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Inspiration

Beyond Sight: How Consciousness Reveals Hidden Potential

Gaia
Gaia
Nov 4, 2026
7 Min. Lesezeit

Von Gaia

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At five years old, Caroline Cory encountered something that would reshape her entire life: a room filled with light, a telepathic conversation with beings she recognized as home. Decades later, she would use the camera to ask whether that childhood moment pointed toward something true about human consciousness—whether the limits we accept as fixed might actually be illusions we inherited.

Cory's path from that early paranormal experience to filmmaking wasn't a straight line. In college, her major was psychology and philosophy; film came in through electives—camera work, theater, acting—anything in the performing arts. But consciousness work remained her true focus. While her peers pursued conventional careers, she spent hours in meditation, dissecting every detail of her experiences, trying meditation after meditation to understand the mechanics of what was happening. "I wanted to make sure I wasn't crazy or something or defective," she explains. The turning point came during graduate school, when she realized she could perceive information beyond what others described—not imagined, not hallucinated, but genuinely visible to her. "I could see things beyond his body," she recalls of a professor. "Like, I could see the information of a block or subconscious or whatever pattern that he's talking about, but I could see it."

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The Frequency That Opens Doors

That recognition triggered a deeper investigation. After 21 consecutive days of intensive meditation practice, something shifted. Cory connected with what she describes as an original signature frequency—the same one she'd encountered as a child. "It was like the frequency that I had seen when I was 5 years old that kind of brought me back to where I saw I came from," she says. That breakthrough became the foundation for everything that followed: the belief that each person has a specific frequency that allows them to "tap into the intelligence of all that is basically."

For years, Cory taught these methodologies privately, developing what she calls evidence-based approaches to consciousness work. Remote viewing sessions where participants would describe what lay beyond a wall or what was happening at their home—and then verification would confirm their accuracy. Healing practices with measurable results. The more data accumulated, the more she recognized that what she was exploring wasn't fringe philosophy; it was something demonstrable, repeatable, real. But the work remained unknown outside a small circle. She wanted to reach mainstream audiences, and she knew how: through film, paired with science.

Film as a Vehicle for Invisible Truth

This is where the documentary films Superhuman (2020) and Superhuman: The Rebirth emerge not as curiosities but as serious artistic commitments. Cory approaches filmmaking with a deliberate philosophy: she begins not with narrative structure or technical requirements, but with energy and intention. "What is that energy? Energy of source, the pure pure unconditional love, you know, that comes through in any form," she describes. From that foundation, she makes her documentaries visually cinematic—unusual for the form—because she believes the visual language itself must embody the consciousness she's exploring.

She's thoughtful about documentary craft in ways that reveal artistic maturity. While many assume documentaries are easier than scripted work, the opposite is true. There's no actor delivering a predetermined line. Instead, you're working with raw reality, hours of material, a puzzle you must reassemble to reveal the story that was always there. Cory embedded visual symbolism deliberately: filming at 24 frames a second, watching how faces change, how the smallest details accumulate into something that bypasses the rational mind and speaks directly to feeling. "You want them to feel something that you felt," she says. "You want to transmit that energy through the film."

Seeing Without Eyes: The Real Story

The central investigation in both Superhuman and Superhuman: The Rebirth focuses on blindfolded and blind participants learning to perceive their environment without eyesight. This isn't stage magic or wishful thinking. Cory documents specific individuals training to develop what might be called non-visual perception—the ability to sense obstacles, read colors, navigate space. The science behind the findings points to parts of the brain and nervous system that most people never activate. The rods and cones of the eye aren't the only biological structures involved in seeing; the entire nervous system participates in perception.

But the most compelling story within the film isn't about abstract human potential. It's personal. One participant is a father who has been blind since childhood. His longing is specific and achingly human: to see his daughter. "I'd like to see my daughter," he tells Cory. That statement carries a weight that no statistics about brain plasticity could match. When confronted with the possibility that blindness might not be the absolute barrier he'd always accepted, his whole worldview trembles. The film captures that psychological moment—when belief itself becomes the variable that might determine what becomes possible.

The Role of Belief in What We Can Do

This touches on something Cory emphasizes repeatedly: the extraordinary power of belief and intention in accessing hidden capabilities. She recounts the story of one blind participant, autistic since age seven, who had internalized a lifetime of "I can't" messages. "No one can do that. So when you believe that, you literally shut down the neurological pathways," Cory explains. But when training began, something shifted. The participant moved from skepticism to tentative engagement to genuine capacity. The shift wasn't the development of a new sense; it was the removal of a mental brake.

This principle extends beyond the blindfolded exercises. Cory suggests that much of human potential remains unclaimed not because we lack the biology, but because we've accepted cultural narratives about what's possible. "You don't have to be blind and be able to do this," she notes. "Let's say you broke a leg or you think you can never do something. It's just believing and trusting." The invitation is radical: if you stop accepting your limits as fixed, what becomes available?

Consciousness, Not Disability

The films resist the temptation to turn disability into inspiration porn or to frame blindness as tragic. Instead, Cory asks a different question: What if blindness, or any physical limitation, reveals something about how consciousness actually works? The blind participants aren't overcoming blindness; they're discovering capacities that everyone possesses but most never develop. Vision without eyes isn't a superhuman achievement—it's a reminder that human potential is far less fixed than we've been taught.

When someone watches Superhuman or Superhuman: The Rebirth, they're not watching a film about exceptional people with exceptional abilities. They're watching a mirror. The participants in the film are demonstrating something you also carry inside yourself. The question Cory's work poses isn't "How remarkable are these people?" but rather "What am I capable of if I release my belief in my own limitations?"

Where to go from here

The practical invitation from Cory's work is neither mystical nor passive. It begins with attention to intention—noticing what you truly believe is possible for yourself and where those beliefs came from. It continues with the kind of meditative self-inquiry Cory practiced for years: sitting with your own experience, dissecting what's actually happening versus what you assume is happening, testing the boundaries of your own perception. Her documentaries serve as evidence that the boundary between normal and superhuman is thinner than most people imagine. The rest is up to you: a willingness to ask, to look again, to believe that your limits might be more permeable than you've been told.

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[0:09] Coming up today on The Pulse.

[0:11] >> I I love speaking with filmmakers. This

[0:14] [music]

[0:15] affinity of knowing why it is that we do

[0:18] what we do and the impact we're really

[0:20] imparting.

[0:22] >> Superhuman is mostly about

[0:25] >> [music]

[0:25] >> really the beauty and the strength and

[0:29] the empowerment of the human spirit.

[0:34] >> But do you see your films as like

[0:35] mirrors, portals,

[0:38] um

[0:38] >> [music]

[0:38] >> how do they reflect or shift

[0:40] consciousness?

[0:47] What happens when two creators who use

[0:49] the lens to explore the unseen sit down

[0:52] to talk?

[0:53] Well, today I'm joined by filmmaker

[0:55] Carolyn Cory and we're diving into the

[0:57] heart of our shared craft, storytelling,

[1:00] filmmaking.

[1:01] Plus, we'll tackle the big questions.

[1:03] What does it truly mean to be more than

[1:05] human?

[1:06] How can each of us tap into the

[1:08] superhero that lives within our own

[1:10] psyche?

[1:12] All that and more right now on The

[1:14] Pulse.

[1:15] Carolyn, welcome.

[1:16] >> Hey Van, thanks for having me.

[1:19] >> First, I'd like to chat about um what

[1:21] the art form means to us as filmmaker.

[1:25] Like what, you know, where does your

[1:27] passion for filmmaking

[1:29] and consciousness, filmmaking about

[1:31] conscious topics, originate?

[1:33] >> Well, it started for me as my own

[1:35] personal experience as a child. I would

[1:38] have all these experiences, even when I

[1:41] was five.

[1:43] I had encounters, you know, I had this

[1:47] this encounter with What it was it it

[1:50] looked like light that filled up the

[1:52] room and I realized that they were

[1:55] beings and we were talking

[1:58] telepathically, obviously.

[2:00] >> Mhm.

[2:00] >> And um and I just it just felt so

[2:04] comfortable and like that was home for

[2:07] me. So, I kept the line open, so to

[2:11] speak, and they basically

[2:13] >> Five.

[2:14] >> Oh, you were five. Wow.

[2:16] >> Yeah.

[2:17] And and so and I remember like every

[2:20] detail.

[2:22] Uh so, they said something like you

[2:24] know, this connection will always be

[2:27] with you. But, you have to ask. So, they

[2:31] So, I'm So, you know, you're 5 years

[2:33] old. Like, what does What does that

[2:34] mean? And so, they kept saying, "Look at

[2:37] what your brain is doing now." And do it

[2:40] again and do it again. And so, you know,

[2:43] I'm 5 years old. Like, I want And and

[2:45] then they say, "Ask for it." So, I kept

[2:47] saying, "I want this. I want this. I

[2:48] want this."

[2:50] And so, and then they left. And it they

[2:53] literally felt like

[2:55] that's where like I had come from. It

[2:58] was very familiar. It's like I know

[3:00] this. It's who I am, you know. It's very

[3:03] interesting.

[3:04] But, of course, I didn't say anything to

[3:06] anyone because I thought, "Oh, all the

[3:10] children do that." You know, it's like

[3:12] it's no big deal. Nothing special.

[3:13] You're not special. And so So, I didn't

[3:16] say anything. But, it was later that I

[3:18] realized like, "What? What

[3:21] What was that?" You know. And um

[3:24] So, as I grew up, I continued to have

[3:27] those types of events. And

[3:31] uh in college, I I wanted to study

[3:33] psychology like to make sure I wasn't

[3:35] crazy or something or defective. Um or

[3:39] that I was imagining things, you know.

[3:42] Like, I wanted to make sure I didn't

[3:44] make things up. So, of course, you know,

[3:47] obviously, there's nothing wrong with

[3:49] me. Uh it was more like when we got to

[3:52] graduate school, I would talk to the

[3:54] teacher. I realized that I could see

[3:57] things beyond his body. Like, I could

[4:00] see the information

[4:03] of a block or subconscious or whatever

[4:06] pattern that he's talking about, but I

[4:08] could see it.

[4:09] >> Mhm.

[4:09] >> And so

[4:11] So, this is how I you know, after I

[4:14] ruled out the the the possibility that

[4:17] something was wrong with me.

[4:19] I said, wait, this is what consciousness

[4:22] is. And I started to really really go

[4:26] deep into not just what is

[4:29] consciousness, but how does it work?

[4:31] Like

[4:33] What happens so that my brain can see

[4:37] space and things and hear things that

[4:40] other people couldn't?

[4:43] And could I go back there and do it

[4:45] again on purpose?

[4:47] So, that got me on a whole journey of

[4:52] self-exploration. I would sit for hours

[4:54] and hours and hours in meditation and

[4:58] try this meditation and that meditation

[5:01] and like what's the difference and how

[5:03] is my body changing and where am I

[5:05] focused and how do I know I didn't make

[5:07] you know, like I would dissect, you

[5:09] know, every tiny little thing that was

[5:12] happening.

[5:13] Uh and I remember it was 21 days in a

[5:16] row.

[5:17] And after the 21st day

[5:21] I it just clicked. It was like

[5:24] the frequency that I had seen when I was

[5:27] 5 years old that kind of brought me back

[5:31] to where I saw I came from or whatever.

[5:35] That's kind of like

[5:37] like the original like signature

[5:39] frequency that I need to go back to.

[5:43] And so

[5:44] Um and and I kind of started to base

[5:47] everything on that principle. That you

[5:52] have a specific frequency that allows

[5:56] you to

[5:58] tap into the intelligence of all that is

[6:02] basically.

[6:03] Because in that [clears throat] space,

[6:05] yeah.

[6:06] >> Well, I was just going to say and like

[6:08] did film come in around the time of

[6:10] college or

[6:13] >> So so in college I took classes, you

[6:15] know,

[6:16] I went to like you know, with electives.

[6:19] It wasn't my major. My major was

[6:20] psychology and philosophy. Uh but then I

[6:23] would take a film class like um camera

[6:28] stuff and then but also theater like I

[6:31] would like anything performance and um

[6:34] and acting and you know, the whole

[6:36] thing. Uh but it wasn't my main thing.

[6:40] It was more eventually it became my day

[6:42] job. Uh I was more in the performing

[6:44] arts

[6:45] at first and then uh I started filming

[6:49] events, but it was just like student

[6:52] quality, nothing special. It wasn't

[6:53] really a focus of mine.

[6:56] The focus was all of this deep

[6:58] consciousness work and the more I

[7:01] explored, the more I understand.

[7:04] Uh I understood the mechanics of how

[7:07] things happen and I started developing

[7:09] methodologies

[7:11] and teaching other people.

[7:13] And so

[7:15] so that's really the background.

[7:17] And then the more we started to have

[7:20] real evidence that whatever we were

[7:24] doing was real, we weren't making it up

[7:26] cuz cuz we have evidence like remote

[7:28] viewing, you know, you you say you want

[7:32] to see what's on the other side of the

[7:33] wall or whatever and then then it's

[7:35] there, it's exactly what you saw or

[7:36] whatever, you know, or you saw what's

[7:39] happening at your house and then you

[7:41] call and then it's exactly what you just

[7:43] saw. So you when you have evidence over

[7:46] and over, you start to believe that what

[7:48] you're doing is working.

[7:50] Same with healing and everything else.

[7:52] So then I wanted to expand and tell

[7:57] mainstream like hey, this is not woo

[8:00] stuff. This is real.

[8:02] And this is where the filmmaking

[8:05] I thought the best way to reach more of

[8:08] a mainstream is to tell those stories

[8:11] through film

[8:13] and through science, you know, because

[8:16] that's kind of my angle.

[8:19] >> So, like how do you how do you view your

[8:21] films? I as a filmmaker and I I

[8:24] I have very little point of reference to

[8:26] to know whether the way that I look at

[8:28] it is the same way as other filmmakers.

[8:32] Um

[8:32] but do you see your films as like

[8:33] mirrors, portals? Um

[8:37] how do they reflect or shift

[8:38] consciousness? This one to two-hour

[8:42] audio-visual thing that you you

[8:44] carefully craft and then it goes out and

[8:47] here's a piece of art. You could have

[8:49] done a book, you could have gone out and

[8:51] done, you know, more talks, um but it's

[8:53] a film. How do you view films as an art

[8:56] form to impact people?

[8:59] >> Well, it's like in everything that I do,

[9:01] whether it's a book or a lecture or

[9:04] anything, I'm I really start with

[9:07] energy. The focus, my intention is to

[9:10] bring that energy through. What is that

[9:12] energy? Energy of source, the pure pure

[9:17] um unconditional love, you know, that

[9:19] comes through in any form. So, when you

[9:22] start with that principle, then you're

[9:24] guided to, you know,

[9:28] uh first of all, I also like to make my

[9:30] movies very cinematic. Even though as

[9:32] you well know,

[9:34] um documentaries

[9:36] are not necessarily cinematic. I mean,

[9:38] nobody but I use that

[9:41] um

[9:42] um

[9:43] medium, you know, the film to to show

[9:47] also the beauty of the simplicity of of

[9:53] um

[9:54] um documentaries because

[9:57] and people have the wrong idea about

[9:59] documentaries. They think

[10:01] it's you should know, right?

[10:03] Uh they think that it's easier

[10:07] when actually it's much harder because

[10:09] you don't have a script. I mean, you

[10:11] have an outline or what have you,

[10:13] but you're not just following hey, the

[10:16] actor says his line and that's it.

[10:19] You have all kinds of information that

[10:21] like a puzzle that you have to put back

[10:23] together.

[10:24] >> Yeah.

[10:24] >> So, I used to film uh

[10:26] >> [clears throat]

[10:27] >> Excuse me. I used to the visuals as well

[10:32] to embed and reflect

[10:35] the what I'm trying to convey.

[10:38] Especially in Superhuman. Superhuman is

[10:41] mostly about really the beauty and the

[10:46] strength and the empowerment of the

[10:49] human spirit.

[10:51] So, as I'm showing somebody talking

[10:53] about it, like I want the lighting to be

[10:56] beautiful, I want the set to be

[10:58] beautiful, the angles. You know, we

[11:01] shoot with like a million cameras, which

[11:03] is absolutely unnecessary,

[11:05] but it's like no, well, maybe we can

[11:08] sneak in a

[11:09] drone shot here just to for different

[11:12] angle. The

[11:13] So, the multi-dimensionality

[11:15] of life,

[11:17] uh the beauty of uh and I'm talking in

[11:21] specifically for a super Superhuman, of

[11:25] um

[11:26] the human spirit that I'm trying to

[11:28] awaken in people,

[11:30] I use that as a tool

[11:33] uh in in the lighting, the sound, the

[11:35] music.

[11:37] Um this time I attracted

[11:41] out of the blue. I mean, you know how it

[11:43] goes.

[11:44] Amazing composers.

[11:47] And they did films for Scorsese's and I

[11:51] mean, they're, you know, and they found

[11:54] me and they said, "We want to do music

[11:57] for you." And I said, "But hey, I'm not

[11:59] a studio and you know, I don't have

[12:01] Scorsese's budget." And they're like,

[12:03] "No, no, no, we love your work." And

[12:05] So, I know, and they ended up making the

[12:09] music and it's just

[12:10] amazing. So, when you start with the

[12:14] energy like I could feel their energy

[12:17] wanting, you know what I mean? And so,

[12:20] you end up with beautiful things in

[12:21] film. But, you have to have the

[12:24] inclination.

[12:25] >> Yeah. And so, you start with that energy

[12:28] and then you launch it and then you

[12:30] start getting feedback. What's the most

[12:32] profound

[12:34] feedback that you've gotten from

[12:36] someone? And it could be a type of

[12:38] feedback or a specific one of somebody

[12:41] whose consciousness was shifted based

[12:43] upon watching your film.

[12:45] >> I mean, some people literally tell me,

[12:47] "Your film changed my life."

[12:50] I mean, that's like when you hear that,

[12:52] you're like, "What?" You know, I mean,

[12:54] I'm not really I mean, expecting

[12:56] because I'm really just listening to my

[12:59] guidance, what I need to express.

[13:03] And what, you know, what I need to show

[13:07] in this film. So, I'm focused on that to

[13:09] make sure

[13:11] like I we were the music, the colors,

[13:14] the texture, the edit, the pace the pace

[13:18] because you know

[13:19] American television is like chop, chop,

[13:21] chop, boom, boom, boom, effect, effect

[13:24] of it's like

[13:24] >> ADHD inducing. Yeah.

[13:26] >> Yeah. Yeah.

[13:28] And so, that's not how I cut the films,

[13:31] you know, which American Thank God.

[13:33] American television now is is different,

[13:36] you know, we're in a different world of

[13:38] distribution and platforms and

[13:40] streaming. So, you can pretty much do

[13:42] whatever you want. There are no rules

[13:44] really for documentaries.

[13:46] So, I used that to just really listen to

[13:50] what is the feeling here. Do you want Do

[13:53] you need a breather after you say this

[13:56] voiceover? You know, the editor

[13:58] sometimes is like, "Wait, that's too

[14:00] long." I'm like, "No, add three more

[14:02] frames." Like, "That's not going to do

[14:03] anything." I'm like, "It is. Just trust

[14:05] me." You know what I mean? Like, three

[14:07] more frames? Nothing. It's not going to

[14:08] do anything. So, every component of it,

[14:13] if you are in alignment and really

[14:17] focusing on what the intention is, which

[14:19] is the energy coming through, the energy

[14:22] of beauty, the energy of empowering, the

[14:24] energy of whatever love or whatever,

[14:28] then like you make choices that

[14:31] technically don't make sense in the

[14:34] industry standards, let's say, like the

[14:36] editing pace, the colors like I said,

[14:39] the angles and things like that. Uh but

[14:43] because you've done it in this way from

[14:46] that point of view, the end result, uh

[14:50] when people watch it, there's all kinds

[14:53] of stuff that starts to happen. And they

[14:55] want to watch it again and again. Some

[14:58] Some people say, "I watched your movie

[15:00] 10 times." Like even though like, you

[15:03] know, they know the story, but there's

[15:05] something that they're picking up

[15:07] energetically because they're sensing

[15:10] that.

[15:11] >> Yes. I mean, this This hits real close

[15:14] to home. And it's the same reason why we

[15:16] listen to a song over and over because

[15:18] it's not like, "Oh, I need to know what

[15:20] the lyrics say so I can go on with my

[15:22] day with the that information."

[15:24] It's a feeling state we want to swim in

[15:27] longer.

[15:28] Um so, I've I've gotten that feedback

[15:31] from my first few films, people saying

[15:32] like, "I can't see the world the way I

[15:34] used to see it before watching this

[15:36] film."

[15:37] And that that always seemed like like,

[15:39] "Wow, is it Is that true?" And I kept

[15:43] getting it Still to this day, I get that

[15:44] feedback on my first few films.

[15:46] And just a a quick story on

[15:50] the evolution of me as a filmmaker, I've

[15:51] always been there not to

[15:54] uh I didn't sell my first few films. I

[15:56] just put them out there for the world to

[15:58] see because I was really interested in

[16:00] impact. And then I made a film with

[16:02] Aubrey Marcus called Awaken the

[16:04] Darkness. He spent 6 days in dark. And I

[16:07] made a film on that. And I loved the

[16:09] challenge of like, most the film he's in

[16:12] darkness. Like, "What am I going to do

[16:14] with all that space?" And I I cover it,

[16:17] but I do so in like a dream-like state.

[16:19] The point that I'm driving at is there

[16:21] is

[16:21] as I was making the film, I spent 3

[16:24] months, which is more than a quarter of

[16:26] the time I spent on the entire film, on

[16:29] one part of the film. It was a minute

[16:31] and 44 seconds. And he had this loopy

[16:34] thing going on in the dark where he just

[16:36] started chanting. He was like, "I just

[16:37] talked to God." I said, "I love you,

[16:39] God." And God just said, "Good."

[16:42] But he he started chanting the word good

[16:44] in that low voice and it was

[16:46] it was funny,

[16:48] but I was like, he's speaking for God

[16:50] and I have to cover this somehow,

[16:52] but it can't be so discernable, right?

[16:55] Like, you know, God like there may be a

[16:57] story there, but it can't be so

[16:58] discernable. So, I decided every single

[17:00] frame which there's 24 frames in a

[17:02] second, I put a new image, but I lined

[17:04] the image up with something where 24

[17:07] frames a second faces are changing, but

[17:09] the eyes are all lined up. And it morphs

[17:12] [clears throat] into different things.

[17:13] And so, it tells a story, but it's going

[17:15] super fast. The point of this is

[17:19] halfway through I was like, "Dude, if

[17:21] Aubrey doesn't like this, I quit

[17:22] filmmaking cuz I don't know what I'm

[17:24] doing." You know, it's scary. I didn't

[17:26] know if it was going to hit. He might

[17:27] just think it's weird, but I did it. We

[17:30] screened it. He thought it was great.

[17:32] Everyone thought it was great. And I

[17:33] remember reflecting on that and being

[17:35] like,

[17:36] "Is that why I did it? So, people could

[17:38] think it's cool?" It's like, "I'm not

[17:39] chasing cool." There was a reason I did

[17:42] that and it perplexed me for months

[17:43] until my friend John Chavez sent me He

[17:46] watches a lot of paranormal podcasts and

[17:48] he sent me

[17:49] this podcast of this lady

[17:51] who was first-time caller to a

[17:54] paranormal show saying, "I saw this

[17:55] film."

[17:56] And I was watching it. It's about this

[17:58] guy in darkness, but then there was this

[17:59] one spot where all these images flash.

[18:02] And luckily, I was on my bed cuz I

[18:04] whited out. And I was just thinking,

[18:05] "Oh, man, where's this story going?" She

[18:07] says she she laid down on the bed. She

[18:09] whited out.

[18:11] But

[18:12] when the room came back into focus,

[18:14] there were all these entities doing

[18:16] energy work on her stomach. The thing

[18:18] she hadn't said yet was she had cancer,

[18:21] riddled throughout her stomach.

[18:23] When she eventually came to, she got up

[18:26] off the bed, went to the bathroom.

[18:28] Sorry, a little graphic, but she said

[18:29] she started throwing up a lot of black

[18:31] sludge and whatever. And it was

[18:33] occurring to her at that moment, how did

[18:36] I move and get off the bed without

[18:37] excruciating pain?

[18:39] And so she went through this whole story

[18:41] and she said, I I haven't confirmed yet,

[18:44] but I'm pretty sure I'm in remission. I

[18:46] feel incredible. And for me, I didn't

[18:49] take credit for that, but I was like,

[18:51] that's the reason I spent 3 months on

[18:53] this one little piece. I don't even need

[18:55] to know what the real effect of it is. I

[18:57] don't need to know if she actually went

[18:59] into remission. But it was like, I

[19:01] didn't do that to be cool. I not for so

[19:04] people would just be like, oh, rad, cool

[19:06] camera angle or something like that. It

[19:08] was really, I think the same thing that

[19:10] you're talking about is

[19:12] you want them to feel something that

[19:14] potentially they don't give themselves

[19:16] permission to feel the fullness of what

[19:18] life can offer. And if you give them

[19:20] permission and they say yes, and then

[19:23] somehow you still empower them with

[19:25] that, you can transform people to where

[19:27] they're like, it changed my life. And I

[19:30] know that your work is doing that.

[19:31] You've reached many, many, many people.

[19:34] So, I just want to say that I I love

[19:37] speaking with filmmakers. This affinity

[19:40] of knowing why it is that we do what we

[19:42] do, and the impact we're really

[19:44] imparting, and also understanding

[19:47] art. Like, art is it some people say,

[19:50] you know, it's lies, they're

[19:52] fabrications. I'm like, there's a

[19:53] difference between a lie and spinning a

[19:56] story to point towards a deeper truth.

[19:58] And I think that's um what I'm sensing

[20:00] in your work as well, why you bring the

[20:02] cinematic element to it, because there's

[20:05] a visceral experience to that while

[20:07] you're watching it.

[20:09] >> Yeah, absolutely. And also, so I love

[20:12] what you just said and shared. It's

[20:14] amazing. Yeah, it's because it's your

[20:16] energy. It's the energy of already doing

[20:20] this work. You're doing the work of

[20:23] consciousness and just right off the

[20:26] bat, it's going to give

[20:29] you know, the a different texture

[20:32] to those who are open. And

[20:34] and that's why people can have amazing

[20:36] experiences just from watching. Um so

[20:39] yeah, I I totally love that. Uh but but

[20:44] also another thing that happens with

[20:47] art. I think it's just an it's an

[20:50] extension

[20:51] of who you are.

[20:54] Um the colors and the the the the

[20:56] symmetry or the non-symmetry. Like

[20:59] sometimes I do I leave negative space on

[21:03] purpose. The camera guy was like, I

[21:06] mean, the guy needs to be the guy I'm

[21:08] interviewing. Um you know, there's a lot

[21:11] of negative space. I'm like, just let me

[21:14] That's like, I didn't know why also at

[21:16] the time. I just felt like he just had

[21:19] to have negative space here.

[21:21] And then it was just filled with energy.

[21:24] So there's also what happens is um

[21:28] when you're working in this way coming

[21:30] from a place of energy and

[21:31] consciousness, I think you're also

[21:34] tapping into the multi-dimensionality

[21:36] of things. That's why people want to

[21:39] watch it over and over cuz it's not just

[21:41] they get the story. It's not but they're

[21:44] glued to it because it's tapping into

[21:48] different layers of their own

[21:50] consciousness. And they keep kind of

[21:52] picking up different details every time.

[21:55] So [clears throat] this

[21:56] multi-dimensional aspect is what expands

[22:00] consciousness. Uh you see because

[22:03] because you we're only focused on our 3D

[22:06] every day and the phone and I mean, you

[22:08] know. And so when you're watching a

[22:10] movie and then you're expanding

[22:14] just naturally. That's why I love this

[22:16] because a lot of people don't want to go

[22:18] to a workshop. A lot of people don't

[22:20] want to read a book. They don't want to

[22:22] do I I have so many I have like 600

[22:26] classes and sessions on my website.

[22:28] People don't want Some people don't want

[22:30] to do that. They don't want to sit and

[22:32] meditate or do a specific exercise. So,

[22:36] I'm doing it through the film. Just

[22:38] watch the film and allow things to

[22:41] happen.

[22:42] So, that's why I I feel like our work is

[22:45] uh so interesting and I'm so glad you're

[22:48] bringing this up

[22:50] um as well and appreciating, you know,

[22:53] um this craft.

[22:55] >> Yeah, there's so much that goes into the

[22:57] craft. So, um me as a fellow filmmaker,

[23:00] I I love pointing at the nuances that

[23:03] for most people, they they think what it

[23:06] is. Most people probably do think

[23:08] they're just getting the script embedded

[23:11] in them and it happens to be accompanied

[23:13] by music and visuals. And but some other

[23:17] part of them knows. There's There's more

[23:19] substance to this. And for the audience,

[23:21] if you haven't seen Superhuman, it's a

[23:24] must-see. And you can watch the series

[23:26] here on Gaia. And we're going to take a

[23:29] look at one of those highlights right

[23:31] now.

[23:32] >> The photons that are bouncing off of the

[23:33] objects are going in through my eyes.

[23:36] The rods and cones are producing an

[23:38] electrical signal that goes to the back

[23:40] of my brain, which reconstructs an

[23:41] image.

[23:43] So, what I'm really looking at when I

[23:44] look at the piece of paper, tin foil, or

[23:47] toothpick, whatever it is I'm moving,

[23:49] I'm looking at my own mind. If we were

[23:52] truly separate from each other, there's

[23:54] no way we'd be able to do PK because of

[23:57] the inherent separateness.

[23:59] But if we can

[24:00] dissolve that [music] sense that we're

[24:01] separate from everything and increase

[24:03] the sense that we're already one,

[24:06] then that makes PK possible. Of course,

[24:09] it's possible [music] because when I'm

[24:10] moving an object, I'm moving my own

[24:12] mind.

[24:13] >> I remember seeing the the trailer to

[24:16] that film a while back, but that came

[24:18] out in It came out in 2020, correct?

[24:21] >> Yeah, 2020. So, 5 years ago, 6 years ago

[24:25] now. Wow. And what's amazing is that

[24:29] first of all that film had a huge

[24:31] success which also I wasn't expecting. I

[24:34] was like this is what I'm supposed to

[24:35] do. I'm doing it and that's that.

[24:37] >> You got some heavy hitters. You didn't

[24:38] expect success?

[24:41] >> Well,

[24:42] I I mean no. I mean yeah. I I was

[24:45] hoping.

[24:46] It's like I don't know. It was just you

[24:48] would just put it out there and then you

[24:49] see what happens.

[24:50] >> Yeah.

[24:51] >> But what was really amazing was uh you

[24:54] know as you know we talked about

[24:57] or we demonstrated with scientists how

[25:00] to you know to

[25:02] do experiments with water changing the

[25:04] pH of water changing the electrical

[25:07] conductivity of DNA. Um how to do remote

[25:11] viewing you know all of this these kind

[25:14] of abilities um that are considered

[25:17] paranormal basically.

[25:20] I feel at the end of the day that's what

[25:22] my work is about is to make the

[25:23] paranormal normal like Yeah. This is

[25:27] this is you know this is the science

[25:30] behind it and it's real. It's not woo

[25:32] woo. It's normal.

[25:34] >> Yeah.

[25:34] >> think the most

[25:37] Yeah. The most like amazing thing that

[25:40] happened from that film was those kids

[25:42] with the blindfolds.

[25:44] I mean to this day I still when I post

[25:48] about it or talk about it it still goes

[25:51] viral like crazy.

[25:53] >> Yeah.

[25:54] >> And people are so intrigued by the

[25:57] ability to see without their eyes.

[26:00] And so there's something about that

[26:03] human perception um and so of course I

[26:07] had to make sure to debunk you know the

[26:11] the folks that weren't doing it

[26:13] correctly or whatever by bringing

[26:15] science. And so we had scientists check

[26:19] their um

[26:21] the mask we put cameras inside the

[26:23] masks. We

[26:25] uh we we put a a probe to make sure

[26:28] there's no light and also to measure the

[26:30] dilation of the pupils. I mean, you

[26:32] know, the whole thing to prove that

[26:34] there is zero light coming going inside

[26:37] the mask. And they were still seeing

[26:39] with 100% accuracy.

[26:42] And then of course then eventually they

[26:44] would see behind their back. So so

[26:47] there's something about this phenomenon

[26:49] that really

[26:51] captivates people.

[26:53] So I wanted to do like go to the next

[26:56] level and in Superhuman 2

[26:59] I said, well, if we did that with

[27:01] sighted people, how about blind people?

[27:04] And so so we started working with blind

[27:06] people even though I had some in the

[27:08] first movie.

[27:09] Um

[27:11] So we worked with blind people in

[27:13] Superhuman 2 and after 3 days they

[27:16] started to see.

[27:18] So and then from there of course we

[27:21] expanded into a science study and

[27:23] everything else. And

[27:24] >> Yeah.

[27:25] These are superhuman abilities that

[27:27] we're talking about. I think the thing

[27:29] the reason why you can still post these

[27:30] children

[27:32] um reading through blindfolds

[27:35] uh is

[27:36] because deep down inside people who

[27:39] watch that

[27:40] two things pop up strongly. One is this

[27:44] it can't be real. This seems too far

[27:46] outside of what I've ever seen or other

[27:49] people around me has ever called normal.

[27:51] And then there's this other part of

[27:53] people that is like, but I want it to be

[27:55] real. I just don't want to be played for

[27:56] a fool. So I'm sure watching your film

[28:00] people have these they're they're kind

[28:02] of wrestling with this like, do I

[28:03] believe it? Is it just, you know, um is

[28:07] it just film magic? And really I think

[28:09] deep down inside people do know

[28:13] that there is something inside of us

[28:15] that is beyond what you would call just

[28:17] human, superhuman. What is

[28:20] if we had to kind of like just come up

[28:21] with that term superhuman, what does

[28:23] that mean to you?

[28:27] I think that it's the ability uh that we

[28:29] all have. You don't have to have

[28:32] you know, any sort of talent born with

[28:35] any sort of talent, it's just to

[28:37] recognize the ability to go beyond

[28:42] what is considered normal, you know,

[28:44] within the human limitation. That is

[28:47] tapping into your superhuman abilities.

[28:49] It's actually

[28:51] and and it's not just about being

[28:53] telepathic or doing telekinesis or

[28:57] moving objects or floating on water or

[28:59] something like that. That's not what

[29:00] we're talking about. This is a different

[29:03] principle. You now you're breaking laws

[29:05] like, you know, people who think you

[29:07] have to walk on water to be superhuman.

[29:09] That's a different thing. You're talking

[29:11] about gravity and everything else. But

[29:14] to be telepathic or, you know, to to

[29:17] move a a light object or something like

[29:20] that, that's within

[29:22] you know, you're not breaking laws of

[29:25] the universe, so to speak. And so, but

[29:28] we don't go beyond that. We're so

[29:30] limited by what we're taught and what

[29:33] we're, yeah, what we're told is normal,

[29:36] you know. Beyond that is weird.

[29:39] Um and so that's kind of what I wanted

[29:41] to show that it's a simple

[29:45] kind of shift

[29:46] to drop the limits that we think we

[29:50] have, we impose on ourselves. Um and

[29:54] then just go beyond that. So,

[29:58] yeah.

[30:00] >> Well, so you mentioned superhuman, uh

[30:03] the rebirth. That was the sequel you're

[30:05] you're speaking about. I'm really

[30:06] impressed, to say the least, at the

[30:09] caliber of people and the topics that

[30:10] you've explored about human

[30:12] consciousness.

[30:13] And that's actually precisely why I made

[30:16] my show on Gaia called Limitless, which

[30:18] dives into several similar topics.

[30:23] Um

[30:24] but I want to point out the line of the

[30:26] text in the trailer that says, "What if

[30:29] what we believed

[30:31] was impossible is now possible?" So, in

[30:35] your opinion, what does it truly mean to

[30:37] label something as impossible?

[30:41] >> Yeah, again, so so I think um

[30:45] you know, we wanted this uh

[30:47] log line because of uh what happened

[30:51] with one of the blind folks.

[30:54] Even like the other for example, the the

[30:56] prodigies, the kids that were prodigies

[30:59] or the autistic kid who uh who played

[31:02] the who taught himself to read music

[31:06] through the software who plays the

[31:07] piano. I mean, he's unbelievable at the

[31:10] age of seven. Imagine being autistic and

[31:13] teaching yourself music and playing I'm

[31:16] talking Chopin, Rachmaninoff, Bach I

[31:19] mean, like very difficult uh pieces. In

[31:23] fact, when we were filming, I told him,

[31:26] "Do you know because I I played

[31:27] classical music?" So, I said, "Can you

[31:29] play that one Beethoven piece?" And he

[31:33] said, "I never played it." But then he

[31:34] found it in the software

[31:37] and he played it like he's been, you

[31:39] know, practicing for like a, you know, 6

[31:42] months or something. I mean, amazing.

[31:45] So, there's something there, you know,

[31:47] this is not a normal human

[31:50] person, you know, there's something

[31:52] happening.

[31:53] And so, even though we talk about this,

[31:56] can we call this impossible? Uh you

[32:00] know, maybe by the average person uh it

[32:03] is impossible. They will say, "My kid

[32:05] will never do this." Or I could never do

[32:07] this.

[32:08] So, you know, it's now it's we're

[32:10] playing a little bit with semantics like

[32:12] what people would call possible or

[32:14] impossible. But but one thing that we

[32:17] can all agree on

[32:19] is impossible uh could be labeled as

[32:22] impossible is when we have one of the

[32:24] blind folks uh see Well, I mean, they

[32:28] were all able to see. So, originally uh

[32:31] Dalia trained them, you know, with the

[32:33] typical training thing. But then later,

[32:36] you know, we We them a different

[32:38] protocol and then, you know, different

[32:40] techniques. Uh we added certain things,

[32:43] we changed certain things, but anyway,

[32:45] then they we worked with them for like 3

[32:47] 4 months.

[32:49] And uh

[32:51] one of the then we brought them to for

[32:53] more testing because we didn't actual

[32:55] we're doing an actual science study.

[32:58] So, we had to follow very rigorous like

[33:01] protocols.

[33:02] Um you have to repeat the same thing

[33:05] over and over, which is very difficult

[33:06] for them, but that's how we were able to

[33:08] collect data.

[33:10] And one of that just after 4 months, he

[33:14] just blew our mind.

[33:16] He just First of all, he started reading

[33:19] like the computer was like this close to

[33:22] his face.

[33:23] And then by the end, he was just

[33:25] arms length. He was just looking at the

[33:27] computer.

[33:29] And um

[33:30] he could read words uh

[33:33] 25 answers in a row that scientifically

[33:37] statistically is 100% accuracy.

[33:41] That's like that's should be impossible.

[33:46] >> Wow.

[33:47] >> And then and then, you know, he

[33:48] continues. So, we started to trick not

[33:50] trick him, but like we started giving

[33:53] him stuff he had not practiced or seen

[33:55] before. We started covering one eye and

[33:58] like doing all kinds of stuff. And he

[34:01] scored like 94%,

[34:04] which is

[34:05] I mean,

[34:06] mind you, 25%

[34:08] is chance.

[34:10] 25%

[34:12] So, scoring 90% and 100% is insane.

[34:18] That it should be impossible. So, then

[34:21] we took him to I mean, I don't want to

[34:24] spoil that cuz it's in the movie, but

[34:26] still you still have to see it. I mean,

[34:27] you have to see the journey. It's It's

[34:30] Everybody should watch this movie.

[34:31] People were crying, actually. I showed

[34:33] it to a at a private uh private

[34:37] screening.

[34:38] Um then we took him again for the

[34:41] audience to see, the viewers to see what

[34:43] we've done, not only scientifically to

[34:45] measure

[34:46] his brain waves and we did we had other

[34:49] cameras that were detecting

[34:52] photonic activity, like all kinds of

[34:54] stuff.

[34:55] So, even though the data also was

[34:58] showing that he was actually seeing, but

[35:01] then we took him to like the top

[35:03] neuro-ophthalmologist

[35:04] who turned out to be a specialist in his

[35:08] condition. He has a condition called

[35:10] Leber something.

[35:12] >> Okay.

[35:13] >> I mean, the guy's been practicing for 40

[35:16] years and you know, and uh he examines

[35:21] um the kid I mean, not a kid.

[35:24] >> [laughter]

[35:24] [gasps]

[35:25] >> The the young man

[35:27] and uh uh you know, with all their

[35:30] machines. I mean, we're talking

[35:32] Cedars-Sinai, Beverly Hills.

[35:36] All the machines and the equipment and

[35:38] everything else, and then he comes out

[35:40] and I interviewed him. I said, "What's

[35:42] going on?" And he says he can't see.

[35:45] I said,

[35:47] "But

[35:49] are you sure?" He said, "Well, I just

[35:51] his his optic nerve is atrophy. There's

[35:55] nothing there."

[35:56] I said, "Is it possible that he could

[36:00] reactivate his optic nerve?" He's like,

[36:03] "I've been doing this for 40 years. I've

[36:05] had all kinds of thing I've done all

[36:06] kinds of research. Stem cells this, stem

[36:09] cells that, you know, it doesn't

[36:12] happen."

[36:13] Mhm. Plus,

[36:14] he is he's at the worst kind of level of

[36:19] in his condition, like it can't even get

[36:21] any worse.

[36:23] I said, "Well,

[36:25] if if if he were to concentrate or

[36:28] something." Like, I kept asking him. He

[36:29] kept looking at me like, "Stop asking

[36:31] me. I already told you." You know, it

[36:32] was kind of funny.

[36:34] I said, "Well, is it possible if it's

[36:37] not reactivating something, you know,

[36:39] something else?" And And he said, "Look,

[36:43] it's possible that a blind person could

[36:45] have other visual uh non-visual like a

[36:48] sensory thing. Like some people can feel

[36:51] through the skin or

[36:53] uh

[36:53] whatever like different ways.

[36:55] >> Something that can double as vision,

[36:57] right? Like a redundancy

[36:59] in the makeup somehow.

[37:01] >> Or echolocation. Like Sean uses

[37:03] echolocation.

[37:04] >> Daniel Kish.

[37:06] >> Yeah, yeah. Exactly. So So you can have

[37:10] different like also it was shown uh that

[37:14] the ectoderm, you know, our skin

[37:15] actually

[37:17] uh has

[37:18] photonic reflection receptors that can

[37:23] allow you to see.

[37:24] And so

[37:26] um so there's this whole theory, but

[37:28] that's not what Justin the kid was

[37:30] doing. That's not what he was doing.

[37:32] He because his brain did not show that

[37:35] that's what he was doing.

[37:37] And so he was using his visual

[37:42] spectrum, his visual

[37:45] >> cortex

[37:46] >> Yeah, cortex exactly in the normal way.

[37:51] So So and the doctor could not answer

[37:56] any I said, "Well, is it possible like

[37:58] just for a second he could have get a

[38:00] flash?" No. "Is it possible this?" No.

[38:03] "Is it possible the

[38:05] the fibers on the optic nerve could get

[38:08] activated by I don't know?" He's like,

[38:11] "No."

[38:12] Impossible.

[38:13] >> Yeah, and I wonder how much of him just

[38:15] no no no no. Like does he know for a

[38:19] fact it's a no?

[38:21] And and you would imagine this is the

[38:22] guy most highly trained in in his field.

[38:26] So

[38:28] needless to say there's something going

[38:30] on here. And in order like let's say if

[38:34] the average person watching this is

[38:36] like, "This sounds incredible and I

[38:38] don't know if I have time to dedicate my

[38:40] life to it. But man, I would love to see

[38:42] what else I'm capable of."

[38:45] I would imagine

[38:46] that it has at least in part a little

[38:49] bit to do with our thoughts, our

[38:51] framing, what we intend. And so, what do

[38:54] you think is is happening here even

[38:57] outside of like a strictly academic or

[38:59] or scientific explanation? What is your

[39:02] gut sense that's actually happening here

[39:04] with these children, with the blind

[39:06] people gathering information that some

[39:09] of the most highly trained doctors are

[39:11] saying like, "No, that's impossible and

[39:12] no, that's not what's happening." What

[39:14] do you make of that?

[39:16] >> So, I think first of all, there's so

[39:19] there's something very, very important

[39:21] that we have learned through this

[39:23] process.

[39:25] Uh

[39:26] the the different blind people are

[39:29] obviously blind in different ways. Some

[39:31] of them are born blind or whatever. And

[39:33] of course, it's also different from the

[39:35] sighted people who are able to see with

[39:38] the blindfold. Um but so the but the

[39:43] common denominator when they uh get to

[39:45] see is

[39:48] their personality

[39:49] that gives them a will, a strong will,

[39:53] and the intention. They may not be able

[39:57] to articulate that that's what it is,

[39:59] the intention, but it's kind of I mean,

[40:00] you and I work on consciousness, we know

[40:03] that when you focus your will, I want to

[40:05] do this, that's an intention. You know

[40:07] what I mean? So, I feel like uh they're

[40:11] very strong-willed and wanting to do

[40:15] this.

[40:16] So, that is a common denominator that we

[40:19] felt helps everybody

[40:22] uh get over the hump of, "Can I do this?

[40:24] It does this It doesn't make sense." or

[40:26] whatever. Uh and the second strong thing

[40:30] is their belief. They They're so like

[40:33] they believe like they already see

[40:36] themselves

[40:37] having done it in some way without even

[40:40] having done any training of like, you

[40:43] know, visualization, but it's like they

[40:46] just know that they can do this. And

[40:49] that is very, very important. I think if

[40:52] you don't have the intention and the

[40:55] belief, you can have all the training in

[40:57] the world and it just is not going to

[41:00] work.

[41:01] So that's what's really, really

[41:04] happening.

[41:05] Justin, the kid who

[41:08] I told you like we were blown away.

[41:10] Um

[41:12] he's very strong-willed.

[41:15] He's

[41:16] he's he's

[41:18] character like I mean, you know, and

[41:22] um

[41:23] he doesn't like to fail.

[41:26] And he I when I first interviewed him

[41:31] before we

[41:33] started any training.

[41:35] I asked him

[41:37] so he was he was about to do the

[41:39] training for the first time. Like he had

[41:42] never done anything at all and he had

[41:44] been blind for 10 years. So he was still

[41:47] in the

[41:49] um you know, I feel like being blind has

[41:52] helped me. I was on the wrong path. I

[41:54] was drinking. I was treating my

[41:57] girlfriend so badly and I was

[42:00] I had a DUI. I mean, you know, like he's

[42:03] telling me and that's when he became

[42:05] blind actually.

[42:06] And then after that he said that this

[42:10] experience helped him look within and

[42:13] become more like work on himself and

[42:15] work on consciousness and

[42:17] I suggested so it sounds like you are

[42:20] good where you are. Are you is that what

[42:22] you're saying? You know, he's like, "No,

[42:24] I I just I learn." I said,

[42:27] "Tell me, why do you want to do the

[42:29] training?" See, I was trying to get him

[42:31] to tell me

[42:33] about the his intention because he kept

[42:36] saying, "Hey, I'm so great now and you

[42:39] know, accepting the condition as final."

[42:43] And then he said,

[42:45] "I don't know, somebody told me about

[42:47] the training and so I want to try it." I

[42:49] said, "Really? That's it?"

[42:51] And then he said "Um um

[42:55] Well, I kept like pushing him pushing

[42:58] him and then he said

[43:00] Well, I'd like to see my daughter.

[43:03] He had never seen his daughter.

[43:05] >> I yeah, I

[43:07] >> I'll just I said tell me again. Tell me

[43:11] again. Tell me again. So I was on a Zoom

[43:13] call.

[43:15] And he started to almost like tear up,

[43:17] you know, and he said I want to see my

[43:19] daughter. I said tell me again. Tell

[43:21] And that

[43:23] that you know, got him to get past the

[43:27] okay, I'm personal growth everything

[43:29] else is great. But now my intention is

[43:32] to get over this and see, you know.

[43:35] So I I said I want you to hold that

[43:37] intention hold that vision hold that

[43:39] vision. And he started the training 3

[43:42] days later, he was able to see his

[43:44] daughter.

[43:46] >> Uh I have a 10-year-old daughter and I

[43:49] remember seeing that part of the trailer

[43:50] and that that really got me cuz like

[43:54] that's all he needed to say for me to

[43:55] understand. Like I get the gravity of

[43:57] that.

[43:58] And what's wild is I just did a

[44:01] a solo cast where I mentioned Daniel

[44:03] Kish and I I point out the nuance that

[44:08] he then learned a superpower where you

[44:10] can kind of see around corners and see

[44:12] in the dark things that other people who

[44:14] have perfect sight

[44:16] don't do but they can. They just don't

[44:19] have the impetus that pushes them

[44:20] towards it. And part of me wonders

[44:23] you know, I I wonder why people reject

[44:25] information that would actually empower

[44:27] them.

[44:28] And sometimes I I I wonder if it's when

[44:32] you see somebody just like you

[44:35] accomplish something that you forever

[44:38] held as but that's impossible. I can't

[44:40] do that. No one can do that. So when you

[44:42] see it, it's probably easiest if you

[44:46] were to try and resist it. It's probably

[44:48] easiest to be like

[44:50] that's got to be fake or there's

[44:51] probably more to it than that. Explain

[44:53] it away. explain it away, because

[44:56] feeling into the feeling of actually

[44:59] maybe I can do this. That's got to come

[45:02] with it, all this feeling of lost time.

[45:05] I

[45:05] Why didn't I do this earlier when I just

[45:07] lost my eyesight? And

[45:09] And then there's this kind of stasis.

[45:11] You I I think you were saying this as

[45:14] well at the beginning of the the podcast

[45:16] where you were saying like, I wonder if

[45:17] I'm crazy and I wonder if I just

[45:19] imagined it. That's almost like cutting

[45:21] the tallest poppy yourself. Right? Like,

[45:23] oh no, I'm too tall. I'm going to cut

[45:25] myself down so I fit with the herd.

[45:27] And so with that being said, how people

[45:30] talk themselves out of their own

[45:32] greatness,

[45:33] I would love to hear just a little bit

[45:35] of like wisdom and maybe um some

[45:38] guidance for people who

[45:41] there is something in them that wants to

[45:43] step into this, but they feel a lot of

[45:45] resistance to even believing that it's

[45:47] possible.

[45:49] >> Yeah, and and it's it is very difficult

[45:52] because we're bombarded

[45:54] with

[45:56] information that's not even ours,

[45:58] actually, that gets us in a state of

[46:01] well, it is what it is, or somebody has

[46:04] a physical issue. You know, when you're

[46:06] in that hard place, it's very difficult.

[46:09] So, by the way, that's the reason why I

[46:12] made this movie, you know, like, you

[46:14] don't have to be blind and be able to

[46:16] see, but it's it to to show, like, my

[46:19] goodness, like, if that person was able

[46:21] to do this, what is it that I can, you

[46:24] know, I can do to help myself.

[46:27] So, it's just it I I mean, I would say

[46:32] that just believe that no matter where

[46:36] you are on the journey or in the story,

[46:39] that there's always a way out because

[46:44] and a and a place to uh

[46:47] to shift, to change change your your

[46:50] trajectory. It doesn't matter how far

[46:53] you've gone, let's say, on whatever

[46:56] path.

[46:57] Because if you understand the principles

[47:00] of consciousness, you can literally

[47:02] suspend time-space. There's so many

[47:04] different techniques that help you

[47:07] remove a trauma through in one exercise

[47:11] where you literally can shift instantly

[47:15] like that thing never happened to you.

[47:17] Like let's say you broke a leg or you

[47:20] don't have a limb or something tragic.

[47:22] You're not going to grow the limb in 5

[47:24] minutes.

[47:25] But if you delete if you suspend time,

[47:28] if you know how to do this and suspend

[47:31] time and experience

[47:35] um

[47:35] the trajectory where you never lost your

[47:38] leg, for example,

[47:40] your whole perspective changes. You

[47:42] almost don't care. I mean, of course you

[47:44] can

[47:45] but it's almost like, "Okay, whatever."

[47:47] You go back to the zero point, let's

[47:50] say, like this clean slate starting

[47:52] point that's open to all potentiality.

[47:57] So, it's all consciousness. It's all

[48:01] plays with your games, you know, with

[48:03] your own consciousness.

[48:06] So,

[48:07] it's just believing and trusting. And by

[48:11] by seeing these things on the screen,

[48:13] you know, seeing other people, I'm

[48:16] hoping that that's what people are going

[48:18] to feel.

[48:19] >> I think they will. And I want to thank

[48:21] you so much for all this work that

[48:23] you're doing. Um and the way that I see

[48:25] what you were saying there is

[48:28] um at least acknowledging

[48:31] the one of the first things you said,

[48:33] it's not about special DNA or special

[48:36] demographic or anything like that that

[48:39] you can be a part of. As you can see,

[48:41] it's not this wildly complex thing. I

[48:44] mean, I'm sure if you were to break it

[48:46] down scientifically, it could seem

[48:48] complex, but that's not what the

[48:49] children are doing. They're not thinking

[48:51] in these scientific tropes. They there's

[48:54] something simple that they're picking up

[48:56] on. And that's what I I really

[48:58] appreciate about your film is beneath

[49:02] all the complexity you're showing

[49:04] something very simple.

[49:06] We have the ability to be so much more

[49:08] than where we are

[49:10] and much of us

[49:12] culture just has not given us that

[49:16] that impulse that we can be more. There

[49:19] aren't as many examples around us of

[49:22] people who through their will and their

[49:24] belief have radically transformed and

[49:27] now thankfully due to the only

[49:30] century-old craft of filmmaking and

[49:33] obviously it's storytelling is older

[49:36] than that, but you're showing people far

[49:40] and wide not only is this possible,

[49:42] there are people lots of people doing

[49:45] these types of things. Just imagine

[49:49] that that not only could be you, but if

[49:52] you just put a little bit of belief into

[49:54] it that that is you.

[49:56] And so I just want to say thank you

[49:58] because that is the core impulse to me

[50:00] making film as well is for somebody to

[50:04] feel deeper into something that they

[50:06] have been resisting that on the other

[50:08] side of it they're more empowered. And

[50:10] that's what I've seen people who they've

[50:12] lost their vision, they've lost

[50:13] something

[50:15] it's it's not about the leg anymore or

[50:17] the eyes it to them it's about what is

[50:22] possible. What can I become?

[50:25] You know, from this point if I just put

[50:27] my my attention and my mind to it, what

[50:30] can I become? So that that was a long

[50:33] way of wrapping up just to say thank you

[50:35] for talking film with me. Thank you for

[50:37] showing people what is possible and

[50:40] inside of all of us.

[50:42] >> Well, thanks for as well. I'm so

[50:44] grateful for you. I feel like you know,

[50:46] we're brother and sister, you know, like

[50:49] we're soul uh connected through the work

[50:52] that we're doing. So uh so I appreciate

[50:56] So I know like what you go through. You

[50:58] know what I mean? Cuz I go through it as

[51:00] well. So I appreciate you as well. Thank

[51:03] you so much for having me.

[51:04] >> Yeah, absolutely. And please tell

[51:07] everybody where they can find you.

[51:10] >> So, for the consciousness work, they can

[51:12] go to carolinecorey.com.

[51:14] And for all my movies, uh

[51:17] omniummedia.com.

[51:19] >> Beautiful. And you said omnium, could

[51:21] you spell that? Just

[51:23] >> o m n i u m media.com.

[51:29] >> omniummedia.com

[51:31] Beautiful. Carolyn, this has been

[51:34] magnificent. It's great to see you

[51:35] again. It's great to talk film. And

[51:38] again, just thank you for all the work

[51:40] that you're doing in the world.

[51:42] >> Thanks again.

[51:43] >> Ladies and gentlemen at home, just

[51:45] remember this is a great moment to just

[51:48] acknowledge that your life is not stuck.

[51:52] You are not predetermined. Your your

[51:54] path is still ahead of you.

[51:56] And it's the way that you walk upon it

[51:58] with real conviction and belief that you

[52:01] are more. Just believe and remember

[52:04] that. And remember to get your feet on

[52:06] the ground, get plenty of sun, drink

[52:08] plenty of water.

[52:09] And just remember who you are by

[52:11] continually continually looking within.

[52:14] With that being said, my name is Ben

[52:16] Stewart. You can catch me next week on

[52:18] The Pulse.

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Caroline Cory's documentaries explore participants who have trained to perceive their environment without relying on traditional eyesight. Rather than literal 'seeing,' the process involves activating parts of the nervous system that most people never develop, allowing blind and blindfolded participants to navigate space, sense obstacles, and read information. The films suggest this capacity exists in everyone but remains largely dormant.
Cory emphasizes that belief functions as a neurological switch. When someone accepts a limitation as permanent—"I can't do this"—they literally shut down the neural pathways that might allow it. Conversely, when belief shifts, the nervous system can activate previously dormant capacities. The films show participants moving from disbelief to genuine ability simply by changing their internal narrative.
At age five, Cory had a paranormal encounter that sparked lifelong investigation into consciousness. Through college psychology studies and years of meditation practice, she developed methodologies she could teach and document. She turned to film specifically because she wanted to reach mainstream audiences with evidence-based explorations of consciousness that couldn't be dismissed as fringe or purely theoretical.
After 21 days of continuous meditation, Cory reconnected with what she calls her original signature frequency—the same energetic state she'd encountered at age five. She describes this as a fundamental frequency that allows access to 'the intelligence of all that is.' This concept underlies her teaching methodology and her belief that each person has an innate frequency that unlocks latent capabilities.
Cory's documentaries include both blindfolded sighted participants and participants who are actually blind. The blindfolded participants demonstrate that vision-like perception is possible even with the eyes completely covered, while the blind participants' success suggests that blindness itself doesn't prevent the development of non-visual perception. Both groups undergo training to activate these latent capacities.
Cory explains that documentary work is more challenging because there's no script—no actor simply delivering a predetermined line. Instead, filmmakers work with raw reality, sorting through hours of material like a puzzle, reconstructing the true story that exists in that footage. This requires both artistic vision and deep listening to what the material actually reveals.
According to Cory's work, yes—these capacities aren't exceptional or rare but fundamental to human consciousness. The limiting factor isn't biology but belief. Most people never develop these abilities because they've internalized cultural narratives that such things are impossible. The films suggest that releasing the belief in your own limitations is the first step toward accessing them.

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