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[0:00] Ajahn: OK, so since the last talk
last Friday,
[0:06] I've been doing my usual practice of
flying around the place,
[0:11] that's not levitation,
that was in Qantas,
[0:15] because I accepted an invitation to
teach in a conference over in Melbourne,
[0:20] so I was there on Wednesday night
and Thursday.
[0:23] It was a conference on
depression and anxiety,
[0:26] but I'm not going to talk about
those things
[0:28] because I've talked about them many times,
[0:30] and anyone who's interested in
those subjects
[0:33] there's lots of talks about those things.
[0:36] But interestingly, when I was over there
with many health professionals
[0:42] who were working in the area of
depression and anxiety,
[0:45] many of those professionals
came up to me and said
[0:50] how grateful they were of the talks which
are delivered here on a Friday night
[0:54] and how many people
listen to them regularly.
[0:58] So much so they also knew that I
take requests for subjects for talks,
[1:04] so one of the people over in
Melbourne said
[1:07] "There's something you've never talked
about and I want you to talk about it
[1:09] next Friday."
[1:10] So this is a suggestion, which
I got from Melbourne on Thursday night.
[1:14] I don't think I have talked about this.
[1:17] It's a bit of an esoteric subject because
they asked me to talk
[1:20] about the first couple of days
after you die.
[1:24] What happens to you when you die?
[1:28] I'm not sure if you have any plans
for this weekend,
[1:31] but just in case... [laughter]
[1:33] I'm going to tell you what's
going to happen.
[1:37] It's going to be based on a
number of sources;
[1:42] First of all, you've got your
own meditation.
[1:44] I've got very strong meditation.
[1:46] It's not actually memories,
[1:48] it's understanding how the mind works
[1:50] and how it interacts with the body.
[1:52] And that's a great understanding you
get after many many years of meditation.
[1:56] You know exactly what's going to happen
[1:58] because you know the nature of the mind,
the nature of the body.
[2:00] There's a particular type of meditation
which I've been teaching for a
[2:04] long time now, the Jhanas.
[2:05] They're very deep meditations.
[2:07] I've been quite outspoken about
what actually happens.
[2:12] That gives you a very good lot of
information about what happens
[2:16] when you die.
I'm going to mention why afterwards.
[2:18] We've also got what we call the
evidence-based stories,
[2:25] of people who either remember the spaces
between their lives `
[2:29] and there's quite a few people who
can remember those spaces between
[2:33] their previous lives.
[2:34] They either do this spontaneously or they
can have training to remember that time.
[2:41] And the last piece of evidence
[2:43] which is perhaps the most interesting
and the most confirming,
[2:52] is those people who have those experiences
[2:55] of dying either in accidents or
in an operation,
[2:59] floating out of their body,
[3:01] being told it's not their time,
coming back again
[3:04] and it's actually giving you some insight
into what happens when you die.
[3:10] These aren't just Buddhists,
[3:12] these are ordinary people from
many different parts of life,
[3:15] who come back with the same stories.
[3:18] So I'm going to bring all those
threads together
[3:21] in this talk about what's going to happen
to you when you die.
[3:24] It's not something which doesn't relate to
your ordinary daily life,
[3:28] because it highlights that the most
important thing in your life
[3:35] is the attitudes,
[3:36] the way you react to what you have
to experience from time to time.
[3:41] And you find with this practice,
which we teach here,
[3:44] it's amazing just what you can do
with any situation.
[3:47] You can react in this beautiful,
very positive way,
[3:51] yeah positive.
"What do you mean by positive way?"
[3:54] I mean by making peace, being kind,
being gentle with these things.
[3:58] Learning from them, accepting them,
embracing them, not fighting them,
[4:02] not being negative, not being angry,
not being afraid.
[4:05] All these negative emotions, which you
know in your very life, here today,
[4:09] cause incredible amount of problems.
[4:11] They are the ones which
might cause problems to you, once you die.
[4:17] Let's go back to what happens
just before you die,
[4:22] because that will inform
what happens afterwards.
[4:26] Because life is a continuum,
it doesn't sort of suddenly change.
[4:30] When you go to bed at night,
[4:32] you wake up pretty much the
same person in the morning,
[4:35] May be a little bit older,
but pretty much the same,
[4:37] at least recognizable.
[4:39] You don't morph into something different.
[4:42] This is actually what happens
even when you die.
[4:45] There is not a sudden morphing into
something terribly different.
[4:49] People just before they die...
[4:52] I am talking about slow deaths,
of illness, old age,
[4:56] sickness, that type of death.
[4:57] Not the sudden deaths,
[4:59] but it's a general and very slow
turning off of the body,
[5:07] and with that body what we call the
five senses
[5:10] of seeing, hearing, smelling,
tasting and touching.
[5:12] It's as if the body turns off very slowly.
[5:15] I have been very fortunate
in my life as a monk.
[5:18] I get to do some really really
interesting things as a monk.
[5:22] I really admire and recommend
the lifestyle.
[5:26] I do things that you guys will
never get to do.
[5:28] It's really exciting.
[5:30] Like being with people when
they are dying.
[5:32] That's one of my jobs, to see the death
just happening as a process.
[5:38] What they take is a life force,
which is just a body force,
[5:42] just fading away.
[5:44] I remember the first time I saw that.
[5:46] It was quite obvious
there's no point of death.
[5:49] There's no time.
[5:50] You can't actually say that a
person died at 8:09.
[5:54] That's what the clock says over there.
[5:56] It's just a whole process which
happens over many minutes.
[5:59] The death process starts, the doctor said,
"It's now finished,"
[6:02] and it happened somewhere in between.
[6:04] It's not a point, it's a process.
That's very important to understand.
[6:08] This whole life is a process.
[6:10] It's not an event.
[6:12] So when you understand that,
you understand also that
[6:16] if it's a process,
that process can continue on.
[6:18] It doesn't suddenly stop.
[6:20] What does stop is these
five senses disappear.
[6:24] In other words, no seeing, no smelling,
no tasting, no touching,
[6:27] That's actually how we find out
if a person's dead.
[6:32] We poke them, we kick them,
we shout in their ear "You still alive?"
[6:36] See if there's anything happening
in their body.
[6:41] A lot of times, what nurses do,
or doctors do,
[6:44] they open the eyes
and put a light in their eyes
[6:46] to see if there's any physical reaction.
See if there's any response.
[6:50] Can they actually see?
[6:53] Now, one of the things I know from
meditation is,
[6:55] that's also what happens when you
get into some deep meditation.
[6:59] Your five senses disappear.
[7:03] And many of you who've got close to that,
[7:05] you're sitting down meditating,
you can't feel your hands,
[7:08] you can't feel your legs,
OK, your body's disappearing.
[7:10] Great, that's what's supposed to happen.
[7:12] Now in meditation you're not dying.
You can come out afterwards fully alive.
[7:17] But in death, this is almost like a
permanent fading away of the senses.
[7:22] But, at least in meditation you
get a feeling of what it's like.
[7:25] Number one, when your body starts
to disappear in meditation, it feels good.
[7:30] Actually it feels bloody good.
[7:32] I don't mind using expletives,
because that's what it feels like.
[7:36] I don't know about you, but I'm getting
old now. This is my 60th year.
[7:40] You get all sorts of aches and pains.
[7:42] I don't know what it's like to be 65, |70,
75, 80, like some of you guys in here,
[7:46] but it gets worse.
[7:47] I know my body's going to be more achy,
more things wrong with it,
[7:51] and it's just so nice to get rid of the
body, and have a break from it.
[7:55] When your body starts to disappear,
[7:58] you feel this wonderful pleasure
of freedom.
[8:00] You have no aches, no pains.
[8:02] When I was meditating a few minutes ago,
I had no irritation in my throat at all.
[8:07] This has been bugging me
for the last couple of weeks,
[8:10] ever since I came back from Indonesia.
[8:13] I think it's a bit of an allergy,
[8:15] so please please please be kind to me,
and don't give me any medicines.
[8:22] Because, the last week I got
so much medicines,
[8:24] People put on the Internet
that I was sick,
[8:26] God, I got too much medicine.
[8:28] Please don't do that to me.
I've got a whole chemist shop.
[8:31] [laughs] So, leave me alone.
It fixes up by itself.
[8:35] But one of the things I noticed
in meditation a few minutes ago,
[8:39] all the irritation totally vanished.
[8:42] It was wonderful. You're free, and just
didn't have any irritation to worry about.
[8:46] This is what happens when the
body starts to disappear.
[8:49] You feel this beautiful sense
of ease and freedom.
[8:52] And you got no business to do with
seeing things, smelling, tasting.
[8:57] But many of you will know,
in your own meditation,
[9:00] doesn't matter if it's very deep
or it's just shallow yet,
[9:03] you get deep eventually.
Just give it time.
[9:06] The one thing which keeps irritating you,
most of all in meditation,
[9:10] is the sound.
[9:12] Now like one of these kids crying outside
at the beginning,
[9:16] or somebody else making a noise,
or coughing.
[9:18] You know that's why that we use alarm
clocks to wake you up in the morning?
[9:23] Even the Buddha recognized, and this is
one of his teachings,
[9:27] that sound is the last of the
five senses to turn off.
[9:32] So when you're dying, it's the sound
that's the last thing which disappears.
[9:36] That's the way you can actually get
into people's minds,
[9:40] and get them out of meditation.
[9:43] I remember some time ago there was a guy,
[9:45] we'd just finished a retreat
over in North Perth,
[9:46] it was one of my monk disciples, he was
in a deep meditation.
[9:50] We were cleaning up, qe left him there,
[9:52] but then we were cleaning up, and
it was time to go.
[9:55] He was still sitting there.
[9:56] So it was my job to try
to get him out of the meditation.
[9:59] Of course, you don't shake him.
[10:01] He won't feel any shakes.
You just talk in his ear,
[10:04] and get him out that way.
[10:05] Sound is the last of the
fives senses which disappears.
[10:08] Understanding that,
in the process of dying,
[10:12] if a person's in a coma,
if you think they're just about to go,
[10:17] speak to them because
of all those five senses,
[10:20] that is the one which is
most likely they will hear.
[10:23] Forget about shaking them
or touching them.
[10:27] Sound is the last of the senses
to disappear
[10:30] and many of you will know that when
you meditate so this is evidence-based.
[10:35] So they just start to disappear,
the five senses,
[10:38] and when they disappear,
[10:40] there is a great feeling of relief
and ease and peace
[10:43] because the body is irritating.
[10:46] Imagine what it's like when you're
really sick and you're dying.
[10:49] That's really a heavy time.
[10:51] Fortunately, though,
that in our modern medicines
[10:54] we get dosed up usually with Morphine.
[10:57] Many Buddhists have asked me; "Ah that's
terrible I want to be there when I die,
[11:02] this is an important time in my life".
[11:04] I don't want to be in this dull state,
[11:06] but you don't have to worry about that,
take that Morphine
[11:10] because what happens
during the dying process,
[11:15] that the mind, this sixth sense
usually uses your brain,
[11:20] but it doesn't have to use the brain
[11:23] once the brain stops and the brain dies.
[11:27] In other words, your mind does not
need that brain anymore.
[11:31] It can be free from the brain
[11:33] and what actually happens in the
last minutes or two
[11:36] sometimes more, sometimes
less of your life,
[11:39] you get clarity.
[11:43] I was talking about this about
my mother in London,
[11:46] because she's got complete
Alzheimer's Disease.
[11:49] Two years ago, a year and half ago
when I went see her
[11:52] she just cannot recognize me,
she didn't know who I am.
[11:56] I was with her for two years,
sorry for two hours,
[11:59] talking to her, being with her
she didn't know who I was.
[12:03] Although, strangely just out the blue
in two hours with all the talk she said,
[12:08] she mentioned the word monastery.
[12:11] Which was really weird and
my brother picked up on that.
[12:13] It was totally out of context with
everything else she was saying,
[12:16] there was something in there,
[12:18] just obviously knew that there was
something monastic there,
[12:22] with the person that she was with.
[12:25] But for people who have such
bad Alzheimer's Disease,
[12:29] in the last minutes of their lives
they will be clear,
[12:34] they will wake up,
they will remember everything
[12:36] because that's the nature of your mind.
[12:39] It uses the brain for most of your life,
but it does not have to use the brain.
[12:45] And in that last few moments of life
it separates from the brain.
[12:49] I remember first reading about that
when I was a student.
[12:52] I mean by reading widely in literature
[12:56] and I used to read Tolstoy, and he said
one of these stories and it was a
[13:01] fascinating story, because
this was over 100 years ago.
[13:06] There was a story of a person, quite a
wealthy person, in a country house
[13:10] who had this sickness
[13:11] and who was in pain constantly,
moaning and screaming.
[13:18] Literally 24 hours a day,
would not sleep.
[13:21] And it was driving all the people
in the house crazy.
[13:25] Imagine you're in a house and there's
someone moaning and screaming in pain,
[13:30] and there's nothing you can do about it.
[13:32] Being wealthy they tried to get all sorts
of therapy, homeopaths,
[13:36] allopaths, everything, but nothing
could relieve this person's pain.
[13:41] Tolstoy, beautiful writer, was describing
the emotions of the people
[13:45] who had to deal with this for many weeks.
[13:49] But at the end of the story he mentioned
[13:51] that everything suddenly went quiet
in the house,
[13:54] but the man hadn't died yet.
[13:57] For 5 or 10 minutes he was free of pain;
clear, lucid; before he passed away.
[14:07] That's so common
[14:08] and I'm not sure if there are any doctors
or nurses who have witnessed that,
[14:12] I have witnessed that; the last few
moments of a person's life are clear.
[14:16] There's a person who comes here regularly,
[14:18] I'm not sure if they're here tonight.
[14:21] They told me the story of they were
with their father, here in Perth;
[14:25] he was dying
[14:26] and she was with her sister.
[14:28] They were sitting on either side of
the bed holding their father's hand.
[14:31] He was in a coma and hadn't spoken for
many, many hours or a day or two,
[14:37] I'm not sure.
[14:38] They were just waiting for him to die,
[14:40] just waiting for that last breath to go
out and not come in again,
[14:43] holding his hand.
[14:45] And of course, you never know when that
moment is going to happen.
[14:49] I've been there with people and sometimes
you're waiting there for hours.
[14:53] They seem as if their last breath
and you think that's it
[14:55] and suddenly they breathe in again.
[14:58] In this particularly case it was
his last breath, he stopped breathing,
[15:04] but then he opened his eyes.
[15:08] Then he leaned up from his bed
[15:10] and looked around at his
two daughters on either side.
[15:15] They said that without any plan,
they said in perfect synchronicity,
[15:21] "We love you dad."
[15:24] Then he closed his eyes and passed away.
[15:28] But what really took them by surprise
[15:34] was that even though he had been in a
coma for such a long time,
[15:39] even though he was not supposed
to be able to see or feel,
[15:44] for the last minute, he did.
[15:46] He looked at them in the eye and they
could speak to him their last words.
[15:51] There was even a better example which was
in the "TIME" magazine of all things.
[15:57] Article on the mind.
[15:59] This was the most amazing time
when the mind separated from the brain.
[16:05] I think it was; we did have a copy of this
in our monastery
[16:10] I think 2009 or 10 or something
January edition
[16:14] TIME magazine of the mind,
[16:16] But anyway, there's a doctor over in the
United States
[16:18] who was treating a person
with a brain tumor.
[16:22] and it was a very aggressive tumor.
[16:25] He was in hospital waiting for the
end in a coma for many days,
[16:29] because apparently the brain tumor
grows and takes over
[16:32] the other parts of the brain,
until there's nothing left
[16:36] for a person to be able to speak
or higher brain functions disappear.
[16:42] Eventually the last part of the brain is
just used for keeping the body alive,
[16:47] for doing the basic functions of
breathing and keeping the heart going
[16:51] and the other organs going,
[16:52] but soon there's no capacity left
in the brain to do anything.
[16:56] That's when the person dies.
[16:58] The fellow been unconscious for a long
time, the doctor told them
[17:01] what the prognosis was-- you go into
this coma and never come out again.
[17:07] But, this person did come out.
[17:11] He just again opened his eyes,
he bent up,
[17:14] but this fellow talked to his family
for 15 minutes,
[17:18] saying their last goodbyes for 15 minutes,
he was totally clear before he died.
[17:24] The doctor was totally amazed, it couldn't
have happened, but it did because by that
[17:28] time there's nothing left in the
brain to perform such functions.
[17:33] I've I told many of you many years ago,
[17:37] Professor John Lorber,
about the boy with no brain.
[17:40] An honours student in mathematics at
Sheffield University,
[17:44] sorry an honours graduate
[17:46] who had a slightly misshaped skull
[17:50] and the doctor gave him a
brain scan, a CT scan,
[17:55] and there was only one percent cortex
there, everything else was missing.
[17:59] Basically, as Professor Lorber said,
he had no brain to speak of.
[18:04] There's no way that that small amount left
[18:06] could compensate for everything
which was missing.
[18:10] At that time, when I tell that story,
I also want to do research,
[18:14] and I asked people, because his whole
head was filled with cranial fluid.
[18:19] There's no brain there, no grey matter.
[18:22] So I asked people if you can do
an experiment and help me.
[18:24] Can you move your head
from back to forth?
[18:27] See if you can hear any sloshing
inside.
[18:29] That must be you as well. You've got
no brain, it's just cranial fluid.
[18:34] That fellow was an honours student in
mathematics.
[18:37] Brilliant, normal, had a girlfriend.
[18:40] In every which way,
you wouldn't know he had no brain.
[18:44] How can that work?
[18:47] As far as I know, as far as Buddhism
knows, your mind,
[18:52] that ability to cognize, to form thought,
to exercise will,
[18:57] is independent of your body.
[19:01] Especially independent of your brain.
[19:04] And at the last moments of life,
that's what happens.
[19:08] Your mind gets free of this
brain and this body.
[19:11] So it can become clear.
[19:14] That's very well documented
as evidence based.
[19:19] The last moments of your life
you'll be clear.
[19:22] So, I know the last moments of
my mother's life she'll be very clear.
[19:26] Now what do you do
with those last moments?
[19:28] That's the next thing.
[19:29] For those people who have sudden deaths,
[19:32] they experience themselves outside
of their body looking on.
[19:36] That's an evidence based.
That's actually what happens.
[19:40] Because so many people have reported
what they call NDEs,
[19:46] NDEs--Near Death Experiences.
[19:48] Going out of their body, and being.
[19:51] Having the experience of being able to
see, and hear but without a physical body.
[19:59] They do experience, they think they've
got a body. That's what it's like,
[20:02] but they can see their dead corpse on the
table, or under the car,
[20:07] or wherever else they died.
[20:09] And of course many of those people
get revived.
[20:13] They come back again and they tell
the tale that that's what it's like.
[20:17] These aren't just Buddhists, these
are from all cultures of the world.
[20:23] For those of you who want to
check me out,
[20:26] the best site for that is of Professor
Pim Van Lommel, L-O-double-M-E-L.
[20:35] This guy was a Professor of medicine
in Holland.
[20:41] During his work, he had many anecdotes,
as many of you have heard this before,
[20:46] of people saying that they left their
body on the operating table.
[20:50] They could hear and see what
was going on. Was this true or not?
[20:54] One of my favorite stories was of the
very wealthy person in London,
[21:00] who was having a minor operation.
[21:03] Because she was wealthy she has,
I think, a doctor from Harley street.
[21:07] Very expensive but she wanted the best.
[21:09] If you've got money why not get the best?
[21:12] Fortunately, she actually did need it,
because during the operation
[21:16] she died for a few minutes.
[21:20] If ever you get an expensive doctor
you'll probably find
[21:24] he's always very polite to you.
[21:27] But, during the operation
the doctor lost it.
[21:33] This lady was dying and he was panicking.
[21:36] During the operation, apparently, he said,
he shouted out,
[21:40] even though this lady was unconscious,
[21:42] "Don't give up on me now, you bitch."
[laughter]
[21:46] That's what he said.
[21:49] Be careful if you're a doctor or a nurse.
[21:51] Because what happened next was
when he came round after the operation,
[21:56] they saved her life.
[21:58] They found out the problem
and fixed it, so she was fine.
[22:01] But on the first visit of the surgeon
after the operation,
[22:04] he said in his very polite voice,
[22:07] "Madam we came jolly close to
losing you that time."
[22:10] "Yes" she said "I know. But why did you
call me a bitch?"
[22:14] [laughter]
[22:17] Well, you can imagine
what the doctor thought.
[22:20] "You were dead at the time!
How'd you know that?"
[22:22] and then of course she told
she wasn't dead.
[22:25] Well she was dead, but she was conscious.
[22:28] There's many anecdotes like that.
I'm sure you've known anecdotes.
[22:32] Some of you may have
experienced that.
[22:34] When I give a talk like that,
[22:36] there's always two or three people
that come up after and say
[22:38] thank you for talking like that.
I've had that experience.
[22:41] I've been out of my body.
[22:43] This professor, Pim Van Lommel, he wanted
to make this much more than an anecdote.
[22:48] He wanted to find out scientifically
whether this was true or not.
[22:53] His research which was reported in the
2001 December edition of Lancet.
[22:58] His research was over three hospitals.
[23:01] He was a professor looking
after three hospitals in the Netherlands.
[23:06] And his sample group was every person
who came into any of those hospitals
[23:12] under cardiac arrest, I don't know,
for a year or two,
[23:16] and of course those which survived.
[23:19] Everyone who came in with cardiac arrest,
who survived, he gave a questionnaire to.
[23:24] To find out if they'd had any of these
memories
[23:26] of what happened during the time they
were being resuscitated.
[23:30] The time they were "dead".
[23:31] He also recorded what happened
in the ER room,
[23:36] and in the operating theater.
[23:38] Just in case if they did say something
was said,
[23:42] they could find out whether the memory
was accurate or not.
[23:46] He found out, of the survivors,
[23:49] just under 10 percent of those people
who survived,
[23:52] did have one or more of the typical
descriptions of NDEs,
[24:00] NDEs, near death experiences.
[24:02] Floating out of the body,
hearing what was going on, whatever.
[24:06] He could verify that these weren't
imaginary memories.
[24:11] These were real memories.
[24:12] What they said they heard was said.
[24:14] The procedures they described actually
happened. It was accurate recall.
[24:19] But the most fascinating part
of his research
[24:23] was that those 10 percent
or just under 10 percent,
[24:28] were the people whose brain died.
[24:33] That was what was distinguishing
near death experiences,
[24:37] from those which didn't have
near death experiences.
[24:40] The brain stopped working and that
signalled the
[24:44] beginning of the near death experience.
[24:48] The fascinating part of his research would
show that there was actual consciousness,
[24:53] will, and the resulting memory happening
when the brain was totally not working.
[25:04] This is what happens also, when you
get into very, very deep meditation.
[25:10] One of the stories
of one of our members here,
[25:13] he's not here this evening
but it's a great story.
[25:16] I wrote it down in my book
"Mindfulness, Bliss, and Beyond",
[25:19] with the person's permission.
[25:21] This was a person that got into such a
deep meditation at home,
[25:24] I'll tell it very briefly,
[25:26] that his wife was concerned he died.
[25:29] And so called the ambulance and he got
taken to Sir Charles Gairdner Hospital.
[25:32] It was on a weekend.
[25:35] He was just an ordinary person
meditating in his bedroom,
[25:38] but he was meditating for too long.
[25:39] His wife checked him and
could find no signs of life,
[25:42] so she called the ambulance.
[25:43] The ambulance could find no signs of life,
[25:45] so took him to
Charlie Gairdner's hospital,
[25:48] where they put ECG and EEG on him.
Both were flat.
[25:52] The guy had died, at least
so the instruments said.
[25:57] ECG there was no heart beat
for a long time,
[25:59] EEG no brain activity.
The brain was not working.
[26:04] He was in a meditation.
[26:06] I told this story elsewhere
so I won't elaborate on it.
[26:09] After giving him defibrillators and many
electric shocks, nothing worked.
[26:13] Eventually he came out of his meditation.
[26:15] Just decided I've had enough,
now I'll come out, just like you do.
[26:19] And as soon as he came out of meditation,
[26:22] both machines worked perfectly.
[26:23] ECG and EEG started beeping
in the proper way
[26:28] and he felt fine.
[26:29] He wondered what the hell he was doing
in hospital, he was in his bedroom.
[26:34] And, gave him a quick sort of
check over, the doctor,
[26:38] nothing wrong with the guy,
so he actually went home.
[26:42] He walked home.
[26:43] Obviously he didn't live that far away
from Sir Charles Gairdner hospital,
[26:46] in Nedlands. He walked back
home, he was that fit.
[26:49] During that whole time he was perfectly
alert, perfectly conscious,
[26:55] but not of his body or his surroundings.
[26:58] He was deep inside.
[26:59] He was having a wonderful time,
one of the best experiences of his life.
[27:03] I say that anecdote, because,
it's a person who comes here,
[27:06] because that was showing what
was happening
[27:10] when his brain had died in
deep meditation.
[27:12] It was only a temporary.
[27:13] Real death is when it really happens,
and you're gone for a long time.
[27:17] You can actually have evidence,
and experience, of what happens
[27:20] when the brain stops working.
[27:22] Temporarily,
we call it near death experiences.
[27:25] When it happens full on, full time,
that's called 'death'.
[27:30] That gives you some evidence of what
actually happens.
[27:33] The brain stops working.
[27:36] Number one, it's entirely a pleasant
experience for just about everybody.
[27:42] Why? Because this terrible body, the
burden of it, is let go of. You're free.
[27:49] My God, that feels good.
[27:51] There's one, just like in deep mediation.
I don't know how many times I've told you,
[27:55] and I've just being honest with you,
being straight up.
[27:58] I'm not sure if I should say these things,
but I do anyway,
[28:01] because I don't want to sort of
hide anything from you guys.
[28:05] The bliss in meditation is
better than sex.
[28:09] OK. Now I had sex before I became a monk.
[28:12] I've been celibate for the last 40 years,
[28:14] but I got a good memory and
I know meditation. [laughter]
[28:19] My meditation is very good.
It's much better!
[28:23] Now what that mediation is,
is your body disappears. It vanishes.
[28:28] That's what happens when you die.
[28:31] You're totally free of this body.
It's blissful.
[28:34] One of those anecdotes,
[28:35] I like these funny stories which people
tell you, or you read about;
[28:39] There is this one lady who died on the
operating table. She left her body
[28:44] looking at her body over there,
just a mess. So off she went.
[28:48] But apparently, she described it as
meeting some spirit, and the spirit saying
[28:53] "It's not your time." You know,
"You've got to go back."
[28:57] She said, "No way. I'm having too good
a time. I don't want to go back. Sorry."
[29:05] And the spirit said,
"But you have to go back."
[29:07] "I don't care about that, I'm not going."
[29:10] People are pretty independent these days.
[29:12] You don't do what you're told
by your parents,
[29:15] or by the government,
or by God, or anybody.
[29:18] So spirits? Go and get lost.
I'm having a good time.
[29:22] That degree of independence,
she didn't want to go anywhere.
[29:26] Until eventually having this argument,
"that you got to go back, no way."
[29:30] Apparently she described,
[29:31] because obviously she did go back,
that's why she could tell this story,
[29:35] this spirit sort of got hold of her and
threw her back into her body.
[29:40] It had all these aches and pains
and heaviness again,
[29:43] and she was pissed off at that spirit.
I mean, really big time.
[29:47] So when she gave this interview,
[29:49] she said, "Now when I die next time,
of course I will die eventually,
[29:52] I'm going to find that guy.
[29:54] And you know what? I'm going to
do to that guy what he did to me."
[29:57] [laughter]
[29:58] That's how she described it.
[29:59] The fascinating part of that, it's a
funny story, is how pleasant it was.
[30:04] You know, to die.
[30:08] That is actually very helpful
for most people.
[30:13] Everybody who has those experiences, one
of the things; when they come back again
[30:18] they always say,
"Now I'm not afraid of dying,
[30:22] because I know what it's like.
It's pleasant,
[30:25] it's actually quite blissful,
it's freedom, it's peace.
[30:28] You're having a great time."
[30:30] Of course it's really interesting and
important that people know that.
[30:34] Number one, it takes away
the fear of your own death.
[30:37] It takes away a lot of the grief
when someone you love dies.
[30:43] It's OK for a priest to say,
"Oh they're having a good time now."
[30:46] But having some evidence,
"Yes, they are having a good time.
[30:49] I know they're happy."
That makes a lot of difference to people.
[30:54] But not all people are happy after death.
[30:58] You know why? It's because you
may be having a lot of pleasure,
[31:01] or having a good time,
[31:03] but it's the way that we react
to that good time.
[31:05] "I don't deserve this. This is
not good enough." Or whatever it is.
[31:10] This is where just the way we react to
what's happening to us
[31:16] can interfere with this normal beautiful
state of affairs when a person dies.
[31:21] Just like now.
[31:23] You may be having a good time.
A happy time.
[31:27] A peaceful day. A great weekend.
[31:29] How many people think,
"I don't deserve this"
[31:34] and you mess up your happiness.
[31:38] "It can't be right, I'm enjoying myself."
[31:41] That's obviously a great exaggeration of
a very powerful,
[31:47] undercurrent in human nature,
called 'guilt'.
[31:52] Negativity. Fault finding.
[31:58] If you develop that
too much in this life,
[32:02] you're going to develop it, it's going
to be there for you after you die.
[32:06] You have this beautiful opportunity
to have a good time,
[32:10] and you will throw it away.
[32:13] Why?
[32:14] "I don't deserve this. I'm a bad guy.
I've done a bad thing."
[32:17] Or sheer fault finding, negativity,
which will stop you being free.
[32:25] Even right now, I spend a huge amount
of time in these Friday night talks,
[32:29] talking about overcoming guilt.
[32:32] Having a positive view of yourself.
Letting go of the pain of the past.
[32:37] Not being a prisoner of any bad things
you've done.
[32:41] Looking at the two bad bricks
in the wall,
[32:44] in the context of the 998 good bricks
in the wall.
[32:48] Getting that, not positive attitude,
but fair attitude to life.
[32:52] I don't like the word positive
attitudes of life,
[32:55] because that's overdone.
[32:57] Being fair, being reasonable,
being just, with yourself.
[33:02] You're not a bad person. I've never met
a bad person in my whole life.
[33:07] I've met John Howard...
I shouldn't have said that. [laughter]
[33:14] No, he's all right. He's a good guy.
[33:16] I've met some murderers
and rapists in jails.
[33:21] These are OK people.
They've done one or two bad things.
[33:25] But they don't deserve to be hated,
or destroyed.
[33:30] That's what I mean. I've never seen
one person who deserves to be destroyed.
[33:35] There's always some spark of goodness
and kindness and beauty in them,
[33:39] and that's a wonderful thing to realise.
[33:42] See that in yourself, for goodness sake.
[33:45] You deserve to be happy.
[33:47] If you want a quick explanation
of the meaning of life.
[33:53] Everyone wants to know the
meaning of life.
[33:55] It is, you deserve to be happy.
[34:00] That's your meaning of life.
That has huge consequences.
[34:05] Easy to say, but powerful consequences.
[34:09] Which means you can let go of the pain.
[34:12] You can access the happiness,
and the peace, and the joy.
[34:17] So after you've passed away,
[34:19] the most important thing to do is
to have that kindness towards yourself.
[34:25] To make peace with what's happening.
[34:27] A lot of times, fear dominates
people's lives.
[34:31] One of the reasons why I give this talk
tonight...
[34:33] and thank you for the person who
reminded me
[34:36] that I should have given this talk
years ago...
[34:39] is to take away your fear.
[34:42] So you know exactly what's
going to go on.
[34:44] And you realise it does go on,
[34:46] and this is what happens,
you're prepared.
[34:49] A lot of times, fear is
fear of the unknown.
[34:52] When death becomes part of the known,
the fear disappears,
[34:56] which means you can relax and enjoy
the whole process, post death.
[35:02] When it's fear, you know exactly
what's happening,
[35:04] you just let go and enjoy.
[35:06] Obviously, there's many people
[35:07] who have very, very strong attachments
to this world.
[35:12] the people they left behind.
The things they left behind.
[35:16] That's something which again in Buddhism,
[35:18] we say, "Look, you have to let go
of that past.
[35:21] You can't carry such things with you."
[35:24] That's obvious. You know that,
but you have to learn that.
[35:27] Have to train. Have to practice,
to let go of things.
[35:31] When you let go of your attachments, it
doesn't mean you don't enjoy life.
[35:36] You enjoy the people you're with.
[35:38] You enjoy the day. By the end
of the day you had a great day.
[35:41] Now, you can go to bed and let it go.
[35:44] Another day coming tomorrow.
[35:47] The great simile of the concert,
[35:49] which is a beautiful simile which
I got from my father's death.
[35:53] Yeah, I only knew my father for 16 years.
[35:56] I was not sad about his death.
[35:58] I don't regret that he only lived
16 years,
[36:02] because it was a wonderful 16 years
with the guy.
[36:05] Just how lucky I was. The great concert.
All concerts end.
[36:12] How many people have been to a concert,
[36:15] and have burst out crying in grief
afterwards?
[36:18] "Oh, Justin Bieber has gone. He will
never come back to Western Australia."
[36:24] Of course not.
[36:24] There's another concert coming
back next week.
[36:27] Somebody even more beautiful
or whatever.
[36:30] These people come and go.
[36:34] The nice thing about it is
that's just life.
[36:37] Life is a series of concerts.
[36:40] These happy moments we have.
These joyful times we have.
[36:43] We know they must end.
[36:47] It doesn't mean that we don't
enjoy the times we have together
[36:51] because, "It's going to end!
It's going to end!"
[36:54] No, we don't allow that to spoil our day.
[36:56] We enjoy it to the max.
[36:58] When it ends, we feel so grateful.
[37:02] What a wonderful time we've had.
[37:03] Thank you so much, and we move on
to the next concert.
[37:08] To the next day.
We move on to the next life.
[37:13] If you can train yourself like that,
it's just like, even in your meditation.
[37:17] Totally let go of the past. Free of it,
[37:19] so you can enjoy the moment, and allow
the future to evolve, wherever it goes.
[37:26] The same training you use for peaceful,
happy, successful meditations,
[37:30] right here, in this room,
every Friday or Saturday.
[37:33] The same things as what you do
when you die.
[37:37] Let go of the past.
[37:39] Don't be afraid of the future.
[37:42] Present moment and making peace.
Being kind, being gentle,
[37:45] right in this very moment.
Please remember that.
[37:49] The other similes which I've used before,
which are mostly interesting.
[37:52] The people in the
Anxiety and Depression Conference.
[37:56] They all took that down as a great,
little meditation exercise,
[37:59] because they hadn't heard it before.
The two heavy suitcases simile.
[38:03] Imagine yourself, in meditation, carrying
two heavy suitcases.
[38:06] The one in the left hand is the past, and
the one in the right hand is the future.
[38:10] How heavy it is,
to carry those suitcases?
[38:13] You imagine yourself putting
down the first suitcase,
[38:16] then the second suitcase,
and you're free of all the burden.
[38:20] You're in the present moment between the
two suitcases, the past and future.
[38:24] That's what you do when you die.
[38:26] You let go of your past.
You've had a whole life behind you.
[38:32] In that whole life you have many
beautiful experiences,
[38:35] some unpleasant experiences.
[38:36] Remember you have to have both. The
unpleasant ones is where you learn,
[38:41] and the pleasant experiences are
like the holidays.
[38:44] It's the hard moments is like your work.
[38:47] That's where you work. How you learn.
You test yourself. You move forward.
[38:51] You learn from those
unpleasant experiences.
[38:53] We always call them growing pains.
[38:55] The pleasant experiences
that's when you get your paycheck.
[38:58] You're having your holiday.
Having a good time.
[39:01] That's part of life.
[39:02] But when we die, we let go of the whole
lot. We don't carry anything with us.
[39:09] Everybody says, you can't take it with
you, but you try to. That's the problem.
[39:14] So when you've trained yourself
to let go of the past.
[39:17] Right now, in this very life.
[39:19] If you can let go of the past,
only then can you enjoy the moment.
[39:23] It's amazing how much people have stopped
themselves enjoying life,
[39:29] because of something which someone
said to you, or did to you,
[39:32] or what you did or said, in the past.
[39:35] Why on earth do you do that?
[39:38] It's total loopy stuff,
as far as I'm concerned.
[39:42] You're crazy.
[39:44] So whatever someone said to you.
Whatever they did to you.
[39:47] Whatever you said or did.
[39:50] Why allow that to control your
happiness in this moment?
[39:56] I said that to these psychologists,
"You don't have to do that."
[40:00] And realizing that is one of the most
powerful teachings of Buddhism,
[40:04] "You don't have to carry the past
into the present.
[40:09] You can let it go. It's allowed.
It's possible,
[40:14] and it's of great benefit to do that."
[40:19] You can be free.
[40:20] No one is torturing you,
because of what you did,
[40:25] or what someone else did to you.
[40:27] No one is torturing you, only you are.
[40:30] You have to let it go.
[40:33] A good example of that,
[40:35] is like a story which I saw engraved
in stone in Borobudur,
[40:40] this great monument, in Java.
Which I hope you've been to.
[40:43] It's a very beautiful monument. Ancient
Buddhist monument in the middle of Java.
[40:48] I was very fortunate because one of
my mates over there,
[40:51] the monk Sri Panyawara, a beautiful monk.
[40:54] I tried to get him over here many times,
but he's not that well,
[40:57] and so he can't come.
[40:59] He gave me the VIP tour of Borobudur.
His monastery's really close by.
[41:06] So I got this VIP tour by this
very great monk around the temple.
[41:11] Pointing out all of the carvings.
[41:14] It's designed like the world system,
and the bottom is like the hell realm.
[41:19] I don't know why, that's what I was
interested in.
[41:22] People always like horror movies
and dramas where things go wrong.
[41:26] But anyway, one of the carvings in the
bottom there took my attention.
[41:31] Because I could see,"Now this is actually
how this death process works."
[41:38] There was an old Buddhist story
[41:42] of a guy who had...pretty good guy,
but he did one bad act.
[41:46] He pushed over his mother, and she
injured herself.
[41:50] Of course, he felt so guilty about that,
[41:53] that when he died he got born
in this hell realm.
[41:57] He went down to meet this guy,
in this terrible realm,
[42:01] and he saw this fellow having his
head cut with a razor wheel.
[42:06] Just cutting into his head continuously.
Now obviously without him dying.
[42:11] He's in great pain, but this guy said,
[42:15] "At last you've come.
[42:16] Because, when I got this wheel,
and it was 600 years ago,
[42:20] because I hurt my mother.
[42:22] I was told that in 600 years' time,
another guy will come
[42:27] because he also hurt his mum.
[42:30] When he comes, the wheel will leave my
head, and I'll be free of this torture,
[42:35] and it will go into this other guy's head.
Here you are, here's the wheel."
[42:40] The wheel left this other guy, and the guy
vanished from this torture,
[42:44] and it went into this new guy's head.
It was cutting his head; incredible agony.
[42:51] But this fellow, this new guy
[42:52] he had thoughts of kindness,
of compassion,
[42:58] and he said,
[43:00] "I'm going to take this wheel,
not for 600 years, but for 3,000 years
[43:06] so the next four
or five guys don't have to bear this.
[43:09] I'll take the punishment for them."
[43:13] For that kind thought, the wheel shattered
[43:17] and he was taken away from this
hell realm,
[43:19] and reborn in a heaven realm.
[43:21] Just one thought of kindness
and compassion did that.
[43:25] That was not a myth,
[43:27] that's a metaphor of what happens,
whatever you have to experience,
[43:34] in fact what you do experience,
[43:36] it's your attitude creates
that experience.
[43:41] Your attitude is the creator,
the generator.
[43:46] So, when you die, please don't have any
thoughts of negativity.
[43:52] Because at that particular time,
you are creating your world.
[43:57] Yes, there are heaven realms,
and there are hell realms.
[44:01] But you create them and you
make the one you think you deserve.
[44:07] If you're a negative person, and if you
think of all the bad things you've done,
[44:11] and have guilt,
and haven't let that go yet,
[44:15] at the end of your death
you remember that,
[44:18] and you'll think you are a bad person, and
you will think you need to be punished.
[44:24] You'll design the punishment to suit you.
[44:26] Now, remember these states
when you are dead,
[44:29] it's the physical body has gone.
You're in a mind-made body.
[44:32] Mind-made realm. These
are created by your mental world.
[44:36] I know how powerful that is,
your mental world.
[44:40] Because you create it,
you can do all sorts of things with it.
[44:44] One of the stories. Just to show you what
can be done.
[44:48] Many, many years ago, when I started
meditating,
[44:50] I was getting into a deep state.
My body had gone.
[44:53] And I saw this monster in front of me,
[44:56] like a demon, with big eyes, red eyes.
[45:00] Big fangs in his mouth, dripping blood.
Fresh, red blood.
[45:05] A necklace of skulls.
[45:08] This really spiky head (ugh!)
with the tongue hanging out ugh!
[45:14] Right in front of me, in my meditation.
[45:16] Now, would you guys be scared?
A lot of times people are scared,
[45:20] because they don't know what to do.
[45:23] I was wise enough, even by this
time, to know how I create the world.
[45:29] Because I knew that I was the creator,
and because of my character,
[45:34] the first thing I did was put a couple of
sunnies over this guy's eyes.
[45:39] I just needed to think that,
[45:41] and this guy had a pair of
Ray Bans over his big, googly eyes.
[45:47] I blacked out a few of his fangs, like
you used to do as a school kid, doodling.
[45:52] And I put a cigarette out of his mouth to
make him look like some delinquent monster.
[45:58] Then the last thing I did,
[45:59] I put a straw hat over his head,
with a little flower coming out it.
[46:04] I created that monster into something
which was totally ridiculous.
[46:09] At which I laughed inside,
[46:12] and the monster went
and never came back again.
[46:14] Because I created that thing,
[46:16] and I could un-create it with a positive,
fun, compassionate mind.
[46:22] That happened to this one guy in our
monastery, years ago, who came to see me.
[46:27] He was staying for a few months,
or a few weeks.
[46:30] He was seeing in every of the
paving bricks,
[46:33] he'd see a monster come out at him.
He thought he was going crazy.
[46:37] I told him that technique.
[46:39] One day later, he said,
[46:40] "I had a wonderful day. Amazing how you
could create these funny pictures
[46:44] out of these monsters.
[46:45] Of course, it just disappeared
after that."
[46:48] Now, this is the power of the
creative mind in meditation,
[46:51] especially, when you get into
deep meditations,
[46:54] or when you die, which is pretty similar.
[46:56] When the body disappears,
you haven't got so many restrictions,
[47:00] caused by solid stuff on
what your mind creates.
[47:03] Remembering that, when you die,
[47:08] please learn how to create
this very positive and beautiful things.
[47:12] Of course, you're going to
be creating your next realm.
[47:17] You create it.
[47:19] By developing a beautiful, positive, kind,
loving mind,
[47:23] that's what you're going to be
creating for your future.
[47:27] You have that opportunity.
[47:30] I know in some systems that sometimes
the monks go round and chant,
[47:34] or whatever else happens,
[47:35] just to try and create that positive mood
for the person who's just dead.
[47:42] Sometimes you can't hear that.
You can't see that,
[47:45] but at the very least,
create it for yourself.
[47:49] Yeah, you will get reborn somewhere.
It's up to you.
[47:52] You'll get reborn where you think
you deserve to be reborn.
[47:56] You create these worlds.
[47:58] The same way that I remember when
I was a young kid over in London.
[48:03] I used to go out sometimes for a drink
with my mates to a pub.
[48:07] But some people used to go to these
pubs in London,
[48:10] and there would always be a fight.
[48:13] I saw it a couple of times. A couple of
people would get drunk,
[48:16] and they'd have a big punch-up outside,
and blood everywhere.
[48:20] And I thought,
"Why do people go to pubs like that?"
[48:23] The reason is, because they like fighting.
[48:27] They're looking for that.
[48:29] And I thought, "Why do people create
these circumstances,
[48:31] where they get into this violence.
[48:34] They get into this negativity.
They get into this pain?"
[48:38] Because that's what people want.
[48:42] So I ask you, "What do you want? What do
you really want?
[48:45] Not what you think you want, but what
you really want deep inside?"
[48:48] Please cultivate the mind.
[48:50] Have a beautiful mind.
A compassionate mind. A forgiving mind.
[48:53] That's the world you'll create.
You created it in this life.
[49:00] I don't know if some of you have difficult
relationships? Don't blame your partner.
[49:05] It's nothing to do with...
well it is to do with your partner,
[49:08] but it's also to do with you. As I say
every other week here,
[49:11] it's not his fault. It's not her fault.
It's not my fault.
[49:14] Our fault?
[49:15] You're involved in that.
[49:18] Don't just pass the buck to the other.
You're involved.
[49:21] Don't just blame yourself.
[49:23] It's us.
[49:24] Because, it's all about us, there's always
things you can do.
[49:28] You can create a beautiful world for
yourself, even in this life.
[49:33] But this life is much tougher,
[49:35] because you've got so many solid
restrictions, so many barriers.
[49:39] It's tough to create a good world
in this life,
[49:42] but you can still do pretty well.
[49:44] Imagine when you're free, when you die,
you've got much more opportunities.
[49:49] So don't create a hell realm
for yourself when you die.
[49:53] How do you overcome that?
Forgiveness. No guilt.
[49:57] Don't blame yourself.
Don't blame anybody else.
[50:00] Sometimes when someone
does something wrong,
[50:04] "I don't know why they did that?
But I'm not going to blame them.
[50:08] I don't understand it.
[50:09] I don't understand why they did that,
[50:11] but they obviously thought
they were doing the right thing."
[50:15] There's a great emphasis on forgiveness of
other people in Buddhism.
[50:21] A great emphasis on forgiveness
of yourself.
[50:24] That's so paramount when you die.
Please forgive.
[50:28] That's why in many of the funeral
ceremonies which we do,
[50:32] we do a forgiveness ceremony.
[50:34] With the people left behind,
and the deceased.
[50:37] I speak for the person who's died.
Say on their behalf, "I ask forgiveness.
[50:43] Anything which this person who's
just died may have done to any of you,
[50:47] by body, speech or mind.
[50:49] Intentional or unintentional.
[50:52] Sometimes by accident.
We really say sorry.
[50:56] On behalf of the person who's died.
[50:58] Please forgive them. Let it go."
[51:01] So there can be no pain. No guilt.
[51:05] No idea of "justice", which is usually
just ideas of revenge,
[51:10] past this point of death.
[51:12] So you can be free.
[51:14] Doing that is very helpful.
[51:16] Obviously, it's also help for the
people left behind,
[51:18] to let go of the pain of the past.
[51:21] It's a beautiful feeling,
because then you don't
[51:23] have to be suffering from
all this terrible stuff of the past.
[51:28] We do make mistakes and I said
I think last week,
[51:31] remember the simile of
an examination?
[51:34] I used to set tests.
If everybody got 10 out of 10
[51:37] or if everybody got nought
or 1 out of 10
[51:40] in my math tests I gave
when I was a school teacher,
[51:43] that would be a terrible test.
[51:45] The idea of a test at school is to get
about six, seven, eight out of 10
[51:50] because, as a teacher,
I wanted to encourage my students
[51:54] but I also wanted to find out
what their weaknesses were.
[51:57] When they made a couple of mistakes,
"Ah, I could see where you're weak.
[52:01] I'll have to put some more emphasis
on my next lesson."
[52:04] The test was giving encouragement,
but also giving feedback so I could see
[52:09] where their weaknesses are.
[52:10] That's called life.
[52:13] We encourage so you have
enough success in life OK.
[52:16] You're encouraged. You're motivated.
[52:18] But when life does go wrong, when you do
make a mistake, great.
[52:22] Now that's pointing out some of your
weaknesses.
[52:25] That's where you can work
and get stronger,
[52:28] where you can learn more about yourself
and about life.
[52:32] But obviously if the test of life means
you're always suffering,
[52:35] you're always having a hard time
[52:37] everything's always going wrong,
that's a bad test.
[52:41] So that 6 or 7, 8 out of 10 should be
about the optimum test in life,
[52:46] and most human beings are like that.
[52:47] Yeah. You have your fun. You're having a
great time, but every now and again,
[52:51] 20 percent of the time, you have
some pain, suffering, or disappointment.
[52:54] Well done! That's testing you.
[52:56] Please welcome that.
Don't think it's wrong.
[52:59] That way we can learn. We can grow,
and at the end of life
[53:04] Look. School's out. It's over.
No more tests. Well done!
[53:10] Enjoy yourself. Schoolies weak.
daddies week, whatever you call it.
[53:16] Corpse's is weak. Have a great time.
Enjoy yourself.
[53:19] You've done a lot of hard work.
Well done,
[53:21] you've learned.
Maybe you haven't graduated yet.
[53:24] You have to go back next year,
but you've done well.
[53:27] So that positive attitude
towards yourself,
[53:29] the wise attitude to the mistakes and the
pain of life means you don't get angry,
[53:35] you don't get negative.
[53:36] Which mean at the time of your death
those attitudes are just not there.
[53:41] That stream of consciousness which
continues on,
[53:44] you know what that will feel like
if you've done some meditation.
[53:47] That would mean that post-death period
is a beautiful period.
[53:52] You can create a heaven realm
for yourself.
[53:54] If you want to come back, you can
come back here and try again,
[53:57] learn some more,
get some more understanding.
[54:00] Move your development further along,
because you know just one life is
[54:06] not enough to really train yourself,
to really love, to forgive, to know.
[54:10] But you've all done very well.
[54:12] You have enough smarts,
enough good karma
[54:15] to come and listen to talks like this.
[54:18] You're already pretty far on the path.
[54:22] Take that further, and understand then
that time after the death
[54:27] would be very peaceful, very beautiful.
[54:30] That natural, beautiful feeling of
happiness and peace will not be destroyed
[54:34] by any negativity.
[54:35] You can actually go with it, flow with it.
[54:38] I know many people start saying
[54:39] they see this person, they see Jesus,
they see God, they see whatever,
[54:43] but remember these are mind-made realms.
[54:47] You're not seeing any sort of
spiritual being.
[54:50] The person you are seeing is a
reflection of yourself,
[54:54] what you expect to see.
[54:57] I know that from the meditations.
[54:59] Every time I start talking about that
beautiful light - we call it 'nimitta'
[55:03] in Buddhist mediation;
[55:05] it took a long time to realize
that's a reflection of my own mind.
[55:09] I learned that because, sometimes,
my nimitta was a bit dull and dirty.
[55:14] The sooner I realized I hadn't
behaved that day,
[55:16] I had done something wrong,
that's why it wasn't so pure.
[55:19] But other days, it was, brilliant, and
pure, and wonderful, and delightful
[55:23] because I had done a lot of good work
that day.
[55:26] I realized I was looking at my mind.
[55:30] This purity, that's what
you see when you die.
[55:34] Don't worry. You're pretty good.
You're more than good enough.
[55:38] That's why it looks very beautiful.
It's the reflection of you.
[55:41] If you see some light or a spirit, don't
think that someone else is judging you.
[55:46] No one else judges you. Only you do.
[55:50] You all know that. At least you should do.
[55:54] No one has the right to judge you.
Only you do.
[55:57] The most wonderful thing is to
not judge yourself at all.
[56:01] That's why I think last
week I was staying in Indonesia
[56:04] when a Christian came up and said,
"What about judgment day?",
[56:07] I said "Buddhists don't have judgment day.
They have forgiveness day."
[56:12] It's beautiful. Forgiveness, that's love.
[56:15] Judgment is pain, harshness,
violence, aggression--judging.
[56:21] Forgiveness, "Oh, it doesn't matter.
You are OK.
[56:23] You're more than good enough."
[56:25] That type of judgment,
not judgment at all but forgiveness,
[56:29] that if you've been training yourself
spiritually.
[56:33] When you die and you see that beautiful
light and it's not fearful anymore,
[56:38] it's beautiful, loving, accepting,
forgiving.
[56:41] So then you can actually merge with that.
[56:44] You never think about it as some
sort of God judging you.
[56:47] Anybody sees the light. Doesn't matter
if there is a Jesus or a God,
[56:51] or a Kuan Yin or whatever they see.
[56:53] It's not these things remember,
this is what you add on to
[56:56] when you come back afterwards.
[56:58] This is just you. So don't judge yourself.
[57:03] Many people say that's a symbol of love.
What is a symbol of love?
[57:07] Forgiveness, accepting, embracing.
[57:10] You come to peace with yourself.
[57:14] Isn't that wonderful to come to peace
with yourself before you die?
[57:18] To realise, yeah, you're OK.
[57:22] There's nothing wrong with you.
[57:24] That is such a wonderful insight
to have years ago,
[57:28] At last to realise,
no matter what other people say,
[57:31] there's nothing wrong with me.
[57:33] Oh, what a relief.
[57:35] I'm now going to disprove that.
I'm going over time,
[57:38] I should finish off and I haven't told
today's joke yet.
[57:41] I'm now going to disprove myself
to show there's something terribly
[57:45] wrong with me, I tell
terrible jokes.
[57:48] But this is apt.
[57:50] It was told me last week and a couple of
people know this,
[57:53] and it fits in here because it's not
just human beings who get reborn,
[57:57] but other animals also get reborn.
[58:00] I don't know if you know that even
penguins, they have this beautiful sense
[58:04] of social cohesion.
[58:06] They have their own ceremonies
when one of their members dies.
[58:10] Apparently what happened is this penguin
died, and as soon as it died
[58:16] all its friends came around it to grieve.
[58:19] Then after grieving for a little while
they actually dug a hole
[58:26] in the snow and the ice and they put
the dead penguin in the snow and the ice.
[58:30] They covered him over with the
freezing ice.
[58:33] Afterwards they did a little ceremony
for the dead penguin, their friend.
[58:38] They sang a song."Freeze a jolly good
fellow, freeze a jolly good...."
[58:44] [laughter]
[58:46] That's one of the worst jokes
I've ever said in my life.
[58:50] [laughs] ,
[58:55] Nevertheless it shows my attitude, having
fun with whatever I have to do in life.
[59:00] Please keep that attitude
[59:02] and you know that's how you
deal with the end of your life.
[59:05] Then you get a beautiful rebirth
[59:07] or even no rebirth at all
if you can totally let go.
[59:10] But if I keep carrying on, because I've
gone over three minutes past nine,
[59:14] you'll all die before I finish this talk
so it's a waste of time.
[59:18] I'm giving you some information about
the attitudes towards death,
[59:22] which also reflect your attitudes
towards life.
[59:24] No guilt, please forgiveness,
you deserve to be happy. Just go with it.
[59:29] Mistakes in life, things which go
wrong, it's part of the exam
[59:33] It's the meaning of life.
Learning.
[59:35] Get 10 out of 10 every day there's
no meaning to life at all,
[59:38] you're not learning anything.
[59:40] So when it gets hard, when it's hurting,
growing pains, learn from it.
[59:44] You're becoming a better person.
[59:46] Tough, hard, but my
goodness it is actually good for you.
[59:52] Thank you for listening to the talk
this evening
[59:54] about what happens after you die.
[applause]
[1:00:03] Thank you, are there any questions
about this evening's talk, or comments?
[1:00:09] Yes, go on.
[1:00:12] Question being asked is not audible
[1:01:05] Ajahn: Please make it quick because
people are already leaving. [laughter]
[1:01:13] Question being asked is not audible
[1:01:33] Ajahn: Exactly! The pain disturbs
the consciousness,
[1:01:37] the morphine disturbs the consciousness
but go for the morphine,
[1:01:41] go for the pain killers, because that's
only up to the time when real death starts.
[1:01:45] Once real death starts, once you leave
the brain you're absolutely clear.
[1:01:52] Don't be afraid of that.
[1:01:54] Even if you're like "I want to
be there when I die." You will be!
[1:01:57] It just takes away the irritation
and the disturbance of the pain.
[1:02:02] You've all heard me teach meditation for
many years.
[1:02:04] How gentle I am when I teach
you meditation.
[1:02:07] Don't keep sitting if it's painful -
just move
[1:02:10] because pain is disturbance for
developing the beauty of the mind.
[1:02:15] The same when you are dying.
[1:02:17] Take the Morphine.
[1:02:18] Get into as comfortable position
as you can physically,
[1:02:22] so you can forget about the body.
[1:02:24] Yeah, you will be dull for many many
sort of hours before you're dead,
[1:02:29] the actual death happens.
[1:02:30] Once the death happens,
the brain turns off,
[1:02:33] just like Professor Pim Van Lommel
noticed. Then you're free.
[1:02:36] That's when you can start really
practicing,
[1:02:38] remembering all you've
been taught.
[1:02:40] Practicing peace, kindness,
love, forgiveness,
[1:02:43] because then you can do that.
[1:02:44] If you got pain, I agree that pain
takes precedence.
[1:02:48] You can't even think about any Dhamma,
[1:02:50] you're just dealing with the agony
and the demands of the pain,
[1:02:55] which takes precedence over everything
else. It shouts the loudest.
[1:02:59] Absolutely true.
[1:03:03] Great! Any other comments or
questions before you die? [laughter]
[1:03:07] Ajahn: Yes?
[1:03:12] Question being asked not audible
[1:03:16] Ajahn: Life after life, yeah.
[1:03:18] Yeah, there's many, many books like that.
[1:03:21] Because the evidence is there.
Lots of people have researched,
[1:03:25] lots of honest people have said
what it's like.
[1:03:28] Get out there and see the evidence,
because it could happen to you.
[1:03:32] So read those books before
it's too late! [laughter]
[1:03:36] Who knows what's going to happen next?
Anyway...