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[0:02] Hello everyone. Hello, hello, hello.
[0:07] And welcome to tea. I know I haven't
[0:09] done one of these in a bit.
[0:11] It's [clears throat] been
[0:14] well,
[0:15] I uh
[0:17] I do a lot of teaching these days in
[0:19] these classes and some of them do go on.
[0:22] I do one on Saturday and sometimes they
[0:23] can go on for
[0:25] 4 hours or so and uh
[0:28] between all the
[0:29] prep work and editing and all the other
[0:32] stuff I do uh
[0:34] uh sometimes Sunday morning I just oh
[0:36] God, please.
[0:38] Please,
[0:39] give me a day off.
[0:40] >> [snorts]
[0:42] >> But,
[0:43] uh nonetheless, here I am. I do love to
[0:46] do it.
[0:47] >> [clears throat]
[0:48] >> So, uh
[0:50] uh do let me know if the sound is okay.
[0:55] Right?
[0:56] Uh this um
[0:58] all the different systems I have to use
[1:00] for live streams and classes and all
[1:01] that, they handle the sound differently
[1:03] and
[1:04] and uh
[1:05] I'm trying to get it all stabilized so
[1:08] it's uh
[1:10] uh
[1:11] uh so it's okay.
[1:13] >> [laughter]
[1:13] >> So, it's consistently good
[1:16] and uh loud enough and the like but
[1:18] doesn't distort. So, yeah, there's my uh
[1:22] there's my
[1:23] there's my rant for the morning. As
[1:24] ranty as I can get. So,
[1:27] hello Eva. Good to see you, too.
[1:30] >> [laughter]
[1:32] >> I am very well, thank you. Yeah.
[1:35] Yeah, I actually canceled class
[1:37] yesterday because I was uh
[1:40] kind of under the weather as they say.
[1:42] Rosario says the sound is perfect.
[1:45] Excellent. Great, great, great, great.
[1:47] Right?
[1:48] I have after long last finally
[1:51] well, since last August actually,
[1:53] finally settled in here to uh my own
[1:56] little space.
[1:57] Uh
[1:59] really nice part of
[2:01] of uh Shoreline, which is north of
[2:04] Seattle. A place called Richmond Beach.
[2:06] It's about uh
[2:08] oh,
[2:09] uh
[2:10] maybe a 10-minute walk to
[2:13] the to the beach.
[2:15] Um
[2:16] uh yeah, to the ocean and um
[2:20] uh lots of view look out points and the
[2:22] like and I am still only about 5 minutes
[2:26] from my granddaughter. So, uh every uh
[2:29] every morning I go
[2:31] over and I take both of them to school.
[2:34] So, uh
[2:35] I have my daily dose of the
[2:37] of them and I get
[2:38] and uh they get their daily dose of me.
[2:41] I
[2:41] yeah.
[2:42] I
[2:43] uh you know, I'm their only I'm their
[2:45] only grandparent.
[2:46] Um my son
[2:50] does not want them having anything to do
[2:52] with his mother.
[2:54] >> [laughter]
[2:55] >> And uh
[2:56] their other grandparents live in Hong
[2:57] Kong cuz uh
[2:59] and they're they're half Asian. So, they
[3:01] see them twice a year.
[3:02] And
[3:04] I never had any grandparents around.
[3:06] They they all died
[3:08] early in my life and or before I was
[3:10] born.
[3:11] Uh my son didn't
[3:13] either because my family was so batshit
[3:15] crazy. I
[3:16] I moved just to California
[3:19] and didn't want them to have any contact
[3:22] with that. So, um I it's
[3:25] it's really nice being able to
[3:28] to
[3:29] have a close relationship with
[3:31] with somebody like that. It's it's a
[3:32] sense of continuity there in a world
[3:35] that's very splintered and polarized.
[3:38] So, uh
[3:40] Anybody has any questions right off the
[3:42] bat? I'm I'm [clears throat]
[3:44] I'm be I'd be delighted to take them up
[3:46] immediately.
[3:48] Um
[3:49] I put a title on this just cuz I felt
[3:51] like putting a title on it. I have
[3:53] I did not uh
[3:55] plan actually on thinking about about
[3:58] speaking about
[3:59] about that. Matter of fact, I don't
[4:00] know. What's up there?
[4:02] Truth is too close and too simple to
[4:04] grasp. It's a nice
[4:07] uh
[4:09] You know,
[4:11] in my spiritual growth along
[4:14] the way, which is all
[4:16] which I can mark the day it started and
[4:19] I was
[4:20] 19 and I was 74. So, that's
[4:23] 55 years ago.
[4:25] >> [laughter]
[4:28] >> I I used to think the truth was like the
[4:33] the perfect concept. You got everything
[4:35] right. Everything was understood. I
[4:38] mean, oh, that's it and that's what it
[4:40] is and that's what it is and it was
[4:42] incontrovertible. And I
[4:44] I found a lot of things that really were
[4:47] quite
[4:49] quite precise, quite
[4:51] um impossible to to logically
[4:55] um
[4:56] uh
[4:57] decompose or deconstruct. But,
[5:01] yeah, something was missing.
[5:03] Yeah.
[5:05] It was a while before I ran into Advaita
[5:07] Vedanta and then Zen and then my own
[5:10] teacher
[5:12] that kind of brought the whole thing
[5:14] into focus that truth is not an idea.
[5:20] It's
[5:21] it's it's what is. It's life itself.
[5:24] It's
[5:25] that from which everything comes. It's
[5:28] your very being. It's you.
[5:32] It's you.
[5:38] Just to
[5:41] prove that out for you.
[5:44] Everyone here knows
[5:47] that they ex- if I say, "Do you exist?"
[5:51] >> [laughter]
[5:53] >> Uh yeah, of course. Right?
[5:56] Now, is that an idea?
[5:58] Is that a concept? Is is it a belief, a
[6:01] religion, a theology,
[6:04] a philosophy?
[6:06] Uh
[6:07] And do you need anyone
[6:10] to confirm that for you? Do you need the
[6:12] scriptures or gurus or
[6:15] holy people or priests or imams or
[6:19] rabbis or
[6:21] or anybody
[6:23] to validate that for you?
[6:28] You are.
[6:30] That's
[6:31] that is
[6:32] the truth.
[6:37] Now, we don't pay much attention to that
[6:38] because it's just so self-evident.
[6:43] So, we don't give it a lot of attention.
[6:48] But, that word I
[6:51] is where your whole life revolves
[6:53] around. Everything in your life is in
[6:55] reference to that I.
[6:59] If you know
[7:01] the truth of that I,
[7:04] which doesn't need the word I,
[7:07] does it?
[7:08] You don't have to have any words. You
[7:09] don't have to have a name.
[7:12] You don't have to uh you don't have to
[7:14] be able to think. Sorry, Descartes, but
[7:17] you're wrong.
[7:18] >> [laughter]
[7:24] >> I think is itself a thought.
[7:27] And the I
[7:29] that seems to be thinking is a thought.
[7:34] You don't need any of that
[7:36] to be.
[7:38] Being is simply
[7:42] here and it's you.
[7:48] If you'll give enough time to that,
[7:50] you'll find it to liberate you from all
[7:52] sorts of ideas we've burdened ourselves
[7:54] with. Ooh, nice to
[7:57] who and what we are and what's possible,
[7:58] what's not possible and what can I do
[8:00] and how do I do this and
[8:02] Notice that all of your relationships,
[8:05] all of them, not just the very personal
[8:07] ones, family and lover and all of that,
[8:10] but business and you know, groups you
[8:13] belong to, uh church or
[8:15] or temple or whatever,
[8:18] all are in relation to I.
[8:24] That's why it's called first person
[8:26] because
[8:27] the second and third, you and he, she,
[8:30] it, they, them, all of the pronouns
[8:34] are in relation to I. No I, no you.
[8:37] No I, no world.
[8:39] Everything revolves around I.
[8:44] This was recognized thousands of years
[8:47] ago
[8:48] by by folks in
[8:51] in
[8:52] very early in India, the early rishis of
[8:55] of India
[8:57] that recognized that the I was
[8:59] everything.
[9:00] And so, what was this I?
[9:04] In other words, who am I?
[9:07] Without the concept of I. Even without
[9:09] the word I.
[9:11] What?
[9:15] And this is the focus of meditation.
[9:19] Should be.
[9:21] In the West, meditation has been reduced
[9:23] to a
[9:24] just something else that's a return on
[9:26] investment and you less stress, better
[9:28] health and
[9:30] and manifestation and all sorts of
[9:32] things which dilute it.
[9:35] Uh all of those things result from
[9:37] [snorts] meditation, but they're not the
[9:39] point of it. The point of it is
[9:42] to bring attention to that which
[9:45] is
[9:46] not that which is seen, but what is
[9:48] seeing, you that is seeing.
[9:51] As
[9:54] as uh
[9:55] Saint Francis said "It's beautifully
[9:58] uh what you are looking for is where you
[10:02] are looking from."
[10:04] But we don't pay any attention to that.
[10:10] I didn't.
[10:12] Right past that.
[10:14] Skirted around it. You know, just hung
[10:17] out around it.
[10:19] You know, just kind of dancing around.
[10:22] Very deep insights, but I could not get
[10:24] past the sense that that this I was
[10:28] having insights.
[10:32] I didn't get it.
[10:34] And I'm not sure anybody can get it
[10:37] until until you run into a real teacher
[10:39] who can show you that.
[10:45] It is not the
[10:46] It just doesn't occur to us to question
[10:49] whether or not
[10:51] the I
[10:53] thought, the I experience, the I sense,
[10:56] the I
[10:58] uh
[10:59] self is in fact the truth.
[11:04] We just presume it.
[11:08] So, if I say to somebody,
[11:11] "Okay, you're having an experience.
[11:12] You're suffering, right?"
[11:14] Yeah, okay. Can you find the one who is
[11:17] suffering?
[11:19] Huh?
[11:20] I said,
[11:22] "What the hell are you talking about? Of
[11:23] course I'm suffering."
[11:26] And of course you just can't say that
[11:28] without proper preparation cuz it
[11:30] doesn't make any sense.
[11:34] So, try to break it down a little bit
[11:36] more. Okay, there's feelings here.
[11:39] Uncomfortable,
[11:41] uh horrible feelings. Sometimes intense
[11:44] feelings. Right?
[11:46] And you are definitely having those
[11:49] feelings.
[11:51] And then there's all sorts of thoughts
[11:53] about those feelings.
[11:55] Uh
[11:56] the I got to get rid of it. I don't like
[11:58] it. Please go. How do I How do I do This
[12:01] is terrible. I'm It's doing all these
[12:03] things to my life. All of those thoughts
[12:05] are there. Yeah, those are all there.
[12:10] But notice there's this There's this I
[12:13] am suffering.
[12:18] Is that I anything other than a thought?
[12:22] In other words, can you find actually
[12:25] find the I that is suffering?
[12:30] It seems a strange one, and I'm not sure
[12:32] why it came to me right now to talk
[12:33] about it, but here we are. Let's see
[12:34] what happens.
[12:36] Um
[12:38] All of the experience, the thoughts, the
[12:42] feelings, the intensity, the all of it.
[12:46] They're clear, aren't they? They're
[12:48] You can point to it say, "Yes, this
[12:51] feeling." Right?
[12:53] So, then I say,
[12:54] if I say then
[12:56] you should be able to point to the I
[12:59] that's having those experience, that's
[13:01] suffering it.
[13:03] With the same
[13:04] dead nuts actual accuracy. Everything
[13:07] out You can point to it. There it is.
[13:08] Yeah, it feels horrible. There's this
[13:10] feeling. There's all these thoughts.
[13:13] Show me the [clears throat] I.
[13:19] I'm not sure this is landing anywhere,
[13:21] but
[13:22] I'll just kind of
[13:24] take it to the take it take it to the
[13:26] end. It's
[13:28] It it it can be perplexing.
[13:32] Because the I that's suffering is
[13:34] assumed.
[13:36] It's just not questioned.
[13:40] And
[13:41] Well, there's got to be an I suffering
[13:42] cuz there's all this suffering going on.
[13:45] Well, there are feelings going on for
[13:47] sure. It starts with the feelings, not
[13:49] with the thoughts.
[13:51] Because the feelings are there. Whoop.
[13:54] And And then there's thoughts about
[13:56] those feelings. Something arises in the
[13:58] environment, and then there's all sorts
[14:00] of thoughts and ideas about that. It's a
[14:02] suffering. It is terrible. I don't want
[14:04] that.
[14:06] So,
[14:07] putting just the attention just on the
[14:09] feelings, the actual experience itself.
[14:15] What if we don't pay any attention to
[14:17] the thoughts about it?
[14:20] Cuz they're shaped by conditioning and
[14:23] traumas and culture and all sorts of
[14:26] stuff. You shouldn't be feeling this,
[14:27] shouldn't thinking this.
[14:29] Those are thoughts.
[14:33] No feeling that arises says, "Ah, this
[14:35] is terrible. I'm overwhelming. You can't
[14:37] handle it." They don't. They just are
[14:39] feelings that are there.
[14:41] And then later
[14:43] very quickly
[14:44] the mind jumps in and says, "God, I
[14:47] can't I can't deal with this."
[14:51] Which
[14:52] which creates this sense of suffering.
[14:55] The sense of suffering is definitely
[14:57] there.
[14:59] So, then ask this I that can't deal with
[15:02] it.
[15:05] What is it? Let me see that.
[15:08] Or
[15:09] Is there actually an I that can't deal
[15:11] with it? Or is there a thought that
[15:14] says, "I can't deal with it." And it's a
[15:16] belief
[15:18] being being seen and held by
[15:23] you.
[15:28] The feeling didn't announce it.
[15:30] The feeling didn't announce give itself
[15:32] a name, diagnosis, or anything. It's
[15:34] just there.
[15:37] You're just there.
[15:39] Without the thoughts, without any of
[15:42] that,
[15:43] is there suffering?
[15:49] There can be pain for sure, discomfort
[15:51] for sure.
[15:53] But suffering?
[15:54] Do I have to suffer it?
[15:58] Or is the I am suffering just a thought
[16:04] that doesn't need to be believed?
[16:09] Huh?
[16:10] And the I
[16:12] that seems to believe that thought,
[16:17] isn't that just another thought?
[16:23] I'm just going to leave it there cuz
[16:26] I I keep
[16:28] poking in and digging, and I'm just I'm
[16:31] I'm hoping somebody out there is is like
[16:33] gears are turning because
[16:35] you know, sometimes I can feel I Yeah,
[16:37] it's connecting somewhere.
[16:39] So, I sometimes I can't.
[16:41] So, it might be. I don't dismiss it.
[16:44] Just that I'm not I'm not feeling it.
[16:46] You all have a beverage today. Yes,
[16:47] good.
[16:49] >> [laughter]
[16:53] >> Uh
[16:54] let me go back and
[16:56] make sure I say hello to you.
[16:57] Anne, hello Anne.
[16:59] Um
[17:01] it's Anne.
[17:02] You're new. Good evening, G. Good to see
[17:04] you. Good to see you, too. Are you new?
[17:07] Or am I just not remembering?
[17:12] Um
[17:13] Victoria.
[17:15] Uh my parents suffer a lot not having
[17:18] their grandchildren around.
[17:20] Uh
[17:21] I hope you're feel I hope you're feeling
[17:23] better, G. Thank you. Thank you. Thank
[17:25] you so much. Um
[17:28] Uh um
[17:31] Uh
[17:32] suffer you know, that that
[17:34] that's actually a
[17:36] a choice. It's a
[17:38] We have all have expectations about
[17:40] life.
[17:42] What it's supposed to do. But But you
[17:44] know, life never signed any kind of deal
[17:46] that said it was going to show up the
[17:47] way it we wanted it to.
[17:50] There have been times when I have been
[17:52] away and I've not seen my grandkids and
[17:55] when I was living in New Mexico for a
[17:56] while, probably three, four nights a
[17:58] week, my you know, I I'd get a call on
[18:00] FaceTime from my from my granddaughter
[18:02] so before the younger one was born.
[18:04] We're very
[18:06] We're very very close.
[18:07] And I missed her. I missed her terribly.
[18:11] And I miss them
[18:12] when I don't see them.
[18:14] But I don't suffer it.
[18:18] You know, life is the way life is. I
[18:19] mean, uh
[18:21] There's lots of times where uh you know,
[18:25] uh the grandparents would expect, "Well,
[18:26] why wasn't I invited to that?"
[18:28] [clears throat] And I go,
[18:29] "Let them have their family. Let them
[18:31] just
[18:32] do what they want to do."
[18:35] I don't want to put any shackles or
[18:37] demands on anybody. Good lord.
[18:40] >> [laughter]
[18:41] >> Good lord.
[18:43] I had enough of that put on me, and uh
[18:46] I know it doesn't It doesn't feel right.
[18:49] I come to trust life.
[18:53] It knows what it's doing.
[18:55] Yeah.
[18:57] Your parents can miss them. They can
[18:59] feel
[19:00] They can feel uh
[19:02] uh sad about it. You know,
[19:04] they can all sorts of things, right? But
[19:09] they don't have to suffer. Suffering is
[19:11] voluntary. Suffering is the attitude we
[19:13] have towards it.
[19:14] And of course that is based on our
[19:17] central identity, which is just
[19:20] that I thought.
[19:22] Without the I thought,
[19:24] right? Never occurred to you. You'd
[19:26] still be here, wouldn't you?
[19:29] >> [laughter]
[19:31] >> You'd still be here.
[19:33] You wouldn't cease to exist. The dog
[19:35] exists just fine, doesn't have an I
[19:37] thought. Children
[19:39] don't have an I thought right away. It
[19:41] comes.
[19:45] Suffering is
[19:47] completely
[19:50] our disagreement
[19:52] with uh life and what's happening
[19:56] and our and uh the foiling of our
[19:59] expectations,
[20:02] that's all it is.
[20:04] Otherwise, there is no suffering in
[20:06] life. Not saying there's not pain, loss.
[20:10] You know?
[20:11] I miss my grandkids. I miss my own kids
[20:14] when they were little little boys. I
[20:16] miss my 5-year-old kids.
[20:19] But they're not here anymore. Right?
[20:22] So now it's just this sweetness that's
[20:24] kind of permeates permeates everything.
[20:28] I still refer to them as the best
[20:30] mistake I ever made.
[20:35] Uh hope Yeah, let's let's see.
[20:38] Here we Yeah.
[20:40] My being is is always evident. It's so
[20:44] simple. Yes.
[20:48] The truth is very simple, but the mind
[20:51] is highly complex.
[20:53] Because
[20:55] minds, the way they function,
[20:58] they need a reference point.
[21:02] You can't have mind without a reference.
[21:04] It has to have some way to organize all
[21:06] the stuff.
[21:07] All right.
[21:09] And at first it just it makes something
[21:11] up. And the thing that it makes up is
[21:14] the sense of I I am. I am this. I am the
[21:17] body. Then I am this that that's how it
[21:19] does it.
[21:22] Cuz it cannot see or know you,
[21:28] which is not an object that you can
[21:30] perceive.
[21:33] Consciousness, that which is hearing my
[21:35] words, is not a form. It's not a thing.
[21:41] It's everywhere like space. It's It's
[21:44] But it's you.
[21:47] All right.
[21:48] Victoria said, "I'm not feeling
[21:50] physically good today. I finally forced
[21:52] myself to walk a little bit."
[21:55] Sometimes I find myself thinking that
[21:58] maybe there
[21:59] is really nothing and everything is just
[22:03] pure randomness.
[22:06] Thinking of that makes me sad.
[22:09] Well, let's look at that together then,
[22:11] all right?
[22:12] >> [clears throat]
[22:12] >> All right.
[22:13] Look around.
[22:15] >> [snorts]
[22:16] >> Just
[22:18] look
[22:19] around everywhere.
[22:22] Do you see randomness?
[22:24] There is an order to things.
[22:27] There is a
[22:29] There is a a shape, a form. There's no
[22:32] formlessness, just big blobs of nothing
[22:35] in the sky, right? You go, "Well,
[22:37] clouds are formless." Well, no, they're
[22:39] clouds. They're They're
[22:42] They're definitely things here.
[22:46] And it's not random.
[22:49] You We can see that everything
[22:51] everything is
[22:53] the way it is because of what came
[22:55] before this cause and effect, this
[22:57] constant transformation.
[23:00] That this moment right now is happening
[23:03] because of a confluence of just an
[23:06] unthinkable number of events.
[23:10] Right?
[23:12] We couldn't be doing this if without
[23:15] somebody inventing, you know, the
[23:16] internet and computers and microphones
[23:18] and stands and lights and haircuts
[23:22] [laughter]
[23:22] and clothes and I
[23:25] You it
[23:26] everything. There is this kind of this
[23:28] rolling
[23:30] inevitability about about things.
[23:34] All right.
[23:36] Now,
[23:38] um because our minds are limited
[23:43] and our primitive drive is we want to be
[23:45] safe, so we want some certainty about
[23:47] things.
[23:49] We think
[23:51] that we understand how things happened
[23:54] and why.
[23:56] And that that
[23:57] And that that's
[24:00] that's bad enough, but it's innocent.
[24:03] But it's when we get that idea, we start
[24:06] tinkering. So, "Oh, if I do this, then
[24:09] I'll make it like this." And now we want
[24:12] to make it the way we want to make it.
[24:15] Genetic engineering, you know.
[24:18] Uh
[24:19] uh genetic and genetically modified
[24:22] organisms, artificial intelligence, all
[24:25] of these things for us to try to
[24:28] create what we think should be.
[24:32] Trying to rid ourselves of the illusion
[24:36] of randomness, not actually seeing the
[24:39] incredible order and
[24:41] always messing up because we can only
[24:45] see this thread. We only see like this
[24:47] linear little thread of causation. We
[24:49] don't see the infinite dimensions of
[24:51] causation in every single moment. Isn't
[24:54] this a good data point? Everything
[24:56] causes everything.
[25:00] So,
[25:01] drop the idea. Just drop all your ideas
[25:04] of what it should be.
[25:06] All right.
[25:07] And look.
[25:09] You won't see randomness.
[25:14] You'll see this
[25:16] wonder. It's
[25:18] so complex, it's inconceivable.
[25:20] But yet
[25:22] it never messes up.
[25:25] It never repeats itself.
[25:29] And it's in constant transformation. It
[25:31] never sits still.
[25:34] All right.
[25:38] The sadness comes because
[25:42] we think
[25:44] in our minds unconsciously
[25:47] we associate the notion that if I if I
[25:50] just kind of let go of
[25:53] everything the way I think it should the
[25:55] way I want it to be,
[25:57] it will be horrible.
[26:00] That I've got to keep going. I've got to
[26:02] make something happen.
[26:05] And
[26:06] and the fear is that if I stop doing
[26:08] that,
[26:09] it's just going to get worse and I'm
[26:11] holding it together, you know, with a by
[26:13] a thread.
[26:15] The fact is anybody who's ever tried to
[26:17] even a little bit, including you, and
[26:20] I've seen you do it.
[26:21] Just a little bit, suddenly there's
[26:24] there's this sense of relief.
[26:27] Sometimes very small, sometimes bigger.
[26:29] But
[26:30] what I'm asking when I ask someone to
[26:34] simply let go of it for a moment.
[26:39] Are you going to fall into nothingness,
[26:40] a void, catastrophe?
[26:43] What you find is you.
[26:47] That you're here.
[26:52] That you are
[26:54] a part of this and
[26:57] and you are in it and it is in you. It's
[26:59] like, you know,
[27:02] a drop in the ocean and the ocean in
[27:04] every drop.
[27:06] Every single drop, every single bit of
[27:08] water has the whole
[27:10] ocean in it.
[27:12] In fact, it is the ocean, isn't it?
[27:14] >> [laughter]
[27:15] >> Look at this here. We can carry it
[27:17] around in our bodies.
[27:19] 80% water.
[27:23] So, sadness is the sense of loss.
[27:28] Is there really a loss
[27:31] of anything other than the suffering?
[27:36] It really is to be pondered deeply.
[27:39] And we see that we
[27:41] we've just been conditioned and trained
[27:44] to believe that somehow I personally am
[27:46] supposed to make all this happen and
[27:50] the perfect relationship and perfect
[27:52] health and perfect finances and perfect
[27:54] everything. And so we we're trying to do
[27:57] with our minds what they can't do.
[28:01] They simply can't do it.
[28:04] And [snorts] we get so afraid and so
[28:07] concerned that we can't do it. We end up
[28:09] trying to enforce it to force it to
[28:11] happen and
[28:12] and cause conflicts and wars and just
[28:16] unthinkable brutality and cruelty and
[28:20] pain inflicted on each other
[28:24] trying to control what can't be
[28:26] controlled
[28:28] through the through an instrument
[28:30] completely incapable of even fathoming
[28:33] it, let alone changing its course and
[28:36] making it something better.
[28:39] >> [laughter]
[28:41] [gasps and sighs]
[28:41] >> Uh
[28:45] I didn't feel good yesterday. That's why
[28:47] I canceled the class.
[28:49] Was those of you who in the class, no?
[28:55] So, what do you do with that time?
[28:58] There's There's a part of me that's
[29:00] always been a real doer. Get things done
[29:02] and
[29:03] when
[29:04] one time in my life I for a long time I
[29:08] only slept 4 hours a day.
[29:10] I just didn't need to sleep. I was just
[29:12] As my kids said, you know, my kids said,
[29:15] "I
[29:16] I've never seen anybody with that much
[29:18] energy. You just never run out." All
[29:21] right.
[29:22] So, yesterday I'm not feeling good. I
[29:23] can't do much of anything. What do I do?
[29:29] I decided to use it.
[29:31] You to watch to watch the impulse to do
[29:34] and all of that and to just settle into
[29:37] just being.
[29:39] Just being.
[29:44] Uh
[29:45] It's marvelous. It's peaceful. It
[29:48] doesn't get in the way of things having
[29:49] to get done at all.
[29:52] It It's just
[29:54] doing doesn't have to come from
[29:57] the sense that if I don't do it
[30:00] something bad's going to happen. It can
[30:02] come from the place of
[30:05] of
[30:06] of calm, confidence, peace, contentment.
[30:12] To be peaceful or contentment doesn't
[30:14] mean you're just going to sit on your
[30:15] ass all day. I'm so building nothing to
[30:18] No, it it it's the center of being
[30:21] around which activity takes place.
[30:24] It is the unmoving center around which
[30:27] the universe flows. All of the events
[30:32] They just you know unfathomably
[30:34] complex and interdependency of all of
[30:37] the events that make anything happen.
[30:40] All of those
[30:42] are
[30:43] are resting on this unmoving
[30:46] this unmoving
[30:48] ground of being.
[30:55] You can't have an infinite stream of
[30:57] cause and effect because every cause
[30:59] becomes an effect, every effect becomes
[31:00] a cause.
[31:01] There's got to be something there
[31:04] uncaused.
[31:07] There's something there that is real,
[31:10] absolute.
[31:12] Timeless. Has to be.
[31:15] Something other cuz everything has a
[31:17] cause well well
[31:20] Where did it start?
[31:23] Recognizing this people came up with all
[31:25] sorts of ideas about God and all of
[31:27] that.
[31:28] My version of God which is very personal
[31:31] and
[31:32] that God seems to want everything
[31:35] the way I do. Isn't that interesting?
[31:38] >> [laughter]
[31:42] >> He seems to think my way's the best way.
[31:44] Hmm. So I should
[31:46] So I should make you do it my way. Yeah.
[31:48] And do it my
[31:50] way.
[31:52] Ah.
[31:53] Ah. So is it still sad for you,
[31:56] Victoria?
[31:58] Ah.
[31:59] It wouldn't be sad if you realized what
[32:01] you were letting go of.
[32:06] Ah.
[32:07] What's going to be replaced by something
[32:10] inconceivably better.
[32:13] Ah.
[32:15] And that that would make adjustments to
[32:19] the experience. So you simply wouldn't
[32:21] experience things the same way.
[32:26] Ah. When you're sad, what does the world
[32:28] look like?
[32:30] Ah.
[32:30] Everything's sad.
[32:33] When you fall in love, what does the
[32:34] world look like? Oh my god, everything
[32:36] is beautiful, wonderful, right?
[32:39] The world hasn't changed.
[32:42] It's only the way we see it.
[32:44] That's it.
[32:46] We don't change. We are that unchanging
[32:48] center.
[32:49] It's only the way we see ourselves. What
[32:52] you entertain in your mind as I.
[32:57] That forms the world you see.
[33:00] But the world you see is not the world
[33:01] that is.
[33:03] Yeah.
[33:05] Ah.
[33:07] Ah.
[33:12] Yeah, let me know.
[33:14] Like
[33:15] And I get to see you again soon anyway.
[33:18] >> [laughter]
[33:20] >> You're not going to get out of my sight.
[33:22] Eva says, "Who Who said that I am
[33:25] suffering?
[33:27] Well, I can't see I. Yeah.
[33:31] Isn't it possible
[33:33] that it's just a thought, I
[33:36] and not actually you?
[33:40] Isn't it possible?
[33:43] Right?
[33:45] Sal said, "So we can see the thought I
[33:48] am in pain clearly or I'm finding this
[33:52] overwhelming.
[33:54] Can we see the I thought on its own in
[33:57] the same way?" Can you?
[34:02] Everyone
[34:04] Can you?
[34:07] Look.
[34:08] Yeah. Look.
[34:10] Can I see the I thought?
[34:13] The word I, yes. I can see the word I.
[34:18] And all words
[34:20] point to something that that word is
[34:23] based on, right?
[34:26] So the word the word pain, overwhelm
[34:30] Those are actual feelings I can point
[34:32] to. Yeah, they're subtle. It's not like,
[34:33] you know
[34:34] the microphone, right?
[34:36] I can point at microphone. I can point
[34:37] at this microphone.
[34:39] It's more subtle. It's more internal,
[34:41] but it does have a definite shape.
[34:44] Sadness feels different than than
[34:47] happiness, right? Love feels different
[34:49] than anger.
[34:51] They're
[34:52] They're They're not the same as a an
[34:54] object out here in in the external
[34:56] world, but but they're quite
[34:58] identifiable, aren't they?
[35:02] Now, what is the I
[35:04] thought pointing at?
[35:07] For most, the I thought is well, I'm me.
[35:12] I'm Greg. I'm 74. I live in Shoreline in
[35:16] Washington in the US and
[35:19] I'm online and I do these things and I
[35:21] have these gadgets and
[35:23] etc. And I
[35:24] was I was born in Illinois. This whole
[35:26] story. I I was this, I was that, I was
[35:29] this, I was that.
[35:30] All of which are experiences being had.
[35:33] Yeah?
[35:35] We're saying I am.
[35:43] So
[35:44] what is the I pointing at? If you look,
[35:46] you find that
[35:49] the I that it's pointing at
[35:51] it's not like I say my car and I can
[35:55] point to my car.
[35:57] You find that I say my car
[35:59] and [clears throat] that thought is only
[36:01] pointing to another thought of car.
[36:04] It's not actually the car.
[36:07] The I thought, its reference point is
[36:10] actually just another thought.
[36:14] More subtle.
[36:17] >> [clears throat]
[36:18] >> Even invisible.
[36:21] >> [laughter]
[36:21] >> More of an influence than an actual
[36:23] thought, but it is a movement and you
[36:25] find that wait a minute, if if this
[36:28] thought is only referring to another
[36:30] thought
[36:34] what's real?
[36:36] Cuz
[36:38] And if I've been
[36:39] my whole I has been based on the
[36:42] existence of what in fact is just a
[36:44] thought
[36:47] not pointing to anything, maybe even
[36:49] made up, totally imaginary. No wonder I
[36:53] feel so unstable.
[36:55] There's nothing solid there.
[36:58] Yet
[37:00] I am. I do exist. I'm not a thought. I'm
[37:04] not an illusion.
[37:08] The I thought
[37:11] in and of itself has is nothing. It's
[37:13] just a It's just a thought. It's an
[37:15] index. It's a pointer to something.
[37:19] And for the most part, that index has
[37:21] been pointing in the wrong to the wrong
[37:22] place, to what in fact is just another
[37:25] thought.
[37:27] So
[37:30] where is the actual I?
[37:36] And is that suffering?
[37:42] Well
[37:43] when the teacher says
[37:45] "Look to that which you know for a fact
[37:50] is and it's not a thought."
[37:53] And what's that?
[37:55] I am. Even those words I am are a
[37:58] pointer, right?
[38:02] So
[38:03] that But they're pointing at a fact.
[38:06] Not another thought, not a belief.
[38:09] I am. It's a fact.
[38:11] Right?
[38:14] But But what's there? This I.
[38:18] I mean, if I
[38:19] it's pointing the I is pointing to
[38:21] another thought of I, well, I could see
[38:23] it. Oh, there there it is.
[38:26] This is more troublesome because
[38:29] the actual I the one that's here, the
[38:32] one that isn't a thought
[38:35] I can't see it.
[38:41] Doesn't look like there's anything here,
[38:43] but there is. I'm here.
[38:45] Yeah.
[38:46] And And this is This is the realm of of
[38:50] non-dual self inquiry.
[38:53] The mind and our training
[38:56] says the I must be some kind of
[38:59] concrete, palpable, perceivable shape
[39:04] for it to be real.
[39:08] But every shape everything perceived
[39:12] is only a perception and it's not
[39:15] actually me.
[39:17] Can't be. I'm looking at it.
[39:21] And you run into
[39:23] the thing that the mind does not want to
[39:26] accept and that is I cannot perceive
[39:29] myself.
[39:32] I can't.
[39:34] So no image I have of myself of any
[39:38] shape or form or content or history or
[39:41] memory is not what I am, only thoughts.
[39:49] So,
[39:51] the only place I can go
[39:54] to find what I actually am
[39:57] [clears throat]
[39:57] is by putting my attention
[40:00] on
[40:02] what's seeing.
[40:04] The fact that I exist, and simply whoop
[40:10] pushing aside
[40:11] refusing to acknowledge every object,
[40:14] thought, experience that presents itself
[40:18] as me.
[40:20] And sometimes just this painful thought
[40:22] comes up. Right? The painful experience
[40:24] and the thought comes up. Go, "I don't
[40:26] like that." Right?
[40:28] Whoop.
[40:29] I I don't like Show me this I that
[40:32] doesn't like that.
[40:36] Well, there's a feeling of not liking
[40:38] it, but I'm I'm here looking at it.
[40:45] And what if that thought, I don't like
[40:47] it, never never occurred to me?
[40:50] It would have never occurred, just never
[40:51] popped into my head.
[40:54] The I'm just here.
[40:57] Pain is here, or some kind of
[40:58] experience. Feel like a dog.
[41:01] Right?
[41:01] It's there. It hurts.
[41:03] But it's not going, "Man, I don't like
[41:05] this." All this [clears throat] stuff.
[41:08] There's no I there
[41:10] to take ownership of it. It just It just
[41:12] becomes experience.
[41:15] To who?
[41:19] Take that thought away, you're still
[41:21] here.
[41:22] Everything the experience is still here.
[41:27] But what's missing
[41:29] is the sense of this I that is
[41:31] suffering.
[41:37] Are you guys following this?
[41:43] Yeah, it's a subtle one.
[41:48] This isn't knowledge.
[41:50] This isn't uh you know,
[41:53] like they said, truth is too close and
[41:55] too simple for us to grasp it as
[41:56] knowledge. It's not knowledge.
[41:59] Knowledge is secondary.
[42:03] I have knowledge of stuff that I can use
[42:05] to speak about it, but that knowledge is
[42:07] not it. You're it.
[42:12] So, it's not knowledge that can be can
[42:14] be gained because that, too, is relative
[42:16] to
[42:18] It has a cause. It has a beginning. It
[42:20] has an end. It has all of these
[42:21] characteristics that make it
[42:23] perceivable. Right?
[42:25] How do I know me? Well,
[42:29] you know that you are, right?
[42:32] But
[42:34] you
[42:36] It doesn't need confirmation. That's not
[42:38] knowledge in
[42:40] that it is not knowledge that's derived.
[42:43] I can say I know that I am, but even
[42:46] those words that convey information,
[42:50] right?
[42:51] are only a representative of the fact
[42:54] which cannot really be articulated.
[42:59] And
[43:00] and
[43:01] I don't have to articulate it
[43:04] >> [laughter]
[43:05] >> to be it.
[43:08] Fact if I couldn't speak, I couldn't
[43:10] here, I would still be it.
[43:17] All right. Boy, I really went off on a
[43:18] tangent there. I hope that was useful.
[43:24] So, the I
[43:26] thought,
[43:27] right?
[43:29] is
[43:30] is really
[43:31] uh
[43:33] I had to go back now. What is this Oh,
[43:34] it's all right.
[43:35] Um the I thought
[43:38] Ramana referred to it. He says He said
[43:41] like a spirit
[43:44] impalpable
[43:46] the I thought arises.
[43:52] The I thought arises arises in us when
[43:55] we were our very young, but it is not
[43:58] the
[43:58] words I yet.
[44:02] It is the sense
[44:05] I I am. Right?
[44:08] A concrete sense of I am, prior to which
[44:11] you just are.
[44:15] Ramana referred to that as the I
[44:18] thought. [snorts]
[44:19] Cuz out of that comes the words I am
[44:22] when we have words to to say it. We can
[44:24] articulate I am this or that,
[44:28] but we're already I feeling I am pulling
[44:33] towards identifying with something
[44:36] before the words are there. In other
[44:38] words, the I am the body
[44:41] thought feeling is there before we have
[44:45] any idea of the words to articulate it.
[44:48] In fact,
[44:50] for most
[44:51] the words I am the body
[44:54] never really come out of their mouth,
[44:57] and it's believed before any of the
[45:00] words
[45:01] have formed.
[45:05] I am
[45:07] the body.
[45:09] The moment that happens, right?
[45:13] Not only do we get compressed within a
[45:16] form,
[45:17] but the body, which in fact did not
[45:20] exist before,
[45:22] comes into being as the perception of
[45:27] experience.
[45:29] The focal point of experience.
[45:32] The body does not exist separate from
[45:35] the mind.
[45:36] From the I thought.
[45:40] Take away the I thought, and what do you
[45:41] have?
[45:42] Infinite
[45:44] undifferentiated,
[45:45] illimitable experience.
[45:49] Not confined to an I.
[45:54] With the I thought, I am the body,
[45:58] I create a form
[46:04] bounded,
[46:06] and then all experience becomes
[46:09] other. I'm not that.
[46:15] And this is the separation that we feel.
[46:18] And with it comes fear, shame,
[46:22] the fear of loss, fear of death,
[46:26] fear of of of inadequacy. All of it
[46:29] comes from there. It It is the It is
[46:31] really the
[46:33] the essential the existential trauma.
[46:39] The experiences of trauma in childhood
[46:43] come after that.
[46:48] Am I going too far with this in any
[46:50] direction?
[46:53] Marty, hi Marty. Definitely connecting.
[46:56] Cool, good.
[46:58] I want to keep going here for a bit cuz
[47:01] I'll take a sip of this first.
[47:06] It says, "I see suffering. However, I
[47:08] don't see this. I can't see I because I
[47:12] am I. So, suffering does not belong to I
[47:16] who is just seeing it."
[47:20] Yes.
[47:34] >> [clears throat]
[47:35] >> Because I am I. Yes. So,
[47:39] you know, you
[47:40] The [clears throat] I cannot see itself,
[47:42] can it?
[47:45] When we really think in just the most
[47:47] practical ways to really look at it, you
[47:49] know, you know, I
[47:51] I have images of what I look like,
[47:55] but I've never actually seen my own
[47:57] face.
[48:00] Right?
[48:01] I mean, it's funny.
[48:03] >> [clears throat]
[48:04] >> I even mentioned that to my
[48:06] granddaughter once several
[48:08] uh a few years ago. Every now and then I
[48:10] throw these little things out there.
[48:12] And she goes, "What?" Yeah, it's it's
[48:15] true. And then
[48:17] probably about a year later I'm I was
[48:18] just sitting in the
[48:20] in the room where she was looking in the
[48:21] mirror. She goes,
[48:23] "You know, Papa,
[48:25] you can't see your own face."
[48:28] >> [laughter]
[48:31] >> That's my granddaughter.
[48:33] Yeah.
[48:34] >> [laughter]
[48:37] >> Yeah, it's a little familial pride.
[48:39] Yeah.
[48:41] I was just
[48:42] happy to see the
[48:43] the these seeds were being seeds were
[48:46] being planted. Yeah. Anyway,
[48:49] um
[48:51] got off on got off on that.
[48:54] The But it's a fact, isn't it? So, all
[48:57] of the ideas, all of the pictures in our
[48:59] minds that we have of ourselves,
[49:02] we've not actually seen.
[49:06] It's always us as seen
[49:09] from somewhere outside the body, isn't
[49:12] it?
[49:15] Okay, so
[49:17] then it's basically second hand
[49:19] knowledge. How do I get first hand
[49:20] knowledge of me?
[49:25] Oh, I can't see me.
[49:28] I can't see myself directly. So, none of
[49:30] the information I've got is direct. It's
[49:32] all indirect. It's all hearsay.
[49:34] Okay. So, what do I know then about me?
[49:37] Directly.
[49:39] Well, I
[49:41] keep coming you back bringing you back
[49:42] to that same place. I know I am.
[49:49] What do I look like
[49:50] from here?
[49:54] So, that means any image you hold of
[49:55] yourself, any image whatsoever,
[49:59] is not actually you.
[50:02] It's not your experience of you.
[50:05] You don't experience yourself as you
[50:07] look in the mirror.
[50:09] You experience yourself here
[50:11] looking from here
[50:13] at a mirror
[50:15] and seeing a face,
[50:17] a face that is changing, right?
[50:20] Doesn't look the same way as it did
[50:23] not that long ago and won't look the
[50:25] same
[50:27] some time from now and at some point way
[50:29] in the future it won't be a face at all.
[50:32] It'll just be a bunch of fundamental
[50:34] material being recycled.
[50:40] Now, this is can be uncomfortable
[50:43] because
[50:44] we have all been taught and our minds
[50:47] have been trained when we know something
[50:49] it's very concrete. This is what it is.
[50:54] But this is not so concrete
[50:57] and our concreteness limits the picture.
[51:00] Yeah.
[51:02] So,
[51:03] uh and I have changed from the name
[51:06] Anne's blog.
[51:08] Plan uh uh
[51:10] too long.
[51:12] Give and made no sense. So, yes, we have
[51:14] I all right. Okay, good. Yeah. I don't
[51:17] think there was a picture there before
[51:19] either when it was Anne's blog. I
[51:20] remember that.
[51:22] Yeah, I don't don't remember the picture
[51:24] there though.
[51:25] Uh so, anyway, welcome again. Welcome to
[51:29] the real you and now that we have
[51:31] thrown off
[51:32] the pseudonym.
[51:34] Russia, hello Russia. I need to know how
[51:37] I can feel the truth
[51:39] from
[51:41] my body.
[51:42] Mhm.
[51:48] Could you
[51:50] I'll make my biggest best guess here,
[51:51] but could you clarify that
[51:54] the feel the truth from [snorts]
[51:56] the body.
[51:58] Right. Now, the body doesn't isn't
[52:01] really the one that feels. Right.
[52:04] You, the consciousness in it is what is
[52:07] cognizing everything.
[52:10] And so, the truth uh
[52:14] uh
[52:14] speaking of the truth of the body or the
[52:17] experience and to you know,
[52:19] the experience of a living body, right?
[52:24] Or the the truth is you're not the body.
[52:28] You're the consciousness that animates
[52:30] the body.
[52:32] Right.
[52:33] And so, the body the consciousness
[52:36] experiences
[52:38] a body
[52:39] and the experience is true. We do have
[52:43] these experiences.
[52:47] And
[52:48] the question here is what is it that's
[52:52] having that experience?
[52:55] The truth isn't in the actual content of
[52:59] the experience.
[53:02] Nor is it in the experiencing of the
[53:04] experience. It is in the in that which
[53:07] is seeing. That which is
[53:10] experiencing,
[53:12] right?
[53:12] And it's very subtle, very subtle.
[53:15] Because everything
[53:16] everything that is experienced reports
[53:20] to
[53:21] here.
[53:24] The consciousness that's aware of it.
[53:27] Everything does.
[53:29] The eye isn't actually seeing, right?
[53:32] We say the eye sees.
[53:35] Looking at it. I mean, even physically,
[53:37] physiologically, the eye does not
[53:40] cognize what it's seeing. It's not
[53:43] placing any judgment or any value or any
[53:45] it's simply
[53:46] like a camera collecting light. That's
[53:48] all it does.
[53:50] The camera that is, you know, watching
[53:52] me right now is not seeing me.
[53:55] Right?
[53:57] This is subtle, right? Oh, what the
[53:59] camera sees. It's
[54:01] it's good. It's okay. It's a convention.
[54:03] It's harmless. But we recognize it's it
[54:06] as that which cognizes is not seeing
[54:09] anything. It's just a vehicle. It's just
[54:12] a instrument, a function.
[54:14] And so, the eye is merely collecting
[54:17] light
[54:18] and then it's going through all sorts of
[54:19] different phases and stuff, none of
[54:22] which
[54:23] uh is actually cognizing anything.
[54:26] >> [laughter]
[54:27] >> It's just stuff that's being manipulated
[54:30] and moved around and shoved together and
[54:32] had things associated with it and
[54:33] finally it gets to some place where
[54:36] there's cognizance. Well, that's you,
[54:38] right? So, you say I see it.
[54:43] Nothing else in that whole chain can say
[54:46] I
[54:47] see it because there's nothing else
[54:50] sentient there. There's no cognition
[54:52] there.
[54:55] So, the truth is
[54:59] the actual, the fact, the reality is
[55:02] only that which is cognizing.
[55:07] Everything else i- is being cognized.
[55:14] What is the actual nature
[55:18] of that which is cognizing because
[55:20] clearly that is real.
[55:25] The idea that the camera sees isn't
[55:28] real.
[55:29] It's
[55:30] It's an experience and we can use the
[55:32] word for its capacity for collecting
[55:35] light. Same with the eye.
[55:38] But only that which is cognizes.
[55:46] I hope I got near that for you, Russia.
[55:51] Uh Lena David, very few questions
[55:55] capable of being expressed arise these
[55:57] days. Wonderful.
[55:59] Which isn't great for live Q&A.
[56:01] [laughter]
[56:02] Well, be like we can be like Ramana and
[56:05] just sit together in silence. That
[56:07] works too. Yeah, it's weird, huh?
[56:09] I mean,
[56:11] in in media, you know,
[56:13] the the worst thing that can happen is
[56:16] silence, dead air air space. People just
[56:20] sitting around,
[56:21] you know, meditating i- isn't great for
[56:24] media, you know, it's kind of like
[56:25] having the wallpaper channel or
[56:27] something. It's just
[56:30] >> [laughter]
[56:31] >> But the process certainly continues with
[56:34] deep reflection on the thoughts,
[56:36] feelings, and sensations which arise.
[56:40] Sitting and listening
[56:43] also helps deepen any understanding
[56:46] here. Many thanks. Yeah.
[56:50] Yeah, it does.
[56:51] It even when you're like you are beyond
[56:55] where you need
[56:57] where you need to know something.
[57:00] But it does help
[57:03] in this environment with the teaching
[57:06] to Oh, yeah, that's right. Just just
[57:09] pull our attention back.
[57:11] Yeah.
[57:13] Sometimes I will I will put on a satsang
[57:16] from my own teacher.
[57:19] And he always opens his satsangs with
[57:22] this this welcome.
[57:25] You know,
[57:26] you know, Namaste. Welcome to satsang.
[57:29] And sometimes that's all I have to hear
[57:31] his voice going,
[57:33] "Namaste. Welcome to
[57:35] I turn it off. I'm good.
[57:40] Cuz i- it isn't even the words per per
[57:43] se, right? Just something to
[57:45] to to pull our attention back because
[57:48] i- it can seem so
[57:50] powerful, so
[57:52] alluring, right?
[57:55] When we can wake up in the morning and
[57:57] feel totally unclear, no clarity
[57:59] whatsoever,
[58:01] and you remember, "Oh, right.
[58:03] I'm beholding
[58:05] the
[58:06] absence of clarity.
[58:08] I see the clarity and the and the
[58:12] confusion. I see them both
[58:15] clearly.
[58:17] I am beyond that.
[58:18] And the attention goes that to there.
[58:21] Right?
[58:26] It's a good one for you. Something that
[58:29] Ramana said to uh It was actually he
[58:32] said it to the first European who made
[58:36] his way to
[58:37] to
[58:38] to the ashram to to speak to him
[58:42] in 1930 something.
[58:49] And he said, "I
[58:50] I
[58:51] I I use the words that the
[58:55] teacher
[58:57] gives to his closest students.
[59:00] From now onwards,
[59:03] in meditation,
[59:08] focus the thought of meditation
[59:11] not on the seeing
[59:13] or on that which is seen,
[59:17] but only on that which sees, unmovingly
[59:21] on that which sees.
[59:28] The
[59:30] even the the I am, all of it, whatever
[59:32] is seen.
[59:33] Yeah.
[59:35] If this resonates with anyone,
[59:38] take it up.
[59:41] And you'll notice that our attention is
[59:43] always being pulled back into the
[59:45] content, into what is being seen.
[59:51] And then
[59:52] then the seeing, right? Come back to
[59:54] this place where it Well, yeah, it's all
[59:56] being seen. There's seeing happening,
[59:59] and the seeing is
[1:00:00] is the same no matter what is being
[1:00:02] seen.
[1:00:05] And then you notice
[1:00:07] your attention is brought to the the
[1:00:10] place where
[1:00:12] well,
[1:00:13] even the seeing is being seen.
[1:00:21] The seeing is a function.
[1:00:24] >> [clears throat]
[1:00:30] >> And you look for that which is seeing.
[1:00:32] The seeing is
[1:00:34] reporting that somewhere.
[1:00:39] What
[1:00:41] I don't even like the word what anymore,
[1:00:44] what's that? Works for somebody, but
[1:00:46] this is resonating, which I think it
[1:00:47] will with you, too.
[1:00:49] That which sees. Now, there you don't
[1:00:51] wrap a who, you don't wrap a what,
[1:00:52] anything around, it's just
[1:00:54] whatever that is, it's seeing.
[1:00:58] And you can't help but notice, but that
[1:01:01] I'm seeing.
[1:01:05] So, just set aside the words I,
[1:01:08] that which sees.
[1:01:12] Very important.
[1:01:16] I think might be a good thing for you.
[1:01:18] Yeah.
[1:01:21] You guys uh
[1:01:22] yeah.
[1:01:23] Cuz you don't have any questions
[1:01:24] anymore. You don't need any more
[1:01:26] knowledge, and you know it.
[1:01:28] >> [laughter]
[1:01:29] >> You just just keep knock knock knocking
[1:01:32] on Nirvana's door.
[1:01:37] This little by little grace peels away
[1:01:39] all the remnants of the personal I.
[1:01:44] Right up to the point where
[1:01:46] cuz you know there's there's a point at
[1:01:48] which you you can surrender everything,
[1:01:50] but but how do you surrender yourself?
[1:01:57] How do you let go of I? How does the I
[1:01:59] vanish?
[1:02:04] This is kind of the the
[1:02:06] paradox of the crucifixion. Christ lent
[1:02:09] himself
[1:02:11] to to be completely
[1:02:15] to completely vanish, let go of
[1:02:17] everything including him.
[1:02:22] Into thy hands I commit my spirit. Just
[1:02:24] to
[1:02:25] to
[1:02:28] oneness with God, oneness with the
[1:02:32] absolute.
[1:02:35] >> [snorts]
[1:02:35] >> Means just one.
[1:02:41] There's me and God. One of us has got to
[1:02:42] disappear.
[1:02:47] That sense of I
[1:02:50] that appeared
[1:02:52] became I am the body in a world
[1:02:55] all the way to the return trip
[1:02:58] so that the sense I that arose
[1:03:02] at last
[1:03:04] subsides, and all that's left is the
[1:03:07] infinite one. Whether I, you, those are
[1:03:10] all irrelevant now.
[1:03:15] >> [sighs]
[1:03:34] >> Eva, you know
[1:03:38] I could just see you, Eva. You know,
[1:03:39] Jim,
[1:03:40] I'm it seems I saw this so clearly first
[1:03:43] time
[1:03:45] that I has nothing in common with
[1:03:47] suffering. No.
[1:03:49] It is simply the
[1:03:51] the cognition of experience.
[1:03:55] And
[1:03:57] the suffering of experience is actually
[1:04:01] part of the experience.
[1:04:05] Cuz everything we call suffering is just
[1:04:07] more movements of thought, right?
[1:04:10] The ultimate experiencer
[1:04:13] that is witnessing the whole thing on
[1:04:15] this screen is
[1:04:17] which is you
[1:04:18] are you suffering? You will suffer
[1:04:23] as long as that
[1:04:25] I
[1:04:27] remains
[1:04:29] identified with form.
[1:04:32] I
[1:04:33] am seeing it.
[1:04:35] Well, then who is that I that sees it?
[1:04:40] And is the seeing of something
[1:04:45] that is the perceiving in any any shape
[1:04:50] is it affected by what it sees?
[1:04:59] Or is that which is affected
[1:05:03] and upset, so suffering
[1:05:06] >> [snorts]
[1:05:06] >> anxious, pissed off, whatever,
[1:05:09] isn't that also just being seen by that
[1:05:13] same seeing?
[1:05:15] Is the seeing itself affected? Does it
[1:05:18] become less than seeing?
[1:05:24] These are
[1:05:25] you know,
[1:05:26] this kind of inquiry is not something
[1:05:28] you're going to run into at school.
[1:05:30] Most people you talk about this,
[1:05:33] yeah, whatever. There's no interest in
[1:05:35] it. If you're drawn to this, there's a
[1:05:37] reason.
[1:05:41] And I don't want it to seem like it's
[1:05:43] like it's totally
[1:05:45] intellectual. In fact, it's not
[1:05:46] intellectual at all. Intellect is is
[1:05:48] valuable because it can help us
[1:05:51] not get it can help us recognize that we
[1:05:55] live under with assumptions and beliefs.
[1:05:58] >> [laughter]
[1:05:59] >> And and can really be a a tool in the
[1:06:02] search for that which is not a belief.
[1:06:07] But the discovery is not intellectual.
[1:06:11] When
[1:06:13] that happens or as that happens, the
[1:06:14] intellect becomes more refined. It
[1:06:16] becomes a really great tool for giving
[1:06:18] expression to
[1:06:20] But you are not a thought. You're not a
[1:06:22] concept. You're not an idea.
[1:06:25] And no idea
[1:06:26] could possibly capture the reality of
[1:06:29] you, just like the idea of, I don't
[1:06:32] know, anything, a tree doesn't capture
[1:06:35] the tree.
[1:06:37] Not even close. It's a representation,
[1:06:39] an index, a pointer, nothing more.
[1:06:42] The tree itself stands on its own, and
[1:06:44] the experience of that is quite
[1:06:46] different.
[1:06:47] It's real.
[1:06:51] Ben Benjay,
[1:06:54] I get upset that I'm not meditating.
[1:06:58] Not journaling, not doing inner work,
[1:07:00] not doing enough.
[1:07:02] Even when I do do something, the same
[1:07:04] voice says I'm not doing I'm I'm not
[1:07:06] doing it. It's the wrong thing. Can't be
[1:07:09] pleased.
[1:07:10] Yeah. [snorts]
[1:07:11] Um okay. So, here's the deal.
[1:07:16] Who told you you're supposed to meditate
[1:07:19] or journal?
[1:07:20] Who told you you have to do this inner
[1:07:22] work?
[1:07:24] Anything that comes with a demand
[1:07:27] coercion or, you know, some kind of
[1:07:30] threat or you're going to lose out,
[1:07:32] right? It's kind of like the things
[1:07:34] get it while supplies last, right? That
[1:07:36] kind of nonsense.
[1:07:39] It's going to create artificial
[1:07:40] scarcity.
[1:07:41] That's not truth.
[1:07:45] Because it's not loving.
[1:07:48] If I have to be forced to meditate, it
[1:07:50] means I I don't want to I can't go
[1:07:51] away. I [snorts] don't want to do it.
[1:07:54] And
[1:07:55] if if you've never had
[1:07:57] the experience of meditation as it's
[1:08:00] really supposed to be
[1:08:02] you won't want to do it.
[1:08:04] >> [laughter]
[1:08:05] >> Hours and hours in funny clothes and
[1:08:06] weird positions, and like who's
[1:08:09] No, thank you.
[1:08:10] Right?
[1:08:12] So, notice there's just kind of this
[1:08:14] sense that you have to do something,
[1:08:16] that this is what it is or you're going
[1:08:17] to be a mess and left out in in the
[1:08:19] light. Just
[1:08:20] For one moment, my friend, just set that
[1:08:23] all to the side.
[1:08:24] All right? Just set it all to the side.
[1:08:27] It's like
[1:08:30] not being intimidated or pressured or
[1:08:33] threatened to do something.
[1:08:35] >> [clears throat]
[1:08:37] >> You just want to
[1:08:39] you want to find yourself, right?
[1:08:41] >> [clears throat]
[1:08:42] >> There's a feeling that something's
[1:08:44] missing.
[1:08:45] Right?
[1:08:47] And I want to find it.
[1:08:50] Right? It's really that simple.
[1:08:54] And so there's all sorts of people out
[1:08:56] there, oh, you got to meditate, and you
[1:08:57] got to do this, do this kind of work,
[1:08:58] and do this kind of work, and blah blah
[1:08:59] blah blah blah blah.
[1:09:01] And
[1:09:03] I say, no, you don't.
[1:09:07] Just stay with your actual desire.
[1:09:11] Right?
[1:09:13] Your heart is reaching for something.
[1:09:16] Right?
[1:09:17] And and you don't know what it is.
[1:09:20] So, put aside everything anybody has
[1:09:23] ever told you you're supposed to do
[1:09:27] in order to find that. And instead just
[1:09:30] Let's just sit together with this with
[1:09:32] this desire.
[1:09:34] All right?
[1:09:34] >> [clears throat]
[1:09:38] >> The real teacher never tells you what to
[1:09:40] do.
[1:09:41] Always just keeps pointing you back to
[1:09:43] yourself. What do you want? What's here
[1:09:45] What are you actually feeling?
[1:09:48] What are you reaching for?
[1:09:52] But somehow you feel, you know, I'm
[1:09:54] feeling cuz I didn't do this this and
[1:09:56] I'm feeling this because of this. Just
[1:10:00] It's okay?
[1:10:04] >> [laughter]
[1:10:06] >> It is so simple.
[1:10:10] I yearn for something.
[1:10:14] And uh
[1:10:16] nothing I've ever tried or done has
[1:10:18] quenched it. Do the meditation. It's
[1:10:20] just like
[1:10:21] It's just like
[1:10:23] It's
[1:10:24] It makes no sense to you.
[1:10:27] So, don't.
[1:10:28] Don't
[1:10:29] I honor you that if I'm not doing it
[1:10:32] because I don't want to. Okay. Okay,
[1:10:35] fine. Good. Fine. I don't want to do
[1:10:38] anything that's stupid either.
[1:10:40] I don't want to do anything that doesn't
[1:10:41] work.
[1:10:42] Why? Cuz somebody said I'm supposed to?
[1:10:47] How about this?
[1:10:51] What I teach is that
[1:10:53] just I want you to just look at
[1:10:56] yourself. I want you to put everything
[1:10:57] else aside.
[1:10:59] Put you at the center
[1:11:01] and just
[1:11:02] look. No beliefs, no ideas, no concepts.
[1:11:05] Just look.
[1:11:08] And what do you find?
[1:11:12] No No burdens.
[1:11:16] None of that.
[1:11:18] No rules.
[1:11:20] No conditions.
[1:11:22] >> [clears throat]
[1:11:23] >> Happiness is not
[1:11:26] you know, a carrot being held in front
[1:11:27] of the donkey. Oh, do all of this and
[1:11:29] then you'll get this.
[1:11:31] Just
[1:11:33] instead, let's honor you.
[1:11:38] >> [clears throat]
[1:11:40] >> Something in you
[1:11:43] moved you towards
[1:11:46] this kind of thing.
[1:11:48] The inner work, meditating, whatever it
[1:11:50] is. Something inside you moved that
[1:11:52] moved you towards that, right?
[1:11:54] Let's pay attention to that. Cuz that's
[1:11:56] real. That's you.
[1:11:58] We're not making it up.
[1:12:00] Right?
[1:12:00] It's a real thing. So, you It's really
[1:12:04] coming from you.
[1:12:06] And just be with that.
[1:12:09] So,
[1:12:12] let yourself feel that.
[1:12:15] Not run off to a
[1:12:16] to some solution to it and the like.
[1:12:20] As if it was a problem.
[1:12:22] >> [clears throat]
[1:12:24] >> So, oftentimes that
[1:12:28] the call, the invitation
[1:12:31] to the truth of you
[1:12:34] appears as a just a a discomfort with
[1:12:37] what is.
[1:12:40] Not because there's anything wrong with
[1:12:42] you,
[1:12:43] but because
[1:12:44] my sense of myself is simply too small
[1:12:47] to contain
[1:12:49] this.
[1:12:50] It needs
[1:12:52] It needs those boundaries expanded.
[1:12:59] I am
[1:13:02] more than happy to talk to you about it
[1:13:06] in in person. I do I offer free time to
[1:13:09] folks
[1:13:12] who are sincerely wanting to dig into
[1:13:14] this into this stuff.
[1:13:16] I'm
[1:13:21] There are useful tools for inner work
[1:13:25] and and the like. But they're only
[1:13:28] tools.
[1:13:31] And they're only as as good as the
[1:13:33] person who uses them, quite frankly.
[1:13:37] Some great seems like great Oh, this is
[1:13:39] such a great thing. It works so fine.
[1:13:42] Well, how come it didn't work for me?
[1:13:44] Because
[1:13:47] it's a bigger picture than that.
[1:13:54] Yeah.
[1:13:55] So,
[1:13:56] yeah, [clears throat] you're not doing
[1:13:57] enough.
[1:13:58] I'm not doing enough. That's all That
[1:14:01] voice is
[1:14:02] It doesn't matter how much you do. That
[1:14:03] voice is going to be there saying I
[1:14:05] Because that voice has nothing to do
[1:14:08] with what you're doing. It's just It's a
[1:14:10] deep program inside of you that that's
[1:14:13] all it knows how to say.
[1:14:15] Period. And it's never satisfied.
[1:14:20] But it's not you.
[1:14:22] That's just the conditioning of the
[1:14:23] system. Which you can come to see as
[1:14:26] simply not me.
[1:14:28] You're not broken.
[1:14:30] You're not.
[1:14:35] The sense of ourselves, we see ourselves
[1:14:37] as broken and therefore experience
[1:14:39] ourselves as if we are broken when
[1:14:40] you're not.
[1:14:45] And meditation? Hmm, simple.
[1:14:50] Just looking at that at myself.
[1:14:54] Looking to see what I can actually see.
[1:14:59] So, I do a meditation. Let's do a quick
[1:15:01] one right now. Just If you want to,
[1:15:03] close your eyes. Take a couple breaths.
[1:15:06] Let go of everything.
[1:15:08] You know nothing.
[1:15:09] You're here
[1:15:11] not to make something happen or to fix
[1:15:13] something, but to actually see what's
[1:15:16] here.
[1:15:19] I want to just see
[1:15:22] what's here without
[1:15:24] the interfere of you know, "Oh, got to
[1:15:26] fix it. Oh, this is a problem." No
[1:15:27] thoughts about it whatsoever. Just feel.
[1:15:30] Just feel your own presence.
[1:15:33] Whatever's there.
[1:15:35] There's tension, anxiousness, whatever
[1:15:37] whatever. Just for a moment, just don't
[1:15:39] do anything with it.
[1:15:42] Do nothing with it. Just feel it.
[1:15:49] No
[1:15:49] No attempt to even fix it. Oh God, poor
[1:15:53] body and poor heart.
[1:15:55] Poor you.
[1:15:57] Just the pressure. Fix this. Fix this.
[1:15:59] Fix this. Huh?
[1:16:01] Yeah.
[1:16:02] That's when I give my my most beautiful
[1:16:04] man mantra is
[1:16:06] "Ah, it.
[1:16:08] Go fix yourself."
[1:16:12] No pressure.
[1:16:14] No mission. No goal. No responsibility.
[1:16:17] Just
[1:16:18] look what's here.
[1:16:25] And notice that you can.
[1:16:30] Notice that there's very much something
[1:16:32] here.
[1:16:34] It sees all the thoughts. It sees the
[1:16:36] feelings. It sees the sensations. It
[1:16:39] experiences all of that.
[1:16:48] And at [clears throat] the same time
[1:16:50] it isn't that.
[1:16:54] Again, this isn't a belief. I'm not I'm
[1:16:55] asking you to believe anything. Look for
[1:16:57] yourself.
[1:16:59] You see the thoughts.
[1:17:02] You feel those feelings.
[1:17:05] You feel those sensations of the body.
[1:17:09] All of it.
[1:17:11] Paying no attention to
[1:17:14] to what they are labeling them or what
[1:17:16] or what's supposed to happen with them.
[1:17:18] And instead just notice.
[1:17:21] Yeah, I am seeing
[1:17:23] all of them.
[1:17:27] So, whatever I am
[1:17:33] it's it it it it's something other than
[1:17:36] that.
[1:17:38] And this is just here.
[1:17:43] The seeing is just I didn't start it. I
[1:17:44] didn't have to, you know,
[1:17:47] turn the ignition and start it up. It's
[1:17:51] It's I'm just here.
[1:17:53] It's effortless.
[1:17:57] Again.
[1:17:59] Uh
[1:18:01] It's not a thought, right? I'm not
[1:18:03] putting a belief in your head. I'm just
[1:18:04] inviting you to look. See for yourself.
[1:18:11] And notice that that's that seeing, that
[1:18:14] kind of presence.
[1:18:16] Aware of all of it. Not dismissing any
[1:18:18] of it.
[1:18:19] Not
[1:18:20] you know, saying bad illusion or
[1:18:22] anything like that.
[1:18:26] But is there anything wrong with that?
[1:18:30] Is there anything there that needs to be
[1:18:31] changed or fixed or
[1:18:34] Yeah, there's stuff happening.
[1:18:38] It has to be dealt with. But
[1:18:40] but you
[1:18:43] I'm I'm here seeing all of this.
[1:18:48] And without any reference to any of
[1:18:50] that.
[1:18:51] Is there anything wrong here? Is there
[1:18:53] anything wrong with you?
[1:19:05] Take a breath. You can open your eyes if
[1:19:07] you want. It's so simple.
[1:19:09] So simple. That's meditation.
[1:19:12] At least
[1:19:13] I've not found
[1:19:15] any approach to meditation
[1:19:18] that is simpler or or more direct.
[1:19:23] Only to see
[1:19:25] what is actually here because what's
[1:19:28] really here must be the truth.
[1:19:32] And the whole point
[1:19:34] of the quest you found yourself on
[1:19:37] is to find the truth of you.
[1:19:40] Yeah?
[1:19:43] I hope that helps.
[1:19:46] Ah, hello Fatima.
[1:19:49] Great to see you again. No, there's no
[1:19:51] possible
[1:19:54] Loss isn't illusion I think you meant.
[1:19:57] Yeah, it is.
[1:19:59] Nothing can ever really be lost.
[1:20:08] Nothing
[1:20:10] ever had a beginning
[1:20:12] or an end.
[1:20:13] They're only
[1:20:16] the
[1:20:17] the infinite outpouring
[1:20:20] of that which has no beginning and no
[1:20:23] end, which is the self.
[1:20:25] Yourself.
[1:20:29] Papa
[1:20:31] Owl.
[1:20:32] How do I'm G and everyone? I probably
[1:20:34] don't notice it G, but in an informal
[1:20:37] setting like having a personal deep
[1:20:39] conversation with someone.
[1:20:44] How would you heal someone of the
[1:20:45] troubles
[1:20:47] they're dealing with without going into
[1:20:49] any specific technique like showing
[1:20:51] their nervous system that they're not at
[1:20:53] fault any longer by just having a normal
[1:20:56] conversation.
[1:21:06] I'm not going any specific technique.
[1:21:17] When you're
[1:21:19] in a position
[1:21:21] and you're having a a conversation with
[1:21:23] someone, maybe a deep conversation with
[1:21:25] somebody.
[1:21:28] First thing to notice is that just
[1:21:30] because of the work you've done on
[1:21:31] yourself, the place you've gotten to in
[1:21:33] your spiritual development.
[1:21:36] There's a deep a deep desire to
[1:21:39] alleviate suffering especially when
[1:21:42] you've come to see how it happens.
[1:21:44] And what the cause of suffering is
[1:21:46] and the way out of suffering.
[1:21:49] Once you've seen it and experienced
[1:21:51] tasted it for yourself knowing that it's
[1:21:53] real,
[1:21:54] you can't help but want
[1:21:57] to share it and you can't help but
[1:21:59] notice
[1:22:01] how
[1:22:04] those you care about, to those you
[1:22:07] that are
[1:22:09] are suffering
[1:22:12] and
[1:22:15] and don't know the way out of it.
[1:22:18] You see it.
[1:22:19] It's right there. And you you know what?
[1:22:21] You just do this and this.
[1:22:23] >> [snorts]
[1:22:23] >> I found
[1:22:25] personal experience that doesn't work
[1:22:28] to try to lead them somewhere
[1:22:31] like that.
[1:22:33] Because
[1:22:35] you might in some circumstance
[1:22:38] offer in the form of technique.
[1:22:42] You may find somebody who's already
[1:22:44] spiritually mature enough that you can
[1:22:47] do it together. Look let's look together
[1:22:48] at this. Let's see where its origin
[1:22:50] where did it come from.
[1:22:51] Others not so much, so you can use a a
[1:22:54] technique because that's familiar to
[1:22:57] them.
[1:22:59] Right? They can grasp a technique as a
[1:23:02] healing modality.
[1:23:05] Whereas they can't grasp
[1:23:09] self inquiry at all let alone as a
[1:23:11] healing modality.
[1:23:14] And sometimes
[1:23:16] can't do any of that.
[1:23:21] But whether you use a modality or even
[1:23:24] self inquiry
[1:23:28] the the only real healing agent is you.
[1:23:34] Your level
[1:23:36] your
[1:23:37] the point at which you have grown to,
[1:23:39] the things that you have seen
[1:23:41] the the parts of the
[1:23:44] of you that of the false you that have
[1:23:47] dissolved and been replaced with the
[1:23:49] reality of you.
[1:23:51] Make your presence.
[1:23:54] Your presence is the healer.
[1:23:57] And the more you're present
[1:23:59] and
[1:24:00] the the more powerful that energy is
[1:24:05] the more
[1:24:06] those are drawn to it and you have to do
[1:24:07] anything because the the energy of
[1:24:10] somebody who is suffering is simply
[1:24:12] looking for place
[1:24:14] where it's safe.
[1:24:16] And if you are that place
[1:24:20] the energy will find it even if the
[1:24:22] person thinks it's got to be an external
[1:24:24] environment. It's got to be some place
[1:24:25] where I am I can sit and hang out. It's
[1:24:28] a physical place of safety I'm going to
[1:24:30] get to.
[1:24:32] It's actually an inner state that is
[1:24:37] that is discovered
[1:24:39] and then and then abided in and then
[1:24:41] become.
[1:24:43] And the more you are that, the more the
[1:24:45] energy at the energetic level it's going
[1:24:48] to gravitate towards you and feel the
[1:24:50] safety. And they will feel the safety.
[1:24:54] Maybe not consciously, but enough that
[1:24:58] probably can't even articulate it, but
[1:25:00] without that feeling that safety no deep
[1:25:02] conversation could possibly happen.
[1:25:05] Could it?
[1:25:07] Because it would be it can't get deep.
[1:25:09] Can't get intimate because
[1:25:12] it's not safe enough. I can't reveal
[1:25:13] myself.
[1:25:14] The very fact that it's that
[1:25:17] that it can happen is an indication that
[1:25:19] there's already a space of safety.
[1:25:25] So that's
[1:25:27] really what heals.
[1:25:30] Remember Ramana
[1:25:32] for the most part
[1:25:35] didn't talk.
[1:25:39] In fact, he only talked 10 or 20% of the
[1:25:42] time. Most of the time he just sat there
[1:25:45] completely aware and he he would say
[1:25:49] that
[1:25:50] in the state he would
[1:25:52] inviting us to was one in which you're
[1:25:54] aware of all of it. You see it, the
[1:25:56] actions of the people and everything.
[1:25:58] Right?
[1:26:00] And you see it from here.
[1:26:03] Nothing to comment about.
[1:26:05] >> [clears throat]
[1:26:06] >> Nothing to intervene.
[1:26:08] Every now and then he'd say something.
[1:26:10] Every now and then he'd open it up and
[1:26:11] people could ask him a question.
[1:26:15] >> [cough and clears throat]
[1:26:15] >> Excuse me.
[1:26:20] The technique
[1:26:23] that someone uses
[1:26:25] is not the healer.
[1:26:28] >> [laughter]
[1:26:30] [snorts]
[1:26:32] >> You say, "Oh, it's EFT. Oh, it really
[1:26:34] works."
[1:26:36] And I'm depending on who I'm talking to,
[1:26:38] talk about how it works, but I'll talk
[1:26:39] about why it works and the like.
[1:26:42] But it isn't the technique that works.
[1:26:46] It is the It is the quality of the
[1:26:48] presence.
[1:26:50] And by presence I mean you're aware
[1:26:53] you're aware of what's going on, you're
[1:26:54] aware of yourself
[1:26:56] and you're not rejecting anything.
[1:26:59] You're not pushing anything away.
[1:27:01] Practicing the the this
[1:27:03] being able to allow your own feelings.
[1:27:08] Allow them to be there without
[1:27:10] immediately getting into some kind of a
[1:27:13] thing with them where you got to do
[1:27:14] something or other.
[1:27:16] >> [clears throat]
[1:27:17] >> To just allow them.
[1:27:20] Opens up this presence.
[1:27:22] You
[1:27:23] you know that
[1:27:24] oh the feelings themselves aren't the
[1:27:26] problem. It's all the ideas and thoughts
[1:27:29] we have about them that are the problem.
[1:27:31] >> [laughter]
[1:27:33] >> As you get that, you're more and more
[1:27:35] allowing of your own feelings, which
[1:27:37] means you're allowing of others.
[1:27:40] That's what happens.
[1:27:43] And
[1:27:44] since being being sensitive, you
[1:27:46] probably notice at some point feelings
[1:27:48] you're having and go, "Oh, that's not
[1:27:49] me. It's him."
[1:27:51] You'll feel what others are feeling. And
[1:27:54] and you'll
[1:27:55] do with it exactly what you've learned
[1:27:57] to do with your own and that's just let
[1:27:58] them be there.
[1:28:02] And that space of of of safety, that
[1:28:06] space of presence is just love, which is
[1:28:09] felt
[1:28:10] in
[1:28:12] in the space of of love. Nothing
[1:28:16] unlike love can stand. It just has to
[1:28:19] dissolve.
[1:28:23] Sometimes immediately and miraculously,
[1:28:25] sometimes just gradually, gently, not
[1:28:28] even noticeably.
[1:28:29] >> [laughter]
[1:28:32] >> You yourself have have experiences
[1:28:34] things kind of dissolving and
[1:28:37] you noticed it after the fact. Right?
[1:28:44] You don't need to
[1:28:46] jump right in and explain all these
[1:28:49] things to them.
[1:28:53] I know you want to.
[1:28:54] >> [laughter]
[1:28:56] >> We're burning up to help others.
[1:29:00] But
[1:29:01] let it take root. Let it take such deep
[1:29:04] roots in you that you don't even feel
[1:29:06] that need to help others. It just
[1:29:09] happens
[1:29:11] because
[1:29:15] because it's you.
[1:29:17] You have become it.
[1:29:21] Not even becoming, just I am I am that.
[1:29:24] I am that very love. I am that space.
[1:29:30] >> [snorts]
[1:29:31] >> And everybody's welcome here.
[1:29:33] You're also welcome to not come here.
[1:29:39] Totally open.
[1:29:43] Oh boy, how many have we got here?
[1:29:45] Oh jeez.
[1:29:50] Fortunately, folks having to go. I'm
[1:29:52] just kind of Oh, nay. Lovely, lovely,
[1:29:54] lovely. Good to see you. Just want to
[1:29:57] say hello to everyone.
[1:30:01] Well, just silence. Yeah, Mr. Satsang,
[1:30:04] great to see you again. Yes.
[1:30:06] Well, I keep inviting and many to the
[1:30:08] weekly Satsangs, you know.
[1:30:11] I have to give the bulk of my attention
[1:30:13] to to the students, those who are
[1:30:15] relying on me, too, huh?
[1:30:17] You know, yeah.
[1:30:18] To take them there.
[1:30:20] So,
[1:30:21] I should Oh god, I should say.
[1:30:24] >> [laughter]
[1:30:26] >> I'm actually doing
[1:30:28] uh an uh
[1:30:30] uh a live event next week. I won't be
[1:30:32] doing Satsang cuz I'm going to be
[1:30:33] teaching a class
[1:30:36] just for women. And uh
[1:30:39] been asked to to do that numerous times,
[1:30:41] and so I'm doing it next next Sunday.
[1:30:45] Unfortunately,
[1:30:46] I don't have
[1:30:50] uh
[1:30:51] the brilliant marketer that I am, I
[1:30:52] don't have a place where you can sign up
[1:30:54] yet. So, so tell you what. Um I'm going
[1:30:56] to put this Christina, if you don't
[1:30:58] mind.
[1:31:01] Stina
[1:31:03] at gpwalsh
[1:31:06] dot com. I think I spelled it right.
[1:31:08] Yeah, Christina, yes.
[1:31:11] Send an email to Christina, who is
[1:31:15] uh
[1:31:16] keeping me from
[1:31:17] com- falling apart at the seams.
[1:31:20] And
[1:31:21] we'll get you the the info about being
[1:31:23] part of it. I uh
[1:31:25] the sliding scale. Anybody can come. I'm
[1:31:28] asking for certain amount of money,
[1:31:31] right? But you don't have to pay that.
[1:31:32] In fact, if you don't have anything, you
[1:31:34] can come anyway. This will be completely
[1:31:36] uh donation-based with some suggestions
[1:31:39] of stuff that would really help me if I
[1:31:41] get that.
[1:31:42] And it's just the
[1:31:44] it is it's
[1:31:47] it's both emotional healing and inquiry,
[1:31:49] and we'll be just the unique challenges
[1:31:53] that that that women face, and the
[1:31:56] unique sense of of finding oneself. Uh
[1:32:01] Both both the reality of you
[1:32:03] and the functional you in the world uh
[1:32:07] as a woman.
[1:32:08] >> [clears throat]
[1:32:09] >> I've done them for men as well, and
[1:32:11] uh and I do find that it's very useful
[1:32:15] to have a setting in which it can be
[1:32:17] looked at just from that perspective.
[1:32:19] All right. Even though
[1:32:21] the soul has no gender. Uh the reality
[1:32:24] is
[1:32:25] is beyond that, but yet our experience
[1:32:29] brings out certain qualities and certain
[1:32:32] relationships with the culture and
[1:32:34] certain ways of self-identification
[1:32:37] that are very limiting and harmful.
[1:32:40] It's useful to look at them through the
[1:32:43] through the lens of gender. So, that's
[1:32:45] what I'm going to do. And uh
[1:32:47] Christina there will uh receive She's
[1:32:51] Oh, she's here. Hi. Hi, she is. Um
[1:32:54] Uh
[1:32:55] so,
[1:32:56] uh
[1:32:57] uh So, there it is.
[1:33:01] There it is. That's my form of uh being
[1:33:04] the great marketer and getting the word
[1:33:06] out. Oh jeez. Oh jeez.
[1:33:10] Who knows? I don't even post as many
[1:33:12] videos on YouTube.
[1:33:14] And
[1:33:15] and and
[1:33:18] It
[1:33:20] so much effort uh and
[1:33:23] uh
[1:33:24] with not a whole lot of payback, and
[1:33:26] you're completely at the mercy of
[1:33:28] YouTube, right?
[1:33:32] Completely.
[1:33:34] You know, I went to having, you know,
[1:33:35] around 100 people at my Satsangs
[1:33:38] regularly. And then one day it dropped
[1:33:40] down to 40.
[1:33:42] And then one day dropped down to about,
[1:33:44] you know, 20. 20 right now.
[1:33:47] What changed? Nothing.
[1:33:50] The algorithm changed
[1:33:53] for YouTube, which how they decide
[1:33:56] what they sug- sug- should suggest to
[1:33:59] people.
[1:34:04] And
[1:34:05] the algorithm
[1:34:07] just kind of like,
[1:34:09] Yeah, we're going to suggest them that
[1:34:11] much. So, I
[1:34:13] I just rely on
[1:34:15] word of mouth.
[1:34:16] You know, if you like this,
[1:34:19] tell a friend.
[1:34:21] So, in the meantime, if you want to if
[1:34:24] you are
[1:34:26] uh a lady and would like to uh explore
[1:34:29] some of this with some other very
[1:34:31] wonderful wonderful uh and uh
[1:34:34] sincere and
[1:34:36] >> [clears throat]
[1:34:36] >> supportive ladies,
[1:34:39] join us.
[1:34:41] Victoria, not sure if it was sadness.
[1:34:44] Oh, good.
[1:34:46] It is this feeling of me being here and
[1:34:48] my circumstances being totally random
[1:34:52] and not as a result of some divine
[1:34:54] wisdom. I came from nothing and and
[1:34:56] going to nothing.
[1:34:58] Uh
[1:35:01] Well,
[1:35:02] yeah, it's
[1:35:03] it's not so Feel more into it without
[1:35:06] any thoughts whatsoever.
[1:35:08] Just feeling I'm here. Yeah.
[1:35:11] Circumstances
[1:35:13] I don't see the order any order in them,
[1:35:16] although I can see order in them. I
[1:35:17] mean, it's not totally chaotic. It's
[1:35:19] not, you know,
[1:35:21] suddenly my head becomes a pumpkin.
[1:35:24] Right? I mean, it's like there is some
[1:35:25] continuity to it all.
[1:35:30] Random seeming as if
[1:35:34] Look Look more closely at the feeling.
[1:35:37] All right.
[1:35:39] Let's
[1:35:40] Okay, it's
[1:35:41] random. Is that really accurate?
[1:35:47] I'm not seeing divine wisdom in them in
[1:35:49] them. Okay.
[1:35:52] And
[1:35:55] Now, is that because it isn't there or
[1:35:56] is because
[1:35:58] I have a an idea of what that divine
[1:36:00] wisdom should be? Shouldn't the divine
[1:36:02] wisdom look a whole lot more like what I
[1:36:04] want?
[1:36:05] No, really.
[1:36:07] This isn't a criticism. It's just to to
[1:36:10] to really look through through eyes that
[1:36:13] are clean.
[1:36:14] All right. I'm not [clears throat]
[1:36:15] trying to read anything into it. All
[1:36:17] right. I don't see the order in it. I
[1:36:19] don't see the wisdom.
[1:36:21] And it's not making any sense to me.
[1:36:24] All right.
[1:36:25] Okay. So,
[1:36:27] maybe though, it does make sense, but
[1:36:31] I'm not looking at it from that
[1:36:32] perspective.
[1:36:34] It's possible, right? I'm not saying
[1:36:36] it's absolutely true. I'm just saying
[1:36:37] it's possible.
[1:36:40] Now, I came from nothing
[1:36:42] and going to nothing.
[1:36:47] It's more like emptiness and what's the
[1:36:50] point? Like an atheist point of view,
[1:36:52] which is normally not natural to me.
[1:36:56] There's no specialness or destiny to
[1:36:58] accomplish.
[1:36:59] Just nature doing its job and our little
[1:37:02] minds trying to trying to to grasp any
[1:37:06] any sense of meaning.
[1:37:09] Good.
[1:37:11] Good.
[1:37:12] Good.
[1:37:14] I say good because I I really want you
[1:37:16] to look at this very This is really deep
[1:37:19] and really fundamental and existential.
[1:37:23] Yes, the materialistic view is nothing.
[1:37:29] Consciousness, nothing.
[1:37:32] Oblivion. Total nonexistence.
[1:37:39] And
[1:37:40] for most,
[1:37:41] that that's terrifying.
[1:37:46] And it's a nihilistic
[1:37:49] the consequence of that of that view of
[1:37:52] things is
[1:37:54] nothing has any meaning.
[1:37:57] Nothing matters.
[1:38:02] I'm just going to I am
[1:38:05] everything's going to dust. It's true.
[1:38:09] From that perspective, it's true.
[1:38:12] How long 5 more billion years this our
[1:38:14] sun has, in which case, the earth's
[1:38:16] gone. Everything gone.
[1:38:23] I'll be
[1:38:25] My kids won't remember me when I'm gone.
[1:38:27] My grandkids will.
[1:38:31] After that, there'll be no memory of me,
[1:38:32] except what's passed on. Oh, yeah, they
[1:38:34] were like this, like this, and then
[1:38:37] generation or two later, I don't exist
[1:38:39] anymore. Nothing.
[1:38:42] Total oblivion.
[1:38:46] Now, we can look at that.
[1:38:50] And in a sense, it's true. This, you
[1:38:53] know,
[1:38:54] even if you if you buy the idea of
[1:38:57] multiple lives,
[1:38:58] reincarnation and the like,
[1:39:03] your past life and everyone prior to
[1:39:05] that, gone. Poof.
[1:39:07] >> [gasps]
[1:39:08] [sighs]
[1:39:09] >> Like a dream, gone.
[1:39:14] So, [snorts] if there is meaning to be
[1:39:18] found,
[1:39:19] it's not there.
[1:39:20] >> [clears throat]
[1:39:23] >> And it's And it's significant less.
[1:39:26] Really, is that all there is?
[1:39:29] Then,
[1:39:31] where did the
[1:39:33] this desire to find meaning even come
[1:39:36] from?
[1:39:37] It's weird because if that's the case,
[1:39:40] the
[1:39:43] why would there be within us this this
[1:39:46] urge towards
[1:39:48] meaning,
[1:39:50] significance,
[1:39:52] value?
[1:39:53] Um
[1:39:54] there's plenty of ways to explain it
[1:39:56] away.
[1:39:58] But it does seem kind of strange that in
[1:40:01] the the a universe the whole function
[1:40:05] that is from that perspective completely
[1:40:07] void of any of that, that this urge
[1:40:11] towards it would emerge.
[1:40:13] It makes no sense.
[1:40:16] You know,
[1:40:17] it's like a frog giving birth to a cat.
[1:40:20] It doesn't make any sense.
[1:40:22] It's like It's like
[1:40:24] It How does it come out of that?
[1:40:29] Unless there's some seed in there.
[1:40:35] So, [snorts] meaning,
[1:40:38] value, significance.
[1:40:42] If we look at it from that perspective,
[1:40:44] which is the perspective the world
[1:40:46] operates under, what's your value?
[1:40:48] What's your market value? You inherently
[1:40:51] have no value.
[1:40:52] It's only with the skills you've learned
[1:40:54] or the connections you got or everything
[1:40:56] is looked at transactionally, right?
[1:41:00] Mhm.
[1:41:01] The
[1:41:02] Mhm. Nobody asks you, well, yeah, you
[1:41:05] that's great you can do that, but who
[1:41:06] are you? Nobody asked that. Who are you?
[1:41:11] Where do I find inherent value?
[1:41:16] The culture or economics? You don't have
[1:41:18] any.
[1:41:20] You don't have inherent value. You You
[1:41:22] have whatever value
[1:41:25] with your skills and abilities and stuff
[1:41:28] you can do that you can offer
[1:41:30] in the marketplace. Your value is
[1:41:32] totally relative.
[1:41:35] You know,
[1:41:36] you know, some
[1:41:37] one point, you know,
[1:41:40] all the guidance counselors in high
[1:41:42] school were trying to, you know,
[1:41:44] to take the kids and say, oh, you
[1:41:45] should, you know, go and be a lawyer,
[1:41:47] right?
[1:41:48] Now, there's such a glut of lawyers
[1:41:50] that, you know,
[1:41:51] >> [laughter]
[1:41:52] >> they're not making the great bucks
[1:41:53] anymore in the
[1:41:54] You know, it used to be that uh
[1:41:56] a kid graduating with his That was
[1:41:59] computer science, right? Get computer
[1:42:00] science degree and then everybody kids
[1:42:02] in computer science and
[1:42:04] and, you know,
[1:42:05] just graduate from computer science with
[1:42:07] decent grades and you got a $100,000 a
[1:42:09] year
[1:42:10] job, right? And then the dot bomb
[1:42:13] happens.
[1:42:15] >> [laughter]
[1:42:16] >> Everything just the whole industry
[1:42:17] collapses and all of a sudden you've got
[1:42:19] all these people with this degree and
[1:42:21] they're living in their parents'
[1:42:23] basement, you know, just trying to find
[1:42:25] jobs on
[1:42:27] you know, Fiverr or something, right?
[1:42:31] That value is just relative.
[1:42:35] And just like everything has to have
[1:42:37] cause and effect,
[1:42:39] right? Cause and effect, cause and
[1:42:40] effect. There's got to be something that
[1:42:42] isn't a cause, that doesn't have a
[1:42:45] cause,
[1:42:46] right? That just is.
[1:42:48] Inherent what it is.
[1:42:52] So, what's the point?
[1:42:54] If you can see the utter meaninglessness
[1:42:56] of this,
[1:42:58] cuz it is from that perspective,
[1:43:00] there isn't any meaning in it.
[1:43:05] The only thing we can find there is
[1:43:07] like, okay, I suppose it's
[1:43:10] You see?
[1:43:12] There's no concrete [clears throat]
[1:43:14] foundation for any morality.
[1:43:19] And
[1:43:20] And so someone would say, you know, I
[1:43:21] think it's probably better if we help
[1:43:23] each other and get along
[1:43:25] and not kill each other.
[1:43:27] Where did that come from?
[1:43:29] There's nothing in There's nothing in
[1:43:31] this that would give that. But yet,
[1:43:34] don't you have a sense of Yeah, that's
[1:43:36] right.
[1:43:37] It It's just
[1:43:39] It's not coming from anywhere. It's not
[1:43:41] a philosophy. It's not relative even.
[1:43:45] It isn't referencing something else.
[1:43:46] It's just I don't know. It's
[1:43:49] It's true.
[1:43:50] Self-referenced.
[1:43:54] You're looking for [snorts]
[1:43:57] your
[1:43:59] meaning, which really means you're
[1:44:00] looking for you.
[1:44:02] You're looking for a you
[1:44:05] that is not just at the whims of this
[1:44:08] and that, but has an actual concrete
[1:44:12] reality to it.
[1:44:14] I am this.
[1:44:16] And that's why
[1:44:18] I feel this way. I am this. That's why I
[1:44:20] know I'm valuable.
[1:44:22] Cuz of what I am.
[1:44:24] Not because of skills I learned
[1:44:27] that tomorrow you don't want them
[1:44:29] anymore.
[1:44:31] And so
[1:44:31] I I'm out on the street or something.
[1:44:34] Are you following this?
[1:44:40] You started with nothing. You started in
[1:44:43] as nothing and were as nothing. You
[1:44:45] started as emptiness.
[1:44:47] Right?
[1:44:48] Not as a form.
[1:44:51] Take form and you and you'll lose your
[1:44:53] form. Aren't Are you still there? That's
[1:44:56] the question to probe.
[1:44:58] What's here
[1:45:00] that isn't constantly changing, that
[1:45:04] isn't relative?
[1:45:06] That's what this search is for, the you
[1:45:08] that is not relative. It is not in
[1:45:11] reference to something else. It is
[1:45:13] concrete.
[1:45:15] Find that, you find your meaning.
[1:45:19] Cuz otherwise even meaning is just What
[1:45:21] does it mean to you? Well, right now it
[1:45:23] means that because it's important, but
[1:45:24] then I don't want that anymore and so it
[1:45:26] doesn't mean that anymore. You see,
[1:45:28] that's all. That's all relative, too.
[1:45:31] We're looking for that which is.
[1:45:34] In other words, you.
[1:45:40] Christina said, oh, nothingness is
[1:45:43] not as a concept of empty, zero,
[1:45:46] sterile. Somethingness full of you and
[1:45:49] nothing but you. Not as body, not as
[1:45:51] form, not as mind,
[1:45:53] but as being.
[1:45:55] You are.
[1:45:56] That is the point. You are the point.
[1:46:00] Well said.
[1:46:01] You are the meaning.
[1:46:06] We think there's an absolute meaning
[1:46:08] that comes out from outside of
[1:46:09] ourselves. But even as human beings,
[1:46:11] right?
[1:46:13] I give this meaning.
[1:46:17] I see other people doing videos and like
[1:46:19] and they're just kind of like sitting
[1:46:21] around and
[1:46:22] you know, I'm just like, no, I I
[1:46:25] play with the lights and the
[1:46:28] >> [laughter]
[1:46:28] >> the sound and everything ridiculously. I
[1:46:31] don't need to.
[1:46:33] But that has meaning to me.
[1:46:34] I want to. So, it's meaningful to me. Do
[1:46:38] I need anything more than that?
[1:46:41] And the meaning, of course, that is
[1:46:44] meaning being how important is it, it
[1:46:46] shifts [snorts] with me.
[1:46:49] Shift how I'm doing things, what I'm
[1:46:51] interested in that and
[1:46:53] at that point. So, meaning isn't a
[1:46:55] constant.
[1:46:56] But you are.
[1:46:59] Cuz no matter how you see yourself, what
[1:47:01] has meaning, what then doesn't have
[1:47:02] meaning, all these things that are
[1:47:03] changing,
[1:47:05] can you find in all of that that which
[1:47:08] isn't changing? You are there
[1:47:12] experiencing all the change.
[1:47:16] You are the changeless center at the
[1:47:18] center of the universe.
[1:47:23] And the meaning,
[1:47:27] purpose. You don't have a purpose.
[1:47:31] Purpose is something that you serve.
[1:47:35] You simply are.
[1:47:38] There's no purpose to being.
[1:47:40] Cuz it had no beginning. There was
[1:47:41] nothing there that said, I think this
[1:47:43] should happen and then made it happen.
[1:47:45] There's no
[1:47:46] nothing like that.
[1:47:48] You are. You are what is.
[1:47:52] You need to exist for any reason.
[1:47:56] You exist.
[1:47:58] It's the ground of being.
[1:48:01] And it's you.
[1:48:12] And very useful.
[1:48:14] Yes, very helpful. Thanks. No pictures
[1:48:16] before either.
[1:48:19] I think it's a huge job to release the
[1:48:21] blocks in my life.
[1:48:23] I lost my job and I felt so scared. Some
[1:48:25] story repeated itself.
[1:48:28] Um
[1:48:31] >> [sighs]
[1:48:31] >> No, it's not.
[1:48:33] >> [laughter]
[1:48:35] >> It seems that way because we we don't
[1:48:38] understand the under [clears throat] the
[1:48:40] stuff underneath. It's not visible.
[1:48:44] That creates the blocks, sustains the
[1:48:46] blocks,
[1:48:48] and then
[1:48:50] gets frustrated because it can't remove
[1:48:52] the block. Of course, it can't remove
[1:48:54] the block. It doesn't know what the
[1:48:55] actual cause is.
[1:48:57] All I do all day every day is remove
[1:49:00] blocks for people because
[1:49:02] they don't really exist as a fact. They
[1:49:05] exist as a state.
[1:49:08] And every state is sustained only as
[1:49:12] long as you believe it.
[1:49:15] And
[1:49:16] and the the
[1:49:18] the underlying belief
[1:49:22] is the sense of identity.
[1:49:26] Because the belief
[1:49:29] uh
[1:49:30] not only is the belief just a belief,
[1:49:33] the believer is also just a belief.
[1:49:40] Ocean how am I able to do the releasing,
[1:49:43] but sometimes I lose hope. But then
[1:49:45] again, I get up and somehow I manage to
[1:49:47] trust that it's my way out of these
[1:49:49] repetitive experiences.
[1:49:51] Yes, how do I trust life?
[1:49:54] Uh
[1:49:59] Let me invite you to my classes.
[1:50:01] >> [laughter]
[1:50:05] >> Uh
[1:50:05] it's what I do.
[1:50:08] Not just through non-dual self-inquiry.
[1:50:11] It gets to there, but the kind of things
[1:50:13] you're experiencing require some
[1:50:16] em- emotional preparation, emotional
[1:50:18] healing, all right, to get a handle on
[1:50:21] it and
[1:50:22] and uh you'll find it's actually not all
[1:50:25] that hard. It's different.
[1:50:28] It brings about some really
[1:50:30] s-
[1:50:31] some serious changes and
[1:50:33] transformations.
[1:50:35] But it isn't that hard.
[1:50:38] There's several people here who can
[1:50:39] testify to that.
[1:50:41] Yeah.
[1:50:43] So,
[1:50:44] use that same
[1:50:45] email address. Want you to throw your
[1:50:47] email address in there again, Christina,
[1:50:50] to to reach out. And we can talk about
[1:50:53] it and I can show you what we can do.
[1:50:55] All right.
[1:50:56] And uh I don't charge a lot. In fact,
[1:50:58] fact for a lot of folks who can't afford
[1:51:00] it, I
[1:51:01] I I charge even less.
[1:51:04] >> [laughter]
[1:51:06] >> So far, the money's been adequate to
[1:51:09] keep me in my little room here.
[1:51:11] Uh so I don't have to try to make any
[1:51:14] more than that, but
[1:51:15] uh
[1:51:16] yeah.
[1:51:17] >> [clears throat]
[1:51:18] >> We're here to heal.
[1:51:20] We're we're here to heal our our our
[1:51:23] wounds.
[1:51:24] Uh
[1:51:26] For the purpose of being able to to
[1:51:30] genuinely
[1:51:33] uh
[1:51:33] totally
[1:51:36] and deeply do this self-inquiry
[1:51:42] without any overhead of it being like
[1:51:44] therapeutic and what I've got to get out
[1:51:45] of it and that sort of thing.
[1:51:47] You don't need to get anything out of
[1:51:49] it.
[1:51:50] We do have to get stuff. We do have to
[1:51:52] get some kind of emotional stability and
[1:51:54] freedom from the wounds and toxic stuff
[1:51:57] that we've all been through.
[1:52:00] All right.
[1:52:03] But we don't have that clouding up the
[1:52:06] inquiry,
[1:52:09] which is done
[1:52:11] to find out who you really are.
[1:52:15] Yeah,
[1:52:16] so
[1:52:17] even I I I can just see even the
[1:52:19] release. You've tried various kinds of
[1:52:21] things.
[1:52:22] So,
[1:52:24] really reach out to Christina.
[1:52:27] >> [laughter]
[1:52:27] >> So, all I can do is offer.
[1:52:29] All right.
[1:52:30] And then because these things require
[1:52:33] uh
[1:52:34] uh
[1:52:35] they require our guidance, help,
[1:52:36] support, others,
[1:52:39] understanding.
[1:52:41] Uh
[1:52:42] The deep cleaning, the deep healing
[1:52:46] is a transformation. It's not a
[1:52:48] therapeutic. It's not something you do.
[1:52:50] It
[1:52:51] i- i- it's
[1:52:53] something fundamentally has to transform
[1:52:55] in us so that
[1:52:57] that the influence of all the effects of
[1:53:00] the past are gone.
[1:53:03] The wounds have have healed up.
[1:53:08] Uh
[1:53:08] You're not broken.
[1:53:10] Yeah.
[1:53:12] You don't nothing has to be fixed.
[1:53:15] Uh but we have to come to see that.
[1:53:17] Uh
[1:53:18] That's where the freedom is.
[1:53:22] Uh
[1:53:24] Uh
[1:53:26] Uh
[1:53:28] Uh
[1:53:30] Okay.
[1:53:31] May-
[1:53:32] Yes, I am. Thank you. Much better.
[1:53:36] Jill,
[1:53:37] I've found the core of my separate self.
[1:53:40] That there's a hypercritical fear-based
[1:53:42] character. I'm seeing it from a clearer
[1:53:45] place now.
[1:53:47] But could you address the origins of
[1:53:49] that?
[1:53:52] And says, I think there's a reason I
[1:53:53] jumped into
[1:53:56] YouTube in this exact moment.
[1:53:58] Yeah, there was.
[1:53:59] Uh
[1:54:00] You need to hear that you're not broken.
[1:54:04] That you are
[1:54:06] You already are the perfect, innocent,
[1:54:09] beautiful, immaculate one.
[1:54:13] But there's these beliefs that are
[1:54:14] there, which is what Jill actually just
[1:54:16] asked about. Where did this one come
[1:54:19] from? All right.
[1:54:26] Well, first, let me take a sip.
[1:54:30] >> [laughter]
[1:54:31] >> Look at this. Nice lasted 2 hours
[1:54:33] something.
[1:54:43] Um
[1:54:45] >> [sighs]
[1:54:46] >> First off,
[1:54:50] in the meditation,
[1:54:53] as Ramana put it, don't
[1:54:56] he says
[1:55:01] direct your meditation
[1:55:04] not on
[1:55:06] the seeing,
[1:55:08] which is obviously the witness, right?
[1:55:11] And not on what is seen,
[1:55:15] but unmovingly
[1:55:17] on that which sees.
[1:55:29] Okay.
[1:55:30] Uh
[1:55:31] This is not the same answer I would give
[1:55:32] everybody, but for you, since I know you
[1:55:35] and have for a while,
[1:55:39] let's say
[1:55:41] you're having a really bad
[1:55:44] dream. You're chased by monsters or
[1:55:46] something like that, right?
[1:55:54] And you start to wake up.
[1:55:57] Do you really give a where the
[1:55:59] monsters came from?
[1:56:02] >> [laughter]
[1:56:07] >> Does it matter?
[1:56:10] Where did they come from? Nowhere.
[1:56:13] They arose.
[1:56:18] You were there before they arose. You
[1:56:20] watched them dance and you're still
[1:56:22] here.
[1:56:24] Now, I know what you re- I want to know
[1:56:25] there and I won't ignore that, but we'll
[1:56:27] take that up
[1:56:29] at one of the uh
[1:56:31] at one of the sangha meetings. Yeah.
[1:56:35] Right now, just notice that I don't need
[1:56:38] to know
[1:56:40] the source of a dream
[1:56:43] as if it had some specialness to it.
[1:56:45] What was the source?
[1:56:47] In the dream, me. It just arose out of
[1:56:49] me and fell back into me.
[1:56:52] Me being that which is com- completely
[1:56:56] unbounded, limitless, beyond all
[1:56:58] opposites. So,
[1:57:00] it doesn't matter what arises.
[1:57:03] >> [laughter]
[1:57:07] >> So,
[1:57:07] I'm I'm not going to explain it to you
[1:57:09] in
[1:57:10] this point in in terms of emotional
[1:57:12] healing, but in terms of that of the
[1:57:15] of the inquiry.
[1:57:17] Whatever arises doesn't exist.
[1:57:21] Period.
[1:57:22] It's just a movement in consciousness.
[1:57:25] It arose out of consciousness.
[1:57:28] Disappears back into consciousness.
[1:57:33] Keep your attention on that which sees.
[1:57:36] Even the question of what is that? Where
[1:57:39] is coming from?
[1:57:41] Just arose.
[1:57:47] For some, I wouldn't say that because it
[1:57:49] might be oh, it's just an illusion, make
[1:57:51] it go away, but you're not there
[1:57:53] anymore.
[1:57:54] You can now see that it is just an
[1:57:56] appearance, a movement in consciousness
[1:58:00] that has no reality.
[1:58:03] It has no origin.
[1:58:05] It didn't come from anywhere.
[1:58:09] It has no history,
[1:58:12] no cause.
[1:58:16] The actions that happen in a dream,
[1:58:20] we can imagine that
[1:58:22] some event took place in the dream
[1:58:23] because of something prior in in that
[1:58:26] dream, but that's not why it happened.
[1:58:29] It's why in dreams are so interesting
[1:58:31] because
[1:58:32] the normal the normal consistency,
[1:58:35] continuity of cause and effect is gone.
[1:58:38] All of a sudden, you can find yourself
[1:58:40] in a completely different world like
[1:58:42] that.
[1:58:43] No connection. No reason. Not caused.
[1:58:45] Just boom, shift.
[1:58:48] It gives us an insight that while it
[1:58:51] does look in our waking state like
[1:58:53] there's this consistency moving along,
[1:58:56] all right, there isn't.
[1:58:58] It's just that's the illusion of time.
[1:59:02] Time is just an idea projected on a
[1:59:05] series of events.
[1:59:08] They have some continuity. Seems as if
[1:59:10] they're real. They're, you know, causing
[1:59:13] this caused that caused that. No, it
[1:59:15] didn't.
[1:59:18] What caused it?
[1:59:22] It just arose in consciousness. Not a
[1:59:24] cause, not an intention, not an act of
[1:59:26] will.
[1:59:27] It just arose.
[1:59:30] Leave it at that.
[1:59:32] The deeper understanding of that
[1:59:35] comes by putting attention on that which
[1:59:38] sees because that which sees
[1:59:41] is the answer and the source of all
[1:59:44] knowledge.
[1:59:48] It doesn't even have to find out
[1:59:51] anything.
[1:59:52] It just knows.
[1:59:57] Notice that there is
[1:59:58] a sense of a person
[2:00:02] there
[2:00:04] that is seeing.
[2:00:06] I've I have found at the core of my
[2:00:08] separate self.
[2:00:10] Yes.
[2:00:12] My separate self. Who's the I
[2:00:16] and the my of the separate self? What
[2:00:18] sees the separate self as a separate
[2:00:21] self?
[2:00:25] Think that might be a bit more important
[2:00:27] than the sep- than actually the separate
[2:00:29] self or even the seeing of the separate
[2:00:32] self.
[2:00:34] That I
[2:00:36] you may find that there's just this
[2:00:38] little bitty guy said
[2:00:43] still kind of making a point for a
[2:00:45] separate self, huh?
[2:00:47] >> [clears throat]
[2:00:48] >> The core of the separate self is
[2:00:51] nothing.
[2:00:55] It's empty.
[2:00:57] Just an appearance.
[2:01:04] >> [snorts]
[2:01:07] >> Elena David, the realization is that the
[2:01:10] I cannot surrender because it never was.
[2:01:14] Even describe its disappearance as the
[2:01:16] last remnants of ice melting in water is
[2:01:19] is too much.
[2:01:20] Yeah, it is.
[2:01:22] No words, no fireworks, no great event.
[2:01:26] Yeah.
[2:01:30] The dissolution of a dream is
[2:01:34] and the dreamer.
[2:01:37] The I that surrenders will be witnessed.
[2:01:40] The I disappearing will be witnessed
[2:01:43] by
[2:01:44] the I.
[2:01:45] The real, the only I.
[2:01:48] Just silence.
[2:01:50] Yeah.
[2:01:52] Just
[2:01:54] silence
[2:01:57] and love.
[2:02:00] >> [laughter]
[2:02:01] >> Fatimah, gee, I missed your satsangs.
[2:02:03] Great to see you again. And you, my
[2:02:05] dear.
[2:02:09] May I find love? Ah, [sighs and gasps]
[2:02:12] me, too.
[2:02:14] Gee, can't stay long.
[2:02:16] Have to catch replays.
[2:02:19] Thanks in advance if you if there's no
[2:02:21] response. Would love to hear you talk
[2:02:24] take on authority. Notice continuous
[2:02:26] patterns of consulting the mind. Yeah.
[2:02:29] Everybody does it.
[2:02:31] Oh, is this true?
[2:02:35] It's just a matter of time
[2:02:38] before we begin to find that we are the
[2:02:42] reference point that says this is true.
[2:02:48] Yeah. I [clears throat] I I did it. I
[2:02:51] Okay. I have the insight. And then I
[2:02:53] like ah
[2:02:55] I'd be like how do I Yeah. I'd be trying
[2:02:57] to like make sense out of it.
[2:03:00] Instead of just accepting it. Don't give
[2:03:02] it to your mind. Just give it to your
[2:03:04] heart. Is it true? Our heart says yes.
[2:03:06] Therefore, it's true.
[2:03:07] The mind will always doubt. It is the
[2:03:09] It's the home of doubt.
[2:03:13] Because the mind
[2:03:14] cannot know the truth.
[2:03:18] It only has reference points. That's it.
[2:03:21] It can't know anything.
[2:03:26] It's just They're just comparisons and
[2:03:29] relative, you know, weights and values
[2:03:31] and things like that. It doesn't know.
[2:03:36] And so
[2:03:37] the coming to see that I don't have to
[2:03:40] get my mind's confirmation.
[2:03:45] I don't even want it.
[2:03:47] My heart tells me I know love is better
[2:03:50] than
[2:03:51] than than indifference.
[2:03:55] Than than
[2:03:57] than coercion.
[2:04:01] How do I know? I just know.
[2:04:04] Can I prove it?
[2:04:05] No.
[2:04:08] I don't care about proving it. It's
[2:04:09] true.
[2:04:12] I can't say
[2:04:13] Try it. See if it works.
[2:04:14] See if you can run a world on love.
[2:04:17] I'll bet you can.
[2:04:20] Not egoic, self-centered, narcissistic
[2:04:24] love, but a love that is
[2:04:27] that includes everyone.
[2:04:29] That'll work.
[2:04:31] >> [snorts]
[2:04:32] [clears throat]
[2:04:32] >> Yeah, thank you, G, for all your
[2:04:33] answers. Great answers
[2:04:35] to my comments. You have always been my
[2:04:37] great master.
[2:04:39] Yeah, thank you.
[2:04:42] I hate being told what to do.
[2:04:45] >> [laughter and gasps]
[2:04:45] >> Good. Yeah.
[2:04:47] That's why you've stayed with me as long
[2:04:49] as you have cuz I don't tell anybody
[2:04:50] what to do. Rarely. Every now and then
[2:04:52] I'll say, "You know what?
[2:04:54] Stop.
[2:04:57] Stop beating your head in the wall
[2:04:59] against the wall because it feels good
[2:05:01] when you stop."
[2:05:04] >> [laughter]
[2:05:08] >> I'm desired not to be affected by what's
[2:05:10] said, no matter how positive or
[2:05:13] cruel.
[2:05:15] Yeah. You can't
[2:05:17] become immune to the thoughts and
[2:05:19] actions and sayings of others as a
[2:05:21] person. You The ego cannot ever be free
[2:05:26] of needing external confirmation.
[2:05:30] It can't.
[2:05:32] The only way to get there
[2:05:34] is to find you because once you know you
[2:05:38] as you are, no matter what,
[2:05:41] it it's
[2:05:43] it's invulnerable. It's unmovable. It
[2:05:45] doesn't matter what anybody says. This
[2:05:47] is what I am.
[2:05:48] What you think I am is not me.
[2:05:56] >> [clears throat]
[2:05:58] [snorts and gasps]
[2:05:59] >> Dias Beatrice, thank you so much for
[2:06:02] saying everybody's got to go. Okay. Me,
[2:06:04] too, actually.
[2:06:05] >> [laughter]
[2:06:06] >> All right. I don't have to, but
[2:06:08] Yeah, I
[2:06:09] Yeah, I think we've pretty much covered
[2:06:11] it up.
[2:06:13] Uh yes, it's love that heals. I am that
[2:06:16] love. I see that now. Thank you so so so
[2:06:19] much. Very enlightening.
[2:06:23] Bella
[2:06:26] Bella Arab stories. Bella Arab stories.
[2:06:30] Um it's Barb.
[2:06:32] >> [laughter]
[2:06:32] >> I keep changing
[2:06:35] >> [clears throat]
[2:06:37] [snorts]
[2:06:38] >> My name, of course. Identity
[2:06:40] keeps changing, so you know. Yeah. You
[2:06:43] can be whoever you want. You can just
[2:06:44] make it all up
[2:06:46] and just always be you.
[2:06:49] I actually want to ask something about
[2:06:50] the female archetype. This might be
[2:06:52] along the theme of your workshop.
[2:06:56] Lots of female archetypes. Yeah.
[2:06:59] Uh let's see. Want to ask something
[2:07:02] about the Let's see. She keeps It's
[2:07:03] basically I feel so good when I see the
[2:07:05] female archetype in myself. Like proud
[2:07:08] and worthy. And then I realize, wait, is
[2:07:10] this just another of
[2:07:11] what I am not?
[2:07:13] Reluctant.
[2:07:15] Reluctant to let it go.
[2:07:18] No.
[2:07:20] It is not
[2:07:21] what you are,
[2:07:24] but it is the attributes of you.
[2:07:27] Archetypes are represent representations
[2:07:31] of
[2:07:33] us.
[2:07:35] They are the qualities that are us
[2:07:38] projected outwards in an ideal form.
[2:07:43] But they arise here.
[2:07:44] Here,
[2:07:46] they're not really a form, right? You're
[2:07:48] not Athena or
[2:07:49] >> [laughter]
[2:07:51] >> Right?
[2:07:53] >> [clears throat]
[2:07:53] >> But yet you are.
[2:07:57] Because they represent these essential
[2:08:00] qualities.
[2:08:04] And so but but the the step beyond that
[2:08:08] is not that I'm not that. It is
[2:08:12] that is an attribute of me.
[2:08:17] But that me
[2:08:19] is beyond all the attributes.
[2:08:23] My character is not myself. It is just
[2:08:27] It is just the visible part of me.
[2:08:30] >> [clears throat]
[2:08:31] >> It is an attribute of me. That me
[2:08:35] can't be seen.
[2:08:37] And yet
[2:08:39] we see all the attributes of it.
[2:08:42] So, you are that.
[2:08:45] That is all of those describe you. Like
[2:08:48] the image in a mirror.
[2:08:50] Right? It is you, but it's not the
[2:08:52] original.
[2:08:54] You are where the where the archetype
[2:08:57] came from.
[2:09:00] You are what makes it have
[2:09:03] value and reality.
[2:09:07] Not the other way around.
[2:09:11] And I just figured out that I can start
[2:09:13] trust life when I see I only need to
[2:09:15] trust in myself.
[2:09:17] The way is to find out that I am life
[2:09:20] itself.
[2:09:22] Yes, we already know that. Now,
[2:09:25] the
[2:09:27] the sudden of the practice
[2:09:30] is letting that become
[2:09:33] letting that go from being an insight to
[2:09:35] being your lived reality.
[2:09:38] It could take time.
[2:09:39] With patience. Not a lot of time, but
[2:09:43] it it it's got to not just be
[2:09:46] I can, but I I am and that I am
[2:09:50] love, as you said before. I
[2:09:53] I am life.
[2:09:54] Right?
[2:09:56] Notice there's
[2:09:57] some doubt, some resistance, but
[2:09:59] it's okay.
[2:10:00] Which is fine. Right?
[2:10:03] That's where we
[2:10:05] all of that resistance and stuff, we
[2:10:08] bring the light of our insight to that
[2:10:10] through love. And then
[2:10:13] it's more than an insight.
[2:10:15] It is my reality. It is me.
[2:10:19] But that's that announcement, it is me,
[2:10:23] is not coming from a sense of of a
[2:10:27] person. It is reality announcing itself.
[2:10:34] So,
[2:10:37] >> [sighs]
[2:10:37] >> share your referral link.
[2:10:40] What's that?
[2:10:43] Huh.
[2:10:44] Look at that. Oh, no, it's not referring
[2:10:46] to me. It's It's a little thing down
[2:10:48] here on my screen. Share your referral,
[2:10:49] please.
[2:10:50] Me trying to get everybody to use this
[2:10:53] particular platform.
[2:10:54] So.
[2:10:57] On that note,
[2:10:59] once again, I will invite everybody to
[2:11:01] all of my classes, emotional healing,
[2:11:04] this self-inquiry sangha, and uh
[2:11:07] next weekend, yeah,
[2:11:09] a class just for women.
[2:11:14] Which was last time I did it, it went on
[2:11:15] for 5 [laughter]
[2:11:21] but was deeply meaningful to everyone
[2:11:23] who was who was there.
[2:11:25] It was uh
[2:11:26] it was sweet.
[2:11:29] And and empowering, which is an
[2:11:32] important one. Yeah.
[2:11:37] So.
[2:11:38] Anyway,
[2:11:40] if Christine, if you're there, just put
[2:11:41] your email in there one more time.
[2:11:44] And if you're not there, well,
[2:11:48] it's enough anyway.
[2:12:00] I might just take a moment to see if
[2:12:02] there's anything else that wants to be
[2:12:03] said.
[2:12:08] I guess not. Thank you all.
[2:12:12] Thank you all and I'll uh
[2:12:15] I believe I will see you 2 weeks from
[2:12:17] today and maybe some of you next
[2:12:18] weekend.
[2:12:20] Yeah, until then,
[2:12:21] all my love.
[2:12:26] Uh