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[0:00] Hello there thrillsekers. My name is
[0:02] Brad Warner. I've written a bunch of
[0:04] books about Zen Buddhism and I'd like to
[0:06] talk to you today about having
[0:07] compassion for yourself and some other
[0:09] stuff. Let's do that after 25 seconds of
[0:12] Cecilia and by the Surf Tones.
[0:16] [music]
[0:20] [music]
[0:25] [music]
[0:28] All
[0:31] >> [music]
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[0:39] >> right, that was Cecilia Anne by the Surf
[0:42] Tone. Some of you may know the cover
[0:43] version by the Pixies. It's actually a
[0:45] fake surf song. It appeared on this
[0:48] compilation, Surf Legends and Rumors
[0:50] 1961-64,
[0:52] where it's listed as being recorded in
[0:54] 1964, but it was actually recorded in
[0:56] the 1980s by the guys who put together
[0:58] the compilation, and it's a good song.
[1:00] So, there you go. All right, let's start
[1:02] out with a question I got from a viewer.
[1:05] And here it goes. [snorts] For most of
[1:07] my life, I have felt distant from others
[1:10] and felt less than. My pride and my ego
[1:13] at times make me feel in my mind that I
[1:15] am superior, but for the most part I
[1:18] feel less than. Is it possible to
[1:20] develop compassion for yourself through
[1:22] sitting and following the Zen path? I
[1:24] try to help people in need and feel
[1:26] better about myself by giving money to
[1:28] others, but in the end it feels selfish
[1:31] and at times wasteful and makes me think
[1:33] that I am doing more harm than good.
[1:36] Like I'm trying to win their approval
[1:37] and get validation for myself for
[1:39] feeling superior. How does one balance
[1:42] helping others versus looking out for
[1:44] oneself? Is it all just ego at the end
[1:46] of the day? Thank you for your channel
[1:48] and your insights. Stay blessed. I like
[1:49] that ending. Okay. Okay. Well, let's
[1:52] talk about that.
[1:54] I've talked about compassion a number of
[1:56] times on this here YouTube channel, and
[1:59] I always reference Dogen's essay uh
[2:03] which is called Oh god, what is it
[2:06] called? Canon. That's what it's called.
[2:09] And canon is the Japanese word for kwan
[2:12] yin in Chinese and avalokeshvara in
[2:16] Sanskrit. Um yeah, I think there's some
[2:19] other names this bodhicatta has. And
[2:21] it's a bodhicattva of compassion. So he
[2:24] or she because sometimes he's depicted
[2:26] as male and sometimes she's depicted as
[2:28] female uh is the bodhicatta who
[2:30] represents compassion. And Dogen wrote
[2:32] an essay about it in Shobenzo. And in
[2:35] his essay, he's quoting I forget the
[2:38] name of the spiritual master. He's
[2:39] quoting some spiritual master in the
[2:41] past, some Zen master in the past. And
[2:43] and he says, "Compassion is like a
[2:46] pillow reaching, sorry, not a pillow.
[2:48] Compassion is like a hand reaching for a
[2:51] pillow in the night or reaching back to
[2:53] adjust a pillow in the night." And you
[2:55] know, I've never seen anybody do a a
[2:58] kind of um commentary on exactly what
[3:01] they think that means, but what I think
[3:03] it means is that it's it's a spontaneous
[3:07] action that you do not specifically for
[3:11] yourself or specifically for somebody
[3:13] else. You just do it because it needs
[3:15] done. And once it's done, nobody even
[3:18] knows that it was done because you're
[3:20] asleep the whole time. and you just get
[3:23] the benefit occurs but there's no sort
[3:26] of doer and dewy I guess the person who
[3:30] it's being done to uh there's also a
[3:32] chant that we do for meals that say uh
[3:35] let us remember the emptiness of the
[3:37] three wheels giver receiver and gift so
[3:42] the person who wrote me is feeling weird
[3:45] about compassion because among other
[3:48] things he doesn't feel like whether he's
[3:50] doing it for himself or doing it for
[3:53] somebody else. And the thing is when you
[3:56] do compassionate action, you're doing it
[3:58] both for yourself and for somebody else.
[4:00] And there is a kind of admonition in
[4:03] some forms of Buddhism
[4:05] not to do compassionate acts just
[4:07] because you want merit. Because in
[4:09] Buddhism, in especially in ancient
[4:11] Buddhism, there's this idea that what
[4:13] you do, the good things you do acrue
[4:16] merit for you. And that merit will give
[4:18] you a better life in this life and give
[4:20] you a better reincarnation in the next
[4:22] life. That's a kind of trope in
[4:25] Buddhism. And there are some early
[4:27] Buddhist texts which will tell you don't
[4:29] do good acts, don't do compassion acts
[4:32] just because of that. And okay, sure.
[4:35] But the thing is, you can't really help
[4:37] what sort of thoughts flow through your
[4:39] head when you're doing something
[4:41] compassionate. when you're when you're
[4:43] helping an old lady across the street or
[4:45] giving uh giving your dog a treat or
[4:47] something like that. I don't know what
[4:49] you know, little compassionate acts or
[4:50] big compassionate acts, you don't know
[4:52] what's going to cross your mind when you
[4:54] do it. And my feeling is it doesn't
[4:56] really matter. I think that's one of the
[4:58] things Dogen is trying to say using that
[5:00] example of the hand reaching for the
[5:02] pillow and adjusting it in the night. It
[5:04] doesn't matter. If you if you feel like
[5:07] you're doing it for yourself, well, then
[5:10] you may you may do more than you need to
[5:12] do. But if you one of the problems with
[5:15] compassion sometimes is among people who
[5:19] are into Buddhism is that they're really
[5:21] into this whole idea of being a good
[5:23] person. And being a good person means
[5:25] doing good things. And so there's a
[5:29] tendency for people who are into this
[5:31] sort of Buddhism and other sort of
[5:33] mindfulness or whatever to go out
[5:35] looking for compassionate things to do
[5:37] like go out look see what you know what
[5:39] can I do compassionate today and I don't
[5:42] think that's usually necessary. I'm not
[5:45] saying that's a bad thing. You know you
[5:47] can you can do those things and I I
[5:49] think they're great. I got a friend who
[5:51] uh volunteers uh to feed the homeless
[5:54] and gives blood like I think every week
[5:56] or something like that. And I think
[5:58] that's great. You know, those are great
[6:00] things to do. But on the other hand,
[6:03] compassion is usually in the Buddhist
[6:06] sense something that comes up
[6:08] spontaneously. And maybe for my friend
[6:09] this came up spontaneously. So that's
[6:11] great. But it's something that that
[6:13] shows up in your life. It's it's a
[6:14] thing. It's the it's the old lady
[6:16] needing a a hand held to walk across the
[6:20] street. That's a you know dumb old
[6:22] example that people give of
[6:23] compassionate action. But it it is
[6:25] something that appears to you. It it's a
[6:28] it's a good example for this even though
[6:30] I don't think it has ever really
[6:31] happened in the history of mankind. But
[6:34] anyway, it it appears to you and you go
[6:36] and you do it. You're the one who's
[6:38] there who can help with the situation
[6:40] and here's the old lady who needs the
[6:42] help and you do it. and and and and you
[6:45] don't have to go out looking for it. You
[6:47] don't have to go trying really hard to
[6:50] be a compassionate person. You just do
[6:53] what needs to be done at that moment.
[6:55] And if while you're helping the old lady
[6:58] across the street, you happen to have a
[7:00] thought like maybe I'll get some merit
[7:02] for this or maybe I'll be reborn in a
[7:05] better life next life. If you believe in
[7:07] that sort of thing, doesn't matter. You
[7:09] still do the action. I have been the
[7:13] beneficiary, is that the word? I have
[7:15] benefited from a lot of people's
[7:16] compassionate action in the past few
[7:19] years. Everybody who donates to this
[7:21] YouTube channel is I think involved in
[7:23] compassionate action towards me because
[7:25] that's how I make a living. But uh Dogen
[7:29] even says that even working a a job is
[7:34] an example of donna which is free giving
[7:37] which is another idea of compassionate
[7:39] action. So it's he says it's originally
[7:43] freegiving. [snorts] So it means it's a
[7:46] sort of system has evolved around it.
[7:49] But what's really happening as far as
[7:51] Dogen is concerned when you're doing a
[7:53] job to make a living is you're doing
[7:56] compassionate action for others. And the
[7:59] the reward or part of the reward or part
[8:02] of the merit if you will for that shows
[8:04] up in the form of a paycheck. But it
[8:06] doesn't matter that much. you're still
[8:08] doing it for the benefit of all mankind.
[8:12] And as I often say, don't ignore small
[8:15] compassionate action because a lot of
[8:17] people who get into this Buddhist stuff
[8:19] uh get into like giant causes. We're
[8:22] going to fix the big cause. We're going
[8:24] to, you know, I don't know, end
[8:25] homelessness or end the war here and
[8:27] there or whatever they're going to do.
[8:29] And okay, fine. But don't ignore the
[8:32] small bits of compassion you can do like
[8:35] treating some the clerk nicely when
[8:37] you're checking out at the grocery store
[8:39] and not being a somebody last night. I
[8:42] don't know what the hell was going on,
[8:44] but I got woken up at 1:30 in the
[8:46] morning by some people having an
[8:48] argument and apparently stomping on some
[8:50] bushes and wrecking the bushes of my
[8:52] neighbor last night. And that's that's
[8:56] not compassionate action because it woke
[8:58] me up and I was up for the next two
[9:00] hours because I'm a light sleeper and I
[9:02] have a hard time going back to sleep
[9:03] once you woke me up. Especially if it's
[9:05] some kind of noise and craziness going
[9:07] on. So that's not compassionate action.
[9:10] So So remember that when you are in a
[9:14] situation where you want to have an
[9:16] argument with somebody at 1:00 in the
[9:17] morning, you know that kind of thing.
[9:19] Hey Ziggy, who you barking at? What you
[9:21] barking at? They're not out there right
[9:24] now. I'm talking about what they were
[9:25] doing last night. See, it woke Ziggy up,
[9:28] too. And he's talking about it. He's
[9:29] telling me about it. No, it's they're
[9:31] they're not here. They're not here right
[9:33] now. Okay.
[9:36] And my questioner says, "Is it possible
[9:38] to develop compassion for yourself
[9:40] through sitting and following the Zen
[9:42] path?" This whole idea of compassion for
[9:44] yourself, I think, is important. The
[9:46] only caveat I put in front of that is
[9:49] that sometimes people get so into the
[9:51] idea of doing compassion and helping
[9:53] yourself and like, oh, the way I can
[9:55] help myself or help others is to help
[9:57] myself that they forget to help others,
[9:59] you know, and I I've seen that happen a
[10:00] few times with people who get so into
[10:02] that. But the thing is, you got to you
[10:04] got to help yourself, you I I think
[10:06] about it in my case uh in order to be
[10:08] able to do my job properly that I've
[10:11] been doing all my you know adult life or
[10:13] not all my adult life ever since I quit
[10:15] working for Super Productions in 200
[10:18] what was it 8 n anyway whatever that
[10:21] I've been doing for a lot of years is I
[10:24] got to help myself I got to help myself
[10:25] get over this condition which I've
[10:26] talked about and new viewers may not
[10:28] know that but I've got a serious health
[10:29] condition and I'm working to uh to get
[10:32] over it and it looks like I may be
[10:35] getting over it, but I don't know. I'm
[10:37] cautiously optimistic, but I got to do
[10:39] that. I got to work on myself. And and
[10:41] there there have been times in the
[10:42] recent past where I've just the only
[10:44] thing I could do was just sit on the
[10:46] couch at home. And in a sense, that's
[10:50] also compassionate action because the
[10:51] only way I'm going to be useful to
[10:53] anybody else is if I heal myself. And
[10:56] the only way I'm going to heal myself is
[10:58] by staying out of things for a while. So
[11:00] even action like that is compassionate
[11:03] action. And can you develop it through
[11:05] Zen and through uh what does he say?
[11:07] Through sitting and through the Zen
[11:08] path. You know, you'll hear a lot about
[11:12] it. And the what you got to do when you
[11:15] hear about it is put that stuff into
[11:18] action. And yeah, you can, but you're
[11:20] going to have to do it. So So it's not
[11:23] going to just happen just because you do
[11:26] Zen or because you listen to these talks
[11:28] or something. You have to put it into
[11:29] action. So yes, the answer is yes, but
[11:32] you got to do stuff. And I got another
[11:34] question which I feel is tangentially
[11:37] related to that one although the
[11:39] relationship between the two questions
[11:40] might be a little obscure and we're
[11:42] going to see what we can do with that.
[11:44] And the question is stated very briefly
[11:46] at the beginning of the email. It goes
[11:49] what should we do when someone gets
[11:51] hurt? And this person quotes Sawaki who
[11:54] says zazen means becoming the absolute
[11:57] self. I can practice zazen only because
[12:00] everyone allows me to practice zazen.
[12:02] Therefore, there is no separation
[12:04] between me and every living being. If I
[12:07] awaken, everyone awakens. This does not
[12:10] mean, however, that remaining deluded is
[12:12] fine. And then the person after this
[12:15] quote goes on, and I'm going to try to
[12:17] give this without giving the specifics
[12:19] because I don't want to out this person.
[12:21] Uh says that someone at the uh the Zen
[12:25] center that this person goes to has
[12:27] resigned and this she has resigned. the
[12:31] person is a woman who resigned. Um, now
[12:35] is following a practice that combines
[12:37] meditation with psychological studies
[12:39] and isn't as interested in Zen anymore
[12:41] and is more interested in vapa.
[12:44] And this person says
[12:47] that he or she I don't know if the
[12:50] person who wrote me is a man or woman.
[12:52] So, let let's just say he
[12:54] >> [snorts]
[12:54] >> uh he disagrees with this and wants this
[12:57] uh this person at at the um at the Zen
[13:00] Center to to go back to Zen. Uh and
[13:03] says, "Sometimes when I see people in
[13:05] difficulty, I wish they knew that if
[13:07] they sat down and let go of everything,
[13:09] things would be different. Must I really
[13:12] accept everything compassionately
[13:14] because if I awaken, everyone awakens?"
[13:16] How do you deal with these situations?
[13:19] And yeah, okay. a situation like that
[13:23] where you see somebody kind of going the
[13:26] a way that you think is wrong,
[13:29] it's difficult because in most cases if
[13:33] you kind of step up there and try to,
[13:36] you know, force your way into it and and
[13:38] you sound like a a kind of a Karen
[13:40] giving unasked for advice and it's it's
[13:44] not going to it's usually not going to
[13:46] land right unless you know the person
[13:48] very very well. uh you might be able to
[13:51] to sway them one way or the other, but
[13:53] for the most part, I don't even try. Uh
[13:56] it it reminds me of a guy who many years
[14:00] ago used to attend the Zen Center I had
[14:02] in Los Angeles and seemed pretty
[14:05] enthusiastic about everything. But one
[14:06] day he announced he was done with Zen
[14:08] and he was going to join transcendental
[14:10] meditation. Uh, and I think it worked
[14:12] out for him pretty well because
[14:14] transcendental meditation is very sort
[14:16] of clubby and it sort of is a good way
[14:20] to make connections because there's a
[14:22] lot of famous people in there,
[14:24] especially people in the entertainment
[14:25] business. And I think this guy, this guy
[14:28] was a filmmaker and I think he was able
[14:30] to get his film making career going a
[14:32] little bit better because he was in TM
[14:34] where he could make the connections.
[14:37] But, uh, I felt like, oh, you're not
[14:39] really, uh,
[14:41] I I have mixed feelings about TM. I
[14:43] don't think it's the worst thing in the
[14:45] world, but I feel like Zen is better. If
[14:47] I didn't feel like Zen is better, I'd be
[14:49] a TM teacher instead of a Zen teacher,
[14:51] you know. So, that that, you know, so
[14:53] take that as you will. But trying to
[14:57] manipulate what somebody else is doing
[15:00] is usually a losing game. And the most
[15:05] for the most part the best you can do is
[15:07] just let it go and let them figure out
[15:10] for themselves what it is they want to
[15:12] do just like you have to figure out for
[15:14] yourself what you want to do. And you
[15:17] can give people advice and that's fine.
[15:19] A lot of people ask a kind of related
[15:21] question about how to get their friends
[15:23] and family into Zen because they think
[15:25] it would be great for for my
[15:26] sister-in-law or it' be great for my my
[15:29] mother or my brother or my sister or
[15:30] whatever it is.
[15:32] And I always say the same thing like
[15:35] don't if you've got your own practice,
[15:37] keep doing your own practice and that
[15:39] practice if it has benefits will show
[15:42] itself and it doesn't need you to kind
[15:46] of hit people over the head. I'll give
[15:49] you a good example. Uh my wife uh she
[15:52] doesn't she's not a Zen practitioner.
[15:54] She came to a couple of retreats I did
[15:57] and said she liked it. And I don't know,
[16:01] maybe two or three times in our years
[16:05] together. It's been over 10 years that
[16:07] we've been together. Not married 10
[16:08] years, but we've been uh together for
[16:10] about that long or 12 years or gosh.
[16:13] Anyway, I'm not going to try to do the
[16:14] math right now. Basically hasn't sat
[16:17] zen. She's sat zen one or two times
[16:18] since then, you know, since we've been
[16:20] together. And the other day she started
[16:22] asking me cuz she's having some
[16:24] difficulty at work like uh should I
[16:25] start practicing Zen? And this is the
[16:28] person I'm closest to in the world. And
[16:31] I said, "Well, you know, if you feel
[16:33] like it, you can join me. You know, when
[16:35] I do it, I do it every morning and every
[16:37] evening and I' I'd be happy to have you
[16:39] join me and I'd be happy to tell you
[16:41] whatever you want to know about the
[16:43] practice and about doing it." And she
[16:46] said, "Fine." And that was like a week
[16:48] ago and she hasn't practiced any zazen
[16:51] since then. So, you know, maybe she'll
[16:53] come around. I don't know. Sometimes I
[16:56] think people don't need it. Not this is
[16:59] a hard one to say. I I think everybody
[17:01] could benefit from Zen practice. But on
[17:05] the other hand, there are people who
[17:07] have their own thing and if they're
[17:09] doing their own thing and it's working
[17:11] for them, I don't want to try to force
[17:13] my way onto them. So, you know, I've
[17:16] brought up the example of my
[17:17] mother-in-law, my wife's mom, and she is
[17:20] very zen without ever having practiced
[17:23] Zen at all. And I I think she's doing
[17:26] great. She's Catholic, but she's kind of
[17:28] funny about her Catholicism. She's very
[17:30] sort of open to anything, you know,
[17:33] about about the Catholicism, but she was
[17:35] raised Catholic and that's the way she
[17:37] knows and and she does it that way and
[17:40] it works fine for her. So, I don't feel
[17:43] like I want to mess with that if that's
[17:46] working for her. But if she came to me
[17:49] wanting Zazen instruction, she could
[17:50] have zazin instruction. There's a a kind
[17:53] of rule of thumb. Somebody asked me
[17:55] about this and they said they
[17:58] misinterpreted what I said as saying
[18:00] that you shouldn't talk about Zen unless
[18:02] you're compelled to do so. The the rule
[18:05] of thumb is don't answer a question
[18:07] about Zen or Buddhism. You know, it
[18:09] depends on which version you're
[18:11] listening to. Unless the person who is
[18:13] asking you about it asks you three
[18:15] times. I'm doing the European style
[18:17] three there. So, I don't take that
[18:20] literally. I don't literally wait for
[18:22] somebody to ask me three times about Zen
[18:25] before I tell them about it. But I do
[18:28] try to assess the question and see if
[18:30] the person is serious about the question
[18:33] and really wants to know. And if they
[18:36] really want to know and I feel there's a
[18:38] sincerity there, I'll tell them
[18:39] everything. But if I don't feel like
[18:41] they really want to know, then I'm kind
[18:43] of like whatever. Like there was a a
[18:45] discussion at work when I was working at
[18:47] Subarai Productions in Japan where my
[18:49] boss just I don't know why, but one day
[18:51] he spontaneously asked me if do you
[18:53] believe in reincarnation?
[18:55] And you could look at some of my videos
[18:58] about that subject. I've been ca I've
[19:00] been chastised by certain Buddhists for
[19:04] not being enough of a believer in
[19:06] reincarnation. So I have kind of mixed
[19:08] feelings about reincarnation. I think a
[19:10] lot of people in the Zen stream of
[19:12] Buddhism have that. Most of us I would
[19:15] say generally sort of believe in it but
[19:17] we're kind of uh what a dining category
[19:21] said. He said something about he
[19:22] believes in reincarnation but he's not
[19:24] attached to that belief. And that's kind
[19:26] of how I feel about it. I sort of
[19:27] believe in it, but I'm like not like. So
[19:30] [snorts] anyway, they didn't want an
[19:32] answer like that. My boss didn't want he
[19:34] wanted a yes or no. You know, I don't
[19:36] know where he wanted to go with the
[19:38] discussion, but that, you know, it
[19:39] wasn't it wasn't a serious question. And
[19:42] so that's the kind of thing where it's
[19:44] not so useful to try to preach to
[19:47] somebody. We're very against
[19:49] procilitizing.
[19:50] Buddhism is one of the missionary
[19:52] religions in that it actively tries to
[19:55] draw people into it. So it it's not like
[19:58] Judaism which is sort of insular or some
[20:00] there must be other religions like that
[20:02] and and you have to be born into it. I
[20:04] know it's complicated with Judaism. I
[20:06] have Jewish family members so I know
[20:08] about this but I know basically that's
[20:09] it. Buddhism isn't like that. Buddhism
[20:11] tries to draw people in but in the Zen
[20:13] form of Buddhism we don't try that hard.
[20:15] You know, people often complain about
[20:17] Zen centers being cold and unwelcoming
[20:20] and they should go to Asia in the
[20:23] especially in the past where the way you
[20:25] entered a Zen monastery was you had to
[20:27] go knock on the door and they would tell
[20:29] you to go away and you knock on the door
[20:31] again and they'd tell you to go away and
[20:33] then they'd make you sit on the doorstep
[20:34] for five or six days in the snow and the
[20:38] rain to prove that you're sincere and if
[20:40] you stayed long enough they would let
[20:42] you in and then the first thing they
[20:43] would make you do is a 7-day day hell uh
[20:46] thing called tongario where you you sit
[20:50] continuously for the entire week. You
[20:52] don't even get a break. Uh and then if
[20:54] you proved you were sincere enough, then
[20:56] you were allowed in. So that's kind of
[20:57] the Zen way. Yeah, we're trying to draw
[20:59] you in, but we're not trying that hard.
[21:01] We're not like, "Welcome, hello, have
[21:03] the have some ice cream. Uh let's talk
[21:05] about Buddha." It's not like that. So
[21:08] yeah. So I don't know if I answered
[21:10] either of those questions very well, but
[21:12] I tried. So, I hope you enjoyed that.
[21:15] All right. If you want to donate to me
[21:17] answering more questions like this, you
[21:19] can go to the URL that you're about to
[21:20] see on the screen below or you're about
[21:22] to hear if you're listening to the audio
[21:24] podcast version, and that is
[21:25] hardcorezen.info/donate.
[21:29] Once again, hardcorezen.info/donate.
[21:33] That's where you will find links to my
[21:35] PayPal and Patreon accounts. Those are
[21:37] my only way of making a living right
[21:38] now, and I appreciate your support. But
[21:40] as always, you don't got to support me
[21:41] if you don't want to support me. All
[21:43] right. Uh, a friend of mine was asking
[21:45] me, do I play these whole songs that I
[21:48] do in the videos? Uh, or do I just learn
[21:50] the part in the video? Well, sometimes I
[21:52] just learn the part that I want for the
[21:54] video and sometimes I learn the song.
[21:55] Today I learned the whole song. So,
[21:57] after my Ziggy cameo, I'll put a little
[21:59] I'll put the whole song just to prove I
[22:01] did it in case you're interested in
[22:02] watching it. All right, we will see you
[22:04] again. Have a good time all the time.
[22:06] We'll see you later. Bye,
[22:09] Ziggy in a sunbeam. I know. I know it's
[22:13] serious. We got woke up, didn't we,
[22:15] Ziggy, by that person making all that
[22:18] noise outside last night in the middle
[22:19] of the night, huh?
[22:21] All right, I'm going to let you enjoy
[22:23] your nap because you need one. So do I.
[22:26] See you later, Ziggy. Bye.
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