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Five Levels of Manifestation: Why Level Four Feels Like Magic

Gregg Braden
Gregg Braden
Nov 2, 2026
10 Min. Lesezeit

Von Gregg Braden Official

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"Bend. Bend. Bend it." That is the instruction that closes a 28-minute studio conversation in which aura reader Pam Oslie moves from the colors that surround the human body to a model of manifestation she calls five levels, and from there to parallel realities she says she has entered on purpose. The video, a Gregg Braden throwback originally recorded for Gaia's Inspirations with host Lisa Garr, is less a how-to than a worldview: consciousness is bigger than the brain, belief gathers its own evidence, and the most ordinary desires arrive fastest when you stop gripping them. What follows walks through those ideas in order, explains what Oslie actually claims, and marks the places where a careful reader should slow down.

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What does an aura reader actually see?

Oslie says she sees energy fields as bands of light, a glow "kind of like light off of a light bulb," in her words, with distinct colors layered in them. She is specific about which bands matter. "The two colors closest to your body reveal your life purpose," she told Lisa Garr early in the conversation (2:37). In her reading, those inner bands also carry personality, relationship patterns, money, and potential health issues. Some people show only one color in that zone; some show two.

She describes two ways of perceiving it. Sometimes she sees with her physical eyes, and otherwise she tunes in through what she calls an inner sense or intuition. That, she says, is how she works on television, on the radio, and by phone: a caller gives her a name and she reads the person remotely. She counts 14 aura colors in total. Her insistence on a single underlying principle is what links the colors to the rest of the talk. Our consciousness, she argues, is capable of far more than the brain alone, and reading auras is one exercise of that wider capacity. "We all have the ability," she says in effect. "I've practiced it. I've exercised it."

Lisa Garr's reading of her own chart produced the pair Oslie uses to explain temperament: yellow and violet. Yellows, Oslie says, are creative, playful "big kids at heart" who want to do everything and need physical outlets. Violets are the visionaries, the people who come from the third eye and feel a mission to shift what is happening on the planet. The pairing can produce friction. Yellows want things to be "fun and easy," while violets feel the weight of a big assignment, and Garr admitted on air that she recognized herself in the description of a violet who cannot stop working. Oslie offered a few famous examples, saying Oprah, Bono and George Clooney share the same aura colors as violets. Those are her readings, not something the conversation tests.

What are the five levels of manifestation?

The core of the video is a ladder. Its first rung, according to the video's own summary, is the familiar one: hard work. You want something, you push for it, and the effort is real. Oslie describes that first rung as the place where everything seems physical and separate, which is why it feels so demanding. Levels two and three are where, in her telling, the ladder grows "easier and more fun," and where the shift in feeling begins to show up. The passages surfaced from the conversation spend most of their time on the two ends of the ladder, so the fullest picture comes from the top rungs.

Level four is the one the video's title and promotion lean on. Oslie puts it in a sentence that is almost childlike in its simplicity: "Level four is you have the desire for ice cream and you open your hand and it's there" (11:06). The ice cream is a deliberately small example. The point is not that you can summon dessert from the air, but that the gap between wanting and having closes without strain. The grip is gone. You are not reaching for the thing; you are simply receiving it.

Level five goes one step further and dissolves even the sense of a separate wanter. "Level five... you realize that you and the ice cream are one" (11:47), she says. It is the most abstract rung, and she frames it as a realization rather than a technique. The video's chapter list gives the talk a clear arc: aura colors first, then the five levels, then the reasons the ladder works. That arc matters because the rest of the conversation turns on the mechanics of belief and attention, which is where Oslie's argument is most useful to a skeptical reader.

Why does level four feel like opening a hand?

Consider what the image asks of you. Level one assumes the thing is elsewhere and must be fought for. Level four assumes the thing is already present in the field and needs only to be noticed. Oslie's chapter title for this stretch, "Open Your Hand," captures the physical gesture: a closed fist holds on, and an open palm receives. Her argument is that much of what we call effort is actually resistance, the mind insisting that the desire will not be met unless we strain for it.

That reading echoes a theme that runs through the whole video. Oslie says she was once plagued by a sense that she could not stop seeing into "what the future needs to be," and Garr, reacting, noted how violets often judge themselves for working so hard. Level four offers a way out of that self-judgment. The work does not disappear, but it changes character, from pushing to allowing. The video does not offer a timeline for this change, and it does not say how long it takes to move from level one to level four. That silence is worth noting: the framework describes a direction, not a schedule.

What does detaching from the story have to do with it?

The chapter that introduces the field is titled "Detach From The Story, Enter The Field," and it marks the point where the talk shifts from aura colors into physics-adjacent claims. Oslie's instruction, in the passage that surfaces most clearly, is that the story you tell about your life is the thing to put down. The desire can stay, but the narrative of how it must come about, or why it has not come yet, becomes a kind of barrier.

Detachment is not indifference, as Oslie frames it. It is a refusal to let the story define the outcome. A person who narrates a relationship as broken, a body as failing, or money as scarce is, in her model, rehearsing those conclusions until they become the conditions of life. Detaching from that narrative, she suggests, lets you step toward a different version of the same desire.

Why does every belief gather its own evidence?

This is the claim that does the most work in the video. "When you have a belief, you will gather evidence to support that belief" (16:48), Oslie says. Once a belief is in place, the mind goes looking for proof, and it finds proof, because proof is available in almost any situation to someone who is looking for it. The belief then appears to be confirmed, and the cycle tightens. A person who believes the world is unkind collects instances of unkindness; a person who believes in abundance collects instances of plenty.

Read in this light, the five levels are less mystical than they first appear. Level four is a state where the belief is no longer a hope to be defended but a fact to be lived from, and the evidence follows. Oslie also uses a figure, 99.9, to make a related point: "99.9 is still all around you, but you're not tuned into it" (20:06). The excerpt does not explain what the number measures, so readers should treat it as her image rather than a quantified finding. The emphasis is on attention. The possibilities are present; the question is what your attention is tuned to.

Can you really shift into a parallel reality?

This is where the video's claims are most striking and most in need of care. Oslie opens the conversation with a personal account. She says she once existed in a reality where a person she loved told her no, that he was not interested. "I used my imagination to go into a different frequency where we were together," she says. "We have been together now for 35 years." She adds that a version of that other man still exists on the East Coast, living a separate life. In her account, the moment of choice divides reality. "Every time you make a choice, another you splits off" (21:07), she says, and the version of her that she describes living in the present is the one who "chose to align with the one that loved me" (22:13).

Oslie says she has done this with other situations as well, naming life and death, the weather and her home. Her method is not a formula so much as a demand: "The key is you have to so believe that this reality is real and completely drop this one." She compares parallel realities to radio stations, and she refers to what she describes as scientific evidence for the idea, though the excerpt does not name specific studies. She also cites films such as Back to the Future and the "sliding doors" idea as cultural touchstones.

How should a reader weigh this? The honest answer is that these are the claims of one practitioner, offered in a friendly studio conversation, and the video does not submit them to independent testing. Oslie herself frames the purpose in modest terms: "The reason I do it is to show people that, first of all, it's just energy" (26:19). That is a claim about the nature of experience, not a proof, and it can be explored on its own terms without accepting every detail of the parallel-reality story.

What is the practical takeaway for everyday life?

Oslie's most concrete advice concerns staying balanced in your own color. Yellows, she says, need to exercise, since they grow depressed without it; they should connect with nature and keep a sense of humor, which she says can carry them through almost anything. Violets need some form of meditation and quiet time, a space to connect their vision with their heart and with something higher. Blues, she says, value relationship above all, and marriage is their number one. These are simple, transferable habits, and they are the part of the talk most easily tested by ordinary readers.

Garr framed the stakes at the start of the conversation. "We're living in such a different time now," she said. "It's intense. It's quick. It's changing very fast and it's extreme." Oslie's response is that tools for staying steady matter more when the world is loud. Whatever a reader makes of the parallel-reality claims, the daily practices she describes are small and specific: notice what you are gripping, tell yourself a different story, and rest in the place where your attention can settle.

Where to go from here

  • Watch the full conversation with Lisa Garr on the Gregg Braden channel, paying attention to the passages on levels two and three that are not covered in detail here.
  • Read Oslie's own books and visit auracolors.com, where she says she sets out the characteristics of each color and how to stay in power.
  • Test the level-four idea with something small, like the ice cream she uses as an example, and notice when you are reaching versus receiving.
  • Keep a short journal of beliefs you hold about money, relationships and health, then look for the evidence you have been collecting for each one.
  • Hold the parallel-reality claims with curiosity and skepticism at once. Oslie's account of a relationship that began in another frequency is hers to tell; decide for yourself what it means.

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[0:00] I've shifted from one reality where I

[0:02] wasn't with somebody and they said no

[0:04] way, I don't want to be with you. I'm

[0:06] not in love with you. I'm not

[0:07] interested. I used my imagination

[0:10] >> [music]

[0:10] >> to go into a different frequency where

[0:13] we were together.

[0:14] >> Okay.

[0:15] >> We have been together now for 35 [music]

[0:17] years.

[0:18] There's two him. There's still one that

[0:21] exists [music] on the East Coast having

[0:22] a whole life off on his own. Do you

[0:24] understand this sliding doors frequency?

[0:26] [music] There's a lot of movies about

[0:27] this. Back to the future. I've done it

[0:29] with life and death.

[0:30] >> [music]

[0:30] >> I've done it with the weather. I've done

[0:32] it with home. I've proven this parallel

[0:34] universe stuff all the time, but the key

[0:36] is you have to so believe that this

[0:39] reality is real [music]

[0:41] and completely drop this one. Now, bend.

[0:45] Bend. Bend. [music] Bend it. Bend it.

[0:46] Bend it. Bend it. Bend. Go. Bend. Bend

[0:49] your fork. Bend your spoon. Bend [music]

[0:51] it.

[0:53] Make sure you're hold Okay. Did some of

[0:55] you guys bend it?

[1:01] >> Hi, I'm Lisa Garr and joining me is the

[1:03] founder of auracolors.com,

[1:05] Pam Owsley, who is here to talk with us

[1:08] about the five stages of manifestation

[1:10] and how we can bring the things we

[1:13] desire in life closer to us through a

[1:16] daily practice. Welcome. Thank you for

[1:18] joining me.

[1:18] >> Hi, Lisa. It's great to be here.

[1:20] >> So, aura colors and manifestation, those

[1:25] two are I can't see the link between the

[1:28] two.

[1:28] >> [laughter]

[1:29] >> Can you tell me?

[1:30] >> Oh, yeah. Well, the fact that I can see

[1:31] energy fields or auras showed me it from

[1:34] the get-go that our consciousness is

[1:36] we're we're capable of doing more than

[1:38] we thought we were, right? That our our

[1:40] brain, our consciousness, whatever you

[1:43] want is more than our brain. But, the

[1:44] fact that I can see energy fields and

[1:46] colors and psychically know what those

[1:48] colors mean, I explored even more to go

[1:51] beyond that parallel universes and and

[1:54] talking to people on the other side and

[1:56] remote viewing. It's just it's all

[1:58] connected with expanded consciousness.

[2:01] >> So, you see things in a different way.

[2:03] >> Yes. I I see things in a an expanded

[2:06] version. Um and we all have the ability.

[2:09] It's just I've I've I've practiced it.

[2:11] I've exercised it. Mhm.

[2:13] >> So, if you are looking at me, for

[2:16] example, right now, do you see colors

[2:17] radiating

[2:18] >> Yes. Yes. It's kind of like light off of

[2:21] a light bulb. It's a glow. And what I

[2:23] see are different bands of color. But

[2:26] when I talk to people, the most

[2:27] significant bands are the two colors

[2:29] closest to your body. Some people just

[2:30] have one, some have two. The outer bands

[2:33] in the aura, in my experience, other

[2:35] people see it differently.

[2:37] In my experience, the two colors closest

[2:39] to your body reveal your life purpose,

[2:41] your personality, how you are in

[2:43] relationship, money, potential health

[2:45] issues. They all show up in what I call

[2:48] your life colors.

[2:49] >> And when you see this, you don't see it

[2:51] with your eyes, your physical eyes. You

[2:52] see it with kind of your

[2:53] >> Sometimes I I see it with my physical

[2:55] eyes, and otherwise, I can tune into it.

[2:57] I can see it with an inner sense, with

[2:59] my intuition, which is why I can do it

[3:01] on television, I can do it on the radio,

[3:03] I can do it on the telephone. You can

[3:05] tell me the name of somebody, give me

[3:07] their name, and I'll go tune into them

[3:09] and tell you all about them, because I

[3:11] can see it remotely, too.

[3:12] >> So, what colors am I

[3:13] >> You're yellow and violet.

[3:15] >> Yellow and violet. What does that mean?

[3:16] >> Yeah. Yellow and violet. So, and I see

[3:18] 14 different aura colors. But yellows

[3:20] are they're creative, they're big kids

[3:23] at heart, to tell you the truth. They

[3:24] they they want to do some of this, and

[3:26] some of this, and some of this, and some

[3:27] of this. They've got a lot of energy.

[3:29] They either do creative work, or healing

[3:31] work, or physical work, like they're

[3:32] yoga instructors.

[3:34] Violets, this year you're doing so much

[3:36] violet in this lifetime. Violets are the

[3:38] spiritual leaders and teachers and

[3:40] visionaries. Not always spiritual, but

[3:42] they're visionaries. Violets come from

[3:44] the third eye. You see how fast I'm

[3:45] talking with you? That's because you're

[3:47] a violet.

[3:48] >> get it. And I am plagued by it,

[3:50] actually, to to honest with you, because

[3:51] I can't not see into what the future

[3:54] needs to be.

[3:55] >> Yes, that's a violet. You have the same

[3:57] aura colors as Oprah and Bono and George

[3:59] Clooney and people that are violets came

[4:02] here to help shift the consciousness of

[4:04] the planet.

[4:05] >> ridiculous.

[4:05] >> Yeah, yeah, it's a big mission and

[4:08] yellows don't want to work that hard,

[4:09] you know, they're like, "Wait, wait, I

[4:11] wanted it to be fun and easy." And

[4:12] violets go, "No, I have a big mission."

[4:14] So, it can create conflict.

[4:16] >> you just nailed me. Absolutely. I do.

[4:20] I'm constantly judging myself, working

[4:22] so hard.

[4:23] >> [gasps]

[4:24] >> Yeah, well, yellows have a sense of

[4:25] humor and violets get very serious and

[4:27] intense. So, but if you put them

[4:28] together

[4:29] >> You get multiple personalities, like

[4:31] >> [laughter]

[4:32] >> Well, they're creative visionaries. They

[4:33] come up with creative ways of of

[4:35] reaching the masses or, you know,

[4:37] different things. Violets get involved

[4:39] in either the media or the arts or their

[4:41] teachers or therapists or they get

[4:43] involved in causes.

[4:44] >> Yeah.

[4:45] >> Okay. Violets, some violets get involved

[4:47] in politics and law, but usually yellows

[4:48] don't like politics and law.

[4:49] >> Yeah.

[4:50] >> To chill.

[4:53] >> So, how do we stay in our power color,

[4:55] essentially?

[4:55] >> Well, there's lots of um in my books,

[4:57] too, I wrote and on my website, I show

[5:00] each one of the colors has a different

[5:01] way of staying in power. Like, for

[5:03] example, yellows number one, they have

[5:05] to exercise.

[5:06] >> Yes.

[5:06] >> If yellows don't exercise, they get

[5:07] depressed and you don't tell a blue to

[5:09] do that cuz blues don't like to

[5:10] exercise.

[5:11] >> Right, right, yes.

[5:12] >> yellows need to connect with nature.

[5:15] That's healthy for them and then yellows

[5:16] need to keep a sense of humor.

[5:18] >> Mhm.

[5:18] >> So, if yellows can keep a sense of

[5:19] humor, they can get through anything.

[5:21] Violets, number one for violets to stay

[5:24] in power, hands down, is some form of

[5:26] meditation. Violets have to have quiet

[5:29] time. They have to have alone time where

[5:31] they can connect their vision with their

[5:32] heart and soul and something higher than

[5:34] them.

[5:35] >> And reground, yes.

[5:37] >> Where yellows sometimes can't sit still

[5:38] long enough to meditate. They need

[5:40] movement.

[5:41] >> Well, okay, so then you take somebody

[5:43] like um Oprah

[5:45] >> Uh-huh.

[5:45] >> and she she said, "So, I'm picking lots

[5:47] of yellow violets."

[5:48] >> Yes you are. Yes you are. She's also

[5:50] really violet with yellow.

[5:51] >> Okay, give me another example of other

[5:53] colors.

[5:53] >> Um okay, so a blue yellow. A blue yellow

[5:56] um Ellen DeGeneres is a blue yellow.

[5:59] Kate Hudson,

[6:00] um

[6:01] Meg Ryan, um Goldie Hawn. They're kind

[6:04] of the girl next door. Blues, it's all

[6:06] about love and helping. And blues get

[6:08] very emotional. Blues value relationship

[6:11] more than anything.

[6:12] >> You're a blue.

[6:12] >> I'm a blue yellow. Yes, I am.

[6:14] Um but blues, it's home and love and

[6:17] helping people. They're typically

[6:18] teachers, counselors, and nurses. But

[6:21] they can also be doormats. But they're

[6:23] some of the most emotional. Violets are

[6:25] emotional, but they run really deep.

[6:26] They've got a passion to them. So, they

[6:29] don't like injustice or global

[6:30] suffering. Where blues, it's like, you

[6:32] know, they're home. They're

[6:34] Number one for a blue is marriage,

[6:36] relationship.

[6:37] >> Yes.

[6:40] One of the the reasons why I love doing

[6:42] this show is because we're living in

[6:43] such a different time now. It even more

[6:48] different than it was 10 years ago. It's

[6:51] intense. It's quick. It's changing very

[6:55] fast and it's extreme.

[6:57] >> Right.

[6:58] >> So, we need these tools and techniques

[7:00] to be able to carry us through these

[7:01] times so that we can be the help to

[7:05] others that we want to be

[7:07] and to ourselves as well so we're not

[7:10] falling prey to so many different um

[7:12] agendas.

[7:13] So, how would you take what you do with

[7:16] aura colors and apply it to um

[7:19] suffering, to pain, to extreme change?

[7:22] >> Well, if I'm just going to focus on the

[7:24] aura colors, I help each individual with

[7:26] their colors know how to stay in balance

[7:29] cuz each one of them has a different

[7:31] way. Like greens have a different way.

[7:32] Blues have a different way of staying

[7:34] balanced and in power. But if we're

[7:36] going to go to the big level because

[7:38] what I believe is why why things are are

[7:40] today, um

[7:42] we're trying to wake up. We're trying to

[7:44] shift our consciousness to a higher

[7:46] level of being because Lisa, the old way

[7:48] is not working anymore.

[7:49] >> That's clear.

[7:50] >> The old paradigm is falling apart.

[7:52] >> Yes.

[7:52] >> We're creating our experiences. We're

[7:54] creating our our reality. And it's

[7:57] quantum physics. It's not just woo-woo,

[8:00] you know, some sort of spiritual

[8:01] ungrounded. It's actually quantum

[8:03] physics.

[8:04] >> But it's also like we're trying to build

[8:06] the Coliseum with chopsticks. I mean,

[8:08] we're creating, but we don't have the

[8:10] tools quite yet to create at the level

[8:12] that we need to create at.

[8:14] >> The tools are available.

[8:15] >> Yeah.

[8:15] >> We have the tools. I've I've discovered

[8:18] I've learned a lot of the tools.

[8:19] >> Okay.

[8:20] >> So, my whole thing, even though I'm a

[8:21] blue yellow, I've added violet. Um, my

[8:24] whole thing is

[8:25] I go inside first to see how I can

[8:29] evolve.

[8:30] >> Mhm.

[8:30] >> What I know.

[8:31] A higher truth, a more loving, more

[8:34] advanced consciousness.

[8:36] And then I teach that.

[8:40] >> So, this is around the five levels of

[8:42] manifestation that you teach now. Your

[8:44] work has evolved in from the aura colors

[8:47] and still the aura colors, but into what

[8:49] This is the secret sauce here, right?

[8:51] >> Yeah, it's really about consciousness.

[8:54] Lisa, I get so excited to see who we

[8:56] really are. My focus is on shifting the

[9:00] consciousness. So, when you talk about

[9:01] the five levels, do you want to get into

[9:03] that five levels of manifestation? Okay.

[9:05] >> yes.

[9:05] >> Now, I'm borrowing this from Deepak

[9:06] Chopra,

[9:07] >> Mhm.

[9:08] >> but it still fits with a lot of stuff

[9:09] I've been doing.

[9:10] >> Okay.

[9:11] >> So, he uses the example, let's say you

[9:13] have the desire um for ice cream. Well,

[9:16] level one consciousness, the way we

[9:19] think and the way we believe at level

[9:21] one, we have to go out, um interview for

[9:24] a job, get a job, work hard, make the

[9:26] money, get the paycheck, get in the car,

[9:28] drive to the ice cream store, and then

[9:30] you finally get to get your ice cream,

[9:31] and then you get to eat it. Mostly,

[9:34] we're living at level one state of

[9:36] consciousness, which is hard work. It's

[9:38] struggle that's a lot of activity, a lot

[9:40] of action.

[9:41] >> Yeah.

[9:41] >> Yes. And And so level two, and I do this

[9:46] one a lot. It's so much fun, Lisa. Level

[9:48] two is you have the desire for ice

[9:50] cream, and a friend stops by on that day

[9:52] and goes, "I was just in the

[9:53] neighborhood and I just went to the

[9:54] store and I bought some ice cream. Do

[9:55] you want to have it with me?" There was

[9:57] no effort. There was the desire to have

[9:59] ice cream, and it showed up.

[10:01] >> Mhm.

[10:02] >> Somebody else cooperated. There was a a

[10:04] synchronicity

[10:05] >> Yes.

[10:05] >> that showed up. And a lot of us have had

[10:07] those experiences many ways.

[10:09] >> call them weird.

[10:10] >> They're actually intentional,

[10:10] [clears throat] huh?

[10:11] >> Yes. They're They're how we manifest at

[10:14] a level when we stop believing that

[10:16] level one is the only way that reality

[10:19] works, but that there's another level of

[10:22] how we create, then level two becomes

[10:25] easier and more fun. Now, level three

[10:28] consciousness is you have the desire for

[10:30] ice cream, you go to the freezer, you

[10:32] open it up, and there's ice cream in

[10:33] there, and you go, "I don't remember

[10:35] buying ice cream, but there it is,

[10:36] right?"

[10:37] >> It manifested.

[10:38] >> Yeah. Now, I've had experiences in level

[10:40] two and three a lot, and they're

[10:42] becoming more and more ingrained in my

[10:44] lifestyle, and I got to tell you, Lisa,

[10:46] it's so much more fun.

[10:47] It's easier. There's less drama. It's

[10:51] When it shows up, it's like, "Oh my

[10:52] gosh, that really happened." And so I

[10:54] play with it a lot. Level four

[10:57] consciousness, and there's different

[10:59] things you have to shift your beliefs of

[11:01] reality to be able to operate at these

[11:04] different levels. Level four is you have

[11:06] the desire for ice cream, and you open

[11:08] your hand, and it's there. Now, some of

[11:09] the great master teachers on the planet,

[11:11] Christ, for example, I understand Sai

[11:14] Baba knew how to do that. Um Manifesting

[11:17] that way Yes, water into wine, walking

[11:19] on water, fishes and loaves, that's

[11:22] level four.

[11:26] I haven't I haven't gotten there yet.

[11:28] >> Yeah.

[11:29] >> point we'll work on

[11:30] that.

[11:30] >> into wine.

[11:30] >> fun. That would be fun.

[11:32] >> Okay.

[11:32] >> [laughter]

[11:32] >> Level Well, we've changed the weather.

[11:34] We've done things with the weather by by

[11:36] knowing these different principles of

[11:39] consciousness and quantum physics.

[11:41] >> And then level five we've come from. So,

[11:44] level five's not that exciting to us.

[11:46] Level five is you have the desire for

[11:48] ice cream and you realize that you and

[11:49] the ice cream are one.

[11:51] It's all just thought. It's energy. It's

[11:53] consciousness. And so, it's like, "Uh,

[11:56] I want to taste ice cream. I don't want

[11:57] to know I'm one with the ice cream. I

[11:59] want to I want to taste it." So, we I

[12:02] want to be able to have the ability to

[12:04] know how to go from one to three or four

[12:07] at with conscious choice.

[12:09] >> Yes.

[12:10] There's so many questions I have for you

[12:12] because so the level one is the more

[12:14] linear.

[12:15] And the level two we've kind of evolved

[12:17] every now and then into because we call

[12:19] them synchronicities or coincidence and

[12:22] so forth. But we on this show really act

[12:26] as if it's possible to begin to manifest

[12:29] that. How do you get from one to two?

[12:32] >> Well, the first thing you got to know is

[12:34] you got to believe it's possible.

[12:35] >> Okay.

[12:36] >> And second of all, learning that we've

[12:39] been taught that this is physical.

[12:40] >> Mhm.

[12:41] >> You know, there everything's physical

[12:42] and separate from us. That's very

[12:44] Newtonian physics. Now, that sounds like

[12:46] a big word, but it just means Newton.

[12:48] >> Mhm.

[12:48] >> That that the universe is mechanistic

[12:50] and it deteriorates and it dies and all

[12:52] that bit. We've been taught that and

[12:54] we've bought into it. We believe that.

[12:56] Quantum physics is saying something

[12:57] entirely different that it's energy and

[13:01] consciousness. And if you So, most

[13:04] people are not going to read quantum

[13:05] physics. They go

[13:06] can't even like grasp it.

[13:08] >> It's hard, but yeah.

[13:09] >> When you understand that there's atoms

[13:11] and space and then in the atoms it's

[13:13] subatomic particles. There's no There's

[13:16] really nothing solid. When you start

[13:18] getting that it's

[13:20] all energy

[13:21] and that our thoughts, our beliefs which

[13:25] give rise to our emotions, which is

[13:27] energy in motion,

[13:29] that's

[13:30] >> what creates things.

[13:32] Once you really get that that's a truth,

[13:34] not a woo-woo, that's an actual fact,

[13:37] it's a truth, and you start

[13:39] experimenting with it, and you allow for

[13:41] that possibility to happen, and then

[13:43] when you that's why the the law of

[13:45] attraction operates out of that.

[13:48] >> It's a good idea. It's a great concept.

[13:50] Yes.

[13:50] >> works. And so, I I don't just tell other

[13:52] people, "Oh, you got to believe this." I

[13:54] actually go out and experiment with it

[13:55] to see if it's real. And it is. And so,

[13:57] the more evidence I get the more I see

[14:00] it's real. It's so

[14:02] And one of the ways to really shift into

[14:04] that, too, I've noticed, is quiet

[14:07] detaching.

[14:08] Um it's called kind of going into the

[14:10] field because

[14:12] >> Yes.

[14:12] >> the other thing that quantum physics

[14:14] says is there's no empty space. It's all

[14:16] energy. This looks empty, but it's not.

[14:18] It's energy. So, if you get quiet and

[14:21] you detach from the drama, from the

[14:24] story

[14:25] >> Mhm.

[14:25] >> because, Lisa, we get so wound up in our

[14:27] stories.

[14:30] >> I want the listeners to know that as

[14:32] you're going through this this

[14:33] experience with Pam,

[14:35] treat this as a master class today.

[14:37] Treat this as a way where you can really

[14:39] learn to go from level one to level two.

[14:42] And we're going to go through this. I

[14:43] want you to apply yourself as you're

[14:45] listening to this. So, we go from level

[14:47] one, which is linear. We go to level

[14:48] two, which is in the quantum. And all of

[14:51] a sudden, someone shows up. And then the

[14:52] ice cream they say, "Oh, we've And it's

[14:54] a coincidence, right?"

[14:56] Now, when you go to level three and you

[14:59] open your eyes and the ice cream is

[15:01] there,

[15:02] how do you get by all of the

[15:05] interferences

[15:06] in the way between the field?

[15:09] >> How do you do that?

[15:10] >> Well, and that's what it is. You know,

[15:11] all the master teachers have all said,

[15:13] "Be still. Be still and know." Like, "Be

[15:15] still and know I am God. Be still and

[15:17] know thyself." Um

[15:19] so, a key is what I just said is

[15:22] detaching from the story, from the

[15:24] drama, We which is

[15:26] is challenging to do because some of

[15:28] those stories we we they scare us.

[15:30] They're very convincing. We are really

[15:32] good storytellers. We you said we're

[15:34] creating them.

[15:35] >> We are.

[15:36] >> How? How are we creating devastation?

[15:38] >> Um

[15:39] >> Sometimes we create it for the emotion,

[15:41] for the experience of it. Sometimes we

[15:44] create drama to see who we are, to see

[15:46] if we can overcome it, um for the same

[15:48] reason we go to movies. I mean, there

[15:50] are people that actually like going to

[15:52] horror movies or war movies or or slash

[15:54] and burn things or you know, chase and

[15:57] gunfire and whatever and I go, "Ah!" But

[15:58] people like the adrenaline rush of that.

[16:01] So, to say, "Why would we create drama?"

[16:04] We want to know what it feels like. We

[16:05] want the story. If everything was

[16:06] la-la-la la-la all the time, we might be

[16:09] afraid we're going to get bored.

[16:11] >> But you're saying I have to have more

[16:12] than the desire.

[16:13] >> You don't have to, you get to. So, what

[16:15] I'm going to say is you have a belief

[16:18] that people around you are aging

[16:20] unhealthily. I have the opposite belief

[16:22] and I see people around me going, "Wow,

[16:25] they look way younger than my

[16:26] grandparents did at their age. They look

[16:28] way younger and they're healthier and

[16:29] they're more aware of their health than

[16:31] my parents and my grandparents ever

[16:33] were." So, I see a shift and people

[16:36] getting more health conscious and living

[16:38] longer. We are living longer.

[16:40] >> True.

[16:40] >> Um so, I'm because of my beliefs. So,

[16:44] when you have a belief, you are going to

[16:46] gather evidence to to support that

[16:48] belief.

[16:49] When you have a belief, you will gather

[16:51] evidence to support that belief. So, one

[16:54] of the ways to shift a belief and I

[16:55] wrote this in my book, Make Your Dreams

[16:57] Come True.

[16:58] When you have a belief that's limiting

[17:00] you,

[17:01] find a different belief, even though it

[17:04] looks opposite. It's like, "Well, no,

[17:05] but this is the one. This is the real

[17:07] one." Because you've gathered so much

[17:08] evidence, you've made it very real. If

[17:10] you start looking for a different

[17:12] belief, start gathering gathering

[17:14] evidence to support that that belief is

[17:16] true and watch how your life changes.

[17:18] Watch how your perspective changes.

[17:20] Watch how everything changes. That shows

[17:22] us that what we believe about the body

[17:25] and health and aging and what we have to

[17:27] do to stay healthy, there's something

[17:30] else going on, and there are living

[17:32] examples to show us that something else

[17:34] is going on. Well, we might see that for

[17:36] other people. How do we do it ourselves?

[17:39] Is it just a matter of switching your

[17:41] belief? Is there a practice? Well,

[17:43] number one, it's awareness.

[17:47] Number one, it's awareness because what

[17:49] I do now is I go, "Oh, la la la la." And

[17:50] I go, "Wait. Is that reality or is that

[17:52] just my belief about it?" Cuz again, if

[17:55] I have a belief, I'm going to see it

[17:56] that way.

[17:56] >> Mhm.

[17:57] >> So, I'll I'll I'll stop myself and go,

[18:00] "Is that a reality or is that my

[18:02] perception? Am I creating a story around

[18:04] it?" And then I stop. I go, "I I don't

[18:07] like that story. I'm not going to do

[18:08] that." No, but Pam, it's very

[18:09] convincing. That's reality, and people

[18:11] will tell you that. No, Pam, that's

[18:12] reality. You can't And I go, "It's just

[18:14] a story about reality." How about if we

[18:17] start telling a different story? But you

[18:19] understand how people are attached to

[18:20] it? So, I stop. I question it. I detach

[18:24] from the story. I get calm. What I do is

[18:27] I go into the field.

[18:29] >> Okay.

[18:29] >> I go into that quantum field. I connect

[18:33] with it. I release all the old stuff.

[18:35] Kind of like when whales go really deep,

[18:37] they're releasing barnacles off of them.

[18:39] >> Huh.

[18:39] >> Did you know that? They dive really

[18:41] deep, and the barnacles can't stay on

[18:42] them. That's one of the ways they get

[18:43] rid of barnacles. So,

[18:46] anyway, I go really deep. I connect. I

[18:47] go, "It's just a story. What story do I

[18:50] want to have instead?" And I start

[18:52] imagining a different truth, a different

[18:55] story, a different movie, a different

[18:57] scenario. And more often than not, Lisa,

[19:00] it happens.

[19:01] >> Even if it involves other people, like a

[19:03] boss?

[19:04] >> Quantum Oh, see parallel universes.

[19:07] >> Okay. So, say there's a boss or there's

[19:09] a job that

[19:10] is going away or layoffs are happening,

[19:12] and you think you're going to get fired.

[19:14] How do you go into this What did you

[19:16] call it?

[19:17] >> Parallel universes.

[19:18] >> Okay. Okay, now I'm really going to

[19:20] challenge people, but this is

[19:21] scientific. Um Stephen Hawking was even

[19:23] talking about parallel universes. They

[19:25] have scientific evidence that parallel

[19:28] universes exist.

[19:30] >> Really?

[19:31] >> Yeah. Yeah. So, what I'm going to do is

[19:33] give you an example. This And people

[19:35] understand this. Right now in the room

[19:37] you're sitting in, there's at least 10

[19:39] radio stations broadcasting around and

[19:41] those radio waves are around us right

[19:43] here.

[19:44] >> Right.

[19:44] >> We don't know they're going on because

[19:45] we're not tuned into them. If you turned

[19:47] on a radio right now and say adjusted it

[19:50] to 99.9,

[19:52] you're going to hear the show that's

[19:53] going on there, the music, the talk.

[19:55] That becomes your reality. It's a

[19:57] frequency.

[19:58] >> Now, if you adjust it and turn it to say

[20:00] 107,

[20:02] now all of a sudden that's your reality.

[20:04] You're hearing the music and the talk

[20:05] that's on that frequency, right? Now,

[20:08] 99.9 is still all around you. It's right

[20:11] there, but you're not tuned into it

[20:13] right now. You're not set to that

[20:14] frequency, so it's not part of your

[20:16] reality, but it still exists.

[20:18] >> Hm.

[20:19] >> So,

[20:20] there are parallel you know And the cool

[20:22] thing is is I studied it in quantum

[20:24] physics. I learned it and I went, "Okay,

[20:25] if that's true, I'm going to experiment

[20:27] with it." And I have done dramatic proof

[20:30] that those are real. Dramatic.

[20:33] And we We don't have time to go into all

[20:34] those stories, but I think I wrote about

[20:36] some of them in my book. You just tune

[20:38] into the different levels of

[20:40] >> creation.

[20:41] >> Um what I do is I know

[20:45] every time you have a thought or an

[20:47] imagination, believe it or not,

[20:49] according to spirituality and physics,

[20:51] that image becomes reality immediately.

[20:54] It already exists. That's even in uh law

[20:57] of attraction. As soon as you have uh

[20:59] use your imagination to imagine

[21:01] something, like there's a you that got

[21:04] married to somebody else when you were

[21:05] in high school. Right. a you that never

[21:07] got married at all. For every time you

[21:09] make a choice, another you splits off

[21:12] and goes off and has that all reality. I

[21:14] know that sounds like science fiction.

[21:17] >> Yeah, because how can I tap into that?

[21:20] >> You can if you believe it exists.

[21:21] >> No, I can't tap into my high school

[21:24] boyfriend and have and be married to him

[21:26] right now. I'm not.

[21:27] >> Because you because you don't believe

[21:29] it. But I've done that. I've shifted

[21:32] I've shifted from one reality where I

[21:34] wasn't with somebody and they said no

[21:36] way. I don't want to be with you. I'm

[21:37] not in love with you. I'm not

[21:38] interested. Went to the East Coast, went

[21:40] far away and went, "Okay, that's in

[21:42] reality one over here. I'm in love with

[21:44] this person. I really believe I I choose

[21:47] to be with him." I used my imagination

[21:50] to go into a different frequency where

[21:53] we were together.

[21:54] >> Okay.

[21:55] >> We have been together now for 35 years.

[21:58] >> Was that his will or yours?

[22:01] >> There's two him.

[22:03] There's still one that exists on these

[22:05] coast having a whole life off on his

[22:07] own. Do you understand this sliding

[22:08] doors frequency? There's a lot of movies

[22:10] about this. Back to the future,

[22:12] that's all about parallel universes. So,

[22:15] in this reality, I chose to align with

[22:18] the one that loved me and wanted to be

[22:20] with me and wanted to hang out with me.

[22:22] I chose that one. He's in that one, but

[22:25] he's also in this one over here where he

[22:26] chose not to. I didn't have to change

[22:28] him.

[22:29] I know it sounds weird, but it works.

[22:31] I've done it with life and death. I've

[22:33] done it with the weather. I've done it

[22:34] with a home. I've proven this parallel

[22:37] universe stuff all the time, but the key

[22:39] is you have to so believe that this

[22:42] reality is real and completely drop this

[22:46] one. And most people we do it all the

[22:48] time. We're changing realities all the

[22:50] time. We're like changing channels all

[22:52] the time.

[22:53] >> Yeah.

[22:53] >> But we don't know it because they're

[22:54] seamless. There's no walls. So, we think

[22:57] we're just in one, but we're shifting

[22:59] all the time.

[23:00] >> Like time zones.

[23:03] >> Well, here's a leap of faith. Now, I

[23:07] want you to check out this video and it

[23:09] is a workshop that Pam does frequently

[23:12] where she teaches people to bend spoons.

[23:14] Take a look. Now, when you're doing this

[23:16] by the way, I want you to

[23:18] practice this on your own. Just play

[23:20] along. Just go into that place of

[23:22] belief. Nothing to lose, everything to

[23:24] gain. Just take a look.

[23:27] >> So, everybody just take a deep breath

[23:30] and just

[23:32] hold your spoon.

[23:35] Now, feel energy, this white light

[23:38] energy coming in through the top of your

[23:40] head again and filling your head and

[23:43] just moving down through your head, down

[23:46] through your body, filling your entire

[23:48] body. It's this wonderful, beautiful,

[23:51] loving, powerful white light.

[23:55] And fill your entire body with it.

[24:01] And feel the energy now coming through

[24:04] your arms. Really amazing white light.

[24:10] And it's coming through your arms

[24:12] and now it's in your hands.

[24:15] And some of you may feel

[24:17] warmth. Some of you may feel tingling or

[24:20] vibration. Some of you may not feel

[24:23] anything at all.

[24:25] But just be relaxed and calm. This is

[24:28] fine. Everything's fine. Just be

[24:30] relaxed. It's okay.

[24:33] And feel the energy in your hands.

[24:38] Whatever you feel, nothing or warmth

[24:41] or tingling

[24:43] or vibration

[24:46] or the white light energy.

[24:50] Just feel it in your hands and feel that

[24:53] energy now go into your fork or spoon.

[24:56] Just feel the entire energy now

[24:59] in that spark that fork or spoon.

[25:02] And the energy is going back and forth

[25:05] and back and forth.

[25:08] And just breathe and be calm and it's

[25:10] just this fork or spoon is just filled

[25:13] with this energy now.

[25:16] And feel your hands.

[25:19] And feel your

[25:20] your spoon or fork. Just feel it.

[25:23] And just be relaxed.

[25:26] The energy in your hands, just feel that

[25:29] now.

[25:31] Feel that nice and calm.

[25:34] Nice and relaxed.

[25:36] Everything's fine. There's energy in

[25:38] your hands. Feel them tingle or

[25:39] whatever.

[25:40] Feel the utensil. Feel the energy in

[25:44] there.

[25:45] Now bend.

[25:46] Bend. Bend. Bend it. Bend it. Bend it.

[25:48] Bend it. Bend. Go. Bend. Bend your fork.

[25:51] Bend your spoon. Bend it.

[25:54] Okay. [clears throat]

[25:56] Okay.

[25:58] Make sure you're hold Okay. Did some of

[26:00] you guys bend it?

[26:02] >> [laughter]

[26:10] >> I got to say that is amazing. That is

[26:13] amazing that this happens a lot to you.

[26:16] Well, there's not a lot of call for bent

[26:18] spoons, okay? But the reason I do it is

[26:20] to show people that first of all, it's

[26:22] just energy. It's energy and it takes

[26:25] the form I mean, we think it's solid.

[26:27] And when people start bending spoons,

[26:28] they're like

[26:29] it [snorts] it makes them start

[26:30] questioning what they've been taught

[26:32] about reality. Everyone in the workshop

[26:34] was like, "Look. Look. Look what I did."

[26:36] And it just And you just said, "Do it

[26:37] now. Do it now. Do it now." And it And

[26:39] it is getting us out of our old

[26:43] limited thinking because first of all,

[26:46] it's boring. Second of all, it's causing

[26:49] a lot of suffering.

[26:51] >> [snorts]

[26:51] >> And I know that I'm on the planet in

[26:54] this lifetime to help shift that

[26:56] consciousness. We came here for the

[26:58] experience.

[26:59] >> Yes, we have.

[26:59] >> here to be able to experience

[27:00] compassion, love, walking on the beach,

[27:03] tasting ice cream, being on the

[27:04] carousel.

[27:05] >> Yes.

[27:06] >> Well, I encourage you to take this

[27:08] conversation and expand it in your own

[27:10] life in your own world. Find out where

[27:11] you play in level 1, 2, 3, 4, 5. And

[27:15] start to experiment just as Pam is

[27:16] doing. Thank you so much for sharing the

[27:19] levels of manifestation with us. I can't

[27:21] wait to try this myself.

[27:22] >> I know, and I tell people argue for your

[27:24] limitations and they're yours. I'm not

[27:26] going to try and tell people you have to

[27:27] do this. I'm just telling you it's

[27:29] possible. So, thanks for letting me talk

[27:31] about this. This was great.

[27:33] >> this conversation just leapt out in

[27:35] time. So, thank you so much. I

[27:36] appreciate it. And thank you for sharing

[27:38] this conversation with me as well. If

[27:40] you'd like to check out more

[27:41] interviewers, you can go to

[27:42] inspirationson gaia.com.

[27:45] I'm Lisa Garr, and until next time, I

[27:47] invite you to stay aware.

Gregg Braden
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Gregg Braden is an author, educator, and documentary producer whose books and media explore the intersection of science, spirituality, and human origins. He has published five New…

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Oslie describes a ladder that starts with hard work at level one and ends with a realization at level five that you and the desire are one. Level four is the pivotal stage, where you want something like ice cream and open your hand to find it there. The conversation gives the most detail on the top rungs, while levels two and three are described more briefly.
In Oslie's framework, level four is when the gap between wanting something and having it closes without strain. She uses a small example, a desire for ice cream, to illustrate receiving rather than reaching. The image of opening your hand captures the shift from gripping an outcome to allowing it.
Oslie says the two colors closest to the body reveal life purpose, personality, relationship style, money patterns and potential health issues. She describes yellow as creative and playful and violet as visionary and spiritual. She states she sees 14 aura colors and reads them both with her eyes and through intuition.
Oslie argues that once you hold a belief, you will gather evidence to support it, because the mind looks for proof and finds it in most situations. This is presented as a principle of attention rather than a measured finding. Readers can test it by tracking the evidence they notice for a belief over a few weeks.
Oslie says she has used imagination to move into a different frequency where a relationship that was refused in one reality became real in another, and says the couple has now been together for 35 years. These are her personal claims, and she says there is scientific evidence for parallel realities without naming specific studies in the excerpt. The video does not independently test the account.
Oslie advises yellows to exercise, connect with nature and keep a sense of humor, since they can become depressed without physical outlets. Violets, she says, should prioritize meditation and quiet time to connect their vision with something higher. Both pieces of advice are simple daily habits a reader can try without accepting the wider claims.

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