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[0:48] to you all and
[0:51] and welcome also to all of you attending
[0:53] the satsang online. We have lots of uh
[0:56] great questions as always. Let me um
[1:01] start with some of the uh questions that
[1:04] have just come in the past few minutes
[1:06] on the uh live chat. First is question
[1:10] is from George who lives in Greece.
[1:13] Welcome George. Will a vida mukta vida
[1:19] vade mukta is someone who was
[1:22] enlightened while they were living and
[1:24] then body falls
[1:27] and before we get into let let me just
[1:30] anticipate the question by asking you a
[1:32] question. So what happens to the pure
[1:36] consciousness
[1:38] that is the essential nature of that
[1:42] person enlightened
[1:44] uh during life and then at death uh
[1:50] body falls what happens to consciousness
[1:53] at the moment of death? So nothing
[1:56] happens to pure consciousness. Now let's
[1:59] add a twist. Suppose that person wasn't
[2:02] enlightened.
[2:06] If that person wasn't enlightened,
[2:10] what will happen to pure consciousness
[2:13] at the time of death? Same.
[2:17] [laughter]
[2:18] Isn't that that's something amazing?
[2:21] which shows very clearly that vanta is
[2:25] useless [laughter]
[2:28] for such an atma. Vanta is extremely
[2:32] helpful for whoever is watching this
[2:36] but absolutely useless for pure
[2:39] consciousness. Okay, let's see George's
[2:41] uh question.
[2:45] He asks um uh will the vida mukta so
[2:50] after death uh who is sat ananda correct
[2:53] pure consciousness will that person ever
[2:57] experience ananda in any way like he did
[3:00] before achieving the deha mti there is
[3:04] no experience
[3:07] in the absence of the mind there's no
[3:10] experience
[3:13] so after death there's no body there's
[3:16] no brain there's no mind the deha mukta
[3:20] is not reborn so there never will be
[3:23] another body and brain and mind so
[3:26] there's no experience now you might be
[3:29] thinking no experience
[3:32] plunged into the utter void of
[3:35] nothingness
[3:39] you would say to use your language
[3:45] >> [laughter]
[3:46] >> It is absolutely not like that because
[3:50] in deep sleep your mind is absent.
[3:56] Pretty miserable time you have in deep
[3:58] sleep, dreamless sleep. You love sleep.
[4:02] There's really no experience [snorts] at
[4:05] that time. It's the absence of
[4:07] experience.
[4:09] So the the issue here is is George asks
[4:13] do you experience ananda
[4:16] you don't need to experience ananda you
[4:19] are ananda
[4:22] that's what the word ananda means in
[4:24] such an ananda as we've discussed many
[4:27] times it's not something you experience
[4:30] it's who you are okay
[4:34] another question here uh this is from
[4:37] subhashani in Mumbai. Welcome. Um, how
[4:41] does one clear the imprints of the
[4:45] sukshma sharira? We can call them
[4:48] samscaras.
[4:50] We can call them vasas.
[4:52] Often when they're formed in this
[4:54] lifetime, we call them samscatas, mental
[4:56] impressions. When they come from past
[4:59] lifetime, sometimes we prefer to call
[5:01] them vas, but the words are somewhat
[5:03] interchangeable. Don't get hung up on
[5:06] the language here. [snorts] Uh uh sub uh
[5:10] subass's question is how does one clear
[5:13] them though I understand that
[5:15] consciousness is the highest reality the
[5:18] patterns of the sukchma sharer are
[5:21] running my life ah that's some real
[5:24] that's some genuine insight
[5:27] your true nature as pure consciousness
[5:29] is utterly unaffected
[5:33] by those vasas or samscatas
[5:37] But your life is certainly affected
[5:40] and the people in your life are
[5:43] certainly affected and you as an
[5:46] unenlightened person are definitely
[5:50] affected.
[5:52] So how to remove
[5:55] samscaras and vasas
[5:58] is not the approach of adwita vanta.
[6:03] In fact, it's more it's psychology
[6:05] focuses fixing the mind is the domain of
[6:09] psychology [clears throat]
[6:11] and to a lesser extent you'll see it
[6:13] also in Patanjali's yoga sutras. It's
[6:16] very important to free the mind from all
[6:19] these samscatas so that the mind rests
[6:22] in samadi continually. That's not our
[6:25] topic but I'm pointing out that these
[6:28] are approaches which attempt to make the
[6:32] mind perfect.
[6:34] So suppose you you start seeing a
[6:36] psychologist or therapist or start
[6:38] practicing some of Patanjali's uh uh
[6:43] techniques to clear your mind from all
[6:46] the sukma mind is part of the sukma. So
[6:50] suppose your task is to remove all these
[6:53] samscatas and vasas from your mind. When
[6:56] will your mind be perfectly free
[7:00] from all those samscatas and vas?
[7:04] We've discussed many times that just
[7:06] like your body can never be perfected,
[7:09] your mind can never be perfected. So any
[7:14] attempt to clear these so-called
[7:17] impressions from your mind is absolutely
[7:19] not the approach of Edwait to vanta
[7:22] because it's never reachable. It's an
[7:25] unreachable goal.
[7:28] So then what is the vantic solution to
[7:31] this problem?
[7:33] And sorry to use kind of silly language.
[7:36] Get enlightened.
[7:38] Be because
[7:40] when
[7:42] you shift your identification
[7:45] away from your body and mind and your
[7:48] roles in life and when you identify
[7:52] yourself instead with your true nature
[7:54] as such ananda atma then you know that
[7:58] all those problems of your mind don't
[8:02] affect you at all.
[8:05] That's really speaking that's the only
[8:08] complete solution. If now if if therapy
[8:14] is helpful, go for it. But undergo that
[8:17] therapy knowing that it can only work so
[8:20] far
[8:22] and and it may be it may be helpful but
[8:25] it only goes so far. So to remove some
[8:28] Scottas is not the approach of vanta but
[8:30] rather to uh
[8:35] get enlightened in the sense that you
[8:38] [clears throat] give up you not give up
[8:41] the identification habitual
[8:44] identification with your body and mind
[8:46] get removed. What remains is you
[8:51] identified with your true nature as pure
[8:54] consciousness. And you know it doesn't
[8:56] it doesn't make any difference or to use
[9:00] the expression you've heard me use many
[9:03] times to discover that you are okay no
[9:06] matter what. That's what it comes down
[9:09] to. Okay. A question from Vishaka
[9:15] Himsa.
[9:18] uh
[9:21] a himsa dilemma to protect oneself
[9:27] from someone with a toxic personality.
[9:36] How does one proceed when loving from a
[9:40] distance is not an option? Let me let me
[9:43] um let me set this question aside. It's
[9:47] is very personal and let me take it up
[9:49] in a in a more abstract uh manner.
[9:54] What to do when you are in a
[9:58] relationship
[10:00] possibly a marriage
[10:03] in which you are subjected and this is
[10:07] nothing to do with whatever this
[10:08] question was. I'm just making up a story
[10:11] just to represent a worst case scenario.
[10:15] Someone who is
[10:18] in a marriage
[10:20] being abused by their spouse
[10:25] trying to follow the path of dharma.
[10:30] Very complicated situation [snorts]
[10:34] with no easy answers.
[10:36] The way forward of course is to follow
[10:39] dharma.
[10:41] But what is dharma in that situation is
[10:45] very hard to ascertain. As we've
[10:47] discussed many times, dharma is the path
[10:50] of least harm.
[10:52] So then you evaluate does it cause
[10:56] is a path of least harm to stay in the
[11:00] marriage for the sake of the marriage,
[11:04] for the sake of the partner, for the
[11:06] sake of the children, for the sake of
[11:08] this, for the sake of that. And that
[11:11] that's a possibility that it's better to
[11:14] stay in the marriage or is it better to
[11:17] come out of the marriage for the sake of
[11:20] protecting oneself in one if you leave
[11:23] the marriage causes harm. If you don't
[11:26] leave the marriage it causes harm
[11:29] then what should you do?
[11:33] The only person who can answer that
[11:35] question is you
[11:37] because you're the only person who can
[11:39] figure out which causes less harm. I
[11:44] can't tell. No one else can tell. In
[11:47] fact, even for you, it's it's hard to
[11:49] tell. Who knows? Life is so complicated.
[11:53] then then you you know that's not very
[11:55] helpful if I say even you even you can't
[11:58] decide
[12:00] some practical suggestions
[12:03] would would include getting advice
[12:06] maybe even from a therapist family
[12:09] counselor might might be helpful maybe
[12:12] from other family members or loved ones
[12:15] who have a a more clear idea of the
[12:18] situation. Um,
[12:25] another possibility is at some point you
[12:29] have to make maybe
[12:32] this needs to be said to be in a state
[12:36] of limbo perpetually
[12:39] is unhealthy.
[12:41] And I know that happens a lot. And if if
[12:47] a partner in a marriage isn't fully
[12:49] committed, that's [snorts] difficult in
[12:53] many many ways. So at some point, a
[12:57] decision needs to be made. Either you
[13:02] decide to be in a marriage in spite of
[13:05] its shortcomings and make the best of
[13:08] it,
[13:09] or you decide to wind it up. And I I'm
[13:14] I'm not saying that one is preferable.
[13:17] I'm saying as I said, you have to decide
[13:21] which path leads to the right harm. But
[13:23] at some point that decision needs to be
[13:26] made. And the reason is that state of
[13:30] limbo, that state of of no decision is a
[13:35] is harmful. It's difficult. So make a
[13:40] decision.
[13:42] And recognize in advance your decision
[13:48] you make at the time is the best you can
[13:52] given what you know at that time and
[13:55] place. That's all you can do.
[13:58] My guru talked about this so many times
[14:01] and he said when you make a decision you
[14:04] always make a decision based on partial
[14:07] knowledge of the situation.
[14:10] What can you do then? You still have to
[14:13] make a decision. You just make the best
[14:16] decision you can. Again, take advice
[14:19] from others. Make sure that there's a
[14:22] lot of um make sure that the decision
[14:25] comes from a place of calmness.
[14:29] [snorts] When we make decisions in the
[14:31] in the heat of emotional
[14:34] disturbances,
[14:35] we often make bad decisions. So at a
[14:39] time after you've after you've explored
[14:42] all the options, after the emotions are
[14:45] settled down, after you've gotten
[14:47] advice, in a state of calmness, make a
[14:51] decision and then follow through. If you
[14:54] decide, okay, I'm going to be in this
[14:56] marriage in spite of its shortcomings,
[14:58] then work at it. Work to improve the
[15:01] marriage. Work to address the problems.
[15:04] Don't just suffer. Do whatever you can
[15:07] to improve the situation. And if you
[15:10] choose to leave the marriage, then make
[15:13] intelligent choices on how to make that
[15:16] work the best possible. My heart goes
[15:19] out to anyone and I know many many
[15:21] people deal with this kind of situation
[15:24] extremely difficult and it's it's just a
[15:27] sad situation. Next question from Vidya
[15:31] Saga who lives in Canada.
[15:34] He asks uh why is the state of Vagya
[15:38] so fickle
[15:41] and and he says for ordinary people like
[15:44] me I went to a funeral this morning I
[15:47] was full of viraa for a few hours
[15:51] and then I happily resumed my routine
[15:55] that is very it's by the way I love it
[15:58] when
[15:59] people express how alert they are to
[16:03] what's going on in their own minds and
[16:05] hearts. To me, that's a great quality.
[16:08] So, Vidya Saga, he was paying attention.
[16:11] He felt he felt great viaga dispassion.
[16:15] Immediately after the funeral, few hours
[16:17] later, he's back to whatever it was.
[16:20] Reminds me of my I just my uh my father
[16:26] who was
[16:28] he was a bit of a difficult person.
[16:30] Sometimes fathers are like that. And he
[16:33] was also difficult for my mother. But
[16:36] then he was in in uh actually in midlife
[16:40] he was diagnosed with cancer lymphoma
[16:43] which was a cancerous growth inside his
[16:45] lungs. The good news was that that's
[16:48] actually quite a treatable
[16:50] uh cancer. After treatment he was in
[16:54] full remission.
[16:56] My mother observed that short that
[16:59] during the cancer and for for many
[17:01] months afterwards he was so nice.
[17:06] [laughter]
[17:12] [laughter and cough]
[17:16] So so [laughter]
[17:19] our our emotions are like that. Frag is
[17:22] like that when we face death our own
[17:25] death or the death of others it's very
[17:27] powerful
[17:29] in shifting how we think but then we go
[17:32] back and that's how our emotions work
[17:39] which is why when vyraa is based on your
[17:43] emotions
[17:45] it's short-lived
[17:47] in fact we talked about that recently in
[17:49] our tatwa class we talked about three
[17:52] kinds of vyra
[17:54] and this is the lowest of the three. We
[17:57] call it smashana vyra. Literally the
[18:00] vyra you have on the burning grounds
[18:03] while you're watching your loved ones
[18:05] body be consumed in the flames of a
[18:08] funeral p.
[18:10] And of course that represents any tragic
[18:14] event in life can lead to this
[18:17] short-lived vyra which is based on
[18:20] emotions
[18:22] and and vidyasager points out that it's
[18:25] fickle and brief for ordinary people. Of
[18:29] course emotions are fickle and brief and
[18:33] any kind of dispassion based on emotions
[18:35] is going to be fickle and brief. So in
[18:38] our tatu bodha class we discussed three
[18:40] kinds of vayagya the most short-lived
[18:44] being that that one that vidya saga is
[18:48] is describing here based on emotions
[18:51] then the target for vdanta students is
[18:55] not that vyra but we called it va janya
[19:00] vya was the terms we used that is
[19:04] dispassion based on proper discernment.
[19:07] Discernment
[19:09] to discern the fact that no matter how
[19:12] hard you try in worldly life to gain
[19:16] perfect peace and contentment, you'll
[19:18] never ever get perfect peace and
[19:21] contentment. That recognition leads to a
[19:24] kind of vyra vyra that's not based on
[19:28] emotions.
[19:29] Vyraa that's based on va proper
[19:32] discernment. So emotional vyra the
[19:37] lowest va vyra
[19:40] dispassion based on discernment of the
[19:43] limitations of worldly life. In the
[19:45] middle the highest level of vyra is the
[19:49] vyra of an enlightened person who knows
[19:53] my well-being doesn't depend on
[19:56] anything.
[19:57] Therefore
[19:59] I'm okay no matter what. That's a kind
[20:01] of varagya as well. And that's the
[20:05] ultimate achievement through these
[20:07] spiritual teachings. Okay. A question
[20:11] from Amit who lives in India. Um there
[20:15] have been some attempts in the past to
[20:17] create utopian communities
[20:21] like Raj Nishpuram in Bay Osho or
[20:25] Ouroville.
[20:27] Orville was established actually not by
[20:29] Oroindo but by his uh successor the
[20:32] mother uh created that that asham which
[20:35] is very much a utopian community. This
[20:39] country has a rich background. United
[20:43] States has a rich background of
[20:45] Christian utopian communities. many uh
[20:49] Quakers and Shakers and all kinds of
[20:52] religious groups uh created these
[20:54] utopian communities. Rajnesh Perum was
[20:58] not a sorry to say it absolutely was not
[21:02] a utopian community. Read the accounts
[21:05] of people who lived there. It was it was
[21:09] it was a disaster in so many ways. So we
[21:12] need not discuss. So any but there are
[21:15] definitely examples of utopian
[21:18] communities
[21:20] um uh where people of uh people try to
[21:24] live in harmony.
[21:26] They try that's a good says they try to
[21:30] live in harmony. We'll circle back to
[21:32] that. So is it wrong to aspire for how
[21:35] but but such models have not scaled in
[21:38] time or they've dispersed. they which of
[21:41] those
[21:43] utopian communities have really thrived
[21:46] arguably orville is not doing too bad.
[21:50] You know, there's a large community
[21:52] there in Pondicherry. I visited there
[21:54] very briefly. I don't know too much
[21:57] about it, but there's a I think it must
[21:59] be over a thousand people living there,
[22:01] I think.
[22:03] I think so. And they have, you know,
[22:05] they all live indiv they they live
[22:07] individually. They also have communal
[22:09] activities. Anyway, so it's it's I think
[22:12] a probably a fairly successful example
[22:15] of a utopian community. But in general,
[22:18] we see that they haven't thrived. Um,
[22:20] Sudguru is also building a community in
[22:23] Tennessee
[22:25] where 30,000 meditators will live. Oh,
[22:30] God.
[22:35] I'm not sure that's a great idea.
[22:38] Uh, Mahesh Yogi also had some ideas, but
[22:42] he never established, you know, he had
[22:44] some ideas. He has a he's established a
[22:47] couple of ashrams. He has one one ashram
[22:49] up in Himalayas. I forget where. So at
[22:51] some elevation where a group of mostly
[22:55] syasis live there. So he did have these
[22:57] idealistic thoughts. But now we'll come
[22:59] to the question are such utopian models
[23:02] are they experiments are these necessary
[23:05] or should one focus on individual
[23:07] spiritual growth only? Okay. There's a
[23:11] basic problem with any utopian
[23:15] uh uh community and that is who can live
[23:19] up to those ideals.
[23:22] Anyone strives and and AIT correctly
[23:26] said they try. So you go you live in in
[23:29] an utopian community. You try the best
[23:33] you can, but you come into that
[23:36] community with all your problems
[23:40] and your in the limitations of the
[23:44] individuals in that community will
[23:47] always create problems for that
[23:49] community. No matter how lofty the
[23:51] ideals are, no matter how saintly the
[23:55] founder or leader is, it's the residents
[23:59] of that community who have their
[24:01] individual limitations. And unless
[24:05] they're all enlightened, there's going
[24:07] to be major problems. And let me point
[24:11] out having lived in ashrams most of my
[24:14] adult life
[24:16] even ashums are not utopian communities
[24:19] not at all. Everyone
[24:23] in that ashum is striving
[24:27] for enlightenment means they're not
[24:29] there yet.
[24:30] Means people have their own problems
[24:34] their own difficulties.
[24:36] My uh guru like to point out that being
[24:39] in a less than ideal ashram environment
[24:44] is not necessarily a bad thing. Very
[24:47] interesting observation just to imagine
[24:50] be it this is not a mixed question
[24:53] actually part of maybe related to a
[24:55] mitzv question is living in a utopian
[24:59] community necessarily a good thing for
[25:03] spiritual growth.
[25:05] Now on a surface level you think well of
[25:08] course if I can live in a community with
[25:11] these spiritual ideals wouldn't that be
[25:13] good? Probably.
[25:16] But in one, this is what my guru pointed
[25:18] out. Suppose you lived in in some kind
[25:21] of idealistic community in which there
[25:24] were no social conflicts.
[25:29] If have you noticed that when we have
[25:32] social conflicts, which means conflict
[25:34] with other people,
[25:37] that usually creates problems that we
[25:40] need to work through in our minds and
[25:44] our hearts. And we grow a lot
[25:48] through those encounters.
[25:51] As a young student, I remember some very
[25:54] difficult encounters with fellow
[25:56] students. And they got me I got very
[25:58] upset, very hurt, very frustrated. Also,
[26:02] a lot of self- judgment. Why am I still
[26:04] doing this? Why am I still acting like
[26:06] this? All of you know all this normal
[26:08] stuff. But honestly, going through those
[26:12] difficulties helped me grow emotionally
[26:16] and spiritually. So maybe being in an
[26:20] artificially
[26:22] nice environment
[26:25] may not be ideal for spiritual growth.
[26:31] Being
[26:34] I'm smiling.
[26:36] He my guru said again and again you know
[26:40] people people for years went to him
[26:43] decades went to him swami my marriage is
[26:46] so difficult I just want to take syasa
[26:49] how many [snorts and laughter] times
[26:51] how many times he heard that
[26:56] and his answer was lovely
[27:00] and he says being in that marriage
[27:04] he gave the example And many spiritual
[27:08] teachers have given the example of
[27:12] stones in a riverbed
[27:15] which are constantly agitated by the
[27:18] water. The stones rub against each other
[27:23] and they end up very soft rounded. All
[27:27] the rough edges are smoothed off of
[27:32] those stones. And he said marriage is
[27:35] like that. [laughter]
[27:38] The constant turbulence
[27:41] [laughter]
[27:42] of the marriage will rub off all your
[27:47] rough edges and make you a better
[27:50] person.
[27:51] What a lovely answer.
[27:54] So then few comments about utopian
[27:57] communities. Let me pause here. Do any
[28:00] questions from our students here? Okay.
[28:03] Let me give you the microphone.
[28:12] >> Okay, please
[28:21] swami, I have a very simple question.
[28:23] Nothing.
[28:23] >> Can I ask you to stand up so we can see
[28:25] you? Yeah. Thank you.
[28:27] >> Nothing profound.
[28:29] uh in the phrase hat yoga what does the
[28:31] word hata mean the reason I'm asking is
[28:35] in my language Canada language there is
[28:38] a word called hata
[28:39] >> mhm
[28:39] >> which means uh kind of stubbornness
[28:43] >> okay
[28:44] >> Hindi maybe
[28:46] >> yeah
[28:48] so so to to be forceful is is that the
[28:50] idea of of hut and it has exactly that
[28:54] meaning in Sanskrit also
[28:57] Hata yoga means forceful means applied
[29:02] for your spiritual
[29:05] uh growth.
[29:08] Um forceful means effort
[29:12] practice of asenas you are forcing your
[29:16] body into certain positions.
[29:20] Pranayyama you are forcing your breath
[29:24] into a certain pattern. It's the
[29:27] opposite of surrender. Think about it. A
[29:29] hata is the opposite of surrender. It's
[29:32] it's using effort. And
[29:36] of course, it's a good thing. Um, by the
[29:38] way, the purpose of all those asas, I
[29:41] should just since you bring it up, I
[29:42] just mentioned that uh in the uh in the
[29:46] yoga sutras, Patanjali doesn't prescribe
[29:50] any asas at all except to simply sit
[29:53] comfortably. That's all he says. sit
[29:56] comfortably.
[29:58] The reason all these asas evolved is if
[30:01] you want to sit comfortably for several
[30:03] hours at a time, your body has to be
[30:06] prepared. And asa practice really can
[30:10] help you gain that kind of healthy
[30:13] limber body so you can sit for hours at
[30:16] a time without being distracted by pain
[30:19] in your legs. Pranayyama is a very
[30:22] powerful technique
[30:25] for calming your mind. Today we know
[30:28] that it control that it's it really
[30:30] helps to control your central nervous
[30:32] system. This paras it triggers this
[30:35] parasympathetic nervous system this
[30:38] vagus nerve response. There's a lot of
[30:40] medical literature on how pranayyama can
[30:44] be so helpful. So there's a real purpose
[30:49] to those those practices. Those
[30:52] practices are part of hat yoga. But it's
[30:55] important to point out
[30:57] that those practices are preparatory
[31:02] for meditation.
[31:04] So in Patangjula's in the ashta anga in
[31:07] the eight limbs of patangjula's yoga um
[31:11] asa is number number three and
[31:15] pranayyama is number four
[31:18] if you're climbing a ladder and you stop
[31:21] halfway up the ladder
[31:23] you never get to the top
[31:26] so in the same way if you are attending
[31:29] hata yoga classes and you practice asana
[31:33] and pranayyama AMA and stop there, then
[31:37] you're only you're halfway up the
[31:40] ladder. You're not fulfilling what that
[31:43] yogic practice is about. So hat is is
[31:47] very
[31:49] there's by the way there's a fanciful
[31:52] etmology I'd like to point out and
[31:58] I forget which is which because because
[32:01] it's not a legitimate etmology. They
[32:04] break it up into two syllables H and T.
[32:08] They assoc associate one with sun and
[32:11] the other with moon. And I forget which
[32:14] which it is. It doesn't make any
[32:16] difference. Doesn't make any difference
[32:18] because it's inauthentic. It's not
[32:20] Sanskrit language at all. Someone made
[32:22] made it up. So hata has nothing to do
[32:26] with the sun and moon. It means what it
[32:29] says. Forceful, effortless, effortful
[32:33] means of of spiritual practice. Okay.
[32:38] Some more questions here. Um, this
[32:41] question comes from from Michelangelo
[32:45] who lives in Italy.
[32:49] But by the way, Michelangelo, our local
[32:52] students here are all in smiling and
[32:55] enjoying because here in the United
[32:58] States and maybe in India and around the
[33:00] the around the world, Italy is famous
[33:03] for your namesake,
[33:07] Michelangelo. Anyway, nice. Okay. Uh his
[33:11] question um vdantic teachings often help
[33:14] us [clears throat] cultivate dispassion
[33:16] and detachment from worldly matters.
[33:18] Correct. But [snorts] what if my problem
[33:20] is the opposite?
[33:24] Meaning he's too dispassionate. He's too
[33:28] detached. So he goes on to say, um, I'm
[33:31] not completely numb or emotionless, but
[33:36] due to my upbringing and past
[33:38] experiences,
[33:40] I've become accustomed to not expressing
[33:44] my emotions,
[33:47] whether positive or negative.
[33:51] A lot of people are like, especially
[33:54] men, not just men, but I would say that
[33:58] that in most cultures, there's a
[34:01] pressure on on males not to be so
[34:07] emotional.
[34:08] In in fact,
[34:12] let let me I just I just happened to see
[34:16] this analysis. I've watched some videos
[34:19] on YouTube just about about different
[34:23] approaches to spiritual life. Here's an
[34:25] interesting insight.
[34:27] Women, especially in the west or or more
[34:32] educated women, they say they want a man
[34:36] who is more emotional. They want a
[34:38] partner who is more emotional. They want
[34:41] someone and they'll even go so far as to
[34:44] say they want a partner who is
[34:46] emotionally accessible, who is
[34:48] emotionally vulnerable.
[34:52] But then what happens [snorts]
[34:55] is when your male partner expresses
[35:00] weakness and vulnerability,
[35:05] the woman gets shaken.
[35:10] She's expecting he's supposed to be the
[35:12] strong one.
[35:15] He has to take care of me.
[35:18] How can he be weak like that?
[35:22] Look at the conflict.
[35:25] So, so she says she wants vulnerability,
[35:28] but when it comes [laughter]
[35:32] anyway, so and as a result, men deal
[35:36] with these mixed messages. You can say
[35:40] just f I find it fascinating this g the
[35:43] gendered aspect of relationships I think
[35:46] is just fascinating and full of full of
[35:49] complication. It's very complicated.
[35:51] Gender in general is a very complicated
[35:54] topic and I think part of that applies
[35:56] for what Michelangelo is going through.
[35:58] We don't know about his upbringing and
[36:00] past experiences but we know for sure
[36:04] that men
[36:06] are often given the message don't be
[36:09] weak don't show your emotions.
[36:13] So, how can I become more in touch with
[36:16] my emotions and learn to express them
[36:20] more freely? It's not exactly a vantic
[36:24] topic, right? But I would say that these
[36:30] teachings of vanta help
[36:33] and they help you in in an indirect
[36:37] manner.
[36:40] How let me see how to express this.
[36:46] We all
[36:49] grow up and live in a world
[36:55] full of fear.
[36:58] Afraid of of
[37:01] many ways to approach this. Let's try
[37:03] let's try this. Afraid of how others
[37:07] think about us. [snorts] What will they
[37:10] think?
[37:11] You know, always what will the other
[37:13] person say? What will the other person
[37:15] think if I look weak?
[37:18] What what will I look like in the eyes
[37:21] of others? Very common uh fear and not
[37:24] just for maybe more for men but for
[37:27] everyone. What will they think is very
[37:29] common especially you know uh
[37:34] when when you when you ask what will
[37:37] they say you know that that common worry
[37:40] especially in a more traditional culture
[37:43] that worry about what will they think
[37:45] what will they say about us what will
[37:47] they say about me [snorts] that fear is
[37:50] very deep-seated in most people to some
[37:53] extent
[37:57] vant is pretty good at at addressing
[38:00] that particular fear, not directly but
[38:04] indirectly.
[38:05] And it indirectly it helps you recognize
[38:10] that your body and mind
[38:14] is like a set of clothing you were
[38:19] given.
[38:20] You didn't have much choice
[38:23] by the way. How much did you have much
[38:26] choice over whether you were born male
[38:28] or female? You have much choice over
[38:32] over early childhood experiences that
[38:36] really molded your personality. How much
[38:39] choice did we have? None.
[38:44] So who we are as adults
[38:47] is large not completely largely unchosen
[38:52] given to us. It's like as a child your
[38:56] parents would pick out what you wore
[38:59] each day.
[39:01] So to some extent as adults we're living
[39:04] not this [laughter]
[39:08] [cough and clears throat]
[39:10] we're living with bodies and minds that
[39:12] to a large extent were given to us and
[39:16] not chosen by us. Think about that. Not
[39:21] completely
[39:23] but to a large extent. Our bodies and
[39:26] minds were chosen for us by our parents,
[39:32] by many circumstances of our lives.
[39:36] And the good thing that Adwita vanta
[39:39] does, it makes you understand it's just
[39:42] all external stuff. [sighs]
[39:45] Just like the clothing you're you wear
[39:49] is superficial,
[39:52] even your this is very profound. Even
[39:56] your personality
[39:58] is superficial.
[40:02] Think about it.
[40:04] Just as you wear clothes, you take on a
[40:08] personality.
[40:13] The only difference is you can change
[40:14] your clothes every day. Personalities
[40:17] don't seem to change that much. They do
[40:20] change, but they don't change in the
[40:22] same way. But I would say there's some
[40:26] similarity in that clothes are
[40:29] superficial
[40:31] and to a surprising extent from a vantic
[40:36] perspective we can say personalities are
[40:40] superficial.
[40:43] Now with that in mind we can come and
[40:44] try to answer
[40:46] um uh Michelangelo's question here.
[40:54] How if you're wearing whatever clothing
[40:56] you're wearing, if someone thinks it
[40:59] looks silly,
[41:01] hopefully you're enough of an adult not
[41:04] to care.
[41:06] I mean th this, you know,
[41:10] those who care. I I get it that young
[41:14] people care. Teenagers in particular
[41:18] care a lot. Young men and young women
[41:23] may also care about how they look and
[41:26] then maybe even older people also. But
[41:29] I'm going to make an assumption now. I'm
[41:31] going to make an assumption that you're
[41:32] not a teenager or very young. And I'm
[41:35] also going to make a make an assumption
[41:38] that because you are on this path of
[41:40] adita vanta you have enough maturity not
[41:45] to care anymore.
[41:47] Who cares about you know you wear what
[41:50] you wear because it works for you. If
[41:53] somebody else doesn't like it who cares
[41:57] so I'm presuming you've come to that
[42:00] perspective in life. I hope you have
[42:03] come [laughter]
[42:04] to that perspective in life. Who cares?
[42:08] Now we make the next step. That applies
[42:11] not just to the clothing that you've
[42:14] adopted. It applies equally to the
[42:18] personality you've adopted.
[42:25] As I said, we're to a large extent we're
[42:28] given our bodies. To a large extent,
[42:31] we're given not to a large we are given
[42:33] our bodies, but to a large extent even
[42:36] our personalities are given. They're
[42:38] superficial. You don't care about what
[42:41] other people say about your clothing
[42:42] because it doesn't represent who you
[42:44] truly are.
[42:46] Doesn't that apply to your personality
[42:48] as well?
[42:51] Look at This is vdanta.
[42:54] You don't care if somebody judges you on
[42:57] your appearance. You don't care because
[42:59] you know it's not who I am. If someone
[43:02] judges you on your personality,
[43:05] wait a minute, you're not your
[43:08] personality either.
[43:12] Just as you are independent of your
[43:15] physical appearance,
[43:17] your true nature has such an adma. It's
[43:21] completely separate independent of your
[43:24] personality as well.
[43:27] So
[43:29] being judged for your personality
[43:33] ends up being the same as being judged
[43:36] for what you wear. Who cares?
[43:40] It's just what it is. [snorts]
[43:43] And this I'm kind of developing this
[43:46] because it's it's not an ordinary
[43:48] perspective.
[43:50] But it's an important perspective
[43:56] to come to accept your physical
[43:59] appearance [snorts]
[44:02] like you know whatever it is. However
[44:04] silly it may be however whatever you
[44:07] whatever you look like it is what it is.
[44:10] You can accept it completely without
[44:14] reservation with the help of these
[44:16] vdantic teachings. And in the same way
[44:19] you can accept your personality
[44:22] exactly as it is without hesitation
[44:26] without resentment without any
[44:28] hesitation if these teachings of vanta
[44:32] go in completely now we're still haven't
[44:35] answered Michelangelo's question my I
[44:39] feel very strongly that these teachings
[44:42] can eventually lead you to overcome your
[44:47] fear of being judged by others for your
[44:53] expression of emotions.
[44:56] If you express your emotions and they
[44:59] judge you, that's their problem.
[45:04] I would also add though, if you don't
[45:06] express your emotions and they judge
[45:09] you, that's also their problem. Who
[45:12] cares?
[45:14] If you feel like expressing your
[45:16] emotions, express. If you don't feel
[45:19] like expressing your emotions, don't
[45:23] express. Anyway, just some some
[45:26] interesting vantic take as it were on a
[45:30] very uh emotional kind of uh question.
[45:34] Okay.
[45:36] Uh question here from
[45:41] from Amundep.
[45:44] Amand deep doesn't say where he lives.
[45:47] Um why do religious and spiritual
[45:50] traditions have such a hostile attitude
[45:53] towards our bodies? A nice transition
[45:56] from that topic to this. Um, why do some
[46:00] why do religious and spiritual
[46:02] traditions have such a hostile attitude
[46:05] towards our bodies and sexuality in
[46:08] particular? Referring to homosexuality,
[46:12] why can't we just accept our humanity?
[46:18] Wow.
[46:19] >> [snorts]
[46:20] >> Um,
[46:22] we could speak for hours and hours about
[46:24] this and obviously we we don't want to
[46:27] do that here.
[46:32] Yes,
[46:34] we can find in all the religions of the
[46:37] world including Hinduism, we can find
[46:42] statements
[46:43] highly critical of unconventional sexual
[46:48] behaviors etc etc
[46:52] um their biblical statement and this is
[46:55] such a huge topic I I don't think I can
[46:59] even get started on in this topic. So
[47:02] what I want let me let me just cut to
[47:05] the very end of the topic which which is
[47:09] the point where I would say nature is
[47:13] natural.
[47:16] Nature is neither good nor bad.
[47:20] Nature is natural. Nature is not a I
[47:25] don't know how many times I have to say
[47:27] that nature is not good or bad. Nature
[47:30] is natural. Homosexuality occurs in
[47:34] every animal species we've studied.
[47:38] Why would we expect it to be absent in
[47:40] human beings? That doesn't make any
[47:43] sense.
[47:46] It's neither good nor bad. It's just
[47:49] part of nature. homosexuality
[47:53] being transgender. Same. There are
[47:56] plenty of examples in nature among
[48:00] animal species of homosexuality and
[48:04] transgender uh situations.
[48:08] Besides the fact that that even this
[48:10] division into male and female is
[48:13] arbitrary,
[48:15] there are dozens of interex condition
[48:21] interex conditions where somebody is not
[48:25] genetically male or genetically female.
[48:28] They're in between genetically.
[48:31] So anyway, the sad thing that occurs,
[48:35] and this is a topic that we can't get
[48:37] into, is how these
[48:42] unusual situations get weaponized.
[48:46] To me, that's very sad. Unconventional
[48:50] sexualities get weaponized. And I
[48:54] Anyway, that's I I think we can't go
[48:58] there. it'll just end up being a very
[49:01] big topic.
[49:04] Um,
[49:11] [sighs]
[49:13] okay. Oh my gosh, there's there are so
[49:16] many questions coming from our online
[49:19] students. I apologize. We can't possibly
[49:23] um get into all those questions. We'll
[49:25] just take maybe one or two more here and
[49:27] wrap up for today. Uh this question
[49:30] comes from one one of our local students
[49:32] Pinky uh who asks um about Elon Musk's
[49:39] neural link.
[49:41] So this this Elon Musk I think is is he
[49:46] the wealthiest person in the on the
[49:48] planet? [snorts] So and involved in lots
[49:52] of activities as as as we all know. One
[49:55] of which is a company called Neurolink
[49:58] which uh their their first venture was
[50:02] to create a machine brain interface by
[50:07] implanting electrodes in the brain that
[50:11] can then be connected to a computer. And
[50:14] this is in this is a [snorts] new
[50:16] technology. It's in its infancy and in
[50:20] my opinion it's a great technology
[50:21] because it's going to eventually allow
[50:24] deaf people to talk, blind people to
[50:26] see, uh paralyzed people to to act. It
[50:32] it'll take decades for it to be
[50:35] realized, but in the long run, it's
[50:37] going to be a great uh technology. If
[50:40] you're worried about creating a
[50:42] Frankenstein,
[50:45] you're too focused on a hundred-year-old
[50:48] story.
[50:50] And we're we'll talk about the fear
[50:52] factor in just a moment. The the new
[50:55] venture I think this is a is a reference
[50:57] to is putting
[51:01] brain matter neurons
[51:05] on a in a computer chip.
[51:10] Um,
[51:12] and the there's some fear associated in
[51:15] where this can lead. We're seeing lots
[51:18] of of new technologies that could, you
[51:23] know, you can you get this Frankenstein
[51:26] scenario in your mind. If you can put a
[51:29] few if you can put if you can put 10
[51:32] neurons on a computer chip then you can
[51:35] put 10 billion neur brain cells on a
[51:41] computer chip. 10 neurons is nothing. 10
[51:44] billion is well 10 trillion. Now you're
[51:47] getting someplace.
[51:49] The mind is is tens and hundreds of
[51:53] billions of neurons with trillions of
[51:57] synapses. So got a long way to go. And
[52:01] with these budding technologies and
[52:03] nowadays AI has a lot of people afraid.
[52:07] Okay, let we'll talk about this for a
[52:09] few minutes. We'll let this be the last
[52:11] uh question for today.
[52:14] A lot of new technologies are bringing
[52:16] fear and AI is is in the news a lot
[52:22] today and for good reason. I mean there
[52:24] are major breakthroughs which have huge
[52:27] consequences for the future and we see
[52:30] these new new technologies and we get
[52:32] afraid what if what if what if what if
[52:36] well [gasps]
[52:37] let's take a perspective get get some
[52:40] perspective on it. We have seen new
[52:44] technologies emerge throughout history
[52:48] and every technology that has emerged
[52:51] has changed human culture and has
[52:56] revealed good and bad sides. Let's take
[53:00] a a technological
[53:03] something that we forget how huge it was
[53:08] 400 some years ago was the printing
[53:13] press [snorts]
[53:15] revolutionized human culture
[53:19] and you know please note that it had a
[53:25] dark shadow side. Look how much hate
[53:27] literature
[53:29] has been published over the years. How
[53:32] about the industry in pornography?
[53:38] Downsides of publishing.
[53:41] Hate literature, hate speech, and
[53:43] pornography are the dark sides of
[53:47] publishing technology.
[53:50] No technology is without its dark side.
[53:55] In our lifetimes, nuclear energy,
[54:01] those two bombs dropped on Japan put an
[54:05] end to the war, but at a cost of
[54:08] hundreds of thousands of lives.
[54:12] On the other hand, nuclear technology
[54:16] is on the cusp of solving the global
[54:20] warming problem.
[54:26] Think think about it
[54:28] people. We've been afraid of nuclear
[54:31] energy for a long time because of the
[54:34] problems it's caused. Not just killing
[54:37] hundreds of thousands of people in
[54:39] Japan, but uh problems with reactors,
[54:42] especially the Chernobyl disaster. By
[54:45] the way, the Fukushima disaster is not
[54:48] an issue at all. it compared to fu to to
[54:52] Chernobyl. Fukushima is this big a
[54:55] problem. Chernobyl is a big problem.
[55:00] And we learned a lesson. Don't build
[55:04] reactors like that. [laughter]
[55:06] [gasps] No one is ever ever again going
[55:10] to build a reactor like the Chernobyl
[55:12] reactor. It was designed to blow up.
[55:17] I'm not kidding. It was designed in such
[55:20] a way that it was capable of blowing up
[55:22] like that. And it did. No surprise.
[55:27] So we are now intelligent enough to
[55:30] build reactors that don't blow up. Now
[55:35] you may not agree with me because this
[55:37] is kind of one of these politicized
[55:39] topics, but as a person with some
[55:42] technical background, I to me it looks
[55:46] very clear. The future generations of
[55:49] nuclear reactors will be completely
[55:51] safe. Completely safe. Worst case, they
[55:56] burn up. You have to bury them for all
[55:59] time. That's it. Just stick it in the
[56:02] ground someplace where no one won't dig
[56:04] it up and leave it be. No one will ever
[56:08] be harmed by nuclear energy again.
[56:11] Nuclear energy can then put an end to
[56:14] burning fossil fuels.
[56:16] If we stop burning fossil fuels, what
[56:19] will happen to our our global warming
[56:22] problem? It's actually a solution.
[56:26] So, look at this. We focus on what's
[56:29] what what we're afraid of. Another
[56:31] Chernobyl. There will never be another
[56:36] Chernobyl.
[56:38] Doesn't mean the dark shadow has been
[56:40] removed.
[56:42] >> [sighs]
[56:43] >> I'm sighing because United States and uh
[56:46] Russia still have huge
[56:50] stockpiles of nuclear weapons. God save
[56:55] us if any of those nuclear weapons
[56:58] should ever be used. Horrible.
[57:01] Unthinkably horrible.
[57:04] But look at the situation. Both exist
[57:08] with regard to nuclear power.
[57:11] The possibility of solving the problem
[57:14] of global warming is possib it's it's
[57:17] there. The possibility of annihilating
[57:21] mankind is also there.
[57:25] That's how technology works. It's a
[57:28] matter of how we use the technology.
[57:33] So my my hope and belief is that nuclear
[57:36] power is going to save mankind from
[57:41] global warming which could could
[57:44] actually wipe out mankind could
[57:48] possible.
[57:50] The science is there to show that it is
[57:52] a possibility that global warming, the
[57:56] effect of human beings on the
[57:59] environment could exterminate human
[58:02] beings. Not saying will, saying could.
[58:06] And nuclear power could [snorts]
[58:09] be a solution to that. nuclear power. If
[58:13] those no stockpiles are ever unleashed,
[58:18] nuclear power can wipe us all out. So,
[58:20] it's up to us how we use these
[58:24] technologies. It's equally true for
[58:27] artificial intelligence. It's equally
[58:30] true for for any this neural [snorts]
[58:35] neural link research, whatever it is,
[58:37] it's equally true.
[58:41] But we can't live in fear.
[58:44] I I I think we should have a lot of
[58:47] trust in the intelligence of people to
[58:53] figure out how to avoid the problems.
[58:57] Notice that, you know, in print on the
[59:01] internet, the good far outweighs the
[59:05] bad, right?
[59:07] Pornography is there, hate speech is
[59:09] there, but wouldn't you agree it's
[59:12] fairly small relative to what the good
[59:16] parts of publishing is. I think nuclear
[59:19] energy is going to end up like that as
[59:21] well.
[59:22] That the good will so much outweigh the
[59:25] bad that in a 100red years nuclear
[59:29] energy is going to be the savior of this
[59:33] of this global warming crisis.
[59:37] Um, and I think after we get through
[59:40] this bumpy beginning part with AI,
[59:44] I really feel in the long run, it's
[59:48] going to be a tremendous blessing. Yes,
[59:50] there'll be bumps there.
[59:54] You think of nuclear energy got off to a
[59:56] rough start, right, with the bombings in
[1:00:00] Japan and with a meltdown in Chernobyl.
[1:00:04] horrible start, but just having that
[1:00:07] horrible start doesn't prevent it from
[1:00:10] having a great long run future. And I I
[1:00:16] feel strongly AI can be in that same
[1:00:20] category. We may see some big bumps in
[1:00:24] in the short run. I'm waiting for for AI
[1:00:27] to somehow infect the stock market and
[1:00:30] cause a stock market crash. That's a
[1:00:32] definite possibility.
[1:00:35] That's that would be evidence of the
[1:00:37] kind of harm AI could could cause.
[1:00:42] I But my gut feeling, you don't have to
[1:00:44] agree with me. I'm just sharing with you
[1:00:46] my impression is I I tend to be an
[1:00:49] optimist and trust that intelligent
[1:00:52] people will do intelligent things and in
[1:00:55] the long run will be blessed even by by
[1:00:58] AI. Okay. sharing some personal comments
[1:01:01] here but we'll conclude our satssung
[1:01:05] here.
[1:01:07] [sighs]
[1:01:32] Thomas
[1:01:42] Shanty Shanty
[1:01:45] Shanty.
[1:01:48] Boom.
[1:01:50] See you next time.