:27] listen to that and the result was
[11:29] negative. So we have free will. We all
[11:32] have the ability to ignore guidance. I
[11:35] mean how many times I mean how many
[11:36] times have you guys watching this like
[11:38] where you get information and you're
[11:40] like but I really want to go. Yeah.
[11:42] >> Right. Your ego self outtalks the
[11:45] spiritual understanding that you know
[11:47] that something
[11:48] >> more often than not.
[11:49] >> Yep. And we are human having a human
[11:51] experience and the human ego connected
[11:53] to the earthly desires puts us in
[11:55] positions to think that we can use our
[11:57] free will to create a different outcome
[12:00] even though your astrology, numerology,
[12:02] your guides and everybody else is going
[12:05] no.
[12:06] >> And we think oh no no I could do this.
[12:07] >> Yeah. And then all of a sudden
[12:10] eventually that individual, whoever they
[12:13] may be, winds up into a circumstance
[12:15] that's a little bit of a spiritual dead
[12:17] end. And they're now left with that
[12:19] moment of like, "Oh my god, how did I
[12:20] get here? What did I do?"
[12:22] >> Oh, you didn't listen.
[12:23] >> That's right.
[12:23] >> Right.
[12:24] >> You didn't listen. You didn't listen.
[12:25] >> It's too often that we don't. That's
[12:27] what this whole episode's going to be
[12:29] about is how do we know what a no feels
[12:32] like and then how do we follow through
[12:34] with that? Because I think we may hear
[12:37] that note and then override it. We can
[12:39] just not listen, just ignore the signs,
[12:41] ignore the messages, go with what we
[12:43] what our will wants. But it's a lot
[12:46] easier if we would listen in the first
[12:48] place.
[12:48] >> It is. And I think that's where lessons
[12:50] come in.
[12:51] >> Yeah.
[12:51] >> Right. And I I I always look at how they
[12:55] train us. And I say train us because I
[12:57] think that when we live in awareness,
[13:00] when we live in awareness, when we
[13:02] invoke that way of living and thinking,
[13:05] things just go smoothly,
[13:07] >> right? Things will go smoothly. We might
[13:09] not like everything, but things flow. If
[13:12] you guys are watching this right now, if
[13:13] you're listening to this right now, and
[13:15] you're in a place in your life where
[13:17] you're like, I don't like the way things
[13:18] are going, and there's a repetition of
[13:20] patterns that are happening, and you
[13:23] think like, oh my god, I know better.
[13:24] and everybody else is telling you, "No,
[13:25] this is not good for you." Like, just
[13:28] really take an assessment and are you in
[13:31] alignment? And if you're not, how do you
[13:34] shift that? Because it's only going to
[13:35] get worse if you don't.
[13:36] >> Yeah.
[13:37] >> Right. You can course correct. Everybody
[13:38] can course correct. The original GPS is
[13:41] your own spiritual guidance.
[13:42] >> Right. When you don't listen and it goes
[13:45] rending, right, reprogramming, it's
[13:47] going to put you back on that on that
[13:49] course. But we do have free will.
[13:50] >> Okay? And that free will is something
[13:52] that's highly significant if we pay
[13:54] attention to what is available to us. I
[13:57] remember when my first book came out one
[14:00] last time and I was in California and I
[14:03] was very excited because Entertainment
[14:05] Tonight made me the cover story of that
[14:09] evening. They were going to cover my
[14:10] book signing.
[14:11] >> Okay.
[14:12] >> And I was really excited. And then I get
[14:15] a phone call from my wife and she said,
[14:18] "Hey,
[14:19] did you did you take the Pathfinder to
[14:22] the airport?" And I went, "No, why?"
[14:25] She's like, "Well, it's not here." And I
[14:26] said, "What do you mean it's not there?"
[14:28] She's like, "Well, did anybody upstairs
[14:30] want to tell you that your car was going
[14:31] to be stolen from our driveway?" I was
[14:32] like, "No."
[14:34] >> Wow.
[14:35] >> I was like, "Are you positive?" And she
[14:36] goes, "Well, let me see. It was in the
[14:38] driveway last night. It's not there
[14:39] anymore and it's not there now, and you
[14:41] didn't take it." She goes, "And yeah,
[14:43] car's gone." So that happened in the
[14:45] morning and I I remember thinking like,
[14:46] "Okay, why wouldn't they have given me
[14:49] that as a as an insight?" So that was
[14:52] just like how my morning started. Then
[14:55] when I went to my guides about why
[14:57] didn't you show that to me that they
[15:00] didn't answer, but instead they said,
[15:02] "Entertainment tonight can't come to
[15:04] your books on tonight."
[15:07] And I was like, "Why not?" No answer.
[15:11] No answer. It was just entertainment
[15:14] tonight can't come to your book signing.
[15:16] And I'm like, "Okay." So, I called my
[15:19] publicist at the book company and I was
[15:20] like, "Hey, I have bad news." And they
[15:22] said, "What's the bad news?" I go, "ET
[15:25] can't cover the the book signing
[15:26] tonight." And the public said, "No,
[15:28] that's not true. I just got off the
[15:29] phone with them. They're absolutely
[15:30] going to be covering it and it's going
[15:32] to be great coverage for the book." And
[15:33] I went, "Oh, no, no. I'm not telling you
[15:35] that they're not able to attend. I'm
[15:37] telling you that my guides said They
[15:40] can't come. Like you can't allow them to
[15:43] come.
[15:44] >> And the publicist said to me, and you
[15:45] understand this world,
[15:46] >> crazy.
[15:47] >> Are you out of your mind? You're the
[15:50] cover story. And by the way, this is in
[15:51] 199899.
[15:53] >> This is what you need. Yeah.
[15:54] >> But this is when Entertainment Tonight
[15:55] was like the pinnacle of
[15:57] >> And they were like, you no, you you tell
[16:00] your guys that you I was like,
[16:02] >> you tell your guys.
[16:02] >> I was like, no, no, you don't
[16:03] understand. like either you cancel
[16:07] entertainment tonight or I'm not going.
[16:10] >> Wow, John.
[16:11] >> And they were like, "Well, you're
[16:12] putting us in a very, very bad spot."
[16:14] And I go, "I know. I'm really really
[16:16] sorry." And they're like, "You're
[16:18] seriously going to listen to that?" I'm
[16:20] like,
[16:21] >> "This is what I do."
[16:22] >> I'm like, "Are you out of your mind?
[16:23] That's Yes, I'm seriously going to
[16:24] listen to that." And my friend [snorts]
[16:26] at the time was like, "Are you sure
[16:27] you're making the right decision?" And I
[16:29] went, "Yeah." I'm like, "I don't know
[16:31] what's about ready to happen." So, as
[16:33] we're on the way to the Barnes & Noble
[16:34] in Santa Monica that night, I
[16:37] legitimately was like, "You know what? I
[16:38] bet you nobody's going to show up.
[16:40] There's going to be like nobody at this
[16:41] book signing, and that's what they're
[16:42] protecting me from. They're protecting
[16:44] me from like, you know, one person
[16:46] sitting there at the book signing."
[16:47] >> Nope. Place was packed. It was well
[16:50] attended. It was a huge event. So, my
[16:53] friends looking at me like, "So, now
[16:55] what? Like, why couldn't they be here?"
[16:57] Halfway through the event, this woman
[16:59] walks in the back of the store, the back
[17:01] of the room,
[17:03] >> like a Darth Vader type energy.
[17:06] >> Yeah.
[17:06] >> And starts screaming at me.
[17:08] >> Yeah.
[17:08] >> Where's the proof? You have no proof.
[17:10] This is a bunch of BS
[17:12] >> and blah blah blah blah blah blah blah.
[17:14] >> And I just sat back and I was like, if
[17:17] ET was there tonight,
[17:18] >> that's all they would have picked up.
[17:19] >> That's what they would have covered.
[17:20] >> That's all they would have covered.
[17:21] >> It would not have been about the book.
[17:22] >> I love that story. And I just was like,
[17:25] and then when I got done with the event,
[17:27] my friend at the time looked at me. He
[17:29] goes, "Don't ever not listen to what
[17:31] they tell you."
[17:32] >> And I was like, "It's how I live my
[17:34] life." [laughter]
[17:35] >> The public is like, "Can I have you on
[17:37] speed dial?"
[17:38] >> She literally was like, "Holy crap."
[17:40] >> That is excellent.
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[23:14] >> It would be the easiest opportunity for
[23:15] you to completely ignore your guides and
[23:17] just say no, no, no, ET's coming. But
[23:20] you did it. You heard the no and you
[23:23] acted on it. And then in effect saved
[23:27] not only your career moment but also for
[23:30] all the mediums to come, right? because
[23:32] you were really setting the stage for a
[23:33] lot of mediums and a lot of visibility
[23:35] around this content and that would have
[23:36] been a big story that would have just
[23:38] been out there forever. The internet's
[23:39] long living and we would have known oh
[23:41] this is doesn't work or this is drama
[23:43] and we didn't want the drama around this
[23:44] work. So that is an incredible story
[23:48] that I really want you guys to listen to
[23:49] to take in to digest because the next
[23:52] time you hear that no really don't
[23:55] ignore it. And for folks who may have a
[23:58] little bit of trouble understanding the
[24:01] no, you've given us this one exercise of
[24:03] starting to practice, okay, what's a
[24:05] yes, what's a no, and feeling that
[24:07] feeling inside. What's another technique
[24:09] for really digesting and understanding
[24:11] the no when spirit gives it to us?
[24:14] >> Writing everything you get down, date
[24:16] and time. Because I think the imperative
[24:18] is looking for validation, understanding
[24:21] that there's a validity to what you're
[24:23] getting. Because we can talk ourselves
[24:25] out of anything.
[24:27] >> We can talk ourselves into anything.
[24:28] >> So we have to look at facts. So my
[24:30] background comes out of healthcare. I I
[24:32] used to work in a laboratory and I
[24:34] worked in healthcare in a clinical
[24:35] environment as well as an admin
[24:36] environment.
[24:37] >> And data is really really important. So
[24:40] I went from a clinical environment of a
[24:42] laboratory to eventually working in the
[24:44] admin part of the IT part of a hospital
[24:46] where ad where again data and analytics
[24:50] were necessary in order to do your job.
[24:52] So, I have that kind of like as a
[24:54] benchmark in my mind.
[24:55] >> I need to see validation. Yeah.
[24:56] >> Right. And when I read for people, I
[24:58] will often say, I'm going to give you
[25:00] information and then I'm going to back
[25:02] up the information I just gave you. It's
[25:04] not just for you. It's for me. So, I
[25:05] could trust what's coming next.
[25:07] >> And I think trust is a really important
[25:09] thing to build when we're dealing with
[25:10] metaphysical practices and spiritual
[25:12] understanding. But that trust comes only
[25:14] when you have data, statistics, and
[25:16] analytics to look at. And that's what
[25:18] you're building on that foundation. So,
[25:20] you write it down as soon as you hear
[25:22] it. The date,
[25:22] >> date and time, whenever. Or you could
[25:24] pop it on your like, you know, your
[25:25] device, little notes after, however you
[25:27] want to do that.
[25:28] >> Um, when I was a kid, I used to mail
[25:30] stuff to my house
[25:32] >> cuz it would be sealed in an envelope,
[25:35] date stamped in time, postmarked,
[25:37] >> right?
[25:37] >> And then what happened, and I sometimes
[25:39] would put it in my mom's drawer, and I'd
[25:41] say, "Hey, go to your drawer. Pick out
[25:44] the envelope." And she'd look at it be
[25:46] like, "Okay." I go, "Look at the date."
[25:49] Okay. And then she'd open up and
[25:51] whatever the thing was that they told me
[25:53] had just transpired.
[25:54] >> Yes.
[25:54] >> And she would look at me and go, "Why
[25:56] don't you just tell me?" I'm like,
[25:58] "What?" She's like, "I'll believe you.
[26:00] Just just tell me." I was like, "Yeah,
[26:02] but look, it's like dates, stamped, and
[26:03] timed." And she said, "I think you're
[26:05] doing this more for you than it is for
[26:06] me."
[26:06] >> Yeah.
[26:07] >> And I was. And I think it's important
[26:09] for people to do it for themselves in
[26:10] the same way. I think that when you
[26:12] write things down,
[26:13] >> that level of validation makes you go, I
[26:16] can't just go, oh, that was a
[26:18] coincidence.
[26:19] >> No, you can't just think of it as a
[26:21] coincidence. I like this idea of you all
[26:23] doing this. The next time you get a hit
[26:25] that feels really strong,
[26:27] >> this is a no or this thing is gonna
[26:29] happen or I'm feeling like I should do
[26:31] something,
[26:33] >> write it to yourself as a letter and put
[26:35] the date and obviously you've got it
[26:37] stamped so you're going to have the
[26:39] exact date stamp time. So somewhere
[26:41] wherever you are like your spot where
[26:44] you build up energy, where you meditate,
[26:45] where you do your work, print out the
[26:48] word trust, so that it's in eyesight.
[26:52] >> Mhm.
[26:53] >> And use it as a reminder. The room where
[26:56] I read, I have a rock that says trust.
[26:58] It's been there for like 35 years.
[27:00] >> Yeah.
[27:00] >> Because I have to always remind myself
[27:03] to trust what's coming through and to
[27:06] recognize that it's not about me.
[27:07] >> Yeah.
[27:08] >> It's about the energy that's coming
[27:09] through me. And all I'm doing is
[27:11] facilitating what that is. And I want
[27:13] people to print out the word trust and
[27:16] place it somewhere in your ey line so
[27:18] that you could recognize that you have
[27:21] to do that when dealing with the world
[27:23] of energy.
[27:23] >> How do we tell the difference between
[27:25] fear and a warning from our guides?
[27:27] >> So the the feeling of excitement and
[27:29] anxiety in our body could be very very
[27:31] similar.
[27:32] >> The feeling of fear, excitement, and
[27:34] anxiety can also feel very very very
[27:37] similar yet different. So we have to
[27:39] look at where is the intentionality
[27:42] within that. What's underlying that?
[27:43] What are we building our feelings on? So
[27:46] I like to talk about we have two
[27:47] motivations in life. Love and fear. So
[27:50] which motivation is being triggered with
[27:53] the feeling that we're getting. So am I
[27:56] being triggered by fear or am I being
[27:59] triggered for a warning? Because there's
[28:02] going to be a difference in there
[28:02] because you may fear the warning. So we
[28:05] have to look at it from a standpoint of
[28:08] okay, how objective can I be about this,
[28:11] >> right?
[28:11] >> Yes.
[28:12] >> How objective can I be? Yeah,
[28:13] >> objectivity is important.
[28:15] >> What I'm hearing my guide say too is
[28:17] that we're never giving you negative
[28:20] messages. I I think sort of just in the
[28:22] sense of it's always coming from love,
[28:25] which is sort of re reiterating what
[28:26] you're saying. It may sound directive
[28:29] and it may sound alarming, but it's
[28:33] always in the pursuit of love. If we
[28:36] accept that, then we can really kind of
[28:40] def different differentiate between what
[28:42] you're saying specifically right now,
[28:44] which is is it motivated by fear or is
[28:46] it motivated by love?
[28:47] >> And what is it triggering for us?
[28:49] >> And what is it triggering for us?
[28:51] Excellent. So for me, if I'm doing a
[28:53] reading for someone and negative or what
[28:55] would be deemed negative information is
[28:58] coming through. The reason why it's
[28:59] coming through is to prevent it.
[29:00] >> Yep.
[29:01] >> Or to better deal with what's going to
[29:02] be teaching us a lesson.
[29:04] >> Right. Right. We talked about this when
[29:05] you walked in the door. We were talking
[29:06] about how you were like, "Well, you're a
[29:08] Scorpio and there's all this stuff
[29:09] happening for Scorpios." And I was like,
[29:10] "Oh, no." And you're like, "No, it's not
[29:11] a no. It's about just interpreting how
[29:13] you can learn more and what's going to
[29:15] happen and what the growth opportunity
[29:16] is."
[29:17] >> Correct. And so that is actually a
[29:19] really beautiful way of looking at this.
[29:20] When we receive guidance from our guides
[29:23] that feels like a no, that feels like a
[29:24] warning. It's actually divine guided
[29:27] direction putting us on the right path
[29:29] and maybe just giving us a heads up.
[29:32] Something's coming
[29:32] >> and what do we do with it?
[29:33] >> What are you going to do with it?
[29:34] >> Right?
[29:34] >> So that's the question we could ask.
[29:36] Okay. Thank you. Now show me what to do
[29:38] with it.
[29:39] >> Thank you for warning me. Show me what
[29:40] to do. What's the lesson?
[29:41] >> What's the lesson?
[29:42] >> Okay, great. Okay, so I've got a
[29:44] warning. I feel that it's a warning.
[29:46] It's not motivated by fear. It's
[29:47] motivated by love. And maybe it feels
[29:50] like a a maternal or paternal energy or
[29:52] some kind of guidance genuinely. And I'm
[29:55] going to then next say, "Thank you for
[29:57] the guidance." And what can I do with
[30:00] it?
[30:01] >> So then the next place I would go,
[30:02] >> okay,
[30:03] >> is I would say I'm going to implore an
[30:05] objective third party,
[30:07] >> okay?
[30:07] >> And that objective third party more than
[30:10] likely is going to be an astrologer.
[30:12] And the reason why I'm going to pull an
[30:14] astrologer in is I'm not and I won't
[30:16] tell the astrologer what I'm wondering
[30:19] about. I want to see what comes up
[30:20] organically. I will basically want to
[30:23] know from them what am I working on
[30:25] right now and universally what's the
[30:28] lessons on the table that I should be
[30:30] exploring because then I'm going to take
[30:32] that and overlay it to my feeling.
[30:34] >> Got it. Okay. So, you're going to get
[30:35] even more information. You're going
[30:37] data.
[30:37] >> Yeah.
[30:38] >> I'm going for the I'm going for the
[30:39] information, the evidence, the
[30:40] validation. I see you with your lab
[30:42] coat. Yep. I just saw a spark of light
[30:44] right over your shoulder. So, you're in
[30:45] your lab coat. You're figuring it out.
[30:47] In fact, when I pulled in this morning,
[30:48] there was a uh for whatever reason, my
[30:50] eye went to a um uh a license plate and
[30:54] it said lab.
[30:56] >> I clocked it. I said I didn't know why.
[30:58] I said, "Okay, it says lab."
[30:59] >> Literally, I don't know why I clocked it
[31:01] and now it's making sense because this
[31:02] is really about teaching us how to be
[31:04] that in the laboratory,
[31:06] >> being in the metaphysical lab.
[31:07] >> The metaphysical lab,
[31:08] >> you're looking for your data. you're
[31:09] looking to so science teaches us that
[31:11] we're supposed to replicate and extend
[31:13] data points every time you're you're
[31:14] doing something right in an
[31:16] experimentation if you want to like they
[31:17] look for the subject matter when I was
[31:19] part of the University of Arizona
[31:21] studies way back when when Dr. Gary
[31:22] Schwarz wrote his book, The Afterlife
[31:24] Experiments. Myself and a number of
[31:25] mediums were there.
[31:26] >> We didn't do the same experiment every
[31:27] time because you have to duplicate and
[31:30] then expand it and push the boundaries.
[31:32] So, I'm always looking to push the
[31:33] boundaries of
[31:34] >> of information. How much more how much
[31:37] deeper can I go?
[31:38] >> Whether it's myself or my client.
[31:40] >> So, I would look to an astrologer to
[31:41] kind of like where's the lesson?
[31:43] >> And then I would say to them at the end
[31:45] if they say, "Do you have any
[31:46] questions?" Be like, "Yeah, I kind of
[31:47] feel this way. My guides were showing me
[31:49] this." How would you interpret that
[31:52] looking at my chart because I don't want
[31:53] to miss anything.
[31:54] >> Yeah. Yeah. I love it because you don't
[31:56] want to miss anything. You're in the
[31:57] metaphysical lab and then I think that
[31:59] there are moments as you said earlier
[32:01] where spirit won't give us the message
[32:03] because something has to happen.
[32:05] Correct.
[32:05] >> Even if it's negative and I have an
[32:07] experience recently that this happened.
[32:08] Okay. So, uh a family member of mine
[32:12] >> got [clears throat]
[32:12] royally scammed out of a tremendous
[32:14] amount of money. And so just for your
[32:16] out there for your elder family members
[32:17] is like a PSA but it's it's really
[32:20] really pervasive what's happening with
[32:22] these you know text messages scamming
[32:25] and it was a tremendous amount of money.
[32:27] >> I sit in this room with every psychic
[32:30] medium under the sun week after week
[32:33] after week. The best you are the leading
[32:35] psychic medium. You're all in this room
[32:37] sitting in these chairs. I can attune in
[32:39] I can hear crickets crickets. Crickets.
[32:41] Nobody gave me any information. I didn't
[32:43] get any information. Even in a reading,
[32:45] I wouldn't get any information in
[32:46] astrology reading. I wouldn't get any
[32:48] information. And I after I find out
[32:50] about this, I'm thinking spirit, what
[32:52] the why didn't anybody give me a heads
[32:54] up? This was information I would have
[32:56] loved to have known months ago, right?
[32:58] >> How could I intervene? I have come to
[33:01] accept that there is obviously spiritual
[33:05] learning and healing for this
[33:06] individual, for myself, for our
[33:07] relationship, right? Uh, also there's
[33:10] other people in the family that we want
[33:11] to get lot, you know, order or organized
[33:13] now.
[33:14] >> And now millions of people are going to
[33:15] learn from this.
[33:15] >> And now millions of people are going to
[33:17] learn from this. I'm looking you in the
[33:18] eye. If you have a loved one that is
[33:21] anyone that is even slightly gullible,
[33:23] maybe elder, and they don't really
[33:25] understand technology and people's
[33:27] texting or emails that come through. Do
[33:30] not trust it. Delete it. Report it.
[33:32] Delete it. Report it. Delete it. Report
[33:33] it. Delete it. Report it. Do not get on
[33:35] signal with anyone. Just do not do it.
[33:38] This is this is a huge issue.
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[39:59] >> Two things I'm hearing right as we talk.
[40:01] one in 1989, nobody upstairs gave me a
[40:05] clue that my mom had terminal cancer.
[40:07] >> Zero. Nobody said she had cancer to the
[40:10] point that she was in such pain. She had
[40:12] a shoulder issue. She was in such pain
[40:13] that she asked me to ask my guides in
[40:15] April of 1989. She said, "Can you ask
[40:17] your guides what this is?" So I did and
[40:20] they gave me one word and the word was
[40:23] pass.
[40:25] So I was like, "I don't know. They're
[40:26] saying pass." I go, "Whatever this is is
[40:28] going to pass." And I was like walking
[40:30] away from her and she went, "Oh my god,
[40:32] you're misinterpreting." I'm like, "I
[40:35] am?" And she said, "They're telling you
[40:37] I'm going to pass. You're missing it."
[40:40] And I laughed. I was like, "Oh, so
[40:41] you're the psychic now." I was like, "Oh
[40:43] my god, save your Italian drama." Like,
[40:45] please.
[40:46] >> Yeah.
[40:46] >> She was right.
[40:47] >> She died in October.
[40:49] >> Yeah.
[40:49] >> So, I chose not to interpret the word
[40:52] pass in the way that she did. So, there
[40:56] was a lesson for me. There's multiple
[40:58] lessons for me. the entire experience of
[41:00] her illness and death and her passing
[41:03] turned me into having this conversation
[41:04] with you on the couch right now.
[41:06] >> Right?
[41:06] >> So, there are moments in our lives that
[41:08] take place that are catalystic moments
[41:11] and opportunities for change. I'll say
[41:13] that again. There are really troublesome
[41:15] moments that happen in our lives that
[41:16] are catalystic moments and opportunity
[41:19] for transformation and change.
[41:21] >> It's making me cry when you say that.
[41:23] There are moments in our life with
[41:25] catalystic moments that are
[41:26] opportunities for change. Yeah.
[41:28] >> Transformation, transformative and
[41:30] change
[41:30] >> and change.
[41:31] >> Yeah.
[41:31] >> And I wound up becoming this version of
[41:35] me professionally because she passed.
[41:38] >> Yeah.
[41:39] >> And that's a hard statement to actually
[41:43] like say, but it's true.
[41:45] >> Yeah.
[41:45] >> It is. Like I could say at 57 now, like
[41:48] that was a hard experience to kind of go
[41:51] through.
[41:51] >> Yeah.
[41:51] >> You know, the 19-year-old version of me
[41:53] didn't want to hear that. My guys told
[41:54] me when right after she passed that my
[41:57] mom was done learning the lessons that
[41:58] she came into this lifetime to learn so
[42:00] I could become the person that I needed
[42:01] to become.
[42:02] >> Who the hell cared? Like
[42:04] >> I was 20. It was like that did not
[42:08] >> who cared?
[42:10] >> I care now.
[42:11] >> I I could look back on the last 30 some
[42:13] odd years and say a lot of people were
[42:16] healed as a result of her passing. It
[42:18] wasn't for nothing. It was an
[42:21] opportunity. It was a catalystic moment
[42:23] of transformative opportunities to heal
[42:26] >> and as a result of her being here on
[42:28] earth at the time that she was for the
[42:30] time that she was because she was she
[42:32] was your guide. She was encouraging you.
[42:34] She was holding that space for you.
[42:37] >> I love that's such a beautiful way of
[42:38] looking at things.
[42:39] >> Now I have some questions specifically
[42:43] from my coaching communities. My Gabby
[42:45] coaching members, they love to send in
[42:47] specific questions. We let them know
[42:48] who's coming on the show so they have
[42:50] specific questions too. Here we go. If
[42:51] you think you're hearing a no and you're
[42:54] not sure, what do you do?
[42:56] >> I would sit with that and I would
[42:59] logically explore the reason why the no
[43:01] came in and I would play chess.
[43:04] >> Okay.
[43:04] >> So, I call it energetic chess.
[43:06] >> Right?
[43:07] >> If I do this, what are the things that
[43:09] can come from it? If I do this, what are
[43:11] the things that can come from this? So,
[43:13] yes, it's it's pretty much logical
[43:15] thinking with an energetic overlay.
[43:17] >> Okay. I'm looking to look down what's
[43:20] called the line of probability
[43:23] and see what the projection is. Let me
[43:25] explain. So, if you're working with
[43:28] tarot and if you're looking at
[43:30] astrology, if you're but specifically in
[43:31] tarot because that's like the tool that
[43:33] I used still use. Um, I don't like the
[43:36] word prediction because a prediction
[43:38] makes it feel like, well, this is
[43:39] happening and I feel like the future
[43:41] isn't written and I feel like what we're
[43:43] looking at on the line of probability of
[43:45] where we are today, if everything
[43:47] continues, this is the projection.
[43:50] Projections we can shift, projections,
[43:52] we can maybe implement a a change,
[43:55] right? Or maybe we could stop something.
[43:57] But either way, I'm looking at that line
[43:58] of probability. I'm looking down what
[44:00] what's coming up. I'm going to look at
[44:02] that line of probability in an energetic
[44:04] game of chess and try to figure out what
[44:08] that no means and what else can come
[44:11] from that. And that's just how my brain
[44:12] works. I'm just going to be looking for
[44:14] like, well, why is it a no?
[44:16] >> Okay.
[44:16] >> Right. And what is it stopping me from?
[44:18] And
[44:18] >> is it kind of like playing it out to the
[44:20] end?
[44:21] >> No, I think it's it's making sure that I
[44:22] don't miss stuff.
[44:23] >> Okay.
[44:24] >> Right. So if if we look at how cryptic
[44:28] the information actually is that they
[44:30] give us and that's where I always like
[44:32] to when I talk to other practitioners
[44:34] I'm like take your clients on the
[44:37] journey with you explain your process
[44:39] let them understand that you're not
[44:41] having this open conversation with you
[44:45] know English dialogue right you're
[44:47] getting feelings that you're
[44:48] interpreting you're getting a word
[44:50] you're getting a thought you're getting
[44:50] a picture because then it helps your
[44:53] like your viewer or your audience, your
[44:55] people know like, well, that's how
[44:57] they're going to get it, too.
[44:58] >> And keep your human ego out of it so
[45:01] that you're not creating a narrative of
[45:02] what you want. Allow it just to be what
[45:05] the data is, right? Here's what the
[45:06] symbol is. They showed me this and now
[45:08] we have to figure out what the this is.
[45:11] That's where my interpretation comes in
[45:12] where now I'm looking at that line of
[45:14] probability. So, they're telling me,
[45:15] well, no, if I don't do that,
[45:18] >> what's the ripple effect of that no
[45:20] mean? M
[45:21] >> cuz sometimes they're giving you more
[45:23] information in that no than you're
[45:26] looking at.
[45:26] >> So you get the no and you say, "Okay, if
[45:29] I don't do that or if I stay away from
[45:32] this or if I avoid this, what does that
[45:34] mean? What's the byproduct? What's the
[45:36] product?
[45:36] >> That's cool. That's so cool."
[45:37] >> Because I think there's always more
[45:38] information in things.
[45:41] >> Or do you ever look at it? Sorry to
[45:42] interrupt you, but do you ever look at
[45:43] it from the standpoint of if I do do
[45:46] that, what's the byproduct?
[45:47] >> Same. That's how my brain, that's how my
[45:48] brain works. I'm looking at what the
[45:51] what's the ripple effect
[45:53] >> like when something happens
[45:54] >> because I think that there's more
[45:55] information that's giving that that's
[45:57] being given to us if we look at it
[45:59] deeper just not at face value.
[46:01] >> There's more information being given to
[46:03] us if we look at it deeper. We have
[46:04] >> so sometimes I'll get information and
[46:08] it's a weird example. It's one that's
[46:10] popping in my head though. Many years
[46:12] ago, I doing doing a group at a
[46:13] metaphysical bookstore in Florida and
[46:16] I'm reading for a group of people and I
[46:18] said to this woman, "You have an aunt
[46:21] that passed. She was on the Titanic."
[46:25] >> And she said, "She was." And then I got
[46:27] her last name. I got like her name.
[46:30] Validated the experience that this was
[46:31] the ant that was actually on the
[46:32] Titanic.
[46:33] >> Turned out that the Titanic um exhibit
[46:35] was like touring Florida at the time.
[46:37] So, I was able to actually go to the
[46:40] exhibit and see her name on the wall.
[46:42] >> That's cool, John.
[46:43] >> But the cool part for me was the aunt
[46:45] said she died of a heart attack.
[46:47] >> So, she gave me her passing was a heart
[46:51] attack. So, what does that tell you? She
[46:55] didn't pass on the boat.
[46:56] >> I was like, "Wait, your aunt was a
[46:58] survivor."
[46:59] >> Mhm.
[46:59] >> And she goes, "She was a survivor."
[47:02] >> I said, "I know she's a survivor because
[47:03] she's telling me she passed from heart
[47:04] issues. Mhm.
[47:06] >> She didn't pass on the boat,
[47:07] >> right?
[47:08] >> But she didn't tell me I didn't pass on
[47:09] the boat. But her telling me that she
[47:12] had heart problems.
[47:13] >> Y
[47:14] >> was now my way of looking at the
[47:16] information and extrapolating. Oh, so if
[47:19] she died of a heart problem, that means
[47:20] she survived the boat.
[47:21] >> You're in the metaphysical lab. Putting
[47:23] it all together. Put it all together.
[47:25] What happens when we ignore a no from
[47:28] our guides?
[47:30] Your face. [laughter]
[47:33] >> [gasps]
[47:34] >> Uh, so I can only speak for myself. I I
[47:36] I don't know.
[47:37] >> Um, I call it getting slammed.
[47:40] >> Yeah.
[47:41] >> Like I legitimately refer to as being
[47:43] getting slammed. And because
[47:45] >> I have had so many of those moments,
[47:48] >> it was very easy for me to cancel
[47:50] Entertainment Tonight.
[47:51] >> Yeah.
[47:51] >> Because I was like, no,
[47:53] >> I'd rather disappoint Entertainment
[47:55] Tonight and the book company
[47:56] >> Y
[47:57] >> than them. Y
[47:58] >> cuz I don't want I don't want to get
[47:59] slammed,
[47:59] >> right? Um, so I I just know that there's
[48:02] a repercussion.
[48:02] >> There is a for me.
[48:05] >> Yeah,
[48:05] >> I've seen it. I've seen it.
[48:07] >> And again, this all comes down to ego. I
[48:09] think when we're dealing with spiritual
[48:10] practices,
[48:12] the human ego is the thing that gets in
[48:15] the way of our development, our ongoing
[48:19] development. Um, when people think that
[48:22] they have the answers, they stop
[48:24] learning. Y
[48:24] >> like 41 years in, I am still a student
[48:27] of the universe, willing to learn. M
[48:29] >> I want to be better than I was
[48:30] yesterday.
[48:31] >> Yes, I love you. You're so cool, John.
[48:34] Okay,
[48:34] >> so sometimes the nos come in in the
[48:36] absence of information. So when you're
[48:38] really really developed and you have a
[48:40] good relationship and a dynamic with
[48:42] your guides, you're used to information
[48:44] coming in in a certain way. And so for
[48:46] example, in the last year, I kind of
[48:48] revealed that I was helping an FBI agent
[48:50] on like his cases for like for 30 years.
[48:52] Thank you. And there were moments that
[48:55] that relationship taught me new aspects
[48:58] about how my guides work.
[48:59] >> Because if I was reading for somebody
[49:01] and they said, you know, is my boyfriend
[49:03] going to leave his wife finally? If they
[49:06] gave me an answer like no.
[49:08] >> Yeah.
[49:08] >> If that client tried to ask me that
[49:10] question two different ways cuz they
[49:12] didn't like my answer, I got nothing.
[49:15] >> Got it.
[49:15] >> Like there was no additional
[49:18] enlightenment.
[49:20] No other way of saying it. It's like,
[49:22] no, they already answered that. And I
[49:24] noticed that working with Robert Hillen
[49:25] on the book, there was a moment where he
[49:28] would ask the question differently. And
[49:31] they did give me more information. And I
[49:33] found that fascinating cuz that was
[49:35] different for me.
[49:36] >> And I was like, why are they answering
[49:38] him?
[49:38] >> Like, what's so special about him that
[49:40] they're actually giving me more
[49:41] information? Cuz there was a couple
[49:43] moments where I would say to him, yeah,
[49:44] Bob, they already answered that.
[49:46] >> Yeah.
[49:46] >> And then more information came through
[49:48] and then I was like,
[49:49] >> okay, what is this? M
[49:51] >> like why are they giving him more
[49:52] information?
[49:52] >> Interesting.
[49:53] >> So I think it has to do also with the
[49:55] intention. His intention was objective.
[49:58] His intention was not personal. His
[50:00] intention was not coming from a place of
[50:02] what about me? It was from that at all.
[50:04] He was coming from a place of universal
[50:07] truth. He was looking for facts. He was
[50:09] looking for insights. And I think that
[50:11] also came into play. But there have been
[50:13] moments for me personally where I'll be
[50:15] like I don't really understand why this
[50:17] is not happening. M
[50:18] >> like when we get to a place in life
[50:21] where logic doesn't logic then I'm
[50:26] always like well there's a metaphysical
[50:28] reason why this is happening.
[50:29] >> Mhm.
[50:30] >> So let's go to them.
[50:31] >> Let's go to them.
[50:32] >> Let's go to them. Yeah.
[50:33] >> And when they don't answer I find that
[50:35] fascinating.
[50:35] >> Yeah.
[50:36] >> I find it like okay so there's a
[50:37] learning experience here.
[50:39] >> So we're going to do a practice now with
[50:40] John. What do we what are we doing here?
[50:42] >> We all live based upon our schedules.
[50:45] >> Yeah.
[50:45] >> And we plan our lives sometimes a month
[50:47] in advance. sometimes two months in
[50:48] advance. Some people have to plan their
[50:50] lives 12 months in advance. But it's not
[50:52] the norm that people are going to plan a
[50:54] year in advance. So whatever date today
[50:56] is that you're listening or watching
[50:58] this, I want you to write down today's
[51:01] date, but the next year. So if you're
[51:04] listening to this in 2026, I want it to
[51:06] be today's date 2027.
[51:08] >> If you're listening or watching this as
[51:10] a replay in 2027, I want you to do it as
[51:14] 2028. But whatever the date is.
[51:16] >> Yeah. And I want you to go into your
[51:17] calendar on this date and I want you to
[51:21] write down five or six things that your
[51:24] guides are showing you to validate that
[51:27] they gave it to you a year in advance.
[51:29] >> Okay?
[51:29] >> And what this does is it gives you the
[51:31] ability to kind of project into your own
[51:35] future.
[51:35] >> Here's what's coming up for you. And it
[51:38] may be like five things that make random
[51:41] no sense. It could be like, you know, a
[51:44] red a red fire engine. It could be a
[51:47] blue police car. Whatever the thing is,
[51:49] no matter how ridiculous it is, I want
[51:51] you to write it down.
[51:52] >> Because what it's doing is it's giving
[51:53] you the opportunity to take your
[51:55] consciousness and fast forward it to a
[51:58] year from now.
[51:59] >> And don't be logical. Don't try to
[52:01] connect it to what you're doing now. Ask
[52:03] them to show you things about where
[52:05] you're going to be. More than likely,
[52:07] you're going to forget that you did this
[52:08] exercise.
[52:10] And then next year at this time, this is
[52:12] going to pop up on your calendar. And
[52:14] how cool would it be for you to report
[52:16] back to you to say, I did this exercise
[52:19] and here's what I wrote and here's where
[52:21] I'm at.
[52:21] >> Love it.
[52:22] >> It's such a cool it's such a it's a
[52:23] great validation.
[52:24] >> Yep. And is it the sign that we saw or
[52:27] is it the experience that we had or
[52:29] >> It's whatever it is that they show you.
[52:30] >> Okay. Okay. Okay.
[52:31] >> Cuz they're going to they're going to
[52:32] tell you.
[52:32] >> So you're asking them on this day, show
[52:34] me five things.
[52:34] >> Yep. Show me five things.
[52:36] >> Dude, so cool. I love that. John is the
[52:37] best. This was such a beautiful episode.
[52:39] And John's new book is really cool. It's
[52:42] called Chasing Evil: Shocking Crimes:
[52:44] Supernatural Forces and the FBI agents
[52:47] Search for Hope and Justice. It is a
[52:49] very cool cool book. We've just put it
[52:51] at the link below this video. And if you
[52:53] want to go deeper right now and you want
[52:55] to really start to establish your
[52:57] spiritual connection of really letting
[52:58] go of what it is that you're controlling
[53:00] and allowing that guidance and wisdom to
[53:02] move through you, go to
[53:03] deargaby.comfreemeditation
[53:06] for a guided practice that will help you
[53:09] get grounded in your sense of truth.
[53:11] Again, we'll put that at the link in the
[53:12] show notes and in the link in the
[53:14] description. Finally, we've got this
[53:17] show going on the road. We'll be in New
[53:19] York City, Dear Guides Live. We are
[53:22] going to be live in New York on November
[53:25] 21st with Rebecca Rosen, John Holland,
[53:28] Bradley Valentine, and Maryanne DeMarco
[53:30] live on stage bringing this show to you
[53:33] in real life. It is going to be
[53:35] absolutely beautiful. They're limited
[53:37] spots. So go to deargaby.comguides
[53:40] live. I love you guys. I am deeply proud
[53:44] of you for sticking around to the end of
[53:45] this episode. I know, John, that this is
[53:47] going to be one of the best episodes
[53:49] we've ever done because you just have so
[53:50] many good tools. so much great great
[53:52] knowledge and you are now in your
[53:54] metaphysical lab friends. Allow yourself
[53:57] to take these practices even if it's
[53:59] just one of them and use it religiously.
[54:02] Make it a practice. Get it into your
[54:03] system and witness the miracles. I love
[54:06] you. I'll see you next week.
[54:08] If you like this video, you're going to
[54:10] love my video on how to hear your spirit
[54:12] guides in five easy steps.