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[0:15] hello my delicious go creators lelu here
[0:17] I'm in Bali amazing beautiful worm Sunny
[0:21] Bali at the Bali uh Spirit Festival here
[0:25] happening end of March beginning of
[0:27] April this is recorded actually the 1st
[0:29] of April and it's going to go all around
[0:31] YouTube I'm sure because of your energy
[0:34] and the wisdom we're going to share in
[0:36] this video suzan it was great to see you
[0:38] performing on the first night and I
[0:41] really look forward discovering your you
[0:43] know what what you went through to be at
[0:46] this this place in your life where you
[0:48] can share the sacred and you can invoke
[0:50] the sacred I'm particularly interested
[0:52] to talk about that topic you know how
[0:53] can we invoke the sacred in our life and
[0:57] um I guess you haven't always been there
[1:00] it's not an easy it's not how how do you
[1:02] get actually to this point where you can
[1:04] and authorize yourself and give yourself
[1:06] permission even to invoke the sacred
[1:10] yeah well it's a great question actually
[1:12] um because I believe that in this moment
[1:14] in time it's important for all of us to
[1:17] um be our own Spiritual Authority and I
[1:21] mean that in the best sense of the word
[1:22] not dissing what has gone before but
[1:25] really um taking a look at the global
[1:28] culture right now because the global
[1:29] culture right now is rising up with a
[1:32] certain Spirit of Awakening that's non-
[1:34] denominational it's not attached to one
[1:36] particular tradition it's actually a
[1:38] global culture and by that I mean Global
[1:40] spiritual culture and we're at this
[1:43] precipice point on the Earth right now
[1:46] you know things uh things are heating up
[1:48] shaking literally and um and so it's
[1:52] important for us to understand that
[1:54] there H has been so much that's come
[1:56] before that is so valuable to us and
[1:58] we're so privileged to have access to it
[2:00] and yet at this moment in time um it's
[2:03] up to us to help create a global culture
[2:06] a global economic culture a global
[2:08] political culture a global artistic
[2:10] culture a global spiritual culture and
[2:13] um luckily that's happening and so I
[2:16] believe that it is it is time for us to
[2:19] really um embibe drink up what has come
[2:22] before and integrate it into the now and
[2:25] evolve it forward and so um that's the
[2:28] way I'm thinking about it at this point
[2:30] I have a long history of studying
[2:32] different Traditions but but not
[2:34] affiliating with anyone and I think
[2:36] that's helpful because it helps me kind
[2:37] of extract hopefully what works from um
[2:41] various different rituals and ceremonies
[2:42] with full respect I don't mean to to be
[2:45] appropriating anyone's um depth but
[2:47] certainly like extracting um Universal
[2:51] truths and then hopefully offering them
[2:53] forward as gifts to what evolves and
[2:56] comes from the Next Generation yeah I I
[2:59] I saw that part of your titles I mean if
[3:02] there's such a thing is Priestess and
[3:04] and and you know there's so many labels
[3:06] out there like some are shamans avatars
[3:09] Priestess goddess you know how how are
[3:12] we why are you called the Priestess and
[3:15] are we all Priestess actually or
[3:17] goddesses or is it something specific
[3:18] because there's also Mystic I mean we're
[3:20] you know I'm wondering about that
[3:22] another great question I would never
[3:23] call myself a shaman nor would I ever
[3:25] call myself a goddess um oh you are come
[3:27] on we are but I would you are too um
[3:30] I I think labels are really interesting
[3:32] and part of the reason I call myself a
[3:33] priestess is because I am actually
[3:34] trained in ritual arts and I've worked
[3:37] with um a couple of very strong
[3:39] traditions in ritual arts for 30 years
[3:42] so I'm actually an elder in one of my
[3:44] traditions and and train people in that
[3:46] so um for lack of a better term I'm
[3:50] interested in especially women the
[3:52] divine feminine rising up and women
[3:54] stepping into positions of spiritual
[3:56] leadership there is no great word for
[3:58] that Priestess is very limiting um and
[4:01] yet it's the only one I found that
[4:03] actually sort of says it um I'm just
[4:06] dedicated to creating ritual and and and
[4:08] trained in creating public ritual for
[4:10] large groups of people and so you know
[4:12] when people ask me what do you do and I
[4:13] say
[4:14] okay the best way I can describe what I
[4:17] do is to my job is to remind us that
[4:19] we're hardwired for self-expression in
[4:22] community and that we have in many
[4:24] cultures civilized ourselves away from
[4:26] self-expression so that's part of what I
[4:28] teach is I teach people to find their
[4:29] voice and speak their truth and live
[4:31] their truth and be unafraid normalizing
[4:33] self-expression because it's inherent in
[4:35] our DNA but to do that in community
[4:38] changes everything like not just in the
[4:40] privacy of my own home but actually to
[4:42] come together as community and learn how
[4:44] to um re sacralize through our voices
[4:47] through our bodies through movement
[4:48] through sound through ritual through the
[4:50] sacred container and that's what I try
[4:51] and do and again I'm not I'm not only
[4:53] coming from one tradition I'm trying to
[4:56] um include many Traditions with respect
[4:58] as I said with respect and and I talked
[5:00] about this at the concert like if we are
[5:03] going to become that Global culture if
[5:04] we are going to borrow from from deep
[5:06] and ancient Traditions there's this idea
[5:08] of reciprocity any any culture that we
[5:11] that we incorporate into our daily lives
[5:13] we also must as sacred activists give
[5:16] back and I think that's a really the
[5:17] reciprocity piece is important because
[5:19] in this new age culture there's a lot of
[5:21] appropriation there's a lot of stuff
[5:23] that it that that doesn't necessarily go
[5:26] deep and is just kind of taking without
[5:28] giving back and that's one of the things
[5:30] about Bal Spirit Festival that's so
[5:31] wonderful is they're deeply entrenched
[5:32] in the community they're offering um
[5:35] service projects um and they're they're
[5:38] they're sort of being they're they're
[5:40] being a part of the the um
[5:43] sustainability of the local culture and
[5:45] that is a crucial piece as far as I'm
[5:47] concerned yeah yeah is there is there is
[5:50] there like
[5:51] specific mantras or prayers or things
[5:55] that we can do in our daily life to kind
[5:57] of invoke that sacred that you would
[5:59] recommend that we can iiz ourselves to
[6:01] do instead of giving kind of this power
[6:03] away like it feels to me like this is
[6:04] time as you said to embody that now yeah
[6:08] um you know again I'm not I'm not I
[6:10] wouldn't I would hesitate to say say
[6:12] this Mantra um that's not really what I
[6:15] do what I will say though is especially
[6:17] for anyone out there who feels like
[6:19] they're they're they're they're they're
[6:21] yearning for connection they're yearning
[6:23] for the sacred to begin to a notice it
[6:26] everywhere and B give voice to it like
[6:28] like giving voice to the sacred and
[6:30] trusting our own language trusting you
[6:32] know one of the things I I try and do
[6:34] even though I sing in Sanskrit sometimes
[6:36] is I'm trying to also remind those of us
[6:38] who speak English like this is a sacred
[6:40] language too how can we bring the sacred
[6:42] back into our languaging how can we use
[6:45] um the the words that we love to invoke
[6:48] right so so there's this great saying
[6:50] language creates the world it describes
[6:54] so when we speak certain languages and I
[6:55] know you're multilingual it we describe
[6:58] a very different world so can we begin
[7:00] to let the the Beauty and the grace of
[7:02] the world move through us and become
[7:04] spoken by us and then when we speak that
[7:06] beauty and Grace then we are invokers of
[7:09] the Sacred we're literally calling it
[7:10] forth
[7:12] yes to do that we have to switch off the
[7:14] mental the the the the this chatter how
[7:17] to go to this place where actually just
[7:19] comes out it pours out of our mouth like
[7:21] what I've heard when you you know you're
[7:23] singing well singing is key you know um
[7:26] for me just not singing words
[7:28] necessarily but starting with Rhythm and
[7:30] pulse and and and allowing sounds to
[7:32] move out like if you took my yoga class
[7:34] for instance people are just ha they're
[7:37] making sounds and and they're just
[7:39] exploring their own voice because to me
[7:42] the the the human body is a is a
[7:44] profound instrument and we have to get
[7:46] used to hearing it and practicing with
[7:48] it and and then singing and then once we
[7:51] allow ourselves to to to reclaim our
[7:53] voice as artists as singers right not
[7:55] just the professionals but all of us the
[7:58] inherent capacity have the inherent
[8:00] yearning we have to sing to express once
[8:03] we let ourselves do that incredible
[8:05] beauty happens and you're right we don't
[8:07] even have to think about it the monkey
[8:08] mind shuts down and and again as we do
[8:10] this in community um there's this
[8:13] there's this lovely small part of the
[8:14] brain that tells us we're separate from
[8:15] each other but when we go into rhythmic
[8:17] entrainment when we go into um what's
[8:19] called sympathetic resonance literally
[8:21] we're we're um syncing up our
[8:23] frequencies and I don't mean that in the
[8:25] in a Airy fairy way I mean that
[8:27] scientifically we could measure that our
[8:29] frequencies begin to find consonants and
[8:31] the very small part of our brain that
[8:32] tells us we're separate measurably goes
[8:34] to sleep so when we sing and dance and
[8:37] move together in community there is a
[8:41] the monkey mind gets an opportunity to
[8:42] shut down and B there's an amplification
[8:45] of the frequency literally and it's
[8:48] measurable do you feel at times you're
[8:50] receiving downloads and your DNA is
[8:53] being upgraded that there's like light
[8:55] more light coming in or what is your
[8:57] feeling of being alive right now on
[8:59] Earth when you open up all those
[9:02] channels uh yeah I mean I guess for me
[9:05] it's uh that's an interesting question I
[9:08] have no idea what's happening with my
[9:09] DNA but I absolutely can say that um I
[9:13] am available for um something greater
[9:17] than myself I'll just say you know and
[9:19] and and I'm guessing when I sing or
[9:21] teach like there's a part of me that's
[9:22] that's fully there there's the unique
[9:25] Suzanne Sterling whatever I've gone
[9:28] through which has been an incredibly
[9:29] challenging but beautiful life all that
[9:32] is mixed in there with hopefully um some
[9:35] greater mystery that is also moving
[9:37] through me and on the great on the in
[9:38] the Great Moments that's the case for
[9:40] sure and I'm just opening myself to it
[9:43] and making sure that I create the right
[9:45] environment for that to happen not just
[9:46] for me but for everyone who's involved
[9:48] in the situation too and and you know I
[9:50] will be honest with you before shows
[9:52] I'll go in and I will actually ground
[9:55] the whole space I will actually try and
[9:56] send Roots down to really deeply connect
[9:58] with the Earth before the show the other
[9:59] night cuz I'm in a place where there's
[10:01] incredible Spirits everywhere I asked
[10:03] permission I was like ancestors of this
[10:05] land may I may I sing these devotional
[10:07] songs here may I invoke you in these
[10:09] prayers um I'm not just going in and
[10:11] being like I'm going to impose my will
[10:12] on this culture and that's the thing
[10:14] I've learned from traveling around the
[10:16] world is when we try and impose
[10:18] ourselves on other cultures it it
[10:20] doesn't work we get smacked right but
[10:22] when we go into other spiritual cultures
[10:25] and we attune ourselves hopefully really
[10:28] well to what's happening not only the
[10:30] human culture but the spiritual culture
[10:31] then we humbly say may I be here may I
[10:35] be in worship here may I um offer my
[10:38] prayers here and and that for me has
[10:41] worked much better in places where the
[10:43] magic is really strong literally you
[10:45] know in places like Bal how do you feel
[10:47] about it and there's all those rituals
[10:49] every day that we see people give and
[10:51] there's a love and there's there seems
[10:53] to be quite a lot of spirit and it's
[10:55] important to have their approval kind of
[10:57] they have quite a loud voice around here
[10:59] these B beings they do and you know I
[11:01] was here many many many years ago 25 or
[11:04] so and and I came here to specifically
[11:06] feel that um almost visceral sense of
[11:09] the spiritual um I felt it in a couple
[11:11] other places in the world India was
[11:13] strong in some places Haiti is very
[11:15] strong spiritual underpinning and um and
[11:19] yeah they're here and they're they're
[11:21] unlike westerners ideas of of Spiritual
[11:24] Beings and again like that's where we go
[11:26] and be like we humbly say okay I don't
[11:28] understand this I'd like to learn I'd
[11:29] like to learn how this works I'd like to
[11:31] learn the belief system I'd like to
[11:32] learn the energies and then I can really
[11:34] begin to um to to sing with them and to
[11:39] to uh perhaps have have a deeper
[11:42] permission to be here and to do this
[11:43] work of of bringing people together
[11:46] that's interesting when you say sing
[11:47] with them I love that so you feel their
[11:49] presence you feel the how how is it all
[11:51] around is it up underneath is it
[11:54] everywhere to me it's everywhere and and
[11:56] again there are different energies right
[11:57] there's there's beings of the underworld
[11:59] there's beings of nature there's being
[12:01] there's Sky beings um uh and and and the
[12:05] balones work in concert with them very
[12:07] strongly very very strongly like they're
[12:09] they're in they're in deep conversation
[12:10] on a daily basis and I because I don't
[12:12] know that I'm not going to try and all
[12:14] of a sudden Worship in that same way but
[12:16] I'm going to be ATT tuned to the fact
[12:17] that I don't know what's happening and
[12:19] I'm going to be ATT tuned to the fact
[12:21] that there are maybe people I can be in
[12:22] conversation with about that are you
[12:24] ever scared of Darker energies or lower
[12:27] energies um how do you deal with that
[12:30] you know again I've had some experiences
[12:32] in the world where um I went into
[12:34] cultures and kind of went to sleep or
[12:36] didn't pay attention to what was told
[12:39] and um and I I do think that
[12:42] um again when we're in other cultures
[12:45] things can happen that are beyond our
[12:46] rational capacity to understand
[12:48] especially westerners who like the
[12:49] scientific Viewpoint it's really
[12:51] challenging for us to be like wow
[12:53] there's something out there and I don't
[12:54] know what it is I've experienced that
[12:56] and so I'm very um careful uh but at the
[12:59] same time also kind of like you know I'm
[13:01] not I don't feel like some entity is
[13:02] going to come and take over my body
[13:04] right I I feel I feel like I have done
[13:06] enough work to to to be to to fill my
[13:09] own skin so to speak right there's no
[13:11] space for anyone else to come in and
[13:13] that's great um but feel happen yeah I
[13:16] think it could happen sure yeah is is
[13:19] there things is there a practice or
[13:21] something that you do in those moment or
[13:22] when you feel negative you know and I'm
[13:24] I'm sure you had moments of depression
[13:26] of very difficult times how did you
[13:28] overcome that to be the light woman that
[13:30] you are now a lot of
[13:33] help you know I mean for me in my
[13:35] darkest moments I I I'm not I'm not
[13:38] ashamed to say it you know I had a
[13:40] somewhat challenging childhood and and
[13:42] part of the reason why I feel so um
[13:44] passionate about helping people find
[13:45] their voice and live their truth and and
[13:48] and step into the sacred is because um I
[13:51] felt like that was missing in my own
[13:52] life um and so I've worked really hard
[13:55] to to to keep myself awake and not
[13:59] spiral into depression but I do
[14:01] sometimes like we all do I mean living
[14:03] on the planet today there's no way we
[14:04] can't be affected by the incredible
[14:06] amounts of slavery and oppression and
[14:08] I've been because of part of what I do
[14:10] also as an activist I've gone to some of
[14:12] the really
[14:13] biggest I've seen a lot of suffering
[14:15] I'll just put it that way I've seen a
[14:17] lot of suffering I've been with sex
[14:18] trafficking victims I've been with um uh
[14:22] people who have have you know nothing
[14:24] and and are and are just trying to find
[14:26] their next meal and so I'm very aware of
[14:29] the fact that there is a lot of
[14:30] suffering and sometimes I tap into it
[14:32] and sometimes it feels overwhelming
[14:34] sometimes I'm like I have no idea
[14:35] whether what I'm doing is making any
[14:36] difference at all and yet I keep going
[14:40] back to that I'm I'm here to serve I'm
[14:42] here to serve and and when in my darkest
[14:44] moments I make that phone call like I
[14:46] pick up the phone and I'm like I call
[14:48] good friends I call my coaches you know
[14:51] I don't do it alone that's for sure I do
[14:54] not do what I do alone and I'm so
[14:55] grateful that I have I mean it's a
[14:57] privilege to be able to do healing
[14:59] transformation work it's a privilege to
[15:00] be here at a festival it's a privilege
[15:02] to to um to have access to all of the
[15:05] spiritual psychological healing
[15:07] modalities that we do like my parents
[15:09] generation they didn't have they didn't
[15:11] have alcoholic synonymous they didn't
[15:12] have like there were some things that
[15:14] would have been great they didn't have
[15:16] them and and so we have such incredible
[15:19] access to these tools and so I am you
[15:21] know I always start every conversation
[15:23] with with people who want to serve the
[15:24] world I'm like let's start with with how
[15:27] absolutely privileged we are to be able
[15:29] to do this and then can we begin to
[15:31] offer it out to others who perhaps don't
[15:33] have access to it that's that to me um
[15:36] shifts all of my self-pity and the and
[15:38] the depression and the insanity of my
[15:41] mind going why am I here what am I doing
[15:43] and then I I drop in like okay I know
[15:45] there's a few things I'm here to do one
[15:46] of them is sing another one is create
[15:48] ritual another one is just serve you
[15:50] know serve the suffering that's I I'm
[15:52] dedicated to that that's why I came
[15:55] you've created many albums and many
[15:57] award-winning albums where you at right
[15:59] now with your music and how is it
[16:01] evolving what are you up to um I have
[16:05] done a lot of yoga music in the last
[16:07] like 10 years and uh I'm just starting a
[16:10] dance album because I used to do
[16:11] electronic dance music with a sort of
[16:13] like a spiritual bent to it and so I'm
[16:15] just about to make a new album and I'm
[16:17] feeling into what that what I want that
[16:19] to be and finding the right producers to
[16:21] do that with me and so I'm kind of
[16:23] daunted and excited about it at the same
[16:25] time yeah yeah all open to great things
[16:28] to happen who knows what will happen who
[16:30] knows what will come and um you know
[16:32] lots of I'm still continuing to travel I
[16:34] do lots of festivals like this all over
[16:36] the world and get to I've watched this
[16:38] this Festival culture evolve over the
[16:40] last 25 years it's been fascinating cuz
[16:43] when you know when I started You' been
[16:44] evolved since the beginning no not with
[16:45] B Spirit but I've been doing festivals
[16:48] for 25 years and and in the beginning
[16:50] there were music festivals with a little
[16:51] transformation a little yoga um a lot of
[16:55] drugs and and it's been interesting to
[16:57] watch it shift and now it's more like yo
[16:59] music festivals right so there there's
[17:01] this there's this there's this movement
[17:03] towards transformation and I actually
[17:05] think people even though it's a crazy
[17:07] environment I think people actually are
[17:08] learning things and growing and evolving
[17:10] and there's a culture that's growing out
[17:12] of these cultures that um that is that
[17:15] is moving and shaking in some really
[17:17] interesting ways innovating yeah you
[17:19] know the ecstatic Dance I mean that's
[17:21] becoming really really big all around
[17:23] the world and that doesn't involve drugs
[17:25] or alcohol and it's just like liberating
[17:27] H you do ecstatic
[17:29] right too so could you just tell us more
[17:32] about that I mean for me it's more like
[17:33] when we sing when we go into these
[17:36] states of allowing ourselves to be fully
[17:37] expressed it's it's it's better than any
[17:40] drug it's just pure joy and and again
[17:43] you know for many people there's like a
[17:44] there's like like a Wall of Resistance
[17:46] and there's the part of themsel that
[17:47] told themselves they can't do it and
[17:49] there's the part of themselves that's
[17:50] scared and vulnerable and I get all that
[17:52] but but just beyond that Wall of
[17:54] Resistance my job is to push people out
[17:56] of their comfort zone into that zone and
[17:58] get them in their body is expressing and
[18:00] when they do it's just pure Bliss pure
[18:02] joy and to me that is Magic that is
[18:05] ritual right and one of my favorite
[18:08] definitions of ritual that one of my
[18:09] teachers taught me is it's the art of
[18:11] changing Consciousness at will right so
[18:13] you don't need to have an external
[18:14] substance you need this is all we need
[18:17] to reach high states of connectivity to
[18:20] you know each other ourselves the the
[18:22] imminent Divine that's in all things and
[18:24] the great mystery like that's all we
[18:25] need is just singing dancing moving
[18:27] ritual allowing ourselves to be in that
[18:30] um in that state together in community
[18:33] that's a big part in community in
[18:35] community and connected to the Earth um
[18:37] Mother Earth in all elements not just up
[18:39] there that's right it's not just about
[18:41] the sky it's not just about the sky it's
[18:43] about us being here embodied fully um
[18:47] grounded healthy fully sexual fully
[18:50] confident fully loving fully expressed
[18:54] listening to our intuition connected
[18:55] like it's all it's the whole it's the
[18:57] whole system and when people when people
[19:00] talk to me about like I just want to
[19:01] ascend I'm I'm kind of like why this is
[19:04] this is bliss like if we are really
[19:06] embodied if we're really I had a yoga
[19:08] teacher who said you know why is
[19:09] everyone trying to get out of their
[19:10] bodies this is let's get into our bodies
[19:12] and let's descend yeah into the uh the
[19:15] the the the matter yes because it's it
[19:17] can be fully ecstatic amazing thank you
[19:20] Susan thank you so much for this
[19:22] delicious interview and time with you I
[19:24] wish you an amazing journey wherever
[19:27] life brings you thank you welcome thank
[19:29] you much love all delicious co-creators
[19:32] out there we send you many blessings and
[19:34] love and light for beautiful
[19:38] Bali bye
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