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Inspiration

The Three Flavors of Suffering: Why Satisfaction Never Stays

Scott Tusa
Scott Tusa
Nov 11, 2026
8 Min. Lesezeit

Von Scott Tusa

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Samsara circles. The word itself means "to circle," and if you've lived any conscious life at all, you already know the pattern: you want something, you get it, it fades or changes, and you're left hunting for the next thing. The Buddha's teachings on samsara—the cycle of suffering and dissatisfaction—aren't metaphysical claims about distant realms. They're invitations to look at how experience actually works, right now, in the body and mind you're living with. This fourth reflection of the four thoughts that turn the mind toward the dharma is less about cosmology and more about waking up to the mechanism that keeps us spinning.

In traditional Buddhist teaching, samsara is mapped as six realms of existence—god realms, jealous god realms, human realms, animal realms, hungry ghost realms, and hell realms—each characterized by different qualities of suffering. But as Scott Tusa explains in this teaching, the essential point isn't the realms themselves. It's the circling. The inability to land, the perpetual sense that solid ground keeps shifting. "Not knowing where to land, not knowing where is solid ground where we can put our feet where the rug is not going to be pulled out from under us"—that's samsara in the language of lived experience. Whether you take the six realms as literal cosmology, metaphorical maps of psychological states, or neither, the inner mechanics remain the same.

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The Three Textures of Dukkha

Rather than spiral into debates about whether rebirth is metaphysical or psychological, Tusa pivots to what can be directly observed: the three types of dukkha, or suffering/dissatisfaction. Each has its own flavor, and each appears in ordinary life if we're paying attention.

The first is obvious suffering—pain, loss, unwanted experience, the sting of rejection, the body in agony. This one needs no explanation. Everyone knows what it is to hurt. We move away from it; we seek relief. The mechanism is clear and urgent.

The second is subtler and often more interesting to contemplate: the pleasure that fades. Here's the trap. You have something wonderful—a meal you love, time with someone you adore, a moment of recognition. It's genuine. It's real. And then, the longer you stay with it, something happens. The very thing that brought delight begins to wear thin. "When we had a very enjoyable experience," Tusa notes, "and yet it wasn't enough and we want it again or we want more, or we are satisfied for a period of time and then we become dissatisfied and want something else." The enjoyment hasn't left—it's just become insufficient. You want more of it, or you want something else entirely. The satisfaction was always going to expire, and its expiration is built into the very nature of seeking pleasure as a solution.

This is why Tusa frames the second dukkha in terms of what people often miss: "The relief that fades the longer we stay with it." It's not that the good thing turned bad. It's that the good thing couldn't hold you. You couldn't rest in it. The mind, by its nature, keeps seeking.

The third is the hardest to see: the dissatisfaction woven into impermanence itself. Even in moments of relative peace—even when nothing is explicitly wrong—there's an underlying discontent, a kind of quietness that "never quite lets us rest." Tusa describes it with an image: sitting down after standing, standing after sitting. The body knows relief when it changes position. But that relief is temporary. Even when you finally sit, you've already begun to be aware that you'll eventually need to stand. The comfort in one state contains the seed of its own undoing. This is pervasive dissatisfaction—not because something is painful or even unpleasant, but because all conditioned things are impermanent, and on some deep level, the mind knows this and cannot settle.

The Search for an "Ultimate Out"

What holds samsara together, what keeps the wheel spinning, is a fundamental mistake about how freedom works. Tusa describes it as exhaustion with "the search for an ultimate out—a place where dissatisfaction, pain, and heartbreak never return." We believe there's a solution, a place we can get to, a thing we can have or achieve, after which we will finally be safe. And under that belief, we spend our lives seeking.

The goal of reflecting on samsara's defects isn't to become gloomy or nihilistic. It's to develop what Tusa calls an "exhaustion with the causes of suffering" and to redirect that energy toward understanding the actual causes of freedom. As he says: "We are constantly seeking an out from that whether we think we are or not." The first work is simply to notice that we're seeking—always seeking. Seeking the next experience, seeking an escape from this one, seeking assurance that we'll be okay. Once we see that pattern clearly, we can ask: Is this working? Does the search itself become the samsara?

Importantly, Tusa doesn't suggest that you stop trying to improve your life or solve real problems. "I'm not saying don't try to improve your life and situation," he clarifies. The point is to distinguish between intelligent action and the mechanism of compulsive seeking that assumes there's an ultimate solution waiting. The two are not the same.

How to Work with This Without Buying the Whole Map

A natural resistance arises when teachings invoke cosmologies that feel foreign or unprovable. Six realms? Rebirth? Hungry ghosts? For many practitioners in Western contexts, these concepts feel like they belong to a different era or belief system entirely. Tusa names this directly: "There's a huge allergy towards reflecting on anything outside of what we can see or perceive," and he acknowledges it without dismissal.

His pragmatic approach: take what resonates. Leave the rest. The six realms can function as a teaching tool—a way of seeing that different mental and emotional states have their own flavors of suffering, their own inherent limitations. Tusa describes the animal realm as "less suffering and more basic instinct," the hungry ghost realm as perpetual hunger and thirst that can never be satisfied, the hell realm as "extremely destructive actions" meeting their consequences. But you don't have to accept them as literal other worlds to work with the principle: different mental states have different qualities of suffering, and none of them are a place to rest.

The teaching invites you to see samsara "as an inside job." The circling is psychological. The rug being pulled out happens in the body and heart. The search for an ultimate solution is the mechanism you can observe in your own mind right now.

The Practice: Sitting with Change

To make this teaching land not just as idea but as embodied understanding, Tusa closes with a simple but potent analytical meditation and resting practice. The focus is dukkha as it appears in the most ordinary action: sitting, then standing, then sitting again.

The practice is direct. Notice what happens when you sit after standing for a while. There's relief—the legs rest, the body settles. But stay with it. Keep sitting. At some point, sitting is no longer the solution. You want to stand. The very position that brought relief becomes the position you want to escape. Stand, then sit again. Watch the mind's engagement: relief, then discontent, then the seeking for the next position. There's no moment where you finally arrive and stay. This is dukkha of change—not pain, but the impossibility of finding a lasting home in any condition.

Tusa encourages sitting with this observation: not analyzing it endlessly, but allowing it to land in the body. "So I'll watch my mind engaging with this," he says, "bringing forth a time when you can remember finding a place of perfection anymore." The practice isn't about achieving a conclusion. It's about seeing directly, moment to moment, that impermanence is operating. That the search is operating. And that noticing this, without struggle, is the beginning of freedom.

Where to Go from Here

This fourth reflection completes the cycle of the four thoughts that turn the mind toward the dharma. From here, the path traditionally moves into refuge—a turning toward the Buddha, the Dharma, and the Sangha as the actual causes of liberation, rather than the endless seeking that characterizes samsara. But that's a later teaching. For now, the invitation is simple: look at how you're circling. Notice where you're seeking an ultimate out. Watch what happens when the relief you found stops being sufficient. Don't accept these observations as doctrine. Test them. Live with them. See if they match your actual experience. That's how a teaching becomes real—not through belief, but through inquiry.

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[0:00] So, we've arrived at the fourth uh

[0:04] thought of the four thoughts that turn

[0:06] the mind towards the dharma in this

[0:09] little minieries that I've been doing on

[0:11] them. And uh this uh fourth thought we

[0:15] often describe as reflecting on the

[0:18] defects of samsara as a whole. And even

[0:21] though in practice the four thoughts

[0:23] that turn the mind aren't necessarily

[0:25] linear when we study them uh this fourth

[0:28] one is is centered as last of the four

[0:32] often because it leads into taking uh

[0:35] refuge in the three jewels the Buddha

[0:37] Dharma Sana and then uh moving into

[0:41] bodhicitta

[0:42] uh from there and the rest of the path.

[0:45] So, as I've said before in my

[0:47] introduction as well as some of the

[0:49] other videos, each of these four

[0:51] thoughts that turn the mind towards the

[0:53] dharma has a very specific way it's um

[0:56] helping us to see something new about

[0:59] ourselves uh life and the world around

[1:01] us. Um they also have a very specific um

[1:05] uh or I should say specific plural

[1:08] things that get evoked through the

[1:11] reflection and meditation on these. And

[1:14] just a quick reminder uh normally we do

[1:16] apply these in the three ways that we

[1:19] apply to most dharma uh which is

[1:22] learning, reflection and meditation. And

[1:24] so often when we struggle with something

[1:27] or we don't understand it, it it's a

[1:29] sign we need to just study a little bit

[1:31] more and learn about it. And then in

[1:33] reflection is when we get to work out um

[1:36] our disagreements, our biases, maybe uh

[1:39] not quite sure if we agree or find it

[1:42] valuable. Right? So again, uh just as

[1:46] I've been uh portraying throughout, you

[1:49] know, this whole little minieries here,

[1:51] um the goal is not to believe something

[1:53] necessarily. Um more I would say an

[1:56] important part of the four thoughts that

[1:58] turn the mind towards the dharma is a

[2:00] reflection that we can bring in to

[2:02] deepen our experience of reality to

[2:04] deepen our experience of the dharma.

[2:07] also as I pointed out as a way to grow

[2:11] more of a sense sense of exhaustion with

[2:13] the causes of suffering and and

[2:15] therefore move the mind more towards the

[2:17] causes of liberation and awakening and

[2:19] these four thoughts are you know pretty

[2:21] embedded in in a more um quote religious

[2:25] approach to the dharma though I don't

[2:27] know it doesn't really

[2:29] sit like that for me personally but

[2:31] again it's been many years uh studying

[2:33] reflecting on meditating on these four

[2:35] thoughts and um deriving some benefit um

[2:40] which has helped me a lot uh not only in

[2:43] my practice but in just how I meet life

[2:44] and meet my uh delusion and meet my

[2:47] destructive emotions and and and you

[2:50] know confused mind all of that. So that

[2:53] that I will say that that takes some

[2:54] time. It's not immediate and as I've

[2:57] said earlier you know we we go at our

[3:00] own pace. We go slow. There's no rush.

[3:03] Um it's just about keeping an open mind.

[3:05] It's not about, you know, developing a

[3:07] new belief system right away

[3:08] necessarily, right? And again, in

[3:10] Buddhism as a whole, my whole

[3:12] perspective is that it's not about

[3:14] belief in and of itself. We already have

[3:16] lots of beliefs. Um, it's about

[3:18] understanding why we believe what we

[3:20] believe. Um, reflecting on that, drawing

[3:23] out uh fallacies or faults in that,

[3:25] drawing out truths or deepening truths.

[3:28] And the same thing applies here, right?

[3:30] A lot of people when it comes to a more

[3:32] spiritual religious path um they they

[3:36] sort of first look at it as as a set of

[3:38] beliefs. No, it's a set of prompts. It's

[3:40] a set of you know trying to see uh in a

[3:43] deeper way how the mind works, how the

[3:46] causes of suffering and the causes of

[3:47] happiness work and how to remove the

[3:49] causes of suffering, right? Um that's at

[3:52] least the premise in in Buddha Dharma.

[3:54] >> [clears throat]

[3:55] >> With that said, of course, there's a lot

[3:57] of temporary beliefs that are difficult

[3:59] to prove empirically or difficult to

[4:02] even make sense of right away. And we're

[4:04] going to encounter some of those uh in a

[4:06] moment. So, that's all just to encourage

[4:08] um taking this stuff at at at you know,

[4:10] at a pace that's uh sane for us as well

[4:14] as uh keeping an open mind, but also um

[4:17] bringing some skepticism is okay. But

[4:20] skepticism, skepticism can turn into uh

[4:23] doubt and solidify into doubt when we

[4:25] stop learning, when we stop inquiring.

[4:27] So essentially, we can look at these as

[4:30] um prompts for inquiry. Right? That's

[4:32] another way to look at them.

[4:35] But with that said, let's go ahead into

[4:37] um this this fourth and final uh uh

[4:40] reflection uh of the four thoughts that

[4:42] turn the mind towards the dharma. And

[4:44] this one, as I said, is on the the

[4:46] defects of samsara. So what is samsara?

[4:49] Samsara can be explained quite plainly

[4:52] um and it can also be explained um

[4:57] profoundly, right? Uh and so in my

[5:01] experience of of studying and

[5:03] understanding my own samsaric nature or

[5:06] my own samsaric confusion,

[5:08] the deeper more profound aspects of it

[5:10] are sometimes not not even visible until

[5:12] we just face and work with uh the more

[5:15] more easily seen. So one way uh to think

[5:19] of samsara is is in the definition of of

[5:23] what it what it can mean literally which

[5:25] is just to circle right and so one

[5:28] expression of that we're going to uh

[5:30] look at within this fourth thought is

[5:33] circling throughout the six realms of

[5:35] samsara or or taking existence or birth

[5:39] in in these six realms again and again

[5:41] and that's not a linear thing it's not a

[5:44] um I don't know uh yes there's kind of a

[5:47] hierarchy key to the realms, but it's a

[5:48] circling, right? And and that's what I

[5:50] want to keep that's what I want to keep

[5:52] centered as the main point here because

[5:55] it's not the realms in themselves. It's

[5:58] the never- ending circling and not

[6:00] knowing how to get out and essentially

[6:02] just circling between um more states of

[6:06] existence, more states of of various

[6:09] kinds of duka or dissatisfaction uh and

[6:12] suffering and primarily just being

[6:15] confused about what are the causes of

[6:18] freedom and liberation, what are the

[6:20] causes of suffering and therefore

[6:22] circling. So that's one way uh uh that

[6:24] that samsara is typically described

[6:27] embodied in these six realms of

[6:29] existence which we'll get to in a

[6:31] moment.

[6:32] Um another way to think of it which

[6:34] sometimes for especially for those of us

[6:36] who just we have a huge all allergy

[6:38] towards reflecting on anything outside

[6:40] of what we can see or perceive. Um which

[6:44] I understand. Um and in that way we can

[6:47] think of samsara as circling moment to

[6:49] moment in just not knowing where to

[6:52] land, not knowing you know where where

[6:55] to where is solid ground where we can

[6:56] put our feet where the rug is not going

[6:59] to be pulled out from under us. Right?

[7:02] And what I mean by that is this can be

[7:04] as big as sort of clinging to permanence

[7:07] unconsciously and then something changes

[7:10] uh dramatically and it it just really

[7:12] throws us off in our life and we don't

[7:14] know how to recover from that and um

[7:17] this happens to all of us right and

[7:18] there's nothing wrong with you or me for

[7:20] it happening but this is a mechanism of

[7:22] samsara so that could be one way of

[7:25] talking about pulling the rug out

[7:27] another way is just sort of life and

[7:30] change and unwanted things um happening

[7:34] all the time and a lack of control. We

[7:36] cannot control suffering. We cannot

[7:39] control dissatisfaction, right? And of

[7:41] course, this is frustrating for most of

[7:44] us to say the least. And a lot of us are

[7:48] constantly seeking an out from that

[7:50] whether we think we are or not. So this

[7:52] is often what I would say the first

[7:54] place to look. Are we always seeking

[7:58] something else? Right? And that could be

[8:00] as simple as uh we had um something very

[8:05] a very enjoyable time, a very enjoyable

[8:07] experience and yet it wasn't enough and

[8:09] we want it again or we want more or we

[8:12] are satisfied for a period of time and

[8:13] then we become dissatisfied and want

[8:15] something else. Right? Um you know

[8:18] that's one example. Of course, another

[8:21] example and a little bit more easily

[8:23] seen is when we directly do not like an

[8:26] experience. When we really want to get

[8:28] away from it and we are looking to

[8:31] avoid, get away,

[8:34] solve all of that. Right now, I'm not

[8:38] saying don't try to solve your problems.

[8:40] I'm not saying don't try to improve your

[8:43] life and situation and and and you know,

[8:45] the life of others around you. That's

[8:47] not the point. The point is the

[8:49] mechanism of seeking some kind of

[8:51] solution in and of itself that there's

[8:53] going to be a solution, an ultimate

[8:55] solution where we never will experience

[8:57] dissatisfaction, pain,

[9:00] heartbreak again. Right? And that is a

[9:04] delusion. That is not true. Now that's

[9:07] also something we need to discover for

[9:10] ourselves. That so that's also part of

[9:12] the reflection on the defects of

[9:14] samsara, right? I would call that a

[9:15] little bit more of the inner reflection.

[9:17] And that's where I'm going to focus

[9:18] today. The outer reflection is actually

[9:20] us usually where they start more in the

[9:22] embodiment of what samsara looks like um

[9:25] both in human realms and outside of

[9:27] human realms. But as I've seen in in for

[9:30] modern seekers, uh this is tough because

[9:33] it it seems like you know someone's

[9:35] trying to shove a religious view uh

[9:37] about something you know some other kind

[9:39] of fantasy down your throat. So again, I

[9:42] understand that sentiment. So we can

[9:44] reorder the process of how we're looking

[9:46] at samsara. Right? So that's what I'm

[9:48] doing here. But with that said, it

[9:50] doesn't mean we don't want to go back at

[9:52] some point and work with the outer

[9:54] representation of it either because it

[9:56] doesn't mean just because we don't

[9:57] believe it or we think it's fantasy that

[9:59] it's not true. That those that logic

[10:02] does not add up. Right? Just saying.

[10:04] Right? So I'll just name them and then

[10:07] we can move on quickly to more a more

[10:09] inner reflection uh on the nature of

[10:11] samsara or the defects of samsara. And

[10:14] so the outer reflection as I said is on

[10:16] these six realms. So two of them we can

[10:18] see and one of them we have direct

[10:19] experience of. So uh the human realm

[10:23] which in itself is quite a variety right

[10:25] we know can be lots of highs can be lots

[10:28] of lows uh can be sort of godlike

[10:33] experiences of uh wealth and opulence

[10:37] and pleasure and hell-like experiences

[10:40] uh of of extreme hunger pain war etc. We

[10:43] know the human realm has this this big

[10:46] display a vast array of experience.

[10:50] Um so that's one of the six realms.

[10:52] Another one uh which we consider

[10:54] slightly um below um human realm and not

[10:57] below in that animals are unworthy or

[11:00] not to be loved or not or give

[11:02] permission in any way to dominate them.

[11:04] That's not the point. The point is more

[11:06] the perspective on how um the body

[11:08] itself like the makeup of the aggregates

[11:11] allow dharma to be practiced. That's

[11:14] really the only hierarchy uh I've seen.

[11:17] So, so this second realm is the animal

[11:19] realm which we can see and it's much

[11:21] more vast than the human realm cuz we're

[11:23] talking not only dogs and cats and pets,

[11:26] we're talking wild animals, um, insects,

[11:30] fish, you know, just the trillions upon

[11:35] trillions of [clears throat] sea

[11:38] creatures, right? So, we're talking

[11:39] about something massive, much larger

[11:42] than the human realm. It can seem like

[11:45] the human realm in our world um is large

[11:48] with it, you know, 8 billion and

[11:49] climbing uh people in the world. Um but

[11:52] the animal realm, if you just think

[11:54] about it or you watch some animal shows,

[11:56] you know, or you just research it a

[11:58] little bit, it's I don't even know it's

[12:00] there's even a number to count the

[12:02] amount of animals in the world. And

[12:04] that's just talking about this world,

[12:06] right?

[12:07] um there, you know, I'm not going to get

[12:09] into any sort of theories here, but but

[12:11] it's a large universe and most likely

[12:13] there's other kinds of humanlike beings

[12:15] and or animals. So that's that's two of

[12:17] the realms, right? And so usually how we

[12:19] organize this is into the three higher

[12:21] realms and the three lower realms.

[12:22] Again, higher and lower just has to do

[12:24] more with less suffering and more

[12:26] freedom uh to practice dharma. So the

[12:28] human realm as we already discussed in

[12:30] the first of the four thoughts and

[12:31] precious human birth, the human realm is

[12:35] the most helpful for practicing dharma

[12:37] because we have just enough suffering

[12:40] that we feel dissatisfied but not too

[12:42] much suffering uh where we can't do

[12:45] something about it where um in the

[12:47] animal realms most animals don't have

[12:49] the capacity uh to to investigate that.

[12:53] Now again that might depend on the type

[12:55] of animal and things like that. I'm not

[12:57] going to get into the weeds here, but

[12:58] we're just talking generally.

[13:01] So, a human realm would be the first of

[13:03] the three higher realms. Uh, the animal

[13:05] realm would be the first of the three

[13:06] lower realms. Um, so the three the other

[13:10] two higher realms are um often expressed

[13:13] as deva realms. And deva is a tricky

[13:17] word to um

[13:20] it's a tricky word to translate because

[13:21] it kind of translates as like it can

[13:23] translate as god realms but it's not

[13:25] like god like the god or theistic god or

[13:27] something like that. It's more like

[13:29] beings who um are are godlike and and

[13:32] probably the closest thing we have in

[13:34] western culture to this is is like you

[13:37] know Greek and Roman gods like all those

[13:39] stories and myths and all of that. um

[13:43] very similar to the way they think of

[13:44] the dev realms in Indic cosmology as

[13:47] well. Um and there's there's there's

[13:50] basically there's many types of deva

[13:52] realms, but there's two kinds that make

[13:54] up the other two of the higher realms.

[13:57] One is called the the form, you know,

[13:59] the the the god realm or the deva realm

[14:01] with form where they have some kind of a

[14:03] body or light body. Um and then there's

[14:06] there's a dev realm where there's no

[14:08] there's no body, there's just mind. And

[14:11] those are the highest realms or the

[14:13] picos I'm sorry where someone can often

[14:16] uh someone can often attain those

[14:17] through um

[14:20] concentration meditation alone where

[14:23] their mind becomes very very focused and

[14:25] then they're accumulating the karma to

[14:27] take birth there. Anyways, I'm just

[14:30] giving you some of the co cosmology,

[14:32] right? I'm just repeating you don't have

[14:33] to believe any of this necessarily. Just

[14:35] giving you the cosmology.

[14:38] So that would be the the three higher

[14:40] realms. Human uh deva realm with form,

[14:43] deva realm without form, meaning no body

[14:45] or anything like that, just

[14:46] consciousness.

[14:48] Now the three lower realms I already

[14:49] named the animal realm. Then we have

[14:51] something called the preto realm. Uh

[14:52] often this is translated as a hungry as

[14:55] a hungry ghost. Um it's it's it's it's

[14:58] an okay translation but it's a difficult

[15:00] RAM to describe because these kinds of

[15:03] beings we we can't generally see uh

[15:05] throughout Indic throughout history in

[15:07] India and and Buddhist history and Hindu

[15:09] history some people can actually

[15:11] interact with these pto beings um and um

[15:14] they're not animals uh they're not like

[15:16] ghosts in the way we would normally

[15:18] think of as a ghost but they're beings

[15:20] with extreme difficulty in receiving

[15:23] food and getting proper shelter. They

[15:26] suffer from a lot of problems with heat,

[15:28] a lot of problems with cold. Um not able

[15:31] to drink liquid or or eat. So there's a

[15:34] lot of um physical [clears throat] pain

[15:35] in that sense. And there are also lots

[15:38] of different kinds of predas. Um not all

[15:40] of them are exactly that. But it is

[15:43] considered a realm with a lot of

[15:45] suffering and and so much so that it's

[15:48] very difficult to practice dharma from

[15:49] within that realm and to you know

[15:51] liberate oneself and others. Now, the

[15:55] last of them um often becomes one of the

[15:58] more triggering ones for people because

[16:00] if we grew up with Judeo-Christian

[16:02] traditions and we grow up specifically

[16:04] with ones uh where we were taught about

[16:07] um hell very early on or or or it was

[16:09] used as a punishment technique to get us

[16:12] to behave. Um sometimes we can have

[16:14] strong reactions to um that you know

[16:17] that in Buddhism in in Indic cosmology

[16:20] they also uh say there are hell realms

[16:22] uh that can um we can be born into. You

[16:26] know how these differ is they're not

[16:28] eternal. Uh it's not something where

[16:30] you're permanently, you know, there. Um,

[16:33] and how they're the same is um they they

[16:36] can

[16:38] look a little bit like at least the

[16:40] description of them look [clears throat]

[16:42] a little bit like um some of the western

[16:44] descriptions of various hell realms. Uh

[16:46] generally in Buddhist cosmology there's

[16:49] um uh eight hot hells, eight cold hells

[16:52] and primarily the suffering is you know

[16:54] just as I said related to cold or

[16:57] related to heat. Um, and then there's

[16:59] all kinds of peripheral hells and

[17:01] different experiences. And basically

[17:02] what it's saying is that due to

[17:07] extremely uh destructive actions um

[17:10] we're talking um really harmful actions

[17:14] done to others uh that the karmic

[17:16] ripening can can take results a as birth

[17:19] or existence in one of these realms and

[17:22] it can take a really long time to get

[17:23] out into some of the higher realms. And

[17:26] just back to my point, of course I, you

[17:29] know, none of us, if if it's true and

[17:31] they exist, I, you know, I don't know,

[17:34] uh, but if it's true and they exist, um,

[17:36] we definitely don't want to end up

[17:37] there. And, um, also, we don't want

[17:40] anyone else to end up there. It's, it's

[17:42] not something we would wish on our worst

[17:43] enemy. We're talking about it. We're

[17:45] [clears throat] talking about extremely

[17:46] painful uh, experiences here. Definitely

[17:49] no ability to even hear the word dharma

[17:51] or hear even the word kindness. uh just

[17:54] imagine a place like that. Now as I

[17:57] already said in the human realm we can

[17:58] see the diversity of these kinds of

[18:00] realms um appearing also in the human

[18:03] realm. So that's a way we can start

[18:04] reflecting on these kinds of things more

[18:06] like hellish experiences in the world

[18:09] animallike experiences in the world you

[18:11] know deva realm like experiences in the

[18:14] world and the main reason we reflect on

[18:16] this is to create an exhaustion with

[18:19] existence itself. Right now again when I

[18:22] say exhaustion with existence we're not

[18:24] then seeking non-existence that's not

[18:26] actually possible. But what I mean by

[18:27] existence here is a self embodied in a

[18:31] place where we're confused and we're not

[18:33] able to discern uh what are the causes

[18:36] of freedom and what are the causes of

[18:37] suffering right and so um as I already

[18:41] said that you know this is a difficult

[18:43] starting place for most modern

[18:44] meditators who are interested in you

[18:47] know working with the four thoughts um

[18:49] and so it's okay you can go to the more

[18:51] inner work which I'm going to present

[18:52] now um but at some point it is useful to

[18:55] turn back towards these Um it was not

[18:58] easy over the years to incorporate

[19:01] meditations on these basically

[19:03] reflections on what it would be like to

[19:05] be born in these different kinds of

[19:07] births. Um it was not easy first of all

[19:09] to to do that for a lot of years and

[19:12] then of course it brings in other things

[19:14] like rebirth itself which we already

[19:16] talked about which can be um somewhat of

[19:19] a contentious issue for modern people um

[19:22] as we have difficulty coming outside of

[19:26] the empirical

[19:28] um when actually nothing is empirical

[19:30] but that's another that's another video

[19:33] so I'm not going to go there and and

[19:35] anyways I I don't personally believe and

[19:38] uh like being pushy around these kinds

[19:40] of things cuz we really have to kind of

[19:42] see the benefit in wanting to meditate

[19:43] on on the on the six realms and then we

[19:46] will do it and we'll we'll get benefit

[19:48] from it otherwise it might create more

[19:50] resistance or for some people with

[19:53] previous religious trauma it might

[19:55] create more trauma. So with that said I

[19:58] just wanted to you know cover my bases

[20:00] there. Um, one of my favorite

[20:02] reflections to bring into um, a

[20:05] reflection on the overall defects of

[20:06] samsara is through um, the three types

[20:09] of duka, right? So, duka we are I I

[20:12] believe we already covered in this

[20:13] minieries. Um, duka is is a Sanskrit and

[20:16] poly word uh, representing

[20:19] more than suffering. Uh there's not

[20:21] really a great translation for it, like

[20:23] a single word translation, but often we

[20:26] can see pain, suffering,

[20:27] dissatisfaction, confusion, delusion. Um

[20:31] there's all kinds of different ways duka

[20:33] manifests basically. But fundamentally,

[20:36] dooka is um a confusion that binds us to

[20:39] samsaric existence. It binds us into

[20:41] that circling I was just talking about.

[20:44] That circling [clears throat] can be

[20:45] moment to moment, right? in craving and

[20:48] aversion, one or the other, or fear and

[20:50] expectation. There's many ways to talk

[20:52] about this. And the most important is

[20:54] that we're investigating to see that for

[20:56] oursel because then we're going to want

[20:57] to turn the mind right towards

[21:00] practicing the dharma more and seeing

[21:02] how to act, how reality actually is, how

[21:05] to work with our mind in a wholesome

[21:06] way, how to work with our delusions in a

[21:10] wholesome way and afflictive emotions.

[21:12] But anyways, so dooka is um uh more or

[21:16] less the status quo of samsaric

[21:19] existence. Whatever realm we end up in,

[21:22] there's going to be dooka. There might

[21:23] be less of it in a formless realm like a

[21:26] deva without a body uh and more of it in

[21:28] a hell realm. But the truth is it's it's

[21:31] still embedded there. It's just a

[21:32] different form of it. So these three

[21:34] types of dooka uh the first one is the

[21:36] dook of duka or the dissatisfaction of

[21:38] dissatisfaction. The second type is the

[21:41] duca of change uh or the the

[21:43] dissatisfaction of change. And the third

[21:45] type is all perverasive duka or all

[21:47] pervasive dissatisfaction.

[21:49] And um generally these three types cover

[21:53] most duka that can be experienced within

[21:56] samsara. And so we reflect on it. And

[21:58] why do we reflect on it? Going back to

[22:00] some principles here, we're not

[22:02] reflecting on it to bum ourselves out.

[22:04] We're not reflecting on it to dwell on

[22:06] it. We're not reflecting on it to become

[22:09] an uber religious person. We're

[22:11] reflecting as a prompt to see is that

[22:14] true? Because from that, if we do start

[22:17] to see some truth through direct

[22:19] experience in meditation, um we are

[22:21] going to want to change that, right? We

[22:24] are going to want to remedy duka, which

[22:27] is one of the primary teachings of the

[22:29] Buddha, right? Embedded in the formal

[22:30] truths. So, Duka, Duke of Duka is not

[22:35] difficult. This is one where I mean it's

[22:38] not difficult to understand. Uh we still

[22:39] need to reflect on it and derive

[22:41] experience but this would be the things

[22:44] the Duke of Duka would be the things

[22:45] that we primarily know as

[22:48] dissatisfactory

[22:50] as painful or um undesirable um as

[22:54] suffering. all the things from big

[22:56] things like like getting you know

[22:58] getting a a sickness uh serious illness

[23:01] to just you know our bagel not coming

[23:05] out the right way out of the toaster

[23:06] right like really really it does include

[23:09] all of that. So it still is actually

[23:11] quite a wide range but anything we could

[23:13] label as like this is undesirable right

[23:16] from small things to big things. Duke of

[23:18] change is when it gets uh very

[23:21] interesting. Um it's not the fact that

[23:23] things do change, right? That's actually

[23:25] not a problem. That's actually a plus.

[23:27] Uh impermanence is actually a plus when

[23:29] we Anyways, it's not the topic of today,

[23:32] so I won't go into it. But um the Duke

[23:35] of Change more is has to do with

[23:37] craving. It has to do with um when we

[23:42] assume within an experience that it's

[23:45] going to provide us the pleasure, the

[23:48] outcome, um yeah, the the goal that we

[23:53] intended or wanted.

[23:55] And when we look, again, this isn't

[23:58] something I'm telling you to believe.

[23:59] This is something you'll need to

[24:00] investigate for yourself. When we look,

[24:02] we can see it's the opposite. things

[24:04] actually decline in pleasure the more we

[24:06] engage with it. Right? So, a pretty

[24:09] classic example that's used often in

[24:12] this department in Buddhist teachings is

[24:14] sitting down and standing up. So, I've

[24:16] been sitting for quite a while because

[24:17] I've been doing multiple interviews and

[24:19] videos today. And yes, I am looking

[24:21] forward to getting up. [laughter] Why?

[24:23] Because I have a body and when gravity

[24:25] applies to that body, my lower body

[24:28] starts to hurt. Uh right. You can

[24:30] imagine uh in your own experience. Now

[24:35] when I stand up after finishing

[24:37] recording this um

[24:40] I will feel a little bit of an ah most

[24:43] likely oh relief you know right?

[24:47] But the question is is that really

[24:50] relief? Because then I will stand and

[24:53] let's assume I'm going to stand for

[24:54] another 30 minutes, 45 minutes,

[24:56] whatever. At some point I'm going to

[24:58] develop the wish or desire to sit and

[25:01] when I sit there's going to be that very

[25:03] same experience of ah finally right. So

[25:07] what the duke of changes is it's the

[25:09] start of duca this this subtler kind of

[25:12] dooka or dissatisfaction of nothing

[25:14] quite being satisfactory. Right. And

[25:17] this does depend on aggregates like this

[25:19] depends on having a body and mind that's

[25:21] um embedded in samsara right now. Um and

[25:26] of course conditions but I think we can

[25:29] all relate to that. And what this does

[25:31] if we really take it into practice it

[25:33] bursts the bubble of finding a place to

[25:37] land. So strangely in in Buddha Dharma

[25:41] what's kind of unique is there's not

[25:44] some kind of other solution we're going

[25:46] to find. It's actually resolving

[25:48] solution mentality itself. And when we

[25:51] resolve that we find um it's not quite

[25:55] contentment. Maybe you could say the

[25:56] word contentment. We find our open

[25:59] spacious nature which was never touched

[26:02] by duca isn't duca right but experience

[26:06] can move through it. So [laughter]

[26:08] that's definitely on the deeper end, but

[26:10] I just want to say say that here because

[26:12] that's important because uh for me I

[26:15] have to, you know, uh quite often I have

[26:18] to remember why I'm doing something

[26:20] because if I'm just reflecting on like,

[26:22] oh, the second bite of this ice cream is

[26:24] going to be is going to be less

[26:26] satisfactory than the first. I don't

[26:28] know what's the point of that. The point

[26:30] is to not be attached to the damn ice

[26:32] cream, right? Because I'm going to

[26:34] suffer less if I have less craving for

[26:35] it. Does it mean I have to stop eating

[26:37] ice cream? No. I mean, it could mean

[26:39] that, but it doesn't need to mean that.

[26:41] So, the fundamental problem is not the

[26:43] thing. The problem is how we're

[26:44] interacting with it. And in order to

[26:46] change that, we have all these different

[26:48] pathways in dharma. So, this is one of

[26:50] those pathways. Right? Now, the third

[26:53] type of duka is is even more subtle.

[26:56] Right? Um, it does take some awareness

[26:58] and and and pretty serious mindfulness

[27:01] practice to to be able to see the second

[27:04] one because we have to see the mind

[27:06] engaging in um craving itself which

[27:10] which is hard. That does take some some

[27:12] practice to be able to develop that kind

[27:14] of awareness. Um where the third um

[27:18] there's there can be like more of a

[27:19] principle to it but also an even subtler

[27:22] thing to see with the mind. So I've

[27:24] heard this described in two ways. Uh the

[27:26] classic way is more that uh uh more

[27:30] having to do with the five aggregates

[27:32] which have to do with the makeup or the

[27:34] heaps of body and mind. And once the the

[27:38] the the five aggregates or or the heaps

[27:41] of body and mind have come together at

[27:43] the time of birth um it's pervaded by

[27:47] dooka because it's inevitable we're

[27:48] going to experience a variety of

[27:50] unwanted things right including uh birth

[27:54] old age sickness and death right the

[27:55] what we call the four rivers in in

[27:57] Buddhism.

[27:58] Um so so there's that that's kind of

[28:01] more the classic example which again can

[28:04] sound quite dire. It's not just we have

[28:07] to change our vantage point of how we're

[28:08] looking at it. But um I I prefer this

[28:12] description from Mingramsh and we'll see

[28:14] if I if I get it close to what he said.

[28:17] Um which is more um an underlying um

[28:21] it's not quite anxiety. It's more like a

[28:23] dis an underlying discontent that's

[28:25] almost imperceptible.

[28:27] And um how this is described is more

[28:30] this sense of never feeling quite at

[28:33] ease or like things are okay. There's

[28:35] always at some point we need to do

[28:37] something else. At some point we need to

[28:39] move. At some point we need to do

[28:41] another activity. Um yes, can we do one

[28:45] activity or be in one state for a long

[28:47] time? Sure. Like we can, you know, enjoy

[28:49] relaxing for a a good portion of the

[28:52] day. At some point we're going to start

[28:54] to feel dissatisfied with that. we're

[28:56] going to start to feel like antsy or

[28:58] unsettled.

[29:00] So that's also one definition I've heard

[29:02] of of the of all pervasive dooka. It's

[29:04] sort of pervading the experience where

[29:06] we never feel okay. And and so that's

[29:10] the bad news. The good news is that's

[29:12] actually not our nature. So it's another

[29:14] way to reflect on why would I even want

[29:16] to reflect or meditate on these things

[29:18] is because it's not our nature. And so

[29:20] when we see more of what's not our

[29:21] nature, actually it can lead to our

[29:23] nature. That's one way the the dharma

[29:25] works. I can't tell you the mechanism of

[29:27] that, but that's uh it can do that. It

[29:31] can work that way. So a reflection on

[29:33] duka in this case is not just a giant

[29:35] bummer all the time. It actually helps

[29:38] us to see the causes of duka more and

[29:40] then of course we can start to move away

[29:41] from them. But the allpervasive one is

[29:44] tough because when we have a a sense of

[29:46] self, a sense of I, me and mine, uh

[29:49] we're going to you know, vacasillate

[29:51] between um you know, wanting this and

[29:56] then getting tired of that and wanting

[29:58] something else.

[30:00] So, let's go ahead and do some practice

[30:02] uh as we've been doing in this series.

[30:04] And we'll go ahead and and mostly

[30:06] meditate on the second type, right? So

[30:08] as usual just take a posture that works

[30:11] well for about five minutes or so of

[30:14] reflective meditation. Again moving

[30:16] between chigum analytical and jook

[30:19] resting.

[30:22] Then as you settle into the body finding

[30:25] a relaxed yet alert posture. If you want

[30:26] to keep your eyes open closed or halfway

[30:29] open whatever works for you. And if you

[30:33] have a practice of being mindful of

[30:35] breath already great. You can go ahead

[30:37] and start to connect with the breath.

[30:45] Also, any kind of anchor

[30:48] for bringing your attention into the

[30:51] present moment more is useful here or

[30:53] just finding

[30:56] a sense of settling into now.

[31:00] Just as a preliminary

[31:17] and now we can also bring in a

[31:18] motivation. I want to see the truth.

[31:21] Even if that truth proves the Buddha or

[31:24] anyone else wrong or proves me wrong, I

[31:27] want to see the truth. So, it's not a

[31:29] seeking of someone else's idea. It's a

[31:31] seeking of how things are.

[31:34] And why do we want to see the truth?

[31:36] Because we have care and warmth and love

[31:38] for ourel and others.

[31:49] Now you can bring into your imagination

[31:53] an experience like the one I already

[31:55] shared. uh having stood up for a long

[31:59] time, maybe walked a lot during the day,

[32:02] either at work or maybe out in nature or

[32:06] just being in a city and walking a lot.

[32:08] So, recall a time when that was

[32:10] happening.

[32:19] And I can bring into your imagination

[32:22] and reflection what it felt like to sit

[32:26] down after all of that standing and

[32:28] walking.

[32:31] And again, this kind of reflection can

[32:33] also be done on the spot. But since

[32:36] we're

[32:38] here on

[32:41] YouTube video or an audio podcast,

[32:44] we can simply just use our imagination.

[32:49] I want you to imagine the relief of

[32:52] sitting down after all that time

[32:54] walking, standing.

[33:01] And was that satisfactory? Was that

[33:04] sufficient? Meaning, did you sit down

[33:07] and that was it? You never had to get up

[33:10] again? [laughter]

[33:12] Now, I don't mean getting up because

[33:14] someone asked you to get up or you

[33:16] needed to do something. I just mean

[33:18] imagine sitting down for enough time

[33:20] that you couldn't bear sitting down

[33:22] anymore. This is important.

[33:29] You couldn't take it anymore. You had to

[33:31] get up.

[33:33] Your back became tight. Your body became

[33:35] kind of stiff and heavy. You just needed

[33:38] to move a little bit, stretch, walk

[33:40] around the house. So imagine that. or

[33:45] bring forth a time when you can remember

[33:47] that happening.

[33:53] Of course, we need to reflect on this

[33:55] quite a bit, but when you have a little

[33:57] bit of an aha moment with this, when it

[34:01] lands in the body, just drop the

[34:04] reflection, drop the investigation, and

[34:08] stay with that

[34:10] that sense of the duke of change.

[34:13] nothing quite being perfect.

[34:19] Now, for some Now, for some of you,

[34:22] sometimes this can arouse sadness.

[34:24] That's okay.

[34:26] Sometimes it can arouse relief. Finally,

[34:30] I don't have to seek

[34:32] perfection anymore.

[34:35] Whatever happens, just be with that. Be

[34:38] with what's get what be with what gets

[34:40] churned out from the reflection itself.

[34:53] Of

[35:04] course, if you want to continue, you can

[35:06] come back to investigating gently that

[35:09] kind of situation or another situation

[35:11] that has more

[35:14] emphasis or power for the practice for

[35:17] you. and then rests.

[35:21] When there's a seeing of that, when

[35:24] there's an arousing of what's been

[35:26] churned, even if you're not exactly sure

[35:29] what that is or can put your finger on

[35:31] it, just drop the investigation be.

[35:38] So, you can alternate like that as much

[35:41] as you want. And when you're ready to

[35:43] close,

[35:44] we can just simply come back to our

[35:46] anchor, breath, body, [clears throat]

[35:48] sense of now.

[36:00] And just simply dedicating the energy

[36:03] from this. May

[36:05] the scene of reality of

[36:10] the truth of reality

[36:13] evoke and naturally uncover more

[36:16] compassion, more openness,

[36:20] more freedom and awakening for the

[36:22] benefit of myself and others.

[36:31] Okay. So that's just a very simple short

[36:34] example of how we can do uh reflection

[36:36] on these three types of dooka. But of

[36:38] course we can take the other two uh as

[36:42] well. Um the first one the duka duka,

[36:44] the third one all pervasive duca. And um

[36:48] I I'll often rotate these. I'll do them

[36:52] formally on on the meditation cushion

[36:54] like we just did. I'll do them

[36:55] informally. I the Duke of Change is

[36:58] something I apply a lot in daily life

[37:01] when I'm really excited about something.

[37:02] I'm not trying to ruin the excitement. I

[37:05] just want to see how things are. I don't

[37:07] want to be stuck in my own fantasy. And

[37:10] so I'll watch my mind engaging with the

[37:12] ice cream or the walk in nature or

[37:16] sitting on the couch finally whatever it

[37:17] is when I remember to do it right. And

[37:20] from this we learn a lot about

[37:22] ourselves. We learn a lot about the mind

[37:25] and primarily we learn that samsara is

[37:28] an inside job, right? Meaning it's not

[37:31] about fixing everything outside of us.

[37:33] It's not that samsara is all out there

[37:35] in the world and they're all screwed up.

[37:38] No, we're seeing through our eyes and

[37:40] our perception, right? And although

[37:42] we're not fundamentally screwed up,

[37:44] there are obscurations that are

[37:46] preventing us from uh encountering our

[37:49] um openness and compassion and a more

[37:52] liberated way way of being. So, I really

[37:55] appreciate you joining me for this

[37:57] series on the four thoughts that turn

[37:59] the mind towards the dharma. I hope uh

[38:01] they're useful uh to you. I hope you

[38:03] found lots of different ways to approach

[38:05] them. As I said, if you're new to him,

[38:08] uh usually study and and some learning

[38:10] could be the first step. And um this is

[38:12] um kind of

[38:15] pretty it's pretty embedded in in

[38:17] traditional Buddhism. So just that comes

[38:19] with some things. You know, you you may

[38:21] have trouble with some of the premises

[38:23] uh and and and beliefs about relative

[38:26] reality behind uh some of these

[38:28] meditations, but you you can also take

[38:30] what you can relate to now and then work

[38:33] with the other stuff later, right? you

[38:35] don't have to if you don't believe

[38:36] everything 100% it doesn't mean you

[38:38] can't benefit from the practice right

[38:41] and um I also am not a believer in like

[38:43] you know throwing the baby out with the

[38:45] bath water just cuz we can't see

[38:46] something or relate to it doesn't mean

[38:47] it's not true right so but we don't have

[38:50] to push ourselves or force ourselves

[38:51] into that as I've said many times

[38:53] throughout this little minieries and I

[38:55] say on my podcast and YouTube channel

[38:57] all the time this is not about um being

[39:00] a believer of something it's about

[39:03] taking in prompts and teachings and

[39:05] understandings to churn them in our own

[39:08] experience so that we can develop our

[39:10] own openness and freedom or right now

[39:13] whether you call that Buddhism or

[39:15] whatever you know it's fine um I don't

[39:18] particularly have an issue uh uh calling

[39:21] myself a Buddhist but that's not like a

[39:23] big identity I need to hold either so I

[39:26] know people struggle with these issues

[39:27] and stuff like that but but if we can my

[39:30] you know if we can get to the point if

[39:31] we can get to the actual like what are

[39:33] we doing here. I think we can cut out a

[39:35] lot of um time wasted and sort of um uh

[39:39] I don't know being stuck in our triggers

[39:42] as well. So, I wish you a lot of luck in

[39:45] this. Um as always, please comment.

[39:47] Please uh feel free to reach out. I

[39:49] always appreciate your questions and

[39:51] comments and um you know, things related

[39:55] to this topic that you have to say. And

[39:58] um yeah, wishing all the best in your

[40:01] practices and your path. Thanks so much.

Scott Tusa
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Buddhist meditation teacher and former monk, ordained by the 14th Dalai Lama, who helps experienced practitioners move from doing the practice to embodying it.

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Samsara literally means 'to circle.' While it's traditionally mapped as six realms of rebirth, the essential teaching is about the circling we already know: wanting the next thing, seeking relief from this thing, never finding solid ground. You can work with it as psychology rather than metaphysics—it's the endless cycle of seeking and dissatisfaction happening in your mind right now.
The first is obvious suffering—pain, loss, unwanted experience. The second is pleasure that fades; even good things become insufficient the longer you hold them. The third is the pervasive dissatisfaction woven into impermanence itself—the sense that nothing can be relied upon to bring lasting peace, even when nothing is overtly wrong.
No. The six realms function as a teaching tool or psychological map, but the core principle—that different mental states have their own flavors of suffering and none are a place to rest—can be tested through your own experience. Take what you can relate to now; leave the rest for later.
The understanding isn't meant to make you passive or depressed. Rather, seeing that no ultimate solution is waiting helps you stop seeking it. You can still solve problems and improve your life, but without the exhausting belief that there's a place where dissatisfaction never returns. This clarity redirects energy toward actual causes of freedom.
Dukkha encompasses obvious pain, but also the broader dissatisfaction and discontent that come from impermanence and the mind's habit of seeking. Regular pain is one flavor of it. The subtler forms—fading pleasure, pervasive discontent—are harder to see but equally important to understand.
Sit and notice: sit after standing, stand after sitting. Watch the relief come, then fade. Notice the mind seeking the next position. The practice isn't analysis but direct observation—allowing the body and mind to perceive, without judgment, that even relief is temporary and the search is always operating.

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