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Meditation Practice Q&A: Building Consistencyand Working With Challenges

Sharon Salzberg
Sharon Salzberg
Feb 9, 2021
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TLDR: In this Real Happiness Challenge Q&A webinar, Sharon Salzberg addresses core obstacles that arise when establishing or renewing a meditation practice. She discusses why daily commitment serves better than sporadic practice, practical approaches to working with anxiety and racing mind during meditation, how to meet grief with compassionate awareness, and the importance of short practice moments embedded in ordinary life rather than waiting for ideal conditions. The webinar reflects on how structured challenges create community during isolation and how different meditation objects and approaches can serve different practitioners.

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Why Daily Practice Beats Sporadic Meditation

One of the foundational insights Salzberg offers is a personal testimony about her own relationship to structure. She acknowledges not everyone shares this need, but for herself, committing to daily meditation—even for just a few minutes—works far better than aiming for three sessions per week. "If I were thinking about three days a week," she explains, "it would be Monday and I think 'I'll start on Wednesday,' then it'd be Wednesday and I'll think, 'Oh, I think I'll do it three times on Saturday.' But every day is every day."

This observation speaks to the psychology of habit formation. When the mind has flexibility about when to practice, it tends to defer, negotiate, and eventually skip. A fixed daily slot—even a modest one—removes that negotiation entirely. The Real Happiness Challenge, which runs for 28 days aligned with February's length, was designed precisely to offer this template. Salzberg notes that the structured framework helps practitioners "feel some greater support in your practice," whether you're beginning entirely fresh or returning after a gap. The point is not to practice for hours; it is to establish the rhythm of returning, day after day, with kindness to yourself when you miss or struggle.

How to Work With Anxiety and Racing Mind During Meditation?

A recurring practical question concerns what to do when anxiety, a racing mind, or restlessness dominates the meditation session. Salzberg addresses this by referencing instruction she received from the Burmese teacher Sayadaw U Pandita, who visited in 1984. Rather than fighting the mind's speed or trying to force calm, she suggests experimenting with a different approach: working with the sensations of anxiety in the body itself.

Many practitioners lock all their effort into controlling the breath or anchoring to the breath when the mind is agitated. But if "you hold tension in the rest of your body and you can't release that," breath work alone becomes an incomplete strategy. Instead, Salzberg proposes bringing awareness directly to where the anxiety lives physically—perhaps tightness in the chest, restlessness in the legs, or contraction in the belly. "It might be that you make the experiment with being willing to be with what's there," she says, without the demand that it disappear.

She also normalizes shorter practice periods for people in acute distress. "You don't have to sit for an hour with your eyes closed." Walking meditation, a few conscious breaths, or even lying down while bringing awareness to sensation can raise the nervous system's capacity to meet the moment. The idea is to find what practice form doesn't amplify the anxiety itself but creates a little space to observe and be present with what's happening.

Can You Meditate Through Deep Grief?

Another substantial question concerns meditation when someone is experiencing profound loss or grief. Salzberg approaches this with both practicality and wisdom. She acknowledges that grief is often accompanied by a collapse of energy and motivation—the sense that nothing feels worth doing. A person in deep grief might feel, rightly, that sitting still with their sadness is unbearable.

Her approach honors this reality while offering a gateway. Rather than insisting on traditional sitting practice, she suggests that meditation during grief might take forms like loving-kindness practice or even simple awareness while engaged in ordinary activity. She recounts an instance in which a child who had experienced significant loss was invited to put a stuffed animal on their belly and breathe, then think of a friend they liked—a micro-practice that anchored the child in both sensation and connection without demanding intellectual or emotional performance.

The deeper principle is that meditation during grief need not be about "achieving" anything. It can be about bearing witness, staying present with loss, and gradually discovering that the mind has room for both sorrow and, eventually, memory of other things—generosity, moments of beauty, or kindness received. Salzberg notes that "if anything," the practice deepens during grief because there is less pretense, less grasping for a different experience than what is.

What If Meditation Feels Too Uncomfortable or Resistant?

Salzberg addresses the honest experience that some people have visceral resistance to sitting still or closing their eyes. For some, the instruction to focus on breath triggers panic; for others, stillness feels unbearable. Rather than pathologizing this resistance or insisting the person is "doing it wrong," she suggests reframing the investigation itself.

If a particular instruction or posture activates discomfort, the first move is not to push through but to experiment. "If that is gonna like, just be too weird," Salzberg says—speaking directly to the resistance—one can modify the form. Eyes open instead of closed. Walking instead of sitting. Attention on the feet or hands instead of the breath. Sound instead of internal sensation. The point is to find a doorway into awareness that doesn't trigger shutdown.

She also gently addresses the pattern of using discomfort as a reason to abandon the practice altogether. "I'll just assume it's not worth doing" is a thought that arises, but it deserves a second look. The discomfort itself is data—something the practice reveals about the mind and body. Working skillfully with resistance, rather than fleeing it, is often where the deepest learning happens.

How Can You Build Practice Into an Ordinary, Busy Life?

Much of the Q&A addresses the practical reality that most people do not have monastic conditions or extensive free time. Salzberg emphasizes the value of "short moments many times" rather than waiting for the perfect hour-long session. A few conscious breaths while waiting for coffee to brew, five minutes while sitting on the bus, or even a minute of embodied presence while doing dishes counts as practice.

This democratizes meditation. You do not have to be retired, wealthy, or living in a retreat center to deepen awareness. The challenge with this approach is the mind's tendency to dismiss small moments as "not real practice." But Salzberg points out that consistency and gentle repetition, accumulated across the day, often transforms the mind more reliably than rare, extended sits. The nervous system learns through these repeated moments of arrival and remembrance.

She also addresses a common discouragement: if you miss a day, or several days, do not weaponize the failure. Simply return. "Let go and we begin again" is the core instruction. The habit is not shattered by one lapse; it is disrupted only by the thought that it is disrupted and the decision not to return.

What Is the Role of Community in Sustaining Practice?

Salzberg emphasizes that the Real Happiness Challenge, which attracted 12,000 participants across the globe in 2021, serves purposes beyond personal meditation instruction. It creates what she calls "a sense of community which is quite wonderful," especially "in these days where so many people are feeling isolated and quite lonely and cut off."

The shared commitment to 28 days of reflection, the written questions and answers, the live webinar gathering—all of these reinforce that one is not meditating in a vacuum but as part of a much larger movement. This matters for sustenance. When motivation flags, the awareness that others are sitting, struggling, discovering, and returning can rekindle your own effort. The challenge also offers permission: it is explicitly a beginners' program or a renewal program, which means there is no expectation of advanced attainment, only honest engagement with what arises.

Where to Go From Here

If you are new to meditation or returning after a gap, the insights from this webinar suggest a few clear directions. First, experiment with daily practice, even if brief, rather than aiming for sporadic longer sessions. Second, adjust the form—breath, body awareness, sound, walking, eyes open or closed—until you find what genuinely feels sustainable for you. Third, when challenges arise—anxiety, grief, resistance, distraction—investigate them with curiosity rather than judgment; they are part of the process, not failures.

Fourth, do not wait for perfect conditions. A few conscious moments amid ordinary life matter. And finally, seek or create community around your practice, whether through a formal challenge, a sitting group, or even a trusted friend. Salzberg's decade-long facilitation of the Real Happiness Challenge speaks to the power of structure and witness in sustaining what can otherwise feel like a solitary, daunting path.

Transcript

[0:04] - A big welcome to everybody while you're coming in.

[0:07] I know a lot of folks you're just arriving to the Zoom.

[0:13] My name is Lily and I am Sharon's Director

[0:17] of Operations and run this Challenge for her every year

[0:21] and am happy to be here with you guys.

[0:27] Sharon, you wanna say hi so we know we can hear you?

[0:30] - Hello, it's lovely to be here with you all.

[0:35] I don't know if you feel

[0:36] like putting in the chat where you're tuning in from.

[0:40] I always enjoy that feeling

[0:43] of seeing that just as we are gathering more fully,

[0:51] mostly what people were writing was

[0:53] "has this started?"

[0:54] "I don't hear anything."

[0:55] (Sharon laughs)

[0:57] Oh, look at all this.

[1:00] - Amazing, so I thought I would just welcome you all

[1:07] and give you some particulars

[1:10] about the flow of our time today.

[1:14] We are really just coming together here to give you a chance

[1:19] to ask questions

[1:22] to Sharon about your experience this month

[1:24] with the Meditation Challenge.

[1:26] And we've been getting some great questions in the comments

[1:30] but it's not always the same thing

[1:32] as actually getting to see Sharon live.

[1:36] So that's part of why we wanted to offer the space

[1:39] and also to kind of gather virtually. Often when

[1:44] we do this Challenge every year

[1:46] we have like a big launch party

[1:48] in-person in New York or in past we've also done it in LA.

[1:52] So, we get to do it a little bit virtually this year.

[1:57] And we're also streaming this on Facebook.

[2:00] So I know there's gonna be people also

[2:01] watching us who aren't actually doing the Challenge

[2:04] and just thought it would be beneficial

[2:07] for everybody to kind of be part of the conversation.

[2:13] So, we have about an hour together

[2:16] and I'll be moderating the conversation

[2:21] since there's so many of you attending

[2:26] we thought that would be just a little more stream-lined.

[2:28] And if you'd like to ask a question

[2:30] you can do so by clicking in the Q&A box

[2:34] and typing in your question there,

[2:38] instead of in the chat

[2:39] where you all just listed your location

[2:43] freezing in Hell's Kitchen, New York, Ohio.

[2:47] (Lily laughs)

[2:49] And then I'll be sorting

[2:50] through the questions and some of them will be similar.

[2:55] So that we'll kind of combine.

[2:56] Some of them will be unique.

[2:58] And we also have some other questions

[2:59] are coming in from Facebook.

[3:01] So, we are recording this

[3:05] so it will be available for everyone later.

[3:09] We have about 12,000 people doing the Challenge this year

[3:13] from all over the place.

[3:15] So the folks in Europe and Australia are not live

[3:21] with us right now because they're sleeping.

[3:22] So they'll watch it later.

[3:24] - At least one is here from Australia!

[3:26] So I was thinking

[3:27] "what time is it?" like good morning or something?

[3:30] - Good morning to them. (laughs)

[3:33] Without further ado, we'll pass it to you,

[3:36] Sharon.

[3:41] - Fabulous, thank you so much, Lily.

[3:45] The Challenge actually began I guess

[3:48] 11 years ago now when I wrote a book called "Real Happiness"

[3:55] and the original title

[3:57] was "Real Happiness, the Power of Meditation,

[3:59] "a 28 Day Program," and a woman named Ambika

[4:03] who's working with me at the time said,

[4:06] "The book's coming out in January, February has 28 days.

[4:09] "Let's do a challenge."

[4:10] And I thought, "maybe"

[4:12] and it proved to be, I think a wonderful suggestion.

[4:16] It does many things as those of you

[4:18] who are trying it out know.

[4:20] It does create a sense of community

[4:23] which is quite wonderful.

[4:24] And especially

[4:25] in these days where so many people are feeling isolated

[4:31] and quite lonely and cut off.

[4:33] It's kind of amazing to be able to come together

[4:36] with people around the same values and the same kind

[4:40] of interest and reflection and contemplation.

[4:45] It also is a program

[4:48] for either beginning or renewing a meditation practice.

[4:52] And I'm the kind of person (not everyone is)

[4:55] but I'm the kind

[4:56] of person that feels well-served by structure.

[5:00] I often joke, although it's very true that, it's very good

[5:04] for me to have the intention to meditate every day,

[5:08] even if not for very long each day,

[5:11] because for me to try to practice three days a week

[5:15] and I know the challenge,

[5:16] encourages that if that's what you feel is right for you.

[5:22] But for me, if I were thinking about three days a week

[5:25] it would be Monday and I think "I'll start on Wednesday"

[5:28] then it'd be Wednesday and I'll think,

[5:29] "Oh, I think I'll do it three times on Saturday."

[5:33] But every day is every day.

[5:35] And to have a time defined commitment,

[5:40] not the rest of my life,

[5:41] but something that feels really

[5:43] manageable is something that really serves me very well.

[5:47] So this is like our effort to offer a template

[5:55] for you to see what practices may be appealing

[5:59] or challenging in a good kind of way

[6:03] and to work with different structures

[6:07] so that you can feel some greater support in your practice.

[6:11] So I'd like to begin

[6:13] by doing a short period of meditation together.

[6:15] I always find it really helpful

[6:18] just to more fully get a sense

[6:21] of arriving and kind of gathering our energy together

[6:26] whatever you were doing just before tuning in,

[6:31] there's always something.

[6:32] and it's something

[6:33] about recognizing the energy it took to get here

[6:37] and not doing the other thing that was calling you

[6:40] or dealing with technology as might be the case.

[6:48] And now we're here.

[6:49] So let's just sit together for a few minutes.

[6:53] You can sit comfortably, close your eyes or not.

[6:57] However you feel most at ease.

[7:06] We can start just by listening to sound

[7:08] whether it's the sound of my voice or other sounds.

[7:14] If you could have the sounds come and go

[7:17] just wash through you.

[7:19] Even though of course we like certain sounds

[7:21] and we don't like others.

[7:43] Bring your attention to the feeling of your body, sitting

[7:46] whatever sensations you discover.

[7:49] See if you can feel the earth supporting you

[7:57] Feel space touching you.

[8:00] Usually we think about touching space.

[8:02] When we think about

[8:03] Like a finger and poking it in the air

[8:07] but really space is already touching us.

[8:10] So he's touching us

[8:12] and you can move into receptive mode.

[8:51] Bringing your attention

[8:52] to your hands and see if you move

[8:56] from that more conceptual level of go fingers to the world

[9:01] of direct sensation,

[9:03] picking up pulsing, throbbing pressure

[9:06] whatever it might be.

[9:08] You don't have to name these things, but feel them.

[9:26] And bringing your attention to the feeling of your breath.

[9:28] Just the normal natural breath

[9:31] wherever you feel it most distinctly the nostrils,

[9:35] the chest or the abdomen.

[9:37] You can find that place

[9:39] bring your attention there and just rest.

[9:44] And if you have not been using the breath

[9:46] but using another object as a kind of home base,

[9:49] go there feeling of your hands,

[9:52] touching your hands,

[9:54] touching your knee, whatever it might be.

[9:59] The idea is a place to rest.

[10:03] We we don't have to manufacture

[10:04] or embellish the experience.

[10:06] We can simply be with it.

[10:28] And if you find yourself distracted

[10:30] lost in thought, tossed around

[10:33] in a fantasy or you fall asleep, truly

[10:35] don't worry about it. You can recognize you've been gone.

[10:41] See if you can let go gently

[10:44] and with great kindness toward yourself

[10:48] bring yourself back to the breath or that primary object.

[10:57] We let go and we begin again.

[13:02] And when you feel ready, you can open your eyes

[13:04] or lift your gaze and we'll end the meditation.

[13:17] So thank you so much for that.

[13:20] Somebody wrote in the chat,

[13:22] they wondered where I was tuning in from.

[13:24] So I'm in Barre, Massachusetts next door through the forest

[13:28] a little ways from the Insight Meditation Society

[13:33] which is about to have a pretty big anniversary.

[13:36] It's the 45th anniversary, February 14th on Valentine's day.

[13:42] And it's been closed since maybe March 16th,

[13:50] something like that, but it's there.

[13:56] And it's kind of amazing.

[13:58] I went over there a while ago,

[14:02] couple of months ago,

[14:04] so it had already been closed for a really long time.

[14:07] I went over to film something because

[14:09] it was the only space that was big enough to do it.

[14:13] And I went into the meditation hall and it was like as full

[14:18] of light and presence as

[14:19] it always had been. It wasn't like... it didn't feel

[14:24] deserted or kind of empty.

[14:26] It was really very interesting.

[14:27] And we're looking forward someday to... I'm quite

[14:31] confident we'll reopen, whenever that happens.

[14:35] So that's where I am is Massachusetts.

[14:38] Great.

[14:42] - Well, I thought we would start the questions

[14:44] with... we have a number of questions coming

[14:49] in that are kind of starting from a pretty practical place

[14:52] of people who are sitting for the first time

[14:57] with the breath and just having some difficulty

[15:00] with having a natural breath and not having it be affected

[15:04] once they start to pay attention to it.

[15:07] And I was wondering

[15:09] if you could just speak to that a little bit.

[15:13] - Well, I think it's inevitable probably

[15:15] that the breath will be affected somewhat.

[15:18] And so you don't really wanna make a project

[15:21] out of having a natural breath

[15:23] because then you'll constantly be assessing

[15:26] and evaluating and getting tense and more tense.

[15:30] And the idea is really not to have a preconceived notion

[15:34] so that you're dissatisfied from the beginning.

[15:37] Like, "my breath isn't deep enough,

[15:39] it's not filling my body."

[15:41] And there are other systems which work

[15:45] with the breath

[15:46] in a very deliberate way to get it to be different

[15:49] than the way it is,

[15:50] but that's not this system.

[15:52] And so it's not putting those other systems down.

[15:55] That can be really great for what they are.

[15:57] This is considered more an awareness practice

[16:00] than a breath practice.

[16:01] And so we just use the breath.

[16:03] If you use the breath

[16:06] as what we call that primary object or home-base.

[16:10] In part because as my early teachers would say,

[16:13] "first of all you don't have to believe anything

[16:16] in order to feel the breath.

[16:18] You don't have to call yourself a Buddhist

[16:19] or Hindu or reject anything else.

[16:22] If you're breathing, you can be meditating."

[16:25] And then one said, I always felt very charmingly.

[16:27] He said, "the breath is very portable."

[16:30] So if you practice for 12 minutes a day,

[16:34] which is the latest number I've heard

[16:36] from a neuroscientist friend of mine, to change your brain

[16:39] it's 12 minutes a day.

[16:41] We can talk about that later.

[16:43] If you practice

[16:43] for 12 minutes a day in a more formal, dedicated way.

[16:48] And in part you use the breath to come back

[16:51] to yourself to come back to this moment

[16:54] then you're at work or you're commuting,

[16:56] you're in some crazy situation with a lot of pressure,

[17:00] a lot of agitation, a lot of anxiety,

[17:02] you have the breath.

[17:04] And it's right there for you as a resource.

[17:07] And I always appreciated, there's totally private. It's like

[17:10] nobody has to know you're doing it, you're breathing

[17:13] in order to center.

[17:16] And then the third reason the breath is often chosen

[17:21] is also the reason why it doesn't always work for people,

[17:24] which is that it's said to be fairly neutral.

[17:28] This is just the home base for our attention.

[17:30] It's not the ultimate goal of this kind of meditation

[17:34] to just be with the breath.

[17:35] And so there may be many things,

[17:38] and there are many things

[17:39] that arise in the course of one's meditation,

[17:42] that are beautiful and wondrous

[17:44] and heartening and uplifting.

[17:47] And there are many things that may arise that are

[17:49] disconcerting, like "I thought I got rid of that long ago.

[17:53] Or why is that still there?

[17:54] Or they've avoided this nicely for a long time

[17:57] but here it is," or whatever it might be.

[18:01] And then we have the breath, which is just the place

[18:03] to chill, to recalibrate what it feels like to simply be

[18:08] with an experience.

[18:10] And so that's really what the breath

[18:15] is serving as and again,

[18:16] it may not be serving

[18:18] you may choose another object

[18:20] and we offer several possibilities having to do

[18:25] with touch sensation and moving your attention

[18:27] through your body or listening to sound,

[18:30] which will serve in exactly the same way.

[18:32] So in this system,

[18:34] it's not really about how you are breathing.

[18:38] - Great, and then the next question

[18:40] that's kind of in that same department is just around folks,

[18:45] I've had several questions come in about when

[18:49] they're becoming uncomfortable in their sitting posture

[18:52] how long to stay with it before making an adjustment?

[19:03] - I don't think there's a formula.

[19:07] I'm smiling because many teachers,

[19:11] many approaches will say something different.

[19:14] And I've often felt at this point in my life

[19:18] having meditated for so long

[19:20] and with so many different teachers that it's almost

[19:24] like different schools might have an approach

[19:26] where they're trying to deepen a particular quality

[19:31] of mind first or primarily.

[19:36] And once that's strengthened

[19:38] then they open up to include others.

[19:42] So you get,

[19:44] in the end you get a more balanced group

[19:49] of qualities that you really have developed.

[19:55] Some approaches really will have that central

[19:58] quality be resolution and determination.

[20:01] And they will say, sit there through the pain.

[20:06] We once brought here

[20:07] in Barre to the Insight Meditation Society

[20:10] we once brought a very renowned Burmese monk

[20:13] named Taungpulu Sayadaw to teach.

[20:17] And we were just next door

[20:19] just doing a kind of casual Q&A session

[20:23] in this room where... This is a long time ago,

[20:26] this was when, like the only furniture we had

[20:28] were stuff that people's families

[20:31] and given us the things like that.

[20:32] So we had like these plush arm chairs

[20:35] in this particular room,

[20:36] and we're all sitting

[20:37] on the floor and somebody asks Taungpulu Sayadaw,

[20:40] "How long should I sit being with pain?"

[20:45] Exactly this question,

[20:46] "before I do something else?"

[20:49] And Taungpulu Sayadaw said "don't be with it very long."

[20:54] And he pointed to one of those plush armchairs and said

[20:57] "Get up right away and sit in one of those."

[21:00] All I could think was, "Where were you when I was

[21:02] like practicing in India?

[21:04] Sweating and trying and sitting

[21:06] on the floor and they were no armchairs."

[21:10] The idea is to remember: the goal is not to break

[21:13] through pain and certainly not to injure yourself.

[21:16] The goal is to have a more balanced relationship

[21:19] to everything that comes our way.

[21:22] So, you might not leap

[21:26] to your feet right away and look for an armchair

[21:28] unless you're already in an armchair,

[21:29] which is also possible.

[21:33] But you also might move your attention

[21:35] to something that's easier to be

[21:37] with. I had another Burmese teacher,

[21:39] Sayadaw U Pandita who we brought here in 1984

[21:43] who was extremely fierce and intense

[21:47] and he was a wonderful teacher, but he was really tough.

[21:50] And one day he was doing a question

[21:53] and answer session in the meditation hall.

[21:55] And somebody asked,

[21:56] "How long should I pay attention to pain,

[21:59] looking at physical pain, before I move my attention

[22:03] to something that's easier to be with?"

[22:05] So that might be listening to sound

[22:07] it might be feeling something

[22:08] in your body that's kind of refreshing or soothing.

[22:13] It might mean doing lovingkindness practice,

[22:16] something like that.

[22:18] And it's a very interesting question

[22:19] because it also figures in our understanding

[22:22] of emotional pain, heartache, disappointment.

[22:27] How long should I just be

[22:28] with it before I moved to something that's easier.

[22:32] And I thought, given U Pandita's personality

[22:36] he was gonna say,

[22:37] "you should just be with the pain until you fall over."

[22:39] I really did.

[22:40] And to my astonishment, he said :don't be

[22:42] with it for very long,

[22:44] be with the pain, move to something that's easier.

[22:49] Maybe go back to the pain

[22:51] and then move to something that's easier."

[22:53] He said "it's not wrong to like be

[22:55] with the pain and be with the pain

[22:57] and be with the pain, but you'll likely get exhausted.

[23:00] So why not build in balance all along the way?"

[23:03] And I was sitting there thinking,

[23:05] "Wow if those words are coming out of his mouth,

[23:06] it must really be true." Because he was

[23:11] like the furthest thing in the universe

[23:12] from somebody who would say something just to be nice.

[23:16] And this is a very important consideration.

[23:18] People feel, if you give that instruction,

[23:22] people often will respond with,

[23:23] "Well you think I can't do the real thing?

[23:26] You're giving me like this remedial work.

[23:28] If I were stronger, if I were more courageous

[23:31] if I were a better meditator, I could just be

[23:33] with the pain and be with the pain

[23:34] and be with the pain."

[23:36] But likely you'll get exhausted.

[23:39] So our goal is really balance,

[23:42] not like breaking through in some way

[23:46] or proving something in an over-heroic way.

[23:49] So I would say when the pain starts coming

[23:53] see if you can take an interest in it for a few minutes,

[23:56] maybe moments.

[24:00] See if you can feel the constituent elements

[24:04] like maybe it's moments of burning, moments

[24:07] or twisting, moments of this, moments of that.

[24:09] And if you feel that you are getting tighter

[24:14] in the rest of your body and you can't release that.

[24:17] If you feel that you're just kind of getting

[24:20] into that mode of like gritting your teeth

[24:23] or you're about to, it's better to move.

[24:27] It's much better to move.

[24:29] And so it's not a sign of failure,

[24:32] it really isn't. The idea is that if you move,

[24:34] if you shift posture and there's still time left

[24:37] in the amount of time you had decided to sit,

[24:41] it's a new beginning.

[24:42] It's just like when your mind wanders

[24:44] and you start over, rather than thinking,

[24:46] "well, it's just wiggle or I'll just give up

[24:48] or I'm defeated."

[24:49] You're not, it's a brand new sitting once you start again.

[24:56] - Great, and as a follow-up to that,

[25:00] we've gotten a lot

[25:00] of questions about mental pain, emotional pain, anxiety.

[25:08] Here's one question, "I suffer from PTSD

[25:11] and very bad anxiety attacks with racing brain.

[25:15] Would you suggest with the mindfulness

[25:17] that would be the best way to sit

[25:18] with it as it does get so overwhelming

[25:22] that it makes me feel like I can't cope."

[25:27] - I think in terms of tools

[25:29] it's like an experiment. We make experiments

[25:34] so we get some confidence in dealing with different tools.

[25:38] You just have to be careful

[25:39] that it doesn't become like pass/fail.

[25:43] Like maybe something helps you today

[25:46] feel more balanced in the face

[25:48] of what's happening and it's not gonna help tomorrow

[25:52] but that's okay because you just deal with different tools.

[25:56] I think a few things are important.

[25:58] One is that you relieve yourself of some kind

[26:04] of notion of an image of like a perfect meditator.

[26:09] You don't have to be sitting upright.

[26:10] There were plenty of times when I've suggested

[26:12] to people just curl up

[26:14] in a fetal position and do your practice.

[26:17] Don't have this notion of like,

[26:21] this particular posture sitting motionless,

[26:23] cross-legged maybe it's just scary to do that honestly

[26:27] Walking meditation or movement meditations

[26:30] at different times might be better.

[26:34] When I've worked with people

[26:36] who are recently out of

[26:40] like a deeply traumatic experience

[26:45] like war.

[26:47] You know, there have been times when it seemed clear

[26:50] that the best thing was not even formal sitting

[26:56] it was like, feel the cup, feel the weight of the cup,

[27:00] feel the warmth of the cup, smell the tea,

[27:03] tastes the tea. It was bringing mindfulness,

[27:06] that the same quality

[27:07] of mindfulness into activity... into life.

[27:10] And that was kinda the balancing agent.

[27:15] It might be that you make the experiment with being

[27:18] with the breath because of course it can be soothing

[27:23] and your whole system can settle down.

[27:26] They do say in science that there are many kinds

[27:33] of formal patterned ways of doing this

[27:36] but basically if your out-breath is longer

[27:39] than your in-breath

[27:40] your parasympathetic nervous system will start taking

[27:43] over from your sympathetic nervous system.

[27:46] And your blood pressure will start to go

[27:47] down, your health system kind of ease.

[27:50] And sometimes it is more formal

[27:53] like breathing for four hold for four, be there for eight

[27:55] but it actually, I'm told, doesn't matter.

[27:58] The only thing that matters is that your

[28:00] out-breath be longer than your

[28:02] in-breath and just see: is that what's working?

[28:05] I also find

[28:06] that lovingkindness meditation can be really useful

[28:10] because in a way,

[28:11] these states of panic, of anxiety, of distress,

[28:16] they're like all high-energy states.

[28:20] And with any high-energy state

[28:22] whether it's restlessness or much more extreme than that,

[28:26] we have different approaches.

[28:27] One is kind of soothe it settle it down.

[28:31] And the other is understanding

[28:33] that a big energy needs a big space within which to move.

[28:38] So if you've got like a really big energy going

[28:39] on and you're trying to have it move

[28:43] through a tight, confined, constricted space,

[28:46] it's going to be really jangly.

[28:50] Whereas, if you can just have a bigger sense of space

[28:53] the energy can actually move.

[28:56] And so some people go out and look

[28:58] at the sky or to lovingkindness practice

[29:01] for all beings everywhere,

[29:03] take in the whole world.

[29:06] And you learn different ways of creating that space

[29:08] and lovingkindness in particular also channels

[29:12] and the energy just like walking does.

[29:15] So the energy can actually start moving

[29:18] and in lovingkindness it's

[29:19] taking a very disturbing kind of energy

[29:24] and it's channeling into something that's beneficial

[29:27] for ourselves and for others.

[29:30] So there are many possibilities,

[29:31] of course if you're really struggling,

[29:34] if you're really suffering

[29:35] and ideally you see if you can find a teacher

[29:38] to work with and especially someone

[29:41] who will remind you again and again,

[29:43] because every single one of us usually needs

[29:45] to be reminded again and again,

[29:47] "you're doing okay.

[29:48] It doesn't have to look

[29:50] like that pretzel like posture.

[29:52] You don't have to sit for an hour with your eyes closed.

[29:55] There are lots and lots of ways of practicing."

[30:01] - Great, and we did also have some questions coming

[30:06] in about folks who due to different mobility limitations

[30:12] can't do walking meditation.

[30:15] Is there a substitute that you offer for that?

[30:20] Yeah, there are many substitutes.

[30:23] In a couple of things we've written,

[30:29] we have like wheeling meditation for people

[30:32] who are in wheelchairs.

[30:35] But basically the idea is just eyes open,

[30:40] rather than you may be sitting with your eyes closed

[30:43] in sitting. Eyes open and active.

[30:50] There's some schools in Burma where people raise their hand

[30:52] up and down or I'm into drinking tea,

[30:56] it's like you can get all the same benefits

[30:59] of walking meditation through some activity

[31:03] because it's just about bringing mindfulness into life

[31:08] and doing something that is likely gonna

[31:12] raise our energy, just like walking will.

[31:16] - Great, a couple of questions have come in about really

[31:22] being able to stay connected to a mindfulness practice

[31:28] or even a breath based practice when in crisis.

[31:33] And in particular, there was a question

[31:36] about a negative work environment.

[31:40] So here's the question "I wanna know what strategies

[31:43] Sharon suggests for when someone who is difficult to work

[31:47] with creates a negative work environment

[31:50] and makes comments that make one feel badly

[31:52] about themselves.

[31:54] I've been meditating

[31:55] and attending therapy for years,

[31:57] but somehow a negative manager still manages

[32:00] to disrupt my peace.

[32:01] And I haven't found how to cope

[32:03] with these comments without them effecting me."

[32:10] - I think it's interesting to note

[32:13] for any of us,

[32:16] how impactful something like that might be.

[32:20] I've done work with people, really on the front lines

[32:26] of suffering, you know, and these days

[32:30] it would likely be medical personnel.

[32:35] And sometimes we've asked people in the beginning

[32:38] of a program as we look at issues of resilience.

[32:45] Well I'll tell you the whole model.

[32:47] You can do this as a journaling exercise

[32:50] or you could do this as a reflection.

[32:52] And let's say it's generally in the first column

[32:56] we'd say write down the strong sources of stress at work.

[33:02] And sometimes it was surprising for people

[33:05] because they'd write down exactly this kind of thing

[33:07] you know the negative comments

[33:09] of a supervisor or bad relationship with colleagues,

[33:13] and wasn't even like the intractable system

[33:17] they were trying to help.

[33:19] People go through, work through, but something like that

[33:22] and just to realize these things can be quite impactful.

[33:26] And then the next column, we ask people to write

[33:28] down what they do to lift their spirits,

[33:32] to get a break, to have some resilience,

[33:34] to have perspective on things.

[33:37] And sometimes people would write down.

[33:40] "I get out in nature." I think for four years

[33:43] in this one program, every single time

[33:48] that people entered the program and did this,

[33:51] they wrote down "listen to music,"

[33:52] though it was all different kinds of music.

[33:54] And some of these people wrote down

[33:57] "I drink a lot," something like that.

[33:59] And then in the third column we asked them to look back

[34:03] at what they had just written

[34:04] down and write down how they felt about it.

[34:07] So if they wrote down "I drink a lot," very often

[34:11] they'd say, actually, "I'm a little worried about that,

[34:13] maybe I wanna find some other tools."

[34:16] Or this actually happens once,

[34:19] I'm sure more than once, but somebody had written down

[34:22] "I get out in nature" and then they wrote down

[34:26] "of course I haven't done it in about seven years."

[34:29] So you think, well, "maybe get on it!"

[34:31] And like, and obviously we live

[34:32] in a very strange time in that

[34:34] so many things are not available to us that once were.

[34:39] But to understand that we may well have coping mechanisms

[34:42] and things that have helped us with resilience

[34:45] that we may not be exercising so much right now.

[34:50] And if we can

[34:51] maybe we should really think about going back there.

[34:54] And in addition, we can learn new tools

[34:59] like mindful movement or meditation,

[35:02] things like that that may be helping.

[35:05] I'll tell you what I do in those situations

[35:10] with somebody who really has a kind of toxic energy.

[35:14] And it goes back to this cute little story

[35:17] from the time of the Buddha

[35:20] where they said that Buddha one day

[35:24] he did something like he walked on this farmer's land

[35:30] without the farmer's permission, something like that.

[35:33] So the farmer got really angry at him

[35:36] and came over to him and started yelling at him

[35:38] and screaming at him and cursing him and reviling him.

[35:43] So the Buddha said to him,

[35:45] "Oh farmer, if you prepare a gift

[35:48] for someone and they refuse to take it

[35:52] out of your hand, what happens to it?"

[35:56] So the farmer said,

[35:57] "Well, if I prepare a gift

[35:59] for someone and they refuse to take it out of my hand

[36:03] then it's gonna remain with me."

[36:06] And then the Buddha said,

[36:07] "Just so oh farmer

[36:08] I'm refusing your gift of cursing and screaming

[36:10] and reviling him and abusing. It's gonna remain with you."

[36:15] So I don't like say that to people.

[36:18] Which probably wouldn't be that skillful,

[36:20] but I think it's sometimes, I even do the imagery.

[36:23] I think "not taking it out of your hand is gonna remain

[36:27] with you" because of course, that is the truth

[36:29] that if somebody were more together,

[36:32] were happier, were more at peace

[36:35] they would not be as toxic as

[36:39] a manifestation can be.

[36:42] So the point isn't being able to change them

[36:44] it's not having it enter your heart so deeply.

[36:48] And in the end, honestly

[36:49] you do have a kind of compassion for people like that.

[36:55] - Thank you.

[37:00] There've been several questions coming

[37:02] in about grief and loss.

[37:06] "My dad passed away a couple of months back

[37:08] curious on Sharon's take on meditation to connect

[37:11] with the departed and or heal from childhood challenges."

[37:15] Another similar question.

[37:17] "Can you talk about meditation and deep grief?"

[37:22] - Well I mean I think it is a time

[37:24] of obviously really tremendous grief.

[37:30] Both, people have often lost somebody that,

[37:36] it's a very difficult time where we also don't

[37:39] have necessarily the same rituals that once

[37:43] brought us together around the time of mourning.

[37:49] There's a lot of grieving

[37:52] of the life we once thought was to be,

[37:58] and needing to reconcile to the fact that it's all changed.

[38:04] I came up here March 14th

[38:08] thinking I was coming here for two weeks,

[38:12] And I'm still here and everything I thought I was gonna do

[38:15] and accomplish and how it was gonna be

[38:16] and the people I was going to see and the friendships

[38:20] and it's not the same.

[38:21] And even like the person I mentioned who had come back

[38:25] from war in Iraq and we were working

[38:29] with, it's like had tremendously shattered ideals

[38:36] and a vision of possibility or what life was

[38:39] about what he thought his country was

[38:42] about that had just been shattered.

[38:44] And he was grieving, which took me a long time to understand

[38:48] that that's what he was actually going through.

[38:52] And certainly in this time where,

[38:57] we may not have the hope or ability to say goodbye

[39:03] in-person or something like that,

[39:06] it's a very difficult time.

[39:09] I think many things.

[39:11] So one is that in general, I've not found this culture

[39:17] and I know you're tuning in from around the world.

[39:20] So you may have a different experience where you are,

[39:24] but certainly in the States

[39:26] I've not found it a culture that largely is sympathetic

[39:31] to the truth of loss and grief.

[39:37] People will often feel there should be a time limit

[39:40] or I think in America, there's such a premium

[39:45] on being in control at all times, that it feels wrong

[39:50] that you haven't like picked up again,

[39:55] or whatever it might be, and it's not wrong.

[40:01] All these things take time and it's an unfolding.

[40:06] So I think we also have that challenge,

[40:08] many of us of going against what has been absorbed

[40:15] by us as conditioning in some way.

[40:21] Somebody wants wrote somewhere that,

[40:26] "Grief is love

[40:28] which doesn't have the normal place to land.

[40:32] The person's not there or the situation's not there

[40:37] but at the heart of it is love."

[40:38] And that was something that was very helpful

[40:40] for me to realize that

[40:42] as well as looking at the loss, I could look

[40:46] at the love and actually be grateful that that also existed.

[40:55] And that seemed important as well.

[41:01] It helps to find people, if you can,

[41:04] who understand the nature of feeling pain

[41:10] and feeling vulnerable.

[41:11] If anything,

[41:14] the vulnerability we all have to loss should be one

[41:19] of the things that brings us together.

[41:21] We should feel ever-more united

[41:23] because there is no one who is left out of that.

[41:29] And yet so much

[41:31] of society has kind of set us apart from one another.

[41:36] And so really making a point

[41:38] of finding some kind of supportive community can help.

[41:41] And then in terms of practice,

[41:43] I'll give you an answer.

[41:45] I'll give you a response

[41:46] from a very classical perspective

[41:49] of the Buddhist teaching

[41:51] which has also been very important for me.

[41:59] They believe and this is something that you can practice

[42:02] whether you're experiencing loss or not.

[42:07] They believe that when we do something toward

[42:09] the good, we're kind,

[42:12] we're generous, we're restrained.

[42:14] Like it would be awfully easy to tell a lie, but we don't.

[42:17] We meditate, even if it feels

[42:19] like we have totally crummy concentration,

[42:22] we seek to understand we question, we study,

[42:25] we want to look deeper.

[42:28] All these things are, they produce a positive energy

[42:36] and the energy, that positive energy, is called merit

[42:39] in the traditional teachings. It is probably

[42:42] an unfortunate translation,

[42:44] but nonetheless, that's what it's called.

[42:46] So it's not like stuff that's in a warehouse somewhere

[42:49] that can be traded

[42:51] but it's that moving toward the good, it's opening

[42:56] to a sense of possibility and it's the positive energy.

[42:59] So when you have done something toward the good

[43:07] it's very common to then dedicate that positive energy

[43:11] to someone else and ultimately to all beings everywhere.

[43:16] So someone has helped you as one example

[43:23] and you get to do a meditation.

[43:28] And we then realized,

[43:36] "well, I wouldn't have been able to do that

[43:38] except this person was taking over childcare or whatever."

[43:42] And so you dedicate the positive energy

[43:44] of your having meditated to this person who's helped you.

[43:48] And it's a way

[43:49] of just linking what you've been able to do

[43:52] with that being. And very classically,

[43:55] we dedicate the merit

[43:57] of our actions or positive actions to someone who's died.

[44:02] And we don't have to get

[44:05] into the ins and outs of believing in rebirth or not,

[44:07] but they do believe in a country say like Burma

[44:13] that the most powerful connection we can have

[44:16] with somebody beyond the body,

[44:18] beyond time, beyond spaces is our own good heartedness.

[44:22] And even if you think

[44:23] of it just as honoring their memory,

[44:24] or however, if this strikes you

[44:27] as something interesting to pursue

[44:29] you can use a lot of different conceptional models for it.

[44:33] But the idea is that you reaffirm your connection to that

[44:39] being through an act that's positive,

[44:42] that's good, that's helpful in some way

[44:45] and just actually offering the positive energy too.

[44:48] So like in Burma, for example

[44:50] when I went there to practice in the 80's

[44:53] we didn't pay anything to be there, not even room and board

[44:57] and everything we needed was offered to us by the people.

[45:03] And it was certainly in those days

[45:06] is one of the poorest countries in the world.

[45:08] And every meal was in offering.

[45:14] And if your daughter graduated from high school,

[45:17] you'd go to the monastery and you try to offer the best

[45:20] of what you could or on your birthday.

[45:23] You didn't think to celebrate by getting gifts

[45:26] you celebrate by giving gifts.

[45:28] So you'd go to the monastery and you offer...

[45:30] You didn't bring the food.

[45:33] You pay the money for them to cook food.

[45:38] Once we went in.... or if somebody dies in the family

[45:43] then you honor their memory by making an offering

[45:46] and then you dedicate the merit

[45:48] of that offering to their memory, to them.

[45:51] So once we went in at lunch,

[45:54] which is like 10 in the morning,

[45:56] it's like the last meal you get for the whole day

[45:59] because of these monastic rules.

[46:03] It's usually a pretty formal thing.

[46:05] You have a processional

[46:07] as you go into the hall,

[46:08] the dining room, and then you bow

[46:09] down to the Buddha and then you sit, you're sitting

[46:11] on the floor around these tables,

[46:15] which have maybe four of you sitting around each table.

[46:19] So went in like bowed to the Buddha.

[46:21] And I sat down

[46:22] and I took a look at the meal that was served

[46:25] family style and all these pans and stuff.

[46:31] I looked down

[46:32] and I thought "that looks like chicken soup."

[46:36] And I thought "that looks like white fish salad.

[46:38] This is like an entire Jewish meal.

[46:40] I'm like hallucinating.

[46:41] This is really weird.

[46:42] Something's going really often my meditation."

[46:44] And then the when they did the sharing of the merit ceremony

[46:49] it turned out that there's a very tiny Jewish population

[46:53] in Rangoon and somebody had died.

[46:55] And so the family had gone

[46:57] to the monastery and not only did they offer the money,

[46:59] they offered the recipes for that meal.

[47:03] And sure enough, it was like an entire Jewish meal.

[47:06] But there's something about your goodheartedness

[47:08] and your efforts to make this a better world

[47:12] or help someone out

[47:13] or learn yourself that is considered the most

[47:17] powerful way to stay really connected with somebody.

[47:24] - Thank you.

[47:26] Here's a question about meditation for children.

[47:33] "The lives and routines

[47:34] of children have been profoundly disrupted by the pandemic.

[47:38] What do you think about meditation for children?"

[47:43] - They have been really profoundly disrupted.

[47:47] I see that just from

[47:49] reading chats and these various Zoom sessions

[47:55] I think meditation for children is great.

[47:58] And there are many, many ways of doing it.

[48:02] I just did an interview for this project

[48:10] I'm involved in with these friends

[48:12] of mine that I teach with periodically.

[48:17] They have this organization called the Holistic

[48:19] Life Foundation in Baltimore, where they teach yoga

[48:23] and meditation to kids in the inner city schools.

[48:29] And they have amazing results

[48:33] that they have like... many schools have started these

[48:40] Mindful Minute rooms where everything is kind of soothing

[48:45] and there's nice music and you get tea

[48:47] and there are people sitting there

[48:49] and they help you just remember to breathe

[48:52] and kids are going there instead of detention.

[48:55] And it's working really well.

[48:58] And they have, if you look up the Holistic Life Foundation

[49:02] they had a video of it that really went viral.

[49:05] We say my thing went viral when we have like 58 retweets

[49:10] or something but they had like millions and millions.

[49:15] So there would be an example.

[49:17] There's many books these days on meditation for children

[49:26] often different mindfulness exercises.

[49:29] And then they're all need to be developmentally appropriate

[49:33] in terms of the age of the child.

[49:34] And very young kids.

[49:36] They tend to have kids lie down on the form

[49:39] put a stuffed animal on their belly

[49:41] and they watch the money or something go up and down.

[49:44] And that's the beginning.

[49:46] I've taught meditation

[49:47] to children just a little bit myself and what I found,

[49:53] and you could say that it's not

[49:57] because I teach so much lovingkindness meditation

[50:00] maybe it's under fair test,

[50:01] but I have found

[50:03] that many children resonate very strongly with that.

[50:08] Even if they don't get that moved

[50:11] by the mindfulness practice where you actually

[50:13] offer lovingkindness

[50:15] through the silent repetition of certain phrases

[50:18] like "may feel safe, may be happy" and again

[50:22] I just try to make it developmentally appropriate,

[50:27] think of a someone you really like

[50:28] or maybe a teacher that you like.

[50:31] And I remember saying once

[50:33] think of a friend you usually liked

[50:35] but now you're mad at them to get some

[50:38] of that in, or you play in various ways.

[50:41] But I think it can be hugely helpful in just seeing,

[50:47] the kids that my friends in Baltimore work

[50:50] with have been traumatized for a long time.

[50:54] And in a couple of my books

[50:56] I tell this story about this little girl they told me

[50:59] about, because I liked it so much, where she she's maybe

[51:05] seven years old and she was always in fights.

[51:09] The kids were teasing her a lot

[51:11] and they were mean to her for sure.

[51:13] But she would be like knocking them out,

[51:16] and then she would get into really big trouble

[51:18] and they taught her how to meditate.

[51:21] And one day they walked into some public room

[51:27] like the gymnasium or cafeteria or something.

[51:30] And she had this other little girl up against the wall

[51:33] holding her by the throat.

[51:35] And then she looked at her and she said,

[51:37] "You're just lucky.

[51:38] I learned how to meditate."

[51:39] And she dropped her and then she went off

[51:42] into the corner and just like composed herself,

[51:45] So there's a lot there that I think could be really helpful.

[51:54] - That's such a good story.

[51:57] Here's another question, "I live in a very small space

[52:01] which I share with family members.

[52:03] There's not one corner that can be set aside

[52:05] for my quiet use for meditation.

[52:08] So I meditate in the midst

[52:09] of sometimes a lot of noise and distractions.

[52:13] Do you have any tips for me?"

[52:17] - Yeah, to some extent again

[52:22] there's sort of like the division into two parts.

[52:25] One is the formal 12 minutes or whatever of meditation.

[52:32] And then is what we call "short moments many times."

[52:35] It is feeling the warmth of the tea cup.

[52:38] In terms of short moments many times,

[52:42] maybe the most famous example is Thich Nhat Hanh,

[52:47] a Vietnamese Zen teacher saying

[52:49] "Don't pick up your phone on the first ring,

[52:52] let it ring three times and breathe.

[52:55] And then you pick it up."

[52:56] Or what I've gotten into the habit

[52:59] of doing is not pressing send on the email right away

[53:03] but taking a few breaths and then reading it again

[53:06] and then deciding if I want to edit it in some way.

[53:08] And it's just bringing the practice into life.

[53:11] And so you don't need quiet for that.

[53:14] In fact, you need the phone ringing or

[53:16] you need the signal you have decided on

[53:19] that's gonna be the time for you to like take a pause

[53:24] or take a breathe or bring mindfulness into movement,

[53:28] something like that. In terms of the

[53:30] formal dedicated period

[53:34] I don't know if you can even close your eyes,

[53:39] if that is gonna like, just be too weird.

[53:41] But if you can, there are lots of times where

[53:46] we have to incorporate the sound that is around us.

[53:49] We just have to, because otherwise we are full

[53:53] of resentment and we resisted

[53:55] and the rest of her body tightens up,

[53:57] and we're trying to make it go away.

[53:59] And it doesn't work.

[54:02] I often laugh because I did my earliest earliest practice

[54:05] in India, which is phenomenally noisy.

[54:09] And then in the 80's

[54:10] I went often to practice in Burma, which was also noisy.

[54:15] and then the 90's

[54:21] I was often in Nepal, which was also exceedingly noisy.

[54:24] And people have this image of some idyllic, little heaven,

[54:29] totally tranquil and permanent in particular was outrageous.

[54:34] Like it's a very good hearted place in a lot of ways.

[54:40] And they do a lot of social service that the retreat centers

[54:45] and the monasteries and, or they did.

[54:49] And so the women were

[54:55] in some dorm building and just outside, they were building.

[55:01] They were doing construction

[55:03] for like widows who had nowhere else to go,

[55:07] no one else

[55:08] no family to take care of them, whatever.

[55:09] So it was a totally noble thing

[55:12] but it was like construction right outside your door,

[55:15] it was like maddening. You know you go all the way there and

[55:18] it's like a schlep and you have to you need typhoid....

[55:23] and it's just like,

[55:24] it's like a trip. And then you're there

[55:26] and it's like so noisy all the time.

[55:30] I was doing walking meditation once

[55:32] on the veranda, sort of outside our rooms.

[55:37] And one of my friends in the room next door,

[55:41] I watched her hurl open the door,

[55:45] come marching out with this big can

[55:48] of like a powdered milk or something like that.

[55:53] And she reached her arm back like this.

[55:56] She was gonna hurl it

[55:57] as the people doing the construction.

[55:58] It's like, she just had it, she couldn't handle it all.

[56:02] And I just reached my hand out and grabbed hers.

[56:07] And said "don't do that."

[56:09] Like, "don't do that."

[56:10] But it's either like too freaky

[56:13] and you're always annoyed or you say,

[56:14] "Okay I'm gonna incorporate the sound."

[56:18] And as I'd said, in writing to somebody

[56:23] with written question for this Challenge,

[56:29] unless you're responsible for responding to the sound,

[56:34] which might be the case, then we practice with it.

[56:38] And you know, you can honor all your feelings

[56:43] that you hate what's going on, or it's annoying

[56:45] or it's interesting, or it's amusing or whatever,

[56:49] but you can incorporate those as well

[56:54] into the meditation itself.

[56:59] - Thank you.

[57:01] So we have a lot more questions

[57:05] that we're going to have time to get to.

[57:07] And I just want to tell folks

[57:09] that some of these I think we'll carry

[57:13] over into our next Q&A session.

[57:16] And some of them Sharon will just be able

[57:19] to answer privately by emailing you.

[57:23] So we'll definitely get to all

[57:25] of these that we don't have time for.

[57:29] I thought before we close today

[57:34] there's a question about cultivating compassion from Kim.

[57:42] "The moment I noticed the mind wanders

[57:45] I snatched my attention back to the breath.

[57:48] How could I be more gentle, less harsh?"

[57:54] - I think right there,

[57:56] maybe that intensity will arise like "dammit get back."

[58:04] But right there, you can say something to yourself

[58:07] which is just a reminder,

[58:09] not to put yourself down for that reaction.

[58:12] It's just a habit that we all have.

[58:17] But more... it's very personal.

[58:20] You have to see what works for you, but people say things

[58:23] like "it's okay," or "now I can start again"

[58:28] or an image that one of my teachers used was "Exercising

[58:34] The Letting-Go Muscle," which I liked a lot.

[58:37] And so sometimes I would say that it's like,

[58:38] "Okay now I'm gonna exercise letting go muscle."

[58:41] And you practice just like letting go

[58:43] which is during the knurling something across the room.

[58:46] It's just like, "Oh, let it go."

[58:48] Or some people teach like,

[58:54] "Oh now I can be grateful.

[58:55] I have the chance to start again."

[58:57] They congratulate themselves,

[58:58] like this is a wonderful moment.

[59:00] That's not exactly my thing.

[59:01] As I often say, "I am a New Yorker."

[59:04] That would be a little far for me.

[59:07] Like, "wow, I'm so glad." when I'm not really glad.

[59:11] But there's something about that

[59:14] and if that works for you, that's wonderful.

[59:16] But there's something about realizing you haven't failed

[59:21] with your mind wandering, that it's okay,

[59:24] that I think is very important.

[59:27] And for me it could be as simple as

[59:30] "oop, start again."

[59:32] - And can you talk a little about like what one can expect

[59:38] as they keep practicing?

[59:41] Like, will those kind of mental habits fade?

[59:42] Do they disappear all at once?

[59:44] What's that like

[59:45] for you after so many years of meditation?

[59:48] - Well nothing disappears all at once,

[59:49] so you don't have to think about that.

[59:52] Yeah, they do fade, for sure.

[59:58] But the fact that they don't disappear all at once shouldn't

[1:00:02] (or disappear at all maybe) shouldn't lead

[1:00:06] to discouragement because I think we get more confident

[1:00:10] and more empowered in our ability to deal

[1:00:14] with what's coming up. So that,

[1:00:17] a certain kind of feeling or thought comes up again

[1:00:21] and you realize I don't have to take that to heart.

[1:00:25] I don't have to believe that utterly.

[1:00:27] I don't have to let that take me on a journey.

[1:00:30] Like "next year will be exactly like this."

[1:00:34] Or as I say to myself, "you don't have to rehearse that.

[1:00:39] Why are you rehearsing that, that catastrophic outcome?"

[1:00:43] So there's much more space when something comes up.

[1:00:47] These habits also tend to come up both less frequently

[1:00:52] but also less solidly in a way,

[1:00:57] like what used to come up like an iron bar is

[1:01:00] more like a piece of gauze or something.

[1:01:05] It's like it comes up, but it's all right.

[1:01:10] But people do tend to be discouraging,

[1:01:12] "I can't believe it I've been meditating.

[1:01:14] And same old thing gets me all reactive

[1:01:17] and same stupid thing gets me all reactive."

[1:01:20] And what very few people realize is that,

[1:01:23] if we used to get completely enveloped and overcome

[1:01:26] by something for an hour, and it's now three minutes

[1:01:30] that's a big change in the quality of our lives.

[1:01:32] It's usually a pretty painful three minutes,

[1:01:35] so very few people look back and say,

[1:01:37] "Oh, it used to be a lot longer."

[1:01:40] But that's exactly how it happens

[1:01:42] is that it still may come up,

[1:01:44] we still may get caught.

[1:01:46] We are not likely to get caught for as long.

[1:01:48] And if we are now and then

[1:01:51] it's not gonna be always by any means.

[1:01:55] - And here's a follow-up, that's kinda in that same realm:

[1:02:01] "any tips for the nature that resists anything

[1:02:05] that I decide I want to do to make me feel better?"

[1:02:11] - Here too, there are a bunch of different approaches.

[1:02:14] One is I'm laughing because of course it's very common.

[1:02:19] One is learn something about the resistor.

[1:02:25] It's like by hanging out

[1:02:27] with these different things, these different thoughts,

[1:02:28] these different emotions, these different patterns,

[1:02:33] we get the chance to see nuance

[1:02:36] and see subtlety and see different factors.

[1:02:42] Like um

[1:02:46] sometimes resistance

[1:02:50] is kind of a rebellious nature that's good!

[1:02:55] and then you have to decide

[1:02:59] "what do I actually want to do?"

[1:03:02] Not that super imposed upon me

[1:03:04] by some system or something like that.

[1:03:06] Sometimes the resistance is more about fear.

[1:03:10] It's feeling I can't do anything really well.

[1:03:15] Sometimes it's cynicism,

[1:03:18] which is just a habit that instead of like diving

[1:03:23] into something to see for myself if it's worth doing,

[1:03:27] I'll just assume it's not worth doing!

[1:03:32] But in all cases

[1:03:33] I think we have to be realistic in our resolves.

[1:03:36] And again, for me, structure's really helpful.

[1:03:40] And I do better not having

[1:03:46] like an open-ended commitment thinking,

[1:03:49] "I'm gonna practice every day for 10 minutes for a month

[1:03:53] or five minutes for a week," whatever it is,

[1:03:57] and then... cause then I'll just really do it.

[1:04:02] And remember that it's helpful,

[1:04:06] it's important to assess, to evaluate

[1:04:09] to decide if you want to continue on with something.

[1:04:13] But you don't want to be evaluating every moment.

[1:04:16] 'Cause then you're never actually doing the thing.

[1:04:19] You've stepped out of it

[1:04:20] in order to figure it out in some way or dismiss it.

[1:04:24] And then we'd say in meditation

[1:04:27] and this is very important, that if you're gonna evaluate

[1:04:30] you have to look at your life,

[1:04:31] not at that 12 minute period

[1:04:34] where you meditate. I say 12 minutes cause

[1:04:35] of my neuroscientist friend said

[1:04:37] that's what her lab found will change your brain.

[1:04:40] So another friend who's a neuroscientist

[1:04:43] tell me seven to nine minutes.

[1:04:45] But when I told her that she said, "No, we found 12."

[1:04:49] So it's like, nobody knows exactly.

[1:04:51] And it's not like a particular number

[1:04:53] but it gives you a hint

[1:04:55] that nobody's saying you have to this 18 hours a day

[1:04:58] in order to get demonstrable brain changes.

[1:05:01] So anyway, so like you may say

[1:05:07] "I still get sleepy or I still have anxiety come

[1:05:10] up in those 12 minutes" or whatever

[1:05:12] but you might be really different with your family

[1:05:15] or how you speak to yourself when you've made a mistake

[1:05:19] and that's where it counts actually.

[1:05:24] - Thank you.

[1:05:25] So I think I'll close the question asking

[1:05:32] for the time being, but I did just want to let

[1:05:34] people know that we're going to make the recording available

[1:05:38] of this Zoom inside Teachable.

[1:05:41] So you'll all receive email instructions

[1:05:45] about how you can access it

[1:05:47] and both audio and video and a transcript of it as well.

[1:05:54] And we have another Q&A session

[1:05:59] that is happening in a few weeks time.

[1:06:03] So for those of you who maybe haven't noticed

[1:06:06] there are also comments in all of the lessons.

[1:06:09] So that's a great place to ask Sharon questions

[1:06:14] or just share your experience

[1:06:16] and I'll give it back to Sharon to finish for us.

[1:06:21] - Thank you so much.

[1:06:23] 'Cause we've gone a little over, maybe we won't

[1:06:26] do a final practice together, but if you can

[1:06:29] it would be a great thing to do

[1:06:31] and I really appreciate you so much for being part

[1:06:36] of this experience.

[1:06:38] And I will try to respond and there's certain practical

[1:06:41] questions that have come in and we'll certainly try

[1:06:45] to respond.

[1:06:48] So I will just say for the person who has not

[1:06:50] started the challenge yet,

[1:06:53] should they start with day one

[1:06:54] or start tonight and day eight? and I say,

[1:06:57] start with day one

[1:06:58] and really enjoy it.

[1:07:01] 'Cause it's this wonderful experiment.

[1:07:03] It's a great gift to give to oneself.

[1:07:05] Thank you.

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Rather than forcing calm through breath work alone, try shifting attention directly to where anxiety lives in your body—tightness, restlessness, or contraction. Be willing to observe these sensations without demanding they disappear. You can also shorten your practice, try walking meditation, or lie down; the goal is finding a form that doesn't amplify anxiety but creates space to observe what's present.
Daily practice, even briefly, typically builds stronger consistency than sporadic longer sessions. The mind's tendency is to negotiate and defer when practice is optional; a fixed daily commitment removes that negotiation. Structure creates support for habit formation.
Yes, and meditation can deepen during grief because there is less pretense. Rather than traditional sitting, you might try loving-kindness practice, awareness during gentle movement, or micro-practices like focusing on sensation and connection. The practice is about bearing witness and gradually discovering the mind has room for both sorrow and other experiences.
Experiment with variations: eyes open, walking instead of sitting, attention on body sensation or sound instead of breath. Resistance itself is valuable data about your mind and body. The goal is finding a doorway into awareness that doesn't trigger shutdown, not forcing a particular form.
Short moments of practice, repeated consistently throughout the day, often transform the mind more reliably than rare extended sits. The nervous system learns through accumulated, repeated moments of arrival and remembrance. A few conscious breaths while waiting for coffee count as real practice.
Do not weaponize the lapse or assume the habit is destroyed. Simply notice you've been away and return without judgment. The instruction is: let go and begin again. Consistency is built through repeated returns, not through never missing.
Community, whether through a formal challenge or sitting group, reinforces that you are part of a larger movement and provides witness and motivation when personal drive flags. Shared commitment normalizes struggle and sustains effort beyond solitary practice.

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