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Embrace Change: The Power of 12New Things in One Year

Oprah Winfrey
Oprah Winfrey
Sep 24, 2026
8 Min. Lesezeit
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Deep disappointment can crack open a life. For entrepreneur and author Shonda Scott, a closed door—the kind that shuts on a dream opportunity you've spent years building toward—became the hinge on which a transformative year would turn. Scott had already been experimenting with the idea of trying something new each month as a social media challenge, a playful way to push past comfort zones. But when the dream collapsed, she found herself in a place of real hurt. "I was in a place of deep disappointment when I wrote the book," she explained. The difference between depression and disappointment, she'd later recognize, came down to having the right tools. For Scott, that tool was writing.

What began as a personal healing practice—documenting a year of intentional new experiences—became the foundation for Give Me a Year: 12 New Things to Embrace Change and Live Your Best Life. The book is not a manual for overcoming catastrophe or achieving greatness through sheer will. Instead, it maps something quieter and more durable: how small, deliberate acts of trying can rewire the way you move through the world, even when that world feels uncertain or you feel stuck in it.

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Why Disappointment Sometimes Comes as a Gift

Scott's genesis story matters because it cuts against the myth of the inspirational pivot. She wasn't running from failure into a spa day or a vision board. She had done everything right—set the intention, aligned the pieces, prayed. Then nothing. "It was my dream opportunity," she reflected. "I thought I wanted all my life and I put everything in place to do it and then everything had come to do the opportunity and I probably prayed God be your will or something better for me and literally the door shut and I wasn't ready for that."

What happened next is the real story. Rather than repackage the disappointment as a blessing in disguise, Scott sat with it. She talked it through with a friend. And her friend offered wisdom that proved foundational: "Years later you will know." That patience—the willingness to not yet understand why something happened—opened Scott to a new question: What if the point wasn't to recover from the disappointment, but to move forward within it? "As I'm writing the book God tells me me sharing these stories are not only just going to heal me they're going to heal other people," Scott said. The book became not a redemption arc but a bridge—from hurt to helping, from isolation to connection.

Transformation Doesn't Require Grand Gestures

The genius of the 12-month, one-new-thing-per-month structure lies in its accessibility. Scott could have prescribed a year of dramatic reinvention—sell the house, change careers, run a marathon. Instead, she discovered something her readers needed to hear: "Transformation doesn't matter if you do something big or do something small. It's just the openness that you need to have." That openness is the real practice. It's the permission you give yourself to be a beginner, repeatedly, at things that may not matter in the grand scheme but matter immensely in how they change the texture of a single day, a single month, a single year.

The intentionality of the rhythm—once a month, every month, for twelve consecutive months—created a structure that allowed joy to be pursued even during turbulence. "It gave me the intentionality to continue to pursue my dreams, to find joy even in the midst of turmoil, even in the midst of unhappiness, even in the midst of all that's going on in the world," Scott explained. "I could create joy by doing something new and different each month." This is not toxic positivity. This is the practice of agency in the midst of circumstances you cannot control.

The Power of Writing It Down

Scott learned early the incantatory power of the written word. Each chapter of Give Me a Year includes practical exercises, and the first among them is deceptively simple: write down your dreams. What you want to do. The changes you want to see. The places you've put off visiting. "Write it down and make it plain on tablets," Scott referenced the biblical instruction, explaining how writing transforms an amorphous wish into a plan. "If it's not in writing, is not a deal. It's not a contract. So, it's a contract with yourself. But it also gives you the tools to come up with the plan on how you want to approach your dreams."

The five-year timeline matters too. What you imagine doing in five months differs from what you can dream for five years. Five years grants permission to dream large. "If you dream big, the things you can manifest can blow your mind," Scott said, echoing a principle she'd witnessed repeatedly: the dreams we articulate tend to become the lives we build.

Fear and the Imposter Inside

Part of what new experiences reveal is the fear you've been carrying. Scott spoke candidly about the imposter syndrome that can whisper even to accomplished people that they don't belong at the table. "If you're supposed to be a woman of faith and you aren't one, pull one up. Or better yet," she suggested, "find the women in your life who are a source of strength, who believe in you, who show up for you, and the voices that you bring to the table." The idea wasn't to fake faith or borrow someone else's certainty, but to surround yourself with people whose presence reminds you of your own legitimacy.

This matters because the voices that talk you out of trying new things often aren't external. They're internalized criticisms, old stories about who gets to show up, who belongs in certain rooms. Scott's practice of trying something new, month after month, wasn't just about conquering fear. It was about building a library of evidence that the fear was negotiable. Each small attempt was a data point: I survived this. I learned something. I'm still standing.

Putting Yourself at the Top of Your List

A recurring theme in Scott's teaching is the radical act of self-prioritization. Many women, Scott noted, have internalized the message that taking care of yourself is selfish. When she asked women whether they put themselves at the top of their priority list, the response was telling: "Women were like, 'Boo boo, we're not doing that.'" Yet Scott found that when she chose to prioritize her own growth, joy, and rest, she became more capable of showing up for others. "We're letting ourselves know we're whole before we look out for others."

This isn't indulgence. It's maintenance. It's the oxygen-mask principle applied to the entire architecture of a life. When Scott chose to do something new each month—to pursue joy, to learn, to stretch—she wasn't withdrawing from the world. She was building the kind of resilience that allows authentic generosity.

Small Changes, Compound Effects

One of the quiet revelations of Scott's year was how small changes ripple outward. A dinner for twelve intentional guests became a gathering place for women to connect and challenge each other. "We had conversations like we needed to have," Scott reflected. What seemed like a single monthly experiment became the seed of ongoing community. This reflects a principle that compounds over time: consistency matters more than scale. Show up, month after month. Try something. Notice what it teaches you. Try again.

The practices Scott documents—from writing down dreams to creating space for joy in the midst of difficulty to surrounding yourself with people who believe in you—are tools available to anyone willing to use them. They don't require wealth, connections, or perfect circumstances. They require only a commitment to keep showing up, to remain open, to treat your own becoming as worth the effort.

When Life Doesn't Go as Planned

Scott's journey also aligns with a broader cultural conversation about designing a life you actually love—a theme that writer Jason McBride explored in his viral essay "How to Create a Life You Love: No Magical Thinking Required." The essential message in both is the same: you have more agency than you think, but that agency isn't about controlling outcomes. It's about controlling what you can control: your choices, your intentions, your willingness to learn from what doesn't work.

"Failure is part of the process," McBride and Scott both stress. It's not something to overcome on the way to success. It's something to metabolize. When you try something new and it doesn't land the way you hoped, you're not failing at life. You're collecting information. You're building tolerance for the unknown. You're proving to yourself that you can weather disappointment and keep moving.

The invitation, for readers and listeners, is neither to buy a ticket to extremity nor to accept a life that doesn't feel like yours. It's to begin. Pick one small thing this month that feels slightly outside your comfort zone. Not recklessly outside—safely unfamiliar. Write down what you want to create in the next five years. Look around for the people whose presence reminds you that you belong. And then do it again next month. Twelve times in a year is not dramatic. But it is enough to change everything.

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[0:01] This episode of the Oprah podcast is

[0:03] presented by our partner Geico. So, what

[0:07] was going on in your life? I [music] was

[0:08] in a place of deep disappointment when I

[0:11] wrote the book. You want to tell us

[0:12] about it? If you [music] want to see

[0:14] change in your life and in your world,

[0:15] you have to change yourself. But it's

[0:17] easy to say [music] it's hard to do.

[0:19] Transformation doesn't matter if you do

[0:22] something big or do something small.

[0:23] It's just the openness that you need to

[0:25] have.

[0:28] Well, I'm so glad to be with you here on

[0:29] the Oprah podcast. I'm in one of the

[0:31] greatest cities in the world, New York

[0:33] City, and you can feel the energy and

[0:36] the creative force here. Last summer, I

[0:38] read an article on medium.com because

[0:41] the title really caught my eye. It was

[0:43] called How to Create a Life You Love, No

[0:46] Magical Thinking Required. It's by a

[0:48] writer named Jason McBride. And I shared

[0:50] it with my team because I just really

[0:53] appreciated his simple and powerful

[0:55] message that we all have the power to

[0:57] design or build a life that we love, no

[0:59] matter the circumstances, and it's not

[1:02] as hard or complicated as you think it

[1:05] is. So, I said, I think this is a good

[1:08] conversation to start having for the

[1:09] podcast. So, I'm going to talk with

[1:11] Jason a little later on, but my first

[1:13] guest I wanted you to know has done some

[1:16] really bold, daring things. And she says

[1:18] it is never too late. And you are never

[1:21] too stuck. You're never too old. You're

[1:23] never too much or too little because as

[1:25] long as you live, you can always find

[1:29] new things to learn and new ways to find

[1:32] joy. Shondaanda Scott, an award-winning

[1:35] entrepreneur, [music]

[1:37] CEO, and thought leader who spent more

[1:39] than 20 years turning big ideas into

[1:41] action, working on major projects with

[1:43] companies [music] like Uber, Comcast,

[1:45] BET, and Kaiser Permanente, while also

[1:48] creating economic opportunities in

[1:50] underserved communities. Some of

[1:52] Shondaanda's most meaningful work began

[1:54] with a challenge she gave herself back

[1:56] in 2019. For one year, [music] try one

[1:59] new thing every month. Aha, that's an

[2:01] idea. What started as a personal

[2:03] experiment became a lifestyle [music]

[2:06] inspiring her new book, Give Me a Year,

[2:09] 12 New Things to Embrace Change [music]

[2:12] and Live Your Best Life. Welcome,

[2:14] Shondaanda. Great to meet you and have

[2:17] you here. I wanted to have thank you be

[2:18] the first words out of my mouth to you.

[2:20] My mom wouldn't have it any other way

[2:22] that I would sit here and not thank you

[2:24] for using your platform and how you're

[2:26] doing to elevate authors, especially

[2:28] debut authors. That is so noble of you.

[2:31] Well, you debuted in a big way. I mean,

[2:34] give me a year is such a bold idea. And

[2:37] lots of people would say, "Okay, give me

[2:40] a year and I'll, you know, go hike Mount

[2:43] Olympus or give me a year." But you had

[2:46] 12 new things to embrace and change your

[2:49] So, what was going on in your life? How

[2:51] did you come up with this idea? I was in

[2:52] a place of deep disappointment when I

[2:55] wrote the book. I had already started

[2:57] this 12 new things lifestyle based on

[3:00] doing something new each month so you

[3:03] can embrace change in fun exciting ways

[3:04] to get you out of your comfort zone. But

[3:06] that was a fun social media experiment

[3:09] for me that I did with the premise of

[3:11] thinking if you want to see change in

[3:13] your life and in your world you have to

[3:15] change yourself. But that's easy to say

[3:17] it's hard to do. So how do you make

[3:19] something hard to do fun and light?

[3:21] That's where the 12 new things came up

[3:23] from. But then when I was in this deep

[3:26] disappointment, I had an opportunity

[3:28] happen and the door closed immediately.

[3:31] God shut the door right away and I had

[3:33] done everything. I had put everything in

[3:35] place. It was my dream opportunity and I

[3:38] was excited about it. And when it got

[3:40] shut down, I became deeply disappointed.

[3:43] And writing is how I heal myself. So I

[3:45] thought maybe now is time to write the

[3:47] book.

[3:47] >> The fact that you're using the word

[3:48] disappointed and not depressed because a

[3:50] lot of people would say I was depressed.

[3:52] I was depressed. I was depressed. But

[3:53] you recognize now that it really was

[3:56] your sincere, pure disappointment. And

[4:00] it could have been depression if I

[4:01] didn't have the tools of writing. And so

[4:04] writing is how I heal myself.

[4:06] >> I say deep disappointment because it was

[4:08] just I was sad about an opportunity, but

[4:11] it wasn't something life-threatening or

[4:13] earthshattering, but it was hard.

[4:15] >> Want to tell us about

[4:16] >> it was like my dream opportunity. I

[4:18] thought I wanted all my life and I put

[4:20] everything in place to do it and then

[4:23] everything had come to do the

[4:24] opportunity and I probably prayed God be

[4:27] your will or something [clears throat]

[4:29] better for me and literally the door

[4:31] shut and I wasn't ready for that and for

[4:33] me I think it shook me because at that

[4:35] point in my life in my career I hadn't

[4:38] had that level of disappointment so I

[4:39] wasn't expecting to feel the way I did

[4:42] but it kept bothering me and I kept

[4:44] thinking about it and a friend of mine

[4:46] Maya we went to dinner and talked about

[4:48] it and she's like you know things

[4:49] happens doors close and years later you

[4:51] will know and at the same time I'm

[4:53] telling her about how I'm thinking about

[4:55] writing this book and I tell her I

[4:57] decide to write the book to heal me and

[4:59] as I'm writing the book God tells me me

[5:02] sharing these stories are not only just

[5:04] going to heal me they're going to heal

[5:05] other people absolutely as well. So

[5:07] that's where the whole idea came for

[5:09] writing this book.

[5:10] >> And you went on you went on adventures

[5:12] big and small over the course of a year.

[5:16] And what did that teach you, Shondaanda,

[5:18] about yourself?

[5:19] >> It taught me that transformation doesn't

[5:21] matter if you do something big or do

[5:23] something small. It's just the openness

[5:24] that you need to have.

[5:26] >> It taught me also that having these

[5:28] different adventures intentionally make

[5:31] the difference like once a month for a

[5:33] whole year. It gave me the

[5:35] intentionality to continue to pursue my

[5:38] dreams, to find joy even in the midst of

[5:41] turmoil, even in the midst of

[5:42] unhappiness, even in the midst of all

[5:44] that's going on in the world. I could

[5:46] create joy by doing something new and

[5:48] different each month. I love that at the

[5:50] end of each chapter, you really have uh

[5:54] really delightful, helpful exercises.

[5:56] And I am a firm believer in writing

[5:59] things down. Maya always said that words

[6:02] have power. That's why she wouldn't let

[6:04] anybody say anything in her home that

[6:07] she thought was improper. Like somebody

[6:09] was telling a homophobic joke once I

[6:11] Maya Angelou came across the room.

[6:14] Shondaanda across the room and said be

[6:17] gone with you to the people in her home

[6:20] because she said we're and then we were

[6:21] all standing there shocked and she said

[6:23] not in my house because words have such

[6:26] power. I don't wake want to wake up in

[6:28] the morning and find one stuck in my

[6:30] pillow or in my curtains. And so the

[6:33] power of writing things down here's a

[6:35] good one. You write write down your

[6:37] dreams of what you really want to do,

[6:41] the changes you want to see, and in the

[6:43] next five years, places you'd like to

[6:46] visit or you've put off or put to the

[6:49] side.

[6:50] >> You write about that. I'm the same with

[6:53] the firm believer of writing. And in the

[6:55] Bible, it even says,

[6:56] >> "Write it down and make it plain on

[6:58] tablets." Yes,

[7:00] >> it's clear that the writing is how you

[7:02] actually take the dreams out of your

[7:04] mind, put them to paper. It's like in

[7:06] business, writing, if it's not in

[7:08] writing, is not a deal. It's not a

[7:10] contract. So, it's a contract with

[7:11] yourself. But it also gives you the

[7:13] tools to come up with the plan on how

[7:15] you want to approach your dreams. I say

[7:17] five years because what you dream of you

[7:19] would do in five months is different

[7:22] than five years. So, five years allows

[7:23] you to dream big. Yeah. And it's

[7:25] important to dream big as we've seen

[7:28] from your life and everything else in

[7:29] life that if you dream big, the things

[7:31] you can manifest can blow your mind.

[7:32] >> Well, this is what I have found. That

[7:34] phrase I coined about God dreaming a

[7:36] dream bigger than you can ever dream for

[7:39] yourself. You can dream big and then

[7:41] surrender that dream to God's dream for

[7:45] you and it becomes even more massive. I

[7:48] saw this happen over and over and again

[7:49] in give me a year. Actually, this time

[7:52] last year, we were working on the cover

[7:54] of my book and thinking of the title and

[7:57] we came up with the title, give me a

[7:58] year. I think at that point in your book

[8:02] club, you had said this was the first

[8:03] time I did something new.

[8:05] >> After 109 book club selections, [music]

[8:08] I have never chosen the same book twice

[8:11] until now. At Carti's A New [music]

[8:13] Earth, awakening to your life's purpose.

[8:16] >> So, every time somebody does something

[8:18] new, I tag it to 12 new things. that's

[8:20] somebody doing something new. So, I took

[8:22] that picture, a fake copy of my book,

[8:24] the title that I typed out cuz we didn't

[8:25] have the cover yet, and put it on the in

[8:28] the middle of my vision board.

[8:30] >> So, that was a case of writing it down

[8:32] and making it plain.

[8:34] >> Yeah.

[8:34] >> And here we are. And like I said, then

[8:36] God does the rest.

[8:37] >> Yeah. And you know what happens with

[8:39] that? And I know we're going to talk to

[8:40] Jason later who said in his article that

[8:42] he didn't believe in vision boards, but

[8:44] I certainly do believe in the vision and

[8:47] also writing it down, making it plain

[8:49] clarifies

[8:51] for you,

[8:52] >> right,

[8:53] >> what the vision and the desire is. And

[8:55] what I have found is is that God meets

[8:57] you exactly where you are and then

[9:00] expands it for you.

[9:01] >> I agree. And I agree on the vision

[9:02] boards. If you just write a vision board

[9:04] and don't do action around it and don't

[9:06] take accountability, well, no.

[9:09] But if you use it as a fun tool or

[9:11] creativity count then you're willing to

[9:13] do the work

[9:14] >> and the work

[9:15] >> and the work. And this one about fears

[9:17] because I think so many people are

[9:18] controlled by their fears. You say make

[9:20] a list of your fears and things that

[9:22] make you uncomfortable. Start with one

[9:23] fear. Write the steps you would take to

[9:26] overcome it. You have to get it out.

[9:28] Like holding fear in your mind just

[9:32] locks it there. And oftentimes when you

[9:35] write the fear out, you look at the

[9:36] exercises that you want to do to

[9:38] overcome it. You come up with a plan,

[9:40] you realize what you had manifested as

[9:42] this big giant fear really isn't.

[9:44] >> So what was the fear you needed to

[9:46] overcome?

[9:46] >> So my fear was I don't like little bitty

[9:48] planes. I don't care what level of plane

[9:50] it is. If it's small, I don't like it.

[9:52] So I wanted to go to the Maldes as one

[9:55] of my new things.

[9:56] >> Yeah. And

[9:57] >> you can't get there without taking a

[9:58] small plane. And so I had to work myself

[10:01] through because one thing I'm not going

[10:03] to do is let my fear stop me because I

[10:06] know that on the other side of fear

[10:07] there's so many wonderful blessings. And

[10:09] in this case it was the Maldes. So I'm

[10:11] in Chanda. You're not going to let

[10:12] yourself get to the Maldes because now

[10:14] you have this fear of plains and you're

[10:15] supposed to be a woman of faith and you

[10:17] believe but you're going to let this

[10:19] stop you. So I didn't but I did blog

[10:21] about it. I did talk about it because I

[10:23] was scared the whole time because it's a

[10:25] small sea plane that goes to the small

[10:26] D. I thought it at least was low to sea

[10:28] level. I could see the sea. Not that it

[10:30] actually went thousands of feet in the

[10:32] sky. So the whole time

[10:33] >> I thought you you thought you were just

[10:34] going to be skimming the sea.

[10:36] >> I thought I was just skimming the ski,

[10:38] but it worked out fine. I did it and and

[10:41] I've done a few other activities that

[10:43] have challenged me to get over my fear.

[10:45] I like that you write on page 39, find

[10:48] your seat at the table and if there

[10:50] isn't one, pull one up. Or better yet,

[10:54] build your own table. How did you learn

[10:56] how to do that for yourself? So, I'm a

[10:58] fourth generation entrepreneur. The

[11:00] first, my great-grandfather is the one

[11:03] we attribute to the first. He was born

[11:05] into slavery and then and emancipation.

[11:08] He became a developer and a builder in

[11:11] Colorado in the m Rocky Mountains. So,

[11:13] building is in my family. So, the whole

[11:15] entrepreneurial mindset is in my blood.

[11:17] It's in my DNA. But as a business

[11:20] person, a businesswoman now, I'm in

[11:22] rooms. I'm an we do aviation,

[11:24] transportation, construction, all

[11:26] maledominated fields. And I know the

[11:29] value of having a seat at the table. I

[11:31] know the decisions that have to be made

[11:33] and the voices that you bring to the

[11:35] table that aren't there and the

[11:36] importance and value of you sitting

[11:38] there. But then I also know that when

[11:40] you create the table like you do here,

[11:43] invite you get to invite the people, you

[11:45] get to decide what platform and what

[11:48] resources are you going to provide to

[11:49] people in your community and other

[11:50] businesses. So be my parents taught me

[11:54] that part of the developing a business.

[11:56] I watched them grow their business and

[11:58] vicariously you have shown me the same

[12:00] thing. So I'm the firm believer if I see

[12:02] it being done I know it can be done.

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[13:44] And can you speak to because I hear this

[13:46] from so many women and also particularly

[13:49] from so many uh women of color feel this

[13:55] uh imposttor syndrome they feel and

[13:58] we've addressed it several times on this

[14:00] podcast. I personally have trouble

[14:02] addressing it because I've never felt

[14:03] it. I felt I've always felt if God made

[14:06] a way for me to be there, then I'm

[14:08] supposed to be there. I've always felt

[14:10] as what Maya says in her poem to our

[14:12] grandmothers, I come as one, I stand as

[14:14] 10,000. So, I've always felt like, well,

[14:17] I wouldn't be here if I wasn't supposed

[14:19] to be here. But can you speak to that

[14:21] feeling that so many women in particular

[14:24] have about feeling like imposters? Well,

[14:27] if you're at the table in the room,

[14:28] you're supposed to be there. And I also

[14:30] understand if you're at the table in the

[14:32] room, you're supposed to use your voice.

[14:34] And I don't see it any other way than if

[14:37] the same way you see it. That is God has

[14:39] brought you there. You're there for a

[14:41] reason. And you need to you maximize the

[14:43] reason why you're there. I'm very

[14:45] spiritual and prayerful. So I know that

[14:48] everything that God provides for me,

[14:50] every circumstances I've been in has

[14:52] been a blessing. Right? So when I

[14:53] started out in TV, there was no woman,

[14:55] there was no black people, there was no

[14:57] And so, but I thought God made a way for

[15:00] that. And I'm supposed to be here and

[15:03] you just keep going until God takes you

[15:05] somewhere else.

[15:06] >> Until God takes you somewhere else.

[15:07] That's right.

[15:07] >> And look where he put you. So it's so

[15:10] wonderful. And that's how I see. So I

[15:12] really don't have a deep understanding

[15:13] of where people get the imposttor

[15:15] syndrome from. I have the full

[15:17] humbleness that I know that God is

[15:20] working through me. You're obviously in

[15:22] a maledominated field are in many rooms

[15:25] where there's nobody that looks like you

[15:27] and certainly nobody who has done what

[15:30] you've done who is female and also

[15:32] black. So a few things from my

[15:34] experience is that I always tell people

[15:36] I don't see me. I come from the inside

[15:39] out. Like I'm not looking at me, they're

[15:41] looking at me. So when I walk in the

[15:42] room, some of these men are just baffled

[15:45] how I approach them because one, they're

[15:46] probably not used to it. And one, I'm

[15:48] not seeing me. I'm just coming in and

[15:49] what the what the what the issues are we

[15:51] need to deal with. So they are kind of

[15:53] tickled like who is this woman? I don't

[15:55] I but I don't see myself. So I don't

[15:56] even think about how they may be

[15:59] thinking I'm a woman going into a

[16:01] male-dominated field.

[16:02] >> Oh absolutely. I was blessed to have a

[16:05] five women that have done extraordinary

[16:08] things, my mom included, that look like

[16:10] me. So I grew up in a community in

[16:13] Oakland, California at a time where it

[16:15] was 50% African-American. the the my

[16:19] parents helped get the black mayor first

[16:20] black mayor elected there. There were

[16:21] women

[16:24] to see that the blessed assurance

[16:26] >> from watching it in front of you and

[16:29] seeing other women model it for for you

[16:32] that you deserve and have the right to

[16:34] be there.

[16:34] >> So I'm a firm believer that seeing it,

[16:37] it helps other people be it. So I I

[16:40] absolutely attribute that's why I

[16:43] approach it the way I do because I saw

[16:45] other women that they've done

[16:47] extraordinary things. So I always

[16:49] expected that we had to do something

[16:51] extraordinary

[16:52] but what you've done is even been beyond

[16:54] extraordinary whatever we couldn't could

[16:56] have imagined. So it just helped

[16:59] reaffirm it means it can be done. It can

[17:01] be done.

[17:01] >> It can be done. Charlene is joining us

[17:03] from Miami and she has a question for

[17:05] Shondaanda. Charlene.

[17:06] >> Hi.

[17:07] >> Hi. Hi,

[17:08] >> it's such an honor to join this

[17:11] conversation today. Um, so I am part of

[17:16] a huge Filipino family. Uh, we're very

[17:20] close and I grew up thinking that the

[17:22] good life meant being a good daughter,

[17:26] being a good um student, a good partner,

[17:29] a good citizen. And my parents,

[17:32] wonderful parents who put so much to uh

[17:35] raising my sister and me, showed me how

[17:38] to show up for others, but not how to

[17:40] show up for myself because they

[17:43] themselves didn't know how either. So, I

[17:46] focused on following the rules. I did

[17:50] well in school. I pursued a legal

[17:52] career. Um, I tried to make all the

[17:55] right decisions and meet everyone's

[17:57] expectations, but that wasn't fulfilling

[18:00] me as much as I thought it would. One of

[18:01] my biggest aha moments was that for most

[18:04] of my life, I'd been living with this

[18:06] deep unconscious drive to find the right

[18:09] answer and live by that right answer.

[18:13] And that right answer was always based

[18:15] on someone else's blueprint. And when it

[18:18] dawned on me that this is how I'd been

[18:20] living my life, like I sobbed for hours,

[18:23] um feeling so much grief around how I

[18:26] had been living my life until then. But

[18:28] I also felt a huge sense of relief and a

[18:31] profound freedom around I can live my

[18:35] life however I want and that's okay. And

[18:38] so my question is um as I continue to

[18:43] charter um to chart my own path and lead

[18:47] this beautiful life I've been designing,

[18:50] how do I continue doing this for myself

[18:52] and not allow like old patterns and

[18:55] behaviors um hold me back again?

[18:58] >> Thank you. And I want to tell you

[19:00] congratulations because I am a

[19:03] recovering people pleaser and

[19:06] perfectionist. So, I know it wasn't easy

[19:08] for you to just decide that you were

[19:10] going to start putting you first and

[19:13] loving your life the way you want to do

[19:15] it without worrying about what other

[19:17] people think. That is not easy and I

[19:20] understand that. So, congratulations.

[19:23] So, it's a daily thing. Once you decide

[19:25] you're going to claim your life for your

[19:27] own and reimagine it for yourself,

[19:30] >> that doesn't just stay that way. You're

[19:32] renewing every day. The whole part about

[19:34] change is is continuing to go on. Yeah.

[19:37] So sometimes when the old habits come

[19:39] up, there are ways for you, it's an

[19:41] indicator for you to maybe stop and take

[19:44] a pause and reassess. Am I still

[19:46] committed to myself as I said I was when

[19:48] I first made this commitment? Are there

[19:51] some things I need to change? Am I

[19:53] checking in on myself? I think we need

[19:54] to normalize the check-ins on ourselves.

[19:57] I start the day with prayer. I wake up

[20:00] early, so I check in with God. Then I

[20:02] check in on me and then I check on on

[20:04] everybody else. But I if I do it in a

[20:07] way that's it's it's like brushing my

[20:09] teeth and washing my face. It become

[20:11] that I'm I become that dependent on it.

[20:14] Like it's part of my self-care.

[20:15] >> Yeah. It's your daily ritual.

[20:16] >> My daily ritual and I'm not okay if I'm

[20:20] not doing that. And I can actually see

[20:22] that 30 days after I haven't been doing

[20:24] it or a few days I miss I can tell like

[20:26] old things come up or issues I need to

[20:28] look at. So, I think it gives the old

[20:30] patterns allow you to just take a beat

[20:33] back and selfassess,

[20:36] not self-doubt, just self assess and

[20:38] double check to make sure you're good

[20:40] and make sure you're still doing the

[20:42] things that you committed to yourself to

[20:44] continue to do so that your decisions

[20:46] that you are making are ones based on

[20:48] that are best for you and you're not

[20:50] getting caught up in the routine of

[20:52] getting back into doing everything for

[20:54] everybody else and not yourself. So I

[20:57] think the selfch check should be part of

[20:59] a routine that we do and make it normal

[21:02] that that's part of like how you brush

[21:04] your teeth and how you wash your face.

[21:06] All those things were things we were

[21:07] trained to do. So now we just have to

[21:09] train oursel that it's okay to check on

[21:11] me too every

[21:13] >> to self assess and to self-reassess.

[21:15] And it's okay because when you know

[21:18] you're changing a whole story the whole

[21:21] story of your life which isn't an easy

[21:24] thing to do. And that's why we both

[21:25] applaud you for that because that is the

[21:28] most courageous thing you will ever do

[21:29] in your life is to dare to live the life

[21:32] of your dreams and not somebody else's.

[21:34] That's where the real courage comes in

[21:36] for everybody who is a seeker and on the

[21:39] path to fulfill the meaning of their

[21:41] lives. And that takes real work and the

[21:44] old stuff keeps coming up just to show

[21:46] you how far you've come. One of the

[21:48] things that I use in my hiking now, uh,

[21:50] when I'm trying to get to the top of the

[21:52] mountain or the top of the hill or

[21:53] wherever the goal is, many times I turn

[21:55] around and look back at how far I've

[21:57] come. So, you need to also assess and

[22:00] look at how far you've come. Look at how

[22:02] different you are than that girl who was

[22:05] a doormat for everybody else, whose

[22:07] opinions were influenced by everybody

[22:10] else's opinions. And look at how far

[22:12] you've come and gain strength. Cuz

[22:14] that's what you do when you look back at

[22:15] how far you've come. You see, whoa,

[22:18] I'm doing really better than I thought.

[22:21] Look at how strong I am. And that gives

[22:24] you strength and courage to keep moving

[22:27] forward. And that's what we both wish

[22:29] for you. Thank you so much.

[22:30] >> Congratulations.

[22:31] >> Thank you so much.

[22:32] >> Thanks, Charlene. Thank you so much.

[22:33] >> Thank you. I remember years ago I had

[22:35] expert on the show. I think it was uh

[22:38] life coach uh Cheryl Richardson who told

[22:40] our audience to put themselves at the

[22:43] top of their list. And it was so unheard

[22:45] of at the time.

[22:46] >> But you know this as well as I do that

[22:48] as you begin to take good care of

[22:50] yourself and your cup gets filled up.

[22:52] You naturally then want to be there for

[22:54] others. You want to serve others and

[22:56] you're able to do it in miraculous ways.

[22:59] >> And you could hear the women gasp in the

[23:02] audience when she said, "Where are you

[23:05] on the list and you should be first on

[23:08] the list?" Women were like, "Boo boo,

[23:10] she doesn't have children. She doesn't

[23:12] understand." And I said, "People, she

[23:15] did not say abandon your children in the

[23:17] street." She just said, "Put yourself on

[23:19] the list." And now it's 2026 and we

[23:22] still need to learn this lesson. Why do

[23:24] you think that is? Because we've been

[23:26] conditioned for decades to do and think

[23:30] about everybody else and not ourselves.

[23:32] I have a colleague of mine, she she did

[23:34] an assessment. They had her write down

[23:36] everything that she did in a day. In 24

[23:39] hours, she did 25.5

[23:42] things and she wasn't anywhere on there.

[23:45] So theoretically,

[23:46] >> she couldn't have even taken care of

[23:48] herself because every in a day. Wow. So

[23:51] when you think Yeah. It's a wow moment,

[23:53] too, when you think cuz you write down

[23:54] everything in 24 hours. If you don't get

[23:56] it done, that means you're missing out

[23:57] on you.

[23:58] >> But we've been conditioned our as women

[24:00] to think because we're nurturers, so

[24:02] they were able to sell us on now you

[24:04] have to take care of everybody and

[24:06] exclude you. But I think now that more

[24:08] of us understand the health

[24:10] ramifications that are coming from it,

[24:13] the wellness and depression and things

[24:14] that are women are having to struggle

[24:15] and deal with because we're not taking

[24:17] care of ourselves. I think the next

[24:20] generation will do a better job because

[24:22] we're sharing with them

[24:24] >> are what we've learned. We're letting

[24:26] them know it's okay to take care of

[24:28] themselves and they are running with it.

[24:30] They they will take care of themselves

[24:32] first in a minute. You don't have to

[24:33] tell them twice.

[24:34] >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I think it's important

[24:35] to take care of yourself, but also be

[24:37] willing to extend some of that care to

[24:39] other people, too.

[24:40] >> Oh, absolutely. And I think there's a

[24:42] part that I'm that I'm the assumption

[24:44] that I've make is that women usually are

[24:47] taking care of everyone else. So, if

[24:50] they take care of themselves, it's

[24:52] they're everyone else is going to be

[24:53] taken care of. It's just the fact that

[24:55] we often don't put oursel first to make

[24:58] sure we're whole before we look out for

[25:00] everybody else. 12 new things that you

[25:02] did to embrace change and live your best

[25:04] life. What What are your top three

[25:05] favorites that you love so much?

[25:08] >> Well, one of my top favorites is I did

[25:10] dinner with 12 strangers.

[25:11] >> With 12 strangers. That was that's my

[25:13] favorite for me because I'm very

[25:15] private, but then also the fact that you

[25:18] realize when you're with strangers,

[25:20] especially in a dining capacity, you

[25:23] often find you have more in common than

[25:25] you have different.

[25:25] >> Yeah. That's a chapter that you wrote on

[25:27] guess who's all coming to dinner. Yes.

[25:29] >> Right.

[25:29] >> Yes. Right. So, so why did you want to

[25:31] do that? Have do a dinner for 12

[25:33] strangers. When the Obamas left office,

[25:36] they started the Obama Foundation and

[25:38] they invited a few hundred people to

[25:40] come to launch it. And at the end of the

[25:43] summit, they had a community dinner. And

[25:46] at the community dinner, those of us who

[25:48] all knew each other, we couldn't sit at

[25:49] the same table. They strategically said,

[25:51] "Everyone has to sit with some." They

[25:53] assigned us literally. And then people

[25:55] were trying to switch numbers. They're

[25:56] like, "No, no, everybody has to sit at a

[25:58] different table." So it made so the the

[26:00] dinner was such a great connection and I

[26:03] hadn't thought about a dinner with

[26:05] strangers before and having it

[26:07] strategically done that way with that

[26:08] intention. We had conversations like we

[26:11] had prompted conversations. One person

[26:13] led the table in discussion and by the

[26:16] end we learned new things about each

[26:17] other but then we realized you know the

[26:18] common factors that we all had sitting

[26:21] together as strangers. So in my mind I

[26:23] felt I want to do this but I'm like how

[26:25] am I going to have strangers at my home?

[26:26] Where am I going to find the strangers?

[26:28] Come to find out for years I have been

[26:31] getting this email that I had just

[26:32] overlooked. But since I had now doing

[26:34] new things and open to it, I got an

[26:36] email from UCLA alumni does a dinner

[26:38] with 12 strangers. They have been doing

[26:40] it for 50 years. Although we all come

[26:42] from the same place of alumni

[26:44] association from UCLA. All of us are

[26:47] strangers. So I agreed to host one as

[26:50] one of my new things. And we all came

[26:52] together. We shared stories. We cooked

[26:54] our meal together. We had different

[26:56] teams of people cooking the meal and

[26:57] then we set ate family style. Some of

[26:59] our stories were similar even though our

[27:01] backgrounds were different. So the whole

[27:03] tagline that I talk about in the book is

[27:04] that we came as strangers and left as

[27:06] friends. And so that exper and I I'd

[27:10] like to do it again next time I want to

[27:11] go as a guest and go to someone else's

[27:13] dinner and be one of the 12 strangers.

[27:15] One of the strangers and one of the

[27:17] strangers was someone that was my

[27:18] neighbor. Then we didn't even know each

[27:19] other. We met at my dinner and she

[27:21] didn't know where she was going. So that

[27:23] was one. Cave diving in the cenotes was

[27:25] one that wasn't on my list, but actually

[27:27] one I would recommend if you know how to

[27:29] swim. And then also my dream trip was

[27:32] Dubai, indoor skiing in Dubai. And I was

[27:34] able to do that as my 12th thing that I

[27:37] did the first year I started doing the

[27:38] 12.

[27:39] >> But what I I think those are all

[27:40] wonderful and adventurous things. And I

[27:42] thought when I read it, I thought, "Oh

[27:43] gosh, this makes me think about being

[27:45] more adventurous. I've always wanted to

[27:47] go to Bhutan. Maybe I'll do that." Okay.

[27:50] But for the people who can't do that, I

[27:53] love that embracing 12 new things to

[27:56] emerge and change and live your best

[27:58] life. Also talks about just going a

[28:01] different way to work,

[28:02] >> right?

[28:02] >> Looking for something different to see

[28:04] on the way to work. Doing something

[28:07] different with your friends. What are

[28:08] the smaller things we can do that would

[28:11] allow us to feel like we've brought new

[28:14] changes into our our our being? Since

[28:17] I'm an adventurous person, of course,

[28:18] adventures going to just go wild with

[28:20] me. It was like we're Aquarians. That's

[28:21] how we are. But I did write the book and

[28:24] use examples of smaller things. Exactly.

[28:26] My first new thing was going a different

[28:28] route to work and how you see a

[28:30] different you see your area differently.

[28:32] And my route was more scenic. So I

[28:34] actually came to work with more peace

[28:36] and grace than if I'm in traffic.

[28:38] >> Even though going that way took you

[28:39] longer.

[28:40] >> Even though it took me longer in theory.

[28:42] Yes. You know, it was a better It was

[28:43] peaceful. So, I probably save time on

[28:45] stress. But there I've done things with

[28:48] my family. We had we had events where we

[28:50] went and found discovering our own

[28:52] backyard. Going to museums that have

[28:54] been in your community for years you've

[28:55] never discovered. Those are fun

[28:57] excursions to do that are often free.

[29:00] Museums are free in your neighborhood.

[29:01] So, I the reason why I love this book is

[29:03] I think if you're reading it for

[29:05] yourself, that's really wonderful. But

[29:07] you talk a lot about friends and

[29:08] friendships and doing things with

[29:10] friends. I think deciding with your best

[29:12] friend or a group of friends to embrace

[29:15] this idea of trying taking on new things

[29:17] is also a wonderful idea. I want to

[29:19] bring in Jason McBride who wrote the

[29:21] article I mentioned how to create a life

[29:23] you love. No magical thinking required.

[29:26] He's joining us from his home in Oregon.

[29:28] Jason, you're the inspiration for this

[29:30] episode. Thank you so much.

[29:31] >> Well, thank you for having me.

[29:32] >> And you write that I built a life I love

[29:35] not through manifestation or magical

[29:37] thinking, but through trial and error.

[29:39] Was there a time you write about in the

[29:41] article when you didn't love your life?

[29:42] When you were a lawyer and you gave that

[29:44] up? How hard was that to give up when,

[29:48] and you just heard our previous guest

[29:49] talking about, you know, doing the

[29:51] things everybody else wants you to do.

[29:53] How hard was that to give up the thing

[29:56] that you went to school for, everybody

[29:58] said, now you're a lawyer.

[30:01] How was that

[30:02] >> possible?

[30:04] It was at to that point it was probably

[30:06] one of the hardest things I'd ever done

[30:07] because I decided I wanted to be a

[30:09] lawyer when I was in high school and I

[30:11] structured my whole life and you know

[30:14] everybody's like was rooting me on and

[30:16] that's like what I was destined to do

[30:19] and uh you know go to college get good

[30:21] grades go to law school get good grades

[30:24] come out start being a lawyer I'm like

[30:25] oh this is horrible this is this is

[30:29] making hurting me inside talk about and

[30:32] I did it for nine years but towards the

[30:33] end. Like I would I would throw up every

[30:35] morning. I'd look at myself in the

[30:37] mirror and be like, "Oh,

[30:38] >> really?"

[30:39] >> And it just reached a point where I

[30:40] realized I can't I cannot physically do

[30:43] this uh anymore.

[30:45] >> How long did you put up with it?

[30:46] >> I practiced law for for nine years, one

[30:49] and a half years.

[30:50] >> And you were miserable the whole time?

[30:52] >> Pretty much. I'm a slow learner

[30:53] sometimes, but [laughter]

[30:55] >> Wow. And so when you started thinking

[30:58] maybe I'll give it up, was there the

[31:01] voice in your head that said, "But you

[31:02] can't give it up. You can't give it up

[31:04] because you went to school for it. You

[31:05] can't give it up because you have four

[31:07] kids. You can't give it up because

[31:08] because because

[31:10] >> Oh, yeah. Yeah. And you know, the status

[31:13] is that's a nice status thing to say,

[31:15] "Oh, I'm a lawyer."

[31:17] >> And uh yeah, we had we had four kids at

[31:19] home and also there wasn't really like a

[31:22] real clear idea of what would happen

[31:24] next. Um,

[31:27] but at some point, yeah, it was just a

[31:28] breaking point with myself like, well, I

[31:31] would like to continue to be here on

[31:32] this earth for my four kids. I want to

[31:33] see them. I want to to love them. And

[31:35] this is not happening right now.

[31:37] >> So, you wrote in that article and Sean

[31:39] and I were talking about this earlier

[31:40] that happiness doesn't come from vision

[31:42] boards or birthday wishes. It comes from

[31:44] taking responsibility for your life.

[31:46] Both Shonda and I believe in vision

[31:48] boards. We've done vision boards. we and

[31:50] they work and but now we also strongly

[31:54] believe in being responsible for your

[31:56] life because she's written a whole book

[31:58] about embracing change and doing 12 new

[32:02] things you know in a year. How did you

[32:04] come to know this yourself? I

[32:06] >> I guess try to me it's always like I um

[32:09] for a long time I I I would have lots of

[32:11] ideas right lots of thoughts and but

[32:14] without doing anything with any of them

[32:16] then then nothing ever happened. So, uh,

[32:19] what I had to come to learn is that, um,

[32:21] I think Charlene was kind of talking

[32:23] about she was living a life on somebody

[32:25] else's blueprint. Yeah.

[32:26] >> Um, I felt like, yeah, I was doing that,

[32:28] too, but I had no I had no idea what I

[32:31] was supposed to do. And so, what I

[32:33] wanted to do, what would feel good to

[32:34] me, so I just had to just try stuff. I

[32:37] didn't even know what I could have put

[32:39] on a vision board because I it was I was

[32:40] just so stuck with what I had been

[32:43] doing. So, I just kept doing things,

[32:44] trying things.

[32:45] >> You had no vision to put on a vision

[32:46] board,

[32:47] >> right? Yeah,

[32:48] >> I got it. You also write that you cannot

[32:50] control much in the world, but you can

[32:52] control three things. And I What are

[32:55] those three things? I think the first

[32:56] one is huge.

[32:58] >> You can control your attitude. You can

[32:59] always control how you feel about

[33:01] things.

[33:03] The second is you can always control how

[33:04] much effort you're going to put into

[33:05] something. And then the third is you can

[33:07] choose to love.

[33:09] >> And coming to those realizations did

[33:11] what to enhance or really change the

[33:15] trajectory of your life? For me, it made

[33:17] me realize, oh, the world is a chaotic

[33:19] place that I have no control over. But I

[33:21] actually can control whether I am living

[33:23] a life that I love or not. That's it

[33:25] doesn't matter if bad things are

[33:26] happening outside or bad things are

[33:28] happening in my life. You know, no

[33:31] matter what who we are as people, bad

[33:33] things happen, but that doesn't mean

[33:35] your life is is horrible or miserable.

[33:38] >> You say in the article, even after

[33:40] you've created a life that you love, you

[33:41] will still have bad days. Having a life

[33:44] that you love is not about having a

[33:45] dream job. the right income or being in

[33:47] a relationship, building a life you love

[33:49] is about learning to be the kind of

[33:51] person you want to be around. Amen to

[33:54] that. You know, there's so much

[33:56] comparison in the world today. How do

[33:58] you

[34:00] get people to see what you're saying is

[34:03] real and correct when everybody's just

[34:06] looking for that picture perfect image,

[34:08] you know, to post and to show and to

[34:11] display.

[34:12] >> Yeah. I I I think what we have to do uh

[34:14] to to be in touch with our real selves

[34:16] is a little bit of try and get out of

[34:18] our own our head and and thoughts. Like

[34:20] one thing I I really like to do is I

[34:21] walk in nature. It's really important to

[34:23] me

[34:24] >> and I'm very easily distracted. And so

[34:26] one of the things that I practice that I

[34:28] have is actually write haiku and uh

[34:30] mostly as a way of to help me focus on

[34:33] what I'm observing in the world.

[34:35] >> You believe that to create a life you

[34:38] love, we also have to be willing to

[34:39] screw up.

[34:40] >> Oh yeah. Yeah. For sure. We're human

[34:42] beings, right? I don't think any of us

[34:43] are going to get it right on the first

[34:45] time. And I don't think any of us 100%

[34:47] know right out of the gate how

[34:48] everything's going to go.

[34:50] >> And none of us know that. None of us

[34:52] know that. Shondaanda, you wrote about

[34:53] this, too. People are so afraid to fail

[34:56] because people have been made to believe

[34:58] that failure defines them and that is

[35:01] it.

[35:02] >> And I found that failure is just part of

[35:04] the process. It's just a misstep.

[35:06] >> Amen to that. In the tens of thousands

[35:09] of words that I have in this book, it's

[35:11] only a sentence. Yeah. When I realized

[35:13] it was just a sentence, a bleep in my

[35:15] life, it doesn't define me. It's not the

[35:17] big picture. It just put it all in

[35:19] perspective to me. Like we put more

[35:21] weight on failure than we even do our

[35:24] successes. And so that we just need to

[35:26] shift and we just need to start

[35:28] encouraging people that failure just

[35:30] part and I don't even want to call it

[35:32] failure anymore. I just say it's a

[35:33] misstep. That's part of the journey. I

[35:34] always say it's God's way of telling you

[35:36] you're moving in the wrong direction.

[35:37] >> And that is exactly what it is, too.

[35:39] You're right. And the whole 12 new

[35:41] things. That's why I created it for

[35:43] people to find ways to embrace change

[35:46] and make it fun because then you'll buy

[35:48] into it. And you'll do it once a month.

[35:51] Ask me to do it every day. I may not,

[35:52] but once a month in 12 months, you can

[35:55] do

[35:55] >> and you'll end up doing probably more

[35:57] than that, but it just makes it where

[35:58] you're always renewing yourself

[36:00] regularly and finding new activities and

[36:02] fun. So Jason, were you able able to get

[36:05] the picture perfect image out of your

[36:06] head soon after leaving the job that you

[36:09] had gone to school for and that you felt

[36:12] was going to give you such prestige? Did

[36:14] that come immediately or did that come

[36:16] with time? It it definitely came with

[36:18] time and sometimes I still not sure if I

[36:20] have have completely shed all that. I

[36:22] like you were saying before, I think I

[36:24] carry a lot of that as a way of maybe

[36:26] looking back and look I can see how far

[36:28] I've come. And I love this idea too of

[36:30] of the the failures just being a

[36:32] sentence um in a book, right? I think

[36:35] that we have this idea that failure is

[36:36] somehow permanent. Um but we can just

[36:39] make a new choice next time.

[36:40] >> Yeah. It's a it's a teach it's a huge

[36:43] teaching tool for a lot of us.

[36:45] >> Uh and sometimes I've said, "God, don't

[36:47] teach me nothing new today. I learned

[36:49] enough yesterday. Please don't teach me

[36:52] nothing new today. I've learned enough."

[36:55] Anyway, thank you so much for that

[36:57] article. It stimulated a new way of

[36:59] thinking about how to embrace life and

[37:02] how to live more fully. Thank you so

[37:03] much, Jason McBride. Thank you so much.

[37:05] >> Great.

[37:05] >> Well, thank you for having me.

[37:06] >> Thank you, Shondaanda. How do people

[37:08] keep the momentum of trying new things?

[37:10] That's why you suggest 12. Let's just

[37:13] start with 12. One a month, right? One a

[37:16] month. And after the first year I did

[37:18] it, I realized, oh, this is not just a

[37:20] year. This is a lifestyle. Like every

[37:22] month you can think of new things.

[37:24] There's tons of new things you're doing

[37:26] that you things that you want to do that

[37:28] you haven't done so you can continue to

[37:29] keep it going. People who are eight 80

[37:33] and older are now finding new things.

[37:35] There's a friend of our that I grew up

[37:37] with. She's 80 years old and she lived

[37:39] on a golf course all her life. Never

[37:40] learned how to play golf. Now she's

[37:42] like, I'm doing my new thing. I'm

[37:43] learning how to play golf. Even in your

[37:45] 80s and beyond, there are things if you

[37:48] are still here, God has you to want to

[37:50] learn. If you're still here, you're

[37:52] still supposed to be doing

[37:53] >> something.

[37:53] >> Something. I love that. Shondaanda's

[37:56] book is Give Me a Year, 12 New Things to

[38:00] Embrace Change and Live Your Best Life.

[38:02] It's available now wherever you get your

[38:04] books. And thank you for listening and

[38:05] watching. My intention is that we're

[38:07] sharing new ideas and tools and that you

[38:10] come up with your own 12 new things.

[38:12] I'll see you next time.

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According to Scott, disappointment is sadness about a specific loss—like a closed door or failed opportunity—without being life-threatening. Depression can follow disappointment if you don't have tools to process it. Writing, community, and intentional action helped Scott distinguish between the two and move through disappointment without sliding into depression.
No. Scott discovered that "transformation doesn't matter if you do something big or do something small. It's just the openness that you need to have." The size of the change matters far less than the consistency and intentionality behind it. One new thing per month, sustained for a year, can fundamentally shift how you move through the world.
Scott emphasizes putting yourself at the top of your priority list and surrounding yourself with people whose presence reminds you of your own legitimacy. When you prioritize your own growth and joy, you build the evidence that you belong at your own table. This isn't selfish—it's the foundation for authentic presence with others.
Scott recommends writing down your dreams for the next five years—what you want to do, the changes you want to see, and places you've put off visiting. Writing it down turns an amorphous wish into a contract with yourself and gives you the tools to plan how you'll approach your dreams. Five years allows you to dream bigger than five months would.
Failure isn't an endpoint; it's data. When something doesn't go as planned, you're not failing at life—you're collecting information about what you can tolerate, what you're learning, and who you're becoming. Each attempt, successful or not, builds evidence that you can move through uncertainty and keep going.
Scott found that doing something intentionally new and different each month—even small things—created an opening for joy amid turmoil. You don't have to wait for circumstances to be perfect. You can actively choose to create moments of joy by pursuing growth, learning, or connection, regardless of what's happening around you.

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