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Inspiration

Goddess of Fortune: Lakshmi, Myth, and What We Really Want

Vedanta Society of Southern California
Vedanta Society of Southern California
Oct 26, 2026
8 min de lectura

De Vedanta Society of Southern California

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Swami Arupeshananda's talk "The Goddess of Fortune," given through the Vedanta Society of Southern California, starts from a question most listeners have carried since childhood: what is a goddess, and what is fortune? The speaker takes both words seriously. He argues that the stories of gods and goddesses are not decorative fiction layered over an abstract philosophy, but a deliberate bridge between teachings that seem impossibly lofty and the ordinary wanting that drives every human life. Through the figure of Lakshmi, he traces how one deity can be read as the giver of food, money, education, or domestic peace depending on who is praying, and he insists that the experiences these myths describe are more vivid than the one you are having right now. The excerpt that follows draws on the opening portion of that talk.

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Why did a schoolroom lesson on Hinduism get it wrong?

The talk opens with a memory. Swami Arupeshananda recalls elementary school in the 1970s, when a teacher described Hinduism as polytheism, a religion of many gods, while Christianity was framed as monotheism. He remembers finding the contrast tidy and persuasive: one god sounded more sensible than many. That, he suggests, was a misunderstanding from the start. (In the opening minutes, at about 6:03, he begins his remarks with the words "Good morning," and the scene he sets is the room of a classroom that never asked what the many figures were for.)

The tension he pins down is between two registers of Hindu thought. At the summit sit the Mahavakyas, the "great sayings" of the Vedas, which assert non-duality. He quotes them directly: "I am Brahman," "That thou art," and "There is no multiplicity whatsoever." He then asks his audience to sit with the last one. Look around the room, he says, and you find difference everywhere: a person and a podium, a right hand and a left hand. Multiplicity is the texture of everyday experience. At about 8:02 he voices the skeptic's reaction most of us would have: "What were these rishis smoking?"

His answer is that the tradition never asked ordinary people to leap straight to those summits. Instead it offered stories, the Itihasas and Puranas, populated by gods, goddesses, demons, and talking frogs, all serving to make the high teachings graspable. The myths are the on-ramp.

Is mythology just a fairy tale?

This is the claim that gives the talk its spine. The speaker is careful about a word that modern ears hear as "made up." "I say this word mythology," he tells the room, "but I think it's important to understand that that doesn't mean it's false or made up." He draws a line between two kinds of perception. Ordinary perception is mediated. "It is mediated through the mind and the senses," he explains. You see a face, you infer a mood: bored, irritated, happy to be here. Every such reading passes through the instrument of the mind.

Contemplative practice, in his account, works in the opposite direction. The practitioner withdraws the mind from external objects, gathers it entirely inward, and fixes it on a chosen ideal. He is candid that this is a demanding goal, something "those of us who have made a regular practice of prayer and meditation know just how lofty" a target it is. But when it succeeds, the result is a direct perception, one with the mind out of the way. He calls this experience "far more intense" than ordinary sight, and then makes the claim that reframes the whole talk:

"They are in fact more real than this experience." (Swami Arupeshananda, The Goddess of Fortune, around 12:00)

The point is not that gods are less real than the table in front of you. It is that the table is, for the mind, a mediated report, while a vision of the deity is said to be unmediated. The myths describe those visions in narrative form so that people who have not yet had them have something to hold.

What does the Chandi story teach about Lakshmi?

To make this concrete, the speaker turns to a passage from the Chandi, the Devi Mahatmya text he names in the talk, in which Lakshmi appears as the second manifestation of the divine mother. The story, as he tells it, runs like this. A terrible demon, Mahishasura, throws the gods out of heaven. They weep on the earth and pray to the Mother. Light then pours out of the bodies of all the gods, gathers into a single form, and becomes a giant goddess with a thousand arms, her diadem scraping the sky. The gods adorn her with weapons, ornaments, flowers, and jewels, and they rejoice. The demons, threatened, rush to attack, and the goddess, unstrained, hurls her weapons at the Asuras while sages and divine beings extol her.

The speaker admits that he has always loved this image, and he confesses to a private fantasy. He pictures the giant goddess and sees in her face the look of the Holy Mother in a standing photograph, a majestic motherhood, while the sages sing from the clouds and the lower arms toss weapons at the demons "no problem." It is a personal vision, he says, but it shows how the text is meant to be entered: not as a historical report, but as an image the imagination can inhabit until it becomes a form of worship.

Notice what the story is doing for the argument. The divine power that defeats the demon is not a stranger. It is the combined light of the gods themselves. The narrative suggests that the sum of what the gods are has to gather into one form before it can meet the forces that threaten order. Whatever the reader makes of the cosmology, the logic is about unity arising from scattered powers.

Why is Lakshmi celebrated on different days in different places?

Here the talk shifts from the cosmic to the cultural. Lakshmi's festivals do not sync across India. The speaker notes that the day he is speaking about is her birthday for much of eastern India, including Bengal, while in northern places like Delhi the Lakshmi observance comes at Diwali, several days later. Each region, he argues, emphasizes the aspect of the goddess its people needed.

  • In parts of the subcontinent she is primarily an agricultural benefactor, the one who makes the harvest good.
  • In others, the obvious association is money, the first thing most of us think of.
  • In some places she is the giver of education.
  • In others she is the giver of domestic bliss and societal peace.

The list is the talk's most useful tool for modern readers. It implies that a deity's attributes are not fixed by scripture alone. They are shaped by what a community values and what it lacks. A farming village, a merchant town, a family seeking harmony, and a school community each find a different Lakshmi in the same story, and each is responding to a real need.

What does "fortune" actually mean in this talk?

The second half of the title is where the speaker is most playful and most pointed. Asked what fortune is, he admits that everyone brings a private definition. Some want food, some domestic bliss, some money, some education. He adds the wry personal versions: "I can't be happy unless I have a swimming pool," or "I feel like I need to be a concert pianist to be happy." Then comes the line that reframes the whole idea: "She's got the market cornered on whatever it is that we want."

He returns to this point with a plain observation: "We all want this. We're all here because we want something." Fortune, in this frame, is not a vending machine of objects but the fulfillment of desire itself, and the goddess is the one you approach to ask for whatever you want.

Later in the excerpt the talk turns toward the practical side of wanting, the discipline of delayed gratification. The speaker uses an everyday contrast, choosing something deeper over the pull of video games, and he sums up the struggle with a line that carries the talk's tone: "Self-control is not living the dream." (Swami Arupeshananda, The Goddess of Fortune, around 50:38.) The segment is fragmentary in the transcript, but the through-line is clear. Asking for fortune is easy. Shaping the self who can receive it is the harder work.

Where to go from here

The excerpt covers the talk's foundations: the scandal of a multiplicity-denying philosophy, the claim that myth is a path rather than a falsehood, the Chandi image of the gathered goddess, and the redefinition of fortune as desire. To go deeper, watch the full talk, which runs over an hour and includes the speaker's further reflections on prayer, discipline, and the wanting that every listener brings into the room. If the Chandi story sparked something, read the Devi Mahatmya itself, the text the speaker names, and notice where its imagery meets your own private fantasies. If you find yourself asking what you actually want from fortune, start with the speaker's simplest challenge: name it honestly, then ask what kind of person you would have to become to hold it.

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[0:10] Glor

[0:32] to you.

[0:38] Sing

[0:41] glory

[0:43] [singing]

[0:43] to you.

[0:57] The

[0:59] world

[1:05] is

[1:14] sincerity

[1:25] and crush

[1:27] Receive [singing]

[1:49] me

[1:55] and

[2:06] our sins.

[2:22] >> [music]

[2:25] >> your grad.

[2:40] [music]

[2:49] angot.

[3:04] [music]

[3:06] [singing]

[3:25] Lord,

[3:32] you are a temple

[3:37] of

[3:45] that you

[3:48] are

[4:02] Sing.

[4:21] [clears throat]

[4:27] Oh

[4:33] son

[4:41] May

[4:44] your

[4:56] adra

[5:19] Shanty, shanty, shanty.

[5:27] Lead us from the unreal to the real.

[5:33] Lead us from darkness unto light.

[5:37] Lead us from death to immortality.

[5:43] Reach us through and through ourselves,

[5:46] O Lord,

[5:49] and protect us ever more with your

[5:51] loving presence.

[5:55] Oh peace, peace, peace.

[6:03] >> Good morning.

[6:06] Uh my name is Swami Aru Peshananda and

[6:09] the title of today's talk is the goddess

[6:14] of fortune.

[6:16] And so two questions immediately come up

[6:22] when you hear the goddess of fortune.

[6:26] What is a goddess? What is a fortune?

[6:30] So

[6:32] I remember when I was in elementary

[6:34] school a long time ago now back in the

[6:37] 70s um the teacher told us that Hinduism

[6:41] was polytheism that they believed in

[6:43] many gods

[6:45] and I remember thinking well that

[6:48] doesn't sound like such a great idea and

[6:49] that Christianity was monotheism there's

[6:51] only one god I thought that makes more

[6:54] sense

[6:56] but that was a misunderstanding of what

[6:59] This idea of gods and goddesses are in

[7:02] Hinduism.

[7:04] You know, we have these super high

[7:07] almost inaccessible truths in the

[7:09] Mahavakyas. I'm sorry. And I got ahead

[7:11] of myself there. In the vadas, which are

[7:14] called mahavakas,

[7:17] a braasmi, [snorts]

[7:18] I am Brahman. Tatamasi that thou arts.

[7:22] Nha nasti kinchana.

[7:26] There is no multiplicity whatsoever.

[7:30] You think about that one for a second.

[7:32] There is no multiplicity whatsoever.

[7:35] Well, here I am. Here you are. We're

[7:39] different. And I'm I'm a person and this

[7:42] is a podium. That's different.

[7:44] Multiplicity. It's my right hand. Left

[7:47] hand. They're they're not the same.

[7:49] Multiplicity is everywhere. It is our

[7:51] experience in everyday life. This is

[7:53] directly contravening everything we've

[7:55] ever known since day one of existence

[7:57] here on this world. And so we think,

[8:02] what were these rishies smoking?

[8:05] What is this? It doesn't make any sense

[8:06] to me. [clears throat]

[8:08] And so what do we get?

[8:12] We get stories. We get the itas and the

[8:15] piranhas and all these stories of gods

[8:18] and goddesses and people and magical

[8:20] talking frogs and all these things to

[8:24] illustrate these high more or less

[8:28] inaccessible teachings. They are so

[8:30] esoteric and these manifestations take

[8:33] the form of rituals, mythology and they

[8:38] take different shapes and and

[8:41] appearances

[8:42] as they trickle through different

[8:44] societies. And so you find in India

[8:48] that

[8:50] this goddess of fortune frequently

[8:51] called mother Lakshmi is celebrated in

[8:54] many different ways in many different

[8:55] places and at many different times.

[8:58] Today just happens to be her birthday

[9:01] for most of eastern parts of India like

[9:04] Bengal.

[9:05] Whereas we find in the north places like

[9:08] Delhi that you actually have more of a a

[9:11] Lakshmi celebration at Diwali which is

[9:14] not for several days.

[9:17] So the manifestation of these gods and

[9:19] goddesses are different and the aspects

[9:21] that are important to the various

[9:23] societies are emphasized. So we find

[9:27] that the goddess of fortune in some

[9:29] parts of the Indian subcontinent

[9:32] is considered primarily to be an

[9:34] agricultural

[9:37] uh benefactor.

[9:39] In other parts, the obvious one, money,

[9:42] we all think about that.

[9:45] And then in some places she's actually

[9:46] considered to be the giver of education.

[9:51] In some places she's considered to be

[9:53] the giver of domestic bliss

[9:57] or societal peace. That's another one.

[10:00] So all these things the goddess of

[10:02] fortune is attributed is attributed to

[10:05] her in various parts of the subcontinent

[10:08] because that's what those societies

[10:10] needed. That's what they valued for

[10:11] whatever reason. And the celebrations

[10:14] and mythology around these versions of

[10:16] Lakshmi take different forms.

[10:20] So I say this word mythology but I think

[10:22] it's important to understand

[10:26] that that doesn't mean it's false or

[10:30] made up. People have experiences

[10:35] of these manifestations of the one

[10:39] that are in fact said to be

[10:43] more real than the experience that we're

[10:46] having here right now.

[10:48] The experience we're having here right

[10:50] now is mediated.

[10:54] It is mediated through the mind and the

[10:56] senses. I perceive you. I see your face

[11:01] and I infer something about your state

[11:03] of mind. You're bored or you're

[11:06] irritated or you're happy to be here.

[11:08] Whatever it is,

[11:11] that's our ordinary perception here.

[11:16] These experiences that we have of gods

[11:20] and goddesses

[11:22] are not like that.

[11:24] It is said

[11:27] that we withdraw the mind from this

[11:30] external perception.

[11:32] We completely pull it within and focus

[11:35] it on our chosen ideal. Today I'm

[11:38] picking Lakshmi.

[11:41] And when we succeed in this,

[11:44] and those of us who have made a regular

[11:47] practice of prayer and meditation know

[11:50] just how lofty of an objective that is.

[11:53] But when we succeed in this, we have an

[11:56] experience that is more real than this

[12:00] one because it is not mediated by

[12:04] anything. It is a direct perception.

[12:07] Aparrochia it is called a direct

[12:09] perception. the mind is out of the way

[12:13] and it is far more intense than the

[12:16] perception we're having here right now.

[12:20] So I do not mean to say by the use of

[12:22] the word mythology

[12:24] that these gods or goddesses are in some

[12:27] way less real than we are than our

[12:32] experiences. They are in fact more real

[12:35] than this experience.

[12:38] And [clears throat]

[12:41] I'll just share I mean if we're going to

[12:43] have visions of gods and goddesses I'll

[12:45] tell you one that I always thought

[12:47] because it's Lakshmi and I always

[12:49] thought this would be such a great

[12:50] vision to have if we're going to have a

[12:52] direct experience.

[12:54] Lakshmi is the second manifestation of

[12:57] the divine mother we find in the chundi.

[12:59] She is the one who kills Mahishur

[13:04] Mahalakshmi.

[13:05] So what happens is this terrible demon

[13:07] throws the gods out of heaven and they

[13:09] all go crying on the earth and they pray

[13:11] to their mom

[13:13] and what happens is this light comes out

[13:15] of the bodies of all the gods and it

[13:17] gathers into one form and becomes this

[13:21] giant goddess.

[13:24] She has a thousand arms and they

[13:25] decorate her with weapons and ornaments

[13:28] and flowers and and and jewels

[13:32] and then they worship her and and she's

[13:35] huge. She's got a sky a diadem it says

[13:38] that scrapes the sky. She's this giant

[13:42] thing

[13:44] and they experience great joy.

[13:47] And then it says the demons of course

[13:49] don't like this. They're threatened by

[13:50] it and they all rush to attack.

[13:53] And then in the book it says

[13:57] that she without any strain on her face

[14:02] and with gods and sages extolling her

[14:06] throws her weapons and arms at the

[14:07] bodies of the Asuras. I've always

[14:09] imagined this giant goddess with a

[14:12] thousand arms. And I picture uh I

[14:15] picture Holy Mother's face the standing

[14:17] pose, you know, where she's she's like

[14:18] this. She has this look of just like

[14:22] majestic motherhood on her face. So,

[14:25] I've always imagined Holy Mother's face

[14:27] in that photo and and this giant goddess

[14:31] with all these arms and and you know, up

[14:34] in the clouds there's the sages

[14:36] and and uh the divine beings that are

[14:39] are worshiping her and singing her

[14:40] praises. And with her lower arm, she's

[14:42] just kind of tossing these weapons at

[14:44] these demons. No problem.

[14:48] So that is just my personal little

[14:52] fantasy so far.

[14:55] But um anyway, these experiences of gods

[14:59] and goddesses are blissful, beautiful,

[15:01] transformational.

[15:05] So [clears throat]

[15:08] how that's it for goddesses? How about

[15:12] fortune? What is a fortune?

[15:16] Um well like I alluded to already with

[15:20] the observance of mother Lakshmi's

[15:23] celebration we have all kinds of

[15:25] different ideas about what a fortune is

[15:28] we have you know food domestic bliss

[15:32] money education all these things we have

[15:34] an idea of what a fortune is and we have

[15:36] our own idiosyncratic ideas too I think

[15:39] I can't be happy unless I have a

[15:41] swimming pool

[15:43] well the goddess of portion is the one

[15:45] to talk to. She's got all the swimming

[15:47] pools

[15:49] or I feel like I need to be a concert

[15:53] chist to be happy. Well, she's the one

[15:55] to talk to. She's going to make you the

[15:56] concert chist if that's what you think

[15:57] you have to be. She's got the market

[15:59] cornered on whatever it is that we want.

[16:02] This is the fortune that I am talking

[16:04] about today. So, she is the one to ask

[16:08] for whatever you want. And so this, of

[16:11] course, is something that everyone

[16:13] walking God's green earth is interested

[16:14] in. We all want this. We're all here

[16:18] because we want something.

[16:21] And so, of course, I'm sure this talk

[16:23] will get millions and millions of hits

[16:25] on YouTube because everybody [laughter]

[16:28] everybody wants to know about this. Um,

[16:33] so [clears throat] what am I going to

[16:36] talk about today?

[16:38] I'm going to talk about first of all

[16:41] what we want a little bit more closely

[16:45] and then I'm going to talk about before

[16:47] I talk about how to get what we want,

[16:50] I'm going to talk about how not to get

[16:53] what we want.

[16:55] Then I'm going to talk about how to get

[16:56] what we want.

[16:58] And then I'm going to talk about what we

[17:00] really want.

[17:03] What we want to want. call it that.

[17:07] So that's sort of my approach today.

[17:10] So first of all,

[17:13] what exactly is it that we want? I

[17:16] listed some of these things already, but

[17:18] I'm going to go through them a little

[17:19] more carefully.

[17:21] Obviously, we want money. Everybody says

[17:23] Lakshmi. They think money. Most people,

[17:25] I think, think of money when they think

[17:27] of Lakshmi. Yes, we need money. On the

[17:29] other hand, the ancient Hindus were

[17:32] right. We also, she's got an

[17:34] agricultural purpose. There aren't many

[17:36] farmers in Hollywood, probably zero.

[17:38] But, uh, we need food. And, you know, if

[17:41] you've got money and no food, no good.

[17:45] There's got to be food around. You can't

[17:46] eat your money. So, we have to have

[17:48] food, money. And then, if we have both

[17:51] of those things, still without an

[17:53] education, we feel like we're not really

[17:55] fortunate

[17:57] because there's other people, they seem

[17:59] to know more than we do. And so we feel

[18:01] like we should have some kind of

[18:02] education. And then even if you have

[18:04] money, food, and an education,

[18:06] if you have no domestic peace, if your

[18:10] spouse is a philandering drunkard or

[18:13] your kids are irresponsible

[18:15] narring your car and making your life

[18:18] miserable, you're not going to feel like

[18:19] you are fortunate. Even with all that,

[18:22] you feel like you're not fortunate. And

[18:24] then even if you have all of those

[18:26] things, you've got money, you've got

[18:28] food, you've got an education, and your

[18:30] family is happy.

[18:33] If there are angry mobs roaming the

[18:35] streets, and you fear for your safety,

[18:38] well, you're going to feel like you're

[18:39] not fortunate. So the point is this all

[18:42] these things

[18:44] money, food, education,

[18:49] family peace, societal peace, all these

[18:53] things are required for us

[18:57] to feel like we are fortunate. We need

[19:00] all of these conditions to be fulfilled.

[19:04] If we are looking for a feeling of

[19:06] material fortune

[19:10] and if you think about that this is kind

[19:12] of the Toltoy problem you've all you're

[19:14] all familiar with Ana Cararanina I think

[19:17] it's the first sentence he says all

[19:19] happy families are alike but each

[19:20] miserable family is miserable in its own

[19:22] unique way

[19:25] we understand the points in order to be

[19:27] happy here many conditions must be

[19:31] fulfilled

[19:33] in order to be miserable. Here there are

[19:35] so many options.

[19:38] Infinitely many uncountably many

[19:40] infinitely infinite options to be

[19:42] miserable. Choose your poison. So many

[19:44] of them.

[19:47] Now stop right there and think about

[19:49] that.

[19:50] This is the paradigm for existence on

[19:53] this rock.

[19:54] Somehow this is where we landed. We're

[19:58] just passing through here, but this is

[20:00] the experience we're having.

[20:03] And you can't help but wonder. You look

[20:05] up at the sky. Well, you don't see it in

[20:06] Hollywood, but I used to live in the

[20:07] desert and there's all these stars out

[20:09] there. And they tell us that these stars

[20:12] have exoplanets. So many of them.

[20:16] Is this the only model for individual

[20:18] existence? This kind of dog eat dog

[20:20] experience that we have here. Is that

[20:21] all that's available to us? It's an

[20:23] interesting question. It's not the one

[20:24] I'm going to talk about today.

[20:27] That's a question for another day, but I

[20:30] think I might pursue that one. Um

[20:33] [clears throat]

[20:35] okay so where am I?

[20:39] Ah yes

[20:41] the spiritual fortune.

[20:44] Mother Lakshmi is also considered

[20:47] the source of spiritual fortune. And

[20:50] what is so interesting about spiritual

[20:53] fortune

[20:56] is that it is not like the rest of these

[20:58] things.

[21:00] It does not depend on anything else.

[21:03] If you have the spiritual joy,

[21:07] if your heart is really full of bliss,

[21:11] if you really have that,

[21:14] nothing else matters.

[21:16] You do not care about food, money,

[21:19] family, society, any of it. Nothing.

[21:23] The full heart

[21:26] is the answer to all of our issues here.

[21:32] I used to tell this to the new guys in

[21:34] Trabuko when they would show up. I would

[21:36] say monastic life has its ups and downs

[21:41] and um anyone who has lived even for a

[21:44] few days in a monastery has figured that

[21:46] out.

[21:47] Um, but I also said

[21:51] if it's working for you in the shrine,

[21:55] nothing else matters.

[21:57] That's what matters. If you can get it

[21:59] to work in the shrine, then you don't

[22:02] care about if brother so and so has got

[22:04] the peanut butter in the pantry or in

[22:06] the refrigerator, makes no difference.

[22:09] But if you don't have it working in the

[22:10] shrine, these other things become

[22:12] incredibly important.

[22:16] And so make it work in the shrine.

[22:18] Nothing else matters. But as we know,

[22:21] those of us who do this and try this,

[22:23] like I said before, this is not so easy

[22:25] to do. It's the pearl of great price,

[22:29] but it works. And if you don't believe

[22:32] me, I looked up a quote from Mother

[22:34] Teresa, not Mother Teresa, um, St.

[22:36] Teresa, St. Teresa of Aila.

[22:39] She talks about the effect

[22:43] of spiritual ecstasy on our lives. After

[22:46] you've had a genuine experience of

[22:48] spiritual ecstasy, what does it do for

[22:50] you?

[22:52] She says, "The soul after such a favor

[22:57] is animated with a degree of courage

[23:01] that if at that moment its body should

[23:04] be torn to pieces for the cause of God,

[23:07] it would not feel anything but the

[23:09] liveliest comfort."

[23:13] It now sees in name and fame nothing

[23:15] more than an immense lie

[23:21] of which the world remains a victim.

[23:25] It laughs at itself

[23:28] that there was ever a time in life when

[23:30] it worried about money that it ever

[23:33] cared anything for money.

[23:37] So there you go. After this happens,

[23:41] not only do we not care about money and

[23:43] food, we don't care about personal

[23:44] comfort or even personal safety.

[23:48] That fullness of the heart is that good.

[23:52] That's the lesson and that's what we're

[23:54] shooting for here. And this really I'm

[23:56] getting ahead of myself a little bit.

[23:58] This is what we want to want.

[24:01] But we're not quite sold on this right

[24:04] now because we don't think it's going to

[24:07] happen or we've got other things to do

[24:09] or the rent is calling or I've got this

[24:11] or that or it sounds good but but what

[24:14] if it doesn't work and then I still need

[24:16] food and and and and money and I now I

[24:20] don't have anything. I didn't get the

[24:21] spiritual thing and I don't get the food

[24:22] and now where am I? Um

[24:27] but [clears throat]

[24:31] we think this we think we need money and

[24:33] food and of course an education would be

[24:36] nice. Happy family would be nice. Those

[24:39] things are essential society that would

[24:41] be good too if the neighbors are happy.

[24:43] Some of us actually don't care about

[24:44] that too much.

[24:46] We think that if we just

[24:49] earn enough money, then we can hire some

[24:52] enough security to keep the unwashed

[24:54] masses away.

[24:57] And um that's better than paying taxes.

[25:01] So

[25:02] we decide that all I really need to do

[25:05] is make my own and protect my own.

[25:09] That brings me to how not to get what we

[25:14] want. That's an example of how not to

[25:16] get what we want. The ancient Hindus are

[25:18] not libertarians.

[25:21] What we earn honestly through our hard

[25:24] work is not ours to keep entirely for

[25:27] ourselves. We have a debt to society.

[25:30] According to the ancient Hindus and

[25:31] according to the modern Hindus, Swami

[25:34] Vivicanand says that every man for

[25:37] himself

[25:39] should be the motto of the householder

[25:41] never and nowhere.

[25:44] So we have a debt to our fellows. And

[25:49] yet when we acquire beyond our means, it

[25:54] has a tendency to blind us to this.

[25:57] We have a tendency to lose sight of

[25:59] this. I found a fascinating actually

[26:01] this I didn't find this recently. This

[26:03] is old. Uh it was a few years ago I read

[26:06] I think it was years ago. Whatever

[26:08] doesn't matter. Uh

[26:11] Bezos, we all know him. He's not the

[26:13] richest man in the world, but one of

[26:14] them.

[26:16] Uh he found, you know, he's got all

[26:18] these warehouses full of his toys and

[26:21] all these all these minions that are

[26:24] sorting through his stuff and and

[26:27] sending it out to the world so that he

[26:28] can get more money.

[26:31] And of course, what he wants to do is

[26:33] get as much work out of the minions as

[26:35] he possibly can and pay them as little

[26:37] as he has to. That's, you know, how it

[26:40] works, just business.

[26:42] And uh so he finds out

[26:47] that these people that are working for

[26:49] him are not entirely happy and they have

[26:52] certain needs that they want met and

[26:55] they are beginning to talk about these

[26:56] things and collectively

[26:59] bargain their thinking with their boss.

[27:01] Maybe we'll form some unions.

[27:04] And of course this is the nightmare of

[27:06] every bureaucrat.

[27:09] And so what does he do?

[27:13] Does he try and find out what they want?

[27:18] Do they want a dental plan? Do they want

[27:21] a retirement 401k? Is that what does he

[27:24] do that? No, he does not do that.

[27:26] [snorts]

[27:27] Instead, what he does is he hires a

[27:30] bunch of private investigators

[27:33] to infiltrate his warehouses,

[27:37] find out who the union agitators are,

[27:42] and then have them fired.

[27:44] That is the solution that he comes up

[27:46] with. Now, you think about it.

[27:50] You take that same money and give them a

[27:52] dental plan.

[27:57] Isn't that a better way to solve the

[27:58] problem? But see that what happens to us

[28:02] when we amass, when we hoard, when we

[28:04] are greedy. This is greed. When we get

[28:07] in the habit of hoarding, we get in the

[28:09] habit of protecting ours from external

[28:13] threats, real and imagined.

[28:17] We form such a habit of thinking that

[28:20] even when a charitable beneficial act is

[28:23] in our own best interest, we fail to see

[28:26] it.

[28:29] Our habits of hoarding and protecting

[28:32] has made us mean and petty and

[28:35] small-minded. Even if we own a huge

[28:37] thing like Amazon, still we cannot see

[28:40] clearly the more benevolent path because

[28:44] we're so out of the habit of thinking

[28:45] that way.

[28:49] [clears throat]

[28:52] By contrast,

[28:55] when we think charitably,

[28:59] when we go for the dental plan, we are

[29:01] enlarging ourself.

[29:04] We are identifying with something bigger

[29:06] than our stuff and our bodies.

[29:10] We are identifying if it's a dental plan

[29:13] with the common pl plight of humanity.

[29:16] We all have teeth. They all hurt. I'm

[29:18] part of the bigger picture here. I'm

[29:21] working on behalf of something larger

[29:23] than just a business.

[29:26] I'm working for the welfare of the

[29:28] general population that expands my sense

[29:31] of self.

[29:33] It also makes me feel good.

[29:37] It makes me feel good. Why does it make

[29:39] me feel good?

[29:41] Because an expanded sense of self,

[29:43] according to Vidanta, is closer to what

[29:45] we really are.

[29:47] When we hoard and protect our personal

[29:50] interest, we strengthen that idea of

[29:53] personal self, this body being the self.

[29:55] When we act on the in the interest of

[29:59] our fellow man, we expand our sense of

[30:01] self to something greater than that.

[30:04] This is closer to what we really are.

[30:09] And there's a tremendous lesson in here

[30:11] for us.

[30:14] What is it?

[30:17] If you want to be happy,

[30:21] pray that you may be a source of

[30:23] happiness for others.

[30:26] If you want to be comfortable,

[30:29] pray that you may be a source of comfort

[30:30] to others. If you want to be rich, pray

[30:34] that you may be a source of wealth to

[30:35] others because you cannot give what you

[30:37] do not have.

[30:40] And when you give, we have the spiritual

[30:44] benefits.

[30:46] We expand our sense of self. We grow.

[30:49] And we feel good about ourselves.

[30:55] But

[30:58] we have become so

[31:02] inured to this way of thinking

[31:05] because life, this world is hard and it

[31:07] drives us to work and we find that we

[31:10] have to struggle for our existence and

[31:11] we get in this habit of struggling for

[31:13] our existence.

[31:15] And so we forget these kinds of things.

[31:17] Although we know it deep down,

[31:20] the daily grind just grinds it out of

[31:22] us. And and yet our divinity, that inner

[31:26] voice of divinity, won't quite let us

[31:28] go. It won't let us off the hook. We get

[31:31] these little qualms of conscience.

[31:33] Shouldn't I be doing something bigger

[31:35] than this? Am I not bigger than this?

[31:39] So, we get these little pangs of of

[31:42] doubt in our life. And of course, we

[31:45] don't like that. And so we go to a

[31:47] preacher to have him tell us that

[31:48] everything's okay. And there's no

[31:50] shortage of them that will tell us

[31:54] that a life of material prosperity is in

[31:57] fact a sign of great spirituality.

[32:00] You find this in every religion that to

[32:02] be rich is actually to be holy. Um in

[32:07] this country I think the most prominent

[32:09] movement in this direction is the uh

[32:11] prosperity gospel.

[32:13] Heard of that prosperity gospel. Some of

[32:16] you have

[32:18] um so somehow

[32:22] uh Jesus came to make us all rich

[32:25] and being a sign being poor is actually

[32:28] a sign of

[32:31] spiritual retardation.

[32:34] Never mind the fact that Jesus was

[32:35] homeless and didn't have any money.

[32:37] That's we're going to just sort of iron

[32:39] smooth out that wrinkle somehow. But you

[32:42] see, I won't I won't bother to refute

[32:45] the prosperity gospel. There's no points

[32:48] because people hear what they want to

[32:50] hear and they disregard what they don't.

[32:52] As Swami Vivikananda said, paraphrasing,

[32:55] if you want to give religion to a thief,

[32:57] you have got to tell them that stealing

[32:58] is holy.

[33:01] And there is no shortage of people who

[33:05] are lined up to do just that. Yes, I

[33:07] will clear your conscience. Just sign

[33:08] right here. Write me a check.

[33:10] Hilariously, I cannot resist this.

[33:14] One of the prime advocates of this

[33:17] prosperity gospel in this country, one

[33:19] of the most prominent people is Pastor

[33:22] Dollar.

[33:24] [laughter]

[33:25] >> You just you can't make this up. You

[33:28] cannot make that up. Pastor Dollar. He's

[33:30] also called Dr. Dollar because he has a

[33:33] doctorate in something. So, Pastor Dr.

[33:36] Dollar and he was born that way. He did

[33:38] not take that name. So this is God's

[33:40] sense of humor which you really I mean

[33:43] you can't compete with God's sense of

[33:44] humor. Uh [clears throat]

[33:48] so we have this idea in religion

[33:52] that uh we can be rich

[33:56] and still be spiritual. And it's not

[33:58] entirely false

[34:01] because religion does promise

[34:03] prosperity.

[34:04] It does. And this is something that the

[34:07] prosperity gospel people are fond of

[34:08] quoting. It is John 10:10. Uh I am come.

[34:12] That's I Jesus. I am come that they

[34:14] might have life and they might have it

[34:16] more abundantly. Abundant life. Jesus

[34:20] promises us abundant life.

[34:23] In the Quran we read, "Whoever does

[34:26] righteousness, whether male or female,

[34:28] while being a believer, we will surely

[34:31] cause him to live a good life,

[34:34] abundant life. the good life. This is

[34:37] what we want.

[34:41] [clears throat] In Hinduism, of course,

[34:43] we have this idea of artha, wealth. It

[34:45] is a legitimate objective for human

[34:47] existence. We are allowed to pursue

[34:50] wealth. Sri Krishna even says that the

[34:52] people who come to him praying for

[34:53] wealth are noble. He lists four kinds of

[34:56] people that come to him praying and he

[34:58] says noble indeed. And one of them prays

[35:00] for wealth. He says noble indeed are all

[35:02] these.

[35:04] So it is a noble thing to go to Krishna

[35:07] and ask for wealth.

[35:11] And so [sighs] there is some balance

[35:15] here that we could achieve something

[35:18] that will allow us to have a fortune

[35:22] here in whatever sense we take that term

[35:25] and grow spiritually at the same time.

[35:28] There is a way to do this

[35:31] and that's something I think as at least

[35:34] all of us here today and I think maybe

[35:36] even people who are not here today would

[35:38] be interested in

[35:40] how to live an abundant good life

[35:44] satisfying life and grow spiritually at

[35:47] the same time. I think this is something

[35:49] we all want to do.

[35:52] And so [clears throat] this brings me

[35:56] to the next part of this talk, which is

[35:57] how to get what we want. What I just

[35:59] talked about was how not to get what we

[36:01] want. And that's the Bezos way. And

[36:05] what's wrong with the Bezos way?

[36:08] The Bezos way is that he's not enjoying

[36:11] his money.

[36:13] That's the problem.

[36:17] He is

[36:19] by protecting and hoarding and having

[36:22] this

[36:24] idea in his mind of threats all the

[36:26] time. He is serving his money.

[36:31] That's not what we want. That's not

[36:32] really a fortune. You don't want to

[36:35] serve your money. You want your money to

[36:37] serve you. That's what we want.

[36:40] >> [snorts]

[36:41] >> And I think there's a holy mother quote

[36:42] here that I think captures this. Um, so

[36:47] what happens? There is uh a mother and a

[36:50] daughter. They come to visit holy mother

[36:52] and they're poor

[36:55] and so they got no land and so they got

[36:58] no food and so they're hungry and they

[37:01] come to Holy Mother hungry and poor and

[37:04] desperate.

[37:06] It's a mother and a daughter. Did I say

[37:07] that already? It's a mother and a

[37:09] daughter. And the daughter apparently

[37:13] eats and eats and eats and eats until

[37:16] she cannot get up. She is actually lying

[37:19] flat on the ground or on the floor,

[37:21] whatever it is there. And she can't

[37:23] move. She has eaten so much food.

[37:28] So then finally somehow they leave. I

[37:30] don't know, they take her out on a

[37:32] stretcher or whatever, but they she

[37:33] leaves.

[37:35] Holy mother's comment. She says,

[37:39] "What poverty, what greed,

[37:43] the girl ate and ate until she was about

[37:46] to vomit. Such a big girl and no sense

[37:49] at all.

[37:51] Nothing will benefit these people.

[37:54] Prosperity will never attend them." Now,

[37:58] that last line I thought was

[37:59] interesting. Prosperity will never

[38:01] attend. Is it them? attend on them.

[38:04] Prosperity will never attend on them.

[38:09] See, that's what we want. It turns out

[38:12] what that I I looked it up. I was

[38:14] curious. And the original bangala is lmi

[38:17] charar dosha which means literally I

[38:21] mean figuratively it means you know

[38:23] these people are kind of losers but

[38:26] literally what it means is a state where

[38:29] Lakshmi has left the person.

[38:34] And so I thought that was interesting.

[38:37] That's what we see. This is what we

[38:40] really want. We don't want what Bezos

[38:42] has. Maybe we think we do. I would

[38:45] handle it better. That's what we think.

[38:46] Give me his money and I'll see how I

[38:47] handle it. Uh

[38:50] but

[38:53] that problem he has where he is

[38:55] constantly serving and fighting for his

[38:57] money.

[38:59] He's not enjoying his fortune. We want

[39:01] our fortune to attend on us. We want to

[39:04] enjoy our fortune. That's being

[39:06] fortunate.

[39:09] That's the idea that Holy Mother gives

[39:11] here. And what's the problem with these

[39:13] people? How come they're not going to

[39:14] get this? What do they lack?

[39:18] They lack

[39:20] self-control,

[39:22] self-regulation, moderation.

[39:25] [snorts] The girl eats and eats and eats

[39:26] until she can't get up.

[39:28] Mother Locki doesn't like that. She

[39:30] doesn't want us to behave that way. And

[39:33] this is basically kind of how we are.

[39:34] You see um you know the kids in the the

[39:37] little toddlers in the supermarket with

[39:39] their moms. You know, mother Lakshmi is

[39:42] our mom. This is the divine mother.

[39:44] She's our mom and she doesn't want us to

[39:47] behave this way. But you see it all the

[39:48] time in the supermarkets. Little kids

[39:49] with their moms. They're walking around.

[39:51] They want to put every shiny thing in

[39:52] their mouth.

[39:55] you know, the big blue hockey puck. Put

[39:57] it in your mouth. No, it's a urinal

[39:58] cake. It's toilet bowl cleaner. You

[40:00] don't put that in your mouth. And and

[40:03] so, you know, you take that away from

[40:04] the kid and he screams and cries, "My

[40:07] mother's such a villain. She never gives

[40:08] me anything that I want." We have this

[40:10] idea, but you know,

[40:15] we haven't really changed that much.

[40:18] We're still kind of the little kids in

[40:20] the grocery store wandering around here

[40:22] and putting trying to put everything in

[40:23] our mouth. That's kind of what we're

[40:24] doing. I mean, we're just a little bit

[40:25] more sophisticated about it, but it's

[40:27] our basic approach. You see it, you want

[40:29] it, you have it, take it, mine, all of

[40:31] it all the time. That is our default

[40:34] reaction or our default reaction to our

[40:36] the external stimulation that is

[40:38] constantly being thrown at us in this

[40:40] world.

[40:41] You, you know, they sift through the

[40:42] stuff you don't like and the stuff you

[40:43] do like, swallow it, keep it.

[40:47] Well, this [clears throat] is not

[40:51] how to get fortune to attend on us.

[40:56] We can't just eat, see it, and eat it

[40:59] over and over and over again until we

[41:00] get sick and expect mother Lakshmi to be

[41:04] pleased with us and expect to be living

[41:06] the good life, living the life abundant.

[41:08] That's not how we do it. It's the sort

[41:10] of instinctual reaction, but it's not

[41:13] spiritual life.

[41:16] So, [clears throat]

[41:18] how do we practice this self-control?

[41:20] What is the first step?

[41:23] According to the wisdom of the east, the

[41:25] first step is to realize that desire is

[41:29] the problem.

[41:32] So, we don't understand this. We get we

[41:35] want a new car and we buy a new car and

[41:37] we get the new car and we're so happy

[41:40] for a while

[41:43] and then we think gosh this new car made

[41:46] me so happy. No. According to this

[41:48] thinking, what made us happy is we no

[41:49] longer have the desire for the car.

[41:52] That's what made us happy. The absence

[41:53] of desire is what makes us happy. Then

[41:55] we drive the car around for a couple of

[41:57] weeks and think, well, it doesn't quite

[41:58] do this or that or the other thing and

[41:59] the floor mats are getting dirty and now

[42:01] it's time for another car. And if we buy

[42:03] a new car every time the floor mats get

[42:05] dirty, according to this thinking, we

[42:06] will never satisfy our desire for cars.

[42:10] In fact, it will just get worse. This is

[42:13] what we're told. For those of you this

[42:15] doesn't sound familiar, I'll quote it.

[42:16] It's the bog vot. Desire cannot be

[42:18] quenched by the fulfillment of its urge.

[42:21] Desire cannot be quenched by the

[42:23] fulfillment of its urge. Desire

[42:26] increases by its fulfillment. As when

[42:28] clarified butter is poured over fire, it

[42:31] increases the velocity of ferocity of

[42:33] the flame.

[42:35] And um the same thing works for not just

[42:40] possessions but lust and fame as well.

[42:42] Hilariously,

[42:44] our wonderful President Donald Trump a

[42:46] few days ago floated the idea of naming

[42:49] an ocean after himself. [laughter]

[42:52] He wants an ocean named after himself.

[42:54] Now, this man has put his name on

[42:58] buildings for decades. Got the Trump

[43:01] Tower and the Trump Casino, and now

[43:02] we're going to have the Trump Ocean.

[43:05] I don't even know how you do that.

[43:07] [laughter]

[43:09] But you see, he's not learning the

[43:11] lesson here. It's just getting worse.

[43:13] And I'm not talking about his politics.

[43:15] You may not may not agree with his

[43:17] policies. That's not what this is about.

[43:18] I cannot help working this guy into a

[43:20] sermon every once in a while because he

[43:22] is a consistent example of how not to be

[43:24] spiritual. Doesn't necessarily make him

[43:26] a bad politician.

[43:28] In fact, it might make him a pretty good

[43:29] one. But on the other hand, as a

[43:31] spiritual exemplar, he is a perfect

[43:33] counter example to so many teachings

[43:37] and this is one of them. Trump Ocean.

[43:43] [clears throat] He cannot understand

[43:46] this simple thing.

[43:48] What's the simple truth? Putting your

[43:51] name on a building does not change who

[43:54] you are. It doesn't make you bigger.

[43:57] Putting your name on an ocean, however

[43:59] you do that, doesn't change who you are

[44:00] or make you bigger. He can't get this

[44:04] because he's been consuming his whole

[44:06] life and his and his viewpoint is

[44:07] distorted.

[44:11] [clears throat] So

[44:13] the way around this, the way to fulfill

[44:16] our needs is not through satiety. It is

[44:20] through controlled indulgence, temperate

[44:23] indulgence.

[44:24] We have to temper this. And of course,

[44:27] this is the last thing we want to do. We

[44:29] want to bite the apple, eat the whole

[44:31] thing, swallow it all. I told this, it

[44:34] was um

[44:37] hilarious at USC a few days ago.

[44:39] Somebody asked about um this

[44:41] self-control business and I said,

[44:44] uh, you know, instead of playing video

[44:46] games, they're younger. Uh, instead of

[44:48] playing video games, you know, practice

[44:50] yoga, practice yoga. This is an

[44:52] austerity, right? The horror on his

[44:54] face. My god, that's austerity.

[44:58] uh we have this idea that self-control

[45:01] is pain

[45:03] self-denial it's a painful thing

[45:09] it is and you know I won't deny it's not

[45:12] painless but it is not a state of pain

[45:15] how do we overcome this don't just cut

[45:19] the video games off or whatever it is

[45:21] ice cream Netflix whatever our our we

[45:24] get home from work and we do something

[45:25] we had a rough day and We have our

[45:28] indulgence, coping mechanism, whatever

[45:30] you want to call it

[45:32] for, you know, the 20some age group,

[45:34] video games. I think teenagers, too. Um,

[45:40] I'm a big advocate of spiritual

[45:42] gratification delay.

[45:44] It doesn't mean you cut it off because

[45:47] that's too painful. Nobody wants to do

[45:49] that.

[45:51] What it means is you give God the first

[45:58] hour or half an hour, not less than a

[46:01] half an hour. Uh you give God the first

[46:04] half an hour after work. You come home

[46:06] and you want to do whatever you want to

[46:07] do.

[46:09] First

[46:10] give some time to God and then go do

[46:13] your thing, whatever it is.

[46:17] I say this because I've seen it work in

[46:19] my own life and the lives of others.

[46:20] It's a kind of balance, a very practical

[46:23] method of self-control that is not that

[46:26] painful. If you can just delay it for a

[46:28] half an hour while you pray and meditate

[46:30] or do your yoga practice, whatever it

[46:32] is,

[46:33] then after you're finished, what happens

[46:37] when you go to, you know, pick your

[46:38] poison and when you go to it?

[46:41] Two things. First of all, you won't feel

[46:43] so guilty about it.

[46:46] I practiced my yoga. Now I can do this.

[46:48] The second thing

[46:51] is that you somehow or other through

[46:53] this practice of yoga will begin to see

[46:56] through it. It will not have the same

[46:58] appeal that it had before.

[47:02] That's the magic of this prayer and

[47:03] meditation is that our poison that we

[47:06] need so much at the end of the day

[47:09] doesn't quite have the same appeal as it

[47:11] once did.

[47:15] So that is why this self-control isn't

[47:19] self-denial.

[47:23] We gradually outgrow these lower

[47:27] desires. They don't appeal to us as much

[47:30] as they once did. I don't have to fight

[47:32] the urge to play video games

[47:35] and a bunch of other things that I don't

[47:37] have to. And we all have things that we

[47:38] urges that we don't have to fight. We

[47:40] have certain things that just don't

[47:42] appeal to us. According to vdantic

[47:44] thinking, it's because we have already

[47:46] seen through them.

[47:48] And we have to do the same thing in this

[47:50] life. We have to see through these

[47:52] things.

[47:56] And I advocate spiritual gratification

[47:58] delay self-control. And you say, "Well,

[48:00] that doesn't really sound like what I

[48:02] want. I don't want self-control. I want

[48:04] to I want to bite the apple. I want to

[48:05] eat the whole thing. I want to play the

[48:07] video game until I rescue the princess

[48:10] or kill the dragon or whatever it is or

[48:12] shoot the bad guy, whatever. I want to

[48:13] win. I want to win. I want to have it

[48:16] all.

[48:18] But see, it doesn't work. And if you

[48:20] don't believe me, I quote psychologist,

[48:22] her name is Kelly McGonagal. She's out

[48:24] of Stanford.

[48:26] She says,

[48:29] "Studies have found that people with

[48:31] self-control

[48:32] lead better and more fulfilling lives

[48:34] than those without self-control by

[48:36] almost any metric.

[48:40] Self-control has been shown to be more

[48:42] important to academic success at

[48:44] university than intelligence."

[48:47] Kind of makes sense. You might get a

[48:49] high score on the SAT, but if you can't

[48:51] stay away from the frat parties, you're

[48:52] probably not going to make it out of

[48:53] college.

[48:56] On the other hand, if you're not so

[48:58] smart, but you can stay in the library

[48:59] on the weekends, you got a shot at it.

[49:04] [cough and clears throat]

[49:06] Self-control is more capable of

[49:08] effective leadership than charisma.

[49:10] Another one that makes sense. You have

[49:11] to respect your leader. If your leader

[49:14] throwing temper tantrums and and and has

[49:16] whatever other lack of self-control

[49:19] issues, you're going to think, "Well, I

[49:20] don't think I'm gonna follow this guy."

[49:23] you know, it doesn't matter if they're

[49:25] good-looking or whatever. If they've got

[49:27] some character flaw, you're going to

[49:29] think, "Well, this person needs to work

[49:30] on this, and I think I'll keep my

[49:31] distance."

[49:33] On the other hand, if we're steady, if

[49:35] we practice steadiness in our lives,

[49:38] balance,

[49:41] the people around us see that,

[49:44] they'll say, "Hey, this guy looks like

[49:45] he's kind of doing okay. What's he doing

[49:47] there? I think I'll try and practice

[49:49] steadiness and balance." It's a natural

[49:51] leadership.

[49:55] [clears throat]

[49:57] Self-control is more capable of of of

[50:00] where am I? Self-control is more capable

[50:02] of more important to a successful

[50:04] marriage than empathy. That's another

[50:07] one that's pretty easy to figure out. I

[50:09] mean, you got a very understanding

[50:11] husband who's a philanderer. Well,

[50:15] you know, it'd be nice to have someone

[50:16] that just didn't get into trouble.

[50:20] >> [cough]

[50:20] [clears throat]

[50:22] >> People with more self-control have

[50:24] higher self-esteem, more satisfying and

[50:26] longer relationships, better health,

[50:30] higher career advancements, and yes,

[50:32] more money. They even live longer.

[50:38] Self-control is not living the dream.

[50:42] It is the life abundant. The life

[50:44] abundant is not living the dream. The

[50:46] good life is not living the dream.

[50:49] But it is the life that brings us

[50:52] fulfillments

[50:54] and elevates us spiritually.

[51:00] See, we have this negative idea of

[51:02] religion that it's this denial thing.

[51:06] But what happens with this self-control

[51:08] practice when we see through these lower

[51:10] desires and we start to elevate our

[51:12] desires? We don't want them anymore. The

[51:14] self-control is gone. We're just not

[51:15] attracted to them anymore. We're

[51:17] attracted to something higher. This

[51:19] practice continues and continues and

[51:21] continues. We get finished with des

[51:24] lower desires one after another. Slowly

[51:28] and slowly we elevate our objective to a

[51:31] higher ideal.

[51:33] This is called probably a lot of you

[51:36] know purification of the heart. That's

[51:39] what this is. This is purification of

[51:41] the hearts. elevating our desire to a

[51:44] higher objective through temperate

[51:47] indulgence. This is what mother Lakshmi,

[51:49] the goddess of fortune, wants us to do.

[51:55] [clears throat]

[51:56] This is how we lead the good life. And

[51:58] it is not a life of repression or

[51:59] self-denial. It's a life of growth and

[52:02] satisfaction.

[52:04] It's the life abundant.

[52:08] And this purification of heart

[52:10] ultimately leads to a place where we

[52:12] want nothing but the highest.

[52:15] We have the highest possible objective

[52:18] that the human mind can conceive of

[52:20] which is God. And Christ says, "Blessed

[52:23] are the pure in heart, for they shall

[52:24] see God." And that's why

[52:27] because we have purified our intention

[52:31] over careful living for God knows how

[52:33] long. And then the grace descends on us.

[52:35] When we really want what we should want,

[52:38] what we when we want what we want to

[52:40] want,

[52:42] that's when the grace descends. That's

[52:44] when we get the fulfillments. And we

[52:45] think, okay, yeah, but

[52:50] the thing about God is I I just don't

[52:52] find him as interesting as a new car.

[52:54] See, we're we're we're conditioned. Our

[52:57] idea of God is conditioned because our

[52:58] practice of religion we find oppressive.

[53:01] We figure that that a religion that asks

[53:04] me to uh con to sort of restrain myself

[53:08] in this way, all these religions ask us

[53:10] to do this. You won't find one that

[53:11] doesn't. Well, that must be run by a god

[53:13] who wants me to restrain myself in a

[53:15] certain way. This god must be full of

[53:17] rules and regulations. And I don't think

[53:18] I want to get too involved with him

[53:20] because all of his religions are are

[53:22] troublesome and and full of regulation.

[53:24] I want freedom.

[53:27] We want freedom.

[53:30] But see what we don't understand

[53:33] is that this this life I'm not saying

[53:36] it's without work but this life of

[53:38] overcoming the lower desires means that

[53:41] we free ourselves from them. It is a

[53:44] path of freedom.

[53:47] Each desire that we conquer frees us

[53:50] from it.

[53:52] We go up and up and up in the scale of

[53:54] desire until we are perfectly free. That

[53:57] perfect freedom is what we all want. It

[54:01] is bliss. It is love.

[54:04] And as I said in the beginning, when we

[54:07] have that, we want nothing else. What is

[54:10] that love? It is a love that fills us so

[54:13] full

[54:15] that we wonder how we can function in

[54:17] this world.

[54:19] Not only do we not care about

[54:21] functioning in this world, we think we

[54:23] can't because this love is so satisfying

[54:25] and so fulfilling and so elevating.

[54:28] And if you don't take my word for it, I

[54:31] found a good quote from Swami Trigonand.

[54:33] He was one of Shriramak Krishna's

[54:35] disciples

[54:37] who uh came to this country and he spoke

[54:40] in San Francisco for many years. He

[54:43] built the temple there. Uh some of you

[54:45] have seen the old temple in San

[54:46] Francisco. Amazingly, it's the only

[54:48] structure that survived the 1906

[54:50] earthquake.

[54:52] Uh, and I think he said when he built

[54:54] it, I think he said, "If if God has put

[54:57] this together, it will stand. And if I

[54:59] have put this together, it will fall."

[55:00] And within a couple of years, I think

[55:02] after that, the earthquake struck and

[55:04] flattened everything in the city except

[55:06] the temple.

[55:09] So, that's pretty amazing. Anyway, um,

[55:12] he was lecturing. He's in a foreign

[55:14] country. He wants to know how he's

[55:15] doing. He asks one of his disciples for

[55:17] some constructive criticism

[55:20] [snorts] and uh the disciple says well

[55:22] Swami you know sometimes

[55:26] when you're up at the podium talking

[55:28] your voice kind of modulates a little

[55:30] bit it quivers and uh it's it's kind of

[55:33] hard to figure out what you're saying

[55:35] and uh so his response

[55:39] he says he's aware of the problem and he

[55:42] says I have tried my utmost to control

[55:47] But as I go on to the platform,

[55:50] my divine mother appears to me and fills

[55:54] me full of such feelings of love that I

[55:58] find it difficult to speak.

[56:02] So that is what St. Teresa of Avila is

[56:06] referring to.

[56:08] A love that fills us so full that we

[56:11] can't get the words out.

[56:14] Just try just to try and imagine that

[56:18] you are so full of love you can't catch

[56:20] your breath.

[56:22] That's the real ecstasy.

[56:25] And we come down from that state. And as

[56:28] St. Teresa said in the beginning,

[56:31] we are adorned with a courage that

[56:36] protects us from everything,

[56:40] from want of any kind. We laugh at the

[56:43] desire for money.

[56:45] All these things are just looked at as

[56:47] and we feel sorry for the people who

[56:49] think that name and fame or whatever

[56:50] else in this world are worth pursuing.

[56:56] >> [clears throat]

[56:58] >> And so we wonder perhaps

[57:01] why these crazy aesthetics sleep on beds

[57:03] of nails or or wander the earth without

[57:07] roofs

[57:10] or or jobs or knowing where their next

[57:13] meal is going to come from. We wonder

[57:15] why they do that. It's because they want

[57:18] nothing else.

[57:21] They want nothing that this world has to

[57:23] offer.

[57:25] They only want this highest bliss. No

[57:28] other joy are they interested in.

[57:32] As Sri Krishna says in the Gita, the

[57:35] mind is firm

[57:37] and the heart is so full that it hardly

[57:39] holds its love.

[57:43] That's what we want to want. That's what

[57:46] we want to pray to the goddess of

[57:48] fortune for. May we all have it on this

[57:51] holy Lakshmi puja day. May the good Lord

[57:55] bless you and keep you. May he make his

[57:57] face to shine upon you and be gracious

[57:58] unto you.

[58:01] May he lift his countenance upon you and

[58:03] give you peace.

[58:08] [snorts] May good be tied to all.

[58:13] May happiness come to all.

[58:20] May all see the face of truth.

[58:25] and be fortified with the armor of love,

[58:31] goodwill,

[58:35] joy,

[58:39] and understanding.

[58:43] Oh, peace, peace,

[58:47] peace,

[58:49] peace be unto us.

[58:55] Peace be unto all.

[59:00] Har

[59:03] to

[59:17] Awesome.

[1:00:08] Oh my god.

[1:00:30] Father

[1:01:03] is blessing.

[1:02:23] Okay. So

[1:02:26] uh oh we got a treat next Sunday you're

[1:02:29] going to like this the swami from Rhode

[1:02:31] Island he's great he's really fantastic

[1:02:34] you should come and see um Swami

[1:02:36] Yogatmanandanda

[1:02:37] uh he's going to talk about Ramakrishna

[1:02:39] in the hymn of by Vivikananda

[1:02:43] it doesn't really matter what he's going

[1:02:44] to talk about you should come and see

[1:02:45] him uh he's he's worth seeing uh anyway

[1:02:50] so of course Kali puja is coming up Um I

[1:02:53] don't know when that's this is the end

[1:02:55] of October.

[1:02:56] >> The following Sunday.

[1:02:57] >> Following Sunday. Thank you.

[1:02:59] >> November.

[1:03:00] >> Okay.

[1:03:02] Um you want to take over here? Go ahead.

[1:03:05] >> Only then we have a unscheduled karma

[1:03:07] yoga day next Saturday. We need to get

[1:03:11] our kitchen and grounds and things ready

[1:03:14] for Kali Puja. So we invite you to join

[1:03:16] us for an unscheduled according to this

[1:03:18] schedule yoga day. next this coming

[1:03:23] Saturday at 9:15 and stay for lunch.

[1:03:27] >> Stay for lunch. That means next time or

[1:03:29] today?

[1:03:31] >> Then then after,

[1:03:33] >> right? Okay. So today, um I'm going to

[1:03:36] go into the green room so we can all

[1:03:38] chat in there. Um and there's coffee and

[1:03:41] donuts out there. So feel free. So thank

[1:03:45] you all for coming. See you next time.

[1:03:49] [clears throat]

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In this talk, Swami Arupeshananda describes Lakshmi as the goddess of fortune who is celebrated in many forms across India. Her attributes shift by region: an agricultural benefactor in some places, the giver of money in others, the giver of education or domestic bliss elsewhere.
Swami Arupeshananda argues that the word mythology does not mean false or made up. He says visionary experiences of deities are more real than ordinary perception, which is mediated through the mind and senses, because direct perception has the mind out of the way.
The talk notes that the Mahavakyas of the Vedas assert non-duality, including the line 'There is no multiplicity whatsoever.' The speaker admits this seems to contradict everyday experience, and says the tradition offers stories and rituals as a bridge to these high teachings.
In the Chandi, as Swami Arupeshananda tells it, a demon named Mahishasura drives the gods out of heaven. Light from the gods' bodies gathers into a giant goddess with a thousand arms, who defeats the demons, and the speaker uses this image to illustrate direct devotional vision.
The speaker notes that her birthday falls on the day of the talk for much of eastern India, including Bengal, while northern places like Delhi observe Lakshmi during Diwali several days later. Different communities emphasize the aspects of the goddess they need most.
Swami Arupeshananda says that the common schoolroom description of Hinduism as polytheism misunderstands what the gods and goddesses represent. He frames them as manifestations and vehicles for high truths rather than simply a list of competing deities.
The talk treats fortune as whatever people want, from food and money to education and peace of mind. The speaker suggests that the goddess is the one to ask for it, and that the harder task is becoming the kind of person who can enjoy it through self-control.

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