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[0:00] What is happening with this conversation
[0:02] [music] about regulating the nervous
[0:04] system is actually disregulating to the
[0:06] nervous system. Because [music] when
[0:08] people are worried about how to regulate
[0:10] their nervous system, worry is the
[0:12] number one way to disregulate it.
[0:13] [music] So we have to understand that
[0:15] the body was built the nervous system
[0:17] was built to be self-regulating,
[0:19] self-healing, and self-elilluminating.
[0:21] We are built for that. So we're just not
[0:23] using our system properly. [music]
[0:27] Yeah. Heat.
[0:53] In this episode of Insights at the Edge,
[0:55] my guest is [music] Dr. Sue Mortar.
[0:58] Friends and colleagues call her Dr. Sue.
[1:01] Dr. Sue earned her doctorate of
[1:04] chiropractic degree more than 40 years
[1:07] ago. And since that time, she has
[1:10] developed a whole body of groundbreaking
[1:15] work in the field of bioenergetics,
[1:18] focusing on clearing interference in the
[1:21] nervous system and resetting the body's
[1:24] electromagnetic flow. In 2019, Dr. Sue
[1:30] released a best-selling book called The
[1:32] Energy Codes. She's also the founder of
[1:36] the Body Awake School of Yoga and the
[1:39] Mortar Institute. She's an
[1:41] internationally renowned speaker and the
[1:44] author of a new book, which is what
[1:46] we're going to be talking about today,
[1:48] called The Anatomy of Awakening. Dr.
[1:51] Sue, welcome.
[1:53] >> Well, thank you so much for having me,
[1:55] Tammy. It's wonderful to be here with
[1:56] you, and I so look forward to seeing
[1:58] where we get to go today. In reading the
[2:02] anatomy of awakening, I learned that 25
[2:05] years ago, you had a lifealtering, is
[2:09] the way you describe it, spiritual
[2:11] experience. And I wonder if you can take
[2:14] us to what actually occurred.
[2:17] Sure. I was in a state in my life
[2:22] seeking, desiring to have peace of mind,
[2:25] really searching and I stumbled upon a
[2:29] meditation group and was attending uh
[2:33] one of the very first um times to sit
[2:36] and meditate with a group of people. And
[2:39] I I had several things leading up to
[2:43] this moment. I was an overgiver, an
[2:46] overtryer, overachiever. All of the
[2:49] performance, you know, symptoms were
[2:51] there loud and clear. I was uh making a
[2:55] decision in my life to not let that run
[2:57] my life anymore. I walked into this room
[3:00] to sit down and enjoy the meditation
[3:03] where typically I had been actually an
[3:06] assistant inside these workshops and
[3:09] running around trying to make everyone
[3:10] else have a great time and have a good
[3:12] experience and recognized that it was it
[3:15] was sort of my time. I just needed to do
[3:17] that for myself instead of you know
[3:19] always trying to help and support. And
[3:21] so I was new to meditation. It was a
[3:25] Hindu-based meditation group. They were
[3:28] chanting Sanskrit tones, things I was
[3:30] completely unfamiliar with. So I had to
[3:33] pay very close attention. And they were
[3:36] chanting and they were holding notes
[3:38] longer than I was ever acclimated to,
[3:41] being super shy and never wanted to sing
[3:45] in public or or anything along those
[3:47] lines. Now, this wasn't singing, but it
[3:49] was as close to to that as I ever cared
[3:52] to be. And so I was completely
[3:54] uncomfortable is the bottom line. and
[3:56] yet earnestly wanting to drop in and
[4:00] have a moment for myself and discover
[4:02] whatever this could be. And and so with
[4:06] long deep breaths, chanting specific
[4:09] tones, an earnest focus on this moment
[4:12] for myself, and allowing that repetition
[4:16] to take over, I instantly was
[4:19] transported into another state of
[4:22] consciousness that I didn't even know
[4:24] was something to be pursuing, which I'm
[4:27] actually really glad about because I
[4:30] would have been trying to achieve
[4:31] something, which would have kept me, of
[4:33] course, from ever being able to drop
[4:35] into it uh given my disposition at the
[4:38] time. And so I
[4:41] was in a light so brilliantly bright. It
[4:44] was 10 times brighter than the brightest
[4:46] day in the desert that I had ever seen.
[4:48] And it was uh completely engulfing. And
[4:54] it wasn't a brightness that I wanted to
[4:56] get away from. It was just what was so.
[4:58] I knew in an instant that this was the
[5:01] truth of who I was and that we all are.
[5:04] I could see in every direction above,
[5:06] below, behind, beside me. I was embedded
[5:09] into the earth, which I could see
[5:11] beneath me about the size of a marble.
[5:13] And it felt like I was embedded into it
[5:15] up to what would have been my knees. But
[5:18] I didn't have knees because I wasn't in
[5:20] a body. I was as as as this may sound
[5:23] strange, I was a ray of light that was
[5:27] pure conscious light. And this brilliant
[5:31] light was pouring through my system and
[5:35] literally pouring into the earth beneath
[5:37] me. And every time I took a breath, I
[5:40] did have free will. I had choice because
[5:42] I could choose to take a big breath or a
[5:46] small breath. But this beautiful pink
[5:49] horizon, this iridescent translucent
[5:52] pink color would rise up with every
[5:55] inhale and it would lower down to a
[5:58] horizon of sorts in front, behind, all
[6:01] around um as I would exhale. And each
[6:06] time I took this breath, this light
[6:09] literally felt like it I still get
[6:11] choked up when I talk about it. It felt
[6:14] like it was becoming love as it was
[6:17] pouring down through me and into the
[6:19] earth. And I knew in that moment that
[6:21] that was the truth of who we are. And I
[6:24] knew that I had always been there and
[6:25] that I would always be there. I was
[6:27] completely fulfilled, satiated,
[6:29] satisfied, wholly, whole. There was
[6:31] nowhere to go. Nothing to become,
[6:33] nothing broken, nothing missing, nothing
[6:35] wrong. And I knew that this was true
[6:39] about all of us, that this is what we're
[6:41] doing. And that the heavens are right
[6:44] here. This it is one and the same. And
[6:48] uh and in that state I felt as my true
[6:53] self what had been unfolded un unveiled.
[6:56] And so as I came down out of that state,
[6:59] I don't know how long I was there, but
[7:01] when I did come down out of the state, I
[7:05] landed back in the room chanting with
[7:07] all these people and I looked at the
[7:10] teacher who was leading the event and
[7:12] she knew what was happening um and in
[7:16] some way and it was as if all the the
[7:20] to-do list that I had been given to run
[7:22] around behind the scenes had done its
[7:24] job. It just kind of put me over the
[7:26] edge and and allowed me to completely
[7:29] drop in with a a desire to serve some
[7:32] sense of self that I had never found and
[7:35] and uh and find it. I did. So, it was
[7:38] the beginning of of a new way of looking
[7:41] at life. I've spent the last 26 years
[7:44] really working with what I know to be
[7:48] true and teaching people how to embody
[7:51] this light that we are and allow it to
[7:54] be all that it is without us distorting
[7:56] it and disrupting it and altering it in
[7:59] all of the ways that we do which lead us
[8:01] to the pain and the suffering that we
[8:04] experience in in my in my experience. So
[8:08] >> I appreciate the detail Dr. Sue and I
[8:12] was able and I think our listeners were
[8:14] able to travel with you to some degree
[8:16] and experience what you experienced. The
[8:19] question I have is the life altering
[8:23] stabilization
[8:24] of that. I think many of us have an
[8:27] experience we go out or you know could
[8:30] be in a meditation it could be in a
[8:32] psychedelic experience or all other
[8:34] kinds of experiences where we taste what
[8:37] you just described but it's not stable
[8:41] in our being. I got it I lost it is the
[8:43] way people sometimes refer to that type
[8:46] of knowing of ourselves as breathing
[8:51] love. Talk to me about the stabilization
[8:53] process if you will from your own
[8:55] experience here at the start and then
[8:57] we're going to get into how you teach
[9:00] other people to build energetic
[9:03] circuitry which is the way I've heard
[9:05] you describe it. Yeah,
[9:06] >> sure. You bet. So, you know, that moment
[9:09] only opened my mind to a different
[9:11] reality, but it didn't change how I
[9:15] exchanged in relationship or what I what
[9:18] I knew to do in terms of my business or
[9:22] in order to heal circumstances in my own
[9:26] physiology, my body or my mind or my
[9:28] emotional states. But I became obsessed
[9:31] with learning how to reproduce that
[9:34] state, how to get there again, how to
[9:36] have that be true for me on more than
[9:38] one moment. And what I recognized that
[9:42] was that I needed to get in my body with
[9:45] the same vibrational frequencies that I
[9:48] had experienced in this exalted state
[9:50] that seemed out of body, seemed other
[9:54] dimensional in some way. And so I, you
[9:57] know, I was coming out of chiropractic
[9:59] and so my orientation was the natural
[10:01] healing capacity of of the physical form
[10:04] and what it is that allows healing and
[10:07] transformation to happen on a physical,
[10:09] mental, and emotional level. And so I
[10:12] was finding myself applying those
[10:14] principles into now this new come from,
[10:17] this new disposition, this new point of
[10:20] reference. And as such, I realized that
[10:23] whenever I would try to be back in that
[10:25] state, it would never happen. When I
[10:27] would try to reproduce the circumstances
[10:29] and everything that I could remember, it
[10:31] wouldn't happen. And when I would not
[10:33] try and I would surrender and just go
[10:36] about treating my patients and getting
[10:37] on with my day, I would have flashes of
[10:40] it. It in the same state. It wasn't like
[10:44] uh it wasn't metaphorical. I was in that
[10:47] state again and then back here again.
[10:50] And I recognized that there was
[10:52] something that was opening when I wasn't
[10:54] trying and when I was in a surrendered
[10:56] state and simply allowing something, but
[10:59] in an organized fashion, this allowance
[11:02] and this surrender started to take root
[11:05] for me to the point that I could I could
[11:08] journey into this inner realm on on
[11:12] command. And it took me about five years
[11:15] to figure that out because I didn't have
[11:16] anyone really showing me what to do. And
[11:20] uh and yet I was just drawing upon what
[11:23] was beginning to feel aligned with that,
[11:25] what was beginning to feel uh um
[11:28] familiar with those higher states that I
[11:31] that I was accessing and being able to
[11:34] maintain those frequencies in my own
[11:37] system regardless of what was going on
[11:39] in my external environment. So my
[11:42] internal environment began to become
[11:44] more important than my external
[11:45] circumstances which we know in theory
[11:48] and and teachings in uh in consciousness
[11:52] and meditation and teachings from the
[11:54] eastern principles are always
[11:56] referencing this and it it I was finding
[11:59] it was it was really true. This is
[12:01] actually what is required to to begin to
[12:07] stabilize this to be able to have
[12:09] consistent access. So people seek
[12:12] enlightenment but what I was discovering
[12:14] was that enlightenment is actually what
[12:16] we are. We are the light coming into the
[12:19] physical dimension. We're coming into
[12:21] physical form. We are you know as
[12:24] science is showing us the the the
[12:26] foundation of our reality is based in
[12:28] consciousness. And so we are energy that
[12:31] is awake and we are the compression of
[12:34] that field of consciousness into
[12:37] physical form. I was drawing upon ideas
[12:40] that I knew about all physical matter is
[12:43] compressed energy and so my physical
[12:45] body is compressed energy and that
[12:47] energy at its highest vibrational
[12:49] frequency is light. So the idea that we
[12:53] are light in body form was easy for me
[12:57] to embrace. But the body piece was what
[13:00] I recognized people were missing. They
[13:03] were seeking enlightenment when actually
[13:06] the key was we are the light and seeking
[13:09] full embodiment is where we should be
[13:11] putting our attention. And so I started
[13:14] uh working with how to do that. How to
[13:17] feel like you're in your body. How to
[13:19] know that you're in your body. how to
[13:21] make sure that on a conscious level and
[13:23] on a subconscious level, we're aligning
[13:26] with our true design and allowing for
[13:30] ourselves to express into the full
[13:32] expression of who we are and and that
[13:35] reflects then why we're here, what we're
[13:37] doing, our purpose, our presence on the
[13:39] planet, etc. What happened in the
[13:42] process was the reason I I I didn't say
[13:46] this in the beginning. I just forgot to
[13:47] mention it that that I was seeking
[13:49] meditation in part because I was drawn
[13:52] to it just internally innately but I
[13:55] also started getting migraine headaches
[13:56] and so I I knew that the research was
[13:58] showing that meditation was helpful for
[14:00] headaches and so I you know now I'm I'm
[14:03] off to learn to meditate and within the
[14:06] very first very few times that I sat to
[14:09] meditate I started having you know
[14:11] transcendental experiences and then it
[14:13] was about the third time that I
[14:15] meditated this experience that I just
[14:17] shared with everyone is what was
[14:19] unfolding for me. And so, so not only
[14:22] did the migraine headaches heal when I
[14:24] started learning to get in my body with
[14:26] this high state of consciousness that I
[14:29] was accessing, I was also born with a
[14:31] scoliosis which disentangled, unwound
[14:35] and has healed in my system. Uh at this
[14:38] time I had lived with back pain and neck
[14:41] pain and and you know strength issues my
[14:44] whole life and uh little by little as I
[14:47] was learning to generate a bodily
[14:50] response to the states of consciousness
[14:52] that I was now aware of and get them to
[14:55] align which means you can't walk around
[14:58] with tension in your neck. You can't
[15:00] walk around with your stomach locked up.
[15:02] You can't worry yourself into to
[15:05] tightness of chest and and guttural
[15:07] responses if you want to allow this
[15:10] whole system to operate the way that
[15:12] it's intended. And so so it had my
[15:15] attention the things that were
[15:16] transforming for me and I began to share
[15:20] these ideas with my patients and I began
[15:23] to see that they were getting better
[15:26] faster and staying better longer. And so
[15:29] I started codifying what was happening
[15:31] and trying to wrap my mind around what
[15:34] kind of a of an of a combination of of
[15:38] areas to pay attention to, focuses to
[15:41] have, and ways to be that we're going to
[15:45] truly serve the unfoldment of our true
[15:48] destiny.
[15:50] >> And Dr. Sue, you have my attention right
[15:53] now because headaches and scoliosis have
[15:56] been two of my historical challenges as
[15:59] a person. And here's what I really want
[16:01] to understand. There's so much I want to
[16:04] understand about the energetic circuitry
[16:09] and the flow in our energy that supports
[16:13] this kind of embodied
[16:15] living of the expansive pink love that
[16:19] you described. Let's start with what
[16:22] blocks it. What entangles us? And what
[16:25] cramps our head in tension? How come we
[16:28] can't just surrender and feel and
[16:31] circulate this extraordinarily high
[16:35] frequency naturally? The frequency is
[16:37] natural, but we're somehow not able to
[16:41] flow with it naturally often.
[16:43] >> Yes, indeed. You know, and that's the
[16:45] human that's the human challenge. That's
[16:47] what we're here, I feel, to awaken to.
[16:49] That's what we're here to recognize. And
[16:51] I feel like we sort of land here and we
[16:53] splat and we dispers we disperse. We
[16:55] disperse the energies that we are. We
[16:57] externally orient. We start trying to
[16:59] look to everyone to, you know, our
[17:01] parents, the big people, the teachers,
[17:02] the ones who clothe us and feed us and
[17:04] all of that to give us feedback into our
[17:07] okayness and a sense of self. And so our
[17:10] circuits, our literal sensory nervous
[17:12] system is externally oriented. And so we
[17:15] have a difficult time really
[17:17] understanding what it means to embody
[17:21] because we're not living in our bodies.
[17:23] We're living in our minds, in our head,
[17:25] with a with a measuring stick based upon
[17:28] how much we are approved of, accepted,
[17:30] and loved by the outer world rather than
[17:33] really understanding who and what we
[17:35] are. There's an an eastern Sanskrit term
[17:37] called prahara, which means withdraw the
[17:40] senses. come here, come home, come back
[17:42] onto self rather than being other
[17:45] oriented, not in a selfish way, but in a
[17:47] self-responsible way. So that the
[17:50] energies that we are comprised of can do
[17:52] what they do. So I work with
[17:55] bioenergetics which just means how the
[17:57] energies flow through the body, the
[17:59] energies that built the body, the
[18:01] energies that heal the body, the
[18:02] energies that regulate the the nervous
[18:05] system and our digestive systems and our
[18:08] immune systems and our you know our uh
[18:11] electromagnetic energy system and uh all
[18:14] systems of flow. The lymphatic system,
[18:17] the respiratory system, the vascular
[18:19] system, all of them are under the master
[18:22] control of what is considered a master
[18:25] system. And it's all the bioenergetics.
[18:28] It's the energy system that built the
[18:30] body and it heals the body. And so this
[18:32] energy is measured to flow. I have an
[18:35] image I can just toss up here on the
[18:36] back wall that is really helpful for
[18:39] people who are able to be watching right
[18:40] now or maybe if you're just listening
[18:42] you can take a a look at the um the view
[18:46] here at some point. The energy is
[18:48] designed to pour down through the body
[18:51] what will become the body. It actually
[18:53] flows and hits the earth before it even
[18:55] builds a body. It hits the earth and
[18:57] reflects back up and rises and then it
[19:01] it fountains out and cycles around and
[19:04] around and around upon itself. It's
[19:07] always coming in. It's always hitting
[19:08] the earth. It's always rising up again.
[19:11] And it's always cycling. And this is a
[19:13] toric field flow is what that's called.
[19:15] It's a donutshaped rolling of an energy
[19:18] field that's measurable around the body.
[19:21] And that's the way that we're designed
[19:22] to operate. And so this system of
[19:26] movement is where the body is built
[19:28] inside the developing, you know, womb in
[19:30] the womb as a developing embryo. And so
[19:33] that's how we're designed to be
[19:34] operating, just allowing this high
[19:37] frequency light from source, the the
[19:40] energy of the unified field, the the
[19:42] quantum field, however we want to look
[19:44] at it, we can reference it as divine
[19:46] intelligence or universal intelligence.
[19:48] Um the zero point field that is
[19:50] compressing, etc. into physical form. So
[19:54] we know this law that all physical
[19:56] matter is compressed energy. So this is
[19:59] a process. Just think of this like this
[20:01] is how we build and build and build like
[20:03] a centrifuge here just generating the
[20:05] density of our physical mass. So that's
[20:08] how we're supposed to operate. And
[20:09] here's how most of us are operating. We
[20:11] we drop in, we hit the earth, we rise
[20:14] up, and somewhere along the way we shut
[20:17] down the feeling of autonomy. We shut
[20:20] down the feeling of uh the freedom to
[20:23] say and be and create and do what as I
[20:26] would so love to create and do. We shut
[20:29] down the safety of loving. We shut down
[20:32] our voice or our ability and we begin to
[20:35] operate as a separate self that is
[20:38] trying to fend for itself. And with the
[20:40] shutdown of these aspects of these
[20:43] layers of our own consciousness which
[20:45] oftentimes are referred to as the chakra
[20:47] system. But I'm not just talking about
[20:49] the chakras as wheels of energy inside
[20:51] the body. I'm saying that they represent
[20:54] different aspects of our wholeness, our
[20:56] consciousness, because the reality that
[20:59] we are living in is based in
[21:01] consciousness and so are we. And so our
[21:03] consciousness is everything u to study
[21:06] if we really want to understand who and
[21:09] what we are and what we're capable of.
[21:10] And so if we're shutting down aspects of
[21:12] our consciousness in this way, this
[21:14] rising energy now has to circumvent
[21:17] where we're contracted and we're not
[21:19] living in there and we've shut it down
[21:21] literally physically. We think we just
[21:24] shut down our attitude or our
[21:26] disposition or we feel ourselves shut
[21:27] down around certain people or
[21:29] circumstances, but all of it is telling
[21:32] a story. And so this rising energy picks
[21:35] up a wobble and it creates a distortion
[21:37] in the field. So now this individual is
[21:40] standing here looking out through a
[21:42] distorted field and they see a distorted
[21:45] reality. And so we see a world that
[21:48] doesn't offer up opportunities. We see a
[21:51] world that doesn't care or or that
[21:53] overlooks us or we affirm what we've
[21:56] prematurely concluded in the moments
[21:58] that we'd shut down in these ways. Most
[22:00] of those shutdowns happened before we
[22:02] were 10. Most of them before we were
[22:04] five. So here we are as adults trying to
[22:08] be conscious, trying to be responsible,
[22:10] trying to heal ourselves, trying to be
[22:12] good for the world and good for each
[22:13] other, but we're operating in a
[22:15] compensated system, looking through a
[22:18] compensated lens that is that is
[22:21] struggling harder than it needs to. And
[22:23] so what I focus on is getting these gaps
[22:29] or these obstacles. Uh you asked, you
[22:32] know, how what what's the interference?
[22:34] What's in the way? what's in the way is
[22:36] not really an obstacle, but most people
[22:38] go looking for their problems so they
[22:40] can fix them. They look for the
[22:41] blockages so they can fix them, which I
[22:44] understand, but the blockages are really
[22:46] gaps in communication. That's all they
[22:48] are. They're gaps in the flow. So these
[22:51] are like potholes in a superighway. So
[22:53] the car is having to swerve and swerve
[22:55] and it generates this distortion in the
[22:58] field for us. And so if we can come back
[23:00] and we can if we can come back onto the
[23:02] self, come back home to ourselves, many
[23:05] for the first time in our lives, we'll
[23:07] start to feel like, oh, oh, this is this
[23:12] is my gig. This I'm this is supposed to
[23:15] serve my reason for coming. I'm not here
[23:17] just to fit in, just to be a good
[23:19] person, do the right thing, show up and,
[23:21] you know, and serve. Yes, all those
[23:23] things. But those things will come
[23:25] naturally as a byproduct if I'm
[23:27] operating this way because that's what
[23:29] we're made of. We're made of all that
[23:30] is, why would we ever reject or deject
[23:32] or deny uh anything that is true? But
[23:36] when we're operating in this vibrational
[23:38] frequency, because this changes the
[23:39] radio station that we can dial into. And
[23:42] so what happened for me that day was
[23:45] that I surrendered enough of these
[23:47] patterns that that are of distortion and
[23:51] was so filled with love and sincerity
[23:54] for myself and for life and for come
[23:57] what may because I was operating in a
[24:00] way that was not usual for me. That this
[24:03] teacher had given me a list of things to
[24:05] do and I always do my list. always, you
[24:08] know, would would show up and do the
[24:10] right thing. And and I know that she was
[24:12] on to it. And she gave me a list of
[24:14] things to do that were impossible to do
[24:15] in the amount of time that I was to do
[24:17] them. And it boom, it blew my circuits.
[24:20] And so I went in trembling, upset, hurt,
[24:24] and afraid and taking a stand for myself
[24:27] all at the same time. And the love that
[24:30] came bursting out of me, you know,
[24:32] created just enough more of this
[24:34] perfected state that boom, you know,
[24:37] consciousness lit up in my system in a
[24:40] way that it never had been able to
[24:42] before. But then getting back in the
[24:45] body and learning how to let that flood
[24:48] through all these areas is what changed
[24:51] the scoliosis. It's what changed the
[24:53] headaches. It's what changed my ability
[24:55] to be loving and compassionate in for
[24:57] myself as well as others and to find my
[25:00] voice and to be sharing that with my
[25:02] beloveds and being able to speak into
[25:05] circumstances where the risks and the
[25:07] stakes are higher with with with a grace
[25:10] that I had never never experienced
[25:13] before.
[25:14] >> Now, let me check something out with
[25:16] you, Dr. Sue, cuz as I was starting to
[25:19] read the anatomy of awakening,
[25:22] what I started I started picking up what
[25:25] you were putting down and what as the
[25:28] kids say and what that felt to me and I
[25:30] want to see if this is accurate is that
[25:33] there's an energetic architecture. You
[25:36] call it the God body. And that the God
[25:41] body is the energetic
[25:45] form, if you will, that is in this
[25:49] awakened flow state. And we can create
[25:54] and build energetic circuitry that
[25:59] supports that flow. So we we can
[26:01] actually energetically work with
[26:04] ourselves to help build a god body
[26:08] that's already there that we're
[26:09] blocking. You explain it in your
[26:11] language. Describe the god body.
[26:14] >> Okay. I know it's it's like it's a big
[26:16] word. Uh I was originally going to name
[26:18] the book that, but then the publisher
[26:19] thought maybe it would, you know, we
[26:21] would just keep that on the inside of
[26:22] the book and not and not offend anyone
[26:24] that didn't, you know, want to hear
[26:25] about the hear about God or it's not
[26:27] it's not a religious term at all. It's
[26:29] source. It's it's the energy that is
[26:32] it's all of it. It's the pure presence
[26:34] that that is the truth of us. So we know
[26:37] a chakra system. Most people are
[26:39] familiar with the seven chakra system
[26:40] from the root to the crown and what I
[26:43] began to become lucidly aware of because
[26:46] when I was a kid I could see energy and
[26:49] I shut it down because I could tell it
[26:50] was making people nervous the way that I
[26:52] would speak about I thought everybody
[26:53] could and I would talk about it and you
[26:55] know the eyes would get big and glazed
[26:56] over and so I just I remember at about
[26:59] age 12 just turning it off just like I
[27:01] don't do this anymore when I saw that it
[27:02] was making my mother nervous even though
[27:04] she wanted to support me in all ways
[27:06] possible. Um and so and then in my 20s
[27:09] and my 30s my my 30s and late 30s I was
[27:12] I would question did that could I even
[27:14] see the energy as a kid because I can't
[27:16] get it back now for the life of me. But
[27:18] after this experience happened in in
[27:20] 2000 and continued into 2001 in great
[27:24] with great intensity um I began to be
[27:27] able to to see the energies again and I
[27:29] began to really work with it in this way
[27:31] that there is chakras 1 through 7 and
[27:34] there are energy centers above and and
[27:36] beneath us as well and there's this this
[27:39] sphere of energy around us. Now this
[27:41] would be a snapshot. That whole Torric
[27:43] field that I've been referencing is if
[27:46] you took a snapshot of it, it would kind
[27:47] of be represented as as this as well.
[27:50] And so this additional uh energy center
[27:54] recognition is something that I later
[27:57] discovered that other people had had
[27:59] written about it and spoke about it as
[28:01] well. And so it was very relieving to me
[28:04] to to realize that I wasn't alone in
[28:08] this process. And uh and so the the the
[28:13] energetics of chakra 8 and 9 and 10 and
[28:18] 11 is is hot in the hands and feet and
[28:21] also is the energy that is all around
[28:24] the interior of this chakra 12. And the
[28:26] chakra 12 is this big ascension body or
[28:29] this big oval of vibrational frequency
[28:32] that is just as high of a vibration as
[28:34] we can be and still be in in our own
[28:37] physical body. So if we look at it like
[28:39] the whole unified field is if you if if
[28:41] it was this big bed sheet and you just
[28:43] hung up this bed sheet, you know, from
[28:46] two corners and it's hanging down. If
[28:48] you were to go up behind it and just
[28:50] kind of pinch part of the sheet and push
[28:52] it toward each other, that's sort of
[28:54] what this first compression is in the
[28:57] field that becomes this this this God
[29:01] presence or it's it's this divine
[29:02] presence. So you teach on these five
[29:06] additional chakras. Maybe some people
[29:08] have heard of them. I imagine a lot of
[29:10] our listeners are only familiar with the
[29:13] seven chakra model. So maybe could you
[29:17] take us slowly through 8 9 10 11 12
[29:22] where they're located in our energy
[29:25] system and you call them hidden codes.
[29:28] what what gift we get when we know about
[29:32] the ace chakra, the 9th, 10th, 11th, and
[29:35] 12th.
[29:35] >> You know, here's what's so interesting.
[29:37] I can do it in that order. And the thing
[29:39] that will actually turn it on for people
[29:42] while we're talking about it is if we
[29:43] talk about it like 12, 11, 10, 9.
[29:46] >> Let's do it that. Let's do it your order
[29:48] because I wanted the main thing is that
[29:50] I want people, myself included, and all
[29:53] of us to get it turned on in our lives.
[29:55] >> You bet. So, so that sheet pinching is
[29:58] 12 and that 12 is the awareness of
[30:02] ourselves as the divine that we are a
[30:05] divine being. You know, we know that we
[30:07] come from the heavens, but we don't
[30:09] realize that we are then therefore made
[30:13] of that divine essence. And so, so
[30:16] chakra 12 is our choice to become. It
[30:20] is, you know, if we think about it like
[30:21] this, the divine only creates divine. So
[30:24] chakra 12 is your divine presence, the
[30:27] version of you that is unaltered,
[30:28] undistorted, not diminished. And so you
[30:32] first are actually this energy field
[30:35] long before
[30:36] >> you describe it as a golden egg. And I
[30:38] want I want to get into the
[30:40] >> Yeah.
[30:40] >> feeling and the sense of it. Okay.
[30:43] >> Because I I noticed for me that's really
[30:45] helpful.
[30:46] >> And and and like the fact that oh
[30:48] there's a golden egg around me. I think
[30:50] I I actually feel that and sense that
[30:52] and can sense sometimes when it's broken
[30:55] or you know it or
[30:57] >> crack the crack crack serious crack in
[31:00] the egg or scrambled or god knows what
[31:02] has happened to the egg but uh I to so
[31:05] to sit with that that there's a a a
[31:08] chakra that is actually surrounding us
[31:11] as a golden egg. I think that's very
[31:13] profound.
[31:14] >> Yes. And you know it's not just
[31:16] surrounding us. It's actually the real
[31:19] us. We are actually first an energy
[31:22] being. We create a body to navigate this
[31:25] physical dimension. We are an energy
[31:28] presence that is here compressing itself
[31:32] into physical form in order to live in a
[31:35] physical reality. So while we're here,
[31:37] we are identifying as these physical
[31:39] bodies. And we have chakras 1 through
[31:41] seven and an eight and a nine overhead
[31:43] and a 10 underf foot uh and an 11 in our
[31:48] hands and feet which is why people have
[31:49] the heat in their hands and the
[31:51] electrical feelings and uh and so on
[31:55] that that it's why people you know put
[31:57] their hands up if they want to give
[31:58] healing energy to someone. It's because
[32:00] it's it's more pure. It's more
[32:02] unaltered. It's running right through
[32:04] our system. It's what allows us it's
[32:06] innate intelligence. it what it's what
[32:08] allows us to heal. It is what allows us
[32:11] to digest and to filter and to cleanse
[32:13] and and so on. And so and then that 11
[32:16] then surrenders out even more into this
[32:19] this golden egg around us. And so the
[32:23] golden egg sense of self is the glowing
[32:30] that we see emanating radiating when
[32:33] when holy beings are painted in
[32:36] Renaissance times with with with the
[32:38] glowing emanation around the crown.
[32:41] Maybe some of you have felt that glow in
[32:43] meditation or in the palms of your hands
[32:46] or the soles of your feet. And that is a
[32:49] very real thing. It's actually closer to
[32:53] the truth of who you are than than just
[32:56] a person who's trying to learn to
[32:58] discover these things. So when you're
[33:00] turned on to that felt sense, you begin
[33:03] breathing in a in a different manner.
[33:06] You begin to automatically feel the the
[33:10] preciousness and the divinity of life
[33:12] because because as 12 becomes 11 on the
[33:17] way in here as 12 becomes 11 it divine
[33:22] presence is the only thing that's true.
[33:24] It's the only thing that's real. And
[33:26] then we plant ourselves in chakra 10
[33:30] which is located 2 feet or lower into
[33:33] the earth from wherever you are. If you
[33:35] just think about it like the earth star,
[33:37] it's been referenced that way. But it is
[33:40] you anchoring and grounding and rooting
[33:43] yourself in the most clear and pristine
[33:47] fashion. So it's like chakra 10 is like
[33:50] the root chakra of our invisible
[33:53] architecture, our invisible anatomy that
[33:56] is surrounding the physical body. Long
[33:58] before the physical body even exists, it
[34:01] exists. And so so this 10 is just like
[34:06] the higher self but anchored in the
[34:09] earth and it's it's going to be uh
[34:13] presenting but but this this quality of
[34:16] chakra 10 is your groundedness. It is a
[34:19] greater love. I picture it like I try to
[34:22] describe it to people like molten lava
[34:25] at the center of the earth. Like if
[34:27] molten lava embraces everything. It's
[34:29] like nothing's going to go falling into
[34:32] molten lava and not end up part of
[34:34] molten lava. It's not going to keep you
[34:36] separate. It's completely unconditional
[34:38] in its embrace. So imagine that your
[34:42] love, your your presence on this planet
[34:45] was that quality of love that you are
[34:48] loved that much. You have the capacity
[34:50] to love that much. And the closer you
[34:52] get to that, the more you are able to
[34:56] manage your internal reality regardless
[34:58] of your external circumstances because
[35:01] you're not taking up arms to go, you
[35:03] know, fight the fight. You are you are
[35:06] approaching it from an entirely
[35:07] different way. It's the the greatest
[35:09] transmuting quality on earth. This
[35:12] quality of love, it dissolves
[35:14] everything. I call it the universal
[35:16] solvent. Anything that we are willing to
[35:18] love into is going to be transformed.
[35:21] anything including ourselves. So all of
[35:24] that is represented in a state of
[35:26] consciousness that is associated with
[35:28] chakra 10. And uh and then chakra 9 is
[35:33] located up 4 feet above the head or
[35:36] higher. It represents our soul purpose.
[35:40] The reason that we're here, it's like an
[35:42] awareness. When we awaken at chakra 9's
[35:46] state of consciousness, we are having
[35:48] revelation after revelation after
[35:50] revelation. things like your life
[35:53] flashing before your eyes that people
[35:55] from out-of- body experiences or
[35:56] near-death experiences come back and
[35:59] share that they saw the real meaning
[36:01] behind this and they saw the gift that
[36:03] was in this and they see another way of
[36:06] looking at this and that is someone
[36:09] illuminating at this chakra 9 which is
[36:12] their capacity to see from the bird's
[36:14] eye view if you will life from a
[36:17] different perspective one that is not
[36:19] based in survival
[36:20] yet but one that is based in awakening
[36:24] based in coming here to have our day in
[36:27] on earth as you know an experience of
[36:30] consciousness you know having an
[36:32] experience of itself that's what we're
[36:35] doing here and so so that's chakra 9 and
[36:39] chakra 8 is more of our life plan and
[36:44] the way that that life purpose that sole
[36:46] purpose is going to unfold is through uh
[36:50] a plan in our in in an or becomes
[36:54] organized like soul contracts where
[36:57] where you you have agreements with
[36:59] people that you know you're going to be
[37:01] prodded in certain ways or triggered in
[37:04] certain ways or activated in certain
[37:05] ways or guided in certain ways in order
[37:08] to fulfill your destiny here to awaken
[37:11] into your magnificence. So if I just put
[37:15] those in this pattern for just a moment,
[37:18] we can see that hierarchically,
[37:21] energetically, chakra 12 is where we
[37:24] begin. There's a choice to become to
[37:26] incarnate and we become that oval egg.
[37:29] And then what happens is that that is
[37:32] set in motion your purpose for here
[37:35] landing here in chakra 10. And when this
[37:39] divine source energy is able to pour in
[37:42] and pour in and we receive it, if the
[37:44] human body were standing here, it would
[37:46] be right there. So this energy comes in
[37:49] and grounds you at the earth level and
[37:52] then rises up through your system and it
[37:55] generates that toric field right here
[37:57] that I'm talking about. But as we become
[38:00] present to ourselves in the ways that
[38:03] we've been taught to do, what happens is
[38:06] this energy begins to fill and fill and
[38:09] fill this vessel that we are. And as it
[38:12] fills and fills and fills, we start
[38:15] having revelations. We start remembering
[38:17] who we are. We start recognizing there's
[38:20] a pathway for me that I am actually
[38:22] carving. I'm not here to fit into
[38:24] something else. I'm here as the creative
[38:27] source itself carving pathways of
[38:30] bringing light into the density of human
[38:33] consciousness, if you will. And so that
[38:36] that cycling and recycling and recycling
[38:39] is allowing me to have multiple
[38:41] opportunities to work through those
[38:44] areas that I had shut down and created
[38:46] that wobble and that distortion. And as
[38:48] we do, chakra 8 is this full-on
[38:52] expression. Your life plan is to see a
[38:56] blessing in everything and to bring that
[38:59] blessing forth to bring it into the
[39:02] world. To show others how to see in this
[39:06] way once we land and embody and
[39:08] integrate these frequencies in a way
[39:10] that is self-healing. The very next
[39:13] thing that's going to do is we're going
[39:14] to have this recognition that oh my
[39:17] gosh, these things haven't been working
[39:19] against me. They've been supporting me
[39:22] in terms of how I was ever going to
[39:25] discover my true deep rich magnificent
[39:29] self and elevate and exalt into these
[39:32] states. So what happened for me that day
[39:35] was this lit up. I lit up here in this
[39:39] area where where divine light was
[39:41] pouring in. I was that I was still
[39:44] identifying as that and I was here in
[39:48] this reality um awake to
[39:53] who I was when I chose to come without
[39:55] being distorted or disrupted. So most
[39:58] people are way out ahead of this over
[40:00] trying and overgiving. They're out of
[40:02] they're not in the sweet spot because
[40:03] right here is where the descending
[40:05] energy divine light is pouring into us
[40:07] all the time from every direction. But
[40:09] I've I've drawn it here just in a you
[40:11] know a schematic and it's hitting the
[40:13] earth and it's rising up and we're we're
[40:16] working through our own ability to love
[40:18] ourselves enough to be present with to
[40:20] forgive to all of the things that we're
[40:22] working out with. And where those two
[40:24] are crossing over each other is where
[40:28] we're constantly being fed and
[40:30] constantly being supported by the forces
[40:33] of mother nature, the stability of the
[40:35] groundedness of being, you know, on the
[40:37] planet, etc. And so most people are out
[40:40] here over trying. They miss this sweet
[40:42] spot or they're back here hiding where
[40:46] they're hesitant to do anything,
[40:47] hesitant to speak their truth, hesitant
[40:49] to reach out or to think that they can
[40:51] do the things that they want to do. And
[40:53] so they're missing the sweet spot. And
[40:56] so the whole journey really becomes
[40:58] about how do I find that place where
[41:01] these higher five chakras are these
[41:04] levels of consciousness are awakening?
[41:07] I'm awakening to them. They're not
[41:09] something I possess. They're parts of me
[41:12] that I didn't know I was. And when I can
[41:15] start to know what they represent, I can
[41:18] start to live into them. And so, so in
[41:23] that is is that's just sort of some
[41:26] background that kind of lays this out
[41:28] for us to to have a context for we are
[41:32] the light coming in. We are the energy
[41:35] that is dropping in in this systematic
[41:39] way. And our job is to allow that to
[41:42] happen. When we start to animate at this
[41:46] chakra 8 and 9 and 10 and 11 and 12, we
[41:51] create a temple, a sacred space where on
[41:56] the inside of that chakras 1 through 7
[41:59] have a better chance of expressing
[42:01] wholly and fully because they're not
[42:03] feeling like they're on their own.
[42:06] They're supported by something even
[42:08] higher that is holding the space. So it
[42:10] translates sort of like um if someone's
[42:13] has spirit guides or if someone feels
[42:15] like they're divinely guided or
[42:17] protected or or they feel that prayer
[42:20] brings something to them. Uh I would say
[42:24] there's a there's a an actual
[42:26] architecture to that. There's an anatomy
[42:29] to it that is invisible to the eye. uh
[42:33] most eyes and because of its
[42:36] invisibility we haven't known to give it
[42:38] credit and we we might think of oh I'd
[42:41] like to awaken higher at chakra 8 and we
[42:44] can certainly work with it that way and
[42:46] then with nine and then I want to know
[42:47] about 10 and then 11 and then ultimately
[42:51] I want that to all blossom out into this
[42:54] golden egg around me and that is an
[42:57] order and I talk about it in the book we
[42:59] can approach it that way but I I just
[43:02] always love the opportunity to to step
[43:04] in here and say, you know, you're you're
[43:06] not a physical being that's trying to
[43:09] learn about your divinity. You're a
[43:12] divine being that is here to fully
[43:15] awaken inside of your physicality, the
[43:18] physical vehicle that you built to even
[43:20] be here. And when you put it that way,
[43:24] when you flip it over, I call this this
[43:26] quantum flip that we're we're now
[43:29] operating as if we're in charge. We're
[43:32] not seeking for something where we know
[43:35] who we are. And our job is to land here
[43:38] and be more free in our expressions than
[43:42] we ever knew before that we had the
[43:44] right to. It's it's already here. It's
[43:47] not something that we're going to
[43:49] achieve or accomplish or acquire.
[43:52] Dr. Sue, we did a quantum flip together
[43:55] right here. I really liked it. Thank
[43:57] you. Now, I want to ask a couple of
[43:58] clarifying questions. Yeah. You when you
[44:01] started with the hidden code of chakra
[44:03] 12 and you were describing the golden
[44:05] egg, you said in that we breathe
[44:08] differently.
[44:10] >> And I thought, oh, that's interesting.
[44:11] How do we breathe differently when we're
[44:14] in an established field of a golden egg?
[44:18] There's an automatic spherical breathing
[44:20] that begins to happen and you can
[44:22] practice the spherical breathing which
[44:24] kind of brings you in the back door so
[44:26] that you can kind of prepare your system
[44:29] to be able to awaken more easily. A a
[44:32] spherical breathing which starts in the
[44:34] belly. Inhale in the belly. Stretch open
[44:36] your solar plexus right where your ribs
[44:39] play apart. Then inhale up into your
[44:41] heart and into your chest. And then
[44:44] inhale bigger than the body physical.
[44:47] And then exhale in every direction out
[44:49] as if you're filling this golden egg at
[44:51] about arms reach both sides and higher.
[44:54] You know, it's it's like 10 feet and 20
[44:56] feet above and below at its minimum. And
[44:59] so safe to have the egg be about that
[45:02] size. And then let's take a breath from
[45:04] this perimeter of a golden egg around
[45:06] you. Just breathe into your belly.
[45:09] Stretch open your solar plexus and
[45:11] breathe through that. Breathe up into
[45:12] your heart, into your chest. Inhale
[45:14] bigger than your physical body.
[45:18] And then exhale in every direction.
[45:21] In front of you, behind you, beside you,
[45:24] left, right, above and below. Inhale
[45:27] from every direction. Right into your
[45:29] belly. Inhale more. Stretch open solar
[45:33] plexus. Let it fill your heart and your
[45:35] chest. Inhale bigger than the body. And
[45:37] exhale in every direction. In front of
[45:40] you, behind you, above and below. And
[45:44] over and over that breath begins to
[45:47] fluctuate a a a in an in energetic
[45:51] fashion that allows for you to uh
[45:55] resonate in a different frequency. Now
[45:58] when you hit that, you may be spherical
[46:02] breathing over and over and over for
[46:04] several minutes and all of a sudden you
[46:07] aren't doing the breathing. You feel
[46:09] like you're being breathed. And when you
[46:12] are being breathed, you are definitely
[46:15] tapping into the frequencies of chakra
[46:18] 12. And that is why it is referenced as
[46:21] this ascension body of energies. that
[46:24] because it is there in that state that
[46:28] we are able to dissolve more and more of
[46:31] those blockages by filling in more and
[46:34] more of those potholes in that
[46:36] superighway that we were referencing
[46:39] when we were looking at it this way that
[46:41] we're we're automatically generating a
[46:44] chemistry of acceptance and embrace and
[46:47] the and the brains of the body and heart
[46:50] and mind. There's a brain in your gut
[46:52] and a brain in your heart and a brain in
[46:54] your head. They begin to reference each
[46:57] other. Our body chemistries change,
[46:59] neurotransmission changes, and the next
[47:02] thing you know, we're illuminating in
[47:04] higher brain states up above the
[47:06] primitive brain and we're we're in a
[47:09] revelatory state. So, it's a systematic
[47:12] thing that is designed to be operating
[47:14] in your favor. The whole system is built
[47:18] for your illumination. Of course,
[47:20] because we're made of light, we came in
[47:23] and we're in these, we built these
[47:24] vehicles and we're operating through
[47:26] them, but no one told us how to utilize
[47:29] them for what they were built to be
[47:32] utilized for. And so, we suffer.
[47:36] >> Dr. Sue, we're going to have to have a
[47:37] part two to this conversation sometime
[47:40] in the future, if you're willing.
[47:41] There's so much that uh is alive in me
[47:44] that I want to talk to you about here.
[47:46] Before we end though, just one more
[47:48] topic
[47:49] >> which is in our time many people are
[47:52] feeling challenged at the level of their
[47:55] nervous system. You know I hear you know
[47:57] who's sleeping who since the pandemic
[47:59] started who gets a good night's sleep?
[48:01] Nobody I know. And there's this sense of
[48:04] chronic nervous system dysregulation.
[48:08] And I've heard some people say, "Well,
[48:09] you know, Tammy, this is actually a sign
[48:13] of the times we're in in terms of
[48:16] accelerated spiritual growth and that
[48:20] the nervous systems we've had, we don't
[48:23] have the circuitry to handle the actual
[48:26] higher frequencies that are available."
[48:28] Now, that's one perspective. A lot of
[48:31] other people say, "No, I'm just scared
[48:32] of civilizational collapse, Tammy.
[48:35] Please just look at it the way it is." I
[48:37] wonder how you see it.
[48:38] >> Yeah, I do see it that we are in an
[48:40] evolutionary state. We are waking. We
[48:44] are capable of more things in terms of
[48:47] perceiving and tolerating uh the ideas
[48:50] of our own um the vastness of our being.
[48:54] Quantum science is is downloading more
[48:58] information into our worlds. Uh that
[49:00] we're going we're having to embrace a
[49:02] new science. We're having to recognize
[49:05] that our nervous system is sensory, not
[49:07] motor oriented. Meaning, we're smarter
[49:10] to learn to sense and feel the reality
[49:14] of of our true anatomy like we've been
[49:17] talking about here today. And and as we
[49:20] do, our systems begin to orient not to
[49:24] the news, but to a deeper truth, a
[49:27] timeless truth that has always been and
[49:29] will always be, whether this
[49:31] civilization makes it or not. What we
[49:33] really need to be doing is identifying
[49:35] as the one who can walk right through
[49:37] it, who can maintain their wherewithal
[49:40] to offer up creative solutions rather
[49:42] than getting caught up in the herd of
[49:44] being freaked out and and you know the
[49:46] mass hysteria that happens in so many
[49:49] ways. What is happening with this
[49:50] conversation about about regulating the
[49:53] nervous system is actually disregulating
[49:56] to the nervous system. Because when
[49:57] people are worried about how to regulate
[49:59] their nervous system, worry is the
[50:01] number one way to disregulate it. So we
[50:04] have to understand that the body was
[50:05] built, the nervous system was built to
[50:07] be self-regulating, self-healing, and
[50:09] self-elilluminating. We are built for
[50:11] that. So we're just not using our system
[50:13] properly. So if we would turn our
[50:15] attention to learning how to use our
[50:17] system properly, we would actually be
[50:21] regulating the system as an automatic
[50:23] byproduct of that. and the
[50:25] parasympathetic and sympathetic
[50:27] divisions of the autonomic nervous
[50:29] system are automatically going to come
[50:30] into balance if we bring a greater sense
[50:32] of harmony into the body. So my work for
[50:35] the last 26 years has been embodiment.
[50:38] It's been for the purpose of regulating
[50:40] the nervous system and also for the
[50:42] purpose of so much more of awakening to
[50:46] the truth of who we are. But we can't
[50:47] have that awakening if we're locked down
[50:50] in fight or flight because fight or
[50:52] flight is the illusionary world that
[50:54] we're caught up in because we're living
[50:55] from our five senses. And so what I'm
[50:58] trying to do with this book and the
[51:00] coursework that I'm teaching is to allow
[51:04] people to remember the rest of who they
[51:06] are, which has the full-on capacity to
[51:09] move through these times with grace
[51:12] instead of being reactive and caught up
[51:14] in, you know, what the outer world is
[51:16] presenting. That that the outer world is
[51:19] presenting so much chaos is definitely
[51:22] going to evolve us because we have to
[51:25] deal with it. And it's sort of a
[51:26] backside of the model way of approaching
[51:28] it, but it works. And there's a better
[51:32] way, an easier way, which is I what I
[51:34] call the this quantum flip on the front
[51:36] side of the model is is really embracing
[51:39] what is happening and loving how it is
[51:43] evolving us. And so all we need to do is
[51:46] learn how it is evolving us, which is
[51:49] what I talk about all the time. When
[51:51] we're when we're once we get past this
[51:53] anatomical layout, we can talk about how
[51:56] do we use it? How do we work with it?
[51:58] How do we enliven these aspects of our
[52:00] consciousness so that they get to have a
[52:02] vote in how we sleep? They get to have a
[52:05] vote in how we interpret what's going on
[52:07] in the news. They get to have a vote in
[52:09] how we translate our past and and move
[52:12] from it into the present free and clear
[52:15] in an undistorted version of ourselves.
[52:18] And so, so it's it's um that those are a
[52:22] few things that I think about it.
[52:23] [laughter]
[52:24] >> And just to be sure to leave our
[52:27] listeners in a a grounded and
[52:29] wellresourced place,
[52:31] >> what would you say to that person who
[52:32] says, "I'm inspired by the model. I
[52:35] even, you know, I I kind of gro it,
[52:38] >> the spherical breath, great, but I still
[52:41] find myself wobbly right now." What can
[52:45] Dr. Sue suggest as an easy practice that
[52:48] I can do at this time.
[52:50] >> Oh, you bet. So, right now, you follow
[52:52] the wobble. You ask, "Where in my body
[52:56] is this wobble coming from?" And and and
[52:59] I'm going to give you something else
[53:00] here, right? As fast as I can here
[53:02] because I know your time is, you know,
[53:04] our time is is scheduled. But there are
[53:07] four anchor points here within the body.
[53:10] The most effective of which is the at at
[53:13] the tip of the spine. And at the tip of
[53:16] the spine, we can squeeze the
[53:18] musculature there, which is sort of like
[53:20] a kego exercise. It's called mulab. And
[53:23] it means root lock. It means if you're
[53:25] up and in this spaciousness of this, you
[53:27] know, a big expansive conversation or if
[53:30] you're just up and in some expansiveness
[53:32] of worrying or being out thinking about
[53:34] the future and and out of sorts in any
[53:37] way, you squeeze this moola sort of like
[53:40] a keo exercise. And what happens
[53:41] instantly is your energy rushes to the
[53:44] rootedness of your being. And then you
[53:46] exhale right down into the earth with
[53:48] your vision on that chakra 10. That's 2
[53:51] feet into the earth. And then you take a
[53:53] breath up from there. So So here's how
[53:55] you do it. If you were going to the
[53:56] bathroom and you had to stop the stream
[53:58] instantly, you would squeeze these
[53:59] muscles in the perennium uh in the
[54:01] pineal floor in the pelvic floor. You
[54:03] squeeze these muscles. Squeeze them with
[54:05] everything you got right now and take a
[54:06] belly breath [snorts] and then relax
[54:09] them by one half.
[54:10] and take another belly breath.
[54:13] And then relax that by one half again,
[54:16] but keep something there. And take
[54:19] another belly breath. And when you
[54:21] exhale, exhale into the earth each time.
[54:24] And when you inhale, inhale up from the
[54:26] earth through that that small gentle
[54:30] touch, that contraction at the base of
[54:32] the spine. That contraction at the base
[54:34] of the spine anchors you instantly. It's
[54:38] directly associated with chakra 1. And
[54:41] when you exhale into the earth, now
[54:43] you're combining chakra 10 and chakra 1,
[54:46] which is a super anchoring project. It's
[54:49] a super anchoring process. So you can do
[54:52] that. Another one that's very easy is to
[54:54] roll your shoulders up and back and
[54:56] down. Pull your blades together, drop
[54:58] them down your spine, and it activates
[55:01] this one in the center of the spine. And
[55:03] in the activation of that, what happens
[55:06] is your heart stabilizes. And when your
[55:08] heart stabilizes, it changes the
[55:10] chemistry. It changes the signaling. It
[55:12] changes everything. Heart coherence so
[55:14] much easier if you'll just anchor
[55:16] yourself back here. Let me just show you
[55:17] here that this this right here is this
[55:21] heart center. And if we pull this and
[55:24] connect it to this, what happens is this
[55:27] whole central channel starts to route
[55:30] itself into the earth. And that's that's
[55:35] what we want. We want to be grounded. We
[55:37] want to be stable. And and if there's,
[55:40] you know, just a couple of more minutes,
[55:43] I or less, I can tell you that.
[55:46] >> Take your time, Dr. Sue. You're you're
[55:48] bringing us the elixir we need.
[55:51] >> Okay. Good. Good. Here we go. So, back
[55:53] to this image. If there's a gap here
[55:56] somewhere, interference, we'll just call
[55:58] it interference. Many people would call
[56:00] it their blockages. I'm saying there's
[56:02] no thing in you that you need to get rid
[56:04] of. You don't have a blockage. There's
[56:06] no problem. There's just circuits that
[56:08] haven't been built yet. So, to build the
[56:10] energetic circuitry, here's what we can
[56:12] do. If you are triggered about
[56:14] something, your body is how you're going
[56:17] to land yourself. We have to remember
[56:19] this. We came here to embody. We're in
[56:21] the physical world, our physical body
[56:23] has everything to do with why we're
[56:25] here. Okay? So, let's just envision
[56:28] right now that that in the doorway of
[56:30] the room that you're sitting in right
[56:32] now, someone who triggers you walks into
[56:34] that doorway and you feel it. Your body
[56:37] reacts. Your energy rushes over to them.
[56:40] Your heart starts pounding. You feel
[56:42] empty and likely some sort of
[56:45] nervousness or shakiness is accompanying
[56:48] that in some way. someone you've had a
[56:50] difficult time with in the past. They
[56:52] represented in some way. Maybe it's a
[56:53] situation, not even a person. It could
[56:55] be a life circumstance. You know, the
[56:57] the the money's not there or the the the
[57:01] person who left you or whatever it might
[57:03] be, the job that you can't find,
[57:04] whatever. Put it in the doorway and look
[57:06] at it and all of your energy rushes over
[57:09] there. And we have to realize that that
[57:11] you are made of photons, little
[57:13] particles of light. All right? And
[57:14] photons rush wherever your consciousness
[57:16] goes. Where your attention goes, energy
[57:19] flows. So your energy is rushing out of
[57:21] you and onto that them there. Okay? So
[57:26] that's called you being on an object
[57:28] instead of being on self, on subject. So
[57:31] look at them in the doorway and secretly
[57:34] just pull your energy back onto you.
[57:37] Just secretly pull it back home and take
[57:40] a belly breath. Squeeze mulab. Squeeze
[57:43] your shoulder blades down your spine.
[57:46] You're pulling these little photons
[57:48] right back in to self on self. You can
[57:52] still look at them and talk with them,
[57:54] but if you literally multitask at the
[57:56] same moment, pull this energy back onto
[57:59] self, you will feel like a different
[58:02] individual. You will feel different in
[58:04] this world, especially relative to this.
[58:07] Then you're going to take it a step
[58:08] further and you're going to ask, "Where
[58:11] in my system
[58:13] am I leaking energy onto them?" Because
[58:17] these little areas right here, it's
[58:19] going to leak. It's going to that's
[58:21] where it's going to be sucked right out
[58:22] and you're projecting all your power
[58:24] over there on them instead of using that
[58:28] moment to heal yourself up right here.
[58:30] So here's what we do. We just ask where
[58:33] in my body could I build the circuitry,
[58:36] the energetic circuitry to clear this up
[58:38] and make it look like this to move it
[58:40] closer and closer to this. And your mind
[58:43] is going to answer that question not
[58:44] with words. It's going to go. It's going
[58:46] to be thinking about this or it's going
[58:48] to be thinking about your chest or it's
[58:49] going to be thinking about your solar
[58:51] plexus or your gut below the naval
[58:53] something. It's just going to go
[58:55] somewhere. Your attention is going to go
[58:57] there. Even if your mind is working
[58:59] overtime and saying, "I don't feel
[59:02] anything. I don't know what you're
[59:03] talking about. I can't." You're you'll
[59:05] notice that you're extra aware of this
[59:08] area or this area or this area in your
[59:10] body at this time. And so in this,
[59:15] you now have found
[59:17] what you're supposed to be doing with
[59:19] your attention. So you go there with all
[59:22] of your attention. Let's say your mind
[59:24] landed below your navl in your gut or
[59:27] maybe it landed in your stomach area
[59:29] solar plexus or maybe it went right to
[59:31] your chest or maybe it took you right to
[59:34] the center of your brain. Wherever your
[59:36] mind went, that's the system mind, body,
[59:40] and breath trying to work together the
[59:43] way that they were designed to work
[59:45] together. But because we've been
[59:47] overthinking, the mind isn't in touch
[59:50] with the body and the breath. It's
[59:52] developed in ways body breath or just
[59:54] holding down the fort. They're not
[59:56] really in direct connection and
[59:58] communication. But this is how we start
[1:00:00] to knit them back together. You go
[1:00:02] wherever in your body your mind goes
[1:00:04] when you ask a simple question. Where in
[1:00:07] my body could I build the circuitry to
[1:00:10] be able to better handle this kind of
[1:00:11] situation and others? [snorts] And and
[1:00:15] then what happens? You go there and you
[1:00:17] sit in that spot and you breathe.
[1:00:21] And in that breath you love and you give
[1:00:26] it everything you've got right in there.
[1:00:29] And you find ways to let go of other
[1:00:32] thoughts and other ways of being
[1:00:36] that don't matter in this moment.
[1:00:39] Because 100% of you is supposed to go
[1:00:41] into this this place in your gut, in
[1:00:44] your heart, in your throat, in your
[1:00:46] naval area, wherever it is. And
[1:00:51] what will happen is that area will start
[1:00:54] to sit down. It will you will feel like
[1:00:58] you're you're there in some way that you
[1:01:00] weren't before. And the more you love
[1:01:03] inside that part of you specifically,
[1:01:08] the more dramatically you will feel what
[1:01:10] I'm talking about right now. And so when
[1:01:13] you sit down in that area and are loving
[1:01:16] and breathing, it lands. And when it
[1:01:20] lands, then you begin this central
[1:01:24] channel breath. You take a breath from
[1:01:27] wherever it had you and you exhale into
[1:01:29] the earth. Just exhale into the earth
[1:01:32] right through your pelvis straight down
[1:01:34] as if you could breathe through the tip
[1:01:36] of your spine. And then you take a
[1:01:38] breath up from the tip of your through
[1:01:40] from the earth through the tip of your
[1:01:42] spine through mulab that you're
[1:01:44] contracting into wherever this area was
[1:01:47] that brought you and then you exhale
[1:01:50] from that area out the top of this
[1:01:53] central channel because what you're
[1:01:55] doing I I'll tell you in a minute now
[1:01:57] breathe in again from overhead right
[1:01:59] back into that area wherever it was and
[1:02:03] then exhale down into the earth again.
[1:02:08] And in that, what you're doing, you can
[1:02:11] do it two or three times. What you're
[1:02:12] doing is you're reestablishing this.
[1:02:16] You're moving it right through here in
[1:02:18] ways that are destined and designed to
[1:02:22] be organized in your system. I'm so
[1:02:24] sorry.
[1:02:30] So in that we're building the energetic
[1:02:33] circuitry that allows us to start moving
[1:02:36] from here. So one triggered moment by
[1:02:39] another by another by another by another
[1:02:43] is going to direct you in how to clean
[1:02:45] this up
[1:02:47] without trying to figure out the story.
[1:02:49] You're just working with the raw energy
[1:02:51] underneath. And that's what we're here
[1:02:54] to do. Not get involved in the drama.
[1:02:57] not think we have to go get the
[1:02:58] forgiveness of someone or forgive them
[1:03:00] or let them know. It's all about
[1:03:04] your levels of consciousness that you
[1:03:06] are embracing and allowing to become
[1:03:08] animated. And when you do those
[1:03:11] forgivenesses, they take care of
[1:03:12] themselves. Those letting go of things
[1:03:14] that we try so hard to do, they take
[1:03:16] care of themselves. And you know,
[1:03:18] lastly, I'll just say, Tammy, the reason
[1:03:19] for my scoliosis was this. Look, can you
[1:03:22] see how scoliosis would exist right
[1:03:24] there in a beautiful way? is just
[1:03:26] because of aspects of our greatness that
[1:03:28] we haven't embraced, aspects of our
[1:03:30] wholeness that we haven't animated, that
[1:03:32] we don't even know what they are. So,
[1:03:34] this is a way of getting them enlivened
[1:03:37] without us having to figure it out
[1:03:39] intellectually because actually our mind
[1:03:42] is is the last to know. There's so much
[1:03:45] more wisdom on the rise that what we
[1:03:47] want to do is train the mind to listen
[1:03:49] and to be the steward of this system
[1:03:52] that we're talking about instead of
[1:03:53] trying to use our minds to override our
[1:03:56] fears and our concerns about what's
[1:03:59] happening in the world today. We just
[1:04:01] need to become a stabilizing presence.
[1:04:03] And as a byproduct of that, we end up
[1:04:06] walking straight through things instead
[1:04:08] of having to try to outrun them or hide
[1:04:11] from them in some way. you know, as the
[1:04:14] world is doing right now.
[1:04:17] >> Some people might say our conversation
[1:04:19] was esoteric. I have to say I found it
[1:04:21] extraordinarily practical.
[1:04:24] >> Thank you so much. And I do hope to come
[1:04:26] back around with you for uh part two.
[1:04:29] I've been speaking I will I will Dr. Sue
[1:04:32] Mortar. We're talking about her book,
[1:04:34] The Anatomy of Awakening and the
[1:04:36] Energetic Architecture that supports our
[1:04:40] full potential [music]
[1:04:42] here and now. Thank you so much, Dr.
[1:04:44] Sue. Really loved the conversation.
[1:04:47] >> Thank you for the invitation and thank
[1:04:48] you, Tammy, for all that you've done for
[1:04:49] so many years, for so many people in so
[1:04:52] many [music] ways. It's it's a true
[1:04:54] inspiration for humanity. So, thank you.
[1:04:57] Many blessings. Blessings to you.
[1:05:01] Candy. Super.
[1:05:04] Super.
[1:05:06] Super.