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[0:04] In a very disturbed [music] and
[0:09] demented mind, in that womb, something
[0:13] most beautiful may come.
[0:15] Certain kings, when they wanted to put
[0:18] their enemies to death,
[0:21] they made them see all kinds of things
[0:23] [music]
[0:24] so that he suffers a long hell.
[0:26] The very rare he's reached such a point
[0:28] of consciousness
[0:30] and still he's choosing [music] a womb.
[0:33] You know, all the technologies, I want
[0:34] you to understand. You see, if I
[0:36] initiate you into certain process, you
[0:37] will see
[0:41] If you do certain things to imbibe the
[0:43] moonlight into you, you will get really
[0:46] drunk. The influence and the impact of
[0:48] the moon is much stronger on the day
[0:50] when you cannot see him there
[0:52] completely.
[0:53] Totally drunk where their legs have
[0:55] become rubbery sometimes. Shiva
[0:57] constantly drank soma rasa.
[1:03] You neither have to choose spirituality
[1:07] nor do you have to be called.
[1:11] You think I'm a material being dabbling
[1:14] with spirituality.
[1:18] If you lose your body,
[1:21] you don't lose your karma.
[1:23] If you lose your mind, you don't lose
[1:25] your karma.
[1:26] Too many backup systems. When a person
[1:28] dies, still the karmic body still keeps
[1:32] life going in its own way. Whatever the
[1:34] tendency set for, that is the kind of
[1:36] spaces towards which you naturally move.
[1:41] >> In Mystic's Musings, it's written that
[1:44] karma makes you settle down in some
[1:46] particular womb with those kinds of
[1:49] tendencies and with those kinds of
[1:51] attributes. Then how come two children
[1:53] born to the same mother can be so
[1:56] different?
[1:58] >> Katta meetha.
[2:01] >> [snorts]
[2:04] >> So,
[2:12] this opens up to many things.
[2:16] >> [clears throat]
[2:22] >> When we utter the word karma, let's be
[2:24] clear about this.
[2:27] When we utter the word karma,
[2:30] generally these days, it's in much usage
[2:34] around the world. Karma is an English
[2:35] word now.
[2:38] Karma.
[2:43] So,
[2:47] when we utter the word karma,
[2:49] we are not talking about
[2:55] either you being punished for your
[2:58] activity,
[3:00] or you being rewarded for your activity.
[3:02] That's a silly idea.
[3:06] Karma means action.
[3:09] The word karma literally means action.
[3:13] We are referring to past action.
[3:15] What are the types of activity you can
[3:17] perform?
[3:19] You can perform physical activity,
[3:21] mental activity, emotional activity,
[3:24] energy activity. And these four levels
[3:26] you're active.
[3:29] Every single action that you perform,
[3:31] either with your body, mind, emotion, or
[3:35] your energy, leaves a residue.
[3:38] Leaves a record of itself.
[3:44] So, this accumulated
[3:47] impressions,
[3:49] this accumulated heap of information, it
[3:52] is information.
[3:54] Without karma,
[3:57] you wouldn't have any particular
[3:59] characteristic to yourself.
[4:02] You would be
[4:04] a characteristic.
[4:08] You would be
[4:09] without any sense
[4:12] or any idea of
[4:15] what kind of person you are. There
[4:17] wouldn't be any personality. Only
[4:19] because there is a bank of information,
[4:21] there is a personality, isn't it?
[4:24] So, this is just an accumulated
[4:26] information.
[4:28] Or
[4:29] this is
[4:31] an unconscious software that you
[4:33] created.
[4:35] Karma means action.
[4:37] Whose action?
[4:40] Whose action?
[4:42] Your action.
[4:45] So, these days people are using the term
[4:48] karma like I owe karma.
[4:53] Means it's being dropped upon them from
[4:55] somewhere.
[4:57] The word karma simply means
[5:01] this is my action.
[5:03] There are many aspects of life I am
[5:04] unable to understand.
[5:07] But it has to be my karma.
[5:10] That means it is my unconscious action
[5:13] which is producing this result right
[5:14] now.
[5:19] Physical reality, physical existence
[5:21] always happens between cause and effect.
[5:27] Right now, you're either enjoying the
[5:29] effect or suffering the effect.
[5:32] But can there be an effect without a
[5:35] cause?
[5:37] Can there be an effect without a cause?
[5:40] It is just that you might have become
[5:41] short-sighted that you're unable to see
[5:43] the cause. But without a cause, there
[5:46] cannot be an effect.
[5:48] This cause is referred to as karma.
[5:53] Karma goes far beyond your present
[5:55] levels of understanding. Let's not go
[5:58] into that.
[6:00] But from the moment you were born to
[6:02] this moment
[6:04] all the activity that you have performed
[6:06] physically, mentally, emotionally, and
[6:09] energy wise,
[6:10] is it ruling your life right now?
[6:15] Yes or no?
[6:16] The very way you think, feel,
[6:18] understand, and experience your life is
[6:21] dependent on your karma, isn't it?
[6:26] Everything that you experience right
[6:28] now, the very way you understand the
[6:29] words that I'm speaking, depends on your
[6:32] karma. According to your karma,
[6:34] you have a certain interpretation of it.
[6:39] So, karma is deciding everything about
[6:42] you.
[6:45] So, this karmic process
[6:47] is alive and on.
[6:49] It is stored on many different levels.
[6:52] It is stored in your memory. It is
[6:54] stored in your body.
[6:57] It is stored in your sensations. It is
[7:00] stored in your life energies itself. The
[7:02] very life energy carries
[7:05] the information.
[7:09] This may sound a little far-fetched
[7:11] right now, but you will see,
[7:13] I don't know in how much time, but in
[7:14] some time, definitely this will happen.
[7:17] You know, we our technology, our
[7:19] information technology,
[7:22] from the stone tablet days
[7:26] to the present day of blue chip,
[7:28] has come a long way.
[7:32] There was a time when we had to carve
[7:34] everything on the stone.
[7:36] Today,
[7:37] what could go into a billion stone less
[7:39] slabs is going into one little chip.
[7:44] It will not be far away before
[7:47] we will find a way to store information
[7:49] on the energy itself.
[7:51] I'm saying this
[7:53] because
[7:54] this is how my body is.
[7:57] This is how life is happening within me.
[7:59] The very life energy carries
[8:01] information.
[8:02] You will see.
[8:05] If I put all of you into If I initiate
[8:07] you, which we cannot do in a space like
[8:09] this. If I initiate you into certain
[8:11] process, you will see each person's
[8:13] energy responds in a different way for
[8:15] the same initiation.
[8:17] Depending upon how it is already
[8:19] programmed.
[8:23] Different people go in different ways.
[8:25] People who have been in the programs you
[8:26] have seen, each person goes in his own
[8:28] way depending upon how his energies are
[8:31] programmed.
[8:33] So, what you call as karma is an
[8:37] unconscious software that you build on
[8:38] all levels.
[8:41] It is everywhere.
[8:43] From body to mind to sensation to
[8:46] energy.
[8:49] If you lose your body,
[8:52] you don't lose your karma.
[8:54] If you lose your mind, you don't lose
[8:56] your karma.
[8:59] Whatever happens, you don't lose your
[9:01] karma.
[9:02] Because there are too many backup
[9:04] systems.
[9:06] So, when a person dies, he lost his
[9:09] body, he lost his conscious mind,
[9:11] but still the karmic body still keeps
[9:14] life going in its own way. It is just
[9:16] that the discretionary power is gone.
[9:20] Because the discretionary power is gone,
[9:22] it functions by tendencies.
[9:25] Whatever the accumulated tendency is
[9:27] according to the information that's
[9:29] gathered or the karma that is within,
[9:31] accordingly it finds its way.
[9:35] If you have pleasant information within
[9:37] you,
[9:38] your pleasantness will be enhanced
[9:40] because there is no discretionary mind
[9:43] to spoil this.
[9:45] See, yesterday
[9:47] you passed an examination or yesterday
[9:49] you got married.
[9:51] This information is there with you. See,
[9:52] it's memory. If I wipe out the memory,
[9:55] you don't know whether you're married or
[9:56] not married. Let's say yesterday you got
[9:58] married, this information is fresh in
[10:01] your mind. Oh, I'm just married. I'm
[10:03] because the whole society has told you
[10:05] if you're married you must be happy.
[10:09] Later on they tell you reveal other
[10:11] things you, but at least they tell you
[10:14] that when you're married, it is
[10:16] bliss, marital bliss.
[10:20] The information is there. That's why
[10:22] you keep yourself
[10:24] very happy. You just take off the
[10:26] information.
[10:29] You don't know.
[10:31] So, this information is influencing you
[10:34] and keeping you happy right now.
[10:37] But now the person that you're married
[10:39] to did something that you don't like.
[10:42] Now, because of the information that I'm
[10:44] married and I'm supposed to be happy,
[10:46] especially because of that, that little
[10:48] thing that somebody did becomes
[10:51] magnified in a huge way. Isn't it so?
[10:55] If you were not married, if you were not
[10:57] told marriage is about bliss, if they
[11:00] had told you right from the day one
[11:02] marriage is about misery, marriage is
[11:03] about misery, which they're doing
[11:05] anyway,
[11:06] >> [laughter]
[11:08] >> then if somebody did some nasty thing,
[11:11] anyway, this is what it is supposed to
[11:13] be. It's okay. At least he's not too
[11:15] nasty.
[11:17] At least he's not thrashing me. You
[11:18] know, some In some societies, people
[11:20] have been prepared for this.
[11:23] When you get married, so many horrible
[11:24] things will happen to you. Don't get
[11:26] disturbed. Everything will be okay.
[11:28] Everything will be okay. They have told
[11:29] you. Such people don't get very
[11:31] disturbed.
[11:33] There are other people who have been
[11:34] told marital bliss. Their expectations
[11:37] are big.
[11:38] And they have this memory, I'm just
[11:40] married, I must be really blissful. If
[11:42] that bliss doesn't happen, they crash.
[11:45] The misery is magnified.
[11:49] As long as the discretionary mind is
[11:51] there,
[11:52] whatever happens, you can still use your
[11:55] discretion to go beyond that.
[11:57] Once the discretionary mind is not
[11:59] there, you're all by tendencies,
[12:01] whatever the tendency set forth.
[12:03] So,
[12:05] once the body is dropped, once there is
[12:07] no discretion, the tendencies rule.
[12:10] Traditionally, we refer to these
[12:13] tendencies as vasanas.
[12:16] You know, you heard [clears throat] of
[12:17] this word? Vasana literally means
[12:20] fragrance or smell.
[12:23] So, whatever the kind of garbage you
[12:25] have
[12:27] I'm sorry, whatever the kind of flowers
[12:28] you have within you.
[12:32] That kind of smell.
[12:35] Whatever the kind of smell
[12:37] that is the kind of life you attract to
[12:40] yourself. And that is the kind of spaces
[12:42] towards which you naturally move.
[12:45] So, if you're functioning unconsciously,
[12:48] the karma rules absolutely.
[12:51] If you bring a certain level of
[12:52] awareness, the karmic power
[12:55] the power of the karma over your life
[12:58] weakens.
[12:59] But, when you're talking about life
[13:01] beyond the body
[13:03] there there is no discretion, so karma
[13:05] rules absolutely.
[13:07] So, if you have pleasantness, pleasant
[13:10] karma inside you, it gets magnified. And
[13:14] you become very pleasurable.
[13:16] So, this we refer to as heaven. Heaven
[13:19] is not a geographical place.
[13:22] It is right here. But, you are in
[13:25] heaven.
[13:26] In this world also, some people are in
[13:28] heaven, some people are in hell. Isn't
[13:29] it so?
[13:31] Isn't it so?
[13:34] We sit in the same place. One person is
[13:37] experiencing heaven. Another person is
[13:38] experiencing hell right there next to
[13:41] them.
[13:42] So, it is not a geographical place. It
[13:45] is an inner state.
[13:46] Similarly, if there is pain and misery
[13:49] then that also get magnified because
[13:52] there is no discretionary mind to avoid
[13:54] that. Right now, something happened that
[13:56] you don't like.
[13:57] You became miserable. But then, you
[13:59] employ your discretionary mind and said,
[14:01] "This is enough. Let me get out of this
[14:03] nonsense."
[14:04] And you come out of it.
[14:06] But, suppose you have no discretion.
[14:08] Now, this misery gets magnified a
[14:10] million times over. That is hell.
[14:15] So, how much hell or how much heaven you
[14:17] go through
[14:21] simply depends upon how much vibrance is
[14:24] still left in you.
[14:25] If you died of old age where life has
[14:27] become very feeble, you just go through
[14:29] a very short space.
[14:31] If you have vibrant energies,
[14:33] you broke your body halfway.
[14:36] Now, if you're pleasant, you go through
[14:38] lot of pleasantness. If you're
[14:39] unpleasant, you go through lot of
[14:41] unpleasantness.
[14:42] Till the energies become feeble enough
[14:44] and start seeking a another body.
[14:47] So, when it starts seeking,
[14:50] it, according to its tendencies, it
[14:53] tends to move towards a particular type
[14:56] of womb.
[14:57] It is a selection. You're actually
[14:59] choosing your womb, but unconsciously.
[15:02] You can also choose it consciously.
[15:06] To see that, in India, it is very
[15:08] common. Everywhere in the world, it is
[15:10] there to some extent. When a person is
[15:12] dying, it doesn't matter what kind of
[15:15] life he lived. Read the Gita, say Ram
[15:18] Ram, do something. The idea is to create
[15:22] some kind of pleasantness.
[15:26] Because at least that last moment of
[15:28] transition from life to death, if you
[15:30] create pleasantness, pleasantness can
[15:33] become the dominant quality in his life.
[15:35] That's the idea.
[15:37] At the same time, the other idea is also
[15:40] there.
[15:42] In
[15:44] this has happened in the past.
[15:48] Certain kings, when they wanted to put
[15:51] their enemies to death,
[15:54] they made them see all kinds of things.
[15:57] The idea is to create desire.
[15:59] They will get naked woman in front of
[16:01] them. They will sexually
[16:05] arouse them and then kill them. The idea
[16:07] is he must die in a desiring state so
[16:10] that he suffers a long hell.
[16:14] You know all the technologies. I want
[16:15] you to understand.
[16:20] People actually did this. In this
[16:21] country, it is very much there.
[16:23] Everywhere they have some understanding
[16:25] of this.
[16:27] And they do it in their own ways. Here,
[16:29] we organized it a little more.
[16:32] Because it's a long history, you know, a
[16:34] long stable culture. So, all these
[16:37] things were explored in detail.
[16:42] So, when it choose when this life begins
[16:44] to choose a womb,
[16:46] by tendency it is going.
[16:48] Unless a being has come to such a level
[16:51] of consciousness that he can choose
[16:53] consciously, which is rare.
[16:55] Because if he's conscious enough, he
[16:57] would have dissolved. The very rare he's
[16:59] reached such a point of consciousness
[17:02] and still he's choosing a womb.
[17:05] Except those, rest will choose by
[17:07] tendency. So, the same womb, why?
[17:12] They were penetrated by two different
[17:15] types of karmic substances. That's the
[17:17] question. Why is it?
[17:24] One aspect of this is
[17:28] there was very elaborate care taken
[17:31] about these things in this country.
[17:34] In the tradition, maybe not anymore, but
[17:36] still to some extent. People are not
[17:38] conscious about it, but still they're
[17:40] doing it as simple rituals.
[17:43] You need to understand today so many
[17:45] things have come, the pill has come, the
[17:47] contraceptive has come, all this.
[17:49] Otherwise,
[17:50] whatever the day they get married, that
[17:53] day
[17:55] the woman conceives.
[17:57] Always, it was the date for her wedding
[18:00] was chosen in such a way that she will
[18:02] be in a right state to conceive, the
[18:04] best time of the month and everything
[18:05] for her. Always it was fixed like that.
[18:08] So, the very first day she will
[18:10] conceive. So, a whole atmosphere was
[18:12] created.
[18:14] A whole atmosphere as to how it should
[18:16] be.
[18:18] As pleasant as it is possible, as loving
[18:20] as it's possible, as beautiful as it's
[18:22] possible, so that this conception itself
[18:25] happens in a certain pleasantness.
[18:30] So, [snorts] that is one factor. If
[18:32] conception has happened in a certain
[18:34] state of pleasantness, either joy or
[18:36] love or simply whatever kind of
[18:38] pleasantness, it will attract certain
[18:41] type of life.
[18:43] >> [sighs]
[18:44] >> If it has happened in a certain state of
[18:46] unpleasantness, it can attract certain
[18:48] other type of life. This doesn't mean
[18:51] the child is going to be good, this
[18:52] child is going to be bad. That is not
[18:54] the way it is.
[18:56] See, right now,
[18:59] if you have a flower, a bee will come.
[19:04] If you have a mango,
[19:07] a fly will come.
[19:09] If you have a lump of there,
[19:11] for that also the fly will go.
[19:14] So, the fly goes for both.
[19:17] So, you cannot determine, only for
[19:19] sweetness this will come. No, just
[19:21] because it's the opposite it may come.
[19:24] In a very disturbed and
[19:29] demented mind,
[19:31] in that womb, something most beautiful
[19:34] may come because it may seek the
[19:35] opposite.
[19:37] So, you cannot decide like that, but
[19:39] some tendency is driving that to that
[19:43] womb.
[19:44] So, it is not for you to go about
[19:46] judging.
[19:47] So, because I have this kind of child,
[19:50] am I this kind of person?
[19:52] In spite of you, the child may be
[19:53] wonderful.
[19:56] It may not be because of you.
[20:02] You are the way you are because of you.
[20:05] The child is the way he is because of
[20:07] himself.
[20:08] But, because he comes to you at such a
[20:11] tender state,
[20:14] you have the capability to influence him
[20:16] to some extent. You can either enhance
[20:19] his pleasantness or enhance his
[20:21] unpleasantness.
[20:23] This option you have, but not totally.
[20:26] Never totally. Nobody can make their
[20:29] children 100%
[20:31] only to some extent.
[20:34] Only to some extent. The less you try to
[20:37] influence influence them, the more they
[20:39] get influenced by you. You need to
[20:41] understand this.
[20:43] The more you try to influence them, the
[20:45] less they're influenced by you.
[20:48] Always.
[20:50] >> Namaskaram, Sadhguru.
[20:52] How can we break free from our
[20:53] psychological conditioning?
[20:56] >> This process
[21:00] of
[21:02] what we refer to as
[21:04] yoga means transcending the limitations
[21:08] of
[21:10] mental modifications.
[21:14] The psychological structure of the mind
[21:16] is functioning
[21:18] from a bank of information
[21:22] and identifications that you've taken
[21:24] on.
[21:26] This has happened to you any number of
[21:27] times.
[21:31] Today you think this is a wonderful
[21:33] person and you said, "She's my friend."
[21:37] Your thought, your emotion, everything
[21:38] flows in a certain way.
[21:40] Tomorrow you just tell yourself, "She's
[21:42] horrible. She's my enemy." Suddenly
[21:45] everything justifies that. Have you
[21:47] noticed this?
[21:49] You should go to the LOC and try this.
[21:53] You stand on this side and say I'm an
[21:54] Indian, everything works one way. You
[21:57] cross the border and say I'm a
[21:58] Pakistani, everything works a different
[22:00] way.
[22:02] It's just the identity, what you're
[22:04] identified with.
[22:06] Your mind is deeply deeply enslaved to
[22:09] that. You cannot think beyond that. You
[22:11] cannot perceive anything beyond that.
[22:15] So, if our perception has to be cleared
[22:17] up
[22:18] for higher possibilities,
[22:22] if our perception has to be cleared up
[22:25] for a deeper experience of life,
[22:31] if our perception
[22:32] has to be cleared up
[22:34] for our becoming more existential than
[22:38] psychological.
[22:39] Right now, what you call as myself is
[22:42] just a bundle of thoughts, emotions,
[22:44] ideas, and opinions, which you all
[22:47] picked up from somewhere else.
[22:50] So, when you pick up too many things
[22:52] from all over,
[22:53] and you hope to make it into someone
[22:57] possibility,
[22:58] which is what your personality is,
[23:01] it is totally in disharmony with
[23:04] existence, whatever kind of personality
[23:07] you have.
[23:08] You have a very pleasant personality or
[23:10] an unpleasant personality, it doesn't
[23:12] matter what kind. In fact, very humble
[23:15] personalities are more trouble
[23:17] than brash ones.
[23:20] Brash ones are easily caught.
[23:23] These very humble ones are polished
[23:25] ones, they slip through everything.
[23:27] They are difficult.
[23:31] As you polish
[23:33] this process,
[23:35] the accumulated process that you have,
[23:37] you will see
[23:39] the possibility of knowing anything
[23:41] becomes further and further away.
[23:44] So, this is not about doing this or
[23:46] that,
[23:47] creating a little distance from
[23:49] everything that you know, everything
[23:51] that you believe,
[23:52] everything that you have identified with
[23:55] when you sit here, is important,
[23:57] otherwise
[24:00] you will just listen to the words.
[24:03] You don't have to come here. You can
[24:04] just read the dictionary.
[24:08] This
[24:10] See here.
[24:13] You will see India is the right now
[24:16] our national pastime is software.
[24:20] So, we can easily make a software
[24:23] where if you feed all the words in the
[24:25] dictionary and say produce something
[24:27] spiritual,
[24:28] whatever kind of spirituality you want,
[24:30] it'll pick up all the right words and
[24:32] give it to you.
[24:33] Yes, it's not far away.
[24:36] So, it's not the words.
[24:38] If you just carry the words, it doesn't
[24:40] mean anything.
[24:43] The horrible words are simply because
[24:44] there is no other way to keep your
[24:46] attention.
[24:51] So, you I want you to just be with me
[24:54] without
[24:57] This is not to learn anything. This is
[25:00] not to unlearn anything. This is not to
[25:02] be this way or that way.
[25:04] Simply
[25:05] just being here.
[25:09] It's okay your mind is running crazy.
[25:11] Don't try to stop it.
[25:13] No matter what you can do, what you do,
[25:15] it cannot stop.
[25:18] And why should it stop?
[25:20] Oh, I'm in a spiritual discourse. My
[25:22] mind should not be running.
[25:25] Why are you prejudiced prejudiced
[25:26] against the mind like this?
[25:29] You never say, "I'm in a spiritual
[25:31] discourse. My heart should stop.
[25:34] My breath should stop." Do you wish
[25:36] something like that?
[25:38] You are allowing the body to continue
[25:40] its activity.
[25:42] Let the mind do its nonsense.
[25:46] You be here.
[25:47] Do you understand?
[25:49] Let the body do its nonsense, mind do
[25:52] its nonsense. The world is anyway doing
[25:54] it. You simply be here.
[25:58] If you try to stop the mental nonsense,
[26:01] you will go insane.
[26:03] Because you need to understand with your
[26:05] mind all the three pedals are throttles.
[26:08] There are no brakes, no clutch, no
[26:10] nothing. Whatever you touch, it only
[26:13] Have you noticed this?
[26:16] Have you noticed this with your mind?
[26:18] Whatever you try to do, it only goes
[26:19] faster. No brakes on it.
[26:23] If you just don't pay any attention to
[26:25] it, mind is just like you. It can't go
[26:27] on without attention.
[26:34] >> If you don't pay any attention to it,
[26:38] it'll slowly dwindle.
[26:40] So, don't try to learn, don't try to
[26:43] unlearn, don't try to control, nothing.
[26:46] Just simply being here.
[26:51] >> Namaskaram, Sadhguru. You mentioned
[26:53] about Shiva drinking somarasa. Why did
[26:56] he have to drink if he was a great yogi?
[27:00] >> The moon and mysticism are deeply
[27:03] linked.
[27:04] Doesn't matter if you cannot see him.
[27:05] He's there anyway. He's not gone.
[27:12] Just because you cannot see certain
[27:14] things, that doesn't mean anything has
[27:16] changed.
[27:21] There were two maroons.
[27:26] And one of them said,
[27:28] "For a vacation, let's go to the sun."
[27:32] Other said,
[27:33] "Maybe it'll be too hot out there."
[27:36] But this one said, "We'll go in the
[27:37] night."
[27:43] Just because your perception is limited,
[27:45] nothing has changed.
[27:47] Even it's a new moon day, moon is still
[27:49] on.
[27:50] Isn't
[27:51] still on actually?
[27:53] The influence and the impact of the moon
[27:55] is much stronger on the day when you
[27:57] cannot see him when the day and then the
[27:59] day when you can see him.
[28:03] Moon.
[28:05] Though in English
[28:06] we have said luna.
[28:10] You know, the next step.
[28:14] You know the next step?
[28:16] Lunatic.
[28:19] Why?
[28:21] The moon and madness
[28:23] is
[28:27] outside this culture,
[28:29] any kind of illogical behavior has
[28:32] always been termed as madness.
[28:35] We are a land of illogical. We are
[28:37] little where we need to be logical also
[28:40] very logical. That's a problem.
[28:42] But here illogical has always been
[28:45] accepted.
[28:46] So [clears throat] we called it Soma.
[28:49] Soma means intoxicating.
[28:54] There is a difference between
[28:55] intoxication
[28:57] and insanity, isn't it?
[29:01] Nobody seeks insanity,
[29:04] but people seek intoxication.
[29:08] People seek intoxication
[29:10] because they don't know how to put down
[29:15] the terrible logic of their mind which
[29:17] is going on breaking the world into
[29:18] pieces.
[29:22] You may not be getting along with
[29:24] anybody in your life,
[29:26] but with your drink drinking buddies
[29:28] you're real close.
[29:32] Because people who sit and drink
[29:33] together, somewhere they have found a
[29:36] little bit of oneness.
[29:40] Their logic and the resistance has
[29:41] melted down and they have laughed
[29:44] together. They have, you [snorts] know,
[29:48] sang songs together, maybe cried
[29:50] together,
[29:51] maybe rolled in the gutter together.
[29:55] They have done things that they wouldn't
[29:57] otherwise do.
[29:59] Someone who cannot even sing in the
[30:01] bathroom starts singing and dancing on
[30:03] the street
[30:05] because it loosened him up a little bit.
[30:08] So that is the essence of intoxication
[30:11] and that's the attraction of
[30:12] intoxication. So the moon is referred to
[30:17] as Soma.
[30:18] That means the source of intoxication.
[30:24] Been living too much in
[30:26] city lights.
[30:29] If you live in the city too much,
[30:33] you can get a traffic light syndrome.
[30:37] It happened once.
[30:43] There was a lady
[30:47] who was invited
[30:51] for a breakfast party.
[30:53] You know, these days it's becoming
[30:54] popular not just in the night because
[30:56] night parties are getting all stoned
[30:58] out.
[30:59] Some people who don't want to get stoned
[31:01] out,
[31:02] they're having breakfast parties.
[31:05] When sun is up, everything is alive,
[31:07] birds are chirping.
[31:10] So, they She was invited for a breakfast
[31:12] party.
[31:13] She said, "No, I cannot come for such a
[31:15] party because I have a traffic light
[31:18] syndrome."
[31:20] I asked, "What is traffic light
[31:21] syndrome?"
[31:22] "No, I have always been indoors.
[31:25] So, if I come out into the sun,
[31:28] my eyes will turn red, my skin skin goes
[31:31] yellow, and I feel green all over."
[31:37] So, if you have a traffic light
[31:39] syndrome, that's different.
[31:41] But, if you gone out somewhere where
[31:44] there are no electric lights,
[31:46] let's say on a full moon day or in a
[31:48] moonlight,
[31:49] if you're willing to [clears throat]
[31:50] just be with it, just looking at the
[31:52] moonlight, slowly you will get
[31:55] light-headed. Have you noticed this?
[31:59] Have you?
[32:01] If you do certain things to imbibe the
[32:03] moonlight into you, you will get really
[32:05] drunk.
[32:09] Just the moonlight.
[32:11] This is not logical, but
[32:15] you should see in the ashram
[32:17] how people get drunk means they're
[32:19] completely
[32:20] totally drunk where their legs have
[32:22] become rubbery sometimes.
[32:24] Just the moonlight.
[32:26] We can do it without the moonlight also,
[32:27] but
[32:28] moonlight does it very well.
[32:30] It's because of this quality of the
[32:32] moonlight that it is referred to as
[32:34] soma,
[32:36] source of intoxication.
[32:39] So, when we said Shiva constantly drank
[32:43] Soma rasa,
[32:46] he was not an alcoholic.
[32:48] He just imbibed the moonbeams, which he
[32:51] carried always in his hair,
[32:54] and constantly drunk.
[33:00] Am I speaking logically?
[33:02] Am I awake enough?
[33:04] You look into my eyes and see I'm stoned
[33:06] all the time.
[33:08] All the time drunk.
[33:12] It just takes a little
[33:14] to make it externally visible,
[33:17] but internally all the time drunk.
[33:21] Now,
[33:23] the science of yoga
[33:25] gives this pleasure to you.
[33:27] Now, this blissful state is not a goal
[33:29] by itself.
[33:32] This blissful states
[33:34] eliminate
[33:35] the fear of suffering.
[33:38] Only when the fear of suffering is gone,
[33:41] only when this idea what will happen to
[33:44] me is completely eliminated from you,
[33:47] you would dare
[33:48] to explore life. Otherwise, you only
[33:51] want to protect it.
[33:54] >> Sadhguru,
[33:56] do people choose spirituality or does
[33:59] spirituality choose them?
[34:05] >> It's a good question.
[34:15] Do people choose spirituality
[34:18] or spirituality chooses them?
[34:23] It's neither.
[34:25] Because
[34:27] what is your idea of spirituality?
[34:31] If your idea of spirituality is about
[34:35] going to the temple, doing Ram Ram,
[34:37] sitting in a church or a mosque or
[34:39] ashram or whatever,
[34:41] that's your
[34:43] Maybe they are also calling.
[34:47] It could be both ways because they're
[34:48] also marketing, you're also choosing.
[34:51] If that's your idea.
[34:54] But what is spirituality?
[34:59] Can you see me right now?
[35:03] If you close your eyes,
[35:07] can you see me?
[35:09] No.
[35:11] So right now that you're able to see me,
[35:14] is it you who is looking at me?
[35:17] Or is it your eyes which are seeing me?
[35:21] Are you seeing me or your eyes are
[35:23] seeing me?
[35:25] Hm?
[35:27] You are seeing. Through the window of
[35:29] your eyes, you're looking.
[35:31] So somewhere,
[35:33] though the experience is not very
[35:35] distinctly there, somewhere there is a
[35:38] little experience that you seem to be
[35:41] little more than the body, whatever you
[35:44] are.
[35:45] Don't don't start off your jargon, oh
[35:47] yes, I am soul, atma, this, that. Leave
[35:50] the nonsense.
[35:51] You is good enough.
[35:53] Those words are too corrupted. They've
[35:55] been used and reused in a million
[35:57] different ways.
[35:59] No need to take up any traditional
[36:01] words.
[36:03] What you consider as myself seem to be
[36:05] little more than the body. It may not be
[36:08] distinctly clear,
[36:10] but there is some little bit of
[36:13] idea about it, some experience about it.
[36:15] Because when you open your eyes, you
[36:17] see. If you close your eyes, you don't
[36:19] see, but you're still there.
[36:21] You're still very much there with eyes
[36:23] closed.
[36:25] This is the whole idea of closing eyes.
[36:29] If you close your eyes,
[36:33] now you don't see the outside because
[36:35] visual participation in the world is the
[36:37] biggest of the five senses.
[36:40] If you don't visually participate in the
[36:42] world,
[36:43] suddenly you find within the body you're
[36:45] very much there. Something different
[36:48] than the body. You are there.
[36:50] The whole idea of eyes closed processes
[36:53] is just this.
[36:55] Why the moment people enter spiritual
[36:58] process they're closing their eyes is so
[37:01] that they become more and more aware
[37:04] of a dimension beyond the physical.
[37:07] So what you consider as myself right now
[37:11] seems to be little more than the
[37:12] physical, isn't it?
[37:14] Yes? Does it seem to be so?
[37:17] If we Now that we know you're somewhere
[37:19] inside the body, if we dissect you
[37:24] If you dissect your body, we won't find
[37:26] you.
[37:29] But you're very much there.
[37:30] Do you have any doubt about your
[37:31] existence?
[37:33] Do you have any doubt about your
[37:35] existence?
[37:36] Are you in such a state where you say,
[37:39] "I'm thinking so I exist"?
[37:42] You're not in such a state of confusion.
[37:45] You know you exist.
[37:46] But you are not able to figure out the
[37:48] nature of your existence.
[37:52] That's a problem.
[37:54] But you are not in such a state of
[37:56] confusion that you're doubting your
[37:58] existence. You know you do exist, but
[38:02] you do not understand and perceive the
[38:04] nature of your existence.
[38:07] Now, as we went through this earlier
[38:11] from your childhood
[38:13] this body which was so much it becomes
[38:16] it has become this much.
[38:19] Which you accumulated from outside
[38:22] through
[38:23] the process of ingestion and digestion,
[38:26] you slowly accumulated this body.
[38:30] So if you can accumulate this, there is
[38:32] a dimension beyond the physical which
[38:34] you consider as myself right now.
[38:37] So this dimension is non-physical.
[38:41] That which is non-physical is what we
[38:43] refer to as spiritual.
[38:47] So you're essentially a spiritual being
[38:50] dabbling with materialism.
[38:55] Dealing with the material world, but
[38:57] you're essentially a spiritual being.
[38:59] Right now, in your mind, in your logical
[39:02] understanding, you think I am a material
[39:05] being right now for these 3 days
[39:08] dabbling with spirituality.
[39:10] 3 evenings, I'm sorry.
[39:12] >> [snorts]
[39:14] >> No. You are a spiritual being
[39:17] >> [clears throat]
[39:17] >> just dealing with the material.
[39:21] So, you neither have to choose
[39:24] spirituality
[39:27] nor do you have to be called.
[39:31] Anyway, you're spiritual.
[39:33] Unrealized.
[39:37] The more ignorant you become of this
[39:39] possibility,
[39:41] the stronger it will become
[39:43] for you to expand in some way.
[39:47] This longing
[39:49] to include and expand. Expansion is also
[39:51] inclusion.
[39:54] See, right now,
[39:56] you're alone,
[39:57] but
[39:59] you become very despondent.
[40:02] I want to get married. I want to get
[40:04] married. I want to get married.
[40:06] All the married people are telling you,
[40:07] "Please don't. Please don't. Please
[40:09] don't."
[40:11] But against the whole world's
[40:12] experience, you'll say, "I want to get
[40:14] married." Why? You want to at least
[40:16] include one person as a part of your
[40:18] life. At least one person.
[40:21] Yes, that's the attempt, isn't it?
[40:23] And that longing is so strong.
[40:26] That need is so strong and compulsory
[40:29] that you want to have at least one
[40:31] person
[40:32] as a part of you.
[40:35] The whole world is there,
[40:37] but you want to include at least one
[40:39] person as a part of yourself.
[40:43] Now, the moment you get married, then
[40:45] you'll say, "I want to have children."
[40:48] Now, you want to have at least another
[40:51] two, three, or
[40:53] No, the dozens are gone now.
[40:55] At least one or two
[40:56] extra as a part of yourself.
[40:59] Now, you want to build a home.
[41:01] You want to have at least a little piece
[41:03] of this earth as a part of yourself.
[41:07] If all this is working well,
[41:09] you would like to become
[41:13] a multi-million magnet because you want
[41:15] to include large chunks of this planet
[41:18] as a part of yourself.
[41:20] If that works well, then you would
[41:21] naturally think, "I think I should
[41:23] become the king of this land."
[41:26] Because you want the whole You want to
[41:27] include everything as a part of
[41:29] yourself. So, there is something within
[41:31] you which is constantly working. It
[41:32] doesn't matter what you're doing.
[41:34] When it finds just simple physical
[41:38] expression,
[41:40] this longing to include something as a
[41:42] part of yourself, when it finds simple
[41:44] physical expression,
[41:46] this is called sex.
[41:48] What you're doing is
[41:50] desperately trying to become a part of
[41:52] somebody.
[41:53] However hard you work, it doesn't work.
[41:57] It seems to be like that for a moment,
[42:00] then it's over.
[42:03] If it finds an emotional expression,
[42:06] then we call this a love affair.
[42:09] What is a love affair is you're
[42:11] desperately trying to include another
[42:13] human being as a part of yourself.
[42:17] Some moments you really feel both of you
[42:19] have become one,
[42:20] but the next moment disagreements come
[42:22] and you fall apart.
[42:24] You're not able to maintain that.
[42:28] If it finds a mental expression,
[42:30] generally in the society, it gets
[42:32] labeled as greed
[42:35] or ambition.
[42:36] But all you're trying to do is include
[42:39] large parts of the world as a part of
[42:41] yourself.
[42:44] If it finds a conscious expression,
[42:48] then we call this yoga.
[42:51] Whether you are sexuality,
[42:54] money and property, love affair,
[42:57] or spirituality, you are all in the same
[42:59] direction,
[43:01] but you are not using an appropriate
[43:04] vehicle.
[43:05] You will only go on trying endlessly and
[43:07] it'll never happen.
[43:09] Nothing wrong with it. It is just that
[43:12] it is not good enough. That's all.
[43:14] >> [snorts]
[43:17] >> All these things are just a longing to
[43:20] include something as a part of yourself,
[43:22] to make at least one piece of the world
[43:25] part of yourself. You can't take this
[43:27] world in pieces and make it a part of
[43:29] yourself. It doesn't work like that.
[43:31] Either
[43:32] you take it all or you don't.
[43:36] You just struggle otherwise.
[43:38] So, spirituality is not calling you.
[43:43] Nor are you choosing to be spiritual.
[43:46] Unfortunately, you are spiritual.
[43:49] You cannot help it.
[43:53] Once it happened,
[43:56] a Jewish lawyer
[43:58] went to his rabbi and lamented,
[44:02] "I brought up my son in a proper
[44:04] religious way.
[44:06] When he was just 10 years of age, I
[44:09] spent a million dollars to conduct his
[44:11] bar mitzvah.
[44:13] We initiated him into the religion.
[44:15] I did everything right,
[44:18] but
[44:19] to my dismay, he has become a
[44:21] Christian."
[44:26] The rabbi shook his head and said,
[44:29] "What can I tell you?
[44:32] I brought up my son also in a proper
[44:35] Jewish way, but he has also become a
[44:37] Christian.
[44:40] So, I did not know what to do and I
[44:42] turned to God."
[44:46] And the lawyer asked, "What did God
[44:47] say?"
[44:50] The rabbi said,
[44:51] "God said,
[44:53] 'It's funny that you come to me.
[44:56] My son also.
[44:59] >> [laughter]
[45:07] >> So, it's not calling you. It's already
[45:10] there.
[45:13] You are spiritual, unfortunately.
[45:15] If you recognize it and consciously
[45:17] nurture it,
[45:19] it will find a conscious expression
[45:21] without any violence, without any
[45:22] struggle.
[45:24] If you allow it to find an unconscious
[45:25] expression, it will struggle. That's
[45:28] all.
[45:29] >> [clears throat and cough]
[45:29] [snorts]
[45:30] >> But, you cannot stop this longing
[45:33] to become all-inclusive. You cannot stop
[45:35] it.
[45:36] Doesn't matter how many defeatist
[45:38] philosophies you believe in. It's okay.
[45:40] I have everything I want. I don't need
[45:42] anything more. I don't need to do
[45:44] anything more. You keep saying this.
[45:45] Tomorrow morning, if you get an
[45:46] opportunity, you do something.
[45:49] Isn't it so?
[45:52] So, you cannot stop that.
[45:55] Anyway, you're spiritual.
[45:57] It is sensible to be consciously
[45:59] spiritual rather than being
[46:01] unconsciously spiritual.