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[0:00] A lot of indigenous traditions talk
[0:03] about a very strange day,
[0:06] actually three days, in the history of
[0:08] our planet. I wrote about this in 1986,
[0:10] got a lot of flak for it. They talk
[0:12] about the day that the sun used to rise
[0:15] in the west and set in the east. Number
[0:18] one, climate change is not human-caused.
[0:21] Number [music] two, humans are
[0:22] contributing to it. Number three, uh we
[0:26] are not the warmest that it's ever been.
[0:28] The thinking is done from research and
[0:31] studies back in the 1960s.
[0:34] But that people [music] are reluctant
[0:37] for that kind of change. So, the only
[0:39] way to get people to adapt that change
[0:41] is to frighten them. The What does that
[0:43] mean? It means a new economic system. It
[0:45] means a new financial system. It means
[0:47] new industrial system.
[0:49] It means a new social order. It means
[0:52] new governmental systems. It means new
[0:54] relationships between new nations that
[0:58] are are forming. There's a goal
[1:00] that they have to accomplish this by the
[1:02] year 2030.
[1:04] Hello, friends. Gregg Braden here.
[1:06] Welcome to this edition of our questions
[1:10] and answers. I'm going to give this one
[1:11] a name.
[1:12] Today, I'm going to call it the
[1:13] geological segment because we have two
[1:15] questions. They both uh pertain to the
[1:18] geology of our past and what it means in
[1:21] our lives today and what it means in
[1:23] terms of the events happening in in the
[1:25] world uh now and in our near future. And
[1:29] uh I'm excited to talk about that. So,
[1:30] I'm going to get to it right now. First
[1:32] question.
[1:34] Uh there's a little context here. She
[1:36] says, "I stumbled on a pole flipping
[1:39] video through the YouTube channel." So,
[1:41] she's referring to the magnetic poles of
[1:44] the earth flipping, reversing, uh as
[1:47] they do periodically.
[1:49] She says, uh "It was through a YouTube
[1:51] channel. They have a compelling series
[1:52] on why Earth is about to flip again in
[1:54] the next 20 years. I'd like to get your
[1:56] take on their dire findings.
[1:59] Um
[2:01] and she's asking if I know the
[2:02] organization. I don't know the
[2:03] organization that is publishing that
[2:05] information.
[2:07] So, let me uh I'm going to address this
[2:08] in a couple of different ways. First,
[2:11] some of you may not have seen previous
[2:13] videos and I don't want to rehash the
[2:16] previous videos, but so I'll summarize
[2:18] here geology 101,
[2:21] the magnetic field of the earth. I know
[2:23] that many of you have heard about it.
[2:25] You speak about I see people talking
[2:26] about it. And I can tell from what
[2:28] they're saying often they don't
[2:30] understand what the magnetic field is.
[2:32] So, let's start with the very beginning.
[2:34] The magnetic field of our planet
[2:35] originates from within the planet. It's
[2:37] not from something
[2:39] outside of us.
[2:41] You may have done an experiment when you
[2:43] were in the school that would help to
[2:45] understand this and I'll I'll just run
[2:46] through this quickly. If you take uh an
[2:48] iron bar
[2:50] or an iron nail and you wrap copper wire
[2:53] around that bar or that nail and so
[2:56] you're wrapping the copper wire and then
[2:58] you've got two loose ends of the wire,
[3:00] one from the beginning one from the end.
[3:02] If you take those loose ends and you
[3:04] attach them to a power source, can be as
[3:06] simple as a little AA battery.
[3:09] One wire goes to the positive, one wire
[3:11] goes to the negative and what happens as
[3:14] the electricity is flowing around the
[3:16] coil
[3:18] in the copper winding, it is creating a
[3:21] magnetic field through the way that
[3:23] those electrons are moving through the
[3:25] wire and interacting with the the
[3:27] properties of the iron.
[3:30] If that makes sense, then you've got the
[3:32] principle for what's happening on earth
[3:34] on a big level.
[3:35] Earth is not a solid planet. When you do
[3:37] a cross section,
[3:39] you see the outer layer that we live on,
[3:41] the crust. It's a relatively thin layer.
[3:43] This is
[3:44] This is the the oceans and the mountains
[3:46] and the the fields and the planes. That
[3:49] is all part of the earth's crust. Below
[3:51] the relatively thin crust is a very
[3:53] thick part called the mantle
[3:55] of the earth.
[3:56] Uh and from I'm just doing this from
[3:58] memory, I believe it may be as much as
[4:00] 1,800 mi deep. I could be wrong on that.
[4:03] I I didn't know I was going to say that,
[4:04] so I didn't write it down. I think it's
[4:05] around 1,800 mi thick.
[4:08] And then there is the core of the earth,
[4:11] and the core is made in two layers.
[4:13] The inner layer is a solid uh core. It
[4:17] is believed to be iron, primarily iron,
[4:19] and the outer core is iron and nickel,
[4:22] and it is a molten
[4:24] uh iron. All right, so you've got solid
[4:27] iron in the middle and molten iron.
[4:29] Well, the solid iron in the middle would
[4:30] be the equivalent of the iron nail
[4:33] or the iron bar.
[4:35] The molten iron
[4:38] uh uh
[4:39] is is in motion.
[4:41] All right, and that is the equivalent of
[4:44] the electrons moving through that copper
[4:46] winding. Now,
[4:47] another another dynamic is that as our
[4:50] planet rotates, all those layers, they
[4:53] do not rotate at the same rate. Isn't
[4:56] that interesting?
[4:57] We have uh the inner and the outer core
[5:00] rotating The inner core is rotating at
[5:02] one rate, the outer core at another
[5:04] rate, then the mantle and the crust at
[5:05] another rate, slipping past one another.
[5:11] And it is the composition of the iron
[5:15] core and the molten iron and that
[5:18] rotation that's the equivalent of as the
[5:21] the outer core is moving around that
[5:23] inner core,
[5:25] the inner core is generating a lot of
[5:26] heat. Uh some of it is through um uh
[5:30] nuclear processes.
[5:32] Uh some of it is through uh because of
[5:34] of tremendous pressures. That heat is
[5:37] coming out of the the inner core into
[5:40] the molten core,
[5:42] and that heat and the motion of the
[5:45] earth is the equivalent there it's
[5:46] creating uh electrons. Electrons are
[5:49] moving and they're moving around that
[5:50] core the way that electrons
[5:53] in the copper wire were moving around
[5:55] the iron bar. That's our magnetic field.
[5:58] All right. So, I hope that helps to to
[5:59] know where the magnetic field is coming
[6:01] from. Now, two things happening. One,
[6:03] the magnetic field is is dynamic.
[6:07] It is not static.
[6:09] So, in two different ways.
[6:11] First of all, anytime you have a magnet,
[6:13] you're going to have a north and south
[6:14] pole. And we we do. We have a magnetic
[6:16] north and south. It's It's moving. It's
[6:19] always moving. It migrates.
[6:21] So, the magnetic north of our planet is
[6:24] not always where the North Pole or the
[6:27] South Pole of our planet is not always
[6:28] where the physical the geophysical South
[6:30] Pole is going to be. It's not
[6:33] right now. So, right now the North Pole
[6:35] is migrating towards Siberia in northern
[6:39] in northern Russia.
[6:40] And there is it's called polar
[6:43] wandering, polar migration. So, it's a
[6:46] phenomenon that we've known about
[6:49] began to measure I think back in 1950s
[6:51] during something called the IGY,
[6:53] International Geophysical Year.
[6:56] And it is a phenomenon that is so
[6:59] important that magnetic maps are updated
[7:02] about every 30 days. Now, for pilots,
[7:05] for example, pilots
[7:07] in aircraft, they are using these
[7:09] magnetic fields for navigation. If
[7:11] if you're on a runway and you see those
[7:14] funny letters sometimes marking the
[7:15] runways,
[7:17] often there are magnetic references that
[7:20] have to be updated and changed.
[7:22] And if you're pilot, you know this.
[7:25] So,
[7:26] I'm just trying to think the first
[7:28] airport or the first major airport that
[7:30] went through and revamped, I think it
[7:31] was in the 1990s. They started
[7:34] re-releasing the the magnetic maps every
[7:37] 30 days.
[7:38] It was in in the north central part of
[7:41] the United States. It may have been
[7:42] Minnesota, but like I could be wrong on
[7:44] that. Uh but it was it was somewhere in
[7:47] the north central of the United States,
[7:48] but this is something commonly done. All
[7:50] right, that is the poles themselves.
[7:52] Now,
[7:54] that's one of the dynamics. The other
[7:56] dynamic is that those poles, every once
[7:59] in a while will reverse. The north
[8:01] becomes south, the south becomes north.
[8:04] There's a lot of mystery around this
[8:06] phenomenon, and the reason is because
[8:08] this never happened since humans have
[8:10] lived on the earth. We emerged about
[8:12] 200,000 years ago is what scientists
[8:15] tell us, and they're pretty much in
[8:16] agreement on on that date.
[8:19] Anatomically modern humans emerged.
[8:22] It's not to say that there couldn't have
[8:23] been other other intelligent life before
[8:25] that, but anatomically modern humans,
[8:27] us, we showed up about 200,000 years
[8:30] before present.
[8:33] Uh and the last time that the magnetic
[8:36] poles of the earth
[8:38] flipped was just under 800,000 years
[8:41] ago, about 780,000
[8:43] years BP, before present. So, we've
[8:46] never seen it in our lifetime.
[8:49] We can see evidence of it in the
[8:51] geologic record. And it it comes about
[8:54] in in a number of different ways.
[8:55] Sometimes the magnetic orientation of
[8:57] the planet is preserved in minerals. Um
[9:01] it can be preserved in certain clays,
[9:04] and this is how when you go back in
[9:05] human history, you can look at the
[9:07] magnetic particles in ancient pottery,
[9:09] for example, and see where those
[9:12] particles, how they're aligned
[9:14] uh compared to where the north pole is
[9:16] now, and you can see where the south
[9:18] pole is and you can see how much
[9:19] the poles have have changed in in that
[9:21] time.
[9:22] So, we have never seen it, so we have to
[9:26] infer
[9:27] what uh what it is that that's
[9:28] happening. Now, what scientists do know
[9:31] is that before those poles can drop, the
[9:35] the
[9:36] composite measurement has to decline
[9:41] to a certain threshold. So, it can't go
[9:44] from a high and then just boom, just
[9:47] reverse. It's got to become weaker and
[9:49] weaker and weaker, and then it reaches a
[9:51] threshold of weakness and it loses its
[9:53] support and then it's just kind of like
[9:55] free falls.
[9:57] So,
[9:58] we know right now the composite
[10:01] measurement for Earth it it's uh
[10:05] And I'm hesitating because I I don't
[10:07] want to get too much in the weeds. What
[10:08] I'll say is there are seven different
[10:09] parameters that are used to determine
[10:12] the magnetic field strength uh of the
[10:15] Earth. And when you put all those
[10:17] together,
[10:18] right now the average strength it's
[10:20] between 25
[10:22] uh thousand and 65,000 what are called
[10:25] nano Tesla is um
[10:28] a unit that's used to measure the
[10:30] magnetic
[10:31] field of the Earth. They also use gauss.
[10:34] Uh but the the nano Tesla, I believe is
[10:37] uh 25,000 to 65,000.
[10:41] So, it's somewhere uh those are the
[10:42] extremes and we've got an average in
[10:44] there of what would be a 40 I guess yeah
[10:45] 45,000.
[10:50] What we know is that that number,
[10:53] if we take that average,
[10:55] uh it is
[10:57] uh
[10:59] when we look at the the previous high
[11:02] for the magnetic field,
[11:04] then what the scientists tell us is that
[11:07] that high has to fall
[11:09] down to 10% of the previous high and
[11:13] right now we are only at 58% from that
[11:15] previous high.
[11:17] So, I hope that makes sense. See,
[11:19] if you go to the the previous high of of
[11:21] the the Earth's magnetic field, it has
[11:24] to decline and that threshold is about
[11:25] 10%.
[11:27] And we're nowhere near that 10%. We're
[11:29] at 58% from that that previous high.
[11:33] So,
[11:34] it is true that the magnetic fields of
[11:37] the earth are weakening and we can see
[11:39] beginning 2,000 years ago that the
[11:42] fields began to weaken and they've
[11:43] continued ever since. We're We're We're
[11:46] at the weakest point now that we've been
[11:48] uh since the last 2,000 years.
[11:51] In the last 200 years, I think it's uh
[11:53] the the average is about maybe nine nine
[11:56] percent per century, something like that
[11:58] that that the magnetic fields are are
[12:00] declining. Again, it's uh there are
[12:02] different ways of measuring this.
[12:04] So, the point that I'm sharing is that
[12:06] we are nowhere near that 10% threshold
[12:10] that we need to reach of weakness before
[12:13] that reversal occurs.
[12:15] Uh and if it took 200 years if it's
[12:18] taken 2,000 years to get to the point we
[12:20] are now, we're only 58% down,
[12:23] it's not going to happen today,
[12:24] tomorrow. It's not going to happen this
[12:27] year, next year.
[12:28] Uh as a geologist, it will happen, I can
[12:31] tell you that. And in and when it
[12:34] happens, I think it's significant. But
[12:36] here's why I'm saying this to you.
[12:38] We live in a world of chaos. Well, you
[12:40] know that and I know that and there are
[12:42] so many things on our radar
[12:45] to be concerned about.
[12:49] And some of them are consciously nagging
[12:52] at us all the time. You know, we've got
[12:54] to be prepared for supply chain
[12:56] shortages or or breakdowns or fuel
[12:58] shortages,
[13:00] bank closures, you know, social unrest.
[13:04] We're looking at war now in in Europe
[13:06] the first time we've seen in in a very
[13:08] long time.
[13:09] So, what I want to say to you is a pole
[13:12] reversal possible? Absolutely. Will it
[13:14] happen at some point? Absolutely. Is it
[13:16] going to happen this week, next week, or
[13:19] in the next 20 years? I personally am
[13:22] not seeing the evidence to support that.
[13:24] I'm not saying that there isn't evidence
[13:25] out there or maybe there is that I'm not
[13:27] seeing. What I will say is that does not
[13:30] fit what the geological record has shown
[13:32] us since we've been studying the
[13:34] magnetic field since the 1950s. Now,
[13:37] barring a black swan event,
[13:40] are there things that could accelerate
[13:43] that? Sure, there are. If we had like a
[13:45] massive solar flare from the sun or
[13:47] we had mushroom clouds from nuclear
[13:50] weapons simultaneously, you know, in
[13:52] different parts of the Earth, you know,
[13:54] things like that, meteor giant meteor
[13:56] impact on the planet, it would ring this
[13:59] planet, it would ring that iron core
[14:00] like a bell.
[14:02] And that would be enough, scientists
[14:04] believe, to to trigger that pole
[14:06] reversal. Those are called black swan
[14:08] events. We don't know when they're going
[14:09] to happen. We don't know if they're
[14:10] going to happen. We can't really prepare
[14:12] for them.
[14:13] So, barring a black swan event, I
[14:15] personally don't see the evidence to
[14:17] support a magnetic field reversal in the
[14:19] next 20 years. So, I don't want you to
[14:22] worry about that. Of all the things to
[14:24] be concerned about and prepare for,
[14:26] I don't want you to worry about it. How
[14:28] would you prepare for that anyway? Well,
[14:30] let me talk about that a little bit.
[14:32] Because the world you and I live in
[14:34] right now,
[14:35] the technology that we depend on is
[14:38] based upon an assumption with the
[14:40] magnetic field of the Earth, and that
[14:42] assumption is that it's always there and
[14:44] it's always oriented the way it is now.
[14:47] Your computer, my computer, your cell
[14:48] phone, my cell phone,
[14:50] the electricity that powers our planet,
[14:52] the electricity that powers our
[14:53] automobiles, all of that is the the
[14:56] data, the memory, the flash drives, hard
[14:58] drives, everything assumes
[15:01] that the magnetic fields of the Earth
[15:03] are a constant in terms of where they're
[15:06] oriented and that they exist, so much so
[15:10] that we never talk about it. So much so
[15:13] that all the technology, with billions,
[15:15] trillions of dollars
[15:17] poured into developing technology with
[15:20] the thinking that the magnetic field is
[15:22] a given. It's It's always there.
[15:24] Well, when a magnetic field reverses,
[15:27] we've never seen it here personally, but
[15:30] we have seen it on other planets, and we
[15:31] see it in the sun. And it can happen in
[15:33] a couple of different ways.
[15:37] One way
[15:38] uh that we see in other planets, and we
[15:39] see this in the sun.
[15:41] By the way, the sun does not have a
[15:43] single north and south pole. The sun has
[15:44] many magnetic fields. And you see them
[15:48] as sunspots. That When you see those
[15:49] dark spots, each of those is a magnetic
[15:51] vortex.
[15:53] And what happens on the sun is those
[15:55] vortices begin to break down, and they
[15:56] go into chaos. And we see this in
[15:59] another planet as well.
[16:01] It doesn't necessarily mean that the
[16:02] field goes completely to zero before it
[16:05] reverses. It may. But it doesn't
[16:07] necessarily have to. It can go into
[16:09] chaos with still a magnetic field. But
[16:12] what happens is you Instead of one north
[16:14] and south pole, you end up with many
[16:17] fractured
[16:19] magnetic vortices, many little north and
[16:21] south poles. And then as they all become
[16:24] oriented into the the new position, uh
[16:27] then we normalize into a new
[16:30] a new north and south. What used to be
[16:32] north is now south, and and vice versa.
[16:35] So, that is one way that this could
[16:37] happen.
[16:39] A lot of indigenous traditions talk
[16:41] about a very strange day,
[16:44] actually 3 days, in the history of our
[16:47] planet. I wrote about this in 1986, got
[16:49] a lot of flak for it. It was shared uh
[16:52] through some of the indigenous uh
[16:54] traditions that that I had studied and
[16:55] some of the elders that that I had
[16:56] spoken with.
[16:58] And they talk about the day, uh and it's
[17:01] referred to in biblical traditions as
[17:03] well as as a long day.
[17:05] When uh
[17:07] the indigenous traditions talk about a
[17:08] day where the sun
[17:11] The sun today rises in the east and sets
[17:13] in the west. They talk about the day
[17:15] that the sun used to rise in the west,
[17:18] and set in the east.
[17:20] And then there was a long day, more than
[17:22] 20 hours,
[17:24] where that didn't happen, and when it
[17:26] began to happen again, it was reversed.
[17:28] The sun was setting rising in the east
[17:31] and setting in the west.
[17:33] The feeling is that could only happen
[17:36] uh if the rotation of the earth itself,
[17:40] or the rotation of those inner portions
[17:43] of the earth were to
[17:44] uh to slow and stop and then begin
[17:48] again. But we've never seen it, and I'm
[17:50] not saying that's what's happening. I am
[17:52] just sharing that you will hear about
[17:54] this in indigenous traditions, that the
[17:56] long day, when the sun either the sun
[17:59] remains in the sky
[18:01] for an abnormally long period of time,
[18:03] or if you're in another part of the
[18:04] earth where it's dark for an abnormally
[18:06] long period time, usually 72 hours is
[18:08] what they talk about.
[18:10] That 72 hours comes up a lot, uh 3 days,
[18:13] and um
[18:15] you know, in many of the ancient
[18:16] traditions, it is uh 3 days of renewal.
[18:20] Uh Christian traditions, they talk about
[18:22] 3 days for resurrection.
[18:24] And that was what was demonstrated. So
[18:27] there's a lot of there's a mystical
[18:28] component to this. So that's beyond what
[18:30] I can do while here. I just want to
[18:31] acknowledge that they do exist. And
[18:34] again, I'm going to go back to
[18:36] we've never lived through a pole
[18:38] reversal. It appears that it is not
[18:40] life-threatening.
[18:42] However, it could be emotionally and
[18:44] psychologically uh a difficult day if
[18:47] you don't know what's happening, if
[18:48] you're not, you know, if if you had no
[18:50] idea what was going on.
[18:52] So I'm saying this because you see this
[18:54] in some of those videos that are out
[18:55] there and some of the papers that are
[18:56] written.
[18:57] All to say, and I'm not discounting it,
[18:59] I'm just saying of all the things that
[19:01] are on our plate right now, I think we
[19:03] can put this off the plate. All the
[19:06] things on the list of things
[19:08] uh to be concerned about, we can put at
[19:10] the bottom and then cross it out for
[19:11] right now. Uh because I think we've got
[19:14] bigger bigger problems to solve right
[19:16] now. But I I hope this under helps you
[19:18] to understand a little bit about
[19:20] magnetic fields of the earth, pole
[19:22] reversals,
[19:23] uh what they mean to us.
[19:25] Michelle asked a second question in the
[19:27] same question. So, Michelle, I'm going
[19:28] to go ahead and answer to the best of my
[19:30] ability your second question as well.
[19:32] It's about climate change.
[19:34] She's asking, "Why do they?" And the
[19:37] "they" is in little rabbit quotes.
[19:40] Whoever they are, the powers that be,
[19:43] we've talked about this in some of the
[19:44] other Q&As.
[19:46] Uh why do they continue to double down
[19:49] on the climate catastrophe angle?"
[19:54] Um
[19:56] well, there's so many ways to answer
[19:58] this question. So, first of all, who are
[19:59] they?
[20:00] The powers that be,
[20:02] uh there are local powers that be, there
[20:04] are regional powers that be,
[20:07] there are global powers that be.
[20:09] So, I believe that the the most honest
[20:12] way to answer this question, this
[20:14] question, "Why are they doubling down on
[20:16] the climate catastrophe angle?"
[20:19] is coming within the context of what you
[20:21] and I are living through right now.
[20:23] Uh it is an [clears throat] attempt for
[20:24] what is called the great reset. And I
[20:27] know many of you have heard that. You've
[20:28] heard me speak about it. Uh
[20:31] the coin was termed by the World
[20:32] Economic Forum. They produced a book.
[20:35] It's no secret that they would like to
[20:37] remake the world.
[20:39] And in that remaking that they are
[20:42] seeing
[20:44] the uh the opportunity or they're seeing
[20:47] the pandemic as an opportunity
[20:50] to remake the world. And what does that
[20:51] mean? It means a new economic system. It
[20:53] means a new financial system. It means
[20:55] new industrial system.
[20:57] It means a new social order. It means
[21:00] new governmental systems. It means new
[21:03] relationships between new nations
[21:06] that are are forming. And they talk
[21:08] about this very very clearly.
[21:10] There is a goal that they have to
[21:13] accomplish this by the year 2030.
[21:16] In the year 2019,
[21:18] the World Economic Forum WEF WEF signed
[21:23] an agreement with the United Nations
[21:26] for the UN to help to implement the
[21:30] vision of the World Economic Forum. And
[21:33] you're seeing much of this play out
[21:34] through what is called the Sustainable
[21:36] Development Goals, UN SDG 2030, United
[21:39] Nations Sustainable Development Goals
[21:41] for the year 2030. Uh and I know there's
[21:44] a lot of information that is out there
[21:47] about those goals.
[21:49] And you know, this is it's it's a
[21:50] delicate conversation and it's a hard
[21:52] conversation. I mean, I think it's
[21:54] important to have an honest
[21:55] conversation.
[21:57] I have worked uh
[21:59] in some capacity with organizations that
[22:01] are
[22:02] in one way or another supporting those
[22:04] goals. Uh I'm no longer with those
[22:08] organizations. And one of the reasons is
[22:10] when you look at the goals themselves,
[22:11] they are truly beautiful goals. Who
[22:13] wouldn't want food security? Who
[22:16] who wouldn't want to eradicate disease
[22:18] on the planet? Who wouldn't want uh you
[22:21] know, equality in terms economic
[22:23] equality and things like that. Beautiful
[22:25] goals.
[22:26] And then you read the fine print of how
[22:30] what the plan is to accomplish those
[22:32] goals.
[22:33] And in my opinion
[22:36] to get to those goals
[22:38] uh the way that's being proposed
[22:41] I think there are other ways to achieve
[22:44] those goals with much less suffering in
[22:46] the world. I'm going to say it that way.
[22:50] And I've said that publicly before. This
[22:53] is this is nothing new.
[22:55] So, the question why are they doubling
[22:57] down? They're doubling down on the
[22:59] climate narrative uh to to push and
[23:03] further
[23:05] the thinking that we need to
[23:08] reset the world to achieve those goals.
[23:12] Climate is it's a tricky one because it
[23:14] has been politicized. And as a
[23:16] geologist, I can tell you that. I've
[23:18] I've got videos out there. I've got
[23:19] videos on this channel
[23:21] uh, talking about climate change. And I
[23:23] know some of you haven't seen those
[23:24] videos.
[23:26] So, let me just say this. Climate change
[23:28] is a fact. We know that. I've been I
[23:30] began discovering it as a geologist in
[23:33] the industry in the 1970s.
[23:36] Uh,
[23:37] we've been talking about I've been
[23:38] talking about publicly since '86 that we
[23:40] need to prepare for climate change
[23:44] because climate change is part of a
[23:46] natural dynamic of our planet. And we
[23:49] can see in the geologic record, you can
[23:51] see in the ocean sediment records, you
[23:53] can see in the ice cores of Greenland
[23:55] and Antarctica.
[23:57] Uh, if there were no humans on Earth,
[23:59] climate change is still happening. We
[24:01] can go back the the green or the uh,
[24:03] Antarctic ice cores go back 420,000
[24:06] years before BP, before present.
[24:08] There were no humans as we know it
[24:10] living during that time, yet we were
[24:12] going through the warming and the
[24:13] cooling cycles.
[24:15] Have we contributed to climate change? I
[24:17] have to say absolutely we have. And I
[24:19] have to say that because we are
[24:21] contributing CO2 into the atmosphere. Is
[24:25] this the warmest our planet has ever
[24:27] been? Absolutely not. Is this the most
[24:29] CO2 that's ever been in the atmosphere?
[24:31] Absolutely not. Does the planet die when
[24:34] the CO2 levels are high? Absolutely not.
[24:37] And this is just This isn't political.
[24:40] I'm just sharing sharing information.
[24:41] So, let me Let me just give you a couple
[24:43] of examples here.
[24:45] Geologic time. There was So, first of
[24:47] all, carbon dioxide is being demonized
[24:50] in our world today in a very sad and a
[24:52] little bit of a frightening way. Young
[24:54] people are being taught to hate it, to
[24:56] fear it. The truth is we cannot live
[24:58] without it. When the carbon dioxide
[25:01] levels of our planet drop below 180
[25:04] parts per million, ppm, our planet's in
[25:07] trouble. Because
[25:10] the plants that need car- carbon dioxide
[25:13] is to a plant like oxygen is to you and
[25:15] to me.
[25:16] If there's not enough CO2, those plants
[25:18] can't live. And when the plants in the
[25:19] forest begin to die off,
[25:21] we are in trouble because you know that
[25:23] the forests are called the lungs of the
[25:25] planet. Um
[25:27] making [clears throat] all of the the
[25:29] ecological
[25:31] uh
[25:31] keeping all of the ecological balances
[25:33] in place that we have heard about so
[25:35] much that need to be there. So, you
[25:37] don't want the climate of the Earth, you
[25:40] don't want the CO2 levels to drop below
[25:43] 180 parts per million.
[25:45] And the last time we saw those levels
[25:48] was when the It was about uh let's see,
[25:51] 2.6 million years before present.
[25:54] Uh the Earth was much cooler at that
[25:56] time
[25:58] because there was not CO2 to to create
[26:00] the warmth. Uh plants uh died. It was uh
[26:03] it was a very very interesting time in
[26:05] in the history of our world.
[26:09] Now,
[26:11] we're right now close to 400. I think
[26:13] we're over 400 parts per million. Uh we
[26:15] are, according to the
[26:17] the readings taken from the the Hawaiian
[26:19] station. We're over 400 parts per
[26:21] million. Is that the highest that we've
[26:23] ever been? I'm I'm not saying we want to
[26:25] go back to this, but I just want you to
[26:27] know there've been times
[26:28] where we have in the Cretaceous period.
[26:31] Cretaceous is a long period in the
[26:33] history.
[26:34] As a geologist, I enjoyed it because
[26:36] there was so much life and so many
[26:37] fossils. And that changed over this
[26:40] period of time. It ranges from 66 to 145
[26:43] million years before present.
[26:46] During the Cretaceous, the CO2 levels
[26:48] reached 4,000 parts per million. And
[26:51] Earth was probably the greenest, one of
[26:53] the greenest times that we've ever seen.
[26:56] Because life flourishes [snorts] in the
[26:58] presence of that high CO2,
[27:00] temperatures were much warmer.
[27:02] Temperatures right during that time, I
[27:04] just want to give you a really good 5 to
[27:07] 10° C above what they are right now.
[27:09] We're not the warmest that's ever been.
[27:11] I'm not saying we want to go there. But
[27:13] what I want to say to you is that it's
[27:15] not like everything dies.
[27:18] It's not like the planet ends when
[27:20] there's higher levels of of CO2. Most of
[27:24] the the ice melted, the temperatures
[27:26] were warmer, most of the ice melted
[27:27] during the Cretaceous.
[27:29] The ice is not on the poles, you know
[27:30] where it is. That means sea levels are
[27:32] really high.
[27:34] And they obliterated much of what we now
[27:38] know as
[27:40] as seashores.
[27:41] Today on on the coast, but they
[27:43] obliterated much of the coasts of what
[27:45] we see as the land masses today. I'm
[27:47] going to say this another way. It's
[27:49] relatively rare to have some of the land
[27:52] mass exposed
[27:54] in history, the history of Earth that we
[27:56] have exposed today.
[27:58] Uh it's relatively rare to have parts of
[28:00] Southern California, parts of Florida,
[28:02] the Gulf
[28:03] uh
[28:04] parts of the Gulf states have typically
[28:06] been underwater and that's why they have
[28:08] the kind of geology they have. That's
[28:10] why uh they are fer- fertile uh in terms
[28:14] of of uh you know, being able to grow
[28:16] crops and things like that. So during
[28:17] the Cretaceous time, most of the ice had
[28:19] melted, the sea levels were high. Almost
[28:22] all of the flowering species that we
[28:24] know emerged during that time. A lot of
[28:26] new forms of life emerged during that
[28:28] time. Earth did anything but die.
[28:31] The last time we saw
[28:33] 400 parts per million, which is what
[28:35] we're seeing right now of CO2, was
[28:37] during what's called the the Pliocene
[28:39] period and the temperatures were a
[28:41] little warmer. They were about 3° C
[28:44] above the average and I know we're we're
[28:47] trying to keep those temperatures down.
[28:49] Uh so, I just want to be very honest
[28:52] with you because we're being led to
[28:53] believe that we're in this extreme
[28:56] that was created by humans.
[28:59] When the truth is, if humans weren't
[29:01] here, we would still have climate
[29:02] change. And when the climate has changed
[29:04] and the CO2 levels have kicked up, not
[29:07] from industry, but from nature, uh
[29:11] the Earth did not die during those
[29:12] times. I I just want to be very honest
[29:14] with you about that.
[29:18] As a geologist, what I can say to you is
[29:20] the primary driver is Earth's location
[29:22] in space with relation to the Sun. Earth
[29:25] does a dance, a tilt, an angle, and a
[29:26] wobble,
[29:28] uh called the Milankovitch cycles, very
[29:30] well known in the circles that study
[29:32] this.
[29:33] And uh and those cycles are always
[29:36] driving this dynamic. The problem is
[29:39] that humans began to build society and
[29:42] civilization without knowing that,
[29:44] assuming the climate was static. And we
[29:47] built right on the edge, right on the
[29:51] edge of the shorelines, we built in
[29:52] flood plains, assuming that would never
[29:54] change. It is changing, and now, rather
[29:57] than adapting to the change, we're being
[30:00] told that we need to change the planet
[30:05] to fit our lifestyles. That's literally
[30:07] what's happening. And I think it's um
[30:10] the evidence doesn't support that
[30:12] narrative at all. Now, the other side of
[30:14] this,
[30:16] if we we are contributing to CO2, we
[30:18] need to stop. We need to stop burning
[30:19] fossil fuels. We've had the technology,
[30:22] as you've heard me say, for over 60
[30:24] years
[30:25] to produce clean, green, sustainable
[30:28] energy, electricity with zero greenhouse
[30:30] gases,
[30:31] with uh materials that are abundant in
[30:35] the Earth's crust, that are inexpensive,
[30:36] everybody has them, nobody can hoard
[30:38] them, they don't cost a lot to create in
[30:41] a way that cannot melt down like a
[30:43] Fukushima reactor. It cannot be
[30:44] weaponized the way uranium is
[30:47] or plutonium is in the weapons days as a
[30:49] byproduct of uranium.
[30:51] The waste becomes can be recycled into
[30:55] the new fuel. It's not perfect, but it's
[30:58] a stepping stone toward a more perfect
[31:01] form of energy when we finally reach
[31:04] vacuum energy from empty space and we
[31:07] will. The energy I'm talking about is
[31:09] thorium. I did a whole video on this.
[31:11] I'm not going to reiterate that now.
[31:12] Here's the point. If they that Michelle
[31:16] asked about, if they were serious about
[31:18] climate change,
[31:19] I personally believe this is one man's
[31:21] opinion,
[31:22] that they were to have allowed this
[31:25] technology
[31:26] to emerge and become prolific
[31:29] when it was when it was developed back
[31:33] in in the 1960s.
[31:35] We had these
[31:37] thorium reactors up and running 60s
[31:39] through they were shut down in the 80s.
[31:41] There weren't a lot of them, but we had
[31:42] some in the US. India's had some,
[31:44] China's had some, Russia's had some.
[31:45] They're developing now. China's
[31:46] developing new thorium reactors, element
[31:49] number 90. Russia is as well.
[31:52] So, when you read that they are not
[31:54] proven,
[31:55] it's not true because we already built
[31:57] them, we'd already used them. So, if
[31:59] they were serious about cutting back on
[32:01] greenhouse gases, I think we would have
[32:03] eliminated those greenhouse gases. So, I
[32:06] guess I'm answering this in a couple of
[32:07] different ways.
[32:08] Number one, climate change
[32:11] is not human caused. Number two, humans
[32:13] are contributing to it. Number three,
[32:16] we are not the warmest that it's ever
[32:18] been and this is not the the highest
[32:21] level of CO2 in the atmosphere that's
[32:23] ever existed. We can look back in
[32:25] geologic history. I'm doing this because
[32:27] I've got notes on my desk. That's what
[32:28] you're seeing me refer to.
[32:32] If if we want to be honest with
[32:33] ourselves, we can go back and we can see
[32:35] what happened to the oceans, to the ice
[32:39] caps, to the green life and the
[32:42] flourishing of life that emerged when
[32:44] the CO2 levels were higher. And I'm not
[32:46] saying we need to do that now. I just
[32:47] don't want you to be afraid.
[32:49] And this is the whole thing. Why are
[32:51] they doing this now?
[32:53] This is my opinion.
[32:56] If the powers that be
[32:59] would come to the people of the earth
[33:02] and honestly say to us
[33:05] that what we have done in the past
[33:06] served us
[33:08] because we're here now
[33:10] and
[33:12] it is unsustainable and we now have the
[33:14] technology to move into a new era and a
[33:16] new way of living our lives.
[33:19] New ways of generating electricity, new
[33:21] forms of finance and economies. Let's
[33:24] work together and build this. If they
[33:26] would say something like that to us, I
[33:28] think people
[33:30] would probably be more willing to go
[33:32] along with the plan.
[33:34] The thinking is done from research and
[33:37] studies back in the 1960s
[33:40] that that people are reluctant for that
[33:43] kind of change. So, the only way to get
[33:46] people to adapt that change is to
[33:47] frighten them.
[33:49] So, climate is being used to frighten
[33:51] people into a narrative or a narrative
[33:53] supporting it and into a way of thinking
[33:57] that will embrace the alternatives that
[33:59] are are being touted as the saviors, as
[34:02] the savior for
[34:04] for what we're doing. So,
[34:05] it's uh in my opinion, it's unnecessary.
[34:09] I understand the thinking. I just don't
[34:10] think that thinking is necessary. I
[34:12] think the people of the earth are ready
[34:14] for change and and that we could work
[34:16] together and build a new world that
[34:19] minimize the suffering.
[34:21] The changes that are being
[34:23] implemented now, that are being offered,
[34:26] those changes um
[34:28] are causing suffering because they're
[34:29] abrupt, they're disruptive
[34:32] and they're being done from a place of
[34:34] fear rather than for the love of our
[34:36] global family, a love for this planet.
[34:39] And there's a lot of anger and a lot of
[34:41] hurt based on the misunderstandings
[34:43] around the science.
[34:45] It's sad, it's unfortunate, it's it's
[34:47] unnecessary. So, um so I hope this helps
[34:50] to understand a little bit. Michelle, it
[34:51] was a good question why they're doubling
[34:53] down. They've identified the year 2030
[34:56] as the year they would like to
[34:57] accomplish
[34:58] a lot of the great reset. You and I are
[35:01] seeing that play out in the world stage
[35:03] by the rapidity of the change, just the
[35:06] magnitude of the change that is being
[35:09] pushed, the economic systems, the
[35:10] economic change, uh borders are being
[35:14] redrawn, industries are being remade.
[35:19] But I'm just going to go back one one
[35:21] last thing.
[35:23] You know, as a scientist, uh I've
[35:25] studied nature a lot. My primary degree
[35:27] is in geology, but I have a strong
[35:28] background in earth and in marine
[35:30] sciences. I was an ocean science major,
[35:32] a marine geology before I went into
[35:34] terrestrial geology.
[35:36] So, I have a strong background life
[35:37] sciences. And uh I'm an amateur
[35:40] archaeologist as well as anthropologist,
[35:42] spend a lot of time with indigenous
[35:45] people throughout the world. And what I
[35:46] can say to you is this,
[35:48] the most sustainable form of living at
[35:52] any time and especially in times of
[35:54] extremes is localized living. So,
[35:59] localized sources of energy, localized
[36:01] sources of food, localized economies,
[36:03] localized finances, localized education,
[36:06] all of that. Uh and the reason is
[36:09] because centralized living puts a
[36:12] population at risk uh when those
[36:16] centralized support systems break down,
[36:19] everybody suffers. Whereas when it's
[36:21] localized, things might break down here,
[36:23] but over here they're not, and these
[36:25] people then can help these people, and
[36:26] we can work together and and you see
[36:28] this in nature in the animal kingdom.
[36:31] You see it with ants, you see it with
[36:33] birds, you see it
[36:34] um
[36:35] in indigenous traditions, this has
[36:37] always been the model.
[36:39] This is precisely the opposite of the
[36:41] model that is being pushed in the great
[36:43] reset. They are pushing for
[36:44] centralization,
[36:46] discouraging rural living
[36:49] uh
[36:49] to force people into
[36:52] large centralized population centers,
[36:56] uh which in my opinion, especially after
[36:57] pandemic, I think you can see the the
[36:59] the downside of that. But not just the
[37:02] pandemic, just in terms of of how people
[37:04] people live.
[37:06] So, what I am seeing is this great reset
[37:10] intuitively flies directly in the face
[37:13] of what nature shows us is the most
[37:16] sustainable way of of living.
[37:20] The World Economic Forum is they wrote
[37:23] the book. Uh this is where it came from.
[37:25] It's I'm What I'm saying is not a
[37:26] secret. They believe that this is a good
[37:29] change. They believe that it can be done
[37:31] in a relatively short period of time and
[37:32] we'll have a better world for it.
[37:35] The ideas originating from the World
[37:38] Economic Forum,
[37:40] they have had uh really no way to
[37:43] implement those ideas until the year
[37:45] 2019.
[37:47] 2019, they signed the agreement and it
[37:49] was televised. You can see videos of the
[37:51] handshake between the World Economic
[37:54] Forum and United Nations to implement
[37:56] the ideas for the great reset.
[37:59] And you're seeing that play out through
[38:01] the UN implementation of what are called
[38:04] the Sustainable Development Goals
[38:06] for 2030. It's called UN SDG 2030,
[38:08] United Nations Sustainable Development
[38:10] Goals for the year 2030.
[38:13] The goals themselves are beautiful. If
[38:15] you look at those 17 goals, you know,
[38:16] who doesn't want
[38:19] food security? You You doesn't want
[38:21] equality uh in finance? Who doesn't want
[38:24] equality for women? Who doesn't want to
[38:26] eradicate disease among children and you
[38:29] know, all over the world. Who doesn't
[38:30] want those things?
[38:32] But then you read the fine print of how
[38:34] those goals, the the plan to accomplish
[38:37] those goals.
[38:38] And I have to tell you that what that
[38:40] fine print says
[38:42] uh
[38:44] for me
[38:45] is difficult to see
[38:48] uh because it it has the potential to
[38:51] cause a lot of suffering.
[38:53] For a lot of people in the world in the
[38:55] way that the things are being
[38:57] implemented. You've heard the term the
[38:59] devil's in the details.
[39:01] So, if people don't read the fine print,
[39:03] everybody says, "Man, I'm on board with
[39:05] this. Who who wouldn't Who wouldn't want
[39:06] that? Who wouldn't want food security?"
[39:09] But then if you look at how that food
[39:11] security is being accomplished with
[39:13] large corporate farms for example or
[39:15] using a lot of uh
[39:17] uh GMO based seeds and you know, the the
[39:20] pesticides are being used which are
[39:22] needed if you're going to have a huge
[39:25] corporate farm. You That's that's the
[39:27] way those things are run.
[39:31] Uh in my opinion, that is probably not
[39:34] the way to go.
[39:36] And I'm hesitating a little bit. I I had
[39:38] the opportunity
[39:40] uh and have worked with a an a non uh
[39:44] governmental an NGO non-governmental
[39:46] agency
[39:47] who sharing new ideas about the SDG
[39:50] 2030s.
[39:52] And I was excited to do that uh and what
[39:54] I found was that the
[39:57] the thinking
[39:58] is so strong that we need these goals
[40:01] and that we need to support these goals
[40:03] that I couldn't no longer support those
[40:05] in good conscience. So, I'm no longer
[40:07] supporting
[40:08] those goals. I am supporting
[40:10] the things that we're talking about
[40:11] here, localized living.
[40:14] Localized living and all the ways that
[40:16] I've talked about uh the transition of
[40:18] energy, if we're serious about it, it's
[40:20] it's already available to us. You've
[40:22] heard me talk about blockchain
[40:23] technologies and how that can
[40:25] revolutionize
[40:26] personal finance and uh and global
[40:29] economies in a way that's not tied to
[40:33] a government, in a way that's not tied
[40:35] to a nation.
[40:36] I know for some people it sounds
[40:37] frightening and for other people it
[40:39] sounds like uh utopia.
[40:41] And I think there's something in
[40:43] between.
[40:44] So I I I think where it all comes down
[40:46] to for me, it's about being honest.
[40:49] How can we solve the problems of the
[40:51] world if we're not honest about the
[40:53] problems that we face?
[40:55] We cannot solve a climate change problem
[40:58] if we're not honest about what the data
[41:00] is telling us and if we keep
[41:02] cherry-picking the data and if we keep
[41:05] using legacy media to perpetuate
[41:08] frightening narratives without talking
[41:10] about the the big picture and the full
[41:12] picture.
[41:14] Uh so I I know
[41:16] that we can build a beautiful world
[41:19] because we have everything we need to do
[41:21] that. And I know the people of the world
[41:23] are ready for that. They're ready for
[41:24] more than the war, certainly. They're
[41:26] ready for more than the suffering.
[41:29] And we love our planet. We want to
[41:31] preserve our planet. So my prayer, my
[41:34] invitation, I wish those powers that be
[41:37] uh I know they're doing what they think
[41:38] is best
[41:39] in their minds.
[41:41] And if we all work together and and
[41:44] looked at this from a little bit
[41:45] different perspective,
[41:47] uh I think we could accomplish great and
[41:49] beautiful things. I personally believe
[41:52] it's possible to raise the standard of
[41:53] living for every human on the planet
[41:56] using the technologies that are now
[41:58] available and what we now understand
[42:00] rather than elevating those standards of
[42:03] living for relatively few at the expense
[42:05] of many that uh are working uh and
[42:09] suffering to support that.
[42:11] I know that world is possible. And the
[42:13] question is, what world are we going to
[42:14] choose? Michelle, you asked the
[42:16] question,
[42:17] you know, why are they doubling down on
[42:18] this narrative? They're doubling down to
[42:21] support a vision of
[42:24] of what they, a relatively few number of
[42:26] people, believe is possible for the
[42:28] world within the next 9 years.
[42:31] So, where do we go with that?
[42:33] Uh, I think we're watching it play out
[42:36] right before our very eyes every day.
[42:39] Thank you for asking the question. I
[42:41] went a little longer on this.
[42:43] I shared my opinions a little bit more
[42:46] than I did on the facts, especially with
[42:48] this climate change, because I'm very
[42:49] passionate about it. I know you all have
[42:51] feelings about it, too. Some of you
[42:52] won't agree with what I'm saying. Some
[42:54] of you have other information. There are
[42:56] a lot of things I could have said that I
[42:57] didn't, uh,
[42:59] just to respect you
[43:01] and to respect this channel. I want to
[43:02] keep the channel up and running.
[43:04] >> [laughter]
[43:05] >> And you all know how that goes. So,
[43:06] thank you for sharing part of your day
[43:08] with me today. I hope this has helped.
[43:09] Michelle, thank you for your two very
[43:10] thoughtful questions. I look forward to
[43:13] our next Q&A. Thank you so much.